The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - S4 #8 Janner Plus One

Episode Date: February 21, 2018

Ben is off this week, but Ashley’s got Jade and Tanner Tolbert filling in. After catching up on what life is like with a new baby, the 3 recap the hometown dates with Arie on The Bachelor this week, and what they think of Winter Games so far. Then, Ashley gets an assist from her sister Lauren on some listener emails! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On. On. On, maybe. Okay. This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast with IHartRadio. Hey, guys, it's Ashley. Ben's not here today because he's in Honduras doing really good things with his life. I have very special guests, Jade and Tanner Tolbert here in studio with me. Yay!

Hello, hello. It's so funny because Jade and Tanner are like probably my better friends from the franchise. and when I have to interview them, it makes me feel weird because, like, I'm doing it for you guys, but I already know the answers to everything. So let's start with that. You guys, update us on your life,

how baby Emmy is. She just turned six months. Not years. And then you guys just celebrate your two-year anniversary. Man, two years. Look at how much is changed. Two years married or two years- married?

Two years married. I forget how you guys met. I'm so sorry. Paradise. What? How could you forget? There's a lot of people. Come on.

It was love at first sight. Was it? Yeah. It was. Yeah, we kind of had like the opposite story of Ashley and Jared actually on that season. Yeah. Yes. I had love at first sight and he did not.

How is it the opposite? Well, we ended up together. Oh. Sad. Okay. Thanks for reminding her. So how did you meet? You like walk down the stairs or what happened?

Yeah, Jade was the first one down the stairs and I was, what, like, four, or fifth. Something like that, yeah. I obviously liked her going into the show, but I didn't think she would like me, so I just showed up for the beaches and the drinks and the good time. And, you know, one day later, we actually liked each other and the rest of history. So Jade was on with Chris Souls, but who were you on with? I was on Caitlin's season.

Oh, Caitlin. Yeah. They came from, like, the two best seasons. It was the Bachelor Hayday, if I may say so myself. We like to think that. We might be biased. And did you both make it to hometowns? No, I didn't.

I'm not cool enough for hometowns. Jay did. I got like seventh or so in my season. Yeah. No, I made it to hometowns, but I got dumped. You know, it's also funny, the parallels between Jared. Like, I was seventh on my season, and he was fourth on his. Oh, yeah.

Weird. What a switcheroo. Parallel universe. Okay, so tell us about life with Emmy. And I know that Tanner is a little bit sad that he doesn't get as much attention anymore. What other dynamics have changed? Yeah, the baby steals all. the attention. So I used to get like, you know, back rubs, head rubs, you know, she'd want to cuddle

with me, things like that. Now it's just nothing. Tanner loves being touched. That's like this thing. He is the baby. So now he's like having to compete for my attention. And I lose. And he's like babies are so needy. I'm like, yes, Tanner, they're babies. Wait, wait. I think we need to address this. Seems like this could be an issue. Oh, it's not an issue. Does Jane need to put more effort in? And do you need to be less needy? You know, I'll let you say that, but I might shake my head Up and down. Well, let's dig into it. Are you, is he too needy, or are you not giving him enough?

It's both. He is so needy. He loves affection, but it's like, he's a taker. He's like a little animal. Yeah. He's like a little puppy. Yeah. And he needs that, like, nurturance, even as a grown man.

And, but now I have this baby that constantly needs me. And so I don't even have time for him. I don't even have time for myself. And so when he's like, I want a back rub, I'm like, me too. Jade, I am always impressed by the fact that you still have makeup on in most of your Insta stories. I'm like, how does she do this? Because even when I have a day, quote off, I don't want to have makeup on. No, that's just because I'm doing Insta stories.

Okay. Wasn't there some kind of drama? What? Yeah, there was like, I saw it in People magazine. Their marriage boot camp? Well, no. So, Jay. I have breastfeeding picture.

Oh, yeah. Tell the story because people listening don't know. So tell the story. I don't even know. No, so it was for that third love bra. And so I took a picture of me after I was breastfeeding with Emerson and she was snuggled up to me in the bed. And people were telling me, like, I got some message that was like, you're not depicting real life. You're putting too much pressure on women to look this way when they have babies.

And I was like, that is BS. You can't be a beautiful, sexy mom? Apparently not. No. You can't take care of yourself and look good for your man? Without getting crap for it? That's so messed up. I just feel like it should be either way.

Like, if you don't want to wear makeup, then great for you. If you want to wear makeup, great for you. But, like, you know, you put yourself out on social media. People are going to say anything about you. But I totally addressed them because I was like, listen, this is my real life. This is, I have such, I have just as hard of a time as any other mom out there. Right. And what's wrong with putting a beautiful picture on my Instagram with me and my baby in this moment?

That's nuts. Tanner, what do you think? I'm all for the makeup. Let's do it. Okay. I want to go back to your love languages because it seems like maybe you guys do have a difference in love languages. What are yours?

Mine have totally changed. So it used to be affection, but now I think mine is... Physical touch? Yeah, it used to be physical touch. And so now I think mine is quality, time, and acts of service. Okay. I feel like acts of service becomes that every time a girl gets married and has a kid. Oh, especially with the baby. I'm like, if you want to show that you love me, please go do this with the baby right now. So I can just have

a moment to breathe. Tanner? What are yours? I still want physical touch. Right. Nothing's changed. You get two love languages. I want to be touched twice. But that seems easy enough.

Like, I don't want to harp on it, but like, that seems like you're not asking for that much. No, no. Just give me what I'm asking for. Give me what I need. I think he shouldn't have to ask, but then I think she shouldn't have to ask for, like, things she needs. It's getting easier because Emerson's now six months, so she's less needy. but like those first couple months when I'm up every hour and a half feeding my baby and hours at a time and then he's like asking me for something I'm like wait a second like you know you need

to like just give me a couple months and let me figure out the mommy thing and then we're kind of we're getting back it gets easier the first few months are we're circling back right if this is your biggest issue you guys are good but like I'm just saying I think everybody needs to work at it oh for sure I see this just over and over and over again and I do feel the guilt like the mom guilt, the wife guilt, like, I do feel bad because, like, I want to be able to take my mom hat off and be, and be the wife. And so I do struggle with it. It's, it's an interesting dynamic, but we do work. We try. Tanner works like a regular job, right? You have like a nine to five. I think we all love the fact that Tanner has kept his nine to five. Financially, you definitely

don't have to, but I love the fact that you love having a schedule and you love to, like, hold a position down. Tell everybody about all you do a little bit, but don't bore us. I'll make it quick then. Yeah, I didn't know, like, you can make money from social media when I got back from the show. So I just went back to work, like, the next day. But I'm a GM at a Honda dealership back home. Yeah, all the free cars. I've had five pilots, I want you to know.

