The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - She Had His Baby
Episode Date: February 20, 2025She's here and she's perfect! Ben & Jess are revealing the intimate details of baby Winona's birth story and it's filled with hilarious stories and a few dramatic moments, too. See omnystudio....com/listener for privacy information.
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Today is the most exciting episode we've ever had because it is Ben and Jess's baby story.
They just got on.
It's the first time I've seen Ben for 12 days, but I said it feels like eternity because
there's been so much that's happened in his life since.
And I also feel like you guys are celebrities right now because, because like, it's like, do I even know you anymore?
No, you don't know us anymore.
Because you're like a whole other purse.
Your two are people.
Okay.
Well, birth stories are my absolute favorite.
I want every single detail of it.
But first, how are you doing?
Well, first of all, I knew that you would want every detail.
So I literally journaled timestamps.
She did.
And we talked about it in the hospital.
She goes, it's going to be so great to talk about this with Ashley because I have everything
timestamped.
Yes.
Like, why do I love birth stories with so much detail?
I think because they're also different.
And like, I want to tell mine now.
Like, I want everyone to ask me about it.
Right.
I totally get it.
It also is just like such a big accomplishment that you like want everyone to know what you've
done, I feel like.
Yeah.
I think that there's definitely because there's a uniqueness to every single one.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah.
But we're doing well.
And everyone is just like, you're right, everyone is like a rocky story.
Well, I don't know if I called mine a rocky story.
I was like, it's too easy.
But okay.
Ready?
Let's go.
Okay.
Well, we checked into the hospital Monday night at 7.30-ish.
I'll add, because we had a plan and the hospital had us at a check-in time, we did something, I would
recommend to every couple that is able that is kind of planning an induction we went to a great
dinner together before we went to the hospital so so cute we had like a little date night and it was
weird because I was like when we leave here we're pulling up to a hospital to have a baby so that's how
we started our evening and then yeah and we checked in Monday Monday night Monday night and I obviously
I wasn't an active labor I was like barely dilated so
So their goal overnight was to get me dilated.
We knew that she was head down.
And so I just got all checked out.
And then they started to give me cytotech to get dilated at like 8.30 that night.
So I got that every four hours.
And I started to have contractions at like 9.30.
But there wasn't any pattern to them or anything like that.
So then they kept trying to put like the balloon in to dilate my cervix faster.
Did you have the epidural in when they put the balloon in?
No.
Why not?
I told you.
My nurse told me she was like, you can do it without an epidural because I wasn't dilated at all.
She was like, if you get an epidural, you like can't get up for who knows how long.
And I'm actually glad I didn't because I ended up laboring for 36 hours.
So I was happy to like be able to get up and stuff.
Okay.
I'm just, this is not my story, obviously.
So I'm just going to chime in with my thoughts a little bit during this.
Yeah, we need the chime in.
Yeah, we're going to put a balloon in to help the dilation.
I'm like, oh, that doesn't sound that aggressive.
Okay, just remember that thought.
Just remember that thought as she continues.
So they tried to put it in at 12 a.m.
And I wasn't ready for it.
But I did get pain management in my IV throughout.
I wasn't like totally toughing it out because it was really aggressive.
And then they tried again at 145, but I still wasn't.
dilated. And then at 4 a.m., they were finally able to get it in. Um, so I'd had like three doses
of the cytotech by then. So we've got the balloon in. So how many centimeters were you? Um,
I was only one to get the balloon in. Holy moly, girl. I know. So then I got another side
attack at 815 to get it even more dilated. And then at like around 10 a.m., they tried to get the
balloon out because it had been in there for six hours and it wasn't ready.
And then they tried again at 1.45 and they only got half of it out.
So then I still had like another half in because it makes like a sandwich around your
cervix.
So the other half was still in.
And so we were basically just like waiting all day.
What did it feel like?
Just like a lot of pressure.
Okay.
And like I was still getting up and going to the bathroom and stuff and it just felt like it just
felt pressure and like there was something stuck up my body which there was did you feel like
were the contractions intense at this point um they weren't it was more like cramping contractions
it wasn't like active active labor okay um it really wasn't that bad we were just sitting around
i don't know why you're asking me i have no idea what's happening you were in there the whole time
i see the same thing i know like it wasn't that bad right yeah or like that part was bad right
Such a blur.
