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Episode Date: June 6, 2026

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We're here to talk all things dating and to find out, will sorority situationship survive this summer? Hey, Allison. Hello. It's nice to meet you. Nice to meet you, too. We heard that you have like a story about like an abroad breakup or something along that line. Yeah. Okay, fill us in.

What happened? And where did you, where do you go to school? Did you say? I go to Cal Poly Slow and I'm in San Luis Obispo right now too, but I'm from San Francisco. Okay, cool. Awesome. Yes. But the summer before I went abroad, I met this guy also from the same school as me too.

And I ended up clicking very well with him and just like I feel like I was treated kind of very nice just being like taken out to dinner or just on nice things that like I felt like, wow. like this is like a really good guy. And I feel like I was in such a weird situation because it was so difficult because I was also leaving for abroad and I was studying abroad in Italy, which I was really excited for, but it was like hard to move forward with that situation with him just because of the distance and like how it would play out. So I think I was really excited to just become very independent abroad and I feel like just gained a lot of new experiences.

But at the same time, I did. I'd continue wanting to talk to this guy and see where things go. And I was studying abroad for four months. And we ended up trying to keep in contact a little bit, but I ended up not really working out, like, as I wanted it to. Because I just think a lot, like, changes over four months. And, yeah, and then I came back from abroad and then just ended up just, like, being different, which was kind of frustrating, but also, like, I was happy kind of about, like,

where I was at in my own life when I came back and just kind of how things played out too. What changed when he came back? So, like, he had asked me if I, like, was talking to anyone abroad and I, like, really, like, I wasn't. Like, there was one new guy that I did me abroad and I was, like, honest with him. And I told him about that. And then as soon as I said that, like, I met another guy there. But, like, I'm still, it's like, he lives in Italy.

Like, nothing's going to happen after that. I think things started to change when I said that, which kind of sucked. So do you think we're into it kind of than you were? I don't, I honestly, like, maybe he was. And I think I could tell during that summer it was definitely like in his head about how things would possibly change when I did go abroad. And like I was thinking about that a lot too. But I was also very excited to have that experience at the same time that it was really, it was hard to prioritize. both things in my life.

Oh, definitely. Like, you were, like, probably having the time of your life and, like, doing all these new experiences. So I honestly, I think that's, like, great that you went and did that and weren't, like, especially if you weren't, like, together together that you didn't have that. Yeah. In a way.

It didn't sound like you let him hold you back at all, which is awesome. Because, like, it's like, that opportunity, I can almost guarantee, like, when I traveled through Europe years ago, like, it's some of my favorite memories where you're free. You meet people. There's nothing holding you back. And it sounds like you really let that happen. And if he was,

and if he was ready for it, maybe just he wasn't ready, like mature enough to really understand, like she needs this for herself. And if, like, if he was mature enough, you probably would understand it.

Yeah. Exactly. I feel like distance is difficult when it comes to situationships, especially over the summer. Like I've had a few where it's just, it's difficult to move on when you,

like, are in the same area over the, the summer, but then you leave different places after. It's just it's hard. I feel like sometimes to move forward with just like what's to come with the distance, especially when you're starting off a relationship too. Yeah, for sure. So are you dating anyone now? Are you single? I'm not dating anyone right now. I am single. I'm really excited to just graduate college and kind of just to see what comes next. Well, thank you so much for coming on and I'm so excited for you in this next chapter. Thank you. Thank you so much, Daisy and Jason. I appreciate talking to you guys.

Hey, Sarah. Hi. Nice to meet you. Thank you. Where are you at? I'm actually in Madrid. Oh my gosh. So you're abroad right now. I'm abroad, but I move home tomorrow.