I just got Jade one. Oh, the new one? Yes. I highly recommend the black rims. It's a game changer on the whole car. Yep, Amy, how's that? I didn't think I'd like it, but I love it. Oh, good.

You guys had some. Five pilots. Yeah. Five pilots, Amy. You know where to get number six. Get some variety in your life. I know, but where do you guys live? Like somewhere weird, right?

Weird Kansas City. Kansas City's so weird. Kansas City, Kansas or Kansas City, Missouri? We're on the Kansas side, but it's, I mean, it's right there. Oh, it's really the border. I had no idea. Yeah, our house, we're like a quarter mile from Missouri. So your house is new.

Janor Manor, as we like to call it in Bachelor Nation. And it's gorgeous. You guys are building a barn right now. It's almost done. And then the horse gets to live with you. So then you're going to have two dogs, a baby, and a horse. All of those are my responsibilities. Tanner.

So I have a question. When he gets home from work, do you just, here's the baby? She tries to, yeah. That's like my biggest pet peeve. Because I, when I get home from work all day. A lot of moms do that. Yeah, but when I get home from work all day. Not so much anymore.

You used to, right? Yes. I get home. I just want to like sit down and like mentally relax for 20 minutes. And she's like, I've been holding the baby all day, hold her. And then I'm just like, I do not want to do that. But so do I. Like, that's the thing.

I think guys don't understand. Like, I'm, I want to have. that mental, like, relaxation, too, for 20 minutes. Yeah. It's just as much of a job to stay home with a baby. Totally agree. Totally agree. But you're, so if you're each working a job all day,

yeah. Then how do you decide who work, maybe switch off every other day? Like, on Mondays, here's the baby. On Tuesdays. Yeah. I don't know. It seems so simple to me, and I'm not married and I don't have any kids, but, like, he can't.

You can't give me any crap, though, because you change one diaper a day, and that's, like, your duty. That's his duty. That's a rule, yeah. I take care of all. All the rest. Is it one dirty diaper a day or is it one pee diaper? Oh, you never know.

It's kind of like, it's like Russian roulette. Oh, really? Oh, I would save it for the poopie diaper at night. I feel like she does. I get an absurd amount of poopy ones. I feel like she waits to tell me until she knows they're really bad. And then she's like, oh, it's your diaper of the daytime. Weird. Just going off my nine-pound dog who poops like twice a day.

How much does a baby poop? Twice a day. Oh, okay. At the beginning stage, it felt like more. Maybe in the beginning stage, because they don't have a little. much sphincter control. Can I say that? Oh, I don't know.

You can say anything. I learned something from you guys that apparently your kids poop doesn't smell as bad. It doesn't until you start feeding them baby food. And then it starts to stink. We just started that a couple weeks ago. So now it's been stinky. Oh, my God. It's so bad.

And a different texture? Yes. When we were in St. Lucia, like a month ago, they showed me what a dirty diaper looked like from like breast milk. And it was like pretty clear and very shocking. not like poop. It's yellow. It's supposed to be yellow. Interesting. And then it changes real quick and looks like a bean burrito.

Okay. Moving on. I loved this story that you told on my I don't get it podcast about when you were giving birth and Tanner was eating a big Mac. Can you like regale us just shortly? It was a McMuffin. Oh, a McMuffin. I wanted to talk about just like the dynamic of the like six hours that you were giving birth because I just find it's so. funny how Tanner if you guys don't know Tanner always has like a glimmer in his eye like he's always up to something and he's always smiling which is right now right now which is just like the best

face to imagine watching his wife give birth yeah so we got to the hospital the baby was a month early so we were not prepared my mom met us there and jade was like contracting or whatever in the in the tub at the hospital my mom brought breakfast because it was early in the morning we didn't get a chance to stop. It's not like I'm going to stop at the drive-through. My wife's giving, you know, giving birth to a child, but I was hungry. So I just started eating the McMuffin in the room, and that, like, Jade's over there, like,

going at it in the tub. It wasn't just like I was at the start of my labor. Like, I was in the thick of it, you know? Right. And you get sick from all the hormones, because your body's preparing you to shoot this child out of you. And so I was, I had already thrown up twice. And he brought in this McMuffin,

and it was the most intense, disgusting smell I'd ever smelled. And he was eating it right by my face. And he was, like, taunting you with it, too. Oh, yeah. So I looked at him, and I was so mad, and I was like, are you going to eat that right now? And he just, like, started laughing. And I was like, no.

I was trying to keep it light. You had no pain meds, too. No pain meds, though. Can you imagine my situation? Anger, just outrageous anger. Then there was the fact that she came out, really, really quickly, and you did it in an interesting manner. Tell people about how you did give birth. Well, I labored in a tub. And then you got on your knees. Yeah, so my, so I had a midwife,

and she wanted me to deliver, like, still on a bed. So I got on the bed kind of, like, on my hands and knees. And then, you know, when the bed angle's back, it's not all the way down, the hospital beds, I just kind of leaned over my arms over it and just kind of pushed her out in a backward squat, Which I feel seems easier, and I just wanted to, like, put that out there because I think a lot of girls don't know that you can deliver like that. But if you want to know all the rest of those dirty details, they're on our other podcast. Yeah. I don't get a podcast.

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Wait, you guys, this is insane. They even have an adjustment for snoring. Does your bed do that? There you go, Tanner. You're the one that snored when you were pregnant. I did. I know, but I feel like Tanner actually has a snoring issue, doesn't he? He does, so he snores when he lays on his back.

So he has to lay on his side. So you just, like, roll him over? You push him over? All right, well, you guys need a sleep number, obviously. obviously. Don't miss the best bed for couples at the lowest prices of the season. Come in now at a sleep number store and save $400 to $700 on the most popular sleep number mattresses. You'll only find them at sleep number.com or any of the 550 sleep number stores nationwide. And be sure that the almost famous podcast sent you. Okay, guys, you watched The Bachelor last night. I know this

because you were over my house for it. I know that we talked through most of it, but I still think we caught enough to talk about it right now. Whose hometown stood out to you guys as being the best? If I had to pick the best hometown, I would probably say Becca. Oh, definitely.

