The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - S3 #4 Daddy Issues

Episode Date: October 11, 2017

Ben and Ashley tackle the topic of whether or not it's sexy or creepy when a girl calls her boyfriend "daddy". Also, Peter joins the Bachelor Winter Games, Nick gets a job AND...it's time for another round of "Who the Heck Are You?" featuring Vinny Vinsane! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast with IHartRadio. It is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast. I'm Ben. I'm Ashley. And we are excited to be with you this week. We have a great show prepared for you. Ashley and I have a lot to catch up on. I've actually missed Ashley a lot. I haven't talked to her. And it seems like, I don't know, three or four days. Ashley, how are you doing? It has felt so long. It's only been seven days since we sat.

here together actually in studio and I've been great it's been a pretty relaxing week for me actually I haven't had one of those for a while I haven't seen you since I was and we can't go into details but you know I guess we talked the day after lip sync battle and and that was the last moment I've been able to lay eyes on you and at that time I still had makeup on my face from the night before so this I I promise today my makeup is a little less than last time well tweet me guys at Ashley Ico to tell me what you think about Guy Liner because I think Ben rocked it and back in the late 2000s

when it used to be a more common thing I was so into it. I think it's so sexy. I mean, I want to admit some to you and I didn't know if I'd do this or not. I'm kind of into it. Did you look at yourself in the mirror and I was like, yeah. I don't know if you noticed

but the next day when I came into studio and everybody's like, oh, here's some stuff to help you get it off and I was a little hesitant. I was like, oh, it's not working. no, it burns my eyes. I didn't want to take it off. I knew I had an excuse to have it on. I don't know.

I don't know. I mean, why does it become a thing again? And then Nick posted a picture of Well, Nick and I at Lipsink Battle right after I got offstage. And I read through the comments, and they're hilarious. I mean, everybody's super confused and hating on me for having a guyliner on. And there's a lot of things when it comes to social media that kind of offend me and make my skin crawl and make me super upset. This one I was oddly confident in. So I don't know.

I just had to admit that to you and everybody listening. Well, I'm glad that you do feel confident in makeup because you look great in it. And is that illegal, like, quote, illegal of Nick to post? Because I want to post the picture of you with Guy Liner on. I mean, no, I don't think so. I mean, Lipsing Battle was a blast, right? It was a great show. I had one of the best experiences I've ever had.

I think as long as we don't give away the details, I think showing that kind of behind the scenes of it would be great. I mean, I hope everybody watches it because it was a really good time. I think Rachel and myself really went all out. And so as long as nothing's spoiled and just a picture shared, why not? We can apologize later. Well, you know what picture I will be using now to promote this week's podcast. Once that. One of you in rock star attire.

Oh, that's awesome. I'll be excited to see it. You know, it's been a good week for me, Ashley. I just launched, we talked about it last week. I just lost Generous Coffee Company. And I was actually in Warsaw, Indiana, with myself and the two other founders this weekend, kind of preparing for our launch. And obviously, the stuff that happened in Vegas put a huge, I guess, constrained on our launch. We didn't want to be inappropriate.

We also wanted to respect the victims and the scenario. hand. And so now generous coffee company is not only giving profits to people in Honduras for jobs, but we're also going to split the profits up between for the victims in Las Vegas as well. So it's a big week for me. I've been working on generous for a long time, but I also want to share my small town of Warsaw, Indiana, where I grew up, we did a fundraiser this weekend for Humanian Hope and raised $38,000 for this organization. So I am riding high right now. I'm pretty jacked and Indiana came out once again in support of something great. Ben, you're killing it.

I need to order my generous coffee and put some pumpkin creamer in it. And I think all you do need to do that too. I just wish you wouldn't have told me that you haven't ordered it yet. That hurts a little bit. No, I know. I'm ordering it right now as we speak. Well, actually, you can go to generous movement.com and buy your coffee today. Oh, look at that.

Oh, look at that. You just made a great transition. Speaking of transitions, we should probably talk about Peter joining the winter games. He is the first one's been officially announced, of course, per usual. Mike Fleiss has been tweeting up the wazoo this week, teasing and teasing about more contestant releases or announcements, but he has yet to do so. It's been like a week where it's like, Peter's it, now I'm going to tell you who else is in it. And now I'm going to tell you who else is in it and hasn't dropped any names. So do either of you know any more that we can share with people listening,

like, what is it? Oh, Ben. Do you know what it is? Yeah, no, definitely. I can definitely share. I do have a question before I share the details of the show. Ashley, is there any chance that your name will be announced for winter games? Oh, I have no idea.

So there's a chance. Oh, I don't know. There's a chance. Is there a chance that your name would be dropped? Oh, there's a chance. Oh, wow. There's a chance. Okay.

So this is what I know about winter games so far. I think it's going to be a great show. I think it's going to be exciting and fun. I think it's going to be. a little more less intense than Paradise and The Bachelor and The Bachelorette, but also have this really good feel to it. So what I'm saying is Bachelor franchise from all over the world, right? There's a Bachelor Australia, there's a Bachelor Canada, there's a Bachelor Asia,

like there's bachelors all over the globe. They're going to all come into one location and compete against each other in an Olympic type event. Now, the details of the dating portion or if people are going to be introduced to each other from different parts of the world, I don't know that side. But all I do know is that it won't just be people that we recognize from the United States Bachelor franchise. It will be people all of the world, which I think is so cool and it's going to be a blast. I mean, it's going to be a lot of fun to watch. And I, and Ashley, I hope you're on it because I would be excited. Well, we'll see.

Who would you guys like to kiss if you were on it? Um, I'm, I'm being the non-Ashley Eye, and I'm going to say I'm open to everyone. That's insane. Um, I, I have, you know, I've been kind of Googling a little bit. And, uh, I notice, and this is just me, me, but the Australian Bachelor seems to have some people that are just incredibly attractive. Like, it is wild. So I'm kind of keeping my, my, my eyes open. I don't even know if I'm going to be in on this show, but, uh, I'll be excited to kind of hear what happens. I would love, I mean, how cool the story would it be if, like, Peter meets somebody from the Australian Bachelor and they fall in love and their story is a little bit bigger than we could have ever expected. I think that's cool. Ben, if you did do it, do you feel ready to kiss someone? Amy, that's a great question. Do I feel just kiss?

