The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - S3 #14 "They're Baaaaack!"

Episode Date: December 19, 2017

Ben and Ashley are back from their week off and are joined by special guest Ali Fedotowsky.  They prepare for a new year of “Bachelorhood” including the kickoff month of “januARIE”. PLUS a listener’s boyfriend broke up with her in his best man toast?!?! Ben and Ashley are back...with a vengeance! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast with IHartRadio. We're back. Hey, it's Ashley. We're back for our undisclosed assignment location. Got so much work done together, Ben. I got to know you so well. But hey, we want to say Vanessa filled in for us last week, and she did an incredible job. Such a good job that we want her back.

for the 2018. I mean, geez, I almost forgot what year's coming up. That's wild. It's almost 2018. It was the fastest year of my life, and we are very excited to start season four of the Ben and Ashley Almost Santa's podcast on

January 2nd, the day after our season premieres. Yeah, Ashley, I got to tell you, congratulations on three. I mean, this is our last episode of our third season. This is a pretty big deal. We got through the off season, being able to fill up time. Like, we were able to talk about The Bachelor every single week without the show being on.

Yeah, just shows how exciting our lives are. Speaking of exciting lives, we have an exciting guest with us who has a lot going on in life right now. One of Bachelor Nation's favorite bachelorette. Ali Fittowski is with us in studio right now. Yeah. Thanks for having me. Hi, Ben. Hi, Ashley.

Hey, and that's not just something that we say to. everyone. You were the first season I ever watched. Really? Yes. And I loved your season. And you still like me? Yes. Yes. You hooked me forever. I'm a lifer now because of you. If it wasn't because of you, my life. Who would have known where I would be right now? Who would know? Who knows? I was going to say that. I was like, Allie, I don't know if I don't know if I should thank you for that or not. But if Ashley Iconetti started her bachelor journey via your show, you have a lot of responsibility and how the world is operating in

Bachelor nation right now. I actually feel that's a really good compliment because I feel like Ashley, you are one of my favorite reasons for watching the show. Oh, please. Thank you. That's so sweet. That's so sweet. So it all came full circle. Thanks, yeah. And what I think is cool is like, you were also my kind of career role model. I love the way that you first off, you kicked ass. You were like, you were working for Facebook

when you were on the show? Yeah, I was at Facebook. I honestly, I missed that job. I loved that job. It was so cool. And that's why I had to, like, do my little, you know, leaving The Bachelor to go back to my job. And you did go back for a bit. I did, I left him. But then I asked to come back and he said, no.

Really? Who is your bachelor again? I can't remember. Was it Jake Pavel? Yeah. Oh, my God. I know, I had no offense to Jake, but, you know, sometimes you look back and you're like, what, like, what did I see?

Like, how did I feel like I was interested in that person? Because he's just not my type. Yeah. Although, guys, the best bachelor moment of, of all time. Was it Jake Pelvakka moment? Was the Jake Pavelka breakup episode with Vienna? It was at the start of Brad's second season.

If you have not seen this, I highly recommend the YouTube. Like, I don't want to laugh at other people's sadness and misfortune, but it is one of the best things I have ever watched. I think I've watched it 20 times. That's, well, I knew going into like that season, I was like, okay, well, I liked Allie's season, but now after watching this fight between two people who I have no idea who they are, I am going to be invest in this show for life

because I am so entrenched with this drama and I have no idea what it's about. Chris Harrison's best work ever because they have this big argument over the dog poop and like it goes on and on. We've all been there, right? At some point Chris literally says

no one cares about the dog poop. I'm just like, oh my God. Stop interrupting me. But do you think they can look back on that now and laugh about it? I don't know. I hope so. It was so brutal that I don't know. Probably not.

I'm sure they watch it with like just their head and their hand. Probably, probably. For me though, oh, pure joy. It was good. And then she stormed off. It was like one of the craziest bachelor things and it's not even talked about that much anymore. It was so crazy.

She stormed out. Because it was almost 10 years ago. Isn't that? That's how ancient I am. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it was 8 years, 8 or 9. It was 2009, jake and Vienna that season. And then to that were the beginning of 2010. Well, yeah, so it aired the beginning, 2010.

Mine was 2010. So, yeah, I mean, it's 2018. It was eight years ago. Oh, my God. A long time ago. I'm old, guys. You are not old. How old are you?

30. I think I'm 33. You're a very young bachelorette, though. You were 26 when you're the bachelorette, right? I think I was even 25. No way. Yeah, I was young. Did you think that you were really ready in the moment and you looked back and you're like,

I probably wasn't ready? I probably was. I don't know. I mean, maybe not. I mean, honestly, I thought I was ready to get married when I was 20. That's what I thought, too. Yeah. And now at 29, I'm like, oh, you definitely weren't.

And you're on the verge now. Right, right. So, I mean, I don't know. Was I ready? Probably not. But I felt like I was at the time. Yeah. Yeah.

So, well, and here I am now. Now I am married. We got a kid. Another kid on the way. It's crazy how life changes. Yeah, tell us about that. Allie, catch us up a little bit. I mean, you have a kid who we all love and we follow on your social media.

And then you have another one on the way. Do win. and kind of walk us through. How has this came about? Are you planning on more? Are you excited about this? What's going on? Well, Ben, let me tell you about the birds and the bees.

How this happened. This happened. No, I'm kidding. Please do. I'm going to. Yeah, walk me through that. We have our adorable daughter, Molly, who is just the best thing ever. And yes, I'm one of those super lame parents that gives their child an Instagram handle.

But I'm like, well, you know, I want to snatch it up before somebody else takes it and get her followers. So if she doesn't amount to anything in life, she can have an Instagram following. You know what I mean? But, no, I'm kidding. She's going to be a doctor. But, yeah, and then we wanted to have two kids really close together.