But then at 4, they got the balloon out and I was 4 centimeters dilated and they could feel her head.
And then at 4.30, I started to have like the craziest contraction.
So 4.30 p.m. on Tuesday.
Right.
So you are already like been in bed for almost two full days now.
Almost one.
Yeah, one full day.
Oh, yeah.
It was Monday.
Okay.
Yes.
Yes.
4 p.m. Okay, yeah. Almost 24 hours.
So that Tuesday afternoon, we were just like sitting talking to my parents and all of a sudden
I was getting like the worst pain and contractions ever. And so we called in the nurse to get my
epidural started. And so that's, this is where the action happens. It's been kind of boring up to this
point. Okay. Okay. Because Ben's caption, I wasn't sure if it was all about just the birth of his
daughter being like the craziest adventure or whether there was an adventure to the birth.
There was an adventure.
I'd say no matter what, like now that we've gone through it and I saw just do it, no matter
how good or bad it goes, it is an adventure.
It is the wildest thing I've ever been a part of from start to finish.
The balloon getting removed, even to this day, like seeing why I know,
to come out was wild.
Was it full frontal or above?
I did both.
Oh, you did both. Okay.
But the balloon part was like, when that got removed, I was like, you are a, like, I don't
know how a human being is doing what you're doing because it was so much bigger than I expected
it to be.
God.
And it was like.
Was it like a baby's head?
Yeah, 100%.
And it, like, I don't, I still don't get it.
Like, I meant it when I said, I don't have.
words because like it's the whole thing was just me probably like standing there like I don't
understand and she was just was and I don't think this is like even a compliment so I don't
think it's necessary she was so tough like there was very little like screaming like crying like it was
like this was like this was game day and she was full on like I'm going to make this thing
happen. Yeah. And I was watching it like in pain like my for myself. So okay, she can now go to
where like I say, because I need to know what the epidural was in when they took out the balloon.
No. And I didn't realize. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I didn't realize that it should have been.
No one like really because they came in and they were like, okay, you're definitely ready to get the
balloon out. Like I'm just going to do it. Are you good? And I was like, yeah. Like I didn't think it was
going to be anything. And then my nurse on the shift change was like, you,
didn't get your epidural for the balloon coming out?
I was like, no.
But it was fine.
It was very brief.
Because it was just like, whoop.
Yeah, it just popped right out.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So then I get the epidural.
And this is at 5 p.m.
And the epidural goes in like totally fine.
I, like, I had a great anesthesiologist.
It didn't hurt like I thought it would.
I told you.
I was like, why?
I'm no offense to people who have fears of needles, but you're not looking at it.
No.
Was I right when I said it hurts just as much as maybe a Botox prick in your forehead?
Yes, or like a bee sting.
Like something like that.
Like it's really nothing.
So mild and quick.
Yes, so quick.
But the problem was I had a huge blood pressure drop.
Like I got it in.
And then all of a sudden, Ben said I turned like really, really white.
And I looked at the anesthesiologist.
And I was like, yeah.
Yeah, I was like, I'm super lightheaded.
And I, like, thought I was going to pass out.
And then her blood pressure dropped.
And so we lost her heartbeat for, like, 10 minutes.
So they, like...
Yeah, they flipped me on all fours.
So I'm on all fours in my hospital gown and, like, 10 doctors come rushing in.
It turns out this is, like, very common and not, like, as big of an emergency as we thought it was.
But it was scary.
See, I think you getting on all fours and, like, your blood pressure going down sounds normal.
Her, them not being able to find a heartbeat on.
on her for 10 minutes?
Yeah.
Oh,
wow.
They were getting ready
to roll me back
for a C-section.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they had like a small,
like her,
like Winnie's heart rate
dropped.
Like they could still find it
but it was like
severely low.
And it was this,
I think this is like a
typical dad moment
in the hospital.
