The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - S5 #6 Building Up to Becca

Episode Date: May 1, 2018

As we speed closer to the premiere of The Bachelorette, Ben and Ashley have a huge special guest announcement!  Then, they check in with a member of Bachelor past, Jesse Csincsak, who had no idea he was talking to Ben Higgins. And they catch up with JP Rosenbaum and Ashley Hebert, another Bachelor Nation success story. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast with IHartRadio. Welcome back to the Almost a Miss podcast. I'm Ben. I'm Ashley. And we are so excited to have you joining us today. Thank you for listening. We appreciate you. We have to jump right into it. We're three weeks away from The Bachelorette.

Ashley, scale one to 10. How excited are you? I don't get excited until the season starts. I don't really like, I don't anticipate. it. Really? No. You don't miss it?

Is that bad? No. Hey, there is nothing wrong with any opinion that you have towards the bachelor bachelor, bachelor's athlete. I'm interested in on why you don't miss it. I mean, your life literally goes from zero to 100 once the bachelor's start, doesn't it? Well, Ben, maybe that's why. Yeah.

Yeah, perfect. I mean, that's a good point. Tell everybody, like, What exactly do you get involved in once the show starts? Oh my gosh. Okay. So I have obviously this recap. Then I have my Cosmopolitan recap.

I have my FabFit Fun recap. And then I have my Access Hollywood recap. And that is on the live morning show and their Facebook. They're digital. What's the best recap, Ashley? Oh, they're all children to me. I can't pick a favorite. That's very disappointing.

But of course I love. doing it. It's just, yeah, it's a lot of different ways of analyzing the show that I have to come up with to make each one a little bit different and special in its own way. Interesting. Well, hey, I got some big news when it comes to Becca's season.

I've gotten a little inside scoop. So far, what I hear is Becca is an incredible bachelor. Not for any other reason other than she is very attentive, very caring, loving. She's obviously beautiful. But I guess from everything I understand, they hit

a home run when it came to finding Becca as a Bachelorette. I love that. What do you think? I mean, that's awesome. I think so. I think she's probably going to just relish in the role. I don't see her complaining about it being too tiring

or anything like that. I feel like she's going to be like the least diva like bachelor's. You're right. I mean, so that was kind of the insight I got was that, you know, she's so like being a bachelor's so tiring. We've talked about this a few weeks ago. She doesn't complain. And I have actually, I can't wait to explain more about this. I've just met up with somebody

who was asked to go home from her season recently. I wonder who was. Yeah. And all they had to say was incredible things about Becca, that she was literally like their dream girl. And not in like a weird like, oh, I missed her kind of way, just like, man, that girl's special. And so I'm pumped to this season. I'm looking forward to it. I'm excited. I think Becca is going to blow this Tuesday out of the Waller. How lucky is the Bachelor franchise, though? I mean, we've talked about before, but they haven't

had a bad, quote-unquote Bachelorette, maybe ever? No, the girls kill it. Why? Why is that? I'm going to think about that. We can take back on guys and name a thousand, and, you know, we're 0 for 5 in the last five years.

So, like, what about girls? What makes them different? I just, I have to go back to that. Like, they don't have the subtle desire in the back of their head to maybe take, to play around a little bit after. I don't think the Bachelorette ever goes, oh, but you know what, if I'm the Bachelorette and it doesn't work out on the show, then I'm going to have the world at my fingertips as far as the available men that come to me. I think guys are some, I mean, not you, Ben, and maybe I'm generalizing. I probably am. I'm probably being

sexist. Sexist, yes. Double standard. I feel like it's very much a double standard of me to say this, but I do think that the guys are probably saying, hey, if this doesn't work out with her, think about all the girls

that'll be after me after this. Yeah, I don't think you're wrong. Oh, good. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I don't think you're wrong at all. I think it's very interesting. And that is true. I mean, once you get off, you know, the girls are all waiting, you know. But the question is, is it the right one?

And I think the show really offers the ability to find the right one. But anyway, we're pumped out here at the Almost Famous podcast. We've almost made it through our third off season. That's insane. And this is maybe going to be one of the best shows that we've had. But before we get into Bachelor News, I want to let everybody know that in What is it, actually? Two weeks.

I'm trying to look at our calendar here. The season starts in three weeks. We will have a very special guest. Reveal it. Reveal it, Ben? Dramar. Oh, the Bachelorette. In two weeks, right?

Yeah. We'll have her on for a whole hour in two weeks. Oh, that's insane. That's good. What are we're going to talk about? I'm going to be nervous. Oh, you are? I'm going to be nervous, too.

That's a big deal. Yeah. She's like almost like a Rachel Lindsay to me. me like, you know, she's a little intimidating, but she's super sweet and super kind. But, like, even when I see Rachel today, like, I kind of, like, get a little nervous just because, like, she's, she is, you know, a lady boss. No, she really is. They definitely have a presence about him.

All right. Anyway, we're going to, we have to move on here. Ashley, what are your thoughts? NZK, the production company of The Bachelor has come out with a new show. They've tried a couple shows here recently. Not all of them will work. Actually, a couple have been very successful. the one with Andy Cohen called

Help Me Out Here, Ash. What's the name of it? Andy Cohen Show? No, he's the host of Anybody in the studio? Love Connection. Oh, Love Connection. Okay. Yeah, it's an IndyK show that's doing pretty well.

Yeah, and then they have this one. The proposal, which was just announced recently, the proposal is being hosted by Jesse Palmer. He was The Bachelor at a few years ago, many, many years ago. I don't remember him as The Bachelor. I don't know how many people do. the professional football player. He also worked on Good Morning America for a while.