Becca's family seemed the most relatable, the most comforting, and the only weird part about it was that Becca's sister decided not to show up. She said that she had work, that she didn't want to be on camera. I think there was like some rumor that she wasn't supportive of Becca being on

the show so that's just interesting did either of you guys uh well tanner your parents weren't part of hometowns but jade did your parents have an issue being on hometowns my parents didn't have an issue it's just my family is pretty quiet and they're like very camera shy so i think they were terrified yeah but they didn't have an issue and they like my mom was the one that encouraged me to go on the show so i had their support okay yeah that's nice was your hometown awkward like loren b's then um yeah it was more like loren b's yeah it was more like loren b's Yeah, I would say so. I feel like when we think of Jade's hometown, I don't even, I don't think about that.

That's true. But I also don't want to bring that out. Okay, so Lauren B's hometown definitely, one of the more awkwards, we, Lauren B's hometown is definitely one of the more awkward ones we've seen in a while. She seems quiet just like her family. We know where she gets that silence from now. just a very serious family, a military family. And Ari knew exactly what to say to get her dad on his side,

which was like, back when I was racing regularly, I took a trip to visit the troops. Yeah, he had that story saved up. Yeah. Oh, yeah, in his back pocket. I have to be honest, is it, like, super impressive? Like, do troops really care to go see race car drivers of, like, a D-level? Is that really harsh?

But, like, I don't know that anybody, like, any of the soldiers were really excited to meet Ari Liondike. I'm not sure he changed many lives, is what you're saying? Yeah. Like, because normally they go for entertainment, you know, like, comedians will go or musicians will go. Right. Like, Fergie went one time. Yeah. That's, like, a big name.

Did she sing the national anthem? Oh, so funny. But, yeah, so Ari won over Lauren's dad, and I think that was his real goal because I think that... From my perspective, Lauren is the frontrunner right now. No, for sure. Yeah, I would agree. You can tell that he likes her the most. Yeah.

He said, has he said he's falling in love with all four women? I think so. Typical Bachelor. But how is that okay? Just because you say the word falling in front of it all of a sudden? Yeah, it means like you're in the process, but you're not actually in love. He said he was falling deeply in love with Lauren B, which is key word that she, to me, is frontrunner. Lawrence Ann had something interesting.

interesting to say she said that next week if you get Lauren through this rose ceremony she'll be going to a fantasy suite with you and you can't she was kind of warning him not to sleep with Lauren along with two other girls what do you guys think about that I mean I get where she's coming from you don't want to see your family member just you know hit it and quit it's just weird to have your family talking about your sex life period like how awkward is that to have them say that to the person that you shut up grandma It is so awkward. I mean, well, my parents have had to hear about it for the past three years on TV. We never have those conversations outside of TV. Lauren and my parents, I'm saying Lauren, because she's sitting right next to us. They never had a sex talk with us. We never learned from mom and dad. My mom, like, cringe when she had to give me a period talk.

Do you think that's why you have held out? Oh, stop now. Because Lauren's here, and she was, she was. didn't have that problem. So I'm going to go ahead and say the sex talk was not the reason I've held out. Let's see. What other hometowns we have to talk about? Tia. Tia, Tia, Tia. So Tanner has a theory that Tia is more concerned about being the Bachelorette than she was about winning Ari's heart. Right. Don't get me wrong. I think Tia would probably be the best Bachelorette for TV. I'd be more interested in watching her than any of the other

girls but I think she's all season long been auditioning for it I feel like she's just done whatever the producers wanted to do I think she's had her little you know speeches lined up I think she knows what she's trying to do and she's having she has a a raven handbook to follow as well yeah I'm sure raven gave her the step by step on what to expect and how to get certain points and how do you how do you think that raven is going to feel if like the girl that she helps signed up for the show becomes the Bachelorette. Don't you think Raven's fine? Because she's all happy in love.

I mean, she says seem very happy in love. Oh, yeah. And then they'll just post pictures together on Instagram and they'll just share their followings and they'll be all happy. All right. Jade with the correct answer. Now we have to talk about the taxi dormity date

with Kendall. That was literally gross. You guys. Okay, why am I like not completely disgusted by this? Maybe it's just because I've been, I know, it's so weird because I'm an animal lover and I would never want to stuff a lot Well, it's on a live animal. I'd never want to

stuff an animal? The flat animal was so gross. Wait, okay, I obviously need to watch it again. I was doing my makeup while watching. It was like a flat animal, I missed that part. Gutless rat. Oh, okay. Well, I'm going to have to watch it again. How do you get into Taxidermy? Is this like a joke that this

show just ran with or she genuinely into this? No, I think she's genuinely into this. Would you ever preserve your dog in Pippa form? Like, would you like stuff Pippa so you can see her in? No, okay. All I know is, that we watched the Jeffrey Dahmer movie the other day, and that's all I could think about. He used to stuff his guys, or his victims?

He used to look at the insides of animals. No way. Wow. Okay, so that is a little creepy. What's interesting to me is Ari seems like the guy that wants a poised girl who, like, wears heels during the day, and it's just, like, you know, delivers fresh muffins to guess, you know? But Kendall has a side of her that's like that, though.

You think so? I feel like she's, like, the weird taxidermy girl at sometimes, And then she's, like, super sophisticated and smart and, like, well-spoken at other points. She is well-spoken. Oh, she enunciates, like, no one else. Like, I wish I could enunciate, like, Kendall, and just be able to calmly express my feelings like she does. I kind of like Kendall. Am I weird?

Is that weird? No, no, no. I like Kendall, too, for sure. I just think it's funny that she stayed around this long because, man, oh, man, when she was eating crickets or caterpillars or whatever on that hike date, height-hike dates. I would have never thought she'd get this far. I find, I'm going on a limb here. The four of them are all a little bit. Am I wrong?

I don't know. I watched it and then tried to remember Becca's date and I can remember nothing of it. No, see, I like Becca's date. She was the girl who wins my superlative of one I most like to hang out with. What happened on last night? You think she seems boring?

