The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - S5 #1 Bekah, Kendall, and Childhood Crushes

Episode Date: March 26, 2018

Now that we’re in the Bachelor off-season, Ben and Ashley get caught up on what’s new in their lives. Ben is proud to talk about a major bucket list item he’s about to cross off. Bekah M stops by to get caught up on everything going on in Bachelor Nation, and they surprise Robby Hayes on the phone with a juicy question about his current status. After going over their childhood crushes, Kendall calls in and talks about the “post Bachelor blues”, and what’s next for her after the show.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast with IHartRadio. What's up, Pete? I'm Ben. I'm Ashley. We're back. We're back, guys. Oh, that's a good week off. It was good. Yeah.

Oh, it's a nice little vacation. Ashley, what did you do on your vacation? What did I do? Um, I don't know, Ben. I can't remember last week. I have to go look at my, I think vacations are important, too. I haven't actually taken a real one in a while, and I really, really need it. I'm going to go home next week to Virginia and New Jersey, I'm going to split up the week,

and spend time with my 94-year-old grandma, and I'm going to go see Dear Evan Hanson on Broadway, which I'm super excited about. And then I'm going to go home to Virginia and just sit on the couch and do nothing for at least three straight days. And I'm very, very excited about that. That's the vacation that I need. but this past week it wasn't what did I do last week I don't know Ben you had your birthday

yeah when you I want to know Ashley when you go home from vacation and you're sitting on your cat I don't know if that's vacation that's like chill out time it's like technically vacation because I'm not working do you get catered to like does your mom and dad make sure that like okay I wondered if like they make sure

that all your needs are met that like you can just relax and rest because they just love that you're back to be in their house again Absolutely. I'm like, Mom, can you get me coffee? And it's like, Mom, can you make me a grilled cheese? And then she does my laundry and all that stuff. Well, when I really, when I want food, when I want my mom to bring me food in the family room, I do say, mom. Do you? Are you, you're like, so formal and nice. And you're like, excuse me, mother. Can I please have. Oh, I just make it. Actually, no. You know what? For my birthday, my mom made my, I'm in Indiana right now.

Okay. And so I'm getting ready to head back out from Denver tomorrow. But for my birthday, my mom made my favorite visitor in the world. And I just had a bull of it right before we got talking. It's strawberry rhubarb. I either like a strawberry rhubarb like, what's the word I'm looking for? Crisp. Strawberry rhubarb crisp.

You know what that is? It sounds like a jelly-ish dessert. I'm not into any dessert that's not chocolate. Oh, that's really? Yeah, it's the only thing I consider a dessert. I love strawberry and rhubarb and anything. I like strawberry and rhubarb. Ice cream, I like strawberry and rhubarb.

Crisp, I like strawberry and rhubarb cake. I just absolutely love the taste of strawberry and rhubarbara. That's probably because of my Indiana roots. And so my mom didn't know that was an Indiana thing or a Midwest thing. It is. It is a Midwest thing. which has been awesome because of my birthday week. And, you know, I want to take a second here.

I lost my grandpa. Yeah, I wasn't sure that you wanted to talk about it. No, it's really, you know, and I want to bring it up because, you know, we've promised on this podcast that we're going to be as transparent. We're going to let everybody kind of dip into our lives, and I think it's important to do that. My grandfather was an amazing guy, and at 60 years old, he was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. He passed away this last week after 18 years fighting Parkinson's. What a crazy ride for him and my family kind of being alongside, his side during some of the roughest parts that I've ever time. Roughest times I've ever seen one person go through.

And so at the very end, you know, it was time. I think there becomes a moment where the family has already grieved the loss in a sense before the loss has actually happened. and Parkinson's, and he ended up developing dementia over the last few years. And at the very end, you know, it was time. And so we had a funeral this last week. That's why I'm Indiana on the phone here. It was something, though, actually, I want to tell you with, I've lost two of my grandparents. I lost my grandma Higgin, too.

I loved dearly. And my grandfather, Fox, too, I loved as well. So this is your mom's dad? My mom's dad. Yeah, my dad's mom. And they both at the funeral has been celebrations of life. And I think that is such a cool way to do it, is where if you can't, and if you can find it within yourself, even in one of the hardest times, that you can really just, like, use that funeral or those moments to really celebrate somebody's life. I think it really would be what I want in my funeral.

It's what I hope people do on the day of my passing. I hope they just can look back and say, okay, for however long they got to spend with me, now we can celebrate the fact that at least we were able to spend some time within. And that's exactly what just for my grandfather. So it ended up becoming a very special moment. And no matter how long he suffered, and no matter how much we had already grieved the loss, the finality of it all, and the pastor during the final speech kind of said, no matter how long this existed, and no matter how it thought it was, the finality of this has to always hurt.

And it did hurt. But he is now in a place that is better than what he was before. And so for that, we celebrated a great life. for my grandfather of Fox. So I'm glad on this podcast I can kind of give him a shout-up because he's a good guy, a great guy, and he was also the reason I got my height. Oh, nice.

Six-four. Thanks, Grandpa Fox. I did his funeral on the 22nd, and I celebrated my birthday, my 29th on the 23rd. Did you speak at his funeral? I did not. No. It was a really cool time for my mom, her sister.

and my uncle to all speak, and they all had different perspectives. My mom talked about her childhood with her dad. My uncle talked about her, and he really was best friends with my grandfather. They were like best friends. And then my aunt spent pretty much three to four days a week with him when he was in the last five years of his life as he was kind of passing and developing dementia and kind of losing himself in a sense. She spent a ton of time with him.

So they each shared a different season of his life, which is really special. That's nice. And listen to that, so I sat next to my grandma, and this is so cool. And this is, you know, this podcast a lot of times kind of goes back on The Bachelor and the Bachelorette and it talks about love and relationships and what we hope for in love and relationships. And I want to always keep that. I know you do as well. We always want to allow people a perspective into what we hope for. And sometimes, you know, you don't get to see the whole picture of a relationship to the very end.

And I got to sit by my grandma during the speeches. And as we said, our final goodbye to my grandfather. I was holding her hand, and she just kept holding it even after everybody was done. And she had grieved this as well. You know, she was ready for my grandfather to pass. It was really hard on all of us to kind of see him go like he was. And she was ready, and we were all ready. But she was holding my hand in his big picture, there's a big picture of him up in front of us there sitting.

And she goes, as we were all saying goodbye and everybody had left the funeral home, she was still sitting there. And I didn't want to get up and leave because that would have been weird. And she just looked at me, she goes, man, he's a good look. And you're going to say that. That's adorable. Man, he's a good-looking guy. And I just think, like, for me, that out of anything that was one of the best birthday

presents, it was one of the best parts of that night for me, is to see my grandma, even to the final days through all of his suffering, still be able to look at him and be like, man, that's a good-looking guy, and I love him a lot. because that just shows me true love does exist. That's what we all want, so we all hope for. How long were they married? You know, this is the crazy part, too. Yesterday, my grandma came to my house here in my own Lake, Indiana,

and celebrated with me in person because my aunt and uncle had drove her here, because yesterday would have been their 56-year anniversary. So it was a big week. There's a lot going on this week for me. There's just a lot of emotion. a lot of things happening all really good all really um divine and um inspired and there is just a lot of good things that happened because of them but you know it's also not always easy there you know life hits you hard sometimes and i think this is what this last week was for me all right well

ben let's go on to something lighter but also i love you I love you too, Ash. Let's do it, though. You're so wonderful. Well, Ben, let's change a topic onto something a little bit lighter. Do you think that Becca looks like Kate Middleton? Because I do. I've been saying this all of Ari's season.

She really does look a lot like Kate Milton. I actually got to meet Becca at a one-on-one date a week ago. It was, well, I can't tell you who it was with or what they did. But she is wonderful. She ran up to me and she was so excited to meet me. And I was like, oh, you're exactly like I imagined you in real life. Like she just is like a ball of energy and like happiness. And I think she's fitting in really well.

And I think the guys are really taking to her, which is really good news. I'm not surprised. I mean, honestly, I'm not surprised that the guys are really taken to her. I think I don't know. I mean, Ashley, I don't know how this is going to come off. But let's even include myself into this. Let's go back to Crystal, a man who we all love, your season. I feel like we've had better Bachelorette, like, as a pool, year over year, over year.

I mean, can you think of a Bachelorette that we don't go into the season super excited for? I mean, from Caitlin to Jojo, who was before Caitlin, Andy Dorfman, Andy Dorff, like, Becca, all of these Bachel have been incredible. And now we lead up to this Becca, who, I mean, I think all of America is cheering for her. There is not one person against Becca. Totally. Ben, no offense to you. You bachelors have wonderful personalities,

but it's interesting because I feel like they usually pick the bachelor on like, who's the most romantic and dashing and charming? But like when it comes to the bachelorette, she has to have like this bursting personality and presence. And she has to really carry the show versus you bachelors, you still have your cast of girls to carry the show.

