The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Slip N Slide

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

Jana is going full throttle to help Kelly find love, coaching her on how to slide into the DMs by making her send a message to an Oscar winner during the podcast!Does he respond?Plus, was love in the ...air at Jingle Ball?Are holiday concerts the perfect place to find your I Do, Part 2?Email us at: IDOPOD@iheartradio.com or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh, my God, perfect.
Starting point is 00:00:55 And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. I'm Dr. Joy Hardin-Bradford, host of the Therapy for Black Girls podcast. I know how overwhelming it can feel if flying makes you anxious. In session 418 of the Therapy for Black Girls podcast, Dr. Angela Neal-Barnett and I discuss flight anxiety.
Starting point is 00:01:22 What is not a norm is to allow it to prevent you from doing the things that you want to do. the things that she were meant to do. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. it. And now you are getting back out into the dating scene. Well, I'm one of your host, Jana Kramer. And today I wanted to touch base with one of our celebrity mentors. You love her on this podcast, former real housewife of New York, Ellie Benzeman. Kelly, can I just first, just, can we just talk about how beautiful you looked at the IHeart Radio, jingle balls? Jingle balls, jingle bells, jingle ball, jingle ball, jing balls.
Starting point is 00:02:28 I mean, you just, and it was so funny, my husband, when, you know, I had my husband come in and meet everyone because he hasn't met the I do part two crew. He's like, I feel like I've seen her. I was like, she was probably up like on a, you know, like you probably had her on your walls or something because she's, she's a, she's a model. She's beautiful. He's like, yeah, she's like, she's a beautiful lady. I was like, I know. She's stunning. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:50 That's so nice. Oh my God. You guys, you guys are the greatest couple. You guys are so sweet and loving and just, oh, God, you're just like the perfect couple. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, that's very sweet to say. I don't know if there's, do you actually believe that there's a perfect couple?
Starting point is 00:03:06 I believe, I mean, you guys have that. I mean, you guys have just like nice, really just quality energy. It's just like, you know, he's really respectful of you and you're really respectful of him. And I just think that's just like, those are like couple goals when you have like, the, you know, mutual admiration, mutual respect. That's just, I mean, thank you. And it's, you know, it's, Jenny has that too. The word perfect is, yeah, and her husband is.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Yeah. I'm just the one. No. I'm not one out. No. Not at all, but let's, let's talk about it all. There's always one ugly duckling. Oh, oh my.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Says the model, says the, you know, beautiful, tall, thin model. So let's, let's take it back to Los Angeles because. Yes. we, we'll take it back all, all the way to L.A., but also, you know, you shared some things on the last podcast that we did that, you know, you've been kind of talking to two different people. So I want to, I want to touch on that. But I also want to see, you know, we had some listeners come out and what was, what, what was the vibe? Like, how did it, how did it go for, for you and the listeners there? Was there anything that, um, you noticed or,
Starting point is 00:04:22 anything happened that I didn't see because I was truth be told I you know I'm I'm kind of old in the area where it's like I always prefer to go home and be in my cozies but I'm like you know what babe I'm like there's a VIP suite that we're invited to let's go up there and just have some fun and I'm so glad we did because it was genuinely such a good time but I saw you guys over there and I you know I was I was rooting and I'm like all right I hope I hope it's going good but what was your thoughts? Well, first, if I saw you in your cozy slippers, so you're like, so cute. I was like, that was the only way I was going to make it. I'm like, if I'm going up there, I'm changing my heels to slippers. So I can still all still rock the outfit, but like, I need to be somewhat cozy. Right. I love that.
Starting point is 00:05:07 You look so good. And I was super jealous. I was like, oh, God, it's like, I'm like in these, like, I was like, literally, I think it was like 6-1 on Friday night, which was fun and tall. They're just, you know, the guests were just, they're really, really, really nice girls, really, really nice. And they've been through so much. So when we were, we were in the car, you weren't in the car with us. And I sat in the back with them and was just listening to their stories. And they were telling me their stories, I mean, of just infidelity.