So like I,
when we first got to the hospital,
the nurses had like kind of like
we were talking to
them and they're like, you know, I was like, what is a dad's strategy during this whole like
process? And they said, you know, we see it all. We see dads come in, roll in their Xbox,
hook it up to the TV, put their headphones in and never pay attention for like the whole
time. And I'm like, well, that's, that's a little bunch. And then they're like, and then we have
dads that are like hovering, like always like up in our business, like never leaving the
bedside like and they're like that just makes work hard and so like I in my mind was like okay
I need to be present but not hovering um I want to be present but I don't want to like be standing
at just as bedside the whole time because these people know what they're doing so the epidural goes
in and I was sitting in front of Jess like just kind of like that's what they tell you to do
yeah like hanging out with her hold her hand yeah and it was done and everybody's like okay
everything's good and just like just give it a few minutes so she lays back in bed and then like
some other nurses come in and like start like doing some stuff with her so I get up and I walk over
to my sofa bed and um indiana basketball was about to come in so I start logging into my peacock
account and on my iPad and I look up and all of a sudden like there's 10 doctors in the room
and so I remember just looking around like I don't understand what's happening and a nurse comes over and sits
by, I mean, she's like, this is very normal, but, like, you should prepare to get rolled back into, like, the OR.
I'm like, what, what do you mean?
Like, this is normal and we're going to the OR.
So by the time it happened and it was done, I was just kind of like not processing it.
That was kind of a theme for me, I think, for those two days.
It's like, I was slow to process exactly what was happening when it was happening.
Okay.
But all the nurses said that Ben should.
teach a lesson to husbands on how
to be in the delivery room because he was
so awesome. Like, he
was the perfect support
as we would all imagine. Yeah,
I know. No surprise, but
it was the best.
But once my epidural was in
and like I was good, they broke
my water. Yeah.
And I was 90% of face. So like she just like
the heart rate just went back up after you
like changed positions. Yes. So
changed positions. She was fine.
Obviously. Yeah.
here um and i was okay too i was just like a little shaken up yeah but they just like went for it
after that it's it's a uh i mean i'm sure people are going to listen to this and be like oh yeah that
happened to me or i know somebody that happened to it's a like almost like torturous experience
because at this point jessica i had now seen probably an hour before that like her mother bear
coming out like all of a sudden like her mentality changed her like her like
like the way she was going through it changed like she was she was becoming a mom in front like
in front of my eyes and so this like blood pressure drop happens and all of a sudden like I said
it happens so fast that like it kind of feels like an emergency it might probably is considered
an emergency so Jessica's on all fours and she's wondering what is happening I don't feel good my
blood pressure is low and they're starting to talk like hey winnie's blood pressure is low and then
So, like, Jess starts getting anxious, right?
Like, is she okay?
She starts asking, like, is Winnie okay?
Is Winnie okay?
Yeah.
Are you just like, maybe I just want to get the C-section just so I don't have to worry?
Yes, I looked at them and I was like, whatever it takes to get her out healthy, like, do it.
Like, I looked at my nurse and said that.
And she was like noted.
And then to get this problem fixed, they give you a medication to speed up your heart rate.
So you're anxious about your, like, baby and her health.
Like, you're freaking out.
You're scared for the baby.
And then they give you this medication to speed up your heart rate.
So then you get more anxious.
And now I'm anxious because Jess is, like, medically anxious.
She's already anxious, but now she's, like, hyper anxious and, like, scared.
So this whole thing feels like a whirlwind.
And then it's done.
And everybody leaves.
And you're just, it's just like the three of you and you, your nurse, the two of us and
the nurse in the room again and it's like quiet and you're like what just happened that's so funny so
my dad you know he's an anesthesiologist for you guys listening and he has not worked on the once you get to a
certain like point in your career you can kind of decide what kind of cases you want to take and he hasn't
been on the OB floor in at least a decade i always like 15 years because he says it's the most
unpredictable place in the entire hospital and it makes him so nervous because every case is just
he never know what to expect.
and they turn so quickly.
Oh, I totally.
Yeah, 100%.
Like anything, I could have,
anyone can be rolled back at any time, you know?
Like, you just have no idea because it's up to the baby.
