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of our producers, Heather and Amy and our friend Nikki. Hi, guys. Hi. Hi. Jen, I agree with you. That is
the number one question people ask the most. What is it like living in a sorority? That is our number one
question is absolutely true. So let's answer the question as best as we can, you guys. Amy,
I mean, tell me some of your thoughts here. So I think we had, and Nikki and I were in the
sorority together. So I think we probably had 100 people living in. How many people lived in your
house, you know, at one time? Not as many. So it was, you know, like, I'm sure like you guys,
it was divided up. So I lived in my house my junior year. But I, I, that was when, so I had pledged
late because I transferred to University of Texas.
So I was living with girls that were younger than me.
And I would say there was probably 50 of us living in the house.
So, and Nikki can attest to this.
One of the, like, things that people really noticed about our sorority was that it was
mostly two-girl rooms because a lot of people.
Except for the pledge porch.
Right.
But a lot of people are turned off by that pledge porch.
Don't you think, Nikki?
It was awful.
I don't even know.
What is a pledge porch?
Wait, you guys, what's a pledge porch?
I don't remember that.
Eight beds or pie-fyes was worse.
Pie-fi's was like one big room.
We had, what, six or?
Six people, and you get, you get sort of like your own little alcove and then you get a closet.
But the things people don't like about other sorities is that you keep your stuff in one room.
And then like 30 girls sleep in what is like a, I don't even know, we didn't have them.
So I don't know what it's called.
It's like a bunk at camp.
Yes, and it's all beds.
I think it's always dark.
Remember Handmaid's Tale?
Did you guys watch Handmaid's Tale?
It was literally look like Handmaid's Tale.
That's just, that's the visual right there.
You know, a lot of stories have it where you sleep in this room and it's all bed, bunk beds,
and you're sleeping in bunk beds and it's dark.
I think they keep it kind of cold in there, so it's only for sleeping.
No desks.
You guys have never heard of this.
Did other houses have that on your campus?
Yeah, PyeFi had like 20 of them, 20 beds in one room.
What?
And I think people also sort of sometimes, like, look, this is a, you know, a lucky thing to be able to say.
But there were people that would go down to two top houses and they would pick the one that they didn't have to sleep in that.
Are you sure?
I don't remember even touring the play.
What?
We were not in the same sorority because I don't remember that at all.
No, we didn't have it.
People didn't do pie-fi because of that.
Yeah.
We didn't tour rooms, Amy.
Yes, you do.
Yes.
You do.
We showed off our two-girl rooms because it was a real way to get people into our sorority.
Right.
Let me tell you it was a real way not to have gotten me in that sorority, okay?
I've never recovered.
The communal showers with everybody's hair is like I've never recovered from.
It's my biggest OCD-triggering thing is the hair.
Sorry, non-sority girl jumping in here for a question about bathrooms.
I got to know.
First of all, we're talking about.
all the girls sleeping in one bedroom. I have other questions about that bathroom. Who's on
shower duty? How many toilets are in this house? There's multiple bathrooms, but you'd have like
six or seven toilets just lined up like a public bathroom. Toilet. No, but you had doors.
Yeah, doors. Yeah. We also, we had a housekeeper. So do we. Yeah. We had many. So you don't,
nobody's cleaning the showers. Nobody's cleaning the toilets that's like living in the house. But,
Our showers had individual stalls.
Like sometimes I think people picture it like a locker room or something where you're just like
naked next to somebody.
And the shower curtains.
No, no.
Can I just say that I wasn't picturing it like a locker room?
I was picturing it like a house with like one toilet per bathroom.
No, but it was our, mine was it was like a house.
I mean, we didn't have any, there was nobody, there was 15 girls congregating in one room
in bunk beds.
We each got a room and they were doubles.
And it was actually very nice.
I mean, I compare it to, like, my freshman year when I was in a dorm, and this was way nicer.
More homey.
It was a really pretty house.
The food was really good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, and I remember, and there was just a lot of, you know, communal areas and the study
room.
It was nice.
I didn't, I enjoyed it.
What was your bathroom situation?
Same thing.
Same thing.
Like, stall, stall, stall.
But nothing that was like.
Now, what's interesting is we.
sort of had like glass between the shower so you could fuzzy glass so you could see sort of
like if nicky was next to me i would know i'd be like hey nick like what's going on
they have since changed it nicky and they made it like marble and you can't see into the next
shower i saw it remember we went to a game yeah two years ago we went into the house and i remember
a lot of it was still the same though amy i mean it was a lipstick on a pig i mean that was not a
full page one remodel. So Nikki and I are both 50. So this is 30 years ago and the dressers
where you put your clothes are the same. They have not changed the dressers. They've not changed
the backs of the bed, but they changed the closet. Oh, the closet's exactly the same. So we had two
girls, majority two girls, some four girls, and then the pledge porch, which I lived on the
pledge porch and I found it fine. I have more questions about the pledge porch. Okay, so first of all,
we're talking about 10 plus girls all being in there.