Starting point is 00:05:41 And, I mean, I was shocked. I was really shocked to hear the stories that these guests had gone through. I was really, really shocked. And so that even gave me more of an impetus to be like, let's have fun at IHR and just, you know, have so much fun at Jingle Ball. You know, I always feel like, I was actually talking to my youngest daughter about this. I always feel like when you're in a situation like that, it's not always like you're looking to date someone,
Starting point is 00:06:12 but it's just nice to just genuinely be open to meeting a lot of different people. And, you know, I saw a lot of people that I knew and I just was literally walking around with them and I introduced them to like, I literally was just smiling at people and people were like, hi. And I was literally just introducing them to absolutely everyone that was responding to, you know, a six foot one smiling woman. It was fun. We had a really, really good time. We had a really good time. One guy was there and he was like talking to. us and he was having a great, he had like serious jewelry game on, like these massive diamonds. And I was talking to buy this jewelry. And his wife came out. And she was like, what did he say? I was like, I don't know, but that jewelry game is firing. She was really cute and funny. And so we had a really nice time just like chatting with them. And afterwards, they were like, you tell you we were talking to the wife. I'm like, so? I'm like, by the way, like, you're single and I'm single. You never know who people know. And they could be like, oh my God, she was really fun.
Starting point is 00:07:13 she, you know, was just talking to us and she's, you know, just having a good time. And, like, I couldn't care less if she's married or not. Like, I'm not trying to go after her husband. I'm just having, meeting people and having a good time. So we had a lot of fun. You know, I had a lot of fun introducing them to a lot of people. But with, like, what you just said, some of my best, like, memories of even going out is I've met actually girlfriends from going out and being places. And so whether it's a love connection or, you know, a man connection, it's usually, it's a people connection. You know, I met one of my best friends in the middle seat of a Southwest flight, you know, so it's like, I think it's being open to any connection when you go up.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I mean, they got to meet Teddy. They got to hang out, you know, they were hanging out with me. They got to meet a lot of people that they probably wouldn't have met from, you know, the Golden Bachelor and Bachelorette. There were a lot of people that they got to meet. And to your point, you know, you never know who you're going to meet and how you're going to meet people. And so I was just talking to everybody. And I think that's really, I mean, just from my own experience, that's how you meet great people. It's just being out and about and people just see your energy and feel your energy and you're having a good time. And they're like, oh my God, that looks like a good crew. Let's get to know them. It was about the experience.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And I think like, you know, even for me, like, okay, obviously I'm there. and my husband's on my arm. But, like, I got to sit next to Allie, you know, Larder. And I was like, that's cool. Like, I've always thought she's an amazing actress. And I took, this was kind of, like, and it took me a second. Well, she was like, it took me kind of, I'm like, I'm like, really weird when it comes to, like, people were the receipts or whatever. And, you know, some of the interns were like, do you want to sit down?
Starting point is 00:09:01 I'm like, no, no, like, you are sitting. Like, just because, like, you sit. You know what I mean? Like, so we stood up in the back, like, for most of it. And then they got up and they're like, no, sit down. I'm like, no, like, seriously. But then I'm like, okay, fine. Like, when you do that, I'm like, all right, all right, fine.