Oh, how long are you there for? Madrid, I was here six months. Did you have the best time ever? It was awesome. It was the best time on my life. So the issue is when I moved. abroad. I met, I met somebody like pretty early on in the experience and he's actually from here. And it was, you know, it's been going great and really hit it off. Like, honestly hit it off with him more than I have. If anybody at home, which is really crazy because he's from Madrid,

like, you know, like born and raised here. And, but we've like, I mean, I move home tomorrow. So it's like, what do I do? We haven't set like a clear expectation. Like there's honestly been no expectation. And how do I, if I had been staying like with more time, I almost feel like, you know, things would have progressed and like I just don't know whether to leave it here, bring it home with me. I expect anything. I know. I was like, this is like a story. This is not a relationship. This is like what you see on TV. A movie.

move back post-grad like who knows like i don't i don't really know but it's kind of it's kind of sad like going back and having met someone so great so are you guys what time is it there like are you gonna have you said goodbye yet or are you going to see him like no no i'm going to see why i have all day tomorrow i like go home at like 3m my flight 6 am the next day so so have you kind of been so you've been to they're like six months so have you like basically been together like six months or like five months or like um more like four and a half like i met i'm kind of like i would say like a month and a half two months into this and i don't know it's been so long but i don't know it's going so well but like what do you do like and it's probably more intense like

i felt like when you travel it's more intense like when you meet somebody like your time's so limited and it gets more intense than it would maybe at home yeah because like there's no like end point there's no limit like you're just home like you've been known that I'm supposed to only only be here like till the beginning of June and so now we're kind of like here and it's like what do I'm like obviously you're going home tomorrow so I'm like I feel like almost once you get home like see how you feel right I mean like what else do you do you ever been like no he's only been he's only been to New York. He's never been to California.

Do your parents know about him? I've like told my mom. My mom and I are really close. Like she knows everything. But like, yeah, she's like kind of just like ride it out see where it goes. Yeah. Talk to him maybe like, I mean, who knows? Like I had a friend actually who went abroad once.

And she actually moved back to like be with the guy she met, which is kind of a crazy story. And I'm like, could that be me? But like, I don't know. I don't know if I see myself moving back to Europe. Like, that's just so crazy to think. It's only like a year away. But how would just keep everything open? Like, it's such, like, it may or may not work out.

Like, who the heck knows? But having that experience, you know, I've got friends that met years ago traveling abroad and they're still married. You know, and they've lived overseas and they've lived locally. I'm just wondering, like, is he same age as you? like same kind of experience in dating and all that? He's a little bit older. I mean, he graduated about two years ago. So he's just been working, but like same age range.

Slightly different, but yeah. Well, that's good. I mean, just like as long as he's not like some young, yeah, hasn't dated much, you know, that might be different. But like somebody who's got experience and you're clicking so well. Yeah, totally. I just wouldn't shut. Like, if you feel like long distance is too hard,

and you've done it for several months and like it's just like breaking your heart but i don't know why not keep an open mind keep it yeah is that what you want yeah totally like i've never like hit it off with someone like so great like him like i feel like dating culture is like so different back at home that it's been so fun to see like the way like guys like like in my age group act here and so like it's been like I don't want to like just like discredit it and be like oh that was just like a broad fun because like you know like you miss all the shots you don't take I think you got the right attitude I think I think you keep on going with that attitude and what's the worst the best case scenario is awesome the worst case scenario is I gave it a shot and it didn't work out perfectly

but I still gave it a shot yeah what's that saying like you regret the things that you don't do yeah like I don't know I like I think you've got such a good head on your shoulders thinking about this thing. And when you get home, like, have you, have you thought about for sure staying in touch or not? Yeah, definitely like, I mean, I want to. And like, I hope that's like where his heads are obviously. And like he says it is. So like, I just hope that like that's just how it goes and that, you know, distance doesn't

just like completely like kind of break what we like have built this far like right off the bat, you know. Yeah. definitely. I'm sure it'll be difficult, like, going back home, too, but I feel like it'll be a good way to, like, figure it out and, like, what Jason was saying, just, like, stay open to, like, that and, like, other, like, opportunities and people, too, I feel like, and you never know. Yeah, you never know at all. Like, it's like, you never know. It's the bad, like, that feeling that you're having is so good and so intoxicating. Just see if it keeps on going. Like, no,

Knowing that he's, you know, not, you know, two years younger than you and he's got dating experience, he probably knows more about what he wants versus a younger guy, which is awesome. Yeah. And I think if you do too, then, I mean, I think listen, listen to mom. Mom nailed it. I mean, if she's saying go for it, I need to, yeah. Like, have you guys talked about, like, would he, I mean, I know you said you're still, like, figuring out and stuff. Like would he ever be open to like moving to the U.S.? Has he ever mentioned anything like that?

