The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - S5 #5 Bachelor Parties

Episode Date: April 24, 2018

Ben and Ashley check in with a member of Bachelor Nation that’s getting married THIS WEEK! Then it’s time for “Who The Heck Are You?”, with Bachelor couple Chris and Peyton Lambton. Plus, Derek Peth hops on the line for an update on his relationship with Taylor. And Jared Haibon crashes the studio to reveal what happened to him on Bachelor in Paradise Australia. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast with IHartRadio. Hey, everybody, I'm Ben. I'm Ashley. And I'm currently sitting in Indiana watching at rain. This is one of the most peaceful spring days I have been a part of. I feel very relaxed right now. That's so nice. Ben, when are you ever home?

Are you ever home anymore? Do you have a home? Should you be even paying rent? I don't pay rent, say, I own the house. you. Fancy man. Yeah, a whole lot right now. We're on a little speaking tour for generous currently, and so I hit up this week I was in St. Louis. It just sounded like you were on helium.

Something really weird just happened. It was almost as if somebody took the phone away from you and started talking for you. It was bananas. and we're going to keep it in because it was entertaining. I don't know what happened. If it happens, you can let me know, but that could be a lot of fun. So I'm on the back end of a speaking tour. So I started in St. Louis.

I visited Missouri University, met some huge fans of the podcast. Cool. Huge fans of Ashley. I think you actually saw a couple of their tweets. Yes, I did. Like, hey, make sure you tell Ashley that she is the heart and soul of this podcast and you're just along for the ride. And I said, thanks for that.

And then I went. went to Nashville and spoke at Belmont University, drove up to Indianapolis, and spoke at the Ronald McDonald's house. What are you speaking about? You went on a generous coffee door. Yeah. So what we're speaking about is generous coffee and how for-purpose, for-profit business can actually be the funding engine to nonprofits and how that looks from a business standpoint. And then also how people can get involved in any cause that is actually doing good in the world. And so we're trying to push people to take that step out and actually get involved in something. And that's what we're speaking about.

Tonight is my last speaking engagement. And then I'm back to Denver for a youth conference for two days. And then I'm out to see you all in L.A. And I'll be in studio in just two weeks. I'm pumped. And I won't be. Why does it have to work like that? Ben, I do want to go back to, like, you paying a mortgage and rent and blah, blah, blah.

I got an apartment last week. I got a new apartment. I needed more space. And I got the craziest deal on it. It's just like mind-blowing. And I'm really concerned. Well, first I was concerned that somebody died in it. And I paid $11 for this website called Died-in-house.

Easton's actually familiar with this. Did you see my tweet? You've heard it, but you've done it before? Don't pause here. Keep going. Keep going. Okay, okay. Well, I just want to let you know.

Eason is not. Too good to be true. Dyson is not on the mic right now, but he has also found a house that was too good to be true and has used Died in House before. This is not an ad for Died in House, but the more and more I told people about this deal that I got, the more people are like, huh? And then they're like, are you sure nobody died in your house? I was like, I think they have to tell you. But then I looked up the law and the law in California is that you don't have to, you have to tell them if somebody died in the house as recently as three years. But if it's before that, then if you ask, they have to tell you,

but they don't have to voluntarily tell you. Yeah. So I was like, okay, well, I better go use this $11 for Died-in-house. Nobody died in it. Still think it must be haunted, though. Like, there's kind of be like a poltergeist in it. Anyway. This is amazing.

No, were you, like, anxious when you got the results? I mean, were you typing your address in, waiting to see if, like, there was a recent death. Okay. And then my second question, because the house I live in Colorado, somebody did die in it. No. Yeah. Did you get an amazing deal? No big deal. No, I'm, no, I honestly, I don't, well, nowadays they did. The housing market in Denver is just incredible for everybody. But it doesn't freak me out that much. Would it have, like, cause you to turn away if somebody were to pass away in your home? I mean, it's a great question. My sister, who is going to be living in one of the,

the bedrooms, she was hoping it was haunted because that's like her whole life is revolved around murder mystery shows and she loves ghosts. Like she's, all she wants in a man is somebody who will go ghost hunting with her. So it was her dream to have somebody die in the house. Um, but no, I was terrified. And when I was watching it load, because it took like 30 seconds for it to really research. Um, I was freaking out. I would have had to, what if I was supposed to do? Call the realtor and be like, so just use. died inhouse.com found out there or somebody who died in the house

don't want it anymore? I don't know. It would have been the thought that I didn't really fully think through it. Why would you not want it, though? That's my, people come over to my house. Just a little back through here. People come over to my house.

I tell them the story because my house is built in 1904. There's a family that lived there for 50 years. Yeah, the family that lived there for 50 years, the mom and dad actually both passed away in my, in my house. This was told me by the neighbors who have also lived there for a while. And it doesn't freak me out. It's actually for me kind of like sweet that somebody cared for that house for so long consistently. Why would you have not wanted to still be in the house? That is so Ben Higgins of you. Do you guys want to know a little sort of weird thing I did?