Starting point is 00:09:13 We'll sit now. So when we sat down, I noticed this really beautiful blonde next to me, and they were, they were trying to, like, take a photo. And I'm like, I'll take it for you. But when I took her phone to, like, take the photo, I was like, oh, that's Allie Larder. You know what I mean? And I'm like, she's, like, I love for work.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Do you say yourself? Well, no, but, and like, I'm like, I know she has no idea who I am. She's got to probably think that it, or she probably saw that I registered it while I'm taking their photo, you know what I mean, like her and her friend's photo. So I'm like, this is cool. But then I'm like, her camera was kind of dirty, so I like cleaned it. You know what I mean? And like, I took a, I took a picture of them. But that to that point, it was like, it was an experience. And like, I didn't know that I was like, that was cool. I got to like have an interaction with her. And then, you know, I've got to, you know, run and have, you know, see Teddy again and give her a
Starting point is 00:10:02 hug and squeeze her and then see, you know, the golden bacheloretts. Like, um, it was just fun. Yeah, they're just, they're so fun, so beautiful and so vibrant. And, you know, so yeah, I think it's all about when you go into dating worlds to remember the experience of it, because there's always going to be a new experience. One, one doesn't look the same. And to go on that, was there anything that came up for you in L.A.? Were there any old flames that might have texted you, Kelly? Or did you have any run-ins when you were there? One of my clients was like, oh, let's get drinks. And I'm like, okay. And we're sitting there. And he's telling me how he owns his vineyard. And I'm like, that's great. You know, I'm just listening to him. And then he was telling
Starting point is 00:10:48 me how he's a player. Oh. He's like, what? What guy wants, what guy just like comes up and says that? And I'm just like, that doesn't make me, first of all, you're my client. Second of all, that doesn't make me want to like, you know. And then, you know, and then he goes, you know. How old was he? He's in like 60s, mid-60. Then he goes to me, you know, Kelly, he's like, I really, I really don't like brunettes, but I'm okay with you.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Oh, my gosh. We are not, I'm not allowing you to date him. I'm sorry. I'm going to pull the mother card on this and you cannot date him. That is not for you. Who says that? I have no idea. I think that, you know, listen, as hard as it is for girls, it's the same thing with guys.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And, like, you know, we were talking, you know, about, like, you know, our game. That's what we were talking about together. And, you know, some people just think that this kind of like being aloof or saying things like, I'm so great, who are you, is going to make the other person like you more but it doesn't. I can see right through that. I'm like, okay, whatever. I'm happy to, like, you know, chat with you and have fun and, you know, have a glass of wine. and talk to you about what you're doing with your real estate career.
Starting point is 00:12:11 But I'm just not like that is not happening. That does not work for me. That's not happening. But at the concert, though, I did hear from someone saying that you were a little flirty. Was there who was? Who were you flirty with? I don't know. Who was I flirting?
Starting point is 00:12:26 That's amazing. I was flirting. I love it. You don't even know. Oh my God. There was a photographer that I know. He's so cute. And he's always like, he's like, Kelly, you're very flirtatious.
Starting point is 00:12:36 I think that, like, I'm just very easy around men, and I've, you know, I don't know if you know if I have a twin brother. And so I'm just very relaxed around men. Like the diamond guy? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The diamond guy that was married. Yeah. Oh, Kelly. I didn't know. I didn't know. He didn't know. And then his wife came out. And I was like, yeah, he's got great game. He's got diamonds and he's fun. And I know. Oh, that guy. Oh, okay. Got it, got it. You know, I always say, too, like, you never know, like, who you're going to meet and who they might know. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:09 Like, you may be like, he might be like, hey, you guys, like, I'm married, but you should meet my friend. He's over there in the suite. Like, you never know. You don't know. I met a vegan farmer. He was the other, another guy that, like, I just smiled at him. He was like, hey, and I don't know, I just started striking up a conversation for the two guests, my two friends. And, like, you know, he's telling me about being a vegan.