I don't know if he still is. Yeah, he does. Is this a good choice as a host? Oh, yeah. I think he's like, he's going to be great with this. I'm not sure if he's still on Good Morning America. You're right. But he also does some entertainment reporting for, I think it's, what is the, what is the, why

am I blanking on like these things? What's that European outlet for pop culture news? Help us out here, Mark. It looks like he's working with Daily Mail. Daily Mail. Thank you. Okay, yes. Hey, Mark.

He hosts Daily Mail, which is, you know, a entertainment news program. And I knew Jesse Palmer, even before he was The Bachelor, because I'm a Giants fan, and he was the hot backup quarterback. And then all of a sudden he became The Bachelor. And I was like, well, if I was old enough to go on the show, I'd be down with that Bachelor. Really? Yeah. I mean, he's a Bachelor, you remember. you think he's a great choice to host the show.

He's good looking. He's intriguing. Are you going to watch the proposal? I guess. Yeah, I have to. I'm an NZK fan. And they're my family, basically. So, of course, I'm going to watch the proposal. I had a couple friends that went to go to the first taping last week. And they say it's quite something.

Like, proposals may happen on this show, for real. And they may only know each other for a little bit. just like what I mean a little bit I mean less than we know these people from The Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise Absolutely crazy I actually had a friend of mine

Here in Denver, Colorado Who was going to be on the show Actually I helped him Film his like casting video for this show He really wanted to do it It didn't happen Did he end up going on the Bachelorette? No he didn't

He didn't end up going on It's interesting I think I don't know, Ashley. For me, these shows, do they work? What keeps an audience engaged? I mean, we've had the Married Up First Sight show that's done really well. You know, we've had some of these, like, other dating shows that last. But a lot of them also kind of flutter away.

What do you have to see in a proposal to keep you hooked other than being a fan of the production company? I guess just like the small little glimmer of it actually working. out. I think that's what it is on Married at first sight. I think it's like absolutely almost unhuman to just see your husband or wife for the first time as you're walking down the aisle to them.

But then you're like, wait a second. How crazy would it be if this works? So I guess there's just that little crazy outrageous factor that you tune in for. But we forget. And I think this is one of the most interesting things. And I sat on a panel and talked

about this the other day. We forget that not that long ago, actually, and actually in other places in the world today, arranged marriages are not a forgotten gesture. Like, those, they happen. Oh, totally. They're respected. And so. And they work so, so often. That's what I'm saying is I want to see if the percentages. I don't have the percentages in front of me, but I do know they're very high. They work so, so often because the grass isn't greener anywhere else. You are focused on, okay, this is my partner and how do I make this work with this person? And so the idea of not knowing somebody for very long or an arranged marriage isn't one that I'm upset about. Like, I actually kind of wish, like, I would have just been set up to say, this is your wife.

You got to build a life and you're going to make this thing work. And I would have said, all right, let's do this thing. I think it would be perfect for you. You want to go on Marriott for a site next? I mean, I really think this could work. However, I know it would be horrible for me because I am just, it's got to like, I can't make something work. It just has to naturally work. but, yeah, arranged marriages, they're successful often,

and I think it has to do with maybe the parents, you know, knowing their kids so well, they know who will be a good fit for them. I think my mama would be able to choose my sister's husband quite well. I don't disagree with that. Hey, Ash, we have a caller in the line, but before we go to them, I got to run through the rest of these fast news really quick here. Biggest news I think to date right now is Vanessa Grimaldi dating somebody. We don't know who.

Do you have any idea of who you think it is? She talks about it on Dean and Jared's Help I Suck at Dating Podcast. Yeah, definitely. She hints at it, but I don't think that it's somebody that we know. That's interesting. Do you think, I mean, he's not in the bachelor world, not in the bachelor's world. From listening to the podcast, they sound serious. What do you think?

Are you happy? I mean, you're obviously happy for her. Yeah. I mean, how do we dance around this issue? Do we just talk about it? Do we bring her on sometime to talk about a new relationship? I mean, this is a big deal, right? I think it's relatively fresh.

I think it's fresh. I wouldn't say that they've been dating any longer than two months. So maybe when she's really ready to be public with it, we can have her own. Okay, I get it. I want to respect that because I tell you what, I get that a public breakup is tough to go through and you don't want to go public with a new relationship until you're exactly ready. I think that is very, very smart. All right, next news.

Ari and Lauren, moving quickly. We've heard it. you know, a couple weeks ago from the therapists. They are moving and grooving in a way that we've never seen before. They bought a house. In a way, we've never seen before. I mean, I've never seen this. We're not even starting the Bachelorette season yet.

And these people have traveled all around the world. I mean, good for them. I'm jealous, honestly. So if I say something negative here, it's because I'm just envious of their life. But, and then they bought a house. I mean, they're not slowing down. No, no, they're not. in it to win it, as Randy Jackson would say back in the day.

Are they going to be the first couple to get married, do you think, out of all this group? Actually, I think they might. And if they don't do a televised wedding, I could see them just doing it this summer on their own. Yeah, I mean, you know, I could do it. I just actually, I'll send you a picture, actually, after the podcast here. I just officially got my ordination in Indiana. I can now illegally marry somebody in Indiana.

My cousin recently has asked me, well, I can. actually transfer it to any state, any 50 states. So if anybody's out there wanting me to, you know, do the ceremony, just let me know. You know I do in the future. Well, hopefully, Ashley, you can get married fairly soon. And on the next one, Nick Vile is on General Hospital. Is he a cast member? I'm reading that he's hosting something. Like, is this a new career for him? What's going on? He's acting, but he's playing himself in an acting role. Like, he has a script, and he is playing the host of, of some sort of general hospital ceremony that they have.

I don't know how good of an actor he is. I think he's probably pretty good. I haven't got to see him other than on his TV roll. But I'll pump. I'm pumped. I'll watch your hospital for Nick. I would do. I totally would too.