And this is when you think, like,
how in the world did we deliver children over 100 years ago?
Like, how did, not even 100 years ago, but like 70 years ago?
Like, how was this a thing?
How are we so lucky to live in this, like, 70 year period?
of this world, because if you needed a C-section back in the 1800s, huh?
No.
I know.
We talked about that so much with our nurse.
Like, what did people do?
I don't know.
It's so wild.
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Okay, so now you're chill.
Yes.
You got your epidural.
They broke your water.
You barely felt that.
Yeah.
And then.
Yeah.
And so now you're just chilling, waiting to dilate more.
Yes.
I have the potassium drift the whole time.
time too. So I'm like having contractions. I was having contractions every two minutes for like 10 hours.
And you had no idea. No idea. Yeah. But at like wait, what time was it? At 10 p.m. My nurse came in and did like a circuit where she changed my positions, like the mile circuit. So you changed positions and she was like massaging my pelvis and just like getting a baby to like move down into my pelvis more. And so we did that for like an hour.
And then I fell asleep.
And then they checked my dilation at 11.
And, or no, they checked my dilation at 11.
And I was seven centimeters dilated.
And the nurse could see Winnie's hair, which is crazy.
And then I fell asleep for an hour and a half.
And at 12.30 a.m. on Wednesday, I was 10 centimeters dilated.
And so we were ready to push.
And when they said, okay, we're ready to push, what were your feelings?
I was so excited.
because we've been there for so long, just, like, waiting.
And, like, I was being poked and prodded and, like, I was just so excited.
But Ben was fast asleep.
So the nurse had to wake him up and woke him up and was like, it's time to push.
And Ben was like, oh, it's so crazy.
When I went to sleep, she was four centimeters.
They'd just broken her water.
And so they're like, hey, if you want to, like, get some sleep, now is your time.
And I was like, when is this like, when do you think this could happen?
They're like, it will happen like early morning.
I'm like, yeah, I'm going to go to sleep.
Like, if everything's good, if she's like, let's like take a nap.
And so when they woke me up, it's like, all right, Ben, it's time to push.
I was, I'll never forget that feeling of like, oh, it's, it's now happening.
Like we are.
And I looked at Jess and she has like this smile and happy tears.
And she's like, are you ready?
And I'm like, I'm ready.
and we just are like,
I guess we're going to go through this
until we have a baby.
Yeah, it's so weird
because it's like so crazy for us.
And then the nurses are like,
we do this multiple times a day.
Yeah.
And it's time.
Let's just,
it's time.
Let's do it.
Yeah, she was like,
are you ready?
Do you want to do it now?
I was like, yeah.
Like, of course.
So, Jess and I kind of had a birth plan
tentatively where I was going to DJ.
Like, I brought a speaker to
DJ the pushing part.
And so there was like a, like Jess would like go through and push and then rest.
And she'd be like, all right, new song, next song, a little, I want a little faster or a little
slower because I started out with like some like real slow.
Like I have this playlist on Spotify that I made for Jess that we like, that she can listen
to anytime she wants to add songs to.
And so, but it's like lovey and slow.
And so I started playing that.
I was like, this will be sweet.
And she's like, no.
we got to speed this up let's get 90s like pop and i'm like okay 90s pop so in sync comes on that works
for a little bit and then we move into like what's going to make people dance on tables and i'm like
all right that playlist let me type that in it's my favorite playlist on Spotify it's like um making
drunk people dance on tables or something like that it's so good but i was it was the middle of the night
i started pushing at 1 30 so i was like falling asleep in between contractions so i had to have like
You had been awake for how long?
Like two days.
I hadn't slept hardly.
I had taken like two, two hour naps maybe.
And then what about eating?
I hadn't eaten in a long time.
Yeah.
You ate right.
You had a cassidia.
Yeah, you had to have a cassidia before my epidural.
Okay.
That was the, it had been quite some time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It had been a while.
So anyways, been DJed.
I pushed for an hour and a half almost.
and she came out to Rihanna singing,
Please Don't Stop the Music.
Yep.
And all the nurses were laughing because she was like wiggling her head.
You could see her like coming out and she was just going like this.
