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Everybody, I'm one of your hosts, Brian Austin Green, and I'm really excited for my guest today, who is literally redefining herself in Chapter 2. You know her from roles in movies like the American Pie franchise, Scary Movie. She has an incredible foundation helping wildlife in South Africa. She just got divorced this week, not kidding. And we're going to dive into that and so much more. So here she is, Shannon Elizabeth. I can't believe that we've never met before, right?

I don't think so, but I feel like we should have. Isn't that bananas? I was thinking about that. I was like, how is that possible? Like, we met everyone during that time period. What was the thing? time frame of the American Pie movies. That was like... 99. 99 was the first one and...

So our show was already sinking at that point. So that's why we never met. Because our ratings were going to as you guys were just like blowing up. That explains. Yeah, it's... Yeah, I don't... It's fine. Not to put you on the spot or anything. So yeah, that's usually... And it's funny, too, like the business was so much more segregated at that point. It was like you were either film or you were TV. And TV always wanted to do film. Film never wanted to do TV.

Film was like, no, no, no, forget it. Like, this is, this is the life. I like being a movie starred. TV is beneath me, which it felt like it was. Now it's all opposite. Now everybody wants to do a series. field has evened out. And people realize, I think, if I want to have a family and I want to be around, I need to do a show that is set kind of in one place compared to traveling all over the world,

doing stuff. And I mean, there's not a lot of sitcoms anymore, but doing this sitcom was amazing. Like, there was no better schedule than a big off. Yeah. I did. I did a couple, I did a couple sitcom things that were like just game changers. They were so easy. It was so great. But like being on a lot, having like specific hours and all that, it was unbelievable. I mean, yeah, especially if you lived close to the lot. If you live nearby, it's like... Just all of it. Like honestly, the lot is close no matter what now. Like it compared to having to fly to Canada to shoot everything or, you know, Bulgaria or all over the place. Well, do you know where I am right now?

You're in South Africa right now, right? Yeah, I live there. Yeah, I pretty much live here. Yeah, I do. Do you, what do you travel back to the states for at this point? Like just to buy groceries? No. There's a Whole Foods in Texas I really love.

Well, I love Whole Foods, yeah. Anywhere. I travel back for jobs. I travel back for appearances for my fundraiser at the end of June. So things like that, you know, and seeing family and friends. But I mean, there's lots of reasons to travel back. Families all here, right? Where are you from originally?

I'm from Texas originally. In Texas. But the only, I mean, I have lots of aunts and uncles and cousins. And my cousin in New York is like a sister to me. So I probably see her most of anyone. So when I travel back, a lot of times I'll stay with her. And we're always looking for ways to work together and do things together because, you know, she doesn't have a sister.

I don't have any brothers or sisters. So it's kind of, you're an only child. I am. That's scary. Amazing. So I have an older brother and an older sister, but they're from my mom's first marriage. And there's a nine year age difference between my sister, who I'm the closest with. So I grew up feeling like an only child also.

So I get, I understand that. Can we, so I, I, it just didn't doing research on you, there was so much about you that I didn't know. So then you bringing up like, oh, I'm in South Africa right now. It's like, okay, yeah, let's go there first. Like this is really interesting. So this show is, I don't know if you've ever listened to. to it or checked it out. It's, I do part two. And to me, the concept of this show is people that have, like, lived these full lives and have experienced things and then kind of go in after the

first time where things have gone a bit sideways and they start sharing these lessons that they've learned and sharing who they are and how they've grown. But then we all were sort of a community, so we grow together. Okay, only child, born and raised in Texas. How many pets did you have when you were a kid? One. Well, there was a moment where I had a bird as well. Somebody gave me a bird. But then the bird died.

And my parents had a poodle, like a miniature poodle when I was born. And they would never allow me to have more animals. Did you want more animals, though? Yeah. I would cry and be like, when I grew up, I would have tons of animals around me. I'm going to have like a farm of animals. That was always my threat to them. Cut to rhinos and all that.

Well, when I lived in L.A. and I started my charity, I had seven dogs at any given time. I always had seven dogs in my house. Like rescues? Like you were fostering? No, they became mine. So I did, I would foster.

And sometimes animals, it kind of, it was weird because it started out that we would foster these animals. or we would find an animal. And then somebody, a friend would come over and be like, oh, that's a cool dog. And we're like, do you want them? You know, and that's kind of how it started.

That's how the rescuing kind of started. It was like, oh, you like this dog. Do you want a dog? And they would take them. And it just kind of naturally developed from there. And then, you know, they just became, you just kind of knew when it was your core animal or a rescue that was going to move on to another home, you know.