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Hey, Ashley, Blue Apron, a better way to cook. I love the way you say that. Is that weird? No, it's not weird at all. Actually, we're going to throw it back many, many years right now to our favorite segment, one that we just love so much. We're going to do, who the heck are you? Jesse? Jesse, help me out with your last name here.

It's SINCAC. It's like, you know, Sinscac, like the trash bag, Sinscac. Sinscats. That's amazing. Jesse, thank you for joining the Almost Famous Podcast. Thanks for having us. Ashley and I are pumped to talk to you. Tell us about life today.

What's going on? You know, the father of three, the husband's one, have a couple of businesses that I run, and life is busy, man. There's not a lot of free time. There's not a lot to cut out other than sleep at this point. I get it, man. The kids have to weigh on you a bit. It's exciting, though, and you're married to Ann Luters, right?

I'm saying the name, right? I'm lucky with name. Is she with you right now? She's not. I'm actually running one of my businesses. I'm sitting in my truck. My guys are looking at me like, hey, buddy, get out here in the heat and help us. So, okay, I know Ashley has a ton of bachelor, former bachelor question.

She is a history nut when it comes to the bachelor. But I want to know when it comes to your businesses, you've got to promote them a little bit. I mean, we got to help you on the podcast. What are you doing? I own a couple of property management companies. I own Colorado home check based out of Colorado. I own Arizona home check based out of Scotto, Arizona. And then I own Rocky Mountain Deck Company, and we build custom decks mostly for a lot of our luxury home clients that we manage homes for. And I just finished up real estate school and get my real estate license. And I'm going to kind of parlay that all in my, you know, the property management real estate business. So it'll be good. My wife's going to join me in. that. So it should be, we'd be a pretty good team, I think. You're absolutely crazy busy. Are you in Denver, Colorado? I am. I hear you talk about Colorado there. Is there any connection to Denver? Yeah, oh yeah. So I moved from

Cleveland, Ohio, or Amherst, Ohio, 30 minutes left to Cleveland when I was 18. I moved to Breckenridge, Colorado, bought a place, and spent about 15 years there. Met my wife there, and we got married and started having the little guys and girls and her whole family is down in Scottsdale so we moved down here to be closer to family and now we're uh we're down here we spend you know 10 months a year down here and then you know kind of jump back and forth when it gets real hot down here to go back to Colorado to enjoy the beautiful weather there awesome love it hey well I'm going to throw this over to Ashley here uh just to give a little background here uh you won the final roast Indiana Pappas uh back I don't know how many moons ago

and it was on j how long is that 10 years ago 10, 10 years, yeah, back pre-Jason-Mesnick. Everybody's like, who's that guy? I'm like, the guy with the kid. They're like, oh, yeah, I remember him. Unbelievable. Ashley, take it away. How did your wife feel when she met someone that she really liked,

but he had won a Bachelorette season? Well, my wife was on Jason Mazzanick season, so she kind of gets it. And then I started hosting all those reunion cruises. So I know after my wife and I kind of met. And when we first met, she wasn't into me. And I think that's why I was so into her. I was the one girl that didn't want to talk to me. And, you know, I was kind of the loud, obnoxious guy.

And it ended up working out in the end. You know, we have three beautiful children now, Noah, 7, Charlotte, 4, and Carter 1. And life is good. So you guys are one of the secret bachelor couples. There are so many in this world, apparently, that Ben and I have been learning week, by week because pardon us, yes, we should be educated on the entire history of the franchise. However, I mean, I didn't start watching it until I was 22. So I only know from Allie's season on.

Oh, wow, you're a newcomer. I mean, I guess so, but, you know, newcomer, that was eight years ago. It's true, it's true. Well, we were back in the day before it was cool to go on reality TV. We went on reality TV. There was no, you know, he didn't really get famous from being on reality. reality TV. Now, if you go on and get sent home on night one, you get like 500,000, you know, Facebook followers. You know, it was different back then. I don't even think there was,

I don't even think Twitter was around back when I was on. I'm not sure. You know what? You are old because you're referring to Twitter and Facebook. Yep. Exactly. Exactly. And now it's like Snapchat and all sorts of crazy stuff. Yeah, you guys truly had 15 minutes of fame. Like, It was only 15 minutes. Yeah, it's no joke. It was quick. You blink and see you later. On to the next season.

So. I wonder, Ashley, would that make it easier, Ashley, for you to go on to the show now? I mean, if you knew that, like, after the show's done, it's a forgotten piece of your life, I mean, why wouldn't he just do all of these? I asked that the question towards you. Why wouldn't he do all of these or why wouldn't I do all of these? Why wouldn't you do all? I mean, if you know that the repercussions from this show are very minimal, don't you think it would be easier than to decide if you're going to do it or not?

I think it's worse now, to be honest with you. So, like, here's what I get call on phone calls all the time. So I'll give you guys a nugget here that you probably don't already know. And that is on night one, the final four are picked, okay? Yeah, what? Wait a second. You're talking to a bachelor here. He knows how it goes.

Wait, is this Ben Higgins? This is Ben Higgins. Wait, what Ben am I talking to? Ben Higgins? You didn't know that, huh? No, I didn't even realize. I'm like, they're like, Ben and Ashley, and I'm like, oh, all right. Going to be honest, Jesse, this makes it all less awkward for us because we honestly have no idea who the heck you are.

Well, that's great. That's perfect. That's awesome. Dude, you know how ghosts on night one. You know, they basically. I'm out. Can we just pause for a second and realize what just happened? You had no clue, like, who you were talking to, and you're just going along with it.

No, I got a text message. I got a text message like, hey, do you want to go on IHard Radio with Ben and Ashley? I'm like, sweet. Sounds like fun. I'm all in. Did you think you were on a radio show and not a podcast? Yeah, I had no clue what I was doing. They just, you know, I just do that.