Sure. I went in Nicole Brown Simpson's house. For fun? It was for sale. It's in my neighborhood. Oh, you just wanted to look. So I went in to look and they didn't tell you because it had enough owners in between. There's been enough owners in between. Yeah, I think there's been a few. And it's been so many years that a lot of people at the open house, this was years ago, didn't know that they were in the house. I just knew because I knew where it was. Yeah, like, I don't think I would know just because on the news and all the stories about it. If I saw the house, I wouldn't know that was the house. Maybe if I saw the backyard, the patio area, no, I wouldn't. But if I was in Westwood, they changed it. Oh, they did. Oh, okay. And it's Brentwood. Okay, sorry. My apologies. But

I didn't feel her presence or anything, but I wish I did. Well, we could talk about this forever, Ben. We have so many guests, but now this is such an interesting topic. I only have one more question for you. Do you ever feel the spirits? Like in my life, yes,

I feel the Holy Spirit often in my life, actually. Again, so Ben Higgins of you. Do you feel the spirits of the people who die in your house? No, but I definitely believe in ghosts. 100% I believe in ghosts. My dad, and real quick, Just the closest set, but my dad is somebody that does not over-dramatized situations, and he swears to me that when he was, he used to open up hotels for a living, and he's open up hotel, he's the only one in the hotel, and it was built on an old graveyard, and they had to kind of move, I don't know how that works, but they supposedly had to move some of the, the gravestones and the body. Oh, my God.

The ghost can't deal with that. And he was walking up, no, and he was walking up the stairs one night, and a ghost or a big white cloud that was super cold. rushed through him and his buddy that were walking up the stairs and they both fell to the ground. Wow. So something's going on in this world that we can't see. So we all might want to watch out where I'm telling you right now, this is such a good topic, Ashley.

If any of our listeners out there believe in ghosts, or I want to also know if you would move out of your house because you found out somebody died in it, email us at Ben and Ashley iHeartMedia.com. I want to hear this. I think we're going to get some crazy stories out there. And we're also going to get some crazy stories today, some really awesome stories from some of our guests. We want to start out this podcast with interviewing one of Bachelors' nation's most beloved participant. One that everybody has wanted to find love for for a long time.

She has found love, and that is Penley, Malson. Hi, you guys. Hello, beautiful, bursting, joyful bubble. That was the weirdest thing that's ever come out of my mouth. you forever. I know, but that's how I feel about you. You're bursting, beautiful bubble of joy. Oh, thank you. I've been loving listening to your guys' podcast. Aw, thanks. Thank you for putting good stuff out there. I love hearing both of you guys coming to life and just being you, like, through and through. So that's been fun for me to listen and especially kind of still be a part of the back of the world in that way.

I remember in Paradise, my first season and your only season, when I left, you gave me the best advice. You were like, take this as, what did you call it? A whimsical what? Whimsical, that's right. What did I say? Oh, my goodness, but it was something about, I was very into, there was a phrase that I had at that time.

And it was so good. And what it meant was that like each person, each guy you meet and are interested in, you discover a part of that person that you'd like to find in someone else who has like everything that you want. But like each person you discover something. And then one day, that'll help you find the person who has all of these traits. I was just such a good term, whimsical something. But anyway, does your fiancé Taylor Leopold have all of that? Did you find that that's actually come to fruition? Absolutely. In fact, it was on our first date that I felt really creeped out.

almost because I was, like, sitting there just enjoying him and falling for him in that moment and then going, did he read my prayer journal or something because he's like checking off these boxes of things, these characteristics that I've prayed for. So, yeah, he is dreamy and fabulous and, yeah, he marks all of the boxes and more. And that's the thing, Ash, you'll find, I don't know what your dating life is right now, but I truly, truly believe for everyone, like, that you're just going to, God's going to give you even more than you could have ever imagined. You might think, ah, this is it.

And then, and then God just goes, no, I have something a little bit even more for you. So, anyway, that's for all the hope, all those people out there that need a little extra hope in this season of life that they might be in. Tell us a little bit the backstory of how you and Taylor have gotten together. You know, how did you date? How did you court? And then you haven't been engaged that long by, you know, a sidal sense, correct? So just kind of walk everybody through your journey with Taylor.

Perfect. So we met in January 2016, and it was through a mutual friend. And I was actually really not in being set up. and I was kind of just over it. And I don't know how I expected to meet somebody because I was, like, shutting things down. But I was just in a space, but this mutual friend, I could trust him. The boys were in Bible study together, and that was important to me. And they went to the same church and stuff.

So I let the setup happen, and he just pursued. And it was very quick that he just pursued me and did. stopped so quickly turned into an official relationship and then we've always we've dated with the intention of getting married so it's kind of funny as people are like well your engagement's so short but from the very beginning we've had this intention and our our mindset has been on that and so that's kind of I think it's special and then we got engaged this January and we're getting married this weekend. So pulled a wedding together in like four months,

which is very doable. So actually one thing I don't get is long and easy. That's so intival. Thank you for plugging the I don't get a podcast. But also you've brought up a topic that Ben and I have been discussing on this podcast, which is

how long should it be and shouldn't engagement only be the period of time where wedding planning happens. And I think you just answered your personal opinion is for it to just be the wedding planning process. Yeah. So I think some people wait until they kind of give their relationship another trial through engagement. But that's a lot of pressure. Taylor and I actually did like a premarital course through our church. And I highly recommend that for anybody, whether or not you

you're involved at a church or whatever, but to just do like a premarital something before you even get engaged because once you get that engagement process, and it's a little harder in bachelor world, but kind of getting to know somebody and then getting engaged and then getting married, but if you have that opportunity to kind of explore the harder questions before you have that ring on your finger, I think it allows for that pressure to be put to aside because you haven't officially announced, like, hey, we're getting married. So it gives you some time to really, really put those tools to work and also really explore the deep stuff. And yeah, so, yeah, I think that wedding planning or engagement time is wedding planning,

although it's also a very, very special season, so make it what you want. But I think that the question should be answered by then, if you know what I mean. Oh, totally. What's so interesting is that I feel like you're like a girl who maybe hasn't been on TV for like three years, but people were so excited to see that ring on your finger because, well, we've seen you on, you know, jig pal vaca season, Bachelor Pad, and then Bachelor in Paradise. And we've just followed your journey. And you're such a rootable character. And I think we all thought it was just the cute. All your pictures in the past two years with Taylor have been the