Is it lights off at the exact same time every night?
No.
What if you have somebody on the pledge porch who talks in their sleep?
What if they want to read in their bed?
I mean, fine.
What if they want to do other things?
Good point, because there were no iPhones or there was no Kindles or anything.
It was books with like a little nightlight on your book.
That would seem annoying.
But I was had a TV.
I always had a TV in my and a DVD or VCR, whatever it was,
that's back in the, you know, 90s.
So I would watch TV and I didn't have headphones.
We didn't have any.
We didn't have a pledge portion.
I mean, you guys reminded me of sleepway camp.
We didn't have any of that.
But I could tell you that my daughter in her house, she, thank God,
because she almost didn't want to pledge her sorority
because she was going to have to live in the house.
And she had heard such nightmare stories.
We tried to get her out of it because she has type 1 diabetes.
We tried to pull that card.
We couldn't.
But she ended up getting a single, but some of the rooms, like the triples, they were so tight.
There was absolutely nowhere to put anything.
And I remember, like, being amazed that these girls could even survive.
I can't imagine a pledge porch.
What if you're sick in that pledge porch?
Your shower catty.
Your little shower caddy.
You know what's so funny.
Because Heather, I think we were, I don't remember who I was talking to about this yesterday,
but I was preparing for this show trying to remember.
There's two things I do not remember.
And I'm going to tell you, I don't remember ever getting sick.
Even though I was basically living in a petri dish filled with people, I don't remember
ever like throwing up, getting a cold, nothing.
And I truly, this is gross.
Sorry, you guys, this is gross.
I don't remember going anything other than number one.
Obviously I did because I lived there for three years.
But I have no memory of being like, I had to poop next to somebody.
maybe you did it outside the house
well so that's an interesting point
Nikki there are two guest bathrooms
in our sorority that were
individual and I do think on
gaily Nikki people went down
and like went in that
so the one by the little den
that one and then where was the where was the other one
downstairs third floor there was one
on the third floor down at the very
very end of the gaily hallway
like if you were at the president's room
and one of them might have
had a weird bathtub I can't
quite remember.
I'm trying to think of all things I've experienced with roommates.
Were you allowed to smoke?
Were you allowed to burn incense?
No, you probably, no, I don't know.
No candles.
We weren't allowed to do anything with fire.
No boys.
There was definitely no boys.
No candles and no incense.
And a bunch of young women all crammed into a space.
How are we making it smell nice in there?
It wasn't stanky.
Not in the bedrooms.
We couldn't have boys in the bedrooms.
Yeah, we could have boys in the bedrooms until 10 o'clock.
Even in the whatever room in the...
In your bedroom, yeah.
No, but I mean the one with the 18 beds, yeah, the porch room.
Yeah.
Nobody was doing funny business.
I never experienced that.
And the other thing, Nikki, is I don't remember people being naked.
Like, people always like, and you just stand around naked.
And I'm like, no.
No, I remember getting in the shower really quickly and putting my towel on and, like, jumping in and all of that stuff.
You know what I do remember, though?
was interesting is like I just think I was actually thinking about like how did we all decide
who were going to be roommates with I think the girls were nicer back then I think it was just
there was there was not mean girls at least I don't remember when we were living in house manager
and it was very easy people totally knew who their roommates were going to be and then where
your room was was based on point so obviously the third floor was better than the second floor
and gaily was better than the main two hallways and so seniors had more points so they
started to get the better room. I remember not my roommate not being happy with me. We were friends.
We picked each other and I was a dirty slop and just just horrible. Okay, this goes to my other
question. You said nobody was cleaning up the bathrooms. Who like what if you go in and your roommate
has her clothes everywhere or what happens then? You fight. I mean, for me, we fought and I was really
embarrassed by it. And I was just at the point in my life where I just couldn't get it
together. I just was a slob. Does the houseperson do your laundry too? No, no, no. You have to do
your... Well, I mean, you're the one saying that you didn't have to clean the bathrooms. I'm
one time, Nikki wasn't there, but one time that there was like a weekend and only a few of us
were there. Everybody went home for some reason and the furnace exploded. And we all thought
we were, it was so gnarly. Like I remember being like, I think like something.