This is so good. All right. Anyways, our band, keep going. Yeah, I know. And you know that I was also on the show. So I wasn't up there with the top four, but I pretty much know how it goes. Well, Ashley, what's your last name?

Ike Netti, otherwise known as I. All right, fair enough. I like it. I like it. Well, you guys are both ninjas then. You already know what's going on. I thought two random radio hosts that don't know about the show, so that's even better.

This is just so funny. This is the best material we've had so far. Keep it organic. Hey, but Jesse, tell us. tell us what does happen to the top floor okay so you know you go on your hometown date it gets interesting that's where they separate you um and that's when i don't know for me i actually kind of realized that i was on a show and it wasn't i don't know the whole rest of the time that i that i went through the process it was just kind of like hanging out with friends our season

all the guys were super close and i think that's what made our season and i think that's what made our and, you know, so successful, viewership-wise, was they could really see the bond. And so even though the producers were producing a show and creating problem drama solution like they do in every single season, the guys really did. I mean, when I got married,

we had a lot of the guys from my season in our wedding as groomsmen because we really were close. So when it went down to Final Four and they separated the stall and locked the stall in separate hotel rooms, that's when the mind games sort of start, you're you're kind of sitting there and stewing on, you know, everything that's going on

or what could be going on that you don't know about, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And the producers and the production team do a really good, you know, job of trying to distract you. Oh, we're going to, you're going to deep fishing today or, oh, you're going to do this today or whatever the case may be. But it really is a mind vendor to sit in there and think, like, okay, well, I, you know, if you're in love with this person, well, what the heck are they doing with the other guy? or, you know what I mean? It's like, it really is, it's difficult.

You know what, Jesse, we do know what you mean. Sorry, I'm going to stop buzzing your balls right now. No, it's all good. It packs me up. I had no clue. I apologize. I, uh, you know, you guys, uh, you guys are way new, more new school than me. You probably have a way better idea of what cracking than I do.

I'm old school. I, honestly, I have a couple questions for you here. Mostly, I'm impressed that you're so willingly able to give up your time to anybody. that is associated iHeartRadio. So thank you for supporting iHeartRadio. We love iHeartRadio. If you love iHeartRadio, if you're listening to the show and you love iHartRadio, let us know by downloading the app, downloading our podcast, giving us great reviews because we need it,

and also emailing us at Ben and Ashley, iHeartMedia.com. Let me us know how much you appreciate iHeartRadio. We could use it. Our team could use it. Jesse, I heard something that you said a little bit ago, and I'm still confused, and I'm trying to Google it as we're talking. I'm not finding much. You acted like these reunion cruises were a thing I should know about and that Ashley should know about.

Yeah. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah. So back in the day, if you go back to the very first bachelor pad and you watch the trailer to the very first bachelor pad, you will see footage of people like Natalie Gets, David Good, Jesse Kofak, all on a cruise ship. And basically what happened was that's where the bachelor pads and what is not a, Now, what is it, Bachelor in Paradise? I mean, he's been sued so many times over the name.

He's changed it like three or four times. But that's where it all came from, was I used to host these reunion cruises so that all previous contestants could get together. I mean, we are a part of a pretty incredible dating pool. Do you think about it? We've all went through a very similar experience. We get one another.

And it's really cool just to all get together. And I was actually thinking about hosting one this summer in Scottsdale and just kind of reaching out to some of you new schoolers and saying, hey, there's, you know, probably 500 of us old schoolers that you do schoolers don't even know it exists. We'd love to meet you guys. We love to hang out and share stories and tales and talk about all the producers and all the silly things

that we've seen happen over the years. And that's kind of how, you know, it all came along was we were all getting together on cruise ships and having a good old time and production came to me and said, hey, we want to film this. And I said, well, I have a really good idea. why don't we put 20 guys and 20 girls in a house like Survivor and do challenges and bring sponsors in and let's call it the castaways. And, you know, the next thing I know there's a show on and Melissa Rycroft co-hosting it

with Chris Harrison and they called the Batch for Pat. So it's pretty interesting. Wait, right, right. You should have gotten executive producer credit for that. Credit Mike Price doesn't give credit to people. Come on, you guys know better than that. Jesse? That was your baby, your brainchild. No doubt, no doubt. But you know what? I'm pretty so good life.

I have the most beautiful family, I think, and I'm, I don't really follow the show too much anymore. But I think I'm the only guy with three bachelor bambinos. So I'll just take that crown and walk away and call it good. Three bachelor kids. I think you may hold the record right now. Yeah, I think so. And you're claiming, I just want to get this straight, you're claiming that you are the creator for Bachelor Pat. I didn't say I created The Bachelor Pat. I said I created The Castaways, and the original idea was to bring 20 guys and 20 girls and create a show where we did challenges like Survivor, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

And I did share this idea with production. They came and filmed it because they loved the idea so much. And they used the footage from my reunions. You can go watch it. In the Bachelor Pad, the first, you know, before they ever shot the first Bachelor Pad series, they used the footage from my reunion cruises. That was like the sizzle real. Exactly.

No way. Yep. Wow. Jesse. That's an incredible story. Googleable facts. You can go Google that stuff. Okay.

So listen. I think that what you had was obviously a terrific idea. It turned out to be a huge part of the franchise. I've always wanted to, one, put Paradise on a cruise, so it's like not in Mexico, but next it'll be Bachelor on a cruise because I've been on 18 cruises in my life, and I'm just a huge cruise fan. So you guys used to go on cruises just for, like, a reunion for yourselves, not for fans. No, well, so we did do some fan cruises, I think one or two at one point, but we did, I mean,

it was awesome because we would go to the cruise line and be like, hey, why don't you give us 50 free Cab is in 50 booth carts, and they're like, why would we do such a thing? And I'm like, well, I'll get you in People magazine for the next four weeks straight. And they're like, okay, perfect, then they would. And so obviously when you call all your friends from the show and you're like, hey, here's a, you know, ticket to go on a cruise for five days from, you know, L.A. to Baja back. And here's a free booth card. Who's going to say no?