But it was always sad. So I have one dog sitting next to me right now in the chair next to me. So what's really funny is my fiancé, before me, she owned a house off of Beachwood, just under the Hollywood sign. And it was her and her two dogs that she had rescued. And she lived this very simple life, but she would, like, foster dogs all the time. That was a big part of everything for her. And then we ended up together.

She now, we had a baby together, but I already had four kids. So all of a sudden she had this like massive family. And then when she decided she wanted to foster, it was like, we've got to, we already had three dogs. Like this has to fit into our world, which is, it's difficult because foster dogs sometimes have a lot of issues from, you know, like, previous traumas and things that they this one here we have two little dogs and one named daisy um that is she's i love daisy but she is so complicated like there's just so much going on in her head

and she is like constantly growling and sort of snapping and worried that somebody's going to hurt her so she's got that little dog syndrome plus she's getting old now so her hearing is going which just makes it twice as worse. She's running around the house and she's panicking thinking she wants to find you and you call her name, but she doesn't even hear you. She just keeps running in the opposite direction. So we foster dogs that were pregnant and had puppies and we ended up having these puppies and we have a bunch of friends that have them now that adopted them.

And we love them. But it is it is a choice. to go the route of animal activism. I mean, can we jump into your, I don't want to say personal life, because it's not, but because this show is, I do part two.

Like, I want to get into relationship stuff a little bit because I think people need all the help they can get. I know I did. Like, I, you know, I just sort of, I learned it was trial by fire for me. So you were, you were not,

You were not married at the point when you moved to South Africa. That was, you were married before then? No. So, I was married in early 2000s for a few. So I was with a guy named Joe, who is now my manager. Yes. Yeah, I think the people that actually put this together, they spoke to him all, which is fantastic. I love that you guys have that.

Joe actually was on 90210 for an episode because he's an accident. Very? Yeah. You're kidding. He was. That's so great. He got cut out. He got cut out because it was a controversial episode and they were.

It was the 90s. Yeah. Yeah. They were worried about it. But that was one of his first jobs, he had said. That's hysterical. So we were together for 10 years. So we were together for seven before we got married and then married for three.

And then that, then I. I dated way too much. And then I moved to South Africa. I'm just skipping over. I moved to South Africa. And then I met someone here and got married and just got divorced and it got finalized two days ago. Congratulations. Is that a good thing?

Are you happy about that? Yes. Yes. That is absolutely congratulations. And that's the end of my dating. I'm done. Is it? Yeah.

I don't see me dating ever again. not for a very long time or not on purpose. Yeah, no, I'm absolutely not getting married again. And I just, I don't have, I don't have any desire right now to date. Like, I don't. Do you feel like your, your picker is broken at all? Like, what do you think? Because it's, it's hard.

Like, I get it. I have, again, five kids, three different mothers. And I went through two relationships. one, we were married for almost 10 years, very public divorce. And I remember at one point going, thinking, God, I am, like, I'm the common denominator with everything that's gone wrong. So I have to accept some sort of responsibility because I didn't want to be single the rest of my life.

And I didn't want to carry into my next relationship. What I had done, what I felt my part, was in the first two relationships that didn't work. Have you had any of that or are you just sort of like, I just want to focus on what I'm doing now and I'll get to that later. What do you mean? Have any like working on myself? Yeah.

Like do you, is there are, do you have, do you feel like you're in a place where you want to work on yourself to better yourself for the next relationship? Or do you feel like I just want to work on myself to be the best conservationist I can be right now and the best human being? on my own. I had a lot of working on myself after my first relationship after I did all that dating. I did a lot of work on myself. So after I went a little wild and crazy, I did a lot of work. And I definitely did a lot wrong in that relationship and it took a lot of responsibility for that eventually. That was 100% on me. This last- Not 100%. It was never 100%. Well, it's two people in a

relationship. So I feel like there are, each person triggers each other and then it triggers the worst in people. And I'm sure you could have made a ton of mistakes and done things, but never 100% you. I don't think. But go ahead. Sorry. Yeah. I mean, I'm taking responsibility for it, though. Like he knows. We've talked about it. And I acknowledge that I did a lot wrong. I was, for whatever a reason, I just wasn't, I wasn't myself, to be honest. Like, I just wasn't, that wasn't me. I wasn't myself. That wasn't authentically who I am. And I think that's why now we are best friends and we could come back to working together and loving each other in a different way. How could you possibly authentically be you, though? Like how, there's nothing authentic about what it is we do professionally.