I think she seems like a nice girl's girl. Like I think I could like chat with her about like my celebrity crushes and makeup. What even happened on her hometown? Like I cannot remember and I just watched it. Uncle Gary talked about how her dad's no longer around and how they've been the guard dogs of Becca's heart. And then their mom was there

and she was concerned about Becca leaving Minnesota because she was going to miss her if she moved to Scottsdale. And then there was the whole fact that her sister wasn't there. So boring. So asleep. And are the mom's given a script because something is bizarre that every single parent says,

well, if I trust my daughter and if this is what my daughter wants, then I'm going to support her. Like, if I were the parent, I'd be like, this is bat bleep crazy. What are you talking about? You just met her and you're dating four people at the same time.

Like, I'm fine if they want to do it, but why does not one parent say what a normal parent would say? I agree. I'm tired of the canned answers that everyone gives. I'm tired. I want like a villain bachelor or bachelor. at next. Someone that just speaks what they really

want. And a parent that goes, I'm sorry, bro, but you're dating four of evil. That was Jojo's brothers. And they came across really poorly. Yeah, but I like, but we were, but I guess it was real. Yeah, they every parent giving the same answer was weird. Well, wait a second. We have two people here

who knew each other for only like 20 something days by the time that they got engaged and I want to know what your parents said. I mean, they thought we were crazy. Yeah, for sure. And I'm fine. And I'm fine you did it and it's working out but like a parent should still be like or a sister like what the hell are you talking about like he's going to someone else's house tomorrow to make out with them well speaking of that same weird basket of what is in that weird like Walmart basket oh my god it's so funny who brings a picnic basket anywhere in life other than the bachelor they're always

packing a picnic basket and then it always comes to the hometowns it's so bizarre it obviously has a bottle of wine in there and flowers, but it's like, yeah, I brought the same bottle of wine and flowers to the other girl's house. Which is almost as gross. Which is almost really uncomfortable. Like, don't even bring a gift. Do you think he washed the glasses? The one concern that kept coming up, especially with Lauren B's family, she's just Lauren now, Lauren's family was, are you saying the same things to us as you're saying to the other parents you're visiting this week? Yes. It feels that way.

It feels like Ari's used a sentence. We saw it. Yeah. He said the same thing to everyone. My mom texted us and she was like, he's leading everyone on. And I guess, don't they all at this point lead them on? Yeah, for sure. But it's not even in this episode.

Ari's been saying like the same 10 phrases all season. He's like, I love that. I love that about you. You know what I mean? He says the same thing over and over and over. Yeah. And then swallows their face. Right.

He's a cool dude. And I get it. Like he's sort of in this weird predicament. but I do think like just lay it out there and be like I don't know what I'm doing the funny thing about Ari is I've now met him in person three times including the time that we interviewed him via phone here and I love to make fun of him I really do I love to poke fun on him during the week during my recaps but then whenever I see him I'm like you're so nice and you're very handsome and then all of a sudden I'm back to like critiquing him on the show I guess it's just like what you do when you're It's so easy to do it, but then I'm like... It's fun to make fun of people. Yeah, that's part of being a fan of the show. Yeah, you've got to earn your stripes a little bit.

You have to go through all the critiques because everyone gets it. Yeah, I mean, I still get... You can't handle it, then you're a real problem. And, like, Caitlin got it more than anyone, and look at her now. She's just, like, laughing all the way to the bank and, like, still in love and, like, whatever. So it doesn't matter. Yeah. Jade, let's talk a little fashion.

We didn't like any of those road ceremony dresses last night. They were all kind of prom. They just like, I mean, I don't want to say, like, go buy expensive dresses, but they just looked kind of cheap. I don't know. I think you get to that point in this season. You're like, oh, whoops, ran out of dresses. Now I have to do the bottom of my suitcase. That happened to me, though.

When we got engaged, I ran out of dresses, and I had to wear this really awful orange dress that I got from Vedanta. You wore that as your engagement dress was one that you got from the hotel lobby. Yes. Because the other girls that were left, too, I have. The handlers go ask if they let me borrow a dress and nobody would let me borrow a dress. No way. Who was left at that point? Samantha.

No way. Samantha wouldn't let you borrow a dress? Why couldn't you borrow? They just wouldn't, I mean, they just wouldn't let me. I was like, does anyone have any leftover dresses I can wear and nobody would let me? Maybe I would have reworn something. Really weird, too. Like, who cares?

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I've actually really enjoyed the show. Maybe it's just because it's been a breath of fresh air from the Bachelor season. But it's been good. We love Yuki. We all love Yuki. Yuki is the best. Yes. Let me tell you, the girl knew like three expressions going into the season. Okay. Yay! I love you. And Dean, give me rose. And it was the cutest thing ever. She's, I want to shrink her and put her in my pocket. I know. I want to be friends with her too, just from watching her for like 15 minutes on the screen. I know. Yeah, but it was amazing. The amount of English she picked up over a week. And we were like joking the entire time. We're like, this girl is probably in her interviews.

speaking fluent English and being like, I'm fooling everyone. Yeah, I know. We always joked about when she, like, walked to the car, like, her exit. I can say that, right? When she was walking into the car, we were, like, joking that she was going to be like, see you later, suckers, something like that. But, no. My favorite part was when, uh, player was talking to the German guy and he was just

giving her major Juan Pablo flashbacks. Oh my God. It's okay. It's okay. He kind of looks like him. I think he reminds me so much of a soul. much of him is Sean Lowe and Juan Pablo together oh my gosh yes and then he's like we had an appointment for the jacuzzi and I could just it's totally want Pablo over again it's like she's drawn to him

because of some sort of traumatic past she always talks about the passion she's like I want something passionate so she keep but she keeps picking the bad boy who she has that like yeah that traumatic something that creates the passion yeah because bin wah was just like the nice dude who just wanted to like give her the world and she was like we're just friends that was a friendly kiss i'm like what i know there's no i don't think there's no is there any such thing as a friendly kiss on the lips i don't know jade have you ever friendly kissed me there's oh wait amy kisses all her guy friends like it's not all certain yeah the ones that you actually do want to make out with you peck on the lips yeah but that's a peck it's like it's like a peck it's like a peck okay well

just because some people are lip kissers and you're like close and it's just like but it doesn't anything. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to do it to some, like, not hot dude. Do you do to a married dude? Yeah. Oh, really? I lit kissed Bennett all the time. Easton just looked up and he was like, oh, these people, but I lip kissed Bennett all the time. I don't know. Bennett is our executive producer. Um, is Bennett's wife okay with that? Yeah, she's probably there. She's just like open mouth? Like open mouth? No. No. No. No. That would be a little. Yeah. It's got to be like less than three seconds or something. You know, it's just like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I have to say Shout out to Bennett for really creating.