Of course, you know, we're all single, ready to bingle, and no jobs, really, or whatever. And so we all went, had a great time. And, you know, it was cool. We met a lot of people, made a lot of friends, and, you know, just had a really great time. It really was an incredible experience. How I met my wife, not my wife on the first cruise I ever hosted. Well, I will be calling Royal Caribbean after this. Just kidding.

I've actually already emailed them multiple times about this. Get back it to me. You're going to keep getting your ideas stolen, Jesse. You've got to be careful. Actually, I want to know today, just to fill Jesse in a little bit, if you invited a bunch of the newbies on a cruise, is, okay, take away the TV camera. So take away any type of parenting or restrictions. How wild does that get?

I don't know if I could handle it. So now it's, so when we used to do it, we were all obviously not married, no kids, and it was a whole different ballgame. And it got. My point exactly. My point exactly. Pretty incredible. But now, you know, you got to remember, I'm pre-Jasonik.

Jason Mesnick and I went final two. and Jason became the next bachelor and, you know, I won the season. So that's how long ago it is. So now Jason and I, well, he had a son then, but now we all have, you know, small children, et cetera, et cetera. So if I was to do one, and I did it here in Scottsdale, it would probably be, you know, a little, let's call it, PG-13 slash maybe. Yeah, maybe PG-13 with maybe a evening splash rated R, but I think it would be way more chill than they used to be. I mean, there was a lot of photos that could not get posted to the interwebs back in the day because they just, you know, they just would have gotten flagged immediately.

There were a lot of hot tubs that had to be drained after I get together. Let's put it that way. Oh, come on. Oh, man. Yeah. Unbelievable. That's YouTubeable, too. There's a video of us after a reunion in the hot tub guy draining the hot tub, and he said,

This water is spent. Ashley, does this happen in paradise? Is that the thing? I've never gone in the hot tub in paradise. Proud of it. Oh, really? Yeah, I wouldn't need it. You get those weird bump and stuff.

Hey, Jesse, we appreciate you coming on, man. You've been great. Thank you for just coming on a random podcast, so you had no clue what you're doing. And we're really happy you did. Well, hey, I really apologize. I was unaware that I was in Bachelor, you know royalty so my apologies i had no clue i was getting on you guys are awesome and uh i really

appreciate you guys thinking of me and even having me on the podcast hey now we know who you are and you well now i know who you guys have a facebook page hit me up this is so funny we loved that part all right bye take it easy guys hey ben actually uh who the heck are you this this segment is not ending anytime soon. We're going to keep running it up until back a season of the Bad Threat with two special guests, one from Ari's season. I'm looking forward to that, a newbie, as we say, and one Oldie, and one from Lorenzo Bergeese? Yes, Lorenzo was the Prince.

I mean, we're absolutely killing me with names today. I have no clue who these people are. Lorenzo Brigitte. We have somebody from his season on, right? Yes, that's who are going to have in the next coming weeks. So we have two really special who the heck are you guests. I know all of you, well, all of you are thinking, how in the world are you going to sleep with those two guests coming up in the next two weeks of the almost famous podcast? I tell you, I'm going to sleep. You're going to buy a sleep number. And if you don't, you're absolutely crazy. I slept on a sleep number personally for a really long time. And I have a great back. I will tell you, my back feels

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It was my dad's car before mine. My grandfather, who we talked about in a previous podcast, actually had his own car dealership. And so one of my sentimental pieces on it is the back of the car has a sticker that says Graham Ford, which is the name of his car dealership in Indiana. And I don't want to get rid of the car because that's the last sticker less. And I have to keep that sticker. Like it is my best memory of my – it's like one of the coolest memories of my granddad. It's just the best that was over –

stating it. But like to get a car, your very first car from your granddad is a really special thing. So as a few weeks ago, my car, all the lights came on. I no longer have antelot brakes. So I'm nervous. It's going to shut that in any moment. So I don't know what I'm going to do. If anybody out there wants to give me a car, I'd be more than happy to accept it. You should ask Tanner. Tanner works at a, you know, he's very, very high up at a Honda dealership. That's a good point. He does that refrae. He does the financing for him. I'm going to go on Tanner. Ashley, you're so smart. She's offered it to me, the deal.

I know that you hinted at, you have an update for me on one of the most popular things we've ever talked about on this project. I'm shocked that so many people love to actually. I'm nervous and I'm excited. There is something to do here with death again. And I don't know where this is leading. All right. So last week we talked about died-in-house.com, how I spent $11 to make sure that nobody died in my new apartment because I got such an amazing deal on it. I assume that somebody must have died in a very graphic way in there.

Well, that didn't happen. The $11 proved that nobody died in my apartment, which is great. So I was walking the dog a couple days ago, and I told my neighbor, my neighbor from the place that I've been in the past year and a half. And I told him, I was like, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm moving. I'm going to miss you. You know, like, you're the best part about living in this building, blah, blah. and I was like, but I got this amazing deal

like down the street on this and I was so shocked by the deal I had to go use died inhouse.com and I was like, and it's clear. Nobody died in it. And he goes, wait a second. Do you know that somebody died in the house in the apartment that you live in right now?

No! Yes. The apartment that I lived in for the past year and a half since September 2016, somebody died in it. Oh, it's jokes on you. Joke is on me. I slept in it one other time since

I had one other sleep left in it Thank God I didn't have more than that I mean out of respect for the person that has passed away I know everybody out there listening and if you want to get mad at me for this Go ahead because I know everybody wants to actually hear Do you have any of the back story? Wait, do I have any of the backstory in the guy?