We wanted them to be two years apart. They're going to be exactly 23 months apart, so almost exactly two years. And we feel super lucky, and I'm finally feeling better. First trimester always sucks for me. It's the worst. But the problem with this pregnancy

is that, like, I'm already huge. Like, I already have, like... You are not. I'm sitting right next to her. She's not. Perfect. She carries beautifully. But my belly is big. What is up with you Bachelor girls just carrying like magically? I'm going to be the Kim Kardashian of the Bachelor franchise when it comes to me getting pregnant. Like I'm just going to not be able. My face is going to be so

fricking puffy. I'm going to gain 70 pounds. I thought that about myself too, though. Really? And that didn't. I was, I honestly feel better pregnant, like how I look better about my body and how I look more than when I'm not pregnant. You, so you, because you feel that way about yourself you'll probably be super beautiful yeah i think carly felt the same way like carly gets puffy just in the heat and humidity in um bachelor in paradise and she was like i am going to blow up like a balloon and now she's carrying like a little maternity model yeah she's so cute she i feel like she's tiny the first pregnancy that's the thing your belly doesn't get that big at the beginning it's more towards the end the second pregnancy your body's just like it's just like all just like falls out like it's fun

I love and I hear about it a lot And we're actually talking about before the episode came on here You have a blog So any new moms or current moms or moms Trying to experience or share life with somebody They can go to your blog Allie Love Called A-L-I-L-U-V-S Oh, thanks Ben, yeah

I love my blog Yeah, please tell us about it Sure, I started at this blog Like I don't know maybe four years ago Honestly just to show like it was when I was on e-news and it was just to show my outfits every day because everybody was asking about my outfits and then it sort of turned into this like,

still outfits, I love doing affordable fashion stuff. But now it's turned into like a mommy blog and really just like a personal venting blog. Probably what you guys do on here, I do on my blog. You know, just like, it's all like word vomit. So yeah, it's turned into just like really a job for me and it's been great because it's allowed me to spend most of my time working from home

and letting really my full, full-time job be being a mom, which has been so awesome. So it's been great. That is basically my perfect lifestyle. Yeah. In the future. Yeah. It's amazing because I mean working a little bit and then being a mom.

When you get pregnant, you can bring your baby here into the studio and, you know, give your baby a little microphone and, you know, see what they have to say. When I did my first interview with Jaden Tanner post Emmy, she was two weeks old and she was cooing into the mic and it was so adorable. That's so sweet. Maybe she'll be your, you know, future third co-hosts coming in here. Who knows? But, yeah, no. You can take my thoughts. No, no, we'd miss you too much.

But, yeah, so it's been great because, you know, I basically about one or two days a week, I work at Home and Family, which is on the Hallmark Channel, which is a show that I've been on for, I think I've been going in there for about a year now, officially for only since September. But it's the best show to be a part of. I'm so lucky that all my bachelor crazy stuff has led me, like, sort of, on this little TV career path, which is been amazing. Yeah, it's great, right? And people always say, oh, you're in the entertainment business now.

So you must have gone on the show just to be famous or, you know, just to be almost famous podcast. But it's like, no, it's like these opportunities arise after. And the reason, I'm sure, like with you, Ben and same with you, Ashley, that people sort of were drawn to you on the show is because you, you know, I don't know a better way to say this, but like to talk or like, you know, like to share. So I've turned that, it's turned into opportunities and I've, taken a hold of them and yeah, I get to do this awesome show, home and family and one day

a week and then do my blog and then be a stay-at-home mom the rest of the time. So I feel like life is good right now. I cannot complain. That is perfect. And I've always, yeah. I've always said the same thing. I'm like, well, yes, did I got my master's in broadcast journalism. Of course, I was excited for the doors it was going to open. But if Crystal's was my husband, I would have probably dropped those dreams and moved to Iowa. It would just be a mom and a wife. Like, that's just that's my style. Or you would do this podcast from Iowa. True that. Yeah. That would have worked out too. Wait, Ali, what do you think of Ari? I love that Ari is The Bachelor. I mean, you know, Ari, I feel like you do. I don't. I've never met. Oh, you haven't. You know what? I can't even say,

this is a crazy thing about being part of the Bachelor family is that I don't know if this ever happens to you, Ashley, or you Ben, but sometimes I'll meet somebody and I'll be like, have we met? Because I feel like I know them. You know, probably how some of the viewers feel when they meet you. You know, they feel like they know you. I feel like that about contestants. And then like, you know, Sarah, Heron the other day, I saw her. I'm like, oh, my gosh, nice to be you. She's like, oh, no, we met at Jade and Tanner's wedding.

I'm like, oh, my gosh. I follow her on social media. So, like, I felt like I hadn't met her, but I had. Yeah, Jade and Tanner's wedding didn't count. There were so many people that I briefly, like, waived at. And I didn't get to really know. But so I don't think I have my R.E., but, you know, we follow each other in social media. So, obviously, we're super, like, best friends.

So, yeah. I'm just like to Tim because I feel like, again, bringing back to how old I feel, but I feel like it's like a throwback to my era of the show. So I'm excited to... Where does he fall in the timeline? Like, were you a bachelor at first or was Emily? No, no, she was after me. Okay.

So it was me, Ashley, and then Emily. Oh, okay, wow. So he's like a young end. So everybody thinks he's old school. Well, yeah, no, he was a few years after me. I feel like there's like a specific generations. And I feel like it may have started again with your season or Jake's season, and then I think

the new generation started probably with Crystal season. Yeah, yeah, probably for sure. Some of us have been here since the very first one. Yeah, were you a fan of the show beforehand? I watched one season of the show before I was on it, and that was Jason Mezzanick's season, and I watched it because I was in a crappy

relationship, and the guy treated me like, can I say shit? Yeah. Yeah, you can say whatever you want. I don't know, I guess I just did. But, and I wanted to get out of it, and I needed a distraction. I was watching Jason Men's season and thinking, oh, I would just love it if a guy treated me like this,

which is weird because he was dating 25 women at once. And also with a juicy ending. A very juicy. That's one of the best juiciest ever. I know. See, there was a lot of Jews back then. We need to get some scandal going on in these four future scenes. What's going on?

I also like that he did stay with her, though. So even despite the weird, like, switcheroo, he's still with her. For anyone listening, having no idea what we're talking. about it was a long time ago but but i mean it's crazy they've been married for like eight years now i've a kid yeah picked melissa ryecroft in the finale he like proposed then at the after the final rose he changed his mind which i just think is like what well he and i can't think of her name molly molly molly meznik how can you forget that it's just rolls off the time she's in she works

for iHeart radio also she has a radio show she does yeah she does question he like Did he break up with Rycroft before? No? He broke up with her on live TV. I think she was blind-sighted. I think she was, but this, you guys know how the show works, though, you know how the producers can, you know, I hate to use the word, manipulate, but like,

they can say, sway. Sway, you know, like, hey, you can't say anything before because of this, or, yeah, encourage, exactly. So, you know, I'm sure he was made to feel like that was his only option. And I'm sure she knew things weren't great. You know what I mean? People know.