No, like we've never gone like that far as like moving. And like he knows I have like one year of college left. So I feel like that kind of like stops any sort of like right now conversation from happening. Because like what is he going to do move to my college town? But like I like he knows like I love Madrid. Like I'm totally open to like coming back. Like I can't wait to come back and visit Madrid. Like things have like.

that have been said and like he's never been to California like he would love to go see what it's like and so like those types of conversations are like lead me to be like a little bit hopeful that it like you know means something um but like as of like long term it's like it's like it's not that it's not in that stage yet just be hopeful and i'm actually going to i'm actually going to barcelona in like three weeks give me his address i'll check it out yeah thanks yeah let me know what you think about Yeah. Again, like just, I know it's like the mentality is so easy to get kind of pessimistic because like you're going home and you're like it's over and I got to go back to school and I'm going to miss him. But I think if you flipped it on its head and you had a conversation with yourself what we're thinking or what your girlfriends would say and if he's actually a really good dude, like why not? Who knows what he says? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm so glad you had such a good.

good experience and honestly yeah like what Jason said just stay open and I'm excited for you there's I feel like there's like no like bad outcome of this honestly I mean it doesn't work out

you like met a great person abroad and maybe you guys can like stay in content yeah if it works out it's awesome if it doesn't like you learn like it won't feel great but like you'll be you'll be happy you went through it like you experience abroad to the fullest no one experience

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Hi. Okay, so your boyfriend, so you guys met at school then, and then how did you, like, go from a situationhip to a relationship? So it was actually an interesting path. I think a lot of my past experiences with situations kind of paved the way for how I acted in this relationship slash situationhip for a while. in the beginning I wasn't sure what he wanted and we started off as friends we were actually friends for like about a year before we started becoming a thing if you want to call it that um and so we were talking for a while but we knew we were going abroad so it was kind of like an unspoken like what's happening like I don't know and then we went into break we still talked over break over winter break before we went abroad and everything but um it was very unknown and

And then when we got to abroad, I think he just kind of wanted to see what was going on, not more, not in like a way of why I want to explore other options, but more in a, what's it going to look like? Are we going to see each other a lot? We're in a whole other continent. And then once we kind of knew that it was going to work and that we still enjoyed really seeing each other, he asked me to be his girlfriend. Were you excited?

Yeah, I'm really excited. It's been really great. And like, we went on two trips together. Yeah, we went on two trips together. I went to Lisbon and Menorca with him, so that was like really dreamy and awesome. Oh, that's so fun. What's it like now back at home? Well, he's from the Bay, so he's more near Berkeley.

And so it's kind of hard, I mean, because we've only been dating for a small amount of time. So it's like a constant adjustment where it was an adjustment abroad, and now it's adjustment being back at home. And it's been good. We're good at communicating, but I'm kind of in that limbo where I'm like, I'm not going to see him for a few weeks, and then I'm going to see him kind of rarely during summer. But so far it's good, and he's been great at communicating, so it's been really easy. And you guys are both super committed, do you think?