Yeah. I mean, I think so. I mean, I would assume so. I guess for me, kissing carries weight, but, you know, it's kind of like handhold. too. I mean, I don't know if it's a little bit more intimate, but I think I'm ready. Yeah. I mean, I feel pretty good. Like, I'm in a pretty good spot. I'm cruising along. Life's good. You know, I'm busy. The almost famous podcast is a great little thing for me. So, and I'm still working. So, I mean, I'm feeling pretty confident in life right now. And it might be the guyliner I were last

weekend. But I'm feeling pretty nice. All right. I think Ben's been kissing girls. I think it's safe to say. I don't think you can take that from what I just said at all. Nothing I just said goes back to I've been kissing girls. That just says, you know, Ashley, if the right thing came up, am I ready to move back into that world? I think so. You've got your swag back.

What do you think? Do you think I got my swag back? Yes. Oh, it's been so obvious. You're like doing the higgie all over the place. Oh, it's ridiculous. Well, so we at Winter Games coming up, that's going to be incredibly exciting. And I'm glad Peter was announced first.

I mean, he obviously, we were hoping to see him as the next Bachelor. I want to talk about, like, how Peter's going to be a great American team leader. I just think he's, like, the face of the American team. He's Captain America. Yes. He kind of is, isn't he? I mean, he has, he kind of has everything going for him to be the face. And, I mean, what a face it is.

We noticed it in Vegas when we were with him a few weeks ago. The guy is just the, I mean, we were sitting having lunch one day, and I was talking to him about his past career. And he was talking about how he traveled over the world for his past career and how, you know, he'd meet all these great people. I was like, man, what did you do? You must have been, you know, an executive somewhere or something. He goes, no, I was a model. I was like, oh, that makes sense. That's completely true.

People like me don't get the opportunity to travel the world because we look good. People like me travel the world because I pay for it. Oh, my gosh, Ben. Or you're doing very good things around the world with all your charity work. I hope so. No, you know, I hope so. No, that's been a blast for me. And it's going to keep going.

And Bachelor Nation has been, you know, maybe I should do that right now. Let me give a shout out. And I thank you to everybody out there listening to this podcast because you have been very supportive of the things that Ashley and I really care about, including this podcast. And, you know, I knew a couple weeks ago. We had a little rough go at it, and Ashley and I were a little down and out. And you did nothing but support and love on us and say, hey, we like what you're doing. Please keep doing it, which makes this a lot more fun. And it makes me walk into either studio or to an office every day or every week and call.

Ashley, excited to talk to her about all this going on in Bachelor Nation. So thank you to the listeners. Share about our podcast, tweet about our podcast. We need more listeners so we can keep doing this for a long, long time. Yeah. I do want to talk about how interesting it's going to be that Peter in his, you know, Bachelor Winter Games lead season will, in a way, be going up against Ari in his season because we don't know the actual details, whether or not The Bachelor, the Bachelor will be airing during the actual NBC Winter Games. But the numbers should be, like, thought of as comparable. Like, will the Winter Games, lead? by Peter, get comparable ratings to Ari's Bachelor season, and then they'll be able to see if they made the right decision with The Bachelor. I mean, I think that's a great point.

And I wonder if that's why Peter's the first one announced, but that brings me to the conversation then about Ari, because I haven't heard much from Ari's filming so far. Usually we can get some hints and we get some spoilers, but not too many people are talking about it. And so actually, I want to ask you, is that because they're keeping it very secret this year, or do people just not care so far. I feel like people don't feel like super connected to him currently, so they're not stalking. I can tell you, though, they, I know for a fact they are working extra hard to keep spoilers to a minimum and keep everything as top secret as possible.

That's awesome. So they're working hard to make sure pictures don't leak. Information doesn't leak that everything is kept under wraps so that when we watch, we're all surprised instead of no. knowing everything. Every season, I say, this is going to be the season where I don't find out who the actual winner is beforehand. And maybe because I'm not connected to ARIA at all, I will be able to be surprised like a regular fan. Yeah, I mean, that's it. And I hope people watch. I mean, I haven't heard many, I just don't know a lot about ARI, but I'm excited to see, you know, how it goes. This is the old format kind of, you know, right? They bring in a random

person who was talented and ready to find love. And we would watch them explore that and get to know them as the season goes on. So I kind of am excited to see his complete story play out during the Bachelor, but I still am biased. And I think everybody knows that. I really like Peter, and I kind of wish I could be watching him, just because I think he really does want to find somebody. And I think The Bachelorette was just not the right format for that, but I think The Bachelor could have been. When Peter came out of the pool in Vegas, it was like Aquaman. Like, I don't know how to explain. It went slow motion. My vision got blurry. Like, it was literally like I remember thinking, is he Aquaman? I will say that I'm like very much a face girl. I'm not a huge body person.

I'm not like, oh my God, his body. But seriously, oh my God, his body. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not, oh, he has a great body. Hey, hey, hey, Ben, I have a question for you that I ask a lot of guy friends. When you first meet a girl. Do you notice her face or her body first? Her face, definitely. Okay. Yeah, duh. Her eyes. I think it's the eyes that, you know, I'm a big eyes person. I think that, like, the eyes can really draw you in, and I'm not going to lie. I mean, obviously, somebody that's in shape and, you know, treats himself well as is important to me, but it's not, it's not my first thing. It's really the eyes. And then people can get more or less attractive just by even the first couple words that they say. 100%. So, you know, I, I, you know, I, I,

guess Amy and Ashley, I want to ask you then to put you on the spot. When I walked out of the pool, how'd you feel? All right. Well, hey, we want to give a big shout out to Nick Biles. He is recovering from that fever beautifully. Oh, right, well, with the moment of silence

made things awkward for me, I'm blushing, I'm red, that swagger that I said I had is now in question. Your body fell in line between Wells and Peter. All right, that's enough, Ashley. You look great. I like your chest hair.

I like your chest hair. All right, Ashley. We're not making this any better. Here's a deal. Somebody does have some swagger, who is in great shape, who we've just watched their journey of love on last year's Bachelor. We want to give them a big congratulations. That's Nick Vile. Nick Vile was just announced that he is acting on ABC's Speechless with Mini Driver.