Like there is, it's a very weird place to be. And especially because you were young, I was, like, it's not, there is, what, who do you possibly meet or ask questions to, to get any sort of like good perspective on it? It's a very upside down, crazy world to be in. So I feel like, like, I, not to preach to you, but like, people have to give themselves a little grace sometimes in growing and figuring something out. And the world that we're in that we live in professionally is not a normal, healthy place to be. And you can make a lot of wrong turns if you allow yourself. Yeah. No, absolutely. And I think I definitely had those moments

where I just went off the rails, you know? And I have a lot of regrets from back then. And I've worked really hard to try to make amends to things that I did and said and the ways I acted. And I'm not proud of that period of time at all. I think, I mean, like regrets are, I regrets are, to me, are good if you recognize them as periods of growth. Like, I don't, to me, any of the failures that I had in my life leading up to now, all of them created who I am now. so I wouldn't change any of them.

But I definitely look back and I go, boy, that wasn't handled well. I definitely could have been better in this situation. I could, but I love them now. Like I embrace all of them because they all have, look at you. Look at the life that you're living and look at what you're doing and the betterment that you are providing to the world.

but it's all of those, all of those crazy missteps. It's, you know, it's you from American Pie. It's like all of the stuff that you went through leading to who you are now, which is, which is really amazing. Well, thank you for that. I mean, that's very sweet. But I do have the regrets and I would change things. And I think I would still be, I would still be where I was supposed to be now, whether it would just,

I would have gotten here. in a different path. I would have taken a different road, a different yellow brick road. I would have gone a different direction, but it would still have led to the same place, I think. I think it had to. You know, I feel like I was supposed to be here no matter what.

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Like, if you could, looking back on the 25-year-old Shannon, And like what would you, what advice would you give her now compared to the way you were living then? I don't know, to be honest, as far as like the relationship side of it goes, you know. I think there was a part of me that always thought I was missing out on something, that the grass was always greener, that there was always something else out there was supposed to be doing. and it's just not the case. And I don't really know how to answer that, to be honest. I think I just, I went through a very dark period.

I think like attracts like. And when I started going through a bad time, I was attracting a lot of bad things. And likewise, if you're in a good place, you attract good things. And that's why it's so important to try to always be energetically. such a good place. So it's, you know, when people say, oh, one thing goes wrong, everything goes wrong. Well, yeah, because you're attracting other things in that low vibration. That's exactly right. Especially if you're putting that energy out. Like if you're, if you believe in manifesting at all,

which I do is like, if you're putting out nothing but negative energy, that's what you're going attract. Like you attract exactly. That is what you, to me, that's what you have control over. Like, that is the control in your life. All the rest of it is. is bananas all the time and it will be your entire go at it. The only thing that we have control over are these choices that we make in how we deal with them, who we are, how people experience us. And whether we see the silver lining and everything or we just sort of fade into the tough situations.

Yeah. Yeah. I think there's a lesson in everything. I do believe everything happens for a reason. It doesn't mean that I don't wish I could go back and change some of the things that I went through and that I've done. There are definitely pivotal moments that change things in my life and in my career that I would love to know had I gone a different way what things would be like. You know, and one day I probably will put it all in a book. You know, I think there's a lot of things that I feel like more and more I,

I'm getting closer to being able to talk about them. It's tough because, you know, we're in an industry. When you start talking about things, it does involve other people in the industry. And what are you allowed to say? What do you want to say? What are you, who are you protecting? Like, and at some point, you just want to let it all out and release it.

Sure. Yeah, transparency is tough, for sure. It's really hard to know what to get into. not like I am I'm in a place now where I definitely share more than I ever did but at the same time you're right like there's a part of me that is like is that going too far am I implicating somebody that's not ready to get into it on their side like you know it's you do you do edit yourself and the things you you talk about a little bit which sucks it's it's not a great feeling because then you're not getting everything out yeah I mean there's definitely things

Steve blasts me about that I have to lie. I have to be like, oh, I don't. Get everything out in a book. Like, I can't. Writing a book terrifies me because it's like, oh, man, do I really want to, like, because those words on page, those are truly forever. Like, I can change my mind in interviews and go in different directions and people sort of see the evolution of me compared to, like, how many books am I going to write?

You know, like, I may write, too. And at that point, it's like, you've only seen two iterations of me on paper. I'm much more of like, I'll just choose to do interviews and talk about things. See, but with the interviews, sometimes, I mean, for me, I say the wrong thing. And then I, like, stress about it until it comes out. I'm like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have said that. Oh, why did I say that? Like, there's nothing I can do.