Oh, absolutely. You know, like the little rendezvous. I was going to say, how was those happy couple weekends? Oh, they were probably the worst. Obviously, yeah. So, you know. I just remembered you, I forgot. I fully forgot an entire relationship you had.

Because in, so. You're talking about. Well, I'm talking to bring it back to her birthday now. Yeah, because in my mind, Ali, I know Ali's husband. And she's so married to him. It's like, you've been married to him forever. Yeah. I literally just had this realization.

I'm like, oh my God, you dated the guy that you got engaged to. Yeah. Whoa. Who? You're talking about Roberto? Yeah. That seems like a lifetime ago.

It seems like another life. Yeah, it's funny. I was just saying the other day to somebody like, I would actually, at this point, it's so funny because they were actually considering Roberto to be the bachelor after we split up, and I was so upset about it. Like, I was just like, it was too fresh.

Like, I was just like, that's not okay. Like, you can't do this to me. Like, I don't want to see that. Because look, you know, obviously people from the show, are, you know, recycled and, you know, the cast off of the previous season becomes The Bachelor, but it's the cast off. It's not someone who was actually

at a real long-term relationship after the show. So anyway, at this point, though, you know, I'm married, I'm happy, it's been so long. I mean, I've texted with Roberto the other day. Like, we're totally gorgeous. Wow. That's cool. Yeah, he just said me.

Is he single? I think so. I think he is because I think that they've been looking at him for other things. For things, yeah. I would be so, like, on board for him to be the Bachelor. Like, I would be. rooting along with him with everybody else watching like I I honestly think it'd be cool if it happened so he was so my type when I was watching your season I was like I would be just as

physically attracted to this man and not be blind to everyone else just like Allie's being right now. I feel like you'd make a good couple honestly oh yeah I do I do he's a good guy he is a good guy we just were totally you know we just didn't sometimes it doesn't match up together you know what I mean. But yeah, I would be into seeing him, seeing him do it in the future. I bet I'm sure everybody asks you this all the time. But would you do it again? That is such a good question, Ellie. Would I do it again? I have such a hard time now saying no and I would never do anything again because I find myself saying that and then doing the exact same thing I said I would never do again. But I honestly, I can't even imagine. Like it gives me anxiety to even think

about the idea of stepping back into that role and, like, going about it. I just think dating on television is really hard. Yeah. And then dating afterwards is even harder. And so I don't know if I'd want to put myself or anybody else through that again. I don't, it would be really hard for me to say yes, too. Do you know what I want to put you in, though, Ben? What's that?

A blue apron. Oh, wow. Nice job, Ashley. You know that's Amy in my fantasy with Ben cooking in his kitchen and the blue apron and no shirt long. Yeah, no shirt on. Well, guys, the holidays are here. Families in town. It is time to make some food.

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You've got to go to blue apron.com slash almost famous. So check out this week's menu and get your $30 off with free shipping at blue apron.com slash almost famous blue apron, a better way to cook. Wow, that was incredible, Ashley. You are incredible. And I would love to cook you guys some dinner sometimes. But I think health code requires me to wear a shirt. Hey, Ali, I know life, we just kind of.

touched on it, but I know life post-bachelorette got really crazy and really had a lot of opportunities for you really quickly. Can you help all of us kind of understand? Because I think you were one of the first to really step into the world of entertainment or hosting really after the Bachelorette. And you did a great job that you've been really successful. And as you said, you're now doing a show on the Hallmark channel. How has that experience been for you? And it's led you up to this point today. Do you feel like you've grown a lot since the Bachelorette? Oh my gosh. I feel like I'm a completely different person. I still sometimes will get tweets from people saying, remember when you were mean to Vienna on The Bachelor? And I was just like, I was 24 years old. Like that was a decade ago. I'm 33 with a daughter. And like, I'm a different person. So yeah, I've completely changed since then. And I obviously don't agree with all of my behavior back then on the show. We all been there. We've all made mistakes on the show, I'm sure. But yeah, I mean, for me, I went on the show, whole. wholeheartedly wanting to find love.

Like, not the Bachelor. I wanted The Bachelor for a good time and free drinks, okay? Anyone who tells you they go on as a contestant to, like, really find love, I feel like it's kind of a little BS. Oh, yeah. I actually just watched Ari's first episode, and, like, all these girls mean, like, I am so excited to be here to find love. I'm like, you really think that that one man that you're paired up with is going to be your love.

I mean, come on, guys. Love you, but. You go on open to finding love for sure, right? I was a hopeless romantic. Of course. If you're not looking for a husband, then get out. Yeah. Like I was like,

like I said earlier in a really bad relationship. So I just wanted a distraction, right? So yeah. But then once I realized, okay, this is possible to find love. Once I became The Bachelorette, that's when I went on like really to find love. But this is a thing. I had to leave my job at Facebook to be the Bachelorette. I had to leave it.

I left all my stock. I didn't have a ton of stock. I wasn't like super early. Like some people, but enough. I had to leave my stock options because I wasn't invested. Is this to go on Jake's season? No. On Jake's season, yeah, this would be the bachelor.

Yeah, this would be what's to be the bachelor. Okay. So look, I knew at that point that I had to figure out how to survive after that. I needed to figure out how to make money after that. So did I go on thinking, oh, well, I'm just going to find love and then I'm going to go to Nebraska and never step foot in the entertainment industry again? No, I didn't think that way. You know, I did think I'm going to take advantage of every opportunity.

In fact, the best advice I ever got. And I think somebody else told me they got this advice from Jimmy Kimmel once. You know, we were lucky enough to go on his show after the seasons. And he said to me, make all the money you can right now. I love that advice. Yeah, because he said, look. He gave that advice to me too. And Chris sold.