That is a huge, huge win for Nick. I know this is something that he's desired to do. He was obviously a big friend of the podcast, and so we all want to at almost famous say. Congratulations, Nick, and we will be watching to see how that goes. Let's try calling him. Why don't you guys do a commercial while we try calling him? Okay, great. I do know that Nick filmed his episode last Monday, and it's cool for him because

Mini Driver was kind of geeking out over him because she's a big Bachelor fan. Who would have thought? That's wild. I mean, how cool. I think for Nick, this is just maybe the start. He has been very patient kind of pursuing this acting career. And we've all kind of made fun of him and laughed at him along the way. I know I have.

I don't want to hide that. But ultimately, we want to see him succeed. And so if this is the start of him succeeding, I will congratulate him and celebrate that. And I hope we can get him on the line. If we can't, then I hope everybody out there listening will reach out to Nick via social meteor however they can and say congratulations but you know what's going to get nick really far in this career it's his beautiful teeth that's wow actually that was that was a winner keep going um he may use quip a new toothbrush that bet and i have been using and the study suggests that having good

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and it looks like it's brand new, which makes me feel better about myself and more hygienic and not as embarrassed if anybody would ever see my toothbrush. So if you want to keep yourself from being embarrassed, get equipped toothbrush today for many, many reasons. Hey, Ashley, I don't know if we're able to get Nick on the line. Can we? We weren't, but we do have another guest. He is the star of Who the Heck are you this week? Ben, say it correctly. Who the heck are you? It's Vinnie

Vincane. Hey, Vinnie Vincane. Who the heck are you? Well, no. I mean, I don't know if that's a good thing you guys are pulling me off for this segment or a bad thing. Vinnie, last week when we knew that we were going to have you for this segment, we basically were like, well, this is silly. Everybody knows who Vinnie is. But Vinny, I can tell you this. I forget your real

last day. Vinnie Ventrero. Ventira. Ventira. Well, it's just insane for me now because that is your DJ name. I'm down with that. Okay, so people do know who you are. We've watched you in your little exploration of life over the last year and a half now. But for all the listeners out there that do need a little catch-up on your life

and feel free to give a little shameless plug to whatever you're doing today, how do people know you and how would they know you today? well ben first of all nice to meet you man i never met you in person whoa that's weird nice to meet you too well um yeah i was on uh i got introduced to the bachelor world and um on jojo season um you know made it about halfway through there and then you know life took over and went on paradise um season three i believe it was and had a um a little mix up in a relationship with izzie and i kind of went home early and then um the tide took me back out and brought me back in on last season of Paradise. So I was with that whole, you know,

that season with the controversy and stuff like that. So, and now I'm just, you know, traveling the world, DJing, doing what I loved. You know, at the time when I went on the first show, I was also a barber. I was cutting hair. And I kind of lost my passion for it. So I just wanted to follow my dream and, you know, tour the world and nightclubs and travel and meet new people. So that's what I've been doing since then. Hey, Vinnie, meeting new people and traveling so much and having Bachelor groupies. You have any crazy fan experiences? Like, I know you're no in sync, but anybody ever try to, like, sneak into your room

service, Trey? Well, I mean, there's always, like, little situations where, you know, you start returning to the same city. And then, you know, when you leave, you're like, wow, this one girl kept staring at me and, like, really awkward with the all night, and then you go back there the next year, and that same girl is there, say, like, well, this is not a, you know,

that wasn't just a one-time thing. It's starting to become a coincidence. So, you know, I don't do good with the people that lurk in the corner, you know, if you want to come out to see me, you know, just try to have a conversation, you know, and I don't do well when people's, like, take a picture of me rather than with me,

I always find that a little awkward, like you're like an animal in a cage. So I always try to, like, break the ice and be like, listen, let's take a picture together. Like, I don't want you taking a picture of me It's just kind of weird. What's the best way for a girl at one of your shows to get your attention? One time, I was in L.A., actually, last month, and I guess she, like, wrote on her phone, she wrote,

you are daddy, and I put her phone number right up, right up to my face, right when I was DJ. I thought that was pretty clever. What is it mean? Wait, what? You are. No, time out, guys. I need my second here, because this brings up a great point. It just came up with me this week.

weekend, what in the heck does somebody calling me daddy mean? Please explain this. I don't know. I mean, it's a pretty vague thing. Maybe they need a father figure. Maybe they just wanted to be dominated as daddy. I don't know. I mean, so some girl comes up to you, and she's obviously attracted to you, and she calls

you, you are daddy. Here's my number. Like, for me, I get a very, like, protective mindset, then. It's like, if you refer to me as your father. figure, I want to care for you and look out for you. I don't want you hitting on me. That just makes things weird. It doesn't make it a little awkward.

I guess I could see it for me or an angle. I think in that situation, I don't know. I think she just wanted to call me Daddy. I don't know if it was in a nurturing way or an similar kind of way. All right. Well, we need everybody out there listening to the almost famous podcast right now to tweet at us, Ashley and I and at Vinny and let us know what the heck you mean when you call somebody daddy in the most appropriate way possible, please.

Hey, Vinnie, which bachelor girl, who you haven't dated on the show yet, would you want to call you daddy? Which girl? That's a great question. Call me Daddy. That is a great question. I got to think about this. I don't know if we got enough time for this.

No, we'll wait. Yeah, we'll see. This is a good one. We're good at awkward time. Feel free. Call me daddy. and the anticipation continues to grow. Come on.

You're just trying to be careful now. That's a problem. I don't know. I'm just going to give you a little word of advice. You can fail and really mess up on this show and people are going to care for just a little bit of time. So you're okay. Just say it.

Apologize later. Well, I think something that I missed on Paradise that I thought was pretty cute was Daniel L. Okay. Okay. So, I mean, are we shipping this one, Ashley? No. Vinnie, my cousin wanted to date you so bad, but she's in not, I really wouldn't say that she's mentally in the space to start a relationship with one of my friends. So I didn't give you her number. You don't want her calling me daddy. Is that what you're saying?

She's gorgeous, former model. just don't think I want to, you know, put you in that position right now. Okay, maybe one day. But one day, next time you have a jersey show. They're hyping them up, Ashley. Way to get them excited about it.

What the hell? I'd happily send you a picture of her and you can decide whether or not you want a lot of text messages coming your way. I got this gorgeous friend who has such a sweet and big heart and she has such a good jobality and the best morals.