Oh, 100%. I mean, I will, I, oh, I definitely agree with you. I mean, I agree when it comes to myself and Nick and Chris. I mean, I know that because, and I mean, I'm sorry to this. Yeah, none of us are the type that, you know, have the personality to explode a show. For me, I think what I did well was I cared a lot. I really thought this could work. I had a terrible time, and I didn't even know I would, saying goodbye to people.

And so it tore me up day after day. after day. I think for Nick, you know, he was, he was, he's a charmer and he's sophisticated and he can talk well. And I think he's good looking. You know, Chris, Chris is bubbly and he's funny and he's lovable and you just see the guy and you're like, I can't not like like this guy. He's, he's harmless. He's adorable. He's adorable. Yeah. But none of us, but none of us have the personalities like the Caitlin's and the Rachel's and the Becca. and the Jojo's who can just burst off of, like, out of the TV and just make, like, and bring the show out.

And none of us can do that. So I completely agree with you, Ash. Yeah. Erica Rose is pregnant again as I go down our rundown of Bachelor News. So that's kind of exciting. She's married to the guy, right? Yeah. So this is a new guy, second baby.

Yeah. I don't know if you remember a Jen Tanner's wedding. She was with a different guy. And then we had her on and she talked about how she dumped that guy. then she got married and she had a baby and now, well, she's on the baby number two. And things work out. Yeah, I saw that thing. I saw that news on the e-scroll bar. So, you know, it's crazy how many people, how people stick with this franchise and you just can't get rid of them. Not that we want to get rid of Eric Rose, but you know what I mean. No, no. And I wanted

to say also, like, I mean, Erica is great. She's been awesome to us. But isn't it, I mean, I bet you would say, well, isn't it a tad surprising that she's still getting brought up on like the scroll bar of the news. Yeah. Like, that's impressive. I think so. Like, I mean, this thing lasts forever. And she was, she was a contestant, right?

She wasn't the Bachelorette. Yeah, yeah. She was a contestant. She was that tiara. She was on, whatever that show was before Paradise. Remember, what was that called Bachelor Pad? She was on that. Oh, she's on Bachelor Pad, too.

She also was on that show where she taught that guy who had never been kissed how to kiss. Remember, she was like a kissing expert. Yeah. Yeah. That was, yeah, that was a good show. I like that show because it was awkward. And I like to get awkward. Oh, yeah.

It was also done. It was done by NZK, which does The Bachelor. So they just love coming up with romantic awkward moments. I mean, and I've been a part of some of those. Yeah, same here. You know, top 10 awkward kisses right here. Becca M. Just joined us in studio.

And I know we're going to get to her more, but I do want to ask her to throw in her opinion with this fact that came out, or this report that came out this week. And Lori and Lauren may be getting married this summer. Exactly what I wanted to hear from, Becca. Ben, what do you think about that? You know, I said this, and I don't know either of them very well. Actually, I only know Ari from our podcast.

I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, I would hope, I just hope, and I said this when this happened, from everything that they went through and everything that happened to get them together and everybody that was confused and her and whatever along the way, I hope they last. I hope they last too. Remember, you wanted to get married pretty quickly afterward. I did. Yeah, I, you know, I definitely, yeah. I mean, I think, like, things are moving so fast throughout the whole process of the show. It, like, kind of makes sense that things would keep rolling equally as fast after. Yeah. That was, that's so funny you say that, because when I was

at The Bachelor at date a couple days ago, I was with, um, you know, Lauren Zima from East, and a couple other girls and we were just talking about how we met stories and one of the girls there I think it was Lauren's producer was like I've been with this guy we got proposed to after

I got proposed to after about two and a half three years and I was like oh my God that's so long and she's like actually like I'm pretty normal and then they all started laughing because I was with bachelor producers too

and they're like what have we done to Ashley to make her think that that is so long My parents were engaged and married after like two months. Yeah. They're engaged. And then they took them eight months after that to get married. Wow. Wild.

It all depends on your relationship. So go ahead, Ari and Lauren. Whatever. Yeah, I mean, I support it. I do. Maybe I think it's... I mean, I'm sick of talking about it, so hopefully if they get married, they can just be irrelevant after that. I heard that their vacation that they're on is quite expensive.

Yeah. $10,000 vacation, right? It's got to be more than that. No, $10,000? Absolutely more than that. $25,000. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, they look super happy.

Is that true? I mean, I'd be happy with anybody on that $25,000 vacation, though, so, I mean. They went to, did they go to Iceland? They went to, France, or Rome or something like that. How do you go from Iceland to then the Mediterranean? Like, that's, like, a little bit. Quite easily, I would say. All right, fine, then.

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Do you watch Vanderpump? I love Vanderpump. I just met Brittany and Kristen at the IHeart Radio Awards. Yeah. Yeah, I love Vanderpump. I'm not really super caught up, but wait. Wait, that's funny. No way.

Yeah, they've been posting on Instagram together. Okay, because as far as I know, wasn't she dating that one guy on the season just recently and like she wanted to marry him? I'm not 100% caught up, but we have to do some investigation work. Maybe next episode, we'll have Robbie on to confirm this. So we try to call Robbie right now to confirm this?

Sure. Let's do it. All right, let's get Robbie on the line. Here, I'll give you a number. I got excited there This is Robbie Well hello Robbie You're on the almost famous podcast

Sorry for a bum rushing you Oh here we go Yeah well We were just talking about you So we figured that we should call you And get the info straight from the source What's up with you and Sheena

Oh straight to it huh Yeah Sheena is a fantastic human being She's become one of my best friends in L.A Best friends. Looking up and dating that is

TBD. TBD. Okay, okay. So too early. What does that? Announce. Yes, that's it. That's what it is.

Too early to be announced. Is that kind of what we're on? I mean, that's just letting it down nicely without giving way too much promotion. So we can say you guys have kissed. Do you guys watch the Vanter Pump show?

Becca does. I do. Yeah. So you saw the new guy at him spot, right? What? No, okay, so I'm not caught up, but I was just saying that. I was like, wait, isn't she, like, isn't she dating someone on the show? But, like, I guess they were broken up.

Well, I mean... Yeah, no, she ended the show stuff. But I met her through this guy, how the spot, and he was a concerted out for his date, and he now works at Thunder Pump, and he had his first episode last Monday. Oh, I missed it. So me, her and him have just been close.

And every time she's in town, because she lives out in Vegas now, doing her residency out there to Paris for her sex trip show. Wait, she's doing what? So I'm like, you said a strip show? Yes, sex strip show. Yeah, so you remember Kendra, the playmate? She hosted a sex tip for straight men from a gay guy or something like that out of Vegas.

It's almost like a Broadway show. They have like seven shows, six nights a week. Like there's two on Saturday, not on Sunday. So she's also doing a podcast, so she has to come back. She flies in every Tuesday from Vegas and back out every Thursday to go back to the show. So is she hosting the show? Is she stripping? Or is she giving tips in, like, actually doing the deed?

No, not the deed. She co-host with Chester Lockhart. Cool. It's a really funny show. It's hilarious. I remember that you're just trying to make it out to it. Well, I understand, you know, like The Bachelor, those relationships, there's a lot that happens between the time that it happens on,

the actual camera versus when it air, so I'm assuming that's probably what happened. So. For sure. Yeah, yeah. So, Robbie, are we going to end up seeing you on Vanderpomps sometime? Oh, my God. Oh, Ray. I don't know about that one.

I'm not really a TV show might not be in my future, but we'll see. You've probably filmed some stuff. It sounds like a guilty chuckle. Ben's face right now via Skype is just too much. He can't handle it. Yeah, we're in Burbank. Should they just had me up? Oh, well, you know what?

I was just going through this Bachelor news, and I was like, hmm, let's just give him a ring. All right, Robbie. Well, you know that we'll be. calling you again soon, maybe having you in studio. And really, when you're ready to announce, do it here on the Almost Sanis podcast. You got it, guys. And bring Sheena. Bye.

See you guys. See ya. Okay, that's pretty juicy. That is juicy. He revealed everything, just with every little laugh. I'm so glad he called. Ben, what do you think? Look at your face.

You got to explain why your facial expressions like this. I just don't even know who any of these people are. Oh. I have never seen. the show. You don't watch Bravo, Ben? No, I'm no clue. You're not a huge bravo fan? You guys got that. I don't know. And to me, it sounds like they're dating.