He said, do as much as you can, make as much money as you can with the burden that is fame. And I think that is, I mean, it is such a brilliant piece of advice because, Because, you know, we're all hesitant to do anything with it post-Bachelorette, but what he's saying is, hey, you're already going to, your name's already out there. Your face is going to be everywhere. Like, do something with that because you're not going to get away with it. Right, right. No, that's so funny. He must, like, give us all that advice, which is great advice.

When I was on Jimmy, he didn't say this. Just kidding. It was via FaceTime. So it was a little different, almost personal. But for me, he said this, you know, I think it was off camera. That's probably why it was on camera. Actually, make as much money as possible on live TV. But no, for, you know, he said to me, too, is it's fleeting.

And that's one thing with the show. You are a hot commodity right after the show is over. It's funny. I feel like every bachelor contestant kind of goes through this. Honestly, maybe except for you, Ben, because you're just the nicest person on the face of the planet. But I feel like every bachelor or bachelorette, when the show is over, they kind of feel like they're super important, right?

everybody wants to talk to them everybody wants their interview you know so it's kind of and i've heard this from other people in the industry that like some of the bachelor match they get a little bit too much on their high horse after the show but then a year passes let's say they break up from their relationship then really they're not as people don't care as much anymore and then the theme starts going away and they start becoming nice and being their real their real selves again i feel like that that's happened with so many people um me too honestly like i feel like after the show show I all of a sudden thought I was very important and like kind of put because you got to put up these walls of like everyone's trying to get a piece of you that you feel like you kind of have to

like shut everybody out and then it comes across wrong and you know it's a cycle but um but anyway I feel like the fame goes away so you got to like take a hold of those opportunities right at the beginning and that's what I did you know I feel like I really kind of just like grasp on to every opportunity I could get and I knew one thing that I was good at was public speaking I think that you and I you really were my role model well that is like seriously the nicest thing thank you for saying that and then you for being you stop it

but yeah so and then here I am I mean I'm lucky that I've been able to stay in the industry someone and make a living out of it and I feel super grateful for that but I think the problem is the people that like go in thinking that's going to be their path and never is I didn't like go in thinking that I'd be here

eight years later you know working on a TV show in you know on Universal Plaza I thought you know I'd be way done with it by now. So I think if you go in, not really expecting it, it kind of happens for you. And it's a lot of hard too. Yeah, you have to work hard. Yeah. So this industry isn't all like glam that you see on TV. It's also, you know, you still work for it, even though we obviously got the big bump of being on the show and becoming recognizable. Yeah, no. I mean,

that's what I was saying. Allie, you give some good advice. And I think one of the things about you and even talking to you at the wedding a few years ago that I appreciate is you are honest with your successes and failures and have you kind of handled yourself. post-bachelorette and kind of this platform that Ashley and I always say it's just been given to us. And what would be your advice to anybody out there that is either going to go on the bachelor's or the bachelor's or just trying to pursue a career that they feel is almost untouchable right now? What would be your advice to them? And how do you handle yourself as a person with character during that process? Well, I think you can't. The big problem is I think you can't

go on the show kind of expecting there to be a career afterwards. You know, if it's in the back, Like, I guess for me, was it in the back of my mind that I needed to seize opportunities afterwards because I just gave up one of the best jobs of my life and all, you know, yes, it was, but I think you need to make your main focus, like, not about that. Because I think when you start making it about that, that's a problem. I think after the show, the biggest thing, to get on the show, I don't know if you guys agree with this. I think to get on the show, you have to be 100% open and willing to talk about anything in your feelings. Absolutely. Right? Like people always like, I'm doing casting for a Bachelor tomorrow.

What is your advice for me? I'm like, be willing to talk about everything going on in your life, be super vulnerable, super open. And just like if they ask you like the most personal question ever, you answer it. Yeah. Like don't say like a comfortable answer. Yeah. That's such good advice.

I've never thought of, I've never thought of that, even though I've done this so many time is because people ask all the time, what would be your advice. That is great advice because you better be ready to have your life completely displayed on television maybe for years to come right right and you know what if you're a cryer let yourself cry during the casting like did you cry during casting actually but i think i probably did like show emotion like when i was talking about like having never had a boyfriend yeah i was probably like i know this is awkward this is so awkward to like vocalize to a stranger but you feel you sound a little bit emotional and i of course had to talk about i talked about the virginity thing in my casting

And I knew that it would help me get on the show, which is why I was open about talking about it. But it was also true. It wasn't something that I came up with to get on the show. People, of course, during my first season, they're like, how this girl is just, she came up with something to get attention. And I'm like, no.

And I think after a season or two, they were like, oh, no, she's 100% legit. This girl's awkward as, beep. But you were open about all that during casting. Would you have to be? That's how you get, in the show after you get on the show this is my thing you you are if you make it to the end towards the end I guess and become sort of a face of the show that's how you're going to get

the opportunities it just is it's such a bummer because like people who kind of get eliminated the first couple episodes will be like what should I do how do I get and I'm just like and you're like you're sorry but I'm like I'm sorry but people don't know your face enough like you know you're going to have to go about it the hard way well you know really the traditional way which is like working your way up from the bottom as like a PA assistant and then going up you know all respect to PA or they are that's what the assistant is production assistant but um but anyway uh I mostly say if you do have a little bit from it like take advantage of at the beginning but like be and I apologize if Ashley or Ben you've done any of this but be careful not

to jump on the bachelor bandwagons I think that's one of the things that I've like really tried not to do in terms in terms of making um it not just about like posting an Instagram to make money right like turning into something else, making it more authentic. I don't know if that really makes sense. I don't want to, like, insult anybody or putting anybody down. But for instance, I'll say this. After the show, I was given the opportunity to rep a brand that I was not comfortable with.