really like we're all going to die but it was just a furnace i never had a messy roommate i don't
think i was messy nicky did you did you have someone messy well i think there was only one or two
washer dryers and i actually remember having to sit down there with quarters right yeah i think we had
quarters they didn't let us use it for free we did um quarters yeah and also we had alpha units do you
guys know what that is that was very big alpha they still have elphas at container store yeah so they were
like in your closet you would hang some of your clothes and then you would have these like alpha units
which were like drawers but they were like wire and you'd literally get like lines in your underwear but
whatever you didn't care and then we had a dresser i mean it was tight but i don't remember it being
like a problem i loved living in the sorority and now that i'm you know obviously divorced and
you know, almost 54 and spend so much time with my friends who are also divorced or getting divorced,
we all talk about living together again one day and having like a modern version of a sorority.
And if you actually, it's all over TikTok, these groups of friends that are buying homes are into
communities. And I have to tell you, I loved every second event. And when I go on girls trips
with my friends, we share rooms. Whereas all the guys will go on a trip, they want their own
room. My friends, I talk about down the road, we're going to get houses all next to each other
in a tiny little community and we're going to spend the whole day. We're going to meet it
drinking and I don't know, play mom, whatever, just live our lives. Yeah. But not the same room,
no way. That I could live in a big house, like a mansion, because these sororities are basically
mansions, right? And it was going to have, I was going to have my room and all my meals would
be served and I'd have all my friends there and this giant TV room and this giant living room.
this giant kitchen and dining room, and I'd have a chef for all three meals.
I'd have someone cleaning every day.
All I have to do is basically, like, make my bed.
That's called assisted living.
My in-laws, if you go down the road, that is the way that they, if that's what you want,
there's a place down the road called the Bristol.
I could definitely have to check it out.
Maybe we all live in sororities when we're 20, and then we all live in again when we're 80.
I don't know.
That's what it is.
We're going to do.
I talk about it all.
I talked, and the other thing we used to do, because when I was in college, it was the height of Beverly Hills 9-210 and Melrose place, and we would squish on whatever the night is. Yeah, that was the best. And we would all watch it. We have our yogurt park. And it was like, the guys knew not to call. And it was like such a fun thing to do.
General hospital, like, during the day, you were like watching. Days of our lives. Yeah. The amount of gummy bears, gummy worms, sour patch kids. When it was.
burrito bar everybody lost their minds they were so stoked they were like it's burrito bar and it basically is
just like imagine chipotle in your right a fancy gourmet chipotle and you're just like what i mean
i did not appreciate it nearly enough and we had breakfast a lot of sororities don't have breakfast
anymore but we had like breakfast right and i couldn't it ended at nine and i was so tired i couldn't make
it down in time so i was always like i had to eat cereal stuff there there was always like cinnamon buns
we had like a warmer where you could always grab like if you were if it was too late like cinnamon
buns or there was like underneath there was always like granola or whatever there was always
stuff waiting all brand cereal i remember i remember we at least i'm older than amy amy was in the
same year as my sister but my group of friends we would do so many pranks to each other so like we
would short sheet the beds or we would pour water what they would like to do to me is they went
around to every hairbrush in the sorority and I got in bed one night and the hair was all over
my beautiful white sheet I literally and then I used to in college I was really into these hunter green
cowboy half boots like I was known for it I wore them and I got dressed the next morning not thinking
and I put my foot in it and it was like a puff of hair I mean it was like constant jokes to each other
yeah see we were we didn't do any of that I
remember just learning how to put popcorn kernels in a brown lunch sack and pop it in the
microwave and then you got popcorn and you just put some salt on that and you'd have a bag of
popcorn for the shows. Someone was always on some kind of a weird diet. I remember there was always
weird stuff like that going on. We need to do a whole episode about the weird diet because
people were throwing up in our bathrooms a lot and I always had the same lunch which was and they
would tease me. I'd come in, I put broccoli, kidney beans, and dejon, mustard, and
balsamic vinegar, like a psycho. So that's sad. There was a lot of that in ours, too. Then we'd all go
to jazzercise together. Jazzercise was big then. I don't know if you guys had that by you.
We did not do jazzercise. I don't remember anyone working out whatsoever at all.
Yeah, we did a lot of jazzercise. I think we did. People blasted like Sarah McLaughlin and
Metallica and Pearl Jam. And then we had a roof on the top where people
would lay out and they would like ditch class and we would all be like frying ourselves from the
rooftop it was can i say something i loved every second of it absolutely and we were friends with
people of different everyone was friends and it didn't matter if you were a senior or a sophomore
i would move back in today if you've got all those people that i live there with you
Angie, Natalie, like tag, all our friends.
