The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Serving Up Tea with Wells Adams

Episode Date: October 12, 2023

Ashley is hanging our favorite bartender, Wells Adams! And he’s pouring some strong drinks while we get all the behind the scenes secrets from this season of Bachelor in Paradise! Wells shares his unique insight on the guys this season, and we find out who’s there for the right reasons and who is “power hungry”. Plus… could we see a “Golden” Bachelor in Paradise?? Wells might have more bartending work coming up!   Join Ashley and Wells for "The Secret of My Success"! Tickets HereSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast with IHartRadio. All right. Hey, guys. Welcome to the Almost-Nus podcast. Ben is at a corporate meeting. now. So I am joined by Wells Adams again, second time this month. But Wells, last time we talked to you was three weeks ago before Paradise started. And now we have so much more to ask you about. First off, like, after watching the past couple weeks, are you putting in your

request to transfer over to being the Golden Bachelor bartender? Are you like, you know what? I've had enough of these young folks. Yeah. Well, like the words that they're using, I don't really understand. Well, yeah. Oh, you mean the words that the older people are using? No,

no, no, no, like the young, these young kids that are, you know, it's all about Riz and, you know,

bet and it's, it's scary. Like, I'm like, I don't know this language. So like, when I watch a little bit of the golden bachelor, I'm like,

oh, I'm pretty sure I could decipher most of these words. So I wouldn't feel like a complete idiot. I don't want to be the bartender on, What do you want to do? Golden Bachelor. I want to be the bartender on the Golden Bachelor in Paradise. I'm just like fingers crossed.

And I have, okay. And so like, you're friends with the producers. So like, let's make this happen. I've been thinking about this, like what this really needs to look like of a golden bachelor in paradise. It can't happen in Mexico. It needs to happen in like Del Boca Vista in Florida. You know, it needs to be like an old age home.

Okay. What if it, okay, that would be cool. I see where you're going with that. But then do we make it to be like snowy? vacation. So it's like in Aspen or someplace like that? No, because old people leave the snow and they go to Florida. That's why they're called snowbirds. So it needs to go down there. Makes for bringing sense to this. Yeah. So I've got thought this whole thing out. And so it needs to go down to Florida or like Palm Springs or like Scottsdale. Some place that's like way too hot,

right? Everyone needs to get around vis-a-vis golf carts. Okay. So like everyone will have their own golf cart, I feel like. And then when someone doesn't get a rose at a rose ceremony, they don't leave in like a SUV black car. They have to leave in a golf cart. I think that would be so funny. I think dates need to happen at a shuffleboard court. They need to happen at a bingo thing. Like there needs to be like a bingo fight. I'm sure it'll happen. Like whoever wins bingo gets to go on the date, like whatever. And what else? What do old people love? Oh, and the show, Like everyone needs to, when they do fantasy suites, it needs to happen like at 4.45 in the afternoon. Like the sun still needs to be up when they're like, see you later.

They close the door, you know? Amazing. Well, now that you bring this up, I think it's undeniable that it's going to happen, especially with the ratings. Why not milk it for all it's worth? Listen, I think the show is so saccharin and like sweet. And it's, I love the juxtaposition, especially that first episode, because I watched the first episode of the Golden Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise with Gary and with like half the cast of Paradise. Wait, where? In L.A.

We were. You guys had a watch party thing? Yeah. And it was, he's, by the way, the sweetest old man. Not even old man. He's a young guy. But he's the sweetest guy. I met his daughters and his, like, his niece or whatever.

And so we watched that show. I had no idea what to expect. I talked to producers and they were like, it's really good. Like, it's really heartwarming. But the juxtaposition between like him being so sweet and the ladies being kind of like so lovable. And then to like, you want to suck on my toes?

And like, I don't have to taste her. She has to taste me. And it was like, whoa, we went from like the sweetest little show to like, what is this show? So I love that the, it was like a complete 180. So yeah, I really do hope that there is a golden bachelor in paradise one day. It probably will. But speaking of Will, Will has been a main character of the first two episodes of Paradise.