It was a brand that I thought sent a wrong message to young girls about body image. And I- It's a good diet pill or something? Yeah. It wasn't a healthy, like there are some healthy ones out there, not even a healthy diet pill, but like all natural ones that I actually think maybe I did do it. a campaign but it was like one of those ones that's like like the fetermine in it or something i don't know what that ingredient is that's not good for you so i was offered i think i can't remember exactly

but like honestly it was like half a million dollars like it was a great i've never been offered anything like that that amount not even close i was just beside myself this was for like a long-term campaign this was right after the bachelor and it was so hard for me to turn that down because that would have changed my life. That would have been a house. I mean, it would have changed my life. And I chose, I remember having long talks with like my friend who was like a kind of manager to me at the time and my lawyer. And we just decided like collectively as like a team that like that's not the message I want to send to young girls out there. And that's not the kind of brand that I want to put out there for myself. So I could have taken it, but I didn't. And you know, sometimes even

I'm like, should I just have taken it? Would it really have affected it? But at the time, I didn't want to because that was my thing. But damn, well, now we really have to give you a round of applause. Yeah. But we do the same thing here. I mean, we're very, very picky about people that we let sponsor this show and we have to believe in them and they have to be a fit for Ben and Ashley. And it's like, I respect that. And I believe in that for them too. I think that is the key to longevity. And, you know, congratulations to you guys and your fourth season coming up, the end of season three. Yay. But I think that's a key. And it's great that you guys are doing that because I think like keeping true to yourselves and your brand

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I use L'Oreal because of Blake Lively, so my thing is like, hey, because her hair is. Well, look, if you would take a, you know, a diet pill to in your regular life and you want to endorse it, then do it, you know? So I'm not saying that product is bad. That's just not something I do.

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you should use products that are paraben-free. So I was psych to hear you say that. Yeah. Before you leave us, Allie, I love to, like, tie in the way people whose bachelor or bachelor's experiences didn't actually work in their traditional way, but they did end up meeting their husband or wife somehow through the opportunities that they got through the show. We had Andrew Firestone on, like, a month ago.

And he was telling us about how he was here to. record an after show or something and he ended up meeting his wife while like at a bar in L.A. And he wouldn't have been there if it weren't for the show. And I feel like you kind of met your husband in a similar way. You were the host of First Look, which is so interesting because Ben and I actually have a Golden Globes episode of Versla coming out. Oh, that's awesome. And like a week. Yeah. I know. Look at this. So full circle. I know. But anyway, tell us about how you met your husband through that. Yeah. So I, um, after actually right after Roberto and I, entered our engagement and broke up. I randomly got a

call from somebody saying the show first, look, wants you to host it because they thought I was perfect because they're like, oh, she just ended her engagement so we can send her all over the country and she'll be fine with it because she has no attachment. That must be why Ben and I'm that's supposed to be when they came to us too, right?

You guys are doing the specials. The specials are like reserved for like very important people, so you guys should feel I don't even think I did any of the specials. Ben's done some non-specials as well. But this is a little different in the sense that it was nonstop. I mean, that show I loved it, but man, it was hard.

I traveled. I was on a plane every like three days for a year and a half. Like that wears on you. So you can't have any attachments. So anyway, they had me do this show. So I went and did first look. And my now husband, he was, his best friend was one of the producers for the show in Chicago. and I was in Chicago doing a round of episodes.

And his best friend, who is my producer, asked Kevin to come on and co-host one of the episodes with me. So he came on and co-host one of the episodes. He was in a very serious relationship at the time. So we didn't, we didn't, you know, instantly fall in love or anything. But man, the men and I met him, I was like, oh, dang it. Like I'm, this guy would be perfect for me. And of course, he's taken.

So, I mean, he was married at the time. So he was very taken. So I just kind of like forgot about it. And, you know, six months later, my producer, when I was back in Chicago, he was like, yeah, you know, I said, oh, how is Kevin doing and everything? He said, oh, you know, he's okay. He's kind of going through a rough time. He's going through a divorce. And I was like, oh, my gosh, I'm so sorry.

And then deep down inside, I was like, yes. I mean, I feel so bad, like, even to say that out loud. But, like, I just knew this guy was, like, meant for me. I don't know. Just like the second I met him, I knew he would have been perfect for me. The universe knew, too, and you didn't cause the problem. So, hallelujah, you know, whatever. Exactly.

No, it all worked out the way it should, obviously. and yeah so if it wasn't I always say like people will say would you let your daughter Molly be the Bachelorette one day or go on the bachelor. And I'm like, yes, if it wasn't for the Bachelor or Bachelorette, she would not exist because I never would have had that TV show. I never would have. Or maybe I would have, just a different way. Who knows? Yeah. But so how could I say to her, no, you can't go on that show? And one, you can't go on to your 18 anyway. And at that point, but yeah. Oh, is it 21? Oh, well, I mean, and at that point, oh, I guess that's a good thing. Imagine if they had a bunch of 18-year-olds. No, they have to not allow that because of drinking

reasons. Oh, you're right. You're right. Unless I took the show maybe to like Copenhagen or something for the season. I wonder if they would be allowed, but we don't need anybody younger. Actually, I think I know that in other countries they can be below 21 for that reason. On the shows, like, that's funny. But you know what? People are already saying

there's too many young girls on R.A. season this season, I feel like a lot of times, like really, anyone under 21, for sure, has some growing to do before they need to get married. So let's keep it at 21 at least. We should raise it to 25, really. I think so, too. I totally think so.

Guys, the more age we raise it to, the less drama we get. And we just talked earlier. We need more drama. We need more juiciness. Do we need more drama? 16. Let's go with 16. I don't know, Ben.

I feel like there's more people. They're craving romance than drama these days. Hey, actually, I'm all about that. But the first couple weeks are still fun to watch the train wreck. You're right. I'm just saying I like that. I'm really interested in one thing here. If we, if you don't mind, I would like to take it back.

a few years because, you know, The Bachelor has had just a lot of press recently. There's been a lot of negatives to it. But The Bachelor is still something that I know you and I participated and found somebody that really cared about. If you don't mind, I mean, did you really find love on The Bachelorette or was that relationship real to you or was it just more of being caught up in the moment by being on the show? the relationship to me when we got engaged was absolutely real in my mind i mean there are parts of

me looking back i think like was i really ready was i just caught up in the moment i do think i was caught up in the moment i do think i was caught up in the idea of wanting to get engaged and wanting it to work out knowing how much pressure would be on me to have something work out um and i do think i do think it was real in the sense of any relationship that's not meant to be how it starts out. You know, it started out great. Like, oh my gosh, I thought he was the hottest thing in the world when we were together. Like, I just couldn't, every time I saw him, I think on camera, even, I just made out with him because I just like, couldn't resist myself. So, but like, resist myself. I couldn't resist him. So I, you know, I do think it was real, but I think I knew pretty early on in

my case that it wasn't going to work. Just because I realized how fundamentally different we were right from the get-go in terms of our beliefs on just like how things work in a household. You know, like small things that we were just so fundamentally different on that I knew right away, but like any relationship I've ever been in, I don't know about you guys, but regardless of the show, before the show, I've always stayed in too long. Like it should have ended a year before, months before, and you stay in it, you stay in it, you fight for it. I'm sure people listening can totally relate to this.