Dawn, Natalie Grushuny.
I'd live back in today.
It was the best.
No, I have to say, you guys, I did not have, clearly I did not have as good of experience
as you because I would not go back in today, tomorrow.
Next week, next year, no way.
And it was great.
And I loved it, but I don't know.
I mean, I don't know that I'd be made for that now.
I don't hear about people wanting to move out and they don't want to live their senior year.
They're getting these apartments.
I'm like, what are you doing?
The sorority is the greatest invention of all time.
It is the easiest life.
Like, you literally did not have to do anything.
If you're a girl's girl, right?
Like, I think for some people, it would be very sensory overload, super triggering to be around so many girls.
And girls can be tough.
So I think not everybody would subscribe to that kind of a living situation.
It could be overwhelming.
It's so funny.
Like, you guys, I don't remember.
a lot of the girls fighting though. I don't remember fighting with anyone except I don't either because
I was such a pig but I really don't. Are you friends with her still Jennifer? No I know I haven't
talked to her in years but we were we again they were younger than I was right but I was a requirement
to live in the house. Oh because you transferred right so I was living with girls that were younger
and she was a very nice girl I remember like very very smart very studious very together and I was
just a hot mess and so but we were sick I mean we love
loved each other. I remember that we laughed a lot, but it was not, I mean, we're not,
we don't know each other now. It's funny. Like Amy, I would say Amy probably more than anybody
has kept in touch with many, many people in that chapter. I think that if you gave me one hour,
I could probably reach a hundred Kappa's. I think in one hour, if you gave me one hour and I'd
have to do anything else but just get a text trail going, I think I could get a hundred.
That should be an episode.
We should actually watch that.
We should set the timer for one hour and see what happens.
I'm probably a 50 in my phone right now.
I just really thrived in that environment.
I just, you know, I think I mean, look, it wasn't all unicorns and rainbows.
There's little things that, like, some boy makes you cry or, you know, somebody gets mad that you kiss their ex-boyfriend or whatever.
That can happen in every chapter.
I think what I've taught my kids too is like for not every chapter is the best chapter right and life is long like I would say for me high school was my peaking moment for sure college was good but I would say high school for me is kind of like your experience Amy I mean I liked college yeah I feel like what you're describing Amy I got at like sleepaway camp that was my home away from home growing up everybody has their thing well Jen I know you have a lot of people to talk to but I think we definitely need to like do part one two three
and four because I feel like people are fascinated by the whole thing. Yeah, I agree.
And we're going to take an hour and just see how many of your sisters. Oh, I'd be, I want to
throw a party. So this can be a challenge where I can invite a hundred kappas to a party and see
if I can do it in an hour. And then we'll do a, we'll do a podcast live, live for the reunion.
They're so funny.
you guys well thank you for sharing i i appreciate you both um and jen you want to live in our sorority
with us in a few years we're really fun nope i am unlike you guys i am not interested in going back to
a sorority house i had a blast i loved it i just no i can't share a room i can barely share her with my effin
husband so no there'll be none of that by the way one last note can you imagine a sorority house today
with like the botas the modern sorority house with like the botox and the manicures at the house and
people with the, I mean, it would be a whole different thing.
I can because my daughter graduated two years ago.
And so it was very different than what I had experienced.
Having said that, it was definitely her best year of college.
Amy, I've one memory now because when I talked to that.
Give it. Give it. Give it. This is so, now that I remember you, oh my God, this is horrible.
So I was living one year with, I was living with Susan. I was living with Dawn and Tracy.
Okay.
So that would be like a four-girl gaily, got it?
Four, but like one of the better rooms, okay?
And all of a sudden, I was like, I think I had the first yeast infection I'd ever had,
and I did not know what it was.
And I literally thought I was dying.
When I tell you the laughter with them with me and them calling my mom and laughing,
they had to take me to urgent care and the jokes about my yeast infection,
oh, Nikki, are you making bread right now?
Do you want some bread for dinner?
that's my one thing I remember.
That where they did that.
That was crazy.
Yeah, I mean, everybody's there to help.
Everybody's there to help.
Love you guys.
Bye.
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you get your podcast okay you guys so now joining us we have emma candice and katelyn and these ladies
all live in the same house and one of them emma is the house manager so you guys our listeners
are dying to hear about the experience that you're having maybe we could start with you emma what
What is it like to be a house manager?
Is it a ball?
It feels to me like it would be a mixed bag.
Sometimes, you know, really fun.
These are your friends.
Sometimes it may be harder because you are also there to enforce the rules.
