The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Single AF And Now I Have To Deal with Valentine’s Day!

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

After a girls’ night out, Cheryl Burke and Golden Bachelorette Joan Vassos are catching up!    They’re talking about Halle Berry’s engagement, how Joan and Chock do long-distance successfully, and how to navigate Valentine’s Day single.    Email us at: [e-mail] or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. I'm Bowen-Yen. And I'm Matt Rogers. During this season of the Two Guys Five Rings podcast, in the lead-up to the Milan-Cortina-2026 Winter Olympic Games, we've been joined by some of our friends. Hi, Bo-N-Han-Haw-Haw-Haw-Haw-E-L-Lead.

Hey, Matt, hey, Bowen. Hi, Cookie. Hi. Listen to Two Guys Five Rings on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing.

And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 1969, Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis. And at Morehouse College, the students make their move.

These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up the members of the board of trustees, including Martin Luther King's Senior. It's the true story of protests and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles. I'm in a little like Lamouba. Listen to the A building on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Over the last couple years, didn't we learn that the folding chair was invented by black people because of what happened in Alabama? This Black History Month, the podcast, Selective Ignorance with Mandy B, unpacked black history and culture with comedy, clarity, and conversations that shake the status quo. The Crown Act in New York was signed in July of 2019, and that is a bill that was passed to prohibit discrimination based on hairstyles associated with,

race. To hear this and more, listen to Selective Ignorance with Mandy B from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to I Do Part 2. It's one of your celebrity mentors, Cheryl Burke, and I'm coming to you live from my hometown, San Francisco. Today, I'm joined by someone we love having on the pod, of course. It's Golden Bachelorette Joan Vasos. Hi. Thank you for having me. I were just talking earlier, and I was like, I didn't even see you last night. It's so funny because it wasn't a huge party. No. I can't proud it. Yeah, there were a good amount of us and there was so many fun things to do. I think maybe we didn't like, like,

connect because we were doing other stuff. Right. Well, where were you? So we were at Lala Kent and Amber. Amber. Yep. Childers. Amber Childers. They have a very successful podcast and unlikely affair, which is hilarious the name. Do you know the backstory? Oh, yeah. It's so, I mean, if you guys don't know the backstory, check it out. It is fascinating. It is. It is. It's quite fascinating.

I love how they ended up together. And I guess like the big, we could just do a quick synopsis. So he was married. He was married to Amber, childers. Yep. And then cheated on Amber with Lala. And they both have kids. Well, she was filming.

So it was like public knowledge. So and they both have kids from him. So their kids are like half siblings. And they're such good friends. And they're such good friends because they have a mutual bond of hating this man. I mean, this is crazy. So wait, are this is, are they? technically have...

Because they both have the same father. Oh, right. Yeah, so they're having a family. I know, isn't that funny? That kind of just don't know. Oh, interesting. Okay. And now they get to have

their own podcast and a successful one. And they're doing great. Well, you know what? They're both really interesting women. They are. I've always been a fan of Lolas, actually. I just liked how, I don't care what

Banderpump rules, like whatever reputation she has, but she seems really cool and grounded for the most part. Well, you know, it's reality TV. So it is what it is. Exactly. I mean, they edit the way they want to make the people look, but, like, I've had interactions with her in the past, and she is adorable, and she's,

like, a good mom. A good mom. And I have to say, if you're a good mom, you know, you're doing the most important thing in life. She's not even going to the Stain concert tonight because she's going home. I know, because her daughter has, like, an interview kind of play date tomorrow for a preschool she's trying to get into. Yeah, just come up. I love that. I love that about her. Good mom. And kind of grounded, down to earth. Definitely. Especially in this town, right, of Los Angeles, of L.A., that is. Yeah. Not the Bay Area where I'm from. We're all pretty down to earth, I would say, for the At the Bay Area, definitely. I mean, at the show, I feel like she hasn't changed much.