You know you should break up with this guy, but you just, you love him so much. So you try and you try and you try to make it work. So I think that's kind of what I went through. I knew very early on, probably within, honestly, the first few weeks, to be honest, that like this wasn't, something was off. But I believed deep down in my heart that like we loved each other and we could make it work.

So how did it feel to accept a proposal from somebody who you had that gut feeling? It wasn't going to work at was. Sorry, I didn't have that at the proposal. Oh, you didn't, okay. Once we were in, like, the happy couple getaways. Got it. Those were actually fine. I think we had one little argument during that time that I was kind of like,

oh, this is not good. But I think it was after we came out publicly, I should say, within a few weeks after that, I was kind of like, okay, something. And we were together a year and a half after the show or after we got engaged. That's long now. Yeah. I mean, that is, I mean, a decent amount of time. At the time, it was the time when we broke up, we had been the longest.

engaged couple that didn't get married from the show. I mean, now those people have been together a lot longer, but at the time, it was very long. And I just, but I think that's a thing. It wasn't just, yes, there was the pressure of the public to stay together. Yes, there was the pressure you know, of even the show wanting us to stay

together. But the biggest pressure was the pressure I put on myself to want to stay together because I just, I knew this guy was great. He was good looking. He was responsible. He was very kind to people. A good person. and why wasn't I, why wasn't this working?

Like, I was, like, upset with myself. So, you know, I think I put the most pressure on myself, for sure. But, you know, I think we all do that. I think we all do that in relationships. We stay in a relationship too long and you knew you should get out. All your friends are telling you, this guy or this girl's bad for you. Get out of this relationship. And you're like, oh, but I don't know, I love him.

You know, we're meant to be. And that's kind of what I was going through in my head. And then one day I just said, this is not right. And it was very, it ended very abruptly. But, well, Allie. thank you for telling us all about your bachelor journey we need to talk about what you're doing currently with your new it's it's a new show right it's starting to it just started to air it's been on no home and family actually it's crazy home and family i feel like has been on for

like 20 years or something it's like a super long running show it used to be on another network but it's on hallmark channel now okay and it's in its sixth season on hallmark channel um it's such a great show i mean i know we talked about how like this business you're the new host of it though no no no no no no no i'm not mark um and debby are the co-hosts of the show. To do segments on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I fill in sometimes, yeah. I fill in for them sometimes when they're out doing stuff.

They're the craziest, they have the craziest schedule and they work harder than anybody in the business. But the great thing about this show, so we call, what I'm called it is a family member on the show. And the thing is it might sound cheesy. Like, honestly, when I first got on the show, I'm like, I'm a family member.

Like, well, I'm like a correspondent or I'm a thing. I get it now because we are a family on that show. It is truly the best show to be a part of. I'm not just saying that because I know they're going to listen to this. I'm truly not just, it is the truth. Like, people care about each other there. If someone has a hardship, whether it's someone on the camera crew or a producer, anybody has a hardship in their life. We pool together money to help them out. Like, it is one of the best working environments that I've ever been in and I feel so fortunate and lucky to be part of the show. Like,

if nobody, the show's doing great, thankfully. But if nobody watched the show, I still would want to be on it every day just because it's such a great environment. be a part of. And they give us food every day, which is really nice. That's always a perk. It always makes me feel like I'm going to gain a solid 10 pounds just from working there every day. Yep.

Yep. I actually, on the way here, I think I filled up a to go container and was like eating fried cauliflower and like all this stuff. But yeah, I eat a lot there. Donuts in the morning. What can you do? What exactly is the show about, though? Just real quick for anybody listening, if they want to tune in, what should

they expect? Yeah. So actually, kind of like you were saying, actually, how like people really want like, some good feelings right now, like you said they want the romance. I think right now with like the state of our world and everything going on. And every time you turn on the news, it's like another sad story that people just kind of want to like to feel good. Right.

And so the show is a lifestyle show where we do a lot of cooking segments. Like you'll learn how to bake like a champ after watching our show. We do a lot of DIY segments. I do fashion. I do a lot of kiddo stuff. So like fun activities to do with your kids. What a perfect mix of stuff for you. Yeah.

It's so much fun. It's a great show. And so we do that. And I feel like people just kind of go to Hallmark right now, not just for the, like, awesome, binge-worthy Hallmark movies. Come on, everybody. You and Matt, you're watching those Hallmark Christmas movies right now. Oh, I am.

But you also go to Homemark for, like, the warm and fuzzies. Totally. So that's what our show is all about. It's just about feeling good. And this is a thing. The warm and fuzzies that you see on the show are legit what's happening on the show, even behind the scenes, which is why it works. Perfect.

Yeah, you should come on, you guys sometime. Oh, we would love to do something with you there. Yeah, let's do something. We'll have to plan something and do it. Yeah, we had Eric Bigger on the show recently. He was on Rachel's season. Yeah. Yeah, so we will have to, it's just up the road.