Tell us a little bit about that.
Yeah, it's definitely a hectic job.
I feel like we've kind of got a lot going on.
It's a big house.
At the end of the day, the girls are all my good friends,
and I'm lucky enough to live in a house where we actually like each other.
So there's not too much drama, but we are,
also college students. So there's a lot of alcohol and boys sneaking in and people maybe not
following the rules. So like, yes, it's great in terms of like catiness that doesn't quite exist
in our, in our own house. But there is a lot of, hey, maybe don't puke on our carpets and
that kind of stuff. Well, why? Well, Emma, why did you decide that you wanted to be the house
manager? Honestly, our house was kind of ugly. And I knew that I could maybe work to
renovate some of it. So actually this past year, I got a budget of about $65,000 and we renovated
our entire downstairs. Get out. Yes. So that primarily just because it was ugly and I wanted
it to look better. But in the meantime, I've kind of come to enjoy the actual like management
role. Really? Okay. That's so cool. So, okay. What
kind of house manager is Emma. Handis? I would say that she is very good at her job. I would also say that
she and I kind of co-manage a lot of things and we are definitely the most vocal voices in our
group me just because when we do have a renovated house and things are so nice, you do have to remind
people of certain roles. And in our chapter, we have some issues. We've had people. We've had people
throw up in the sinks. We've had people throw up on carpets and couches. We've had people have their
friends sleep in the fire escape. And there was this whole rumor going around that we had like
some sort of squatter. So we have had a lot of things happen that were definitely against the rules.
But I would say that Emma's really good at her job. What is the most fun thing? Having the keys.
yeah so i have like a big huge thing of keys it has keys to every single door in the house the basement
the attic all the things i feel like it's most fun because whenever she goes down like i'm the first
to know just because me or like our president because people you usually text me like hey i don't
know if you notice but there's yak in the drains or i don't know if you knew but there's someone
smoking meth on our porch okay i don't know what's going on with ladies with your sorority i'm getting
a little concerned. I don't know if I should talk to you, Emma's a house manager. Is there a mother there?
Is there somebody I can talk to? We have a house mom.
House mother. You do? Not so much with the meth ladies. It wasn't us. It was a homeless person.
I'm very glad to hear that. Caitlin, what do you love about living in the house?
I love that there's never a dull moment, as you've already started to hear. There's always
meth, lots going on. Exactly.
Exactly. You really never know what you're going to find when you walk outside of our sorority house or walk inside.
I also like that we have 65 closets at all times and there's so many people you can go and talk to you for different things.
And it's been so much fun. But I'm also excited to get out and not have to deal with the chaos.
How is it? How is your house formatted? Like for me, when I lived in my house, it was there were just two to a room, period.
do you guys have what's your situation we do you have singles do you have triples we have singles we have a 10
girl room um actually candis and i have two two out of the three singles the third one belongs to
the president but we have rooms that have 10 girls in them eight what is that called the porch
okay so i was just i we didn't have that in my house did the girls like living there so actually
a lot of times the girls end up living there because they have the least amount of house points and
they're not really choosing to live there and a lot of times they're not even really friends with the other
people who are picked in that, picked to be in that room with them. But our year actually, the girls
who got chosen to be in that room, our sophomore freshman, or our sophomore fall semester actually
opted to be in there again their spring semester even though there were so many empty rooms just because
of how much they loved it and how much they became such a tight-knit friend group.
So people really enjoy it.
I love that. That's very cool.
So, all right, so tell me, I'm going to say Candice.
Okay, tell me for you, what is the best and worst thing about living in the house?
I would say best part, I agree with Caitlin, getting to be close to everyone.
Everyone is borrowing clothes for game day or to go out, and it's very like a great sense of community.
I would say the worst thing is a lot of people, obviously it's a very shared space and a lot of people don't have, I don't want to say like the decency to be respectful to others, but there's a lot of people who that might not be the first thing at the top of their head.
And so there's obviously messes throw up in the sink like we mentioned earlier, but also in the spring when the house was at half capacity because a lot of girls go abroad.
people would pick up secondary rooms so during house picks um you could say you were in a double
um and like live with another girl but you could also put your name on a room and people were using
those rooms as like sex rooms and so each room had like a secondary room that if they wanted to
their roommate could go there and kately can tell more about this story but we also had an issue
with like a downstairs bathroom breaking just because people were using that for different
purposes.
I mean, you guys, I am coming back as either Emma, Candace, or Caitlin, and living in that
house because it sounds like way more fun than I had at the University of Texas in
1989.
So meth, sex.
You had your own sex room.
All right.