Yeah. And he, and I say speaking of Will, because he was the one talking about sucking on toast, if anybody doesn't remember. Yeah. He is so funny to me because he just, I'm not sure, is he the kind of guy that is going to just, fall in love with anyone because when he says after just like one romantic conversation, after two days in paradise, I know I'm not one to talk, but he goes, it's always been Mercedes, just always been Mercedes. Tell us what you know about Will. Yeah, it's, I think that he so just desperately wants to be loved. Um, and he's a really, really sweet guy. And he really

wears his heart on his sleeve. And I think what I love about him the most is that there's a lot of like there for the right reasons talk obviously every season. And I really do think that Will wants to get married. Like I think that like he really, really wants to be engaged. He wants to start a family. You can tell he's very family oriented. Like my money's on. He is the biggest mama's boy that anyone's ever met. Um, so like in in that respect, I can't, can't put a lot of blame on him like he's doing the thing that we are all hoping everyone's doing there which is really taking this seriously and really wanting to find somebody um he's now getting kind of beaten down a little bit and i think that i was talking about this on

my podcast um and i don't know i'm not a woman but i think i understand women enough the problem that Will has is he doesn't kind of ooze confidence. And I think that's one of his good traits. He's just very honest and I think he's very emotionally sophisticated.

But you can tell that he like, I think questions his worth and everything. And I think women can kind of smell that from like a mile away. And I like I didn't get a lot of conversations with him and I wish I had And I wish I'd been able to see all this because I really would have been like,

I think you need to play it a little bit cooler. Oh, for sure. And I think things will be different because if you, on paper, he's six, four, six, five. He's huge. Holy moly. He's so handsome, like, absolutely shredded. He's got a good job. He wants to get, like on paper, everything should be like, this should be the guy, you know.

But he just, I think his confidence level just needs to come up a little. bit. And you know, who knows what will happen with him the rest of the season. And if he's around for seasons to come, I think he'll learn more about himself and more about how to kind of like act going down the road. And, um, and that's one thing that I think the show does really well, because everyone comes to that show very, very young, us included. And I remember watching a back learning so much about me and learning so much about women and how they interact with like my personality and stuff and it's really like a good place of growth and so I do hope that for Will but he does come across a little like I don't know no confidence yeah a little little desperate

yeah yeah I'm tiptoeing around the word but you can say whatever okay but like also he's very endearing like you say yeah and I think that comes because he he is a little maybe insecure yeah that scene of him and Mercedes on that daybed where he starts crying and she wants to make out with it like I was thinking that I was like if I'm a woman I'd be like

what am I do? This guy's crying on my shoulder. It's like the weirdest thing because I think girls like it when guys cry in general like as a viewer I like watching Will cry but I don't want the guy that I'm with to be like I wouldn't be attracted to that

like if he was sitting next to me and he was about to make out with me you know yeah he'll learn yeah so speaking of like egos i have this sense that tyler norris who's coming in this week may have grown a little bit of one am i wrong oh i don't know i mean he kind of got a bad rap last season if i'm being honest um i think he got a little bit blindsided and listen, he was a really sweet guy last season and, yeah, I don't, I would say, I don't think so. Okay, okay, that's good. To me, he's the same guy.

He's like very much a hot commodity, which I totally understand. He's a very cute, good-looking guy. And he also kind of knows this world better than most, you know, like a lot of people, this is their first time on the beach. So he kind of is able to come in with some knowledge about, like, how to navigate these things. And he got burned last time. So I think he knows what to look for and what not to look for. But no, I wouldn't say he comes in with, like, arrogance or, like, over ego. Okay, okay.

Because I wasn't sure if he was just walking down and being like, ah, I know, I'm here. Everybody's excited. Well, yeah. I mean, I think he knows he's an attractive guy, but here's the thing. So is everybody else there. I know, I know. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam.

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's

former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.

But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. My name is Ed.

Everyone say hello, Ed. from a very rural background myself my dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin so like it's not like what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke

but that really was my reality nine years ago I just normally do straight stand-up but this is a bit different on stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear 22nd of July 2015 a 23 year old man had killed his family.

And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Because it's another person that is on my list as like, I'm not really sure how to vibe him. Oh, vibe him. Yeah, there you go. He is a very nice guy. Comes from like a very good family. Chooses his words very wisely. He's very smart, well-spoken.

He's also like a very religious guy. like his his um his faith is an important thing and he's just a stand-up dude he's also very tall he he's like six six he's the tallest guy that we have there um yeah i i really like he is he's an adult if i can say yeah but but he but like him and i our energies are not the same like i'm always like trying to crack jokes and like messing around he's a very serious person okay So that's probably why I may not vibe him to the TV. Because, like, I just don't know that we would, like, have fun conversations. But not to say that he's not a nice guy.

Yeah, I think he's a lovely person. Yeah. He's just like, yeah, like, I don't know if I'd, like, go to the bar with him, like, get drunk and, like, mess around. Like, you know, I don't know. See, it's because he doesn't smile. That kind of makes me nervous. Yeah. Yeah. He's not a smiley guy at all.