No.
And then there's like, what is she doing?
And she was just like wiggling her head back and forth.
That's hilarious.
I love that.
Yeah.
And then we, I don't know how good of a view you'll have.
We get a great view.
Winnie.
came out at what, 252.3 a.m. at 7 pounds, 3 ounces, 20 inches long.
Amazing. So beautiful and so wonderful. And how was your feeling? I feel like both of you guys
saw heaven. Honestly, yes. The nurses told us that it was like their favorite post-birth moment
they've had because both of us were just like happy tears, excited, couldn't believe it.
like honestly breathless because she came out and like obviously we're biased but she has a really
really cute face and i couldn't believe that that was her face and you were so excited to see her
face oh my gosh i was so excited to see her face and she like her lips were all swollen and she just
like the perfect little baby it was just the best it was wild that's about to cry yeah it was
crazy well the nurse was really sweet to me too because i was more
like interested that I thought I would be like we talked about this right before right before it's
funny how things change like I was more intrigued with what was going on um once it felt like things
were going well and and so the nurse would like clean Jess up in between like pushing moments and then
she'd be like Ben you want to come look and so like she was really sweet and like to Jess and I both like
where I you know she would clean her up we'd get all reset and then she'd be like you should come look
And so, like, I got to see the top of Winnie's head, which was insane to see.
And then, like, as when he got to come out.
But, like, once she's ready to come out, like, it happens so fast.
Like, they don't tell you, like, this is going to be the last one.
They're like, you're getting close, Jess.
And then all of a sudden there's a baby, like, wailing.
And they're holding her up.
And then they just gave her to Jess.
And, like, they did this.
like when he was wailing and as soon as they laid winnie on jess's chest she stopped
and the two of them just like laid there together for an hour um and it which was incredibly sweet
and so you know they got just like cleaned up and like probably all like my favorite moment though
was everybody leaves then once like the cords cut and like jess's
cleaned up and everything's like red the cord cutting was nothing right bad it was nothing it is
tough it's like thicker than I thought I was um but then it was just winnie jess and I in the room
and I like I think jess and I both had this like massive letdown like I didn't realize how like
stressed I was about the whole situation and then obviously jessica just gave birth so as soon as
everything was good and when he was safe and everything had been done and the room was
quiet like we both just like took this deep breath and we turned on some worship music like real
soft worship music and we all three fell asleep like for a good hour and a half just like as a
family which was like so like it was like a beautifully magical moment because I think everybody
was so tired and like now we were going to start
this journey as a family together.
It was so sweet.
It was really special.
It was like a long waiting process, I feel like my labor was, but it was so good.
Then Jessica says, when we woke up from the nap, she was holding Winnie, and I was like,
how you doing?
She's like, I'd do it again right now for her.
Like, I would go all through this again.
And I was like, that's insane.
Because, like, that one.
I'm assuming you will.
Yeah.
I'm assuming that is the plan.
Yeah.
But I would have like, I would have labored for however long I needed to to have her.
She's like the most perfect thing.
And she's such a good baby.
And she's a week old today.
So we're settled in as a family.
And it's just been like the best thing of her.
So sweet guys.
So when when you were like that whole last bout, like you felt good, right?
like you weren't you were comfortable yes i mean it's crazy if you get an epidural like it's not
painful it's just the pressure so like especially when she was about to come out i was like i have
to keep pushing because the pressure is like so intense but it wasn't like painful and then they
stitch you up when you still have your epidural too so it was awesome mm-hmm totally and then how was
you how did your body feel i think like immediately you're just like relieved you know you don't like
actually like don't even like feel your body like is that kind of a weird description of it no that's
like a perfect description yeah i mean also probably because we have the epidural still like in our
system yes but no baby coming out anymore no um and then afterward you know it kind of hits
next morning yes how did how are you feeling physically right now well i had three tears um all in
different places and one of them i mean is it tm i no it's not tm i tell us all because i couldn't
walk for like three to four weeks after Dawson. But after Hayden, I danced the next day.