Starting point is 00:13:34 vegan farmer. And that's when I found out about, you know, this whole thing with my, with my love of gummy bears and how it's, you know, completely over because everything's going to be all natural and healthy. It's over. And, you know, my life is finished. But it's fine. But he was very cute. And then, yeah, and then the woman came out and she was like, that's my husband. I was like, okay, great. One thing about this whole thing about like meeting people that are married is that if you're married, if your husband or wife are married, and you can walk around and have fun with someone who's not, that's a true testament to the relationship you have with your wife.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I mean, there's men that are, like, looking for people, that's totally inappropriate if you're married. But, like, if you can have fun with people in general and just, like, laugh with them, like, there's absolutely nothing wrong with, like, you know, smiling and, like, having, like, a fun little banter with the opposite sex. Of course. What is wrong is engaging in, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:29 inappropriate activity. That is wrong. Like being like, hey, can I get your number? Exactly. Or if you find out that the person is, you know, misleading. Married or, you know, has a wife, that's when you're like, you know, you need to be respectful. Of course. I mean, I know I've, I've been married and I've had women be disrespectful to me and to my marriage. So I know what that feels like. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Same. Um, But, yeah. We're like, same. We're like, same zies.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Same zes. How does a girl go up to a man at their own, you know, bachelor party and slide their number? Like, that's just so disrespectful. Like, don't go up to the groom, you know, and give your number. Or have the groom tell me, like, that he should have married me. Oh, yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly. and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The U.S. Open is here. And on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history. The
Starting point is 00:16:24 predictions will we see a first-time winner and the pressure. King says pressure is a privilege, you know. Plus, the stories and events off the court and, of course, the honey deuses, the signature cocktail of the U.S. Open. The U.S. Open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event. I mean, listen, the whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans, whether you play tennis or not. Tennis is full of compelling stories of late.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Have you heard about Icon Venus Williams' recent wildcard bids? or the young Canadian, Victoria Mboko, making a name for herself. How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an IHeart Women's Sports Production, in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Speaking of, though, because... we've both been in some, you know, not great relationships with good, not great men. What is the quality that you're most looking for now in a relationship from a man? Like, what's the quality that you are hoping? Like, what's the number one quality you want them to have? You know, I was talking to my therapist today.
Starting point is 00:18:16 We were talking about this exact question and it's safety. It's just this emotion. I'm craving this emotional safety. It's like I give this to my kids, to my friends, you know, I make them feel like they don't have, they don't have anything in the world to worry about as long as I'm their friend, but I don't feel like that. And that's one thing that I'm craving is just to be able to be like, hey, you had a great podcast or it's raining outside or, you know, just stupid things that are just, I just want to like include that person in my life with all of those different things. that have happened, whether they're significant or insignificant. I mean, basically, everything that happens to your partner is significant if you really, really care about them. And emotional safety, I think, is something that, like, I've never had, and I'm craving
Starting point is 00:19:09 it. Right. Yeah. No, I definitely. And that's, there's a, there's such a safety, like, what it does for your soul, having that safety, it gives you so much like that peace is just that feels, it's not chaotic, you know, like you can really just kind of rest in peace. And that's a, that's a really beautiful place to be. Yeah. I don't know what that's like, but I'm looking for it. And I'm
Starting point is 00:19:37 going to get it. Out of the two guys that you talked about, because on the last episode, you talked about two guys that you were, I mean, I wouldn't say you're not like deciding between, but you're also just entertaining both. Is there one that you feel more safe with? Like, is that maybe where you'll where you'll end up or is it because I almost think okay and maybe this is wrong but so I was talking to a guy when I was you know and we were not um official or anything like that we were just kind of casually dating and you know and then I met Alan I knew immediately I was like he's done this is my person you know what I mean like yeah I just I just knew like I didn't even want to entertain anybody else um well actually that was even before but at the time like i was