On the guy that passed away Like how did this happen? Was the elder like I said I had somebody passed away in my house and that was completely fine with me He was, he was an elderly gentleman. He loved the house that I live in a ton. He lived here 50 years. So I have no problem with it.

But like, is this like some type of murder scene in your house? No. He had a terminal illness. He was in his mid-60s. He lived alone. Yeah, my awesome neighbor, Ed, is just like, he's like the Lavitz Kravitz of the neighborhood. He kind of knows what happens in every single apartment. I'm sure most of our listeners have no idea who Lavis Kravitz is,

but that's the neighbor. on bewitched and she looks into the house and she's always like, what suspicious is going on? You know, anyway. I mean, that's okay. That, again, I would not have a problem with living in a house. I mean, that's a terrible scenario. But I'm glad that your neighbor kind of showed you. Ashley, stop freaking out about this.

Like, death happens. It's natural. Like, it's not super scary. So you can sleep in a house. No, no. My neighbor's super dramatic. He got a huge laugh out of this. He thought it was a little bit creepy.

too. Oh, jeez. Hey, anyways. He's no Ben Higgins. I'm happy that you're moving on, but it is kind of funny how it all turns back. We haven't gotten a ton of stories from people over the last week about using, what do you call this website that you're talking about all the time now?

Diedinhouse.com that I did not get sponsored to talk about. Oh, we're not getting sponsored to talk about it. But what I'm saying is, I would love to hear from our viewers. and our listeners today, is it normal for Ashley to look on this website? Like, is this an acceptable thing, or is this just odd and she needs to stop right now? Because I don't know what to say. You're oddly okay with living in a dead person house, and I maybe oddly not okay. Yeah, I think there has to be a compromise, so please email us at Ben and Ashley at iHeartMedia.com.

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Ashley, we have an exciting spot coming up. We have Ashley and JP on the line right now. Two of America's favorite people and maybe America's favorite bachelor couple. Ashley and JP, are you out there? Hi, how are you? Hi, how are you? Really? Good.

Hey, Ashley, and Jaype. Yeah, where are you at, JP? I'm in the car. Oh, we could tell. Yeah, we can tell. No big deal. Hey, welcome with all our famous. Yeah, this is, I'm glad you know who you're talking to.

We just had Jesse, I'm not even try to say his last name, Ziznack on the line Yeah, he had no clue who he was talking to for the first 10 minutes of our segment. He literally at one point goes, wait, is this Ben Higgins? And I said... That's really funny. Yeah, so I'm glad you guys know who you're talking to.

Ashley and JP, you literally are, Ashley's nice. We just love you. We talk about you a ton. I know the show loved you. I got to hear about you too all the time when I was a bad story. Oh, thank you. That's so sweet. What do you guys up to now? You know, we're just living the normal life.

We're just out of the spotlight, working nine to five, two kids running around like crazy. I mean, we're just like normal, normal people. I was just recently speaking of normal people. I know actually here is a big fan of you both as well, but I need to ask this or I need to tell you this. I've stayed a couple times now at the Langham Hotel in Pasadena, and every time I go in, somebody mentioned that that's where the two of you got married, correct? Yes, that's where we got married. That place is so beautiful.

Unbelievable. Yeah, we really love that. I don't feel like, I mean, even though it's been a while since you two have been on the show and, you know, I feel like the essence of JP National League has not left. The show is very proud of you, too. saying this to butter us up? No, not all. Yeah, yeah, buddy you up for one.

I don't have much to get out of it. He came on the podcast already, so I'm good. You're so sweet. We're blushing. Oh, it's so funny. We feel like old news. Like, you know, we did this like, what, eight, nine, ten years ago. So it's like.

I think it was seven. Seven years. Yeah, it was seven, according to my deductions. We've been married by We're a year and a half Yeah I guess you're right I guess it's more like seven and a half But it's so funny because when I watch now

I'm just as in it as anyone else Like I don't even feel like it was a part of my life Like that feels like a lifetime ago It's so funny Yeah we're back to being fans I would agree with that Ashley my question Like Ashley you've been on the show

Like Paradise and everything or no, sorry, Ashley, I can edit I guess we have two Ashty's on right now. Do you feel like that, too? Because I get what Ashley and JP are saying. Like, I'm just a fan now. I don't really like, I don't feel like it was a part of my life as much anymore.

Really? You were just on the show in February. I mean, I think when I watch it and I'm on it, like I get it. But when I'm not on the show, I feel very distant from it. I don't feel distant from it yet. Yeah, but I think you need a little, yeah, a little more time.

Yeah, give it a few. I would say two years of no bachelor airtime. Is that going to happen for you? Who knows? No, you guys, you're the first couple that I felt like I watched and I truly felt like they found their soulmates. Because, Ash, I think your season was the second Bachelorette season I ever watched, but it was like just totally different from what I saw previously. I was like, this, this is real genuine. and lasting love.

Aw, that's so sweet. He drives me crazy every single day of my life. I know, but that's part of the fun, right? That's part of love. Yeah. Yeah, thank you. What made it different? Like, what made it different to the two of you?

I mean, I think Ashley and I both agree, we watched it and we realized that, you know, you two had something special. But what was, in your opinion, what was that special something? Do you want to answer? I mean, I don't really know. I feel like everybody asked us, what's the secret? I think we both went on the show for kind of like an experiment and just to see what would happen. We had very low expectations.