So anyway, but Caitlin, okay.
So Candace said you could tell us a little bit more about that.
Yeah.
In addition to having sex rooms, people also are president, not this current term, but past presidents
have used their rooms to sell drugs out of.
What is happening?
I don't really know.
It's really surprising because you would think we live in a fraternity like with these
kinds of stories.
But the girls who do these things are actually like very, they're our friends.
So it's not like it's some crazy one-off in our sorority.
It's just people know they can get away with things.
They get caught up in college in general,
and they know that our house mom doesn't care that much
and is not that great at her job.
So they get away with a lot.
Because your sorority known as like sort of the party girls?
I kind of, but not particularly more than any other house.
We're definitely not known as the drug house
compared to other sororities.
Although, as I've said, we do see drugs.
Yeah. Emma, this might be a little hard for you to manage, no?
I mean, I feel like, I mean, okay, the meth was a separate situation.
That was, like, a homeless dude who was, like, sitting on our porch,
and he was sitting crisscross applesauce with this, like, fedora on.
And he's sitting there with, like, tinfoil, actively doing meth.
And he's like, I'm going to shower you guys.
I want to wash you guys.
Crazy shuffles.
So, like, there's stuff like that, but I don't know.
I feel like drinking is probably the main thing that I see just because people are off, like, in the house, yakking everywhere and stuff like that.
But I don't know.
I haven't had to sit anyone down and talk about their drug problem yet, yet.
Wait, Candice, tell us about something called The Letter.
So I was just recalling when we had our unhoused visitor, he actually left us a letter.
and some of like included people's names in the letter.
So what Emma's saying about him saying,
I want to shower you or whatever he was saying,
he actually left us a little bit of a gift
that Emma actually kept to herself,
did not share with anyone.
And she let her roommate find it,
and then the roommate sent it into the group me.
But it was like this letter.
Emma, do you want to share more?
Yeah.
So after this whole incident, I called the police.
Meanwhile, I'm, like, fully blacked out.
It's, like, three in the morning.
I've come home from a night out, and I have to call the cops and be like, hey.
And, of course, the cop, like, leaves and takes the guy with him, and she's like, have fun, but not too much fun, because clearly I'm drunk.
Anyway, so the next day, I come back, and there's a letter at the front door, and anything that's addressed to our sorority, I opened it up.
And so I opened it up, and it's this written out letter, girls' names in our house is, like, I need, like, $10 million to get to Puerto Rico, like, just gibberish, all this gibberish.
But I knew we're in a house of dramatic 20-year-old girls.
Like, I was like, someone's going to freak out.
I'm just going to keep this to myself.
I put in a plastic baggy.
I was like, if he ever comes back, it's evidence, like, whatever.
My roommate found it and didn't consult me, took a photo of it and sent it to our group chat.
And all of a sudden, everyone knows.
And I'm like, shit.
And it had been, like, months since I had, like, I detected everyone and be like, hey, like, it's okay.
It was months ago.
Like, he's not coming back.
Don't worry.
But then, like, they had their thing.
So, I don't know.
All right.
Okay, let's just for a moment move off of the meth smoking crazy homeless lunatic.
Tell me a little bit about like what's fun, I don't know, like for us at night and we had
some women on just now that were talking about the olden days, like the days I come from,
but like sitting around at night and we have like common areas and just, you know, everybody
was obsessed or like for me, we loved soap operas.
I don't even know if you know what that is at this point.
But like during the day we'd all like be together watching or Beverly Hills 90210 or whatever
it was. Do you guys have that? Do you have like we're going to just like congregates and is it,
do you have that feel to it? Yeah. We actually have a TV room. And people watch. I think it was
the summer I turned pretty. There was a whole watch party every week. I think on Wednesday
nights everyone would go sit and watch. What was it dancing with the stars? People sit there and
sometimes it's a random show playing and people will just join. I've had so many conversations where I'm
just like I walk by after dinner and I'm like oh I really love that movie and I'll just sit and
it's the most random people that I normally wouldn't fun though right and yeah I wouldn't normally
like sit and spend hours with them on end usually the girls but it's really nice to get to know
people and then after I'm like oh now like when I see you in the halls I know you um like so much
and then Candace you were talking about something on porch yes we also have this outdoor porch
area that leads into our backyard and we have a lot of people in our house that like to play
guitar and are really good at singing so everyone will go outside and our house carries sound
very well so you can hear people outside singing and playing instruments and it's so fun and
we definitely have great sisterhood within the house despite all of the craziness but i feel like the
craziness is part of having a great house culture and having great sisterhood so you got to give to get a
little. Listen, I am so excited for you guys that you are having this great experience. I'm also a little
worried for the three of you, but I'm going to leave that to your very capable mothers. But
listen, I want you to enjoy every minute, but I should be careful, please. We will. No more,
okay, no more meth smoking homeless people on the porch.