cutest. And then finally, I was like, that's it. Like every time I would pass by your pictures, I'd be like, when is the picture with the ring? And then there it was. It was very exciting. Yeah. Thanks, Ashley. No, it's been really special that people have been so, I actually was shocked as like, wow, man, I must have been really desperate or something for all this people. I'm so excited for the day to come. But, you know, it's been my love story has been a journey. And a lot of it didn't go from where back before I was on The Bachelor didn't go the way that I wanted it to go. But I, I wanted it to go. But. I just think that it's something special to get to share, and I'm so grateful that so many people want to know about it because it's a redeeming story. And I think that there's a lot of brokenness and heartache and stuff and just, like, in all those moments of desperation,

I've asked them of just being able to believe in something greater than you could even imagine. So thank you for watching and being a part of the journey and looking for that ring. You mentioned there, Tenley, we have a lot of listeners on this podcast that are single women from all ages and single men from all ages. And they ride into us a lot kind of with their relationship stories and looking for advice. You just mentioned the word there that I think really stands up to me is that desperation, that a lot of people out there are feeling and they're feeling anxious and they're asking themselves and they're asking God the question, and why not me or is there anybody out there for me?

And Tinley, I know you spoke just there about your feeling desperate at times or you wondering if anybody's out there for you. Do you have any advice for those single people out there of all ages, just kind of waiting, wondering, am I ever going to meet my partner? Oh, so much advice or not necessarily advice, but thoughts on that. It could take a little while, but I think it's the greatest thing. So it was after, you know, I think it was kind of after we all met. Well, I'd known Ashley before, but after I'd met you, Ben, like, there was one day, and I was so excited.

I might have even shared this with you back in the day, but I was on a run, and all of a sudden it was like this moment, like, just came over me where I realized my epic love story has already been written. Well, I can't I just trust in that and enjoy today and, like, just pouring, like, the good stuff into my life, building my friendships, my relationships, my community, myself, like, really knowing who I am so that the day that somebody walks into my life, it will just, it will be effortless and it will be so good. So that's one of my things that helped me finally rest in that desperate, in those desperate moments. I guess, of those tears and that pain of like, who's going to love me or is there anybody out there for me or like, what's wrong with me even, you know, all these different thoughts and then just, but it's so much more worth it than trying and, you know, there's, everybody takes different approaches to dating and whatever and I'm not against any of them, but for me, it was finally just resting and letting go and trusting and kind of that mindset of my epic love

story is already written so I can just chill you know that's interesting because when I was at UCLA last week on their sex panel somebody was like how does um is there anything that you remind yourself of to make you feel better about whether it be waiting or just like finding that perfect relationship and I simply said yeah there's that expression just trust God's time in your life and it really does help it does and I think that's a hard hard one to be like tanned for some people and that's totally okay but just to be able to like I don't think that means sit on your couch and wait for something to knock on your door we have to be proactive about putting ourselves in places where we want to meet people that we like to be around or you know or connecting

with friends or going ahead and saying okay fine I'll let that set up happen you know that stuff but um yeah I like that you tell me I'm telling you uh I've gotten to know you personally you are a a light in this world. I don't think that's a secret to anybody. You do spread the joy and you do spread love. And everybody is so excited for this wedding. And I want to talk about the wedding for a second because, you know, we've talked about your love story.

We've talked about the ups and downs of it. But now it's time to celebrate because you are in love and you are getting married this week. Is there any bachelor friends of yours through season 14 of the Bachelor and Bachelor Pett 2010 and Bachelor in Paradise 2015? I mean, is there anybody you have met along the way that will be at this wedding? Oh, my goodness. It kind of breaks my heart that question.

But first of all, then, you are such a light, too. So keep doing your thing. You're doing an amazing job just seeing you. So thank you for that. But for the wedding, we are having a really small wedding, very intimate. So there's even family members who aren't coming. So it was really hard because there was this list of Bachelor. friends and people that would have been really fun to be able to use the opportunity of

this celebration to pull people together that I haven't seen in a long while. But as we were deciding on that headcount, it just came down to the friends and family that are super immediate to us in the way of being daily affecting, weekly affecting our lives and holding us accountable, this awesome commitment that we're making to each other. And so it's going to be small and intimate. And yeah, but I'm so sad that there are certain people that won't be there because it would have been a great opportunity to pull it together. Small and intimate is nice, too.

Do you have something old, something blue, something borrowed, something new? Working on that. So my grandmas up in Oregon actually aren't coming down to the wedding. they um both of them their their husbands can't travel and um it's just better for them to stay up there with them so my both of them are remarried but my past my late grandpas um uh i have some hankies but i'll i'll have of theirs and kind of in a reflection of my grandma's so those will be like the old um the borrowed still working on that um and the new is probably um everything else on me and blue um i gotta work on that blue so

what color of his eyes blue no they're green no that's never mind yeah well he doesn't know about this and i don't think to listen to the podcast but um on at a rehearsal he'll find out that our i guess something borrowed is um his late grandfather's ring is the one that will use for the ceremony because we waited a little while on getting his forever ring, true story. And so that's not going to be here, but I tracked down his late grandfather's ring and that's what he'll wear for the wedding. That's so meaningful. I love that.