It was weird. It's insane. But the doctor, the nurses said that the second baby, they call it a
stop and drop when the, when people are in labor. It's like so fast and easy. Um, it was so,
it was so crazy. I just couldn't believe. I was like, it's going to hit me right? When I'm
dancing in the kitchen the day after. And it never really hit. It was weird. But that's because
you tear so much less the second time. Anyway, how was the, how was the tear? Well, I had a second degree
tear and then I had a tear on my urethra, which is like really tough. So I had a catheter
for another 24 hours in the hospital. And that one hurt really, that tears. It's still a little
tough. I'm sitting on my like inflatable donut right now. Yeah. But overall, I feel better than I
thought I would. I thought I would feel like I kind of got like hit by a car, but it hasn't been
that bad. Good. The crazy thing to me is, I don't know if this is like a thing.
but as so like the pushing part is incredible and it because of the time of day and because of how long it was like Jess would kind of fall asleep in between pushing because she was so tired and she was working so hard at it but as like when he moved down like just the amount of like just his belly was like disappearing like in the midst of the pushing Jess and I looked at her belly and were like you have a belly button.
again. It's so weird to that or everything just yeah it like it was that was crazy to me yeah I don't
know like that that part was wild just how quickly the belly like started to go away and now it's
crazy to me that I kind of like right now like her parents were out here that week my parents are out
here right now and we're doing some work on the house so like the mornings and the evenings are
my time with Winnie and during the day, like, she just kind of gets passed around and then
Jess, like, takes her for a long time and everything. But Winnie will lay on my chest and her head
will be like on my shoulder and her feet will be like at my groin. And every time, like, I'm like,
how did you fit in my, like, in my wife? Like, Jess is a foot shorter than me. And like, somehow
you were in there and it doesn't like that does like the the anatomy that doesn't make sense yeah my boyfriend's
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Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
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So tell me about the day after, because that's a day, you know, the hospital has a
schedule for you, then you have the newborn shoot, and then the nurses are waking you up
every hour to go pee or- Every 20 minutes.
It was insane. Yeah, I really felt like every 20 minutes someone was in there, like doing something
to me or to Winnie and because I, um, tour where I did, like, they had to check my catheter bag
and they had to like, then they would do the fundal massage and like, see how my bleeding was.
And then they would check on Winnie. And it was like the craziest day ever. So we had the option
to spend a second night like for recovery. So I took that. So I spent the night Thursday night
too just to like be able to try and sleep a little bit. And it was nice because I kept, you have so
many questions like because I should decide to breastfeed and that's really hard too because you
don't have your milk yet and so like having people there to support was really helpful but those two days
in the hospital felt like the biggest whirlwind because you're getting so much info you're like figuring
out your body and like how to handle that and there's just it feels like a business day kind of yes
I'm like I have someone new meetings today this is crazy no you have so many forms to fill out
Yes. Yeah, it was wild.
Including the birth certificate.
So how did you guys come up with the name Winnie?
Winnie Higgins.
Tell us about when you came up with this name.
I know you had it for a while, but you didn't tell us.
We have a list of boy names that are pretty extensive.
And that has been hard for us to narrow down because we like so many.
And like as soon as Jess found out she was pregnant,
she started like doing the like notes on her phone with the names that we would hear
and girl names were really hard for us.
There wasn't many we agreed upon and then there was a moment where we were sitting on
the couch in our living room kind of like going through names and I don't exactly remember
how Wynonna got brought up.
So it wasn't a Wynonna writer movie?
No.
Because I'm from Wynonna Lake Indiana.
So somehow we came up with Wynonna is such a beautiful name.
And then we both were like, we like that name.
I mean, in a lot of ways, is an ode to where I'm from in a place that matters a lot to me.
But also, it's not that in the sense that we just really like the name.
It means first daughter, which we didn't know when we picked it out.
Oh, no way.
Yeah.
And, like, the symbolism of the name Wynonna is really beautiful.
It has like, it means patient, it means resilient.
It means kind.
It means others focused.
And so, like, there was just a lot of things going well for the name Wynonna and who
we dream of her being.
But we both, it was like the only girl name we both liked.
I was really into names that had, like, cute little nicknames, like, Gigi or.
like Vivi or something like that.