I mean, it sounds like he's excited about her. Right? What if he's, what if he's now a waiter at, sir? What's really going on? Should we go in there later? No, he's probably, no, if anything, he's going to be a waiter at pump. Okay, so what's the difference with Pump and Sir? So Pump's the gay one. I mean, I've been to them.

And they have a bunch of hot guys who work there. Oh, I didn't know that. He probably is like, you know, making martini's shirtless by the bar or something. I could see that. Kendall Robby. Yeah. He's bringing his bod to a bar. To another TV show.

There you go. Thanks are finishing that for me. Another thing to talk about is Kate McKinnon and Milakunas have talked about their love for the Bachelor recently. Who's Kate McKinnon? She's from S&L. Oh. And Mila, I know, because Mila and Ashton were on, you know, they're on the season. Jared will never let it die

that Ashton said, hey, so I started watching the show back a couple years ago because everybody kept saying there was a guy named Jared who looked like me. I hear this all the time. He reminds me every day

that Ashton Kutcher started watching the Bachelor because of Jared. Jared does not look like Ashton Kutcher. I don't think he looks like... I don't think he looks a ton like him either. They have a similar bone structure.

I think Jared looks more like Tom Cruise. Jared looks more like a fox. if anything. A fox? Yeah. Like a literal fox. Yeah. Well, I'm...

Wow. Interesting. Are you watching Unreal, Becca? No, and everyone asked me that all the time. Whenever they find out, I was on The Bachelor, they're like, did you watch Unreal? Is it just like it? And I'm like, I don't know anything about it,

except that apparently there was like, in the show, the producers like swap out people's medication and do all this craziness. I'm like, that sounds... Yeah, I don't think that's what my experience was like. No. It's so insane. funny is that apparently Unreal only gets like 300,000 viewers a week

or per episode. And it's just interesting because it seems like everyone asks us about it, but there's only apparently 300,000 people out there to watch it. Like maybe when it's on TV, because I think it's like on Netflix or like Hulu. It's on lifetime. It's on Lifetime. But then like when they re-air it, you know, on. And it's been nominated

for an Emmy. Constance Zimmer was nominated for an Emmy. Well, she's a fantastic actress especially in that role. Like, wow, is she convincing and scary as hell. Ben, have you seen it? yeah i watched i didn't know it was still going how did they done multiple seasons so this one is actually the bachelorette so this season they get like an Elon musk type girl who's this big sort of millionaire and they're finding her a guy and it's actually really juicy i've watched

every here's what my take on it is and you guys ben you can you can comment it's there's a seed of the bachelor in it and then imagine going explosion you know what i mean mean so it's like there's some little elements that I'm sure are based on reality on your y'all show and then they just take it to the drama level because wasn't it like a former producer from the bachelor like I mean just the original concept you know what I mean but just the fact that they have all these weird storylines about somebody jumping off of a roof you know it's just no wait do you remember though in paradise that one year where yeah so I was sleeping with like the audio guy or something but the audio guy was the one who jumped out of the one who jumped out of the window. That was like the best thing ever. Oh my God. I know. They need to have more behind the scenes. I mean, you know, more. Let's like get the cast members to start mingling with the crew more. You know who's, I think, is the hottest handler. Who? Hot Ryan. I call it Hot Ryan. Ladies, ladies, there's a few of us here that are totally clueless on your girl party over there and you might want to not forget your friend Ben. Sorry, Ben. You know hot Ryan, Ben. You know who I think

is Hot Ryan, right? I think I know exactly. Ryan Martinez. Shout out to Ryan Martinez. He is like... No, we might be related. Damn it. Oh, my cat, you would be. He's like a little Joe Jonas wannabe.

And I've always... I know exactly who you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He is killed. In Paradise, sometimes if, like, there's not anyone there for me, I'm like, Ryan, can you just infiltrate your way into the cast? Because, yeah, my sister and I would flirt with him shamelessly. For those playing along at home, what these girls are talking about is essentially sort of

flirting with a producer. Pretty much. Which is like a production assistant. I think that's brown. Yeah, production assistant. But have you ever developed feelings for a producer? No. No.

No, but I could see how that could happen. I mean, they're basically like your therapist. Yeah, exactly. And it's like you have so much more time with them than you do the actual person that you're dating. So on my season, a couple of my girlfriends have developed some crushy feelings on Alon. Yeah, I can see that.

Has such like a unique, wonderful, captivating, charming personality that we're like, oh my gosh, I'm feeling more for him than I am the Bachelor.

Ben, have you ever, well, did you on The Bachelorette? When you were on Caitlin season, you didn't have a crush on like, you know, NAS,

Jessica Anomius. All of them, yeah. All the above. I can see how happens. Yeah, that makes, I mean, who doesn't love somebody that will sit with you for three hours and let's do you, like, just talk about yourself.

Yeah. I mean, that's, I mean, anybody's going to feel something, right? Right. And anyone who can just, like, make you cry basically on demand, you know, within a few weeks, it's like, they can say, they can be like, so, but are you open to being loved? And I'm like, ah, a sobbing mess. I know. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, Louis. And then innocently, like, you know. you know, pick you up without, and tell you how beautiful you are and how deserving you are of love and deserving you are of finding somebody that's special to you without actually being creepy because they've already lived in that world with you. Right. Yeah.

It's a special bond. It's a special bond. Your heart is wide open and it's just being crushed season after season by. All right. Well, Ben, I don't know if you remember, but you did promise us to cook some blue apron and you still haven't done that. Do you have a date there that we should fly to Denver

that you're going to fly here? You, Amy, and you don't invite me out anymore. Oh my God. You have been on a different plane in a different state or a different part of the world for the past six weeks. We beg you to come, Ben.

Yeah. No, nobody wants me on L.A. So I'll just do it for myself in Denver. And that's fine because I enjoy Blue Apron by my... myself because it's just that good. Let me tell you all about Blue Apron. Blue Apron is the leading meal kit delivery service in the U.S. And while many people know what we do, many don't know about the types of meals you eat when you cook with Blue Apron. What I would cook for Amy and Ashley if they ever want to be friends with me again, I would cook quick cook quick bouquetini

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I love the way you say that. I do think that now that it's lighter later, it is kind of more fun to home cook and like hang out. So Ben, come on, the time is now. Spring has sprung. We are ready for our home cooked meal. Amy, you know what I think the next time you and I will be together is? When? At the golf tournament.

At the Masters? Yeah. In Tahoe. No. Ben, can I brag about you? That way you can explain it, but you don't have to brag about yourself. There is a huge golf tournament. Huge.

Like, think of the biggest athletes, the biggest celebrities in Lake Tahoe and Ben. What's it called? It's called the Edgewood. It's at Edgewood, but what is the professional name of it? The tournament is the American Century, let me just, let me just. Look it up. No, it's fine. I'll buy you some time.

It airs on NBC. It's in Tahoe. They play on the water. And our friend Ben Higgins is playing it? Invited to play. Ben! That's so fun. Okay, so it's the American Century Celebrity Golf Championship tournament.

And it has literally been, I texted Amy right away when they asked because this is a bus. I mean, I'm not kidding. And it was funny, it was almost a joke. When The Bachelor originally happened, somebody asked me, and I could go back and probably find this interview that said, what's one thing that you want, like, to happen out of this outside of love? One thing.

I remember saying, I want to play in some awesome golf tournaments. And Tahoe was number one of my list. It is literally, like, you have Steph Curry and Justin Timberlake and Michael Jordan and, like, everybody. And then this year, I got a text. It's like, when you play in it this year? And I was like,

you're three years late, but not. too late. Let's do it. Do you think that is awesome? Do you think they thought they were texting Ben Affleck? That was good one, Amy. Hey, Ben, you know how you got your dad master's tickets and like your dad was crying because he was so happy? Well, my dad got word of this.

And my dad is like, actually, why can't you get me master's tickets? And now I have been on the hunt for master's tickets for the past, you know, two weeks. And every day, it's like, any update on the Masters? And I'm like, Dad, what do you think I am? Julia Roberts? I don't know how Ben did this. But then, like, I get the tickets for Dear Evan Hansen because my best friend works, yeah. My best friend works at the PR, at the PR company that reps them.

And then he's like, so you get hot Broadway tickets, but you can't give me master's tickets? I'm like, Dad, apparently the Masters tickets are harder than even the Super Bowl tickets. They're hard. They're really, really difficult. Actually, I'll send the audio in. I don't know if we'll be able to play it or not on the podcast, but I'll send the audio and of my dad and I on the phone together when I told him he had master's tickets. He starts crying. And he's like, that's my bucket list item.