And all she wants is to care for somebody and to have somebody care for her back. but, and she really likes you and she finds you very attractive, but I'm not going to do it. It's just not worth it right now. No, really. Here, I'm going to send you a picture right now, and it's going to be funny. It's up there for me.

Jesus. Vinny, I got a couple questions for you. Okay, so one is, I asked this question a few weeks ago to Daniel when he came on the podcast. I've seen these videos that you put out there, and I asked him, just out of my own curiosity, is do you have somebody literally following you around with a video camera at all times of your life? Well, I mean, I wouldn't say all times of my life.

Usually when I have a big month planned out where I have shows like, you know, three times a weekend. You know, I have one of my buddies down here in South Florida. He's been kind of filming me since about 2014, but all like my, actually probably early 2012, but filming a lot of my bigger gigs. At first it kind of was just I wanted to make a little short, little promo, videos just to show people that, you know, what I could do at a nightclub, I can show my personality, that I'm not just a DJ, that I'm not just pressing buttons. So I like these videos to kind of show more of who I am as an old world person. And then, you know, once I

had him filming me for about three years now, I think, listen, I want to turn all this footage into like a mini documentary of how, you know, I was, you know, DJing some of the smaller venues, and then I went on a reality show and how my life has changed from that, you know, trials and tribulations, and so I just want to kind of get all the footage that I can, and then hopefully within another year kind of put out, like, a little short, you know, documentary of maybe even adding my upbringing in there, and then to now, you know, current time. So it kind of, so to answer your question, yeah, I mean, maybe 60% of the time when I am traveling, yeah, my buddy Jared is with me. He's a good

of mine, so that makes it easier to just act natural on camera. So, yeah. Has it been good? I mean, has it been good for your career to kind of highlight? like that? Yeah, it has. Like I said, people, you know, sometimes it's hard when you go on a reality show. They think that you're just, you know, pulling like a Paris Hilton and now you're just trying to be a DJ. But, you know, I've been, I've been working in nightclubs and DJing and, you know, putting together events since probably 2007. So, um, yeah, and that's why I want to do this, just to show people that I am just, you know, a pretty, pretty cool person to hire to have your nightclub that I'm not just, you know, showing up for appearance, but I can

also, you know, get the party going. So it has helped those little promotional videos. Speaking of that, what music, what artists really get the party going? I would have to say, and even for myself, I think Drake is always the go-to move. Like, in like the, like, a hip-hop song. Hotline bling. Oh, yeah. That I don't always get people going.

And then now, I think that song that all the girls is that a Cardi B song, was it Kodak Yellow, Cardo Black, I forgot the name of it. If you were to think about Ashley and I in your club, it was just the two of us. We're in the middle of the dance floor, and you're the DJ, and you need to get us going. When you think of Ashley and I, what song do you play? Thank you. I think Ashley loves that new Taylor Swift song because I've seen a singer in our Snapchat like every day.

Thank you. I perform it quite well. Right, Ben? You saw me doing my thing on the boat? She can sing it. She has no shame. You know what Ashley likes to do? And it just makes me.

feel so awkward inside. She likes to sing it in her camera. She puts her camera to her face and she sings and she like kind of does this like posing thing as she sings. She knows all the words and so it kind of looks like a music video when you watch it back. It's something I could never pull off. I can't imagine even doing that and how I would look doing it. And Ashley can make it at work.

But when you watch it happen, oh, it's hard. Only to Taylor. You have to do the lips and the paws and like looking to the side and like kind of squinting your eyes a little bit. I'm doing it right now, not that you guys can see it. It's so weird. Look what you made me do. Look what you made me do.

Oh my gosh. I hit every second of this. Well, wait, what about Ben? You got to answer the last question about what will you play for Ben? Ben, oh, man, Ben, huh, I'm going on a limb here. I would have to kind of go with like one of the classic songs that everybody knows. Maybe like a classic rock song. Like, shout through the heart and you're too late.

That's weird. That's great. I love that song. That's such a good song. It really gets me going, too. It really gets me going. Man, that's weird that you said that. Hey, going back to Bachelor in Paradise,

have you fallen in love on Paradise? Have I fallen in love? I wouldn't say that I was 100% love, but I can definitely see that I was heading in the right direction last time I was there, yeah. You mean last summer with Izzy? Yeah, last summer with Izzy, yeah. Oh, such an unfortunate situation.

but I think you probably grew from it. You learned a lot about yourself and relationships. Yeah, I think I was just leaving as you were coming in. Oh, no. I was there for a little while with you, and I told you that if Wells wasn't going to come in, that I was going to give you my rose. Oh, boy.

Oh, shit. Yeah. You know what you're talking about that coming earlier? Let's talk about Ashley. No, I told him. I was like, I know that it's not going very well for you, and it's not going very well for me. So if the guy that I think is really cute,

you doesn't walk in, then your rose is, your rose, my rose is yours. Thanks. And one second hand Rose, I'm realizing. Um, and she's great. She, uh, I, I hear great things about it. I haven't got to know Izzy very well, but Izzy was on, uh,

the season of The Bachelor that I was a part of. Oh, yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't get to know her well, but I, I think from everything I hear and from everybody that knows her, um, it just sounds like she's an awesome person, which again, reiterates my thought that those women that were on my season and Bachelor were a good.

a crazy good group of women. I agree with that, yeah, 100%. Vinny, we are out of time, but we really appreciate you coming and explaining your job and who the heck you are beyond this franchise. That is who I am. If you're ever DJing in Denver,

let me know I'll come out and I'll head by and groove and move to any music you're playing. That sounds good, Ben. Thanks, bro. Bye, man. See you guys. well you know when what you do when you're about to hit the club you go shopping do you i i don't think

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just a couple today to kind of talk about. And so Ashley, with that, I want to lead you in to point out some of these emails that we think really stand out. Okay. The first one is from Sophia. Hi, Ben and Ashley. I like to think I have a decent head on my shoulders, and I'm not one to over-exaggerate or get too ahead of myself, so I don't understand why some guys feel the need to hide their feelings are just ghost. To give an example, I recently came back into contact with a coworker. We actually matched on Bumble, we met up for drinks and dinner one night, and we had a great time, and that was that. We left with the exchange of a side hug and him saying, uh, yeah, let's do it again sometime. Side hug, sometime. Uh, did I do something wrong here? Since that happy hour

slash dinner, I haven't heard from him. I know Ben, you are recently single and probably not approaching the dating scene so much, but I would really enjoy hearing an episode on how you deal what this dating culture we're living in. Ashley, I'm curious as to how you go about meeting people. Do you deal with the ghosting and lack of communication as well, Sophia? What a good email. There's a lot of unpacking this email. Yeah, okay, well, let's spend some time here, and let's not hesitate.