So I guess we just have to work on the blue, you know, to be underwear, I suppose. All right. Well, Tenley, the next time we talk to you, are you going to be Tenley-Leopold? I will be. I don't know if I'll be changing that up on my Instagram. I don't know like the whole thing on that, but I am so embracing being a Leopold. They're an awesome family. And isn't that a good name? It's a very nice name. Tenly Leopold sounds so cute. Tenly, thank you so much for coming on. I can't believe we haven't had you an epic member of the Bachelor family on before. But congratulations. We wish the best for you too. Thanks guys so much So good to hear both of your voice as well I hear them all the time But so good to chat back with you

As I sit in my car Usually trying to communicate with you guys Thank you guys See you time link Bye If I were to look at Penley's fiancé's name Taylor Leopold

Like I would just assume that he's good looking Yeah yeah totally That name alone looks good looking doesn't it It does it it so does It sounds very prince-like. Well, Tenley's getting married, and if you're going to any weddings this wedding season, or if you are going to be a bridesmaid or you're a bride looking for bridesmaid's dresses, I actually have a great website you should check out.

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And I'm looking at a picture right now. They are one handsome couple. Hey, but because this is almost famous podcast and we have a tradition to keep, this is the Who the heck are you segment with Peyton and Chris Landon? Peyton and Chrissy out there. Hi. Hi. You know, last week I said, I was like from Allie season, I don't know who that is.

And then I saw your picture and I was like, the runner up. I know him. Well, thank you. Yeah. Well, you guys didn't meet on the show, but you both happened to have been on the show. Tell us about how you met. Well, after the season, because I got second place, I don't like to say, Robert, second place. They were trying to get me to be a bachelor, and I was flown down to an event in North Carolina with Chris Harrison,

and I got to bring a friend from the show with me, and he had been on Bachelor pad with Peyton, and he was not really great at geography because he was like, oh, yeah, Peyton lives right nearby, and he thought Dallas was near North Carolina, which is not. I'm originally. So he was like, oh, maybe she's like right down the road, which it was funny because I happened to be in North Carolina that weekend for my mom's birthday. So Jesse Beck texted me, said, hey, I'm with my boy, Chris. Why don't you come hang out? I was like, actually, I'm really close by. So I went to hang out for the night. And nine months later, we were engaged. No way. Nine months. That's fast. And Jesse Beck, by the way, another Bachelor alum. Look at that. Look how the world works. It's just like a big friend circle. You basically just met through four. friends, and you both all happened to be on TV? No, it was crazy because even when I was on Bachelorpad with Jesse, he was like, always talking about Chris. He was his boy, and Jesse and I got to be such good friends.

And he was like, you've got to meet him, but not in a like hookup kind of way. We're friends and we're friends. So let's all be friends. Peyton, you were on Andy Baldwin season, Bachelor 10. And Chris. Oh my gosh, it seems like the dinosaur ages at this point. Yeah, there was a couple years in between, right? but you guys, I guess you, Peyton, were re-emerged because of Bachelor Pad.

Yeah, I got this totally random phone call one day. I thought that that was all in my past. I was just living my life in Dallas, working as normal. And then they called him, so we're doing this spinoff show. Do you want to do it? And, you know, I rarely say no to opportunities. And I said, what the heck? Let's do it.

So it was fun. And if you hadn't done it, then you wouldn't have met Jesse. And then maybe you wouldn't have met Chris. Isn't it crazy how the universe works? So crazy. So, and then the both of you now, I mean, the Bachelor nation has been awesome. The Bachelor shows obviously brought you two together at some level. But you move this into also participating on HGV hosting Going Yards.

How did that work? Like, how did you guys transition from engagement to marriage to then hosting your own show on HGV? Yeah, man, it's pretty amazing because I can always tell people. I'm like, you know, being on The Bachelor, that led me to finding my wife. getting a TV show, which, you know, is completely amazing to me. But I was a landscaper beforehand, and when I was on the show, you know, they tell you your name and your occupation, and people issued TV saw that I was a landscaper, and they had me come in for an interview, and it went well.

They sent a camera crew up here to do a little test shoot, and Peyton was conveniently here that day, and, you know, her southern... I made myself available. She's out there talking And next thing you know They gave us a show So we started with going yard And then I took over yard crashers

And now my new show Start airing next week Called Lawn and Order So I've Parlayed it into quite a few years Of working on HGTV Which is pretty amazing Does everybody in HGTV

Have a zillion shows like you? Yeah It's funny Because like after a couple years They'll rebrand the show And name it something different But it's kind of like Usually it's a very similar concept

So, you know, going yard, we did all different parts of the yard. Yard crashers, I ran around a Lowe's and just randomly found somebody and redid their yard for free. And now on an order, we kind of worked on curb appeal of houses, mostly people trying to sell their house. So we go in, revamp the whole front yard, and then they can sell the house for actually a bit more than when we first started. You've also done Blog Cabin, Dream Home and Smart Home. I got to know, what is the coolest thing in home innovation today? You know what? It's pretty simple, but I love that cueless entry. So our house, I mean, I even have their house now.

So that way, you know, if I go for a run or if we go down to the beach, I don't have to bring my keys with me or hide them in the yard someplace. You know, I can just come back to my house and, you know, either punch in a code or like if you have a smart watch, you can hook it up to the door and you just walk right in and it unlocks automatically. And to me, that's the best thing. So I don't have to worry about losing my keys or where's the house key. You don't ever need them ever again.

That is so cool. you know what also would be cool if you could talk to your house be like hey house can you open the door that's next and it's insane what technology can do these days that's really cool i always think about smart house the disney channel original movie i mean that would that'll stay with me forever well i just need uh what's her name peggy from uh married with children to always just run my house oh actually actually come on ben you know how i just want to let you know that mark and Easton and all three of them in this room all nodded when I talked about Smart House. Of course it is.