I know. It is. It's the number one bucket list item. My buddy, a good friend and just one of the best men I know, he's a great dad and a great husband, Zach Johnson. He's a former master's winner. And I play in his golf tournament called the Zach Johnson Foundation, or Zach Johnson Classic every year. Listen to the story real quick because he is, and a lot of people out there know who Zach Johnson is. And if you don't look up. A year ago, my dad went to Jack Johnson Classic with me,

told Zach, you know, his dream was to be in Augusta for the Masters one year. And Zach remembered that, even though he has a thousand things going on, texted me about two months ago and said, hey, I got your dad tickets to the Masters this year. Without me even asking, what a great guy.

I mean, honestly, and the audio is my dad bawling, saying thank you to Zach and thank you to me. And I'm pumped. That's actually, that's next week. We head to Augusta. for the master's, and I could not be more excited. My dad went out and bought new tennis shoes. He bought new pants, a new shirt, a new hat.

He bought new everything. Aww. He was going to be looking to fly and fresh and ready to show up all of those professional golfers. I love that. That is so adorbs. Oh, yeah. It's really cool.

It is. You know, and, I mean, I think in a week like this, like I was talking about the beginning of the podcast, I think this is just, like, a really cool thing to do that is going to be an awesome memory, that how often in life do you get to actually do something that you said is a bucket list item, like especially something like the master's where it's not easy to get to. It's not easy to get tickets to. It's expensive. Zach Johnson and just being the guy he is went out of his way to make sure that like my dad and I have a memory that will last this forever. So I'm pretty pumped about it. So, so great.

My dad and I went to the Super Bowl. I don't know if we talked about this, but yeah, it was one of those things. It's just like definitely, definitely worth it if you can finangle it some way or another one of these years with your dad. Oh, right. Becca, I want to hear from you real quick. Yeah. What is one memory? Just one memory.

It doesn't have to be a family. It could be with friends. It could be by yourself. What is one memory in life that, like, what is your bucket list item that you've accomplished that really, like, to this day, stands out to you? Damn. That's like a big question. I have one thing that I've done, like one bucket list item that I have already completed.

Is that what that was? Yeah. Or maybe an accomplishment in your life. Like what? If there was a dream as little Becca, as little cute Becker, said, hey, I want to do this in my life. Okay. And I want to accomplish it.

I want to do. What is that? Okay, this sounds so ridiculous, but I said for literally years that I was going to be on The Bachelor. That's right. I'm not joking. Like, I've said for years. I was like, yeah, I'm going to be on The Bachelor.

Like, I said it for a really long time. Like my sister's actually sitting here and she's like nodding her head, yes, because I said it for so long. What season did you, do you remember first watching? I watched Ali Fadowski's season. And I was like, I was probably like, I don't know, 14. You're young, because I was 22. How much old are you?

I am seven years older than you. Yeah, so I was, yeah, I was 15, I guess when I watched that. And I was like, this show is great. I'm going to go on this. So, I don't know if you know this, but you're young. Yeah. I've heard it once or twice before. It's been discussed a bit.

When you got that first callback where you're like, see, it's happening. Oh, literally. Yeah. No, literally I went to the casting call. and like at the casting call she's like well we normally wait and call people back but here's the packet for the next getting that packet and I was like

I strut it out of there I know they're like hide this under your shirt yeah she was like here's a little tote bag put it in there I was like and then I immediately FaceTime my brother and sister and I was like guys I was like I'm just saying right now I'm going to the next stage and I was like I'm gonna be on the show and my little brother was cracking up

and he's like you are like you are gonna be on it and I call my mom and she's like Beck please don't please don't go to the next room because I know you're going to get castor it if you do. She's like, please don't. My dad was just like, I kept saying, you know, after I got that packet, I was like, it's doing it, we're doing it, we're doing it, it's going to be a real thing. And then he was like, no, it's not.

No, it's not. And then he's like, stop thinking like that. And like the next round. I was like, see, it's happening. Yeah. Well, another thing that like is a little less, I mean, but really, that's something I wanted to do for a long time. So it was awesome.

It was such a great experience. but also like I don't know if I talked about this on the show but I used to rock climb competitively and my goal I was little and then my goal was to get an invite to nationals and I got one of those when I was 14 so that was really exciting

that's really exciting Ben I actually had a bucket list item happened recently I didn't talk about it on the podcast I don't think I talked about it yet um okay so it's the coolest moment ha ha ha ha ha ha coolest moment of my life so is this about Lance Bass again I talk about it on the I don't get a podcast yes I don't know I scream like two sorry

teenagers on that Jimmy Fallon ew thing oh oh okay well Ben so check this out my sister's boyfriend was DJing a party and then my sister shows up with him and then she immediately took me. She goes, oh my God, Ashley, Lance Bass is the one throwing this party. It's totally 90s themed. They're only playing boy bands on the screens. He's supposed to play boy band music. It's just like, you have to get here soon. So I roll in, it was like my birthday dinner. So I roll in deep with Bachelor people. It was me. It was Nick Cupcake, Christina Shulman, and then Naz and my sister. And I'm going, I'm planning my, my fan girl attack on Lance. I'm like, okay, where is he?

I'm not going to, you know, I just want to wait until he's not talking to anyone, be like really classy. All of a sudden, Lance taps me on the shoulder and goes, oh, hello there. And I go, oh, my God. I go, did my sister tell you early on? You know, because he had instructed the DJ boyfriend to play a certain type of music. I was like, did my sister tell you early on that I was coming? And he's like, oh, I didn't even know that was your sister. I'm just a huge fan of yours.

That's great. I'm sorry. could scream. I could scream really loud, but I won't do it. And I'm like, oh, gosh, he's like, I'm so excited for, like, everything that's happening in your life. Like, it was so great to watch the Winter Games and, like, everything finally happened for you. And I was like, oh, okay, well, we're not together anymore, but, like, that's so sweet that you follow my personal life. I can't believe that you follow my personal life. And anyway, we had a lot to talk about, apparently. And Nick was, Nick came over, he was like, oh, I didn't know you guys were friends. I was like,

we are not friends. We just had that natural, amazing chemistry. And that I showed Lance a picture of my room when I was younger. Anyway, that's it. So when people from now on say, what's your greatest accomplishment in life? My teen idol, who I had like 300 faces of him on my walls,

like, because I had like 350 posters. Ashley, calm down for one second. Okay. You remember you're doing a podcast here. When you say you showed him a picture of your room as a child, what exactly does that mean exactly no i i i okay so posters all the posters of him on the wall you're 300 pictures of him in your wall like literally is a lance bass bedroom well no i mean

Justin was my guy obviously but land is my second favorite and i had 350 posters i used to count i used to count because like 350 you're like this is actually 350 three hundred and then i moved to the ceiling but i only did the big posters that you bought at the store on the ceiling but it was Amy and Becca. Amy and Becca, is this normal? I don't. I would put my child in therapy if they wanted that many posters. It was scary. It was a work of art, you guys. I was a 12-year-old, and I had really high ceilings,

and my mom would, like, spot me on the ladder, but it was like a work of art sometime. Like every year, well, not every year, every couple months, I would redo it with new updated posters. You are so weird. So I would take a whole wall down, and then I, like, puzzle piece it together. I had no posters, but here's my question. So you've got this big crush on Lance Bass.

No, no, no, no, not a crush. Love, okay, just, let me, let me ask this question. In fact, obsession. What happens when you find out he's gay? Oh, what happened? Like, what does it do to your body? Oh, well, I mean, that was, I mean, he came out when he was, when I was like 20. He were over it.

And I wasn't, I loved him, like, as a person, but Justin was the one that I imagined myself marrying. Because our friend Brittany was super in love with Clayton. I mean, Clayton. Clayakin was my other one. Clayakin, I was obsessed with him in love in love, but yeah, he also didn't come out until later. And she cried. Ben, who was your crush

when you were like a teenager? Not now, but when you were like a teen. Who'd you have posters of? I mean, this is easy. I'm not very like, Kelly Capathy. Oh, Tiffany Thiessen. Should I have her on this show? How would you feel about that? She looks like Britt Mealson.

Is this like an, am I too young? for this? She's Tiffany Theson. She's from Save by the Bell. I didn't watch Save by the Bell. I have to see. I've have to see. I didn't watch State by the Bell. No, no. I wasn't allowed to watch a lot of I wasn't really allowed to watch TV. Ben, how do you think you'll do interviewing Tiffany

Theson? Because I'm going to make that happen because I want to see the awkwardness. I don't know if I He's already giggling and not being able to complete a sentence. I'd be so excited. I'm not like, yeah. Oh my gosh. You can barely. He's a sentence. together.

She has a new show. I heard that. Ben, Britt Nielsen, aka one of your bacheloretts, she looks just like her. I know.