I've lost control. A book, at least I can go back and I can edit it. I can have a lawyer look at it. I can like, okay, get it to the point where I'm like, I've sat with it for two years before I decided. Interviews, though, you can take your time when you're speaking to people. Like most of the interviews that we do aren't live. So it's like, take your time.

If you have to think about a question for five minutes, you think about it for five minutes. You know, if somebody needs to cut it out for time, then they do. If it's a print interview, it doesn't matter anyway. They're just literally going from answer to answer to answer. but yeah it's a very uh it's a weird it's a weird kind of fish bowl thing that we i mean especially now for you like all of the attention that you're getting with only fans is it's mind blowing well like were you expecting at all to have the attention that you're that you're getting not no at all no and no idea no idea

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Cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from a Hypocrite as part of the Mike Coultera podcast network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So I'm engaged, so I don't have any only fans subscriptions. I didn't either. Yeah. So like I can't even say, oh, well, so I've watched your content.

So here's how it differs from other things that you would imagine. But from what I've read, you're very specific of like, no, this is a piece of my life that people don't normally, normally get. Do you feel like that has been therapeutic in some way because people get to see like an authentic part of you where you don't feel. quite as worried about what you put out? Or do you feel like you're much more, much more controlled and you're much more careful now of what it is you say and then? It's starting to allow me to drop my walls a little bit. You know, whereas everything was always had to be so perfectly done

and so perfectly manicured and so perfectly put together. And the more I do this, the more I'm like, oh, it doesn't matter. I can do this with no makeup. I can do this without like, as I go to bed, as I wake up in the morning, like I'm getting used to being able to share and not care as much. I still care, but it's allowing me to get more comfortable with myself in a weird way. Like, it's helping me. It makes sense.

Like being authentic is, it's crazy. it's counterintuitive. You would assume that people would not connect with you the same way if you're not perfect all the time when you're on camera and you're not saying all the right things. But the reality is people connect more with you when you are human and you are absolutely yourself in all moments, whether they're flawed or not.

People really love authentic people because then they feel like, oh, okay, they're normal people. just like I am. So it's it's sort of it levels the playing field a little bit. It seems like the more when I got to a point where I was like, okay, I'm a little more willing to share and just kind of be open and honest. People responded really well to it. I was like, oh man, this is addicting. It feels good to not worry so much. It makes life way simpler. I put so much stress on my life. and I've made life so much more complicated than it ever had to be. It's the same way, though, with dating for me.

It's when I got to the point where I was dating again, I was like, God, I'm going to stop putting on the mask of like what I assume people would love and all of that and that whole honeymoon period. I'm going to not have any of that. I'm just going to be me from the get-go. And if you don't like me, I don't want to waste my time doing this and being in something new. I've got so much other shit going on.

Like, you know, you have rhinos to save. I have kids to raise. Like, I don't know. We have way bigger lives than, you know, dating or being in a relationship with somebody. I want to find somebody that matches the life that I'm already living that I can then have as a teammate through it all. Yeah. Do you feel like you, do you feel like you want that? again eventually or like you're fine without it right now and you're really set in who you are

and what you're doing. I'm absolutely fine without it. I don't feel like I need it. I feel more myself, more alive, more free. I don't feel like I'm missing anything. In fact, I feel just the opposite and having this freedom now to, I mean, hanging out with my girlfriends. It's just for me, I It's just as fulfilling as hanging out with a partner, if not more so. Because you're finding yourself and you're not putting any other pressure of like how, how am I being perceived by the other person that I'm with right now? And yeah, it's a it's a completely different situation. And I think it's important for people to,

um, to like really cherish that time when they are single and alone to really find themselves and find again who you love being. So then when you go into, the next relationship, which for me was totally unplanned. I wasn't dating. I wasn't actively searching for somebody. It just worked out that way. I ended up meeting someone that I had so much in common with naturally. It was like, oh, I can, let's hang out. Like, let's see, you know, why, like, we should just absolutely be friends. And then it went from friends to just, we have an

amazing relationship. But it's, I think it's important to do that. I think people, that don't spend time with themselves and with their friends, they really miss out on that finding of who they truly are with their friends and by themselves and waking up in the morning and doing your own things. I think they're short-changing themselves, and then they go into a new relationship, putting too much on this other partner. you depend on the other person too much compared to like you figured out how to do it yourself I don't really need you to do any of this stuff but let's just do it together it's let's just share

all of these things yeah I mean I don't see me going into another relationship ever so I'm not looking for you know I I'm I've got my charity my charity work that I'm doing I've got my friends I've I've got acting. I've got now only fans and all, like, connecting with all of my fans that way. My life is full. I don't even have time or room for a partner. I don't want one. I'm so happy the way things are right now. I've got my cousin who's like a sister to me and we're looking to do things together. Like, they're just, I don't have time for a partner. It means I would neglect doing the things that I'm loving doing right now. So, yeah. I'm good. You're also just two days out of divorce. So I'm sure, I'm sure there's a part of you, too,