Yeah, I mean, I am. I think he is as well. Yeah, it's a great start. I mean, we had a kind of slow burn into, I think we were talking for like four months before we actually dated. So I think we're pretty committed. Also, I feel like, I mean, this could just be like my take on things, but I feel like a lot of times when people go abroad, like, and they're in, like, a situationhip or, like, a relationship, like, the people, everyone's kind of like, oh, I, like, I just want to have fun and, like, do me, like, abroad and

stuff. So I feel like that you guys, like, actually came closer together is, like, very telling. Yeah, I know. It's actually, I think it's really cute because, I mean, of course, my friends are like, me, are you sure you want to do this? Like, Spanish men, you know, that was like, but I think it made us, like, stronger and closer because it's like, we're doing such a big life event with each other. But yeah, it was great. That's amazing. So how do you guys keep make sure that like you guys are on the same page with everything? Because sometimes like I know that when I dated a girl a while ago, obviously long, long distance, there was some jealousy. Like do you guys, are you open about all that stuff? Like how do you guys deal with it? Yeah, we're pretty open.

I mean, I'm a psychology major. So I find it kind of easy to communicate and express my feelings. I mean, it's not the easiest thing to do for every person, but for me, I know kind of the importance of that, especially with my last situation ship. It was really deep and something I ended up happening where I kind of lost trust in like all men, to be honest. So it's been kind of not a struggle, but it's been a journey for me to be able to develop the trust and like appreciation for another person in a romantic sense. but yeah it's sorry what was the question i really got on a on a no no i'm just wondering like how

you guys deal like like you're saying you're like i'm a psych major too so i was thought it was pretty pretty easy for me to communicate but sometimes doesn't matter guy or girl that they close up and they can't deal with harder questions or some of this stuff yeah totally i feel like especially since we started out as a situation shape it's kind of like i don't know there's kind of like a barrier where it's like how much can I be myself like does this guy really like me we've been dating for I mean we've been talking for so long before dating but um I think he's a very naturally trusting person and I find it pretty easy to trust him he's been very transparent about everything I mean I can't fully speak to that I guess because I don't know what he has going on his life at all

time 24-7 but um he's in my experience been very open and And I'm someone who's kind of an open book too. And I feel like it's very necessary to have open communication with a partner, especially when now we're like long distance or medium distance or whatever. So it's kind of been surprising because I feel like in my past experiences, men aren't very good at that. But I think I find someone who actually is like really willing to put in the time and effort, which is kind of surprising.

Not about him, but just like in comparison to my past experiences. Well, I'm so happy for you and that this is like working out for you and it sounds like you found a really, really great guy. And that you guys got to like travel the world together. That's incredible. Yeah. Does he have the same energy you have? Like, you know how people like either one person's chill, one person's got more energy or both people match? Like you're like, go.

Yeah. I mean, I would say he's a little more chill than me. I think he's more outgoing actually. sometimes I feel like I can like kind of step back into my little corner. But he's very outgoing, but he's less like bubbly, if that's what you're asking. But I think it creates a balance because he's super talkative. And actually most of the time I'm not very talkative. But it's great because I feel like we kind of switch off on like, oh, I have a lot of energy today.

Or like, I want to talk a lot. And it's like, well, today I want to listen. So it's like, it's perfect. It's like a great balance. I only have one piece of advice. Not only because it's back, kind of a joke, but anytime I'm in a conversation with my wife now and I'm like, nah, don't worry, I'm a psych major. I already know this stuff. She's like, all right, a psych major is really going to help you with our relationship. So just joking, but realistically, I think, I think it's awesome.

I think you found somebody who's great and just keep an open mind about everything and keep trusting. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. And I mean, yeah, being a psych major doesn't really apply to every situation because it's very varied and like relationships are different but yeah i agree and thank you no it just gives you a different perspective on things and i do think that's helpful in any relationship well thank you so much for coming on me yeah thank you it was really really fun and new experience for me as well yes okay well you have a great rest of your day you too thank you okay bye RBC stages packed with big shows, live music and electric summer nights, featuring acts like Father John Misty,