I know there's a lot to that. I thought about it before and as well. It's a big deal. Well, it's not just her look because obviously she's a beautiful person. But Tiffany and Britsy and like, Kelly Capowski was just a good down-home girl

who wanted to be a teammate and a good partner. She would show up to the diner with a smile on her face, ready for a good time, with all of our friends. Oh, my. Oh, is this real life? I am in the description. This is so great. Becca, as being from a whole different generation, who is your, like, little crush growing up? Is it like Justin Bieber? You know what? I've never, I'm not going to lie, I've never been a fan girl. Like, I always like, and my neighbors, you know, and I love, that's what I love. I tell, I'm like, you know what, Ashley's great, because you're just an unapologetic fan girl, and I admire that. You know, my neighbors were like the biggest fan.

They always had crushes with the posters and everything on the walls. And, like, I admired it. I just never really was, like, into anyone like that. I just wish we had the video of Ben's squirreliness right now. Right now. It's, like, literally the best. He got so. That was just, like, the smile on his face.

Beaning. Beaning. I mean, honestly, you think about it. You grew up and I had a few of my favorites, Britney Spears, Tiffany Amber Theson Jennifer Aniston I had there on

I still have the folder somewhere here at this house of them it was my art folder and I cut out their pictures out of a magazine I was yeah that was weird

I'm gonna stop there I'm gonna stop there Amy I'm interested because we've talked generational gaps now Becca Ashley and I who was really who was a hot commodity

back in your day well that's what we just I'm trying to think back because this is a completely different generation like 80s because I'm 80s. Like I was like a young kid.

JFK Jr. JFK Jr. sexy's been a lot my birthday or 1988. Do you guys know who Kurt Cameron is? Yes. Growing paint is my favorite. Growing pains over everything.

A lot of people liked Axel Rose. Do you know who that is? Gens and Rose is Axel Rose. I mean, these are well-known names. You know, a girl in high school was really obsessed with George Michael. And I, same thing. Another clique and Lance Bass situation. There is a thing where you, these teens fall in love with the boys that will never like them. But that's what it is. It's a, it's safe and it's not scary and they're not going to

do anything to you. But I think I'm from an era where there wasn't a lot of this. We missed it. We were not, you know, we were too old for new kids on the block and we were. You were too old for new kids? Yeah, we didn't have, there was none of this boy band stuff. I mean, we were not, that was not what we were. But JFK Jr. Well, of course, but nobody had like a teen idol crush on it. Oh, yeah, nobody had like posters of JFK Jr. I have one in my apartment. Are you serious? It's a good place to stop for a second. For all of our listeners out there, I have to stay relevant. I need to stay relevant. I'm clawing for relevancy.

No, yes. No, not as people. Not as people, just up to date with what's cool in the world. world, please email us at Ben and Ashley iHeartMedia.com. Who is the crushes today? Like, who does everybody have crushed on? Guys and girls? I need to hear. No, like, Sean Mendez. Yeah, Sean Mendez. Is that a bad of things? Yes. So, I have to admit that at 30 years old, I finally

I finally don't know who's hot. I don't know. Who's in? No, I mean, I work at clever TV. Well, depends what age you are. So if you're really young, you like the, um, YouTubers. Yeah, I don't get the YouTube. I don't get YouTubers. Do you follow YouTube? No, my sister does.

Oh my gosh. Guys, we're getting old. Why are you so pretty both of you? Holy crap. All right. So you know what? Just because I need to calm down, take rest. Maybe a full sleep in between these segments.

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That was quick. Oh, my God. That is very, very fast. They're calling Tiffany. So it's all on you because I only said, hey, would she call Ben Higgins? Oh, is she married, hold up Yeah, she's married

She is, she's married So at least you have an understanding of exactly my intentions here I'm not trying to do anything weird I'm just going to talk I'm going to play with her I was going to say You know, this could get ugly You and are on the same page here

I don't want her to get an email The one email, the one time I can actually connect with Tiffany Amber Thiefen And she responds with you gross Not into something like that Like that would crush me forever As if My hope for next week is just that Ben becomes Ashley and Ashley becomes Ben.

Oh, my gosh, yes. And I'm going to have to calm you down. It's just weird to think that, I mean, I'm not kidding. I still remember the moment where I used to sit at home and I used to think, I didn't know God created women or people this pretty. Like, how does that happen? Oh, my God. That's so cute.

And now I'm going to be able to talk to her. Ben, she's going to be so blushy. I just blushed. I know. Wow. You know, but you know those moments where you see somebody? I mean, it still happens today and you're like, or those moments in life just, and you're like, I didn't know moments like this could exist.

Oh. I mean, that kind of stuff is how I felt about Tiffany as a young child. She has, she set my standard very high in life. Wow. Wow. Well, you guys, if you look like Tiffany Amber Thesson and you're, age appropriate. Please call Ben Higgins. Email Ben and Ashley at iHeartMedia.com with a picture. Wait, why don't, what if there's just a dating show like The Bachelor, but it's just

girls who are lookalikes? That's a good idea, actually. I also think she dropped the amber. Yeah, she did. She did. Tiffany's in. Yeah, Ben. I'm going to look at, yeah. You're going to come in studio for that one? I don't know. No, I'll just be as far away from that studio as possible because I'll, I'll get real weird on it. This is the problem that's working with Amy is when we bring up these people and we're just like, yeah, like I've been real under her before. Amy will just be like, yeah, we'll get her on next week. And then it happens. And now I'm stuck. Like this just now I got to prepare myself. I got to shave next week. I got to comb my hair.

How old is she now, by the way? He's probably 40. She's about my age. Yeah. She's like my age. You know what you should do, Ben? Beach body. Wait, Amy, you're saying we're in the same week. What up, Amy? I don't think so. So she's 43. Yeah, she's 43. Yeah, she, oh, I'm one year. 44.

Oh, no, I'm exactly her age. I am exactly her age. And I've known her probably 20 years. Yep. Yeah, Ben. She never does this with me and my event, Amelia. I mean. Hey.

He was like, he's above your pangreid. I still don't know who that is. I was with him. Did I say I got to sit by him another night? No, you didn't tell. me this casually. What? Basketball game. Yeah, he was at the UCA basketball game when I was there.

He's his good looking and real life is used on TV. I'll tell you that. Ben, tell me everything. Yeah, Sarah Barnett is my best friend's wife. He's the coach, one of the coaches at UCLA, and we were at the game, and she just had a new baby, and

we were sitting there together, and he sat on the front row, and he walked up the aisle of the stairs, and she got nervous. And she is, I mean, and that's the see Sarah excited about somebody is pretty funny too because, I mean, she's happily married with a kid and so she got real nervous, real anxious. She tried to, she tried to use her baby to get a picture with him. But yeah, he's a good looking fella. It's not just his looks. It's really not even his looks. It's all about the warmth that he exudes. Yeah. Here's, okay, you guys are

both like weirdos. You know these people. Chill out. Oh my gosh. Just the way he talks. my nas put it perfectly he's the perfect combination of somebody who you want to be your boyfriend but he's also kind of like your dad I know that no no I get that I really get that that makes total oh that makes total sense makes total sense makes total sense yeah Kendall you're on the line with the messiest almost famous podcast of all time we're really just like gushing about random stuff today um what do you want to gush about what's a fan girl over Kendall oh hello oh hello how are you guys We were great. Kendall. Ted Kendall, tell us what you love.

No, tell us who your teen celebrity crush was. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my teen celebrity crush had to have been Jeremy Sumter and Peter Pan. Wait. You would. You would have. I literally made sure I look cute every night before just in case he came into my window. Wait, who in Peter Pan?

You are so, you guys are all weird. Wait, Peter Pan, like in the hook version? Wait, he is cute I just, oh, I know exactly what you're talking about Yes, no, he is so beautiful He's so Okay, admission I never saw Hook

Look, I mean, look at him Oh, you have to No, he's, he's real cute He's just got that very boyish Oh yes, he's very Taylor Hanson But almost like a feminine Face, so pretty Oh, I love him, I love the feminine

Yeah, so he was definitely my crush Okay, that's a good one, didn't get it it now I just saw a picture and I say okay got it got it well what were your guys is oh we already talked about it I don't think I really had any although you know what I found girled so hard over I bringing him up all the time that's creepy and people always think I'm like trying to get him to slide into my DMs but I had a huge crush on Peter on Rachel's season like I would watch I rewatched the dates stop no Amy did you hear that should we get Peter on the line next one okay fine well we'll ask

him about you, Becca. No, don't. It makes it seem like I'm trying to hit on him and I'm not. I've moved on. Okay. Who have you moved on to? Well, I don't know. Anyway. You know what? We're going to go back to Bachelor Talk for just a second.