It's trying to make you feel good. No, no. They also want the same thing and they will remember the movie forever. I like the titles of the HGTV shows. Did you say it was called Lawn and Order? Law and Order and Blog Cabin. That's so cute. It's hard to forget.

It's hard to forget. I mean, lawn and order, obviously. Yeah. So are you both still hosting then? Um, I had to take a little hiatus because we had a baby, um, but we, a pilot for a show, uh, we teamed up with Wayfair and it was more of a design show, because I'm an interior designer. And, um, so we did a pilot for that and we're waiting, hopefully fingers crossed that, uh, that says Home United. So we're hoping that that will move forward. So we were just talking early in the podcast. Ashley, I have two questions for you all. Let's start with this. Uh, I, I own my own home. Uh, uh, I own my own home. Uh, uh, Ashley was telling me that I was almost bragging about it early in the podcast, and I was. But I need a ton of work on my house. I have a small little house in Denver, Colorado.

Would you ever want to come help me with my yard? Oh, man, that'd be so much fun. Kidding me? I mean, I think we can pull something off. I need your help more than you know. I have a ton of things. My yard is a blank slate. I put a ton of work into just clearing out.

So Chris and Peyton, once this podcast is done, we've got to figure out a way to get you all out, Denver, Colorado to help me renovate my beautiful lawn that right now does not look great. Yeah, Chris, you can go to Denver and hang with Ben as you do the lawn. And then Peyton, if you want to come and decorate my new apartment, this would be just the perfect girls and guys weekend. Yeah, let's do it. Okay, yes. Time out, time out. I read something. Is someone die in your apartment or something? We were just talking about that earlier. I know. I saw, did you favor that sweet? I don't want her going and dealing with people's spirits or something, okay?

No, no, I looked it up. It was all clear. No one died in house. We, uh, but okay, that's the question. My second follow-up question is, if somebody were to pass away in your house from whatever reason, Chris and Peyton, what are your thoughts on that? Would it cause you to move out? No, so when my parents first bought their house, my mom bought some sage from like a Native American store. And what you do is you burn it in all the windows in the corners of the house to get rid of evil spirits. So my- Something Ashley were to do. I've done it. Go ahead.

My best friend, one time she was here, she brought a lot of negativity, like a lot. And then it even resulted in her being hospitalized at Cedarside. I like she just brought a whole ton of dark clouds to my apartment so yeah I went to the the spiritual store and I staged and I did it in the proper manner because I didn't want my my then new apartment to be tainted. Sounds like she needs an exorcism more than a bit. Yeah so this is I mean I'm really interested now because you were one of the the few couples from this world to really meet some from some avenue during the Bachelor, parlay it into a really great career on television,

but I'm sure that wasn't your intent when you all got together. I know that to be the case. How does The Bachelor affect you two still today? I mean, the Bachelor has been pretty amazing for both of us, I think. I mean, it led to not only us getting together in the TV show, but I mean, even to this day, you know, I was on, what, like eight years ago now? Like a decade ago. And, you know, I'll be on a flight and people walk up and like, hey, you're the kid from the Bachelorette, aren't you?

And, you know, even eight years later to still be recognized from that show, kind of just tells you the impact. And you too obviously know that firsthand, the impact of that show, like how many millions people watch every week and, you know, watch every single season. And once they know you're on there, they just, you know, have like so many questions for you about it. But, you know, just the impact of that show on a day-to-day basis, people just always recognize. They're so supportive, too. People are just nice, and they love to see the success that's come from the show. They love to see our family and different things that we've done professionally. And it's nice.

It's nice to have that support. Who are you still in touch with today? Chris has, like, a text chain with, like, all the guys from his season. You still have a text chain? That's amazing. So, oddly enough, when we got married, we got married, like, a year and a half after we met. And Roberto, who I lost to, who was the first place, he was actually at our wedding. We had probably about four or five guys from my season at the wedding.

And, you know, we still meet up every couple of years. And like I said, like the text chain, like we, there's 15 guys on them, I think, 12 or 15 guys from my season. It's crazy. And we text every week, more than. They're now, like, moving on to everybody's announcing that they're having kids. And so it's really neat to see, you know, the evolution of their friendship and their families and relationships. And it's cool. But I don't keep in touch really with that many girls from my season.

Everybody kind of fell off the map. But I do still talk to Tenley and Natalie Getz and some of the girls from Bachelor Pad. Oh, we had Tenley on just earlier. Oh, just love her. I'm so excited. She's getting married. Me too. It's such a fairy tale for her.

Yes, it is. all right guys well we appreciate you coming on this is so this has been so cool and i can't wait to plan our decorating weekends hey we're on it and ben hey before you leave i'm coming to color and believe me i'll make that front yard the best in the block guarantee i was gonna say we got to set that up we're going to do it and then we're going to talk about it again on the podcast i need your help i'm not joking about this is a good opportunity for us to get together hang out, mess around in the yard for a couple days, make this house look beautiful.

But also, before you go, I need you both to fill all of our listeners in once again on the upcoming show. Well, so my new show comes on May 12th on the DIY network at 8 p.m. Law and in order, so tune in. Hard name to forget. And I appreciate everyone watching. Awesome. Hey, thank you.

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But it doesn't mean that there isn't a lack of love for this couple. We have Derek Kate on the line. He is dating Taylor. They met in Bachelor in Paradise. Derek, are you out there? They're not just dating, Ben. They're engaged. Okay. Sorry, what's the difference? Oh, apparently a lot. We were just talking about the engagement. being a wedding planning process. Derek, hello. Derek, this just in. Derek is in the bathroom. So in other Bachelor news, did you know that Channing Tatum hung out with Ari yesterday at some race car fest? Okay, so here's my question. Does that make Channing Tatum less cool or does that make Ari more cool?