We went on just kind of as ourselves, not trying to achieve anything with no expectation of becoming anything. We already had our lives kind of set up for us, our career set up for us. So I think we went into it with very genuine emotions, and we just happened, it's just like going to a bar. Like sometimes you go and you meet someone, you know, you find somebody that you love or you find somebody that you connect with. But for us, we're lucky enough just to find someone that we connected with. It was a totally weird environment. And then we just flourished after we got up the show, I think. Yeah, I don't think the real relationships start.

until, you know, way after we got off the show. I mean, that was just the catalyst for everything, and just like in life, you know, relationships work, they don't work, people meet the craziest ways. Like, we just happened to meet this way. And then we got on with our lives together, and fortunately, for us, we grew together as opposed to growing apart, you know, like so many in the couple do. JP, you're still in construction, and Ashley, you still a dentist? I'm in real estate development, yep, and she is still a pediatric dentist, yeah, so we kind of continued on our paths.

I love that. Yeah, yeah, that's good. Ashley, I, I'm going to have to be clear. I would love for you to ask Ashley DAPE, because I would ask you myself, but I don't know if I'm educated as well as you do. Your theory on why bachelor's couples work more than bachelor couples. Oh, 100% I have the answer to this. Well, why are you asking me this?

This is a great question for the Ashley H. Well, no, because I wanted you to share why I wanted you to share your opinion on why that works. You can agree or disagree. Oh, because I think that, I don't know. I don't know why I think that is. I mean, 100%. I think it's because women can dig through all of the BS, get past the looks, get past the sex of people.

and, like, find out what's really important to them. Like, they can navigate through that. I think men have a more difficult time. Like, there's so many, like, boobs and sex appeal and lust. And I just think I have a hard time navigating through that. So they're just... I said boobs. I said loss.

Am I allowed me to do those things? But, you know what I mean? It's pretty PG. Do you guys? I don't know. I just... I feel like men have a hard thing. hard time with that and women, you know,

know what's important. That's just my humble little opinion. I'm totally crossing like a respect boundary when I bring this up. What? But you were a little lusful for Bentley. Oh my goodness. Oh.

I mean, that dragged on way more on the show, like on the airing than it actually did in real life. In real life it was like three days. No. See? These are the kind of things we need to know on the almost famous podcast. And I was like, let it go, guys.

Who cares? Like, get over it. Yeah. That's hilarious. I like that Ashley. That's what I love about you ask. You whispered because you felt like you're offending somebody. Like, not everybody can still hear you.

If you're whispering to be respectful of JP, even though I can hear you on a lot. I know. I just like, Bentley is this this character from the Bachelor past that I've always wondered why hasn't washed up on the shores of Bachelor in Paradise because he's such a drama king.

Well, you know, I think he's really smart and he just chose to stay out of it because I think it affected his life. I think it really, really affected his life with, you know, the way that he was, I don't know if I can say portrayed or the things he did and how it looked. I think it really affected him.

I mean, I don't know. I've never spoken to him. But I think that it really negatively affected him, and he wouldn't bring it back into his life. That would be my guess. I wouldn't say it was a positive experience for him. I just think he has a lot to lose if he went back. Got it.

I'm looking at pictures. I just Googled his name, except no clue you all I was talking about. A picture of you and Chris here is standing side by side. Ashley I, you have to Google this. Chris Harrison looks so young. Like, so

young. It's insane. I'm looking at this picture and like, honestly, like, he had to be like your age, right? I mean, he looked like at the same age. Oh my God. I think Harrison gets better looking as he gets older. I totally think so too.

Right? Oh, yeah. And I also think one thing about Chris Harrison, I, when you meet him. He's so extraordinary and charismatic that he's, like, I love him more in person than I ever did from watching him, you know, on the bachelor. Like, he's there's something about him. He has a spark. He has something. I don't know. He's got such swag. Yes, that's what it is. Like confidence. He's just so cool and funny. He swears. And I love it. Geez. I feel like Chris Harrison gets more loved every year. And I get why. I mean, I love Chris. But, I mean, that guy is literally like some of these hosts, you kind of get sick up, right? Time wears on a little bit. Chris Harrison is time does not matter to him. And just the older he gets, the more relatable he gets with this next generation kind of coming up through. Totally.

It's super impressive. And I think that's a part of his job that we don't give enough credit for. it's just how relatable he stayed to Bachelor nation Yeah, everybody loves them So good Jake me, I got a question for you It really is What, okay

As a The Bachelor at Winter Now you've kind of moved on But if you could go back to those moments Was it tough for you to watch this show back? So I didn't watch the last few episodes But I think it's at that point Like, I was fine for the majority of it, watching it back. But at that point, the two of us had not seen each other in a couple months,

and the novelty of hiding it all and kind of wore off. And we really just wanted to be together, be out in the open, and move on with our lives. I think the last few episodes I didn't watch just because we were really just kind of sick of it all and wanted to move on. But from what I did watch, nothing ever really bothered me. You are so overconfident. That's because I had this thing locked up until it was week two.

Oh, sorry. Maybe it was week three, but still. Yeah, I think it was week three, babe, but it's all good. One thing that you, I wrote you, so every day, from when I decided it was going to be J.P., it was probably week three or maybe two and a half, but I wrote him a journal entry every single day, like explaining, well, why I did this and why I did that. how I was feeling and we still even have that journal so he kind of was really confident all along and even playing it back like he knew what was going from my head at certain times so I feel like it was kind of easy breezy for us because it was such a clear choice for me um I love that story

the journal really kind of like you'll get it not that I ever had any doubt but you know just when I thought that maybe there could be some doubts you hand me this journal just kind of to reaffirm all of my thoughts through the entire, quote-unquote, process. It was just, uh, my God, I'm such a good girlfriend. You were, you're another my girlfriend. You were only my fiance. Right, that's true. That's true.

That's so weird. That is, that's lovely. I think so many, that's a great idea for the future Bachelor and Bacheloretts to do, especially when they've, like, really figured out who their person is, and then the rest of it is all just going along with the TV show of it. Yeah, because you never really know. You could take their word for it, but this was just, it was just, it was perfect. It was kind of what I needed.