And my friend Jeff, I always lip kiss him. Lip kissing is like fine. Well, that's because you sometimes want to make out with Jeff. Not that, Jeff. Oh. First of all, I only want to make out with one person. And if he didn't like the lip kissing, I wouldn't lip kiss. But like, whatever.

Okay. Well, shout out to Bennett, who actually created the most comfortable Bachelor environment. He really wanted everybody to succeed. It was awesome to see an executive producer who just wanted to see love and not drama. Where was he when I was on Crystal Season? Yeah, I know. Well, with Chris Soul Season, he was Chris's main producer. So we didn't get to know him then.

So it's been really nice for me to do this experience with him. Are you guys looking forward to seeing me fall down a mountain today? Yeah, I'm a little disappointed in your skills. You're disappointed in my skills? I thought you'd like that I was a train wreck. Well, I enjoy watching it. Do you remember her in paradise and the waves? I mean, what are you expecting?

Yeah. I feel like all the guys are, all the American guys, are terrible at every single event. No, Ben and Dean, you'll see tonight kill skiing. Oh, they do? Yeah. Okay. Because Ben couldn't even walk on the ice.

No, I know. Ben in that suit is so uncomfortable to see, but he's, like, not afraid. He'll show his junk in that suit. He didn't have any shame. There were some other guys walking around with their hands over their junk. Not Ben. Trinkage? No, no shrinkage.

Well, there's that rumor about Ben. Oh, there is that rumor about Ben. I'm glad you brought that up. I haven't heard this rumor. Oh, it was a pretty widespread rumor. It's a widespread rumor that he's quite well endowed. Jade is nodding. We've all heard this.

What are you nodding for? I've heard this. It's like a rumor. David Spade weirdly has the same rumor about him. Oh, David Spade I would understand. But everyone says it is. No, well, David Spade has that swag where it's like he's not that attractive, but like he's sexy because he's funny.

He has a great personality. And apparently he's packing. Yeah, but David Spade is. cute, come on. No, he is cute. Lauren likes David Spitt. She would hook up with him. David Spade's very sexy.

Would you friendly kiss him or more than friendly kiss? Oh, you friendly kiss David Spade, Amy, don't you? Yeah, of course. Yes, he's like, yes. What I love about David Spade is he drives a land cruiser older than my parents' land cruiser. It's like a 1999 land cruiser. He has like eight other cars and like a $10 million house. Yeah.

Maybe $20. Okay, there was something else about Paradise that I wanted to talk to you guys about. But now I forget. Oh, but when they were on Paradise? Yeah. Did you get married there? I don't, it's also blurry. No, they got married in real life.

On TV. Yeah. In real life, which is not paradise. Dana Point. Dana Point. Yeah. Oh. For that Bachelor 20.

Did you think it was weird that there were people at your wedding you'd never met? Yes. Yes. Let's talk about that. So let's talk about that. I wouldn't want strangers at my wedding.

You know, when we talked to producers about that, but they were kind of like, this is the list. But is it only because it was a 20th anniversary? special? partially, but I think they still get some say. They pretty much say, hey, you each get to pick like a third of the guest list, and then we'll pick the other. Well, what about Carly and Evans?

Because there was far more intimate. Who was that yours you'd never met? Like Tristan Ryan? Yeah, tons of the couple. Tons like the older couples. Jason Mednick. Yeah, Paul Shear showed up. I was like, hey, hey, Paul Shear.

That's random. A comedian? Yeah. Why? I don't know. Friends of Alon? Yeah. Interesting.

Okay. Did they come up and say hi to you? Paul Shear did not. So he came to your wedding. He bought us a wedding gift. It's on our coffee table. Really? Yeah.

You can't buy me. You got to talk to me. You can buy me. Well, I don't know how I feel about people who I don't know coming to my wedding. But I do know something that is so fab and so fun. It's also fit too. It's fab fit fun. Okay, it's cold in LA today, which is really making me crave spring.

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Can't wait. Wow, Tanner. Thanks. Okay. Well, we all agree on this. This girl, Allie, huge fan. of Becca and I know you are too but let's be honest long hair Becca short hair be honest she has she really but to be honest she's been getting on my nerves the past few episodes I think she really started to show her younger age especially the way that she and Crystal interacted compared to the way that Kendall dealt with her situation with Crystal my husband even made a comment tonight that Becca just makes it seem like it's a game to be one. I was not sorry to see her go home last week. Am I the only one having these feelings

about Becca? Love the show. Love you both. Allie. Did you ever watch her Insta story that I told you to watch? Yeah, but I talked to her yesterday on FaceTime. Why was she doing that? I liked it because I had cystic acne. So I like totally understand what she's coming. Okay. Let me just say as like a random what I experienced. Okay. So I'm like clicking on her Insta story, which shame me for that because I'm embarrassed enough that I did that. And she's a, aggressively, like, being mad at people. I know, but I get mad at people for the same thing. So she has, like, bad skin, I guess.

And so... Have you ever had acne issues? Yeah, of course. No, like really bad. That's like being mad at somebody who's just trying to be nice. Like, guess what? Shut up. So here's what she did.

So she goes on her Instagram story, whatever it's called, and she's like, does anybody have a holistic dermatologist or whatever she was asking for? So then, then I'm like, whatever. Then you click on the next one and she's like, freaking out because people are like trying to offer suggestions like proactive or bioclarity or like whatever it is and she's like pissed about it and she's like I'm sorry to be pissed but please do not offer suggestions you don't understand and it's just like girl calm down she's had stories before in the past where she complains about how people would try to give her acne advice when

people who don't suffer from horrible acne the way that she does she's been on Accutane three times, they just don't understand the pain that it is to go through that. And I have gone through that. And like, I couldn't leave the house without crying. But are you going to be mad if I said to you? I was mad. I used to, I have to defend her in this instance just because I used to have friends be like, Ashley, maybe you should stop using all like the prescription things you've been put on. And you should use seedafil or something more gentle. Or maybe you should just like stop cleansing in general. Like I don't even watch. my face. I'm like, you don't understand what I'm suffering from.