Starting point is 00:20:26 wasn't talking to anyone and then when i started talking to allan he kind of came back around he was like texting me like hey you know and i'm like no like i actually like i don't want anything i don't want to do you at all so is it do you think the fact that you're even kind of like hyming and hawing the one or the other that neither one of them might not because it's like you don't have a strong pull for one you know i think that i mean i would I wish I could, I wish I could blame them, but I'm going to have to blame myself for this at this time, you know, because I've only been, I've only been going through this new metamorphosis for the past, you know, month, six weeks. And so I'm starting to recognize the things that I want
Starting point is 00:21:10 and that I, I am going to get. And so whether these guys are the greatest guys in the world, you know, I really like both of them. I think they're great. I mean, I think that one of them is really, really, really amazing guy. I just don't know, like, where he is and in terms of, like, where we would be in our life. Because, I mean, I want to get, I, it's not, people are like, do you want to get married? It's not that I want to get married, but I want a committed relationship and I want a family for my family. That's what I've always wanted since day one. That's why I got divorced. Like, I want a family for my family. And so I'm looking for that man who is going to be that partner in love crime with me and me and my family and his family. And I'm getting closer to understanding what I really want. And one thing that my therapist and I were talking about today is just there's manifesting, which was so great when I wrote that letter to my future husband. It really put a different narrative in my head versus the, you know, what's wrong with me? what, you know, people don't like me. Do I like them? You know, just all of the self-doubt. And so now
Starting point is 00:22:25 she was, she's like, I really want you to be proactive about talking positively about yourself and about what you really, really want. And what you deserve too. Because I think that's where I always went wrong was, I didn't think I deserved X, Y, and Z, you know? Yeah. So. I mean, I'm sorry for that. You're like such a, I mean, every time that we get to hang out together, I'm like, oh, I love her. But I'm glad that you're doing that manifestation though, because I do believe in that too. Like there is healing work, but there's also positive talk. And I think that's if you're going to walk around and like, I'm never going to find anyone,
Starting point is 00:23:02 well, then you're not going to find anyone because you're not going to have the outlook to find someone. And I just think positive talk is really, really important. And so, you know, where, again, like to just answer your question, you know, I'm really working hard on myself and I'm hoping that the people that are, you know, around me are seeing that. And, you know, you don't know what's going to happen in life, but I feel really good about today and I'm going to feel even better about tomorrow. I mean, write it on a postcard. That's so good.
Starting point is 00:23:38 It's so good. Write it on a postcard. I know. I mean, it's good. Okay. Let's go to just for the people that are, you know, wanting some more dating advice. When you're out and you see a cute guy and you send over a drink to get his attention, have you done that before?
Starting point is 00:23:56 Is that something that you've done? Have you ever actually bought a drink for another guy? No. Never. I mean, I haven't either. I'm curious if guys like that boldness or not. I don't know. I don't know if men would like that boldness for me.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I think that they would be kind of like, wow, who is that? What is she doing? I think that they would take it the wrong way, to be honest with you. Really? Okay, so I'm going to play devil's advocate on this one because I almost look at you and I, as I would be intimidated to talk to you. Really? Yeah. Though you're lovely and I know you now because you're so beautiful and like you're strong and like if I was a guy, I might be a little.
Starting point is 00:24:39 and which also, like, you want a strong guy, right? But I think it was, I think if you've gotten the, you know, guys are intimidated or by you or something, and it's like maybe it's okay to make the first move. So that way they know that like you want to be approached. Because a lot of times, even though girls say they want to be approached, they really don't want to be approached. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Just a theory. So that's interesting. People, I mean, there's some people that have said like that, you know, that I'm kind of intimidating but then when people meet me they're like oh my god no not at all like they're like oh my god everyone always wants to come talk to you you're smiling you're having a good time you're always like engaging people um and when they do meet me I mean I'm I'm outwardly I'm outwardly um confident but inwardly very very very very insecure really so so it's like they'll meet me and i but i'm like you know listening to jenny and she's like
Starting point is 00:25:43 follow me in the car and i'm like i would never i could never i would have crawled inside like yeah me too i'm like crawling inside my trunk i'd be like yeah i'm so like you can't do it i've always wanted to like like with the guy like that but like i i don't have that's where i'm like insecure i'm like well maybe they wouldn't want to follow me then i'm like i don't know what if he didn't what if he turned left if he didn't buy yeah My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.
Starting point is 00:26:41 It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The U.S. Open is here. And on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players.