When the show ends and you go as far as you did, you have been there for seven weeks. How odd was it to readjust back to real life? Do you have what I call the post-batchelor depression? It's not a real depression, but it's like, oh, excuse me. So true. I 100% had that.

Yeah, you're like, I just, I want to sit inside and talk about The Bachelor and nothing but the Bachelor with my mom for just for a whole week. Right? No, because there's so much that goes on and you're catching everybody else, but everyone else up, but you're also trying to, like, figure out what you were feeling when you're going through it. And it's such a dramatic change in, like, life and everything, like, overnight. There's so much to process. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My family members and friends would like literally ask me very politely. They'd be like, hey, can we like stop talking about The Bachelor? And I was like, this is my, yeah, this was my life for like several weeks and something I'm, you know, excited about.

Isn't it funny? Every day I was like apologizing. It's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I really just, I can't get out of it yet. I haven't exited the bubble. You know, that brings up an interesting point. Ben, I'd love to hear your thoughts and, you know, all the ladies. is it like the day after Christmas when it ends? You know how you have that letdown? Ben, like when you finish... Right after the presents have been opened. Did you get the blues a little bit?

Definitely. When it finished airing? I didn't hear the last part, but the first part, 100% you get the blues. I mean, it's such a weird thing. It's kind of that same thing

I was talking about not to go back, but it's like the finality of anything is bittersweet, right? when when anything ends even if it's bad you still in a sense like hold on to it or you you don't miss it maybe maybe you're happy it's gone but you're used to that being a constant in your life and so when that ends there's kind of this question of well what's next and I I conferred to that question I don't know about the women here and I would love to hear their thoughts I can't front of that question head on in a pretty hard way as soon as this was all done I remember the moment I remember the time that I said well now what's next? next. Do I go back to my desk job? Do I go back to life? Like I'm now, you know, for me, I was engaged. Do, and Lauren I had to have those conversations of what exactly does it look like now? Do we pursue, you know, a co-hosting career? Do we stay in LA? Do we get new jobs? Do we post on social media for a while to like let that kind of thing happen? And now, I mean, that's, that's really

where I, where my recent career started from was me saying, I don't know what's next, but I know it can't be anything that solely focused on me because that's just going to make me feel so weird down the road. But yeah, I definitely, no, to answer your question, 100% I got the blues. I wish I wouldn't have, but I don't know how you not, how you don't. Yeah, it's true. So I guess, like, that begs the question to you, girls. What is next? I don't know.

Yeah, great. I have no idea. I think we're just kind of enjoying, like, being able to travel and experience new things to do the experience. And also a lot of the girls got extremely close afterwards. So being able to go through that together has been really helpful. Becca, you're still part-time nannying. Yeah, I am. It's been really hard to juggle that.

My family, people always ask because travel and stuff, they're like, how do you do that? Well, it's nice because my nanny mom works from home. So, like, if I do really need days off, I can get them. And then they're, like, in Taiwan for two weeks right now. So I've got a couple weeks off to, like, travel and get almost. my, you know, Bachelor stuff together. Yeah. Kendall, or did you go back to work?

Yeah, actually, I was, I just got done production design. And so I'm still doing that. It's kind of funny because I work behind, I mean, I do work behind the camera. So it's a funny thing behind the camera again after being in front of the camera for so long. What kind of set designs have you done? Anything we would know? I mean, I've done, well, this one's like a Disney promo for a show. So basically just getting a bunch of props, chopping for props and putting little

that's together. I'm freelance, so literally I have done so many random things. Amazing. Both of you, is it been weird over the past month or so to get recognized in public? I want to know, like, your weirdest fan girl moments. We have one together. We have one together.

That was cool. Tell. Yeah. Well, you know, we both live in L.A. And I think that it's like people here don't really, like, even if they recognize you, it's kind of more of a double take and then they'll just, like, leave you alone. Like, I don't get approached that often in L.A. same um except except when we go out to bars and people get drunk i think they get they like lose their

inhibitions and then they'll come up and they'll want to chat for like 20 minutes uh which is kind of funny did you get any weird questions uh no they're all the same they're like yeah everyone kind of tells us like i was also listening it's the main thing that brings up and something tells us but i think new york was a lot more a lot of people came up in new york than l a yeah we were surprised by that we were both in new york a couple weeks ago and yeah we could like it was It was like literally every block there was someone who would stop us, which was kind of wild. I wasn't expecting that. East Coast goes hard.

But their TV. Yeah. But what was really cool is we were walking in, you know, it's always funny to see what kind of fans you have. Like there's the typical, like, you know, late teens, early 20s, like white girls who will be like, oh my God. But then it's funny. Like, we were walking in New York and this like 60-something year old, like black man stopped us. And he goes, Becca, Kendall.

and he was like so excited and we start talking to him it turns out he's the screenwriter of precious so awesome oh my gosh and he was a fan of us yeah I was like I see a fan of you your work is amazing yeah that was definitely an amazing moment

that was really cool and he was like can I get your girl's emails I was like oh my gosh totally it was cool that is so cool do you feel like after these seasons and because there's one thing I've noticed the women are all really good friends. And they kind of like

joined together and they travel together and they get along great. And not that the guys don't. I mean, I love the guys from The Bachelorette that I was with. I mean, you know, the Jared's of the world and the Boots and the Chris Rambert. Like, I love those guys. But we never hung out. I mean, I haven't seen Sean

Booth since, and he was my best friend on the show. Like, I haven't seen him since the finale of Caitlin's season. Oh, wow. We still talk. But do you think that's common? I mean, Why is it that the guys don't really group together, but the women seem to really, you know, continue to stay close and they travel together and they do all these things? I'm not sure.

I just feel like having that support is really helpful because I don't even know what to do with my mind sometimes afterwards. I don't know how to process everything or understand what's going on. I mean, having Becca and CNN being in LA just makes a lot easier for us to. Yeah, we're close. And then, girls make plans and guys don't. It's so true. That is such a good point. That's what it is.

You know what? You know what else, though? I think it's, I think a lot of times it can be really hard to make female friends because there's always this weird thing of like, oh, I love your shoes. Like, oh, yeah, where'd you get your top? And it's like, you don't know sometimes how to dive into, like, emotional relationships with other women. And I think being on The Bachelor, like, we were all so emotionally open with each other. And so it's not, it's like, sometimes it can, I don't know, if you're a woman and it's, it's almost like hanging out with women for the first time is like a first date. And it's like, there's kind of like a lot of pressure. A lot of pressure. A lot of nerves, actually. A lot of nerves. I get more nervous sometimes, like, hanging out with other women, like, who I want to be my friend than I do on, like, first dates. Yeah.

And you guys, you've already dated the same guy. So, like, if you've got past that, I think you can probably be friends forever. Right. But I think it's a great common. I think it's a very easy common ground to have being on the show. So now we just have that way of connecting. And then going from there, now we have all, you know, so many other things in common that we share.

Yeah. We've also seen so many, like, dimensions. of each other through the show. You know, we've seen each other when we are sobbing or when we are really happy for a date and just being happy for each other as well. I think that was really awesome having a group where when someone else

went on a date, sure, we felt a little weird but we were still excited for them and had that support. So something out of the show it was hard not to have that. What's happened with Core Crystal? Is she back in the mix or still on the out? Yeah, I'm friendly. I'm friendly.

I'm on good terms with her. I face-timed her shortly after the show because we were like pretty, we had some close moments on the show that weren't that you didn't see um but yeah i mean i i if i'm in san diego i'd hit her up and go get lunch or something yeah i mean she's really close with anybody though yeah well probably she does live in san diego but i mean she reached out to me after the show and you know i did a point to apologize and to you know have a good connection and i really appreciated that from her

i mean i don't talk to her too often but the talks we do have are you know really good and i think I think despite, yes, it was a crazy time, but, you know, it's hard not to feel like to go a little bit crazy in an environment that's so different, so unique. It's a learning and growing experience for everyone. Definitely, definitely. Isn't it just totally fab? It's so fab. So fab. It's, one would say fab and fit and fun.

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How fun. That is going to be incredible. I cannot wait. I mean, honestly, that is going to be really, really good. I can't wait to hear Jared's perspective. Kendall, just guide that poor guy through this, please, because he really does spend his dating. I'll do what I can't. TFTO.

I can't say I'm any of them. Hey, Kendall, thank you so much from an almost famous podcast. Of course, guys. Thanks for having me. Bye. Bye. I know we didn't talk to her about Paradise, but I think it just assumed. Kendall will be in Paradise.