And so with Winona, I was like, oh my gosh,
we can call her Winnie.
Yeah, it's cute.
And she has a Winnie the Pooh theme nursery
that was already in place before we knew the name.
No.
So, yeah.
So that works out really great.
We don't want to go overboard on Winnie the Pooh.
Like, we love Winnie the Pooh in this household a lot.
But we don't want it to be like,
oh, we named you after Winnie the Pooh because we didn't.
But she does have like a Winnie the Pooh theme nursery.
and we just think it's such a cute little name.
That is so cute.
What is the thing about home life with Linney
that is most surprising to you?
First of all, our dog is obsessed with her.
Oh, you guys were so stressed.
And I told you, I was like,
our dog hates everyone,
except we brought our kids home.
And she's like, oh, hey, what's up?
Yeah, he's, he is obsessed with her in the sweetest way.
Like, he is sweeter to her than he's ever been to any other human in the world.
So special.
He lays by her in the morning.
He licks, like, off her shirt, like, if he can get up to her, we don't try to let him
that close.
But, like, if she has, like, a spit towel on, like, he'll, like, care for it.
He, he's incredible with her.
So if, like, I'm holding her on the couch, he always curls up right next to him.
us so sweet i'm so happy to hear this that was the first time i think there was just a lot going on
um we got home from the hospital and just pretty much immediately went into nurse and i was like
kind of unpacking some stuff and i walked into the room and wayland was laying at jess's feet
while when they were in the rocking chair nursing and i lost it like wept like i've never seen him cry like
that before. That's beautiful. And it's a relief. Yeah, it's a relief. I prayed like hands and knees
straight to Jesus for 10 months, even before we knew we were pregnant. Like, please, God, like,
what can we do to help this dog be the dog? I know he is. Like, I love him so much. And I know he's
going to be a great big brother. But like, what can we do? And prayers were answered. Like,
immediately so and they have been amazing yeah so that's been amazing like we're so grateful for that
did you have anything that you did specifically to aid we did a lot of training beforehand like we
hired a trainer to do like baby training um we would carry around like a baby doll around the
house we'd lay a baby doll in its crib uh we did a lot of like positive reinforcement for like how
he would react around the baby doll and then we sent home some of her items that after birth
with my parents because they were watching him and he like had those and then when we got home
we put up a baby gate put winnie in a like in our car seat behind the baby gate wheel on another
side so he could like smell her and then we just like gave him a bunch of treats during it like
you're telling him he was great and after that he was kind of like awesome um and just
just has been in in like an incredible mother like it's wild she knows this baby
so well. She knows what when he's thinking, what when he's wanting her and when he are like
bonded in the most beautiful way. And so we've kind of tag teamed it right now. We're like
Waylon's life hasn't changed that much. He still gets out on walks. My parents are here to help
with that. And then like when her parents were out here, like he would have some fun days like
outside of the house. And so like his life hasn't changed that much, which I also think has
been a big deal so he's not like jealous or like this sucks like what's happening yeah so we've just
kind of tag teamed it the best we can right now my final question for you amongst so many more
that will come another podcast and ben i feel like we probably need another one just like a follow-up
for all the other questions that i didn't ask but here's a ben question for you guys how have
you changed in the past week and a half if i'm honest with you just and i just and i just talked
about this last night and I want to try I'm I've been thinking a lot about this because I want to
be as honest to dads as possible there is a biological connection I think that mothers have with
their babies obviously they're growing inside of them you feel the move you're giving birth to them
right and then you're you know responsible for a lot of the things that keep this baby alive
I was more worried about Jessica than I was anything else for a period
of time when we're in the hospital um oh yeah i'm getting to you don't be jealous and then once
winona came out i just looked over and i saw my family and then there was like more i'd say like
there was this like peace because of the situation there was a love because of you know it being my
child but there was more of an immediate feeling of like protection like like i'm on guard a little bit
now and then every day gets to where i'm more just like um like i worry more i worry more about
winona tonight than i did the first night we were home like there's well put there's an everyday
kind of like new um moment there's a new thing that makes me feel more connected to her but but
But I won't say, and I don't want to lie and say, like, the moment she came out of the womb, all of a sudden, this, like, overwhelming sense of, like, connection existed.