I mean, I thought the same thing. It definitely makes Channing less cool. and Ari more cool. I mean, I'm sure that you know how like all the headlines like Channing Tatum hangs out with Ari Lined. They're not hanging out. They pose for a picture together. Oh, they did. They hung out. And Channing cut a video saying hi to Lauren.

No. They hung out, I think. Whoa. I mean, maybe for only three minutes, but still. I mean, that's pretty, that's a big deal. Canning Tatum, yesterday when this came out, I have an episode of from lip sync battle that will be coming out in next couple weeks. So I, I googled Channing Tatum's name because as soon as I hear his name, what it reminds me of is his lip sync

battle that he participated with his former wife, right? They're getting ex-wife. They're getting a divorce. But that's how I know Channing Tatum. I also know him as America's true heart drop. I mean, he has to be the most eligible background on the market now, right? I would say so. He's pretty high up. I would say he's really high up there. It's like him and Chris Pratt now. What about Josh DeMell? He's up there too. Oh, Josh Jamel, too.

He has a girlfriend now. But I think Chris Pratt and Jane Tateham are a little bit higher. I'm actually, I'm wondering if the reaction will be similar to when I hang out with Ari at the Indy 500 this year. I'm going to the Indy 500. And when I meet Ari, I wonder if they'll have me do a video for Lauren. And I wonder if the head, tabloids and headlines will be like, Ben Higginson and Ari Lion Dyke, hang out. Hey, Ben, what don't you go to? What aren't you going to, sporting related?

I've never been to the Super Bowl. Okay, well, that's, I've been to the Super Bowl. I've been to two. I've been to two. Is Derek back from the bathroom? He's been gone. No, he's here. Oh, he's here.

Oh, he's back. He's back. Yay. Hey. I'm sure you have. That's what I say, too, when I've said a little break. Have you ever been on a call before and somebody, like, forgets to put it on mute and they do that?

Oh, you took it. your phone into the bathroom? Oh, yeah. Oh, no. That's never happened to us before. But is that something you would think of when you were on The Bachelor and you were miced up when you went, when you went to the bathroom? Oh, totally. Yeah. I had, I had a mic situation once where it fell into that area. The toilet? No, no. Like, into my underwear. And so I had to, it was a, it was a job in my Oh. Gee, how does that even... Derek, enough of the bathroom talk.

We're glad you're back. You made us wait about 15 minutes for you, so I hope you feel better. We're really here to talk about your relationship with Taylor. We're just discussing, preparing for this interview. And I know Ashth is a thousand questions for you. But what I noticed is the two of you are very cute on Instagram, and this is something that's always been interesting to me.

How often and how many times do you have to post for these pictures that you're posting? So I have a whole, I started doing a, I was going to do a series of them, but I got yelled out for it. So there's like a whole probably 100 pictures that I have on my phone where Taylor's like smiling and looking cute and I'm just eye-rolling because I've had enough of it. so it's funny you know it's like

selfie is such a big thing I don't know if you guys have noticed I post on Instagram like once a week I am not an Instagram person so how often do you get the John Krasinski thing especially now that he's having quite the high with a quiet place

which is quite a quiet standing well you guys know I've leaned into it I think everybody I probably have a 5,000 DMs saying, oh my God, did you know that you look like John Kaczynski? It's becoming more and more of a compliment. Yeah, exactly.

I'll take it all day. Especially when it comes to the office. I mean, everybody loves his character. So, God forbid, I'd be, you know, connected to Dwight. I'd rather be Jim. That's good. That's good. Well, people say I look like Jim Carrey, so I think you're winning.

What? Wait, did you guys? I get it. you see Jim Carrey in yourself of Vinny from my season when he like he looked like Jim Carrey from Dumb and Dumber people like morphed their faces together

when he was on the bathroom No I've never seen that Oh that's when he used to have the Caesar cut Yep exactly Yeah okay now I can see it with that haircut Well Derek Your girlfriend, your fiancé She is the queen of emotional intelligence

how much do you make fun of her for that? And how much does she psychoanalyze you at home? I think she needs to read a book. I think she needs to write her own book on emotional intelligence. I don't know why she's not leveraging that. No, sometimes I have to say, take off your therapist pants, you know, and no, those aren't her normal pants. So we do that too. It doesn't happen as often as you think. Which pair of pants are you removing more?

The therapist ones. The therapist ones. No, she actually has this thing that she calls when she has to, when her friends call her just to talk being a friend to this. So she tries to turn that off most of the time. You know, that's like not how she operates on a daily basis. You lived in Iowa, right? The home of Chris of Chris Souls. Do you still live in Iowa? No, right? No, I'm in, I'm in Connecticut, actually. Where's Taylor? She is in Seattle. We do the long distance thing. You do.

Well, we usually see each other like three weeks out of a month, but so right now she's in Seattle, and then she comes and stays with me for a while, and then heads back over there. So how does that work? Like, weekend? Is that what we're talking about? No, like four weeks. She'll stay here for like a couple of weeks. Okay.

Yeah. Nice. Derek, I have to ask you a question that is a little bit intrusive. And I mean this in the best possible way, because I think everybody out there that's listening will probably be able to relate. And I want you to be able to talk about this openly. Taylor did not come off, and let's not blame the show. I want to talk about you for a second. Taylor did not come off the best during first season of The Bachelor.

And I think that was those clear issues. There's a lot of strife and controversy around Taylor. some of her relationships on the show. But you looked past that. And so let's just like take that out of the picture now. You were able to look past that and say, no, I just want to get to know this woman for who she is. How did you do that?