Starting point is 00:27:06 from rising stars to legends chasing history, the predictions, well, we see a first-time winner, and the pressure. Billy Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know. Plus, the stories and events off the court, and of course the honey deuses, the signature cocktail of the U.S. Open. The U.S. Open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event. I mean, listen, the whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans, whether you play tennis or not.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Tennis is full of compelling stories of late. Have you heard about Icon Venus Williams' recent wildcard bids? Or the young Canadian, Victoria Mboko, making a name for herself? How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an IHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with deep blue sports and entertainment on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Hi, my name is Enya Jumanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. what is your biggest insecurity like you say you're you know outwardly you know confident but you know inside you know insecure so i'm curious what is what is that insecurity piece what is it telling you it's telling me this in what we talked about before about the safety it's like are they are they really interested in knowing about me as a person or me as you as You know, it's like when they talk about the idea of a person,
Starting point is 00:29:07 like I think that, and maybe this is just me being, I don't know, um, insecure, more insecure. It's just like I think the people just really like the idea. I get very, very, very insecure. That's it. I just get rawly insecure. Okay. Well, I'm going to have, oh, thank you for sharing that.
Starting point is 00:29:28 You know, I think we all deal with insecurities and, you know, um, we need to like speak truth into what. the actual truth is around it and obviously we have amazing therapists that can help us do that and friends too. Do you want to know the real reason why I'm so insecure? The real reason that I'm so insecure is because when I went on television before social media, I had just gotten divorced. And obviously, you know, my ex-husband was not faithful to me and I was, you know, had to put up with a lot of, of infidelity for the sake of my girls. And so, you know, I had the confidence to get divorced and happy that, you know, he can be a father to him in the way that's good for him and my
Starting point is 00:30:12 girls are healthy and well. But then I wanted a television show where I was literally, like, splattered against a wall for having confidence and being able to say, like, I don't like when people talk badly to me. I was really, really, I was really, I was literally, really. I was literally, literally slammed up against the wall in terms of, like, socially, and people were like, oh, is she really that mean? And I'm like, no one ever in my life has ever called me mean, ever, never, never. Okay, maybe my kids, when I won't give them what they want. Sure. Yeah. No person, even any guy, has never said that I'm mean. They've said, I'm distant. They say that, you know, certain other things, but they've never, no one ever has used those words,
Starting point is 00:30:57 that word to describe me. except for this what happened like literally culturally and it was really it's been very very very difficult to get past that and to get through that and to get and to go to be on the other side of that and I feel like that's one thing that I've really really um that's one big it almost identified you in the in the wrong way like it's not who you are but like you yet you've been identity your label identified as this when it's like you're fighting to be like that's not who I am. Right. Yeah, that's, it's, and that's hard to, because it's, it's such a, like, it's almost like you're being gaslit by other people, like, always, by other people, by, by strangers,
Starting point is 00:31:43 and everybody, but it's like, but no, that's not. And then you feel like you have to defend, but it's like, yeah, that's, that's an exhausting wheel. Yeah. And it was never like, oh, like, you know, you're so nice to say, to give me a compliment. Most people do never do that. they're always like, oh, that's from this, or she was like that, and she was so mean to this person and she's mean. And I'm like, okay. Right. Well, and at this, you know, this stage. And I think a lot of guys, sorry to interrupt you, but I think a lot of guys, because they think that's what it is, so they also kind of try to gaslight me too. And in the past like month and a half. I used to get gaslit and like internalize it and be like, oh my God. Like that's how
Starting point is 00:32:33 they see me. That's how they feel about me. That's how people, that's when I walk outside the street. That's what people think about me. And now I'm just like, no, that's not how people think about me. And it doesn't matter if they think about me like that anyway. Right. I just, I don't know. I feel different. I feel like I have a new shield. Or like I said, like the metamorphosis. Yeah, it's, it's recognizing. And I think that's, for anyone listening, there's always someone that said something about you that isn't true. They've spoken untruth into you because of something either they heard or they might have witnessed from a, you know, maybe you were having a bad day or something. I don't know. But at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:33:10 you know who you are, you know your own truth and you know what's in your four walls. And that's always kind of whenever I get a little shaken by something that has been said, you know, Allen's always like the four walls. Like that's that we know who is in the four walls. And that's really in all the people that really matter too. It's only like your family knows you are loved. And does anything else matter outside the four walls? No.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Right. You know, it doesn't. My dad used to call it your like inner coconut. Don't let people into the coconut. Like what, you know, who your people, that you're close, close people are. You're very close friends, your family. Yeah. People that are your friends who are become your family.