So let's start with the first couple sentences there. Why do guys feel like they have to ghost? Let's not just make this about guys. Let's make it about guys and girls, because I think it goes both ways. We probably need to talk about it in a universal sense. So here's the deal. I don't understand this. I do it myself. I've done it in the past. I mean, I guess I don't know today what I do in situations

like this because I haven't really started to step back out there yet. I would like to believe that I'm mature enough now and confident enough to say when something's not going well to stand up and say it. But again, I can't promise that because in the past through college and even after college, I did ghost. I would go on a date and I would instead of wanting to hurt the person's feelings by saying, hey, I'm just not into you. I would just disappear. So maybe they thought I disappeared I honestly I want to believe

it comes from a place of just not having the courage to be confrontational and also not wanting to hurt somebody because you know they don't deserve to be hurt

It usually doesn't come from a bad place it does come from a place of not wanting to hurt the other person a lot of people will argue it hurts more to be ghosted

I have a ghosting segment on my I don't get a podcast where we confront ghosters with their ghosties but by doing that segment I've learned what I feel is the definition of ghosting and I don't feel like going on one day

and then never hearing from the person again is the definition of ghosting. I think ghosting happens when you're having a rapport with someone and it's spanned over at least weeks. I don't think going on one day and then never hearing from that person again is ghosting.

That's just a date that you're just not supposed to be with that person. Yeah. And in today's culture too, I mean, and we'll move down to the bottom of this paragraph or this email with this. But in today's culture,

It's really hard to ghost, I would assume. You know, back, what was it, four years ago when I was in the dating scene, I mean, I haven't really, like, gone back out in the dating scene in four years. Social media wasn't as big a thing. And so you could kind of disappear. You could, you know, you could turn off your Instagram or whatever. Now, you're going to be able to find that person. I'm going to find you.

Like, and that's true. Like, they can really find you. Ben, how do you feel? Okay, so, hmm. I don't think I'm ghosting this person. I don't think I'd be ghosting this person, but I don't know. You let me know. So I went on this day with a guy like in July, haven't gone on a date since July.

This guy I felt nothing with like just nothing. It seemed forced like just the hour seemed forced to me. Yeah. And of course I show disinterest or just not disinterest but just neutrality or whatever. And he will just keep texting me every couple weeks. weeks being like, hey, where are you doing? Do you want to do this? Do you want to do that? And I keep saying like, oh, sorry, I can't do it. I'm busy. And the thing is, like, I usually am busy. Why are they getting the hint? Is that ghosting to just keep saying, hey, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.

By me not like saying, hey, sorry, didn't feel anything. No, I don't think it's ghosting at all. I mean, I think at some point you might want to confront it, right? I mean, he obviously still believes there's something. He, he, he's still confused, but it also sounds like he's not very self-aware and he's not very aware of the situation. I don't find that to be inappropriate. The one thing I think that gets confusing with all of this is when it starts to hurt somebody else, right?

So you go on one date, a date to date, it's to discover, it's to explore, it's to figure out if you want to go on that next date. Now, if the other person isn't showing a common interest in going that next day, I personally believe to let it go at that point because it's only going to cause trouble if you keep pushing and you keep prodding you keep texting and you keep trying to find your way into their life. It sounds like what this guy's doing to you. I mean, it's really mild. I'm just saying that I feel bad because I feel like he should be getting the hint by now. Well, I mean, at some point, if you feel like it's, if you feel kind of convicted, I don't think it's wrong for you

to approach him and just say, hey, you know, this isn't working. I think you're great. But if we were to hang out, it would send you the wrong message. And I don't want to send you the wrong message because that would just get stickier in the end. And so with that, I mean, the question is really, and I know you walk a very thin line here, but you do it really well, is you have a lot of friends that are men and then are male. And so, you know, if you don't see this becoming a friendship, then there really is no purpose or you don't have to hang out with this guy. It would just send the wrong message to him.

How do you feel about people that you go on dates with them becoming a friend? I just don't need that. Like, does that sound bad? Like, I just, I have a lot of friends. If I went on a date with you and you wanted it to be romantic, like, I'm, I don't think that's a smart thing for me to hang out with you again just to be friends. I'm real torn on this topic. You are hitting a hot button with me.

That's my problem. I need to be so much more hard to get. And so do you, Ashley. I know, I know. I feel like I'm growing up. I think I'm growing up a little bit. So do you, Ben. Ben, what do you think?

I mean, how do you deal with that friendship with somebody that you kind of would want date? Yeah, I mean, I think it's all scenario-based. And so, for example, I had a family that I grew up with that had two daughters that were similar to my age and a son, and we were all very close. They're like my brothers and sisters. And I love them. Like, I absolutely love them.

And they're beautiful people. They're not only physically beautiful, but they're just beautiful human beings. And we were friends and we always were friends. And they never was, you know, I kind of look back at this point in my life and I look back on that and think, well, it was pretty impressive that we all were friends for our whole lives, that there was never any romantic feelings, right? So I think, for example, those two girls felt like sisters to me, but they also feel like friends to me.

And so that is a very important friendship to me. It's a very important friendship to me, and I will always have them as friends. But then I look at scenarios where, like, we've talked about it before, like ex-girlfriends and can I be friends with your exes. And I think you can be, but I think it does add this little bit of, there's just always going to be that little bit of tension. There's always going to be that little bit. Can we really just be friends?

And what happens on the perfect night when we're out together? Will something happen that will spark something up again? And as long as you're single, I think that's an appropriate world to play in. Are we friends? Are we not? Do we have feelings? Do we not? But my buddies and I talk about this all the time.