Yeah. But maturity, we have this fight between Aaron S and Peter. Yeah. total opposites to Aaron B then, right? Yeah, that wasn't very interesting ordeal. I saw that whole thing go down. Okay, so, and I've had some time to think about it, because in real time, I was just like,

this is just bonkers what's happening here. Okay, so there's a couple things. When, and you probably remember this, and by doing the show, you can, you see it happen every season. whoever has the roses whether it's the guys or the girls in this case it was the guys who had the roses

in that particular night where the head was like dancing and like doing that weird thing the people who have the roses get a little power hungry if you will like they know that they have the power

they know the girls need to come to them you know and it's always a bad look and I always at the bar I'm like, this is not a smart thing. Because you know what, tomorrow, you're not going to have the roses, but everyone's going to remember that you were like, ladies come to me. Yeah.

And so I think there's a little bit of that with Peter. Like, he's like, the ladies need to come to me. Mm-hmm. But it's interesting about what happens. He had the only rose up for grabs. Yes. What's interesting to me is that he actively goes after Sam, who is being pursued by Erin Ness, right?

Mm-hmm. so all the girls are coming after him he's like but there's one girl that's not coming after me that so i don't know if it was like an ego thing that he was like oh yeah to talk to her as well but then i also understand like we're you know this is the second second rose ceremony first i don't even know that was the first row ceremony yeah so it's so early where i can understand him being like i'm talking to everybody you know like i deserve to be able to chat with everybody and also like Aaron has how close are you really with Sam? I don't know if I believe it.

So I understand both sides. I also think that I might have had something to do with that. I think I made him a couple drinks and then he starts dancing like a crazy person behind them. And that's, to me, seems like a well's issue that I did to him. I'm not 100% sure on that. But I do think it was funny. Like it was funny. It was weird though, too.

it was funny and then it was like okay this is ridiculous yeah i'm gonna days out now that's like one of those fights that i like days out in and then like if so this never really happened when i was on the show and you very rarely see it when someone comes and pulls usually it's like okay see you later i'm gonna go when someone says like give me a couple more minutes that that's when you know you're like oh no oh yeah yeah i didn't i shouldn't have done this yeah but peter did not feel that way at all he had like puller's remorse and he was just like no I'm gonna dance and whatever uh yes it was it was a weird a weird thing that happened and also Samlik wasn't feeling it I don't think you know yeah Peter ends up giving his rose to Olivia who scares me a little bit what she like in

real life uh she is scary I was I was gonna say you're gonna be like Ashley you would be very scared by her Yeah, you're spot on with everybody so far. Oh my gosh. Yeah. She is, she's very honest. And which makes her fantastic in the interview chair. Like when I watch a show back, like she is so, so good. But yeah, she does freak me out a little bit.

Did she ever say anything to you that made you uncomfortable? No. I'll tell this story because it is funny. She complained about my drinks a lot. And she always said that they were too alcoholic. Oh, I hear that usually people complain the opposite. Exactly. Like by law or like my bachelor law.

By bachelor law, like I can't make very stiff drinks. Like I'm, you know, like there's liability on my shoulders about like making sure everyone stays pretty sober. So I'm not making very stiff drinks. And yeah, if there's ever. really complain about me. It's, dude, this is the weakest drink I've ever had. And it's like, what do you want me to do, man? We're making a TV show and we don't want you falling down drunk. And so she would complain about my drinks being too alcoholic. And I was like, I, I'm sorry, like, they're not that alcohol. I don't know what to tell you. And so it kept up. And I started

to get like a little offended, you know, like I don't make terrible drinks. I mean, I'm not like the best mixologist in the world, but I'm not the worst either. And also like a margarita is not too hard to make. So she asks for a drink one time. And I went to a camera person and I went to a sound guy. I said, hey, I know you're not on us right now. Like they were filming like other conversations, but I was like, can you put a camera on me right now?

I love, I feel like I've done that before. I'd be like, you're missing good stuff. Yeah, like over here. So I was like, hey, watch me, film me make this drink. so I make her a mocktail right so there's no alcohol in it whatsoever and I shake it up like I am making a real drink and of course the bartender

the camera guy is like I don't know what I'm filming here but whatever and so I give her the drink and like without missing a beat she goes oh so alcoholic and I go you want to know what's funny and she goes what and I go there's no alcohol in that drink And she goes, she would say this thing a lot.

She goes, real back the tapes, real back the tapes. And I knew she was going to say it. So I say, oh, do you see why this camera guy's on me right now? It's because he filmed me making this drink to prove to you that you have no idea what alcohol tastes like. And she like wouldn't believe it. And so finally, someone else was there. I can't remember who it was. And they're like, try this.