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Are you in school? Are you graduated? So I'm a junior. I go to Cal. I'll be a rising senior next year. So I'm kind of over in Westwood right now. Just for the summer, which is really nice. So it's been great. Are you dating a grad? So I'll give like this like short and spiel pretty much. But basically, so little context is that when I was a freshman at Cal, there was a junior at Cal. we were both athletes and so like we do of each other he played baseball i'm on track and i was kind of like he's older like he has no idea who i am like he honestly shouldn't i'm a freshman that would be kind of weird and by the end of that year his junior year my freshman year he entered the transfer

portal and went to ucla um we're both from the same hometown so it was kind of just this thing of like okay like i know of you like we follow each other on instagram like but like i don't talk to you like i've never actually said hi to you, whatever. Not up until this year in February, he, like, likes one of my Instagram stories. And I was just like, oh, my God, whoa, like, hi, that's really random. Like, I know you, but I don't know you. And I remember I, like, liked one of his, like, stories. And then he liked this, like, this, like, old archived post of mine. And I was like, this is just stupid now. Like, now we're just playing phone tag. And I literally just DM to him. And I was like, hey, figured I'd reach out. like if you're going to like a post that's like two years old of mine like I'm going to reach out

he's like oh you should like please let me know like when you're in socal like I know you're from orange county or like if you're ever like visiting like UCLA like I'd love to take you out like I'd like take you out drinks and I was like yeah sure like I'm in season right now like you're also in season so like I don't know but like I'll let you know he's like okay can I have your number I was like yeah he's my number texting like 24 seven like all moments of the day for like the next next month. And then I was like, oh, funny enough, like, I'm going on spring break and I'm going to be coming home. And he was like, oh, my God, like, if there's a day that works for you, like, I would love to like take you out to dinner, like, whatever you want to do. He's like,

I can take you out to drinks. And I was like, no, I'm not 21, so we can't do that. And he's like, that's okay. And we go out and we get dinner in Browndwood. It was really fun. It was just like really good, like, banter and just, like, kind of, like, talked a lot from before. So it was, like, wait, I've been talking to you a lot already. And, like, I know you, but I don't know you. And it was just like, it was very, like, seamless and easy. And it was great. And then we kept talking for a while after.

And, like, honestly, like, up until now when I, like, came back home, it was just kind of, like, all this, like, are you in L.A.? Like, are you back yet? Like, like, just kind of, like, wanting, like, updates of just, like, when I, because you know, I was going to be back home. in L.A. And so, but now it's kind of just this thing of like, okay, well, like, this is like my first week back. And I literally think I'm seeing him later today, which is hilarious. I think I'm going out to dinner with him. I just haven't confirmed if I want to yet or not.

Why wouldn't you want to? I don't know. I'm more so just like, I'm really tired right now. And like, we'll see, like, kind of like, I'm also like supposed to do something with like family later too. But my parents were both like if you want to go on like a date you can go but I'm like oh like I feel bad um but it's more sort of an odd thing of like I just turned 21 he's 23 turning 24 like he was a fifth year like this year while I was a junior it's like I'm going back up to Berkeley and like he's going to like I don't know figure out what he's going to do with his life like graduating like starting real life kind of stuff so I'm more so just like I don't really know like what to expect

over the summer of just like, should this just be like a summer fling or if I should like think about having like higher expectations? Like I feel like I'm kind of the person where I'm just like, I love my life. Everything is great for me. My friends are great. My family's great.

School is great. Running is great. Works great. To where like as long as those things are like in line for me, like I just like become just like more emotionally available. And I'm not like a like very like reserved or like closed off person. it's more so just like I don't want to get my like hopes up or like put in more if like it's not gonna be anything crazy.

So that's kind of my situation in the shortest that I could tell it. I feel like you need to go on more dates with them. Yeah, don't put don't put a wall. Like I feel like that there may be a wall that you're putting up before you even know. Okay. Don't you, do you feel like like is there a reason for that? Like any other relationship that maybe didn't work out or and I get like like the opposite of a college athlete, like seriously, but at the same time, I know how focused you have to be for my friends,

but are you curious about, are you, but you're curious about him, right? I'm definitely curious about him because I'm like, we got along great. He's like a really, like, really great guy. And like the other thing that like kind of sold me a lot too is like my older friends at Cal who like were at school with him when he was still there. Like, all just had like wonderful things to say about him. And all of them were like really like happy and shock that we were talking. And they're like, like, like my girlfriend's, too that like knew him and they're like you need to keep going out with him like he's awesome he's so funny like he's so sweet and i'm just kind of like oh my god like oh no it's happening you know it's like