But did you, did you ask them for advice? No, oh, okay, okay, okay. So, and also, calm down. I don't have patience for this. Like, really and truly, there is actual stuff in the world or, like, people have real problems, like, I'm fine with her asking for the holistic doctor. That's fine. But don't delete those DMs or whatever you kids call.

it stop like literally i was like wow amy got fired yeah you can really you can really turn me off with your weird tweets and your like instagrams because i liked her fine and now i'm like bye like you're really yeah that's gray you don't yell at people that you put on a public forum like you put it on your instagram asking for help so these nice people are trying to be nice that's like that sweet jennifer garner being mad when she's which she wasn't because Jennifer Garner is awesome. She wanted to like give away some Girl Scout cookies. And then she got like overwhelmed by how many people wanted Girl Scout cookies.

But she wasn't mad. She was like, thank you so much for wanting the Girl Scout cookies. Okay, yeah. So in context, Jennifer Gardner said my daughter selling Girl Scout cookies, if you guys want some, like DM me. Is that what she said? Oh, I don't know. Something like they, I don't know.

Who knows? It's beside the point. My thing is, I'm sure Becca's nice. Save your emails. Save your mean, whatever that. I don't need it. But I'm just saying if she asked for help and then people are trying to be super nice to her,

like just be appreciative. You don't have to yell at them because they told you like to try avocado mask. I don't know. Is the story still up or did I miss it? You missed it. Okay, well, it's just funny. I ended up actually FaceTimbing Becca

about these issues yesterday. But I mean, yeah, sure the approach could have been a little more gentle. But what is her, like why is she so mad at people? Because it is frustrating when people are trying to give you advice, and you're like, if you don't think I haven't been to the dermatologist and tried everything like that, that you don't understand. So someone I care about a lot is sick right now,

and I just suggested Advil and sleep. I'm sure he wants to punch me in the face because he's like, Duh. Thanks, Captain Obvious for the Advil and sleep. But guess what? Like, I care about him, so I'm trying to be like. That's true. When ever a guy says, like, I don't feel well,

I'm like, well, just orange juice, lots of sleep. and get some chicken noodle. Like, why do I say that? Right, because you're nice and you're trying, like, because I'm actually super sad, he's sick. I can't believe this around. So what am I supposed to write? Like, do you know what I mean?

Like, I, so that's how I felt about the, like, her aggressiveness at me. So you don't like her anymore. No, I'm torn. Okay, well, back to the email from Allie. What do you guys think about Becca M and has your opinion of her, changed over the past few weeks after seeing what went down between her and Tia and her and

Crystal. Well, now I hate her, but I used to like Beckham before this. No, but she was actually one of my favorites on the show. I felt like her. She kept it real and real. She keeps it so real and raw. I, like, I was defending her on Twitter for the age thing because so many people were coming at her.

Yeah. And then when I found out she got off the show and didn't call her mom. Oh, that's something a 22-year-old. And she just went missing. Then I was like, oh, my God, no, I can't defend you. Well, so I was at Women Tell All at the taping last Tuesday. Wow, I can't believe it's been a week. I can't really tell you much, but I can tell you this.

She did call her mom to explain the whole story and the fact that she didn't have service up at the weed farm. But yeah, she really put that story out there. And another really juicy thing that I got from Women Tell All regarding Becca is the way that she took down Crystal and Tia. So, guys, look forward to that on Sunday this week. all right guys unfortunately jane tanner have to go they have other things to attend to including a baby who i think is getting fussy back there I took up all their time with my rant about shorter Becca. Yeah, we could have done that a low name. Okay, so Jade, you look great post-baby body.

I do not know what the heck you've done because I think you look prettier now than you ever have and you look fitter. Oh my gosh, that's so nice, but no, I mean. I saw you in a bathing suit like a month ago. Yeah, but I can't fit into my old jeans still. Really? No. Well, you look great. And, Tanner, you look great too.

I know that you gained some sympathy with. when Jade was pregnant, you gained how many pounds? Gained like 20 pounds. That's insane. Every time Jade ate when she's like a craving, I was like, oh, that looks good. I'll have that too. And I put on like 20 pounds. I went from like 195 to $2.15.

Yeah, he just kind of took the liberty. I didn't notice. Every time I was eating, he would just participate. That's fun. Yeah, I didn't notice though because I don't like step on the scale daily, nothing like that. Right. Did you notice, Jade? Yeah, I mean, I, I, I mean, little dad bod, little chubs. He just got kind of like that tire, you know what I mean, around the waist.

spare tire. Yeah, the spare tire. Yeah, so anyways, we started Nutra System, or I started Nutrisystem, like, day after Christmas. I lost 16 of those pounds back in, like, six weeks. What? That's impressive. Trying to get rid of the Dad Bod, you know. How much working out have you done on top of that?

Very little, actually. Wow, Nutra System for Men killing it. That's awesome. What is it? It just tells you what to eat? Yeah, it's like all pre-planned stuff. There's a full menu, but you can pick, like, shakes, snacks, meals, whatever you need. And do they have a certain one for men and a certain one for women?

There's certain, yeah, there's some, you know, unisex foods, we'll call them. Do you eat any of it, Jane? No, I steal his stuff all the time. Like, I love the bars and the shakes are good. Anything else that he's really had, I haven't done, but he takes all that to work, so. Awesome. Well, that makes packing his, do you pack his lunch? I would, but the man's weird about it.

Really? It's because it's too, it's sitting in the bag too long? Because it's not a hot meal. Oh, I need a hot meal, too. Tanner and I have, like, a lot of the same quarks. He doesn't like staying in a hotel or living in a place that is more than 10 years old. Yeah, he also, well, this I don't agree with, but this is just a Tanner cork that I love. He doesn't eat at anything that's not a chain restaurant, because your theory is.

If it was good, there'd be more than one. And thirdly, we consider an actual meal hot food. yeah you do nothing cold that's terrible that leftovers no leftovers oh no leftovers god he is difficult oh my gosh that's that's a lot of money when they leave let's talk about him okay all right guys well thank you so much for joining me and making this podcast without ben as easy as it could be i love you guys so much bye friends bye thank you yeah all right well now that jane and tannery on amy you want to talk about skin and acne again absolutely well I know that Becca doesn't want any advice as far as topicals to use,

but we do love bio clarity. And so many people say it works. Yeah, people do love it. So my thing is like, just open your mind, take a breath, short-haired Becca, and like let people help you. Don't be mad when they'd help you. All right, guys, it is time to start a new healthy habit if you're one like my sister sitting next to me who doesn't wash her face at all.