It's so alcoholic. And someone drank it and was like, that's pineapple juice. that's so good there was obviously some ingredient that you were putting in there that she wasn't used to tasting in regular life yeah i don't think so i think it was probably lime juice if i'm being honest with you which is a very important ingredient in all mexican drinks that is such a good story thank you so much for sharing that yeah my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam.

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.

Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes,

not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free I-HeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now.

My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into... a comedy club. I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality

nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true producer walks into a comedy club, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, sis, what if I could promise you you never had to listen to a condescending finance bro? Tell you how to manage your money again. Welcome to Brown Ambition. This is the hard part when you pay down those credit cards. If you haven't gotten to the body,

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avoiding it. And in fact, it may get even worse. For more judgment-free money advice, listen to Brown Ambition on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay, so other people that I want to talk about, like, their vibes, the vibe checks. Jess is with Blake and this is an unexpected pairing for me just because when she was on our podcast she seemed very innocent and very religious

now he has not come across that way to me and other prior shows what's he like in real life and what's their dynamic like okay Blake is probably too smart to be on this show if I'm being honest with you

like he gets but he's also been on enough that like he kind of gets it I remember there was a fight going down and no one had cameras on it and he like pulled his mic and was like, is someone on this fight over there? Okay, so he's us, all right.

Yeah, he's smart. But here's like, I don't know about his like how religious he is in comparison to Jess, but he is a very good man. Like his work is, you know, virtuous and he believes in what he does and he's Canadian. so, like, he's obviously very sweet and nice and says sorry too often.

Does he say sorry? Yeah. So, sorry, yeah. Does he say it? Yeah, you can hear. He's got some Canadians. I don't hear any Canadians from him usually. Yeah, keep watching.

It'll happen. I mean, when it happened, between him and Jess, like, I wonder, I'm confused with Jess. because she is a woman. She's, you know, 22, 23 years old. But then she does have these, like, very, like, qualities to her, you know, like the glitter. And, like, she's always kind of very nervous and timid. And I just, I always wonder if she's, like, truly ready for what this is, which is, like, a buildup to an engagement, you know? And I wonder how many, like, serious relationships.

she's been in because she is so sweet and innocent. And so into that respect, like Blake obviously has proven himself over and over and over and over and over again as a guy who like is ready to like go to the next step. Like, oh, he even got engaged, right? And I wonder if she's there like emotionally, you know, or like, or it's like maybe a couple years down the road for her. I'm not really sure but they're both like the nicest people

I've ever met and I'm rooting for him. She loves Taylor Swift as you know all of us do except for she's going through a little bit of an overexposure phase and I'm a little bit tired I think it's real there's a part of me that thinks it's all fake why would she need any fake PR

the Travis Kelsey's I don't I just it just doesn't seem it seems very like I don't know like for some reason So that's why I, that's why I'm like kind of like in a, I need to like give myself a Taylor break right now because everything seems calculated. The Sophie Turner stuff is extremely calculated. So I'm just like, okay, well, it's just anyway, but let's get to back to the, the Taylor Swift. So many Swifties just, just, I know, I'm sorry.

I haven't even like, I know, right? I haven't really even expressed a lot of these feelings because it's like so divisive. But it's like, you guys, I love Taylor Swift. she's honestly my favorite artist of all time musically, even though one time I told you it was Hansen. Of course, it's also Hansen, but as far as a whole collection,

it's probably Taylor. Her collection is just massive. Anyway, the Taylor Swift of the Bachelor franchise is apparently Hannah Brown. I feel like she's Jesus Christ like. So did you think that there was an overreaction? Yeah, like

the second coming of Christ came to paradise. It was very odd. yeah I was I think it was a it was a big overreaction like she's lovely and she I think she probably is one of the best bachelettes we've ever had so like I totally understand the fanfare of it all but I did think it was so funny

how like you know like everyone was like oh it's Hannah Brent like all these women who are all tens they're all absolutely gorgeous being like I should just leave now and you're like what are you talking about? I told Ben last week