oh my god like i have a crush like no like i don't you know just stradle yourself oh my god like i don't want to do that right now no that's good i feel like it's good i feel like it's good i feel like it's good i think the only thing that like makes me have walls up is just like wait it's such a like the thought of like it working out is like yeah it's great like he could be a great guy for it to work out with I think more situational wise of just like oh my god like I have to like go back to school like I have to go back up to norcal eventually and like do senior year and like it seems like kind of just like different ends of like oh I wish I met you like earlier I wish we were like at the same age like at like the same point like in college with like graduating but like it's so different ends of the spectrum to where that's where I'm like, oh my God, is it like even makes sense kind of thing? Are you a planner?

Yes. Yeah. I think there's never a right time. Like I feel like always in the past when I've been in relationships, like I'm always like, oh, well, this won't work out because this and like I'm going back for the summer, like random things like that. I always like overthought. And I think like I feel like just going for it is like the best possible outcome because

then either you find out it works or you find out it does. work and then you won't spend all this time like wondering right i mean i just wonder you've got so many good things in your life right are you almost in some way like i don't want to spoil what's like everything's good i feel like i'm like everything's good to where like that's like itself what makes me like emotionally available just like wait like i'm really happy right now like yeah i can like show up and like be great for another person if it's like kind of reciprocated as well like i feel like I'm pretty always good with like balancing my people out like making sure that like, you know, like if they're giving a hundred, I'm giving a hundred like vice versa and like

keeping up with those relationships. Like I, there's nothing that I hate more than when people are like, I'm busy or like, I can't, I'm busy or this and that. It's like, no, you don't even know what busy is. Like, we none of us know what busy is. We're all like young 20 year olds. Like you're not busy. So I feel like in that regard of like going into like next year of like me having enough time

and then like me being able to like manage everything that I have going on like really well. But then like on his end, he's just like, oh wait, like I don't know what I'm doing with my life. And I'm graduated and I need to like figure out like how I'm not going to be living at home for the rest of my life. It's like I'm here and I'm good. But like I don't know what you're doing. But the one benefit I think of both of you guys being college athletes is you both under he'll know you're. I mean, I don't like it's different training totally getting it. But he'll know the busy.

that it takes to do. And I think that's an interesting card to play at first. Like, if he doesn't respect that, I don't know that saying. Maybe he's like, go do you. You're the best, be the best version of yourself. But if he didn't respect that, that'd be a red flag right away. But if he does respect that and things end up being good. And what if he fits into your perfect puzzle?

Mm-hmm. Yeah. If there is a perfect puzzle. Right. Yeah. I know. It's just, it's tricky. It's very tricky.

You're scared. I'm a little scared. because I'm just like, oh, like, you know, like everyone like R.H has been down this road so many times of just like, it's again, like, oh my God, I have a crush. Like someone killed me right now because I don't even want to go down this road. Which keeps stress, yourself. Well, I think you should go on the date and then you can fill us in. Okay. Wait, yeah.

You should definitely go. Yeah. And I'm also like, oh, like he's offering like a nice date. So that's why I'm kind of like, oh, like I might need to. I feel like it's better than if it was like a, oh, like, come over and whatever. like wait, no, I'm not doing that. But if it's like, okay, you're off for me to go to dinner. Like, I haven't seen you in a little bit.

Because the very last time that I saw him, like, we've only seen each other and like hung out once within this entire period of time because I was just gone and he was gone and like he was traveling for baseball and then I was traveling for track and like, whatever. But like the last time that I saw him, I was like, hey, well, like, this was great. Like, I don't know if I'll ever see you again. But like, bye. And he was like, what are you talking about?

like we're from the same hometown like summer and I was like I mean like I guess like I don't know though it just seems like one of those situations of like it doesn't make sense but it could make sense if it's like the right person I'm just like is he giving you any reason not to trust him like no okay I feel like you need to go on the date and then report back to us because I'm listening to daisy and just go for it okay yeah I'm gonna have like Lauren like message you to make sure you on the date after this. No, I'm kidding. And give the recap.