that's like, whew, like, I'm free of this. Thank goodness. Yeah. It's a whole different feeling sitting in your home. But it's amazing. I mean, that is a, that's, I, I envy that for sure. And I think that's a great place to be in. You can't envy that because you're engaged. Well, but never, but never say never to a relationship. But I do envy that feeling. Luckily, yeah, no, I am engaged. And we're in a place now where we are, we're able to really sort of find ourselves still. But we're just partners in doing it.

So I don't, I'm not alone now in this search for life and the things I want to do and the things I want to accomplish. and lives I want to change in a positive way. She's very much aligned with me that way. So we're just really realizing now that it's like, oh, power and numbers. We can do so much more together than we can do separated. Well, that's amazing. You found that.

Congratulations, because that's not easy to find. I'm sure you guys to be together in past lives if you're like disconnected now. So you've been together lifetime after life time. Yeah, I for sure, for sure feel that way. It's funny, what you were talking about before, that all of a sudden, when my marriage ended, and I wasn't really dating,

but I was just sort of living life, and I was raising my kids and all that. Australian women started coming in my life in random ways, and I was like, I've never once been friends with an Australian, like I've never dated an Australian woman. This doesn't make any sense to me. And then at the point when my business manager was like, oh, I've got a client that I think you should meet.

You guys just remind me a lot of each other when I'm with either one of you. And I met her and she was Australian. I was like, what the fuck is? Like, what is it about Australia? But okay, this is like, I'm going to trust. The universe wants this for me now. This is a new space I'm supposed to be in. Yeah.

Like all, you know, hands down. cool, let's go. Let's do this. And it's been such an amazing relationship because it's opened my eyes to a different way of viewing the world and a different way of really honoring people that are around me. We have just an unbelievable relationship. Sharna is her name and I love her more than I've ever loved anybody in my life. Aside from my kids. Yeah, Dancing with the Star.

Oh yeah, I know who that is. That's amazing. Oh, you know, Sharna? I don't remember if she was on when I was on. Oh, wait, you did the show? Yeah, season six. So it was a long time ago. So I don't think she was on yet, but I know of her because of the show. Yeah. Yeah. So we have been, we've been together for almost five years now. It's unbelievable. We met during COVID. We had a business manager in common who suggested we meet each other. And this person is not. like she is not somebody that normally sets people up like that's not her mo you wouldn't meet her and go ooh matchmaker this one you know she's like great at her job and what she does with money in it so she's very we very much were like oh she's great with that so when she suggested it it was like oh that's interesting okay sure so we ended up meeting for coffee and we had this amazing six-hour conversation but we talked about our strengths or weaknesses, all of it. Like it was very unfiltered because she'd been single for five years at that point.

I had come out of my marriage. I was like, I never again want to make the same mistakes. So I'd been heavy into therapy and sort of working on myself and I'm very much connected with. I'm the common denominator in things that have gone wrong. I want to fix that, if not for a relationship, just for myself. So we were very aligned morally. and we had this amazing conversation.

We never had a honeymoon period where we started seeing each other in these ways of like, oh my God, you don't handle stress very well. You can only maintain the facade for so long before you get into real life. And it's like, oh, man, this is, it's impossible to sustain this, this fantasy that I've painted for someone else. So we never had that. So we've had this amazing relationship. but you have to be in the place where you honestly just don't give a shit at that. Like I didn't care whether in meeting her, there was a love connection or not.

It wasn't like a blind date for me. It was I didn't have my fingers crossed and I was hoping that something would come out of it. I was just like, oh, this is, yeah, let's sit down and have coffee and meet and hang out. And then we left that situation. I was like, oh, that was really amazing. I've never dated someone where it was a six-hour conversation over literally nothing sexual. Like, that was the last thing on my mind. I just wanted to sit down and do it again.

I was like, this is a great connection. This is a really cool thing to have. That's awesome. We had like four more of those before we were even, like, even kissed or like it was just, it was a really cool, cool connection. And I'm, okay, I'm not going to put pressure on you, but I, I think if you continue on the path that you're on, that'll be the next thing for you. Because it seems like you're on that path now.

Yeah, I, sure. Again, no pressure at all. Same. I'm not looking for it. I'm not going to look for it. I feel very full without it. If it's meant to be, then we'll see. But at this point in time, no interest.

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