Why did you do that? And was it difficult for you? Okay, so the very first thing, I had the same perception as everybody else did. Like walking in there, I did not want to get to know Taylor at all. And, you know, she thought the same way about, me, that whole reality Steve, Olivia B.S. thing that came out, you know, we, like, both of us were, like, not interested in each other at all. And, uh, we just sat there on that,

I don't know, whatever they call them, Cabana thing for like three hours and we could not stop talking to each other. So how did I do it? I mean, we just, you know, we just couldn't get away from each other. It wasn't about how, what, or like, you know, who was looking for a rose. I mean, we just couldn't stop talking. So, It was just natural. But it wasn't easy. I mean, it's interesting that you both went into it with this, this idea that, hey, I'm not interested, but you allowed both, like, your walls to kind of be broken down.

I think that's incredible. And I wanted to hear that because I remember watching it. And I think Ashley and I were analyzing Baxter and Paradise Day at the time. I said, I like this couple. Like, this couple is a great couple. I see them as very similar. I remember this, Ashley, you were talking about it. It's very similar to the Carly and Evan situation in my eyes where it's like,

you can see that this is a legit couple. Like, you can watch it and go, this is bigger than any television show. That is true. Oh, Ben, we like you guys, too. No. Yes, I picked up on that. No, totally. But if you go in with an open heart, that's what it comes down to.

You know, like, if you're going in with an open Instagram feed and just trying to get more followers, then it's inevitably going to be a pain in the ass time because you're just trying to get screen time. And people are going to hate you for that, you know? We both just went in with open hearts, and it was, you know, You know, just kind of like we just gravitated towards each other. Which sounds cheesy, but it's so true. You guys have been together for a year. Are you wedding planning or, you know,

or you're just like we're young and enjoying ourselves? Yeah, we're taking it flow on that front. This is actually, my sister's getting married next month, so this is her year. I'm giving her that one. You are, your best friend from the franchise is Wells, am I correct? You are correct. So have you guys gone on a double date with him and Sarah?

Or would you plan on doing that? We did. So we spent actually like all of the New Year's time with Wells and Sarah. And it was creepy because Sarah and Taylor are very weirdly a lot of like. It was kind of fun. So yeah, we went, we went and did the whole New Year's night. And then we watched the show and did junk Snapchat with them and all that good stuff. That was for the beginning of our season.

reason, actually. How are they so alike? Just all the like little quirks and stuff and the things they say, they would like they jinxed each other like five different times. It was crazy. All right. Well, Derek, we need to have you and Taylor on at the same time one time. Maybe during Paradise and you guys can give your thoughts about the new

couples. There you go. I can't wait to just tell my opinion on everybody. You're pretty active on Twitter though. You may not be an Instagram. guy, but you're a tweeter. Yeah, I am. I kind of have like an ADHD brain, so that's how I just get it out of my head and just boom. All right, well, we're looking forward to all your feedback come the next Bachelorette and Bachelor in Paradise season.

And we wish you and Taylor the best of luck, so sorry that we forgot to add you to the list of successful couples. We will never forget that again. I will hold it against you. All right, thanks, Derek. We appreciate you. Awesome. to be on. Bye. Bye. All right, you guys, your favorite segment.

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I like talking to people. And this is where I get angry. How many times today do we call a customer service line? If it's your cable network or it's your cell phone service or it's your insurance or whatever it is. And you have to talk to a freaking robot. Wait a second. I can't believe this is what you're pitching about. I can't believe it.

Why? And don't interrupt me when I'm mad, because when you end up with me mad, I get really angry. But actually, go ahead. I was going to Insta Story this exact same thing this weekend. I mean, like, just make fun of myself when I'm on the phone with a robot because it'll be like, what are you calling about? I'd be like, transfers. And then they'll be like, we need you to get more specific transfers about this. I'm like, yeah, transfers from one bank account to another.

And then it's like, I didn't quite hear you. transferring from one bank account to another pardon me and it's just like and my facial expression and the fury that pulses through me and now take over your segment again well that was it I'm done you've said it you've got it

we're good so Ashton I both think is ridiculous we need to deal with people more often that's it that's it yeah i was i'm just mad about going in circles with this with customer service people it's just so annoying that it's always like i didn't quite hear you did you say this and then you just want to throw your phone against the wall is that what you just said that you wanted to throw your phone against the wall no you said you wanted to punch the wall but yeah yeah very similar yeah it's not fun we get people back on the line uh the computers are no longer fun to deal with can i bitch about

your bed and bitches last week? Oh, yeah, you can say whatever you'd like. You know how I was talking about how people riding on bikes in the middle of the road? And they're like, you sounded so ignorant talking about riding bikes on the road. And I'm like, okay, so now you're

bitching at me for bitching. Yes, I know it's illegal in many places to ride your bike on the sidewalk. I'm not saying that there's anything you can really do about it. I'm simply expressing that it's annoying when we all have to merge into another lane because you insist I'm biking on it.

Sorry, guys. I'm going to stick with this one. I think you need your own sleep. I think you just got it. This is now no longer me. This is you. No. You get your moment to express everything because here's a thing, actually.

What I've noticed is one tweet will really kind of like get under your skin. Like one person can really like fire you up. And so I think every week, if you really thought about it at some point during the week you've gotten really fired up about something so let's just transfer this over no ben it's the whole thing is i'm very natural when it comes to bitching it's part of me you don't do it that's why we have the segment okay yeah well i was just going to say i was going to give you your moment to to release yourself i really really need to step back i'm sorry guys this is ben's segment next week i won't even agree if i do agree with him

not disagree with you, actually. I think everything that you say typically is spot on. And I think you're just kind of tweaking the world to get more in line with what is logical, what is rational,

what is just correct. And so everything that you say, I think, is spot on. I wonder if Ashley, like, if you could just step up on a pedestal during every podcast and we just let you loose, how good it could be.