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with it being the hometown episode i was hoping you could give us the behind-the-scenes details on hometowns i probably cannot because i never went to hometowns but at what point do the families know their daughter or son is coming home for the hometowns and how many days do they have to prepare? Also, is it usually their parents' actual home or is it staged? And finally, is it really the first time that the family gets to see their son or daughter when they're walking in the door with The Bachelor of The Bachelorette? Or does the contestant get to stay home with his or her family while they are there for their hometown date?

Sorry for the loads of questions, just so intrigued on how your hometowns really work. Thanks, Ben and Ashley. Love your podcast. Also enjoyed seeing you guys on my TV. again for the winter games nothing of the best for both of you love your fan in nashville tennessee oh originally from warsaw indiana shout out to ben all right you guys i didn't think i was going to be able to answer this question but i totally am because very oddly at the week that i was eliminated i was eliminated week six of airing um where there was

i got eliminated where there was nine to six girls so the next week there was six girls left um This is actually the week that they start preparing for hometowns. So I was brought into a room and asked for contact info of my family and what I'd want to do and what we'd want to eat. And it was just like so crazy. I was like, well, I'm sure my parents will order from this Italian restaurant. And I'm sure that I'll go to Great Falls Falls because in my town in Virginia, Great Falls, Virginia, it's named after their waterfall. So that's where I was going to bring Chris Solz. So I guess the parents probably have about 10 days to prepare.

No, you are not allowed to stay with your family. Yes, the first time and only time your parents and family are going to see you during that hometown date is while the cameras are there filming you and the Bachelor. Like, I could never just say, can I get an extra hour with my family to debrief on what they actually. think of him like you wouldn't get that and it's probably what you crave the very most and is it actually the parent's home or is it staged I do believe it depends on the person um Amanda Stanton used a friend's house so I think it just depends on if you want your house on camera where your parents live and what's best for filming I have a weird question I've noticed this time a couple times this season more than ever contestants I don't know what you call them have made reference to

talking to their families. Have you noticed that? Really? Yeah, like, I think short-haired Becca did it once. And then obviously the girl whose grandma died got to talk to her family. But I feel like short-haired Becca said something. This is my sister right next to us.

Hi, it's Lauren. I thought it was because she... I don't get it podcast. I thought it was because she needed to let her mom know where she was or something. That was the only reason I thought... No, because that was afterwards. Yeah, so I'm still confused as to...

They get one phone call. Okay, so this is interesting. During the filming of Winter Games, I think it's okay if I say this. I got to call Lauren a couple times But that's because she was on Bachelor in Paradise with me Like she already is part of my storyline And when I was on The Bachelor

I was there for 28 days, I believe And I did get to call my parents For I'm not even joking you 60 seconds It was my dad's birthday Which also happens to be a parent's anniversary So let me call and just say that really quickly But no, as far as regular communication goes with contestants, they really don't get to call anyone.

So I'm confused by that Becca thing. Unless there's a kid at home. And then if you have a son or daughter, then normally you're able to call them like every other day. And usually they FaceTime him. But what must have been some kind of emergency for Becca thing. She said I was talking to my mom or my dad the other day. About what?

About Becca K or Becca M? Becca M. Yeah. Short-haired Becca. Short-haired she was talking to Ari and she said, I was talking to my mom the other day and she said this. Don't you think that maybe like the other day is like an expression? But it definitely made me feel like she had just called and you got the same vibe.

Yeah, she was like, I just let my mom know that I really like you. I'm pulling this out of my ass. Me too. It was something like that. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, very interesting. Maybe it was like some kind of emergency or something.

If anyone listening remembers exactly the episode and then we could like make a phone call to try and figure out what was going on. Yeah. Email us at Ben and Ashley at iHeartMedia.com. All right. Moving on to a question about one-on-ones. This is from Megan. Hey, Ben and Ashley. Before I begin, I just want to say that I love you both, and I'm so excited to see you both on the Winter Games.

I am truly rooting for both of you. Getting to my question, I have been wondering about something that happens during one-on-one dates. When they transition from the day portion to the night portion, where do they usually go for dinner? The couple changes outfits, and then they split up for a while, and then they get ready again, and then they meet up. How much time is spent in between those transitions? This is a great, fantastic question. being that I've only been on one-on-ones on The Bachelor in Paradise and Bachelor Winner games depends on the location if your daytime portion is far away from your nighttime portion you're probably going to take separate cars there and then you're going to probably have like two hotel rooms where you both get ready freshen up and

then they'll get room service for you. It's not like an area where you don't like go out to dinner in that time. But if you are on a bachelor one-on-one day, I'm going to guess you're at least separated for two solid hours between the night and the daytime portion of the date, which is kind of nice because you get to gather your thoughts. You get to freshen yourself up. And you can just like, yeah, I just take a break from like all the pressure of carrying a conversation on TV. Yeah. So, but then it depends because normally on a bachelor, in Paradise State or a winter games date, you still get breaks. You may get like a 15, 20 minute break here or there, and you're interviewing most of that time.

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30% off today. Now we get to the relationship questions and my sister's going to help me out on this because, you know, I'm like kind of new to relationships. So I need help giving advice. I probably shouldn't be. You know, nothing's really. I want to hear your advice and I'll fix it. Really? Yeah. Okay. ooh i think i like this one okay he won't make a move that is the title of this letter all right you're an expert on this oh yeah that's because they usually don't want to make a move so natalia he probably doesn't want to make a move but i haven't read your story yet so here we go i met this guy at work two years ago we met because we were both we both worked from a non-profit that

builds houses for extremely poor families in mexico and we provide education for their kiddos I am the social worker for the nonprofit, and he is the main contractor we use for these builds. The connection was instant when we first met, but he was engaged at the time, and I was dating someone, so we just left it there. Flash forward to last year, we were both single, and we have built a strong friendship since them. But there is still always flirting. I live in San Diego. He lives in Mexico. It's three hours apart.

He travels all the time here to spend time with me, my friends and my family. The chemistry between us is undeniable, and everybody around us can tell. He always comes to events that are important for me and supports me in every possible way with my career. We went to a concert once last May, May 2017, and we kissed once, and it was an extremely passionate kiss. We have never done anything physical before or after that. So my questions are this. Should I risk our friendship that we have and go to the next level or just stay friends of them? I feel like I'll regret it if I don't take a chance with him.

but I also don't want to risk this amazing friendship we have. Why hasn't he made a move either? I'm so confused. I gave him plenty of green lights and signs to show that I'm interested in having something more. He is 30. I'm 25, Natalia. Okay. Well, I've been in the situation before.