It was more of, like, a protection responsibility and a peace that everybody was good.
And then every day, I think there's a new, like, something's building.
And I can feel that.
Perfectly, perfectly put.
Jared would agree with you 100%.
Yeah.
Yeah. And I just think it is. I think it's, I don't know, everybody probably has a different experience. But when you're a mom, like her and Wainona were together for nine months, like without me. And now I'm building this relationship with this girl that, you know, is in the world. So I'd say that's how I'd explain it. I don't know if that's perfect. I don't know if that summarizes everything.
But if I want to be honest, like if I have dads who are like, I didn't feel anything for like two months and I feel guilty about it.
And I'm like, now that I'm in it, I'm like, I don't think you should feel guilty about it.
I don't know anybody in my life that's like, gosh, dang it, I really wish we never had kids.
I know.
But I do know people are like, I don't necessarily feel like I thought I did in the first month.
I'm somewhere in the middle of that.
Yep.
You don't want to force it.
I think that's something that needs to be talked about more because then it leads to more guys feeling so guilty.
Yeah. I don't think guilt is up. I don't think guilt and shame about your reaction is, is anything helpful. I think it's a natural, like, progression to this, like, beautiful place. But goodness, it's beautiful. It's, yeah, I'm looking at her. I mean, it's beautiful. Like, it's crazy. It's something special. I do, before we leave, want to give a shout to Rose. She's a Rose baby, which if you're,
from Denver, you know. It's like the baby hospital here in Denver. And they were
outstanding. Like outstanding at every level, at every turn with anything going on. They cared
for Jess well. They cared for Wynonna well. I think they cared about me. But I was more just kind of
hanging. But like I would just, I want to give them a shout out because they really did do an
incredible job.
Jess, how do you feel differently?
The amount of love I have for her, like Ben said, like I do think there's like more of an adjustment
period for the dad, but like I have this like insane protection over her that like my body
will like shake if she's crying and I'm not in the room.
Like that is something that you guys will, you will feel it more and more.
I think when she starts becoming a little bit more awake to the world and like,
people will say, oh, you have to let her cry for a little while.
You don't like, and the mom is like the sound, like, I can, no, cannot, cannot.
And then the dad doesn't hit them the same.
No.
And it's like I've, I've tried to explain it to Ben.
Like, it's not that I'm, it's not an anxiety.
It's just like, a, like, I can make this better.
Like, let me have her.
Exactly.
It feels controlling maybe on the outside, but you're like, no, no, no, no.
I know exactly.
I don't know how to describe it.
I know exactly how to hold.
Yes, exactly.
And it does feel controlling.
And I'm like,
I don't want to be that mom.
That's like a helicopter mom.
But like I just,
I feel like I know exactly what she needs.
And I've never felt like I have all the answers before.
But I feel like with her,
I do have all the answers,
which is weird.
I love the way you put that.
That's beautiful.
And we're a weekend.
So like, you know,
like there's a lot of like a long way to go yeah so but like so far it's it's i mean i've
known jessica for a long time it is there is a change uh in the best of ways like she's still
jessica the one i fell in love with and um she still has all the qualities that i knew before
but there's like an additional like um sensibility a different an additional like um
familiarity of life and like a confidence that I've never seen her have confidence in before.
There's a confidence with Winona that is different. And it's beautiful. It's just, it's wild to
see. And it happened kind of right away. Like I could tell, like right as soon as Wynonna went on her
chest when she came out, like I said, I could see something changing. Fierce Jess. Yeah.
I became a mama bear real quick.
It's so cute.
I love it so much.
All right.
I can't wait to hear more and more about your experiences and all the other details that you're going to realize that you forgot.
And we're going to talk to you probably Ben next week.
Back next week.
And Jess, we will talk to you soon.
And text us if you need any advice or any recommendations.
You know, we love talking about this stuff.
Thank you so much.
And thank you for letting me do the whole time.
I hope that was okay, but...
Oh, it was delightful.
A true joy.
Okay.
You see you next week.
See you guys.
Bye.
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