I agree. But I got to tell you last night, how great was her dress? So she and... The sequins? It was... She had the greatest jersey. She and Amber had matching... Yep. Sequent jerseys and dresses.

Yeah, I mean... The dresses, but they were jerseys, but they were long enough, like, they were... Well, because they have adorable, cute little fingers. Yeah. Yeah. That, they had these short little, like, mini... With, like, heels on. ...with the heels on with the heels.

And the night was magical. It was just a beautiful evening. We were in San Salerns... Asceladio looking over the water. You could see the bridge and the sparkling lights in the distance. It's never clear. Beautiful. Yeah, you can see the stars.

And they had all those cute little pop-up things for us to do. Did you make a hat? Yes, and I made a hat. Really, just a fun night. I didn't get a hat. I should have gotten a hat. Oh my God. They had little patches to go on them that were hilarious.

I got one that said, and it was hilarious because it had like roses, so it's very bacheloret. And it said, I cried, but I did the thing anyway. I love that. You know, everybody cries on a bachelor. And I did the thing anyway. I'm like, how was your experience with that? It was great. Did you have fun?

Yeah. We're both from the same network-ish. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I never really know. I mean, I've seen it. I've seen parts of it. But like, I've always wondered what the emotional roller coaster is like. It is crazy.

Well, because of like lack of sleep and like high emotions that like, and they get more and more and more and more and more and more and you're in this box. And you're in this box. And it gets more and more intense every day, every week as you get closer and you're down to fewer guys and emotions are stronger. It's, it's, it's. a lot, but I got engaged, so I got so lucky. Congratulations. We're going to talk about that with Valentine's Day, Kevin up. But let me ask you a question, though, because you're single.

I am happily. Yeah, so what's it like being around other single women at this stage in your life? It's actually, it's fine. I mean, honestly, single or not single? It's just, I have so much freedom, and I'm just loving every single second of it. You know, I live alone with my French bulldog, and me and her are just, you know, I said this to somebody last night. I said this to somebody last night. I said, you know, I've never been so content for this consistent amount of time. Like for the last, you know, I've been divorced now for almost three and a half years, I would say. And I just don't have any interest, meaning like, I'm not going to join a dating app.

Like, I don't have any interest in doing that. If something happens organically, you're okay with it. Absolutely. And if nothing happens for now, fine. So be it. Like I'm just learning to love my own presence. And I used to be a serial dater. So I always date, I always had a backup plan.

And I could never be alone. And now I'm just trying to really, you know, enjoy this moment. And did that come with age? Like you're feeling good in your skin. He was lots of therapy, girlfriend. Therapy and some wine. Well, I'm sober. But yes.

But basically, yeah, it was just a lot of, you know, I learned from my mistakes. And this is what I need right now. And you feel comfortable in your skin. Good for you. Because it's hard to feel comfortable in your skin. It is. It is. Very much. Especially when you're on a dancing show, you know, for so many years and shaking your butt

and little tiny costumes. Too boy. And being under the microscope with all that. but that's another podcast. However, you know, it's actually, it, I think for me it was when I retired from the show was when it really was like, okay, well, that show and nothing really should identify you

as a person outside of you, right? So it was hard for me to really understand that while I was in it, obviously, just like I'm sure the bachelor, when you're in the public eye, I mean, it's a small little world of Dancing with the Stars. And I've been there, I was there for six seasons. And so like half my life, I was, there. So it was hard to cut the umbilical cord. I bet that was really a huge decision for you.

Yeah. My goodness. But you feel comfortable in your skin now. So if you hadn't done that, you probably would have been open to all that public attention and scrutiny. And I know that we all get it. Well, I was not comfortable when I was getting all that attention. Yeah. And so that was like, so my, I based my mood off of how other, what I thought other people were receiving you. And it's just like, wow, that was really not. I wasn't stable, you know, because of it. Yeah. Oh, I'm glad you do that. Thank you. Thank you.