As soon as you enter into a relationship, that has to be cut off because it's no longer healthy or appropriate or beneficial. or mature of you to keep friendships like that because it just adds temptation and you have to set boundaries because long term that's only going to affect and mess with your mind. So I think it's scenario-based situation-based too. And this is a great, so I want to move on here to the final piece of this email, and then we'll jump to on your email, but this is such a good email to unpack. We've gotten so far outside this email. And the question to me was how am I approaching the dating sooner? How would I navigate in this dating in this culture and then they asked you actually um you know how do you go

about meeting people and so let's answer this as quickly as possible for me uh i don't exactly know yet but how i'd imagine it going is this is so there's these expectations this is where i struggle all right i'm going to get into my i'm really i feel like it opened up in my insecurities on this podcast way too often and then i get emails from people feeling really bad and sad for me and you shouldn't i'm actually i'm doing pretty well um but this is an insecurity of mine is, and I don't want you to go, Ashley, I definitely don't want you to respond when I say this like, oh, no, that's not true. Okay. Okay. Okay. Don't diminish my insecurity. Um, I think in this world, I never feel cool enough to date somebody because of the social media pressures out there, right? So

everybody portrays these lives on social media. They're hiking. They're camping. Um, they're traveling the world. They're eating the best foods. They're always out with their friends, you know, doing boomerangs of tipping mimosas up and down, and, you know, guys are taking shirtless pictures with the perfect lighting after they've oiled their bodies down, so they look real nice and real ripped. And I never, and I see this stuff, and I know that it's all the perfect image getting displayed, and it's not the true image getting displayed, but it's still, and I can't imagine for somebody that's younger than me, who hasn't been through it, that hasn't fallen in love, that hasn't built a strong foundation in their life on their faith. I don't, I can't imagine how much this can affect

them because for me even as I'm starting to enter back in the dating world I never feel like any woman is going to sit down to dinner with me and go wow I'm lucky to be sitting at dinner with you because you're pretty great and I would love to explore life with you that is a big insecurity and I know it rings deep but I do think a lot of it is because of the pressures that we see to be perfect and to live the coolest best life now on social media and I don't know how to get past that I won't be little your insecurity I won't even respond to it if you don't want me to. But you know it's ridiculous, right? You know that you live such an exciting life. You're the last person to be able to say that. And that's another thing

is that's why I feel terrible for the, like, I do live a great life. I live a very exciting life. My life is constantly moving and grooving with great things happening to it. I'm meeting amazing people and I'm able to do great things. But I can't imagine if this was me four years ago.

when I was not doing these things, how down and out I might feel. And I think that's a sad part about social media, just the pressures of the dating culture today. I guess that's where it comes from, is the question was, how do I deal with dating in this culture today? I think that's where that's the negative part of dating

in this culture today. I think the positive part is that you're able to now get to know people better via social media because you can explore their Instagram page or Twitter page or Facebooks before you go on these dates and get to know what they're interested in. So you're going into the dates a little bit prepared. but I wrote a blog piece on Mahogany Workplace. It was like, don't set expectations too high.

You know, don't try to get to know them too much. So anyways, to answer in short, it's a hard time to date, but it also, I think, can be an exciting time to date. And I would like to believe that when you finally meet that person, they're going to know you so well and be able to explore life with you so well. And you're going to be able to document life so well that dating them is going to be a blast. I want to believe that. I believe that's coming up for me. We'll just see when it happens. Well, I want to do like a PSA for all the younger kids out there.

like yeah i'm not like super affected by social media um but i'm like concerned about high schoolers out there who are so influenced by these curated personalities like this facade that people put out there and just like that's not real life guys and you shouldn't have to feel like you have to compete with like all these filters and all these like crazy things that people put out there i just can't even imagine how hard it must be feel to be accepted in this weird image-focused world that we live in as somebody who's, like, not fully developed yet. I agree. I mean, I thought about it last night, Ashley, and then I want to hear how you're meeting people today.

You know, I was cleaning out my sink. I had just shaved, and I had a bunch of hair that had, like, you know how you get it in the bottom of your sink? And you can't get it out. And it was, like, stuck to the side. So I was, like, scrubbing it and trying to find ways to get out. I was like, this is the picture that we need because that's about 90% of my life is literally, in some way, scrubbing hair out of something. It's not going on these beautiful festivals. Caitlin does this thing.

She calls Real Beauty. Becca posted something like that. I posted something like that. It was just like straight up, no makeup, no filters. I try to do that every now and again just to make people be like, no, no, seriously. Like, the way that we look when we're at events is not the way we look when we wake up. I did that this week. Like, you know, I just think it's good to like keep it real.

You keep it real. Ashley, how you mean people today? Yeah, sorry. We're, like, so off topic. No, it's good. It's good. I think it's relatable. And I do think it's coming from a place that you and I both talk about off air. And it should be communicated to the listeners out there because our lives can't look fun and they can't look exciting. And they are. I have a great life. They're the best. Like, I'm obsessed with my life right now. I'm so happy.

Like, I'm actually, like, at this place where, like, I drive around sometimes. I'm like, I'm so happy. This is what happiness is. Windows down. Ashley's hair is blowing in the wind. Ashley, how are you meeting, dude today? Well, I haven't gone on a date in a long time because, like, I just, I don't want to. They're so not fun, Ben. I really don't like going out on first dates. I really just want God to drop the man into my lap and then I can date him.

I don't want to go on all these dates to meet someone that I think I could date. Do you know what I mean? Isn't that, is that horrible for me to say? No, I don't think it's bad for you to say at all. I mean, I think it's the place in life you're at, and you should accept that. and know that whatever is going on in your life and your heart and your character right now is beneficial and good, don't force yourself into dating. See, that's what I thought.

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But I do need my alone time to recharge. So the last thing I want to do at the end of the day is going on like a socially exhausting first date. So I always just hope that I would meet them organically, but she made it seem like I need to go and like kind of like make it almost like a job. Like I have to go on at least one first date a week. And I'm like, really? The past three times, the past three dates that I've gone on over the summer and because I have taken a little bit of a break of caring because I like to think of my dad's motto. I'm going to find them organically doing the things that I love to do. do. But these are how I met the past three dates. One, met organically. That was the guy that I

liked the most. Two, went on a hinge date. And that was just straight up horrid. Three, it was a set up. And that set up was the one where I said, I didn't feel any chemistry. And it was hard to keep a conversation for just an hour. Okay. So perfect. So I mean, we have the traditional organic. We have an app date who, you know, is becoming pretty traditional. I have a lot of friends and a lot of people I know that have met through a dating app of some kind. And so at the end of this, I think all of us out there who are dating are trying and doing the best we can. So there's not these, I think that's the one thing that always gets in my mind is are there secret ways at which people are meeting people that I'm missing out on? Like, am I just not aware of this super cool little nightclub that everybody goes to and everybody falls in love at?