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So next, we have Emily joining us.
Hi, Ms. Emily.
Hi, Jennifer.
How are you?
Hi.
I'm doing very well.
This is a very, very fun episode for me.
We are talking about living in your sorority house.
I lived in one 10 million years ago, and we've had some ladies here telling us some wild stories.
But tell me a little bit about your experience.
I went to a very big university, and Greek life was kind of like relatively big.
I mean, definitely can't compare anything to like the South or the Midwest.
But we had a lot of houses on the row.
It was like one straight shot ball sorority house.
houses and we basically like every house mom besides ours was like i don't know 65 years old um
and our house mom was a ripe 25 years old so she was basically like another member and exactly
and she like not only act that like it but like let us act our like to our full potential and it was
like so much so that there was,
and this I heard from other girls, like there was
like kind of like a
thing to get her kicked off
because she was too chill and too fun
and like would let us do really
I mean, nothing like insane
but like other house moms wouldn't let
girls like even, like guys weren't even
allowed through the front door, you know, and our house mom
like didn't care who you
who was in the house at any time.
Right. But yeah, she was amazing.
I still think about her all the time.
Well, what year,
did you live in the house? I lived in sophomore year, the year that, like, most people live in at my
school. Okay. And, like, how many girls were there? I think there are probably, like, oh, God,
like, maybe, like, 50 or 60. I think I could be like that. It's kind of like a high number,
but we had a huge house. Was it a nice house? Like, was it, was it comfortable? Was it, you know,
in terms of, what were the, like, what was the setup with their singles, doubles, triples,
how was the shout was like? There was literally everything. It would kind of just,
felt like like it was like a, it was like kind of like an insane asylum. Like you would walk
it. No, it was amazing. It was beautiful. But it was just like there were like no rules kind of.
So like we like you'd walk in. There's a beautiful courtyard. Um, like the actual house is like
in a gorgeous area. Um, and a very beautiful house. And then the rooms were like you could have
anything from like a single to like I had a like a quad and my mom used to call it like the
house in the air because my i would like wake up and my head would like bang against the ceiling
because that's like how crazy the bunk bed situation was would you change that looking back like
i know that that's probably you probably dreaded it but then some people come out of that and
they're like that was the best situation i could have had yeah i feel like in the moment even in the
moment i knew it was one of those things where i was like hey like this is the most uncomfortable i've
ever been but also like the happiest like i really i love that yeah i mean like i would like
come home drunk and like nearly crack my head open trying to like climb up my bed but um did you fight
you ever have fights with the girls in your room no there was never ever fighting that's something that i
feel like a lot of people that weren't in greek life would always ask me like oh have you fought
with the girls are you catty like what's kind of like the vibe and yeah i was always like oh my gosh
like never i feel like there's i mean there's you put like see girls in a house there's it's like
impossible to not have like zero like any drama but no i was telling these guests before that um
with me i had a double and my roommate just hated me because i was such a slop not because of
yeah she couldn't and i understand looking back now why she would have but right right right
you have that i mean i think we were just all pigs i think it was just like like honestly to be
completely honest like i feel like i see things all the time of like oh these like clean girl houses
and they have their chefs and like we had that but we were just like a bunch of
of like 20 year olds just like
I don't even know like
who could be more destructive.
Yes. Exactly. You would
fit right in like you would wake up on like
I don't even know like a Saturday or a Sunday
after a night out. No sheets on
the bed. Yeah. Someone
peaked in the hallway. You know
what I mean? Like it was one of those
things that it was like oh my god someone like
definitely mixed Gatorade. Oh my god we had
this like um like
fountain drink machine and we called it the
mixing machine. Um,
And it was always like you knew someone puked, like what machine they had used.
It was really gross.
Yeah, there was like, yeah, you can still, you can still smell some of it.
Thank you, Ms. Emily.
All right, guys.
So next, we are going to talk to Mary.
Mary has a very interesting viewpoint on living in the house because she lived in her house during COVID.
Hi, Mary.
Hi, Jen.
Thanks for having me on.
Thank you for joining us.
Tell us what it was like.
And I honestly, I mean, my daughter couldn't even start school because she was an incoming freshman and they shut it down.
So I'm trying to picture they even allowing you to live in a house together during COVID.
Yeah, I think it was kind of the plan when the school year started.