Becca, you'll be in Paradise. We're all going to Paradise. You don't know us. Oh, I wish you were going. That'd be so funny. Wait. Wait, so who do we think, real quick, before moving these emails, you would know this, the two of you would know this better than I would.

Who is going to be in paradise? So, I mean, I can either confirm nor deny. Actually, nothing is confirmed. But if you were, yeah, nothing is confirmed. If you're guessing. Yeah. If you were guessing. Okay, so, yeah, me, I would say me and Kendall.

Cien. Do you have a boyfriend? I think Cian might have something going on. I can't. confirm or deny that. I think that too. So. Not with me. There's still many months. No, not with Ben. But about Crystal.

Speaking of Crystal. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure Crystal will be invited. And I'm, I'm sure she will accept as well. Tia. Oh, yeah. Tia's probably going to have a Paradise Engagement, I'm sure. Why do you keep saying this? It's because it's funny. I mean, just like, what past guys? Well, I don't know. No, I'm sure someone's from Becca season.

I just have a feeling she's going to happen. But like, who are we missing? I know that. We were talking. It would be funny if Peter came because you guys are all into Peter. Right. I think it would be funny if that would definitely stir up some drama because I think our whole cast of women were women who were expecting Peter. So that might be some drama. Although I bet there's going to be some great new hunks on Becca's season. So he might be old news by the time the red end of her season airs. I mean, all I can say guys and I can't give names, but I have done a date of one-on-one date for Becca for Cosmo. And then I did Access Hollywood and I interviewed five guys. I covered a one-on-one date. And so I've seen six guys And that good Okay you know what I'm calling it right now Because when there was the live

After the Final Rose thing She had some of the guys come on Yeah I swear and you might actually Maybe he was on the one on one day But I swear that guy Blake with the horse I'm calling it right now I think he's the one

I don't top three I'm saying top three Okay Fantasy sweets That's all I'm going to say Yeah Okay Which one do you want to start with Ben

let's go for an amazing question I'd love to hey as we're looking here I want to know is CN dating anybody from the bachelor world I don't think so no okay I thought that could be a juicy topic I'm sure I bet Caroline will be there in paradise too

that basically everyone who's like in a little like a girl squad or whatever they came up on the stage I'm sure most of those women will be there who else from her season Crystal hopefully some of the women that didn't get as much screen time would be kind of fun. There's always one or two.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let's start out with this one. Becca, you can answer it. Is Ari a jerk face is the title? Hold your comment, Becca. Hold your comment until the email is read.

It says, from Gabriel. Hey, guys, do you mind addressing Britt Robertson's comment on Ari about Ari on your podcast? Link below to the comment. She said, Okay, here's what he said. Who is that? I met R. Who is a cute little actor.

No, no, no. Oh, I thought it was. No, she's an actress. She was on a CW show and now she's on that We the People, that new show on ABC. Thank you for the Claire. Oh, she is cute. Very cute. And she's a good little, good actress.

I shouldn't say good little actress. Yeah, well, she's, yeah. Okay, anyway, she said, I met Ari before all of the stuff went down. I was very excited to meet him and was hoping he'd tell me who he chooses, but he was just kind of a jerk face. I'm not gonna lie. He acted like taking a picture with me

was the most painful thing he's ever done. And I was like, bro. Wait, what? Oh my God, this is great. No way. Bro, this is what you signed up for. You're here for us to take photos and make fun of you.

I love this girl. That's amazing. Okay. Hey, Becca, what do you think? Is he a B? Okay, just not for, is this something that seems like, because from everything I hear,

he's always been super kind to the media. Yeah, he seems, actually, I will say that I think he's a nice, I've said this before, I said, I think he's a nice guy, I don't think nice always is the equivalent of a good guy. However, that does seem a little out of character. I don't, I don't actually,

I wouldn't imagine he would be a jerk to people who are like fans of him or whatever, want to meet him. I'm actually kind of surprised by that. Maybe he was having an off day or something. I wouldn't say he's a, I think, I don't think he's a jerk because that's just somebody who's like impolite and just kind of like a general asshole. I wouldn't actually say that about him, honestly. I mean, I would just think, too, you signed up to be the bachelor or you signed up to be the bachelor. By the way, I did hear from an inside source that Becca as a bachelorette has been incredible to the media.

Oh, I'm sure. We wait, you know. Yeah. She is, I mean, she's just a wonderful. You wake up, you know, sometimes you have a date until 4 a.m. in the morning. This is common.

And then you have to wake up before anybody else does to do press at like 7, 7.7.30 days for the life of the bachelor and bachelor. I mean, it happens. And it's terrible. I'm not going to tell you it's not. It is, until you've done it, nobody understands how brutal is. But I hear, and this doesn't always happen,

that she has been absolutely incredible and has realized that it's not ideal for anybody and that there's people that, you know, are working their jobs to make sure this happens. So she's doing a great job with that. My point is, when you agree to be the bachelor or bachelor, you are agreeing to a tough schedule with a ton of media and a ton of people always around you. So, I mean, I hope that she's maybe just kind of saying this, you know, tongue-in-cheek without necessarily meaning it.

But that's a bit Robertson said, we'll have to see. When do you think we're going to stop talking about Ari, by the way? Is that soon? Hopefully when Becca's season starts airing, it'll be over. Although I wonder, I mean, I honestly wonder if her season's going to be peppered with various, like, R-E references, you know? Yeah, I don't think so. I think everybody's done.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Totally different. Exactly. Yes. I have an email for you. Okay, what's up? I'm excited for it.

It's called, it's entitled, What Bugs Ben? It's from Elizabeth. I love Ben. I really do. However, he is just always so politically correct and wants to please everyone. He never says anything negative. I understand that he has a public platform and it makes sense that he would never want to hurt anyone's feelings that might listen to the podcast.

And that is what makes him such a sweet person. It's a great quality to have. But as weird as it sounds, I just want to hear him complain about something. I feel like it would be refreshing to know what really grinds Ben's gears and what really pisses him off. I want him to rant about something. Complain about a Ben. day or traffic or loud chewing or people who cut in line at the grocery store or something i want to

hear ben bitch this is obviously written in a lighthearted way love you guys exo i've been elizabeth i love that that's a great email easton let's put two minutes on the clock and let ben just rant wait okay but let me let me enter into this of course here comes the politician it. So I do get, okay, my reaction to things are awful, always. They always have been, I react terribly. But what I've learned over time is most of the time when my react, like when I react something, I get frustrated or annoyed or whatever, I quickly realized that I was in the wrong and that it's not the right thing to do. And so when there's a little grace given to me from my friends or family or from Ashley or whatever, then if they're just like, okay, this has just been

being a terrible person that his reactions are awful then it usually plays out because I don't get that upset because I realize I'm most of the time in the wrong. So that being said, two minutes of the clock. Okay.

Ready? Set? Go. I am sick and tired of people promoting themselves. I think it is absolutely ridiculous. I think confidence is important. I think confidence is needed. But I am

tired of other people talking about themselves in the way that's self-promoting. Okay, so for example, you do something wrong in life, right? You make a mistake. You've heard of friendship. You've said an inappropriate thing in an inappropriate time. Why then do we feel the need to retweet to overcompensate for our mistake by sharing everybody else's, you know, praise of us? Okay.

Okay, so if I'm putting this up, this is just gets on my nerves every time, okay? So, for example, in today's world, there's a lot of controversies and things happening that really are affecting people deeply, okay? If you've made a mistake, if you've done something stupid, own it, learn from it, okay? Let it sit in, understand that we're all human, we all can make mistakes. But I'm sick and tired of people making these mistakes and then just retweeting all these really nice things that other people say about. I'm like, oh, I still support you. I still got your back. Oh, look at you.

You're so pretty and you're so nice. It drives me crazy because what it does is it. What about when we promote the podcast? Is that bad? Should I stop a proprone the podcast? No. No. Because we didn't make a mistake by doing it.

Not at all. You can promote the things you're doing. I think you should. I promote generous coffee. I promote the podcast. I promote the blog. I'm saying when you've made a mistake, when you really should be owning up to the fact that you've messed up.

You've hurt somebody. This is good. Like, own it. Take it in. Because in this generation that we're in, it's so easy to just move forward. Everybody forget so quickly. We can find a thousand people that are going to support us and compliment us and lift this up.

And that's absolutely ridiculous because for one in our lives, as a generation, as people, we need to take responsibility for something. Wow. If it is us standing up at the March for our lives, that's amazing. Stand up for something like that. stand up for something, but stop sitting down for every mistake you've made. Wow. Retweet.

Yes. Okay. Well, I've just come up with a new segment. It's called Ben Bitches. Wow. And we do two minutes a week. That was inspiring. I can do that.