Thanks so much. So how about you? You say you're engaged, right? So tell me, how long has it been since you've been engaged? So we got engaged on the show. So it was right in the beginning of August a year. Can I see the ring? Yes, you can.

Oh, it's gorgeous. And this is what got me for Christmas. So he's a good jewelry buyer, right? Oh, my goodness. I know. Isn't it beautiful? I know. He's a good guy.

And diamonds. Diamonds are a girl's best friend. Yeah, you can't go wrong with diamonds. No. So it was a year in August, but we weren't public. until November. So we've been engaged for like a year and a half. Yeah.

And so far. I mean, you look so happy. Like, genuinely. I am genuinely happy. So he lives in Kansas. I live in Maryland.

So we have a long distance relationship. And it's fine. We've kind of figured it out for now. I'm like, it's not something I want to do forever. But it is where we are in our life now. He has a business in Kansas. He has to run it.

I have family in Maryland. I have three grandkids. I have a 93-year-old mother. I have my own children in there. So I'm not leaving them. So we're living the best life. I wonder if that's the secret. Maybe it is.

No, I'm not kidding. I know. People have said that to me. Like, do you really think you ever need to live together? Because then you miss each other. We miss each other. And when we see each other, it's a lot of times not in Kansas or Maryland, like, we'll meet in Miami or we'll meet in Lama or we'll meet like, we'll meet like, we're going to Puntacona on Monday. I love that.

I love that. And you plan stuff. Because like when you live together. Yeah. Exactly. And so we have no like your dirty laundry. We have no like you didn't clean the bathroom. Right.

None of that. Because we're on vacation a lot of time. Yeah. Yeah. So we haven't actually had that, but it's okay. It's actually really good. So it keeps that honeymoon stage kind of going for longer. Right. But, you know, we all know the honeymoon stage won't go on forever. It's okay. This allows for communication because you do have to communicate, obviously. And do you guys have a boundary as far as like how long you guys are not together? Our longest has been about three weeks, which is not long. Okay. That's not bad. And that only happened because he and I both had vacations that were previously scheduled. He actually was going to. on safari with his son that he scheduled a year in advance, and I had a brand deal I had to do.

So we ended up just not over, his vacation for like 10 days, and then I had a vacation for 10 days, and then we finally got back together. But we ended up being apart for almost a month that time. And you guys talk every day. I like multiple times a day. Welcome to the A building.

I'm Hans Charles. I'm in Malmilaic Lamoma. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. had both been assassinated. And Black America was out of breaking point. Writing and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's Almemata, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest.

It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King Sr. and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people would die. In 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind. Listen to the A building on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze.

Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. So keep this secret for so many years, he's like a seasoned pro.

This is a story about the end of a. marriage. But it's also the story of one woman who was done living in the dark. You're a dangerous person who prays on vulnerable and trusting people. You're a creditor of Michael Levin Good. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Bowen-Yen. And I'm Matt Rogers. During this season of the Two Guys Five Rings podcast, in the lead-up to the Milan Cortina 2020-26 winner Olympic Games, We've been joined by some of our friends. Hi, Bob, hi Matt.

Hey, Elmo. Hey, Matt, hey, Bowen. Hi, Cookie. Hi. Now, the Winter Olympic Games are underway, and we are in Italy to give you experiences from our hearts to your ears. Listen to two guys, five rings on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What do you do in the headlines don't explain what's happening inside of you? I'm Ben Higgins, and if you can hear me, is where culture,

meets the soul, a place for real conversation. Each episode, I sit down with people from all walks of life, celebrities, thinkers, and everyday folks, and we go deeper than the polished story. We talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope. We get honest about the big stuff, identity when you don't recognize yourself anymore, loss that changes you purpose when success isn't enough, peace when your mind won't slow down, fake when it's complicated. Some guests have answers. Most are still figuring it out. If you've ever felt like there has to be more to the story, this show is for you. Listen to if you can hear me on the IHeart

radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So what advice you have for anybody who's going through a long distance relationship that's over it? Yeah, Sue, boy. I'd say it's working for us. I could see that it would be hard for other people. But because we have all these other opportunities that we get because we were on the show. You mean, like, to work together. Yeah, to work together and to be like in a way or to be here. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, free trips.