It's a rocks throw away from here, so you guys will have to come up. Amazing. Well, you are just a great guest. You're everything that I've ever thought you'd be, smart and articulate and warm and beautiful. So thank you so much for being here. Ashley and I are officially,

I'm going to make her hang out with me every day just so I can feel as good as I feel right now. My original, my original bachelorette. No, I'm not, I'm not kidding. kidding. Allie, I literally tell everybody, I like to hang out with Ashley, not because she's just awesome, but because she makes me feel awesome all the time. And that's why she's a good co-host here. So, hey, before you leave, Allie, I want to say it one more time. If you want some more warm and fuzzies in your life, make sure to check out Allie and the rest of the great team on the home and family television show on the Hallmark Channel. And then also, for your everyday reading, visit allie loves.com. That's A-L-I-L-U-V. Z.com. Hey, Allie, I really, I want to personally thank you for coming on the Almost Famous Podcast. I have to go. And so I'm going to hand this over to Allie and Ashley to take it from here. Hey, I appreciate you both. And we will talk very soon on episode one of season

four January 2nd. I'll talk you later, guys. Thank you. Bye, Ben. Merry Christmas. Yeah, Merry Christmas with you all. All right, Allie, we have some insane callers. I'm looking at their stories right now there was a girl her name is emily i'm hoping we can get her on the phone her boyfriend broke up with her this month by dumping her in a best man speech like as she sat in the audience of a wedding reception he said in his speech like he broke up with her so emily will be on to tell this dumping story that's insane just a few minutes but first we have to talk about one of our very favorite sponsors have you ever tried a pair of me Me undies? No. Oh, wait, me undies? Me undies. Oh, yes. No, I actually bought those as a subscription

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She was probably calling for Ben because of what happened to her. At least she thought, oh, I'm going to talk to a cute, nice single guy. Exactly. She stuck with us. And we have this segment that we like to call Dr. Ben, where he gives the best relationship advice. And, Emily, I don't know if I can give you advice on this topic, but I'm here to listen. For emotional support. Emotional support, yes.

So please tell us the story. So me and my boyfriend have been dating about nine months, and he is, he's, he's, he's, He is a brother, and he was the best man in his brother's wedding, so I was his date. I was not he's the best man's date. I don't know. I mean, me and him have only been dating nine months, so I mean, we know, I know his family very well, but I mean, I'm, you know, the best man's date. So I'm, like, in doing all, like, the wedding party stuff, the whole entire weekend, which

is, like, totally fine with me, you know, I get along with strangers. I because I didn't know everyone in the wedding party, but obviously I knew his brother. But anyway, so he gets up to do the best. best man speech at the wedding's on a Saturday night and there's about 300 people at the wedding so it's you know a pretty big wedding and he's standing in front of everyone he says you know whenever I look at Colin Collins's his brother whenever I look at Colin and Sarah you know the way I see Colin look at Sarah I just know that they're meant to be forever and I think you can just tell that he feels like she's his life partner and and then he goes and I don't know if everyone here

I met my girlfriend, Emily, he points me out, and I'm obviously like, oh, my God, where is this going? You probably thought he was going to propose. Well, well, I'll get to that part later. So I'm like, oh, my gosh, you know, where is this going? And, I mean, I proposed, proposing, like, I knew that wasn't going to happen. I mean, I kind of figured that would happen probably after, you know, a few more years just because both of us are in our mid-20s right now. Anyways, so I'm, you know, I'm kind of scared. I'm like, I don't know all these people here, but I figured it wasn't going to be a big deal.

He says, and whenever I look at Emily, you know, I just kind of think, nah, and I know. Oh, goodness. No, and here's the thing. Like, it's not like, right. So the thing is half of the room, like, yes, they're just, like, shocked and horrified this happened. And then the other half, you know, laugh because it was a joke. Right.

I would think that's a joke, but it wasn't a joke. It would have been the least funny joke ever. Exactly. It was kind of like I know he was so nervous for a speech and at the beginning of the speech because all week I didn't like, oh, please practice for me, practice for me. And he was like, no, I'm just going to leave it, it's going to be fine because he's pretty charismatic and he's good at speaking in front of people. And I was like, okay, that's going to be fine. And so then I noticed him getting nervous in the speech and I kind of am like, oh, you know, getting nervous for him kind of.

And then he kind of just throws me under the bus with this stupid joke. And I'm anyways. And so I'm very thankful that at least some people were laughing because I don't want everyone. want at least 300 people in this room that, like, I only know, like, probably, like, 50 of them. I don't want them to think that I'm, you know, like, hurt or embarrassed, but I, I mean, I don't know. I should be able to feel hurt and embarrassed, but I just kind of pretend, like, it's no big deal for the rest of the wedding, and people are, you know, coming up to me, and they're, like, kind of just pitying me, and it's so frustrating because, and I don't want to sound conceited,

but, you know, our relationship, you know, I mean, it's obviously, I don't really, you know, if someone's the reacher and someone's like the, what is the... You're the hot one in the relationship? He's very attractive. He's very attractive. You're the full package in the relationship. Well, I don't want to say that, but I'm sure his friends view that that way, but I think my friends kind of view him as, like, the full package.

Did you ever ask him in each other well? Why? Like, why did he feel the need to do that? Well, I'm sure you're saying, you must have forced to break up now once you address this in an actual conversation with him. Right. So, like, I get back, so basically right when we get back to the hotel room, I just, like, start crying.

I'm, like, so mad at him, and he's, like, kind of like, oh, my gosh, I didn't realize that that would be that because, you know, and he just, like, had so little lack of empathy, and, I mean, he was apologetic and sorry that he just, you know, I'm just like, what's wrong with you, basically? Like, why would you ever think that's okay? And, like, I know you don't feel that way, but you just humiliated me in front of 300 people. And also, I've only known your brother for nine months. Like, in what world is it okay to include someone in their, that's a speech given his wife?

like I was the only name you know it's not like he like mentioned his parents or anything it's like he's only known me for nine months what did he say basically he was just like I'm sorry I was so nervous um you know he said something like you know he was wasted man ever again I mean yeah yeah I mean he definitely took a bunch of tequila shop right before he went up there but I don't even want to blame it on the alcohol because I feel like he's always able to control himself when he drank alcohol so it's like it doesn't really matter how much he had to drink so did you guys break up on the spot when you had this conversation in the hotel room? No, I waited until, like, after all the wedding festivities were taken over.

I just didn't want to take any attention away from the people getting married. So selfless. It would be more embarrassing. You're nice. I would have been, like, I would have made the biggest scene probably. I would have, yeah. And, well, it sounds bad. Like, I mean, right when that happened, I thought, you know, there's actually no way that I'm going to come out of this looking, like, bad, you know.

So, I mean, I remember. Well, the worst part was, but I had an ex-boyfriend in college that I dated for about three years or four years. And one of his friends, they were returned new brothers, but his friend actually happened to be at the wedding. And his friend came up to me after this speech and was like, oh, my gosh, Emily. Like, I'm so sorry. Like, obviously your boyfriend has no idea, like, what he's doing, you know? And I'm like, this is so awkward, you know, because I'm like, okay, like. Have you talked to him since?