I would recommend using alcohol in the situations more often. I'm assuming that that concert was a drug concert. That's what I'm saying. That's the only time they made out. I think there was alcohol. I would just ask him to go wine tasting or something. Oh, that's actually a great advice. Why not another concert?

Or another concert, yeah. Do you think that he likes, I think he likes her? Yeah, he wouldn't be doing all this effort if he'd like her. Maybe he's just nervous. Like, I want to know, is he straight? Do you ever, I always have a hard. The work thing, like, what if they fall apart and then he doesn't get to be the contractor? Maybe that's why he's keeping himself out of distance.

Could be. Totally could be. I always wonder, like, the harm the friendship thing. I want to harm the friendship. Do you believe in that? No, like you have enough friends. You're trying to look at her partner. She just say, want to make out and see what he says.

Or do it kind of with a little hint of jokiness, but like seriousness. That's always been my thing. It's like I've always craved to ask, hey, you want to make out? But then I never do it. Then I'm just like, me. I find also that the thing that she said, I've given a lot of green lights. I have learned this with guys. You think you're giving some serious green lights.

they don't know anything they don't know what's happening at all they are so oblivious because i've literally said things and think that i am being so obvious so obvious so obvious and then i'm like get like you know i'll i'll hear something or he'll say something and i'm like wait seriously like i thought i was being so obvious yeah even on winter games kevin was like i didn't think that you were into me at all which is why i asked bibby like you didn't give me any signs. I'm like, I looked at you with like light in my eyes and I blinked and pretty at you and I went over and I said, hi, like what else do you need? If you don't like a guy, you're dodging eyes. You're looking away. You know, if you're looking in the eye, you're not

like disconnecting, then you like him. You literally have to be like, I like you. Will you please call me because I want to talk to you on the phone. Like, if you don't do that, they don't get it. As a guy, guys are extremely afraid of rejection. There's such wusses. They're so afraid of being turned away when they lean in for a kiss or something. You're right. They're oblivious to what you're doing. Because there's a 1% chance you'll say no. They won't go any further.

I know. And especially with a friendship, he's probably like, oh, she just likes me as a friend, you know? That was just a drunken makeout. And I probably, she probably didn't like that. Men. All right, moving on. This is from Jen. My relationship of seven years just ended about a week ago.

I lived with him for two years. he was seen as another child to my parents my entire family was obsessed with him and we are a packaged deal for a very long time we were best friends for three years before i said yes to going on a date with him we were so good for almost our whole relationship we were connected in a way that i can't even put into words my love for him knows no limits however about five months ago things started to change this is horrifying you know i'm just saying that he stopped coming home at night he stopped listening to me and things got really bad. I found out that that he cheated several times. It was a nightmare. No. However, due to our history and our living situation, I chose to stick with him through this time where it seemed like he was just losing himself. We're both in our 20s and I'm the only woman he's ever been with, so I did do my best to be as understanding as I could. Unfortunately, though, things got only worse and I decided to leave out of respect for myself. My question for you guys is, even though I chose to leave, I'm really struggling. I can't stop crying. I can't stop thinking about

all the good we had and I can't help but feel as though I wasn't good enough. The hardest part of it all is that it seems that he is perfectly fine. He honestly seems like he is so much happier now and that makes me question everything about the last seven years. Everyone keeps telling me to focus on me but it seems impossible these days. I'm still madly in love with him even though I should probably hate him at this point we have been small talking he reaches out to me every now and then should i let this continue i don't want to burn bridges since he was my best friend for 10 years i don't know what is wrong or what is right at this point if any of you have any insight let me know what i should do jen in massachusetts burn the bridge first of all it's only

been a week oh really oh yeah i amy way to bring back at the beginning of it it ended a week ago. Right. And he's been happier ever since a week ago. Guys grieve later on. Girls grieve first. So he will come back in like three months. I made a mistake and she'll be perfectly fine. She doesn't know what he's really feeling. And she doesn't really know yet what she's really feeling because it's only been a week. Like you got to give it a lot longer. Yeah. And I'm sure he will come back eventually. So she needs to cut ties. Forget him. Lauren is so good at stuff like this. Because when Lauren says she's not going to text a guy. first she doesn't text the guy first and then the guy always the guy always comes back to learn yep you've never had an instance where the guy hasn't well you haven't really had an instance or the guy hasn't come back yeah don't think about him don't text him that's the best way to heal so jen i know that you wrote a long email but that is simple advice that i do think is going to work for you it will never work you know he cheated

on you i really don't think oh you don't think it's ever going to work again no sorry but he will contact her yeah he'll contact you but then you want her back yeah want her you're her back you're her back you're but she will always be concerned. And, Jen, you should always be concerned that it could happen again. Right? Yeah. Sorry, Jen.

I don't know. She could get past all that, but right now, the focus just needs to be like, breathe. Her best friend. We don't know. They're young. Give them time. You can get past all kinds of things.

But just right now, she needs to just sort of... I kind of wish I knew their ages because if they were, like, best friends from 14 to 24, that's different than being best friends from... 24 to 34 I don't think she's old so she needs to just give it a month and then see how she's feeling right all right one more email before we go this is from brittany hey ashley and ben ashley i've loved getting to know you through this podcast seeing you in a completely different

light from your previous seasons has been so fun thank you so much that is such a compliment i am now a fan of yours as well i love that by the way i absolutely love the greatest showman I mean, it was like high school musical on steroids. Yes, it was. Sensory candy. Two questions for y'all. Who is your best friend from the Bachelor family? Obviously, you get close to so many people in the franchise, but if you had to choose one, who would it be?

When watching The Bachelor of The Bachelorette, during your time on the fun, daytime part of the date and then the fancier part of the date, what happens in between the two? Well, Brittany, I already answered that question today. How crazy is that? Thanks for being a light. bringing smiles to me week after week keep it up thanks brittany well bertney my closest friends in the bachelor

family uh that would be ben beca who i would say even if she wasn't standing in front of me jade tanner and jared they asked for one ashley no i'm just kidding you can't pick and dean those are my that's my elite so no offense

everybody who's not in there but you guys i do love you the very most all right well guys It was just me today So signing off This has been No you say I've been Ashley Yeah so signing off

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