Yeah, free trips that get you together. So, you know, I mean, financially, it would be hard maybe for other people to do this because you'd have to make an effort to, like, see each other. And that can be expensive. And also, like, we get to do really fun things. But, you know, you work your whole life. I'm 62. Oh, I'm 63 now.

I turned 63 a couple weeks ago. Thank you. So I'm 63. He's 62. We worked our whole life. We raised our kids. We, you know, saved money. We planned for this time in our lives to have a good time. Like, you do this. You work up to this and you go, okay. So what life is about. That's what life is about, right? So we are living it. And we just, neither one of us ever pictured that are these years would have ended up like this. Like, I didn't think I was ever going to lose my husband. You know, he, he is divorced. And then he lost his fiance. He had been engaged for a bunch of years to a woman. who then ended up with the brain tumor.

So he lost her. So both of us all of a sudden were, like, faced with these futures, like that were really unknown to us. And then we found each other. So now we're living that dream that we had with other people, but now we're doing it with each other. So what is one thing that doesn't cost any money that you feel like would really help someone to hear?

Like, what is the number one thing that you have, whether it's communication or what is it, like, consistently? I think communication. Yeah. So I think, you know, just talking about the stupid things happening your day, it makes you more part of their life. So every conversation is epic. In fact, most conversations are very not epic.

It's like, so what are you doing for dinner tonight? Did you make that shrimp you head in your refrigerator? How are you? How are you? How is your day? Whatever happened with that colleague, whatever. So it makes you part of the life. So it's probably conversations you would have if you're together.

We do those on the phone. Right. And multiple times a day. Multiple times. Morning, we talk every morning. We talk every night and then sometimes several times. Yeah, right? And if you're like physically like together, then sometimes we don't talk about much.

You might have a TV. be on. Right. Like when I'm on the phone with them, I'm not watching TV, right? Right. Yeah, typing. It's actually maybe actually kind of good for communication, like to not always be together. It's forced. I mean, and if you don't communicate when you're gone, then that just tells you. That's a friend black. If there's, yeah, there's a day that I didn't talk to them. I think something is seriously or wrong. I should probably get on a plane and go to Kansas. So are you guys celebrating Valentine's Day then? We are. Yes. We have. I think I've been there before with my ex, actually. Where are you going? So we were going to be in Camtogon.

We're going to be at the hard rock. Okay. Are those those villas on the water? So not. Oh, okay, okay. No, but I have been to one of those. Not in Punta Kana though. I did that in Bora Bora.

Okay. Oh, that's gorgeous. I've always wanted to go there. Oh, God. Yeah, it's beautiful. Well, I did it on Bachelor, so they brought us there. Oh, yeah. Oh, I need to go back.

It was beautiful. That's way too quick. It's a long flight, but it was not so bad from West Coast. From East Coast, it was really, oh, definitely worth it. So we're going to be actually in L.A. We're going out there for a thing that we have to, do. And so we're just staying an extra day. The thing that we have to do is on the 13th. Okay. And so I said, I got us a night for the, we're going to stay the night of the 13th and

14th. Okay. And then go home on the 15th. So we can be together for Valentine's Day. And how long are you going to be in Pughey? Well, you don't know of anything that's planned. I don't know of anything. Does he surprise you a lot? If you're listening chalk, you should plan something. Maybe more diamonds or something. At least make dinner reservations. That would be great. Yeah, I should probably put that on his plate. Is he that type of person? No. Oh, he doesn't He'd be like, just tell me where you want to be, like, what do you want to do? Or, like, tell me what time to be ready. And I'm like, sometimes I do want him to make the plans.