I can bitch for two seconds easily. Yeah. But no, you know, I have realized this. And this is actually something I learned in my relationship with Lauren. That is probably the one of the biggest takeaways for me. um, is I, my reaction to things are terrible. I am in, in relationships or in friendships or in my working environment. I get so reactionary in a negative way because I get frustrated and when things aren't going my right. I am a terrible follower. I always have been. I, I, I know that

about myself. I don't like it about myself. But I am a terrible follower. And, and it's, I'm not okay with it. I need to figure it out. Um, when you say follower, you mean like if you're not in the leader position? Well, if things aren't, either, not necessarily in the leader position, but if things aren't going how I think they should be going, mostly. I can take a backseat, yeah, to a leader that is allowing things to progress in the way that I believe they should progress. I can take a backseat to that.

I can't take a back seat to somebody that isn't, like, even though they could be in the right. So I'm learning, I'm learning personally that one of my biggest mistakes is my reaction to think. But Ben, you own your mistakes. So everything that you just complained about, you'd, don't do. So that's pretty good. Yeah. I'm sure there's more things. I mean, Oh, I'll send you a nice little list. I can send you a list. Whoa. That's Amy. Amy. I think I think that's such a good, I think that was such a good point,

though, is like allowing yourself to be held accountable by your peers and by other people and accepting that you might not be right all the time. Yeah. Which I mean, it's difficult for me to do as well. What are we scared up? You know, I mean, if we're all really good friends here and we all really care about each other. We're going to allow each other some grace. Uh, we're going to allow each other from some forgiveness. Uh, we're not perfect and that's okay. And, and I really, I'm excited about this email. I need to move on here because Becca and Ashley and Amy, I think you can all answer this, um, and then we'll, we'll close out of this, this beautiful podcast that we've done the day. It says, he has more feelings than I do. So I made out with one of my friends at a

bar a little over six weeks ago. We're both seniors in college and have been friends since sophomore year. So I simply chalked it up to a fun, random night on the town. However, almost seven weeks later, we're still hooking up. We spend most of our free time together and have gone on a handful of dates, so I really feel that spark with him when I'm with him. Oh, but I really don't feel that spark with him. Oh, no. That spark with him when I'm with him. I enjoy our time together, but for me, it's more about companionship and having fun with a person I care a lot about. He has apparently developed deeper romantic feelings for me. Last week was spring break and I kissed someone one night and thought nothing of it.

Since exclusivity was never something we discussed, my question thus is rather simple. This is such a good question. I think it's important. So let's set up the contact here. They've been making out. They've been hooking up. There's been no DTRing, which for all of you out there that's to find a relationship. There's no relationship.

Is it wrong to continue a relationship? someone who may have stronger feelings than you do, even if you have made your own position abundantly clear. Most importantly, what in the world should I do things for your help? I have a lot of opinions on this. Me too. I would love to hear in Becca, and I personally, I am at a lot here. I have zero advice because I find myself in this situation in my life. I found myself in this position multiple times, and I don't know what to do. So, Becca, please lay it out there for it. Well, I think it's just, the bottom line is it's all about communication so you really need to you can't beat around the bush with this kind of thing if you're

hooking up with somebody and you enjoy being around them you want to keep spending time with them but you know they have deeper feelings you need to make it abundantly clear even if it sounds brutal you need to say like if it's true i am not interested in you romantically i do not see us progressing into a relationship in the future and that is not something that's going to change if that's too difficult for you to accept then please let me know and we can you know backpedal and stop hooking up whatever needs to happen for you but I think and at that point it's that other person's responsibility for them to either I mean if they want to keep like wrecking their heart and keep doing it that's kind of on them because you've been like you know I enjoy being around you I want to keep

hooking up with you but if this is too hard for you please let me know it's not going to happen between us the odds are the person is probably going to say it's okay let's just continue doing this but that's on them it is on them it is Ben I don't I don't know I mean no I mean I completely get what you're saying, Becca, but I think that's just setting it up for a harder breakup at some point. Like, if you don't know, at what point, okay, so this is where I'm at right now, at what point in life and dating? Because I'm trying to enter back into the dating pool. I've dated. I've gone on a date. At what point do you just, like, stop dating and you start asking yourself, like, the standard is, is this my wife or is my husband or not like, at what point does that question have to enter into your thought? Well, you know that that's what I went through.

I think that that's a two-month point. I start thinking about it pretty early on, to be honest. Like, I think about it, like, first or second date. I start considering it because, like, I don't want to waste my time. That is literally the worst part of your age ever. Ever. It's so hard because I'm so much older, and I don't ever have to think about that. You mean, you can just have fun for a while and you don't care.

Or for 30 years. Or for 50 years. It doesn't matter because I'm past the, like, like kid point and it doesn't have to be marriage. Oh, there's no pressure. I find the biggest challenge for you guys in your 20s, early 30s is this. Got to figure it out. Got to figure it out.

And that is so detrimental in relationship. I'm like in a hurry for nothing. Do you guys think that you can be with somebody for, do you think that when do you know? When do you know if that person's your long term or not? I think by Ben and my ages, I think you can determine it pretty early on. I'm really instinctual so for me it's like I know and I know right away and I know if I'm being honest with myself or not if I should be with that person. What if you're getting somebody that you like for a while? Are you still thinking at your age?

You're thinking is this going to be my husband or not? Yes. You do. Yeah, I do. I think about it a lot. Yeah. And I know in my heart and sometimes I don't listen to my heart. I know in my heart if it's something that could be serious with someone and could actually work out or not. But sometimes I go against it because I'm like, well, whatever. This person's fun. Yeah. Which isn't real. Isn't fair. That isn't fair. So, I mean, my point of view, I think, is just if they're not your person forever, you got to let them go. Sure. I don't think you should be hooking up for them for fun.

But also, like, you know, there's something to be said, too, about just, like, dating to date. I know. I mean, have fun. Life is short. I think this is how we sum up all of this. And I think Becca said it best, what a crazy podcast. This is what we get for having the off season. It bounced all around.

But when it comes to this. And this is how we like to some of these podcasts, because there is some real advice here that everybody's given. Communication is key. Start talking this through. If you're struggling in relationship or you're struggling with a breakup or if you're struggling in life in general, talk to somebody, communicate with somebody. Find a trusted friend. Find a confident at some level. Go to counseling. I've been to counseling. We need counseling. More counselors, the better. But talk to somebody. Like, it's totally okay. I feel like to go up to your partner. and say, I am struggling with this, I am frustrated with this, either, and if they're not willing to look at you and say, hey, I either want to live with you through this, walk with you through this, whatever, if they're willing to say, nah, sorry, like, you can't be struggling with anything. Like, that's not a part you need, partner any of us need anyway. So just talk it through with your partners. Communicate. It's important. Just like we communicated today. We talked about

a lot of things. It was very good. Thank you, guys. For coming into this podcast. You're hilarious, as always. I want to see you. I think you're just going to explode in this life post-Bachelor. Thanks. And before we go, before we go, if you're listening to this and getting into your sleep number bed. I mean, if you have a great partner and you want to sleep with them in your sleep number bed, what's also about sleep a number is that you can actually set each side of the bed to a different level of comfiness.

You know, like if one likes it hard. That's what she, that's what she says. and the other one likes it soft she didn't say that then you can set your bed to those types Ben you should probably take over for me what is your sleep number I always forget

oh Ashley my sleep number is 88 I just I like it pretty hard did you know decluttering your bedroom can also help you feel more relaxed so you sleep more restfully perhaps it's also time to consider a fresh new mattress I'm telling you

It is unbelievable the people that I know that sleep on these old worn-out mattresses. They're back-ter. It's yellow from oil stains. Ew. It's disgusting. What? Oil steaks? Yeah, that's a thing.

Like car oil. Yeah, that's a thing. They keep their mattresses too long. Keep their mattresses. Oh, that's true. Yeah, that's true. Way too long. And there's amazing mattresses out there.

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I'm about to. Ashley and Vincent. Yeah, what do we tell them? Because I'm about to go buy my second sleep number bed. I have one and now I need one. You're going to get for a guest room? Yep. What, Amy?

You're going to pamper your guest. Well, and I found out they make them in full size. So if you don't have, if your room isn't big enough for a queen, you can fit the full size. So what do I do when I go to the store? What do I tell them? that Ben and Ashley sent you your pals over at Iheart Oh my goodness

I guess on this one Becca sent you also right I mean we love Becca yeah Oh yeah say Becca saying yeah When do I get my sleep number bed What the heck? Are you sleeping on an oily mattress right now? No I got my mattress off Amazon It was cheap

It was before I got almost famous And on that notes I have been Ashley Becca You've been Becca What I've been Becca? Yes. Oh, I don't know how this goes.

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