Or is there this like secret television show out there that everybody seems to want to go on to fall in love and then meeting people and getting married and having babies? Like where am I missing the mark? And I think the truth is, is for everybody out there listening, you aren't missing the mark. You're right on target. You're doing the right things. Your heart's open. If you're ready and you're interested, I can't promise you that you'll meet somebody. I don't want to do that.

That's not the promise I can give you. I can promise you, though, that the pursuit is in the right direction. if you're ready and if you're putting yourself out there. And that's the only thing you can do. Okay. Well, Sophia, I'm sorry that your date didn't go super well, but don't worry about it. You guys just, you weren't meant to be.

Yeah, I mean, you should have known with the side hug. You've got to go pelvis to pelvis. Really get in there. Don't go side hug. Actually, you've got more emails coming up. I want to hit up one more email here at least from one of our listeners and try to respond. Okay. This one I think is really important. Hi, Ben and Ashley. I am interested in knowing what happens to everyone's original jobs they had before going on the show. I just find it disappointing that these

regular normal everyday working individuals prior to the show and then they go on to find love and they never get back to their true normal life without having a celebrity status after the show, Anna. Anna. Yeah, you quit and you do social media. I don't know what she's talking about. Sounds like a great idea to me. I have so many feelings on this. One, no. Nothing frustrates me more than people commenting under our pictures on social media saying, you really have to go get a job. I'm like, okay, I guess this podcast, I guess my, I don't get a podcast, I guess the correspondent work that I do for Access Hollywood, I guess that me hosting at

Clever News, that's not a real job. My four real jobs, they guess they don't count because they're in media and because I went to broadcasting school. Like, I have my master's in broadcasting. This is my job. And just because it's fun doesn't mean it's not a job. I mean, I don't know why people complain about this. I think there is a little bit of a sellout factor.

Like, if you start promoting products that you don't believe in and that you don't like, then I think that's wrong. But here's a deal. A lot of the comments that you're getting, Ashley, that I get are happening about 2 o'clock in the afternoon, Eastern Time, which is about at the core of the work week, all right? I mean, this is a Wednesday. I just want to know what these people are doing with their lives. And, you know, we could go through all the jobs we have.

I still have my full-time job. I still love my full-time job. I get to do some cool stuff on the side. It doesn't really matter, honestly. And I think that's the part that's the most frustrating to everybody out there that has to take this, like, criticism of go get a job. Why are you just famous now? Well, shoot, yeah. Maybe these people have a platform now, and they can use it to either do what they've always wanted to do or try to use it for good.

Right. And I think Jade has a really good point when she explains selling out and how many ads she and Tanner do. She's like, well, my house, my beautiful house was built on this. And I'm providing like the most loving, wonderful life for my daughter. And right now we are just right. We have a college fund for her, which is almost done. And like we are providing the best life for our kids. And like we're going to just keep doing it.

And I think this is the thing. And this isn't it something we need to keep expounding on. I think I'd be, I mean, I've worked for five years, and I still sit in a cubicle, and I still have a computer in front of me, and I still love my Excel spreadsheets. And I do still, with myself, even get frustrated with the idea that I could post a picture on Instagram and make a lot of money doing it and be able to support myself so I don't have to sit behind a cubicle all the time. And that's not a bad idea.

It is a weird idea, and I understand why it can be frustrating to see people do that. So here's where I get frustrated. it. And here's where the change that happens. I really don't care if Ashley or if Jade or if Tanner, if these people are posting products on their social media and they're making money from it. And that's what they're doing to survive. That's a great thing. And like Jade said, she's able to support her family from it. What I care about. But also at the same time, Tanner has a great job and he makes a lot of money from his job. It's a supplemental income. But so my point is this. It's what you're doing with it. Are you doing good with it? You've been given so much. You've been handed so much. You've literally gone on a show and we've became entertainers for whatever reason, which is an awesome thing. And I hope everybody out there listening and that watches The Bachelors really enjoyed kind of watching our stories unfold because they are our stories. But now to all the entertainers out there, my call to action is, what are you doing with it? Are you just making money?

Are you just posting pictures? Do you just drive the nicest car down? Do you just buy the bigger house? Do you wear the nicest clothes? or are you giving back? Are you saying, hey, thank you all for what you've given me. Now it's my time to give something else. And that's what my call is.

So go make your money. Go post your pictures. Go support products. Go out there and shake hands and kiss babies for appearances. But at the end of the day, make sure that you can sleep at night because something good is coming out of it. This is how I think about it. So say I go post an ad.

I'm able to live off the ad so that I can put together this charity. event that's going to raise like hundreds of times more than what I got for that ad for charity and same with you Ben now you can go you do this podcast you talk you do ads during the podcast and now you're able to go take time off and go to Honduras that's right and then go buy generous coffee because I need you to help me get out of my job so hey with that bio clarity so one part about looking good is having good skin that's one thing Ashley you know, has talked about often. I talk about often, actually, last night.

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All right. So this topic, like I said, has really, really affected me over the last few months. It makes me feel awkward inside in all sorts of ways. We have to get some callers out there. And we're asking the question, is it okay or do you call? your boyfriend daddy. Right now we have a couple of callers in the line. Ashley, who are they? We got Carol from Ontario, Canada. Hi. Hi. Thank you so much for calling in. Oh, gosh. No problem. Hey, Carol. So what do you think? Is it creepy or is it fine? I think in the right context,

it can be slipped in and it's okay. Wait, wait, in the right context, it can be what? And it's okay? Like slipped in like in a joking way it could be like oh daddy you know I wish you could see my facial expression right now oh trust me I'm probably just in bed

see maybe it's not okay for me because like my dad's number in my phone it says daddy like I just call my dad daddy half the time stick I would definitely not work for you then. But I think if you're calling your dad father, then it might, you know,

if you just kind of flip it, ooh, daddy, then I think it'll be okay. Oh, no. I'm so uncomfortable. Carol, I got to ask you. So when you, okay, so if you slip in the daddy and you get it and you sell it, right, and he's okay with it, how long do you have to wait to kiss him afterwards before it's no longer awkward? I mean, I think you want to move in right away. Oh, come on. Carol, Carol, you're better than that. The awkward silence will make it ten times worse. You need to fill it with something.