I actually kind of relate there is something about Hannah Brown that is very intimidating to me and I think it's just because there's something about our personality that I said that I can't put a I can't pinpoint what it is but there's a quality about her personality that I'm jealous of and I want to be yeah in the same way that I feel I guess about Taylor yeah and I can totally see that and she had so many iconic moments especially ones being like a very strong woman yeah on the show like moving the rose stand and everything like that's so very iconic and she's and like her nickname is the beast like it's it's i totally get it my the thing that i kind of didn't love about it was

rachel's there and she also is the bachelette and like people don't weren't like freaking up they were kind of but there was a part of me that was like it i don't love how this looks to me you know like there is another bachelorette here who also is a badass and of whom I love dearly and so yeah it was it was very interesting thing but I get it like she was on TV a lot so I can see how a lot of people are very like star struck by it yeah she's also dancing with the stars winner special forces winner she's a winner she won that yeah is that over no that was the first season she won the first one yeah yeah yeah so then um How did you feel about the fact that they made it seem like she was single and there to date for a second? Because I think that was the issue that we had. We're like, this is so, this is dumb. Like, everybody knows she's with someone. My favorite thing was like, Jesse, you know, at the top of the Paradise Gates being like,

Hannah? Yeah. What are you doing here? It's like, Jesse, come on, man. You know who's coming. Yeah. Because you have to like prep your questions. Yeah.

Because the bit was We know she's coming But we don't know why she's coming Right So I thought that was very Very funny of Jesse be like I can't believe it Where you're like

Of course come on You know she's here I know Do you know who's coming Before you go on No And that's always nice though Because they'll be like

A producer will be like Okay go down It'll like mic me up And they'll be like We're sending everyone there Lots happened get the download. So then I can also use that as a way for them to do recaps. They don't use it very often. But a lot of times I'm like, all right, tell me what's going on.

So then someone's like, okay, this happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like the whole, the whole bit of like, is she here to date? Here she here to not. And I liked how I'm sure she was like my fiance, I think she was engaged at. Yeah, she wasn't engaged yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or my boyfriend might feel uncomfortable about this, but just pulling one guy. So I'm going to pull two guys. So you know so the optics are a little bit better um but yeah the people there that were like that knew what her story was at the time knew i think feel like knew that she wasn't there to date anybody but the guys like i feel like sean was like he was the first one who popped up he's like hey how's it i know they were being so naive i know i like i loved her coming there here's what i loved

I loved the bit. Like the whole thing was like she got a lot of really juicy stuff out of them. She did. All those questions were very, very good, made it very, very awkward for everybody. So like I love the idea of the fireside chat that she got all that stuff out of them. I don't even know if I needed the like, is she here to date or is she not? You know, like I think that's just more of like the sizzle real promo stuff. Okay.

Well, she's a Taylor Swift. of the franchise, then who's the Travis Kelsey? Jesse, I guess. I don't know. Well, we'll have to think about this. Ben? Could be Ben. But now...

Ben is beloved. Yeah, but is Travis Kelsey beloved? Like, we need somebody who's like a little obnoxious. In Kansas City. A little, like, big. Tyler Cameron? Yeah, it could be more like Tyler. Not that Tyler's not obnoxious, but you know,

it's just like the fandomony. him around him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably Tyler, which hilariously, you know, there's the two of them. I know. Together, that made

literally headlines almost as big as the Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey stuff. Right? Mm-hmm. All right, I know we have to let you go

in a second, but let's just talk about Katie Thurson's arrival, which we do think is happening soon. She's on our podcast last week, and it really seems as if she's there to date. I was thinking she was coming down

as a Hannah Brown situation was going to lead some date, but she's teasing that she might be having fun down there. Yeah, I mean, obviously I can't tell you what the answer is to that question. But like we're having more bachelorette come this season than we've ever had. Well, yeah, you said that last time. And I was like, Wells, what are you talking about? There's only Rachel there to date thinking that Katie was just going to go walk down the stairs and do something, you know, inconsequential.

Yeah. Well, here's the thing. Like, we know that she is single because she's, She's also on like another reality TV dating show, right? Like so she's up for the challenge, I suppose, but you'll have to wait and see about that. But I will say this, we do a fun thing with everybody that includes Katie and myself and Jesse when she gets there. So that's going to be a really fun episode for everyone to watch. Now you're throwing me off again.

I don't know. We'll see. She said that Blake turned white as a ghost when they saw each other. He was not pleased that that was happening. And I don't know, I could be wrong about this, but I think that they hadn't spoken for two years. Yeah.

So it was, can you imagine like running into your ex and you haven't spoken in two years? And then there's a camera in front of you? Yeah. Man, nightmare fuel. Yeah. And they didn't end in what seems to be the best situation. Yeah, I don't think.

Because she went on and dated John right away. Yeah, and then bottom of van and I don't know. That's weird. All right, Wells. Well, thank you so much, full of insight and interesting tidbits. We really appreciate you. Yeah, good to see you. Tell Jared, I say hi.

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