You know, we collected all the points, got to sign the room before COVID, and then it hit.
I went to a school in Colorado.
And essentially, we were all allowed to come back.
And then as soon as we were back and moved in, then we got the rules in place where there was a city mandate lockdown.
Then there was a state mandate lockdown.
And then there was a school lockdown.
And then there was a sorority lockdown where 50% of the girls in my sorority got COVID.
And we had an annex house that is where you were like banished to.
Yeah.
And you couldn't.
leave. There was a balcony and I wasn't a part of that group. But it was just like a sick
house where everyone was just living on top of each other for two weeks and you couldn't go back
into the main house to get any of your items. People would have to bring them to the door.
That's horrible. So then there was a period of time where my sorority gave everyone in the house the
option was to either lock down in the house because then we had to shut down not only the
annex but the main house or you had to leave for two weeks but you weren't if you lived out
a state you weren't allowed to fly home and so you had to find another option so a couple
of me and my girlfriends drove to Arizona and stayed at her house in Arizona for two weeks
because her parents weren't there you have anything good to say about you're experiencing
in your house?
That is how I became close with 25 girls.
Oh, see that?
It definitely some people kind of got lost in the mix,
but I could not be closer to the girls I'm with.
And it's because we lived on top of each other.
Yeah.
Wow.
That is so, are you still, you still are like that.
Yeah.
Our group chat is still up and at him.
It was, it was definitely a hard period of time.
because it was 65 girls living on top of each other.
Right.
And it was no other year was like that in the past.
Like everyone would go to class or you would maybe have lunch together,
maybe have dinner together.
But we had every single meal together in that house.
And were you guys, you have online classes at the time?
So no one wanted to take their classes in their rooms
because you spent too much time in your room.
So we had long dining tables.
which you could never get a seat at.
And then we had a basement,
which you could also barely get a seat at
because it was 65 girls.
And what was,
tell me like one thing about it
that you remember that was actually really fun.
We did movie nights.
Movie nights, okay.
We had game nights.
We played this game called
One Night Ultimate Werewolf,
light candles, ordering food.
There was a ton of memories.
We would sneak alcohol in.
pregame really hard pregame where was the game game oh there was periods of time where we were
allowed to leave the house it was rare you know right in between all of the lockdowns but when we
were allowed to leave the house then we would go party at the frat houses and then get in trouble
and then you know get locked down I would definitely say that everyone lost their marbles and then
And it was nice because we sealed that year in a really pretty pink bow with a trip to Cabo when everything was kind of lifted.
So it was a tough year mentally for everyone, but it ended up creating really long-lasting friendships.
Would you change it?
Like, if you could go back and live in the house, not during COVID, like, would you switch your experience, you think?
No.
I wouldn't switch my experience, but I would not.
live in the house again. It was really tough. I think just because we were all living on top of
each other and just it being that period of time that it was. Yeah. It was just challenging to live
with so many girls all at once. So Mary, it was challenging to live in my house with a husband and two
kids. So I can only imagine what it was like to live with that many girls. It's just it had to be
rough. Yeah. And it sounds like it was sort of worth it. I mean, you have these relationships now that
that have endured.
Yeah, it was for sure worth it.
I think it was just a, it's also just like a hard period of time to become a woman
because everyone wants to grow their education, grow their status, become independent.
And so everyone's kind of like, it's like a battle between everyone and then it turns out okay.
Do you think that happens not just during COVID, but in houses in general?
I would assume so.
I remember talking with my.
little before she moved into the house and I told her blatantly that it was just it was difficult
for me but it was the best challenge I put myself through interesting yeah that's so great well I mean
I'm so happy that you look back on it and look back on it in a positive way I'm sure there are
I would think there would be some of your sisters that maybe don't look back in it with such fond
memories but I'm glad that you have all of these people now these lifelong friends that you
We, you know what?
You went through the battle with.
Yeah.
Of course we have some of our, we have some great stories that happened.
Like one of them being that a bat came into our house and it was living in our house for two weeks because girls saw it and then no one could catch it.
And then it was rediscovered hanging in someone's room.
And so then the two girls had to get tetanish shots.
gross absolutely disgusting yeah that's scary yeah all right my friends so i love talking to those young
ladies and older ladies about their experiences i mean i it was such an it was like this little
tiny nugget in my life living in the ae five house at the university of texas and i have
really fond memories of it and I have memories that are not so fond, but I hope all the
girls feel like this. I would certainly not change it. As I mentioned, my daughter tried
everything to get out of living in her sorority house at the University of Delaware. She
couldn't get out of it. It was her best year. So to be continued, thanks you guys so much
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