Does your significant other enjoy it? I don't think he likes it particularly, but I think sometimes it surprises him. So it's like, oh, wow, you know? Hey, things are getting weird. All right. Well, thank you this. Ashley and Carol. Can I call my girlfriend Mommy?

No. Oh, God, no. Ew. Okay. Now I'm mad. If you can call your boyfriend's daddy, I want to be able to call my girlfriend's mommy. I mean, if she's okay with it, whatever floats your vote, but I don't think that's a societal norm. Okay, well, what about I can do?

Like, I like a little Latin flair, and I'm, like, all about, like, the mommy or the happy. Like, that's cute. I'm into that. Actually, I spent a lot of time in Latin America and what you just did there is definitely not Latin. Okay, well, I'm just going off J-Lo songs. Yeah, I think I'm totally down for the mommy. I think it's a little different too. Thanks for calling into this today. Thank you so much. We have somebody who has quite a bit of explanation on this topic. It's Alyssa from Connecticut. Yes. Hey Alyssa, what is your theory on calling the dude daddy?

So I have like a theory because with my friends, I will be like, oh, God, guys, such a daddy. I don't have a boyfriend, so I don't call my boyfriend daddy because he doesn't exist. But I feel like there's levels of like, you're like, oh, he's such a daddy. I follow some Instagram that posts hot guys that's called like dirty daddies. Now, Dilps are a whole other. thing. Well, that's the thing. Like, when I see a really hot guy, I'm like, oh, my God, he's daddy.

Like, I just, I know Ashley, you love Harry Styles. I just saw him last week. And I'm like, oh, who's the daddy? Okay. I wouldn't call him Daddy. But I feel like if I ever actually heard my friends or, like, ever thought to myself, I'm going to call my boyfriend a daddy. Like, I would need therapy because that's not normal.

No. Okay. So this is where, I'm going to just throw this out here. You're right. Harry Styles is a daddy. I'll let you to kind of... He's the exception to life. Yeah, he's the exception to all things.

So... Sorry, Ben, go. No, I just wonder, why is your response, even without a boyfriend? When you're explaining a good-looking guy, why is it daddy? That's what I'm trying to get down to. I mean, I don't even know if I'm okay with people calling each other daddy's and mommy's yet. Because I don't even know what you're meaning by it. Like, what do you mean?

So, I don't... Well, when I hear mommy, I get, like, cringy. But, Daddy, I feel like, when you think of, like, a dill, you're like, oh, I want, like, maybe, like, that's your goal. Like, I want to marry a dilt and, like, raise my kids with, like, this amazing guy and be, like, lusting after him, always when maybe we're attributing, sorry, what? I was going to say, when you think of, like, a celebrity dilf, like, who is it? Who's the idea of DILF?

Oh, my God, there's, like, so many. See, what pops in my head has been. Ashley, let her answer. I want to hear that. I know. I'm so bad. I want to you get too excited. I was thinking like, I know.

I was thinking like McDreamy. Like when I think of daddy. Wait, I can't believe you just said that. Because Ben, that's what I was just going to say. And how weird, what had that been? I was just going to say, like, when I see Dill for my head, I see McDreamy, not shut, not. Exactly.

I can't believe you just said that. I think that also, honestly, was kind of like the attraction for me to Peter. I was like, oh, he's kind of a daddy. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Yeah. I was just going to say Peter defines dilf to me and he's not even a dad.

He looks like the idea of dill. Maybe that's why you say daddy because it's like, oh, he's hot and he's going to be a dilt. Nothing hotter than a guy who is hot and a warm loving father. Exactly. Like if I see, I used to work at a smoothie place, I don't anymore. But when I used to see guys come in with their babies, I was like, oh my God, you're 10 times hotter than you would have ever been. Well, see, we have Easton in the studio. Easton is one of our sound guys

and he just got married and he said hey, does my wedding ring make me look more trustworthy and reliable? And I said 100%. I always said like we see wedding race and we're like oh my God there's so much hotter but I think it's because we're like oh my God they settled and like

they're willing to like be that person in our mind so it's like so much more attractive. But I would never I would never like meet Ben and be like Ben you're such a daddy. I would would, like, say it to my sister. I'd be like, oh, but actually, Ben, I don't think Ben's, like, I'm not being rude, but I don't think, look at you as a daddy.

But, like, I wouldn't meet Peter and be like, oh, my God, hi, Peter. Nice to meet you. You're such a daddy. But if you and Peter were intimate, would you say, bring it, daddy? Oh, my God. I don't know. I'm, like, cringing, thinking about that. I don't know.

I think I would, like, text my sister and my friends and be like, oh, my God, he's such a daddy, or he was such a daddy. But I don't know, maybe in the heat of the moment. But, like, then I feel like I would be like, what did I just say? Sorry, huh? I would turn real awkward. Okay. So there's different categories to this.

Like, so you'd look at Peter and be like, Daddy, you'd look at me and be like, oh, he's. He's a wholesome, handsome one. He's a wholesome young man who looks like he has a good head on his shoulders. Yeah, I'm like, I want to go to church with Ben and like, and Peter's a daddy. No, I'm kidding. You take Ben home to Mom and Dad. And you take Peter to Ben. Oh, man, my life's good.

Hey, you know what? Here's a deal. This is such an interesting topic, and you have been a great caller to us. I need all of the listeners out there to please email us this week. Ashley, what's the email? It is Ben and Ashley at iHeartMedia.com. You guys are always tweeting us. Please email us all of your thoughts, all of your concerns.

Please let us know what you think you would call. Ashley, if you're walking down the street, or what you call me if you're walking down the street, and who in your life do you refer to as a daddy? Thank you, Alyssa. That was such a good call. Next week on the podcast, we have Desiree Hartstock talking about her new bridal line. It's going to be great. I'm excited.

This has been a weird podcast. I've had a blast with it. Ashley, you've been awesome. You made me laugh. As usual, thank you to all listeners out there listening. This has been the almost famous podcast. podcast on IHeart Radio. I've been Ben. And I've been Ashley. Bye. Talk to you soon. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast on IHartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.