No, no, that's not good. See, I'm good if I, if you give me like 30 seconds, be like, Ashley, what's annoying? 30 seconds. Boom, I can tell you. And a couple sentences, you on the other hand, can go on a total monologue about it. And it's flowy and articulate and I'm jealous. And you spin it around in the right direction. Well, Ashley, I know one of our closest friends in vaccination is in studio right now.

We have a pressing topic. I see on Instagram and social media that Jared participated in Bachelor in Paradise, Australia. I'll let you two kind of take it in studio here. Jared, I know there's an email out there from one of our wonderful listeners. Ashley, what does it say? Well, we're going to leave them a suspense for a moment because we have to talk about bioclarity, which I think Jared's a fan of too, which is why his skin is super glowy. It's because of bioclarity.

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co-hosts of the Help I Suck at Dating Podcast along with our bestie Dean. That's right. Yes, I am. And he is come, he is about to record his other podcast here in the IHeart Studio. But then I was sifting through these emails and I found one that pertained to him specifically. Oh boy. It is from Ilsa. It says, hi Ben and Ashley.

I'm a huge fan of the podcast. It's the one I listen to every week without fail. Thank you so much. I would love for you both to chat about Bachelor in Paradise Australia since Americans like Grant, Daniel McGuire, and Jared are on it. Have you two been watching? What do you think about all that's going on? And do you think that Bachelor in Paradise this year will have lots of internationals?

And do you think that these international couples that come out of the show will have a shot in the real world? Would so appreciate to hear what you think of this. Love you lots. Well, Jared. I guess this question really kind of pertains to me seeing how it was on the show. I will say I didn't. I haven't watched it. You left for it in mid-November. Yeah. So I filmed in November, early November. Early to mid-November, I went to go film. I was down in Fiji for about two, two and a half weeks where I was filming Bachelor in Paradise Australia. It was actually kind of weird

because I got an email. I was actually, I got a call to do winter games at first. And then Warner Brothers Australia reached out to me and said, hey, we're interested in having you on our Bachelor in Paradise. We're doing our first season. I thought it was a joke until I got a call from Australia saying, no, this is an actual show that we want you to perform down in Australia with us. Perform. Perform.

You know, put on a performance for us, Jared. That's what you do best. And so, long story short, I went down there and I'm really glad I did. So, first of all, is one. Jared and I were convinced that they both didn't want us in winter games, though. Oh, no, we were definitely convinced of that.

It would have made no sense if both of us went because it would have been. You would have seen it. You'd seen it before. but what was I saying okay yeah so tell us about like did you find anyone there did you kiss anyone there I haven't watched

I don't know so did I kiss anybody man you're just going to have to watch watch the show I mean I guess so it just aired It was kind of just Is it finished aired? So long story short it just aired

It was weird because it filmed back in November It just aired this past month my exit actually was last night and so I didn't kiss anybody there I was there for about five row ceremonies I did the most prototypical Jared thing which was just kind of coasted through not kiss anybody and then as soon as somebody showed interest

I was like well see you later and the funny thing is that even though you weren't kissing anyone these girls still wanted you they were like well no no in the beginning but I still want his rose well in the beginning it was I was definitely forming a lot of friendships I became really close with a lot of people and then

towards the end, there was a couple of girls who were like, I really want to get to know you on a deeper level. And that's what girls always feel from you, but then they don't, they, you take. Do they, actually? Are you sure? Yes. And then you like, just drag it out of them where they're like, excuse me, I'm not sure where this is headed, but I think I need to clarify. I would like a romantic relationship here.

You seem to be friend zoning me. And then I deflect for a good two hours and then walk away. And then it's just a game over after that. But do I think the relationships could last? So I want to see, first of all, Isla, you should also listen to the help I suck a dating podcast because Dean and myself try very hard on that podcast and we think we do a good job. Well, I will have to say that I think that the success rate is going to be even slimmer when you factor in the internationals, just as we saw with Bachelor Winter Games.

It's just even harder to keep an international relationship, especially with you guys, because that's one continent. and then you're like a whole 12-hour flight away? Yeah, so I think that was the most difficult part. I will say, though, I feel like there were probably a number of contestants within this Australian Bachelor in Paradise that would have been willing to move to America. So it would be interesting to see if they bring in contestants for the Bachelor in Paradise America. They definitely will. I think they will as well.

But it'll be interesting to see if any Americans would be willing to move to different countries for them. I don't know. It is kind of a stretch, I feel. I heard there was a rumor that there was potential international contestants coming on last year to Bachelor and Paradise had things been different with filming. Exactly. So I don't think it's going to be really that abnormal if they bring international contestants on this paradise. We had Winter Games. We had the Bachelor of Paradise Australia where they brought Americans in. They also brought Canadians. There was this guy from Bachelor of Canada named Thomas that came there. So I think it might become a little bit of the norm for a little while to see if this works out. Let's bring international contestants on. Well, I just have to say that Yuki did make an appearance this week in America, in L.A., and I think this weekend may have been a Bachelor in Paradise casting weekend. I don't know. Who really knows for sure.

Who does know for sure. But, you know, Yuki has entered the country, and that's always good news. That's always great for America. Yeah. Okay. Well, you guys, that's it for this week's podcast. make sure to tune in to Jared and Dean and Vanessa on this week's Help I Suck at Dating podcast. Just listen to all the IHart podcast, you know, all your bachelor favorites here,

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