I love that. Yeah. I got one last question for you guys. Mm-hmm. Who have you loved watching on this franchise since you guys have departed from it? Oh, that's a good one. Me, other than you two? Oh, yeah.

That's so sweet. No, actually, I've never yelled at the TV more than, at you like cool girl you're so beautiful you have so much going on like get it together like rock it girl be confident like you could be the most beautiful

person in this whole franchise that's like you don't know it you know what I mean it's like work it girl oh thank you I want to give you like that's too but I'll just scream over the phone now oh well I kind of like that

I've invoked that emotion in you Oh, you know, I really loved watching, and you'll never guess, Ari. Really? Why? Yeah. I don't know, and I still can't put my finger on it. Like, every, all the past seasons, I've been like, okay, you know, I'm just a fan. But with Ari, I was really into it. I don't know.

I just liked him, and I thought he was really, I mean, I thought he was sincere. And I loved his, the way he responded. I felt like he was really listening to him. them and responding truthfully and sincerely. I mean, unfortunate, everything that happened and how everything happened, but in the moment, like, I really, I really enjoyed, I really enjoyed his season. That's nice to hear. I like that.

Yeah. Yeah, that's big of you to say. It is. It's nice to hear because I think even on this podcast, we've been overly tough on Ari. You know, I think he had his own things going at the batch that weren't great, but it's nice of you to be supportive of that guy because at this point, as we were talking about earlier before you all came on he's really happy they're buying houses together they're traveling

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interview with Jesse. I mean, who knew that he was the unspoken executive producer of Bachelor Pad and Paradise? I mean, I think, I hope that's true. And even if it's not, it's nice that he thinks that he is that in his own mind. It's really good. It's really nice. Hey, I said, I need to talk to you about something. Oh, is it, is it Ben Bitches? Are we here yet?

We're here. And this is something that I need to talk through with you. Okay. Oh, really? Yeah. Here's the thing. And tell me if I'm crazy and tell me if I'm on. But there's one thing that people do, and they seem to be impressed by it, that just

completely grosses me out. And here's why. I'm okay with human being human. I'm totally all right with us releasing ourselves in whatever way we see fit or we need to. But there is a time and a place. There is a respect level to how we do it. And what I'm talking about is day is burping. I hate burping.

I am a really, really anti-verping person. I think it is absolutely disgusting. And here's why. Okay. I really like people. And I find people very intriguing. But my issue is that when you burp it's coming out of your mouth, and that's the same mouth that could potentially, in my world, if you're a female,

in other worlds, whatever you're into, I could be kissing that mouth. I'm all right with farting. I think that's great. I get it. You need to. Release yourself. But when you burp out loud, especially in front of me, And especially when I can smell, there is nothing in my life that disgust me more than knowing that that came out of something that I could be intersecting with.

So with that, my binging the day, and here's my thoughts towards people, is when you're in a restaurant around a bunch of people, when you're in line at a grocery store, around a bunch of people, when you're out having drinks around a bunch of people, at a bar, at church, at church, at, Cool. Be respectful to the people around you. Take a step away. Stop disgusting or grossing everybody out. You're disgusting. If you've got to burp, do it quietly. That's what bathrooms are for. I'm sicken tired of smelling what's coming out of your summit. I don't need to. You agree. I like, yes. You know why I like that? Because you didn't take it back. There was no sermon. You just hate burping. And I think burping's disgusting, too. I think it's funny you're like, you know, I don't want to smell what's coming out of your stomach. Well, the same thing is happening when you fart.

And I have to say, my mom hates it. She was one time listening to the podcast. And she was like, use the F word. And I was like, no, I didn't. It's like PG. And she's like, no, you use the word fart. I hate that word. And I'm like, okay, you know what?

I hate that word too, but past gas sounds just as gross. So like puff bubbles, puffing gas, something like that. Yeah, it's so gross. It's all gross. but I have to say that I I'm a farter I am not a burper there's also tooting

but I don't like it all I don't like it all but I'm a farter I barely ever burp I always say that I burp like maybe four times a year and the littlest things are like oops but there is something disgusting about like having a friend who's just like sitting in your family room and constantly burping

and then like you can keep it in mouth. Like, you could burp and, like, have your mouth closed, and then you just, you know, breathe out your nose. It's just, you don't have to make that sound and then, like, blow it out. Blah! I'm with you. No, I mean, I think there are two types of people in the world. Party people and burmere people. As a bit asylia, iHeartmedia.com, email us, let us know who are you, why are you the way you are and what would you rather be around? A roomful burpers, a roomful of starters, and there is no neither. Okay? This is not.

I'm neither question that you get you easy road out listeners. Step up for once. Be honest with yourself. Speak openly. Are you a farter, burper, and what room would you rather be in? There's no in between here. People are going to say that burping doesn't spread the smell as potently. And here's the thing.

You're right. But at least with farting, you can go to the bathroom and, like, squat down and then you get it all out. Oh, actually. I just got a mental limit it. But it's so unbelievable. Hey, Ashley, today's been a blast. I want to throw a quick thank you to Jesse for coming up. I'm not even trying to say his last name again.

It's too much for me. JP and Ashley, they're awesome. So in love. So great to listen to. Encouraging for all of us. And thank you to all our sponsors. This podcast was, it could not happen without you. And thank you to listeners.

You are the ultimate hero here. You keep this going. You keep this flowing. We are two weeks away. from talking to Becca, the next bachelor, and I'm telling you right now, this will be a season to remember it will be his story. I cannot wait to watch your love story unfold.

Ashley, you're awesome as usual. And with that, I've been Ben. I've been Ashley. Talk you soon. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcasts on IHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.