Starting point is 00:33:48 and I totally agree with that. And I just feel that, you know, it's funny. I just said, I actually said it was a metamorphosis and I feel like I'm a butterfly. I love that. I'm a butterfly. You're the butterfly. Okay, so speaking of butterfly and fluttering into DMs,
Starting point is 00:34:04 do you believe in the DMs? Fluttering into DMs? Do you believe in that route? Listen, I have blindly DM'd when I was single. And I've had some good connections, you know, some, some good, you know, friend connections from, from them, from there too. They obviously weren't love connections, but I know, I mean, my husband, he loved connected me, you know, with DMing me. But I think some women might be like, no, I want to be approached. But in this day and age, and you have status and being able to go on to Instagram, you know, is there, I don't want to say a celebrity, but is there someone that you want to reach out to in DMs, and would you do it? And if not, can I do it for you? Wing woman. Jay's like, give me your phone. I was like, I'll just, because this is what, so my girl, Jesse
Starting point is 00:35:03 Decker, when I was single, she's like, who do you want me to DM? And I was like, Jesse, like, nobody. She's like, no, no, okay, let me think about this. Okay, this guy. And she would just straight up DM dudes. Yeah. And like, I'm like, you are so, like, she was like the best wing woman. I just really think we need to find the person You don't have to say his name But I am going to challenge you to DM someone And take that bold step Because I think it's a good thing to do
Starting point is 00:35:29 I have to think about like who that would be And it's not all right now I'm like I mean I'm thinking like Kevin Costner So my That's what I was thinking of He likes horses I like horses He looks good in a cowboy hat
Starting point is 00:35:46 I look good in a cowboy hat We have so much in common. You do. I'm in Kastner. Oh, wait, he's on Instagram. Oh, my God. You are hilarious. You are so funny.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Here she goes. Wait, can we DM him? DM him right now from your phone. I want you to do it right now. And then I want, we need to say proof of this. Okay. And we'll put it on socials. My God, he's going to be like, hello?
Starting point is 00:36:16 Okay. It's just to be like, okay, be like, your ears must be ringing. Okay. Like, it's something like cute. Like I think are your ears ringing, winky-faced, um, talking about my love for horses and your name popped up. Let me know if you're ever in New York.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Talking of my love. Gosh, this is so good. Because you got to like put thrown in interest. Okay. So everyone listening, if you want to, like, reach out of someone, throw in an interest that you know that they're, like, you guys both, like, love and share. Say, you know, thinking of something, you know, or like, you know, are your ears ringing, whatever.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Okay, your ears must be ringing. Talking my love for horses and your name came up. When are you in New York? Also put Janet Kramer in your next movie. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I'm kidding. I'm my great friend's a great actress. You'll love her. I love that. Okay, I'm, I need you to press send. You know, it's so funny, though, is that because I always say aloha. Like, we don't, you know, I don't text, but like, every time, like, I would be like, aloha, that's my way of saying hello. No, do you want to do that again.
Starting point is 00:37:31 When I was on Raya this summer, you know, I was like saying aloha. And everyone's like, they were like, do you live in Hawaii? I'm like, no. Why would I? We're going to drop the aloha. I love you. We're dropping