Right? And so I did that to him to New York. And I was like, you know what? You're making dinner plans for Friday night or whatever. And he did. He did a great job. He looked into stuff. Did he feel like insecure at all?

Was he like, can you just tell me what do you want? He was totally confident. I was like, I don't care where we go. You just make the plans. Because I'm the ones always making the plans. And he didn't even have like a restaurant app on his phone. I'm like, you need to get. Wait, I don't either.

Is this postmates considered a restaurant app? No, that's for ordering in. This is for making reservations. I know. Maybe it's because I'm not dating. Open table or something. Oh, I have open table. See, there you go.

He didn't even have that. Sometimes. I just have so many apps. I erase the ones I don't use for a while. But yes, I know open table. Okay, I'm not that. So I made him get open table. He has that now.

Shock now has open table. Okay. And has he continued on? No, just did that one time? It didn't really start anything. Maybe Valentine's Day, though. He's going to have to take charge. He doesn't just do it.

Yeah, I mean, do you gift for Valentine's? I mean, I feel like it's a girl's college. I feel like he should be giving me a gift, right? And also planning the day and planning the night. Who planned the trip? Well, it was like a work trip, so it got already planned. But you know what? He did, right when we first got engaged, he goes, I'm a dumb guy and you just need to tell me what are holidays you need a gift for.

I was like, Christmas. My birthday. Maybe Hanukkah. No kidding. I just did Valentine's Day. And then I'm, and then I stopped at those three. And then I was like, oh, I said, and I said, you know, if we ever have it, like, a real anniversary. And then I thought I should have said, like, Labor Day.

Yes. Any day, anything that says holiday. And Halloween. Martha Lowe's the King Day. MLK. Yeah, yep, yep. All the days. All the days.

I really, are you in love language, gift giving? It is a little bit, yeah. And this is touch, so I feel like, I feel so superficial. Oh. But it's the truth. No, you don't, you know, superficit. Who doesn't love gifts? Even just a little gift, like bring me flowers.

It's the thought. It's all I need. Or even like plan a freaking dinner. That would be great. I feel great about that. That makes me really happy. Because then you know that that person's thinking. I agree.

And he's like thinking like what I would like. And is he all school? Does he open the door for you? He does. God, he's good. Even when I get in a car. That's important.

He's such a gentleman. And hopefully it never stops. I know. I love that. My sons are gentlemen like that because my late husband was the same way. And I feel like it's important. And a lot of that is gone from this. How old are your sons are these people?

Just kidding. I'm probably too old for them anyway. Well, I have a 35 and a 29. I'm 41. Well, not that bad. But if they're not single, but they're married. The one's about to have a baby. Sorry. Yeah, no, don't be sorry. All good. Okay, so I guess

we should talk about single Valentine's Day, right? I love for you to tell me. Okay, so. I don't have any plans. I mean, I could totally lie and say, yeah, I'm doing this like Galantines Day. So do you feel down in the dumps about it or are you feeling fine about it? I just feel like it's another day. I'm not, I'm not, I celebrate holidays. Don't get me wrong. But like, even birthdays, like, unless, I mean, it's not like I feel the pressure to have to do

anything. But I'm also not like, oh, this is so sad. Like, this is actually empowering. I love me. And I'm also, not in that sense where I'm like egotistical about it, but it's like, you know, I enjoy my day. It's just like any other day in a sense where it's like my mood doesn't change. Nothing will change. It'll just be, oh, maybe I'll give my dog a little cute little heart, you know, toy. I'll eat a little extra chocolate today or something. But I'm not like down and a nice. Maybe when I was first divorced, maybe I was a little bit, which is a change. It was a change. I had a person that you did fucking Valentine's Day with, and then all of a sudden you didn't. Yes. Yes.

Yeah. So when my husband passed away, Valentine's Day wasn't the day that got me. Our anniversary was. I'm sure. So that was a little harder. But I was the same way about Valentine's Day. I kind of feel like it's a little bit of a made-up holiday. It really is.

And I was okay not celebrating that. I mean, it's a good excuse to wear pink around. It is. You look good and pink around it. Yeah. So it's good. I think it's good day to eat a little extra chocolate. And to help others feel like who are sad about it.

You know, it's like because it's really not that sad. Do you have a lot of single girlfriends? I do. Yes. Not tons. I mean, so I moved. So in one year, I divorced my husband. I divorced the show and I moved out of my home in Los Angeles for 16 years. I know. Crazy. This is just my personality. I'm like all in or nothing. But so I since I've moved, it's been a long distance friendship with my friends. Okay. Yeah. But you don't have a lot. You don't have a lot here. That's not where I live. Yeah. No. Okay. All right. So. All right. So Gallant's Day isn't like probably in your future. But although once again, made up.

holiday. Yeah. Or like if it's a last minute thing, you know, I'll hear about it and then I'll get the dog sitter and I'll drive two hours away to LA. So it's not that big deal. Yeah. I mean, I just don't put a lot of emphasis on it, but I know a lot of women are sad about it. And it's like, you know what? We should gift ourselves. Like we should do, we should give back to ourselves, whether that be spending an extra five, 10 minutes with your skin care or like, you know, take a bath. Like I don't, I freaking don't have time for bath. So maybe I should make the time to take a bath, you know, and like really put that. love into ourselves. I think there's so many ways to do this. Right. You don't have to have receive it from a man. You can receive it or a man doesn't have to receive it from a woman. You can love yourself. You can buy yourself flowers. Remember that Miley Cyrus song? I love that. I don't need you. Yeah. You really can. I mean, it's flowers. Yeah. Buy them yourself. I agree. You'll pick out the ones you actually like. Thank you. Welcome to the A building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Mena Lake Lamouba. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr., had both been assassinated,

and Black America was out of breaking point. Writing and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia at Martin's Almemata, Moore House College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King Sr., and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution, I mean, people would die.

In 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind. Listen to the A building on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the middle of the night, Sasquia awoke in a haze. Her husband Mike was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever.

I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. To keep this secret for so many years, he's like a season 12. pro. This is a story about the end of a marriage,

but it's also the story of one woman who was done living in the dark. You're a dangerous person who prays on vulnerable and trusting people. Your predator might go up and good. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Bowen-Yin-Yin. And I'm Matt Rogers. During this season of the Two Guys' Five Rings podcast,

in the lead-up to the Milan-Cortina 2026 Winter Olympic Games, we've been joined by some of our friends. Hi, Bob, hi, Matt. Hey, Elmo. Hey, Matt, hey, Bowen. Hi, Cookie. Hi.

Now, the Winter Olympic Games are underway, and we are in Italy to give you experiences from our hearts to your ears. Listen to two guys, five rings on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. What do you do in the headlines

don't explain what's happening, inside of you. I'm Ben Higgins, and if you can hear me, is where culture meets the soul, a place for real conversation. Each episode, I sit down with people from all walks of life, celebrities, thinkers, and everyday folks,

and we go deeper than the polished story. We talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope. We get honest about the big stuff, identity when you don't recognize yourself anymore, loss that changes you purpose when success is in a number, peace when your mind won't slow down, faith when it's complicated.

Some guests have answers. Most are still figuring it out. If you've ever felt like there has to be more to the story, this show is for you. Listen to if you can hear me on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So what should our listeners do you think this Valentine's Day if they're single? If they're single. Or if they're even not single and feeling down about it. Yeah, you know what?

Some people are married or have a relationship. And they feel like they're single. It's not feeling great anyway. Yeah. I think you kind of hit the nose, the nail on the head, by saying, like, showing that you love yourself. Yeah. You know, because you don't need somebody else to show you. Like, be good to yourself.

I think it's a lesson that we all have to learn because I don't think it's something that comes really naturally. No. Like most of us are giving to other people, to our family, to our kids, to our dog, to whatever. And they don't believe in giving to themselves first. And they don't take care of themselves. So I feel like you are. teaching a really, like, sound advice on this Valentine's Day. And I think we're lucky we had you here to say that because I don't think that

everybody realizes that. I think they feel like it's selfish. Yeah. And we don't do it. The thing is, I just interviewed this doctor and we were talking about this exact topic. And I was like, but you, if there is no you, you're not giving back to anybody, right? So, like, until you take care of yourself first and it's like put your mask on before you have to.

You have to. Because then you're not here. You're not present. How can you even give? You can pretend to give, but you're not really giving if you're not fully feeling. You're not your best self. And if you're not your best self and how can you be your best self? You need to take care of that.

Yeah. You need to do you first, always. I started you that a little bit. Good. And the way I do it is by like disconnecting a little bit. Like no phones. Yeah. Like I'll like not look at my phone for a few hours or I'll go up in my room and I'll

binge watch some stupid show. For you. And I feel like I used to feel really guilty about that. Like I should be doing something more productive. I could like, you know, do a million of the things. I should go see my mom or I should walk my dog or I should cook dinner for somebody or whatever. Like, I'll just say no. I'm up to upstairs and like spend the next two hours, like binge watching Houseways of Salt.

Is that what you're watching? That's what I did most recently. That's why it came to mind. I just did it. Yeah. So I watched like half a season of Salt Lake City. And so the more you do it, the less guilty. I kind of feel like, yeah, it's like one of those things like shock therapy.

Like just do it. And the more you do it, and the more you do, the more comfortable it feels. It's rewiring the brain. And it's going to feel uncomfortable. It's like a new habit you're developing. You have to step out of your comfort zone and train that side of you. And it'll just feel better every time you do it. And I make a big deal of it.

Like I get my Lola blanket and I pull that up. I love Lola blanket. That's a great Valentine's Day gift, by the way. But order it now because they're always sold out. You'll take forever. And I finally just got the color that I really like that I have back. It's like a caramel-y color. I just got a pillow.

I just got the pillows. Oh my God. I'm obsessed. So I get my Lola blanket. I get my cup of hot chocolate. Do your dog have a dog? Do they have a little blankets through the dogs? I got my dog, the dog, the dog,

Lola bed. Oh, God. I don't think I can, I can spoil her that much. And it was too big, of course. But she, like, I could fall asleep in that thing. And let me just tell you, great Valentine's Day Gifts. If he was really funny, I just got my grandson, a dog bed.

He loves my dog's bed and he gets in the bed with her all the time. So I'm like, you know, I'm buying your own. And I brought it home. I was like, to my daughter, I go, don't think I'm like being really weird. I got, I got Maverick a dog bed because he loves it. He loves the dog bed. He's two. It's perfect.

Yeah. We spoil our dogs, don't we? Let's talk about Hallie Berry quickly. Yeah. I mean, first of all, I didn't realize that she's been married four times. Good for her. Who has she been married to four times? I don't know.

Who knows? But like, she's gorgeous. She's beautiful. She's like just in, she looks the same. She never changes. She has a beautiful skin. But she also, I love their, first of all, I didn't even. even know that she was in a relationship actually until this article, but they've kept it under

wraps a little bit. So who is she out flaunting? Why don't we know who this is? Hallie Berry's engaged to Van Hunt's singer-songwriter. So basically, Hallie Berry was on that late night talk show and Jimmy Fallon, I believe. And I think something was mentioned about, so are you engaged or did you call off an engagement? Someone in the audience was like getting jealous a little bit. And she's like, no, no, no, I just want to be clear. She's like, I am and I accepted the proposal, but we just don't have a date yet. Okay. So. I have that too. Yeah. Oh, really? I know Hallie Barry, but. But what's your sorry? I accepted the proposal. Right. Like, there's no hurry. Like, she really is no rush. She's 59. She's 59. Yeah. Like, we're not in that stage in life when we're

having babies. We're not building lives. We already have lives. Right. So you're not, like, putting anything in limbo by not getting married. That's what she said. She's like, we are fine. Like, we are okay, married or not married. You know, what she doesn't want to do is just, like, create all these expectations. Yeah. And it's like, they love each other regardless. And honestly, maybe she's been married three other times.

Yes. I think three other times or four other times. She's been married enough times. So she's married three other times. And maybe marriage is not, maybe that's not super successful for her. Maybe she should be one of those people that just stays engaged. Yeah, maybe.

It is different when you do finally tie the knot. I mean, would I get married again? I don't, yeah, sure, but it's not like something I need to do. Right. Wouldn't you have done it? Like, I've done it. I agree with you. I think I'll get married again.

Do you guys have a date? We don't have a date. So I have a son getting married this summer. And I have some son that got married last summer. So like I don't want to take anything away from them. No. Talking I've been in the spotlight. We don't need to be like in fact, I don't want to be.

So it's a lot to plan a wedding. It takes a lot to plan a wedding. Also, that's a lot of work. I don't even want to make dinner reservations, as you know. Are you planning? Do you have a wedding planner? They do, yeah, yeah. And are you planning on getting one?

If I do, when I do it, when I do it, yes, I probably will. Now, I don't know. Maybe it's just be super small that I won't need one. Yeah. Like, I'm good at planning events. Yeah. I just feel like I, I just had two. Like, every, each summer I've had a wedding.

I've already married off my daughters. I did, I know those ones I did plan on. I had a wedding planner. That was a lot of work. And then I have some more grandkids in the works right now, too. So I have some being born in June. So I've got a busy life. I don't know.

I'm not going on. I'm up making a wedding. And maybe you'll have a winter wedding. Why summer? Maybe I'll see what Hallie Berry does and I'll just copy hers. Exactly. Exactly. So we're going to sting tonight.

Do you think a concert's a good place to meet single men? Gosh, I think it kind of depends on where you are at a concert. I think we'll probably be in a box. We're usually in a box. I know it's going to be so loud. You're right. It's very, very hard to talk. And this is as loud as my voice gets.

I can try, but then I'll lose my voice. I will lose my voice. I won't be able to talk tomorrow. I actually lost my voice. I didn't have a voice this morning after just being out last night talking to people in that kind of night air. I don't think it's a great place. I mean, I think it's a great place because there are a lot of people.

A lot of people have a lot of different ages. But I agree with you. It's usually too noisy. Yeah, I'm not planning on meeting anybody, but maybe that's when you do. That's exactly right when you least expect it. So where this cute outfit? No, I've got another cute one. We were changing the look tonight.

Are you? Oh, yeah. Okay. I'm going casual. Well, this is my version of casual. I was born in heels. I'm not in the womb in heels. You literally look like you could walk a red carpet right now.

Thank you. You look so pretty. Thanks. I did my own hair and makeup. I'm very proud of myself. Yeah, you're good at it. Thanks. This is my new passion in life, literally. Is that right? Oh, yeah. Make yourself beautiful. I just love to learn whatever it is. And right now, do you watch a lot of like the videos. This is all I do. I know. I watched you. I watched one prior to getting ready. I was like, okay, let's do this. So fun. You did a good job. Thank you so much. You can meet somebody tonight.

I'll be your wing man. I'll be your wing man. Yes, please. How fun. If you like, I'll go, I'll be like, I'll go bring him over. That one right there. If we're going to be in our own little secluded box, just like, you can like, you know, I'm never going to meet anyone behind closet door number one in my home. No. We'll make a lap out in the real world. Yeah.

We'll make some laps. The real world scares me. All right, Joan. It's been so fun hanging out. So fun. I, um, so if you're single as well, like I am and you're in your chapter two, want to change your status, but need some help. You can always call us or email us.

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