Yeah. No, I mean, I've talked, I mean, we, it was an out-of-town wedding, so we drove back together. Oh, wow. But is it done, done, or is this, like, the type of thing where you're still kind of talking on the side, or are you done with this guy? Well, when I first contacted you guys on the podcast, in my mind, I was 100% done. You're not done. No, you're back together. I can tell you're not done.

Yeah, and so right now, it's like, kind of, we're in this, like, in-between stage where it's, like, you know. Emily, what I was going to do. tell you is like the bright side of basically the most embarrassing moment I've ever heard is that like at least you know that the guy that you're dating is so much of a dick that like you should have no problem just dropping his ass. I don't know. I'm going to give this guy one one hall pass. This guy gets one wedding jitters. I'm wasted. I screwed up hall pass. Mark doesn't think so. Mark, we need a guy's opinion here. I don't think so unless he goes overboard to really make it up to you and apologize. It doesn't sound like he's doing that. I mean, if they get married one day, it would make a pretty great

story at their wedding. No, and I got another thing I said. I told him, we talked about, and I go, but I go, the thing is, Jack, I'm going to have to monitor. So I had a Christmas party the next weekend after the wedding, and I told him, I was like, listen, John, you're uninvited to my work Christmas party because I don't know what you're going to say in front of people and you're going to embarrass me. And I think that that kind of like crushed him a little bit, a lot. You and he was like, okay, like, I can't act like that. So he's been very apologetic, and he's, I mean, he's always been so amazing and so great. I'm giving him one pass.

This is his one get out of jail free. But did you feel, did you feel me about him before the comment? The thing is, like that comment, I know, like, I know for a fact he doesn't feel that way. And I think it kind of, for me, it's more repricing. I'm just like, how could you humiliate me? Like, you know? My only thing is sometimes people try to be funny. And if they're not comedians, they're not funny.

But in their mind, oh, I'm going to get a big laugh out of this. And I look at my girlfriend like. Right. If it was totally sarcastic and then he just didn't say it in a very sarcastic, yeah, he couldn't deliver it. But still, that's not heaven hard. You've got to have the emotional intelligence to throw out a bachelor word for a second. But to know, you've got to have that emotional intelligence to know that that is going to hurt somebody,

especially when you're dating in your nine and seven. That's such a fragile time. I was like, you know, why don't you, yeah, I used the word emotional intelligence. I said, you know, why didn't that register with you? You know, you're so smart. You're an engineer. And, I mean, maybe that's it. You know, he's lacking emotional intelligence.

Yeah, maybe he's using the left side of his brain. I wish he was on the phone right now. You need to call back for their next show, actually, Ben, show. That's so funny that you said that because I was going to say, hey, can you check back with us in a month? I'd love to see where you're at with him. Can people email us what they think? because we're so split in this room. I would love that because I'm, my friends have their pain.

Even my friends are very like giving me advice, but both of, all of them are divided. I have one friend that feels very strongly, and I have another friend that's very indifferent. I have a lot of other people that are like, you guys are great together. So what are we in this room? What are we?

This is a question, though. I'm giving him a break. What do you think, Ali? I can't make that decision because, like, Emily, what is he like now? You know, like, this might have been a, if it was a one-time slip up and he's normally the best boy.

ever and constantly makes you feel super loved and appreciated, then I say, yeah, give him a hall pass because he probably was trying to be funny and he's just not that funny. Sorry, dude. But if on a daily basis or even, you know, every once in a while he's making you feel not appreciated and not loved and that he's not serious about you, then you need to leave him. So only you know that. What is your, what is your, me asking you that question directly right now, how do you feel about that? Do you feel like he's serious about you? Do you feel like he shows you that love on a daily basis? He's very serious about me and he always makes him feel appreciated and I know he loves me.

And I know that this was just a one-off mistake. But, like, and this sounds terrible, but I'm just not a very forgiving person. So it's taking so much for me to, like, work on forgiving him. If you want to be with him, you have to forgive him and you have to move on. Because this is the thing. If you hold this against him, he will just, you guys are going to start resenting each other. You have to let him come to things. Like, I get the holiday party.

You cut him out for one thing, but you can't come out of other things. you have if you want to move forward you have to let go of this really good advice it's really good advice i just think you chalk it up to this dude is not a good best man stop trying to be funny you're not funny and use sarcasm to cope that is how i get through life right and he promised me that he would never that he probably won't be a best have to give a best man see again and if he did promise me that's a good compromise right it was a good compromise and not even a compromise I feel like that should have just been a given. But, yeah, I mean, I feel like he is making, like, efforts to change things.

But it was a very awkward car ride home from the wedding. All right. Well, Emily, thank you for sharing your story. We do want to hear from you in a couple weeks. I want to know about how you're doing forgiving him and, like, what kind of strides he's making to make it up to you. And we do want to hear from all our fans out there about their opinions on this topic. Our email is Ben and Ashley at iHeartMedia.com. don't forget that we get tweets all week long what's the email what's the email it is ben

and ashartmedia.com thank you so much emily for being so honest and sharing this horribly embarrassing moment with us and not being afraid to do so yes thanks emily good luck bye and allie this was fun thanks for having me thank you for being such a terrific co-host for the past 20 minutes well my my life you know it's kind of a little bit boring some days with my husband and my kid. So when I get to hear other people, things going on, I get really excited. So that was fun. Oh, welcome to mom life, you know?

Wait until your daughter starts, like, getting into boys because, like, my mom lives off of my sister and my, you know, drama, dating life, right? You've got to actually, too, text me when you hear back from Emily and let me know when this episode's coming on so I can hear what's going on because I'm invested now. Okay. Well, Allie, you've been terrific. You're smart. You're wonderful.

You're beautiful. You're great mom. It's so cool to see how far you've come. Thank you. Well, congratulations on all your success. Oh, well, thanks. I know, you know, you were, I don't even know if I'm allowed to say this, but an undisclosed location recently, but I hope to be seeing you on my TV soon.

Who knows. Yeah. Anyway, don't distract me now. All right. We usually end by saying, I've been Ashley. I've been Allie. There you go. Thanks for listening to the Almost Sanchez podcast.

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