I would say more so a piece, a question that I would have is this like, if you guys were in my position and how long would you kind of like, if we kept going on dates, like, how long would you let things kind of go until it was like, all right, like, kind of a ticking time bomb of like, I'm going to go back to school and you're got to go to do whatever until it's like the question of like, what are we doing? What are we? Like, I think you need to go on, like, more dates and, like, hang out more to figure it out and then see if it, like, more becomes out of that. And then, like, if you're leaving and go back to school, like, you guys can have that conversation or if it pops up before that.

But if it goes that long, I mean, it's June. When would you leave? Probably, like, August for school. Yeah, like mid-August. I mean, you got, like, two months. So I feel like if it keeps going well, like, why not? And you come across as, like, a super transparent, open person. And I think he would know real quick if he doesn't respect what all the important.

Like there are so many things that are going on in your life. But there's a good chance that he'll respect it. I mean, if he doesn't, then, you know, that's okay too. And you just move on and you've got your perfect life. Right. Yeah. I want a perfect life. No, I'm excited for you.

Okay, so plan is go on that date. Go on the date. Send us a message. Let us know how it goes. Okay. I will do that. And then I'll report back to you guys. on if this is out or not by the time I'm a senior.

Perfect. Well, thank you for coming on. Thanks for talking, guys. This was so fun. God. Good talk to you. Okay. You guys have a great one.

See. Bye. Okay. I'm going to ask Jason and couple questions. Jason, how should girls bring up the what are we conversation or should they? They have to bring it up. Like, when I think about this, what if thing, and obviously I'm removed from this, but I talk to my son about this all the time.

the bigger picture I'm hearing from all these girls is that they're scared of what maybe the other person is thinking or feeling. And like the one girl was saying like the chill girl, like whatever she was saying like you want to be like the chill girl. But I'm like you also don't have for there forever and wonder. I think and I don't know if you have this perspective after being out of college for a few years now. It's like even going on The Bachelor or what's going on with you and Thor, life's short. The worst thing that's going to happen in all this stuff is a relationship doesn't work out. And we've all been there. And that's not that terrible.

Yeah. No, I agree. Yeah. So I think they should have the conversation too. Okay. And then next question. What percent of sorority relationships do you think will survive the summer? Survive the summer.

Like keep on date. I think a good percent survive the summer. But not a big percent survive. the next first quarter. Because you get back into it. And if you're really involved with your sorority and if he's in a fraternity, all of a sudden you're back in this mix of like meeting new people, busyness and all that kind of stuff.

I mean, it's like what percent of relationships work out anyways? We talked about it like maybe 5 percent and then maybe 20 percent make it through the summer. Yeah. It's probably a small amount. But I don't like the same to the last question. The worst thing that happens is it's over.

And then you move like and then you move on. I think like all my friends or like all throughout college, I think like the only, we only have like one couple of like the college friend group that's still together. And then me and Thor obviously got back together. But everyone else has like broken up and is either. That's still a good story. Like you guys,

it doesn't have to be the perfect like path. Like I have one friend from college that married his like same thing. First weekend at an event. they met and they got married. But that's such a small percentage. But there's probably a percentage like you that date and then get back together. You get back together farther down the road. Yeah.

Yeah, totally. Interesting. This was like one of my favorite episodes. Thank you for doing it. Yeah, I just hope people could get it. Like, I know how scary it is. And maybe it's just like life experience or going through different stuff. But I think if you open yourself up and try different things, it's not going to be that bad.

I mean, maybe it hurts for a week or two weeks. Yeah. These girls can do it. Yeah, they got it. They got it. Well, thank you for listening in. And thank you, Jason, again, for co-hosting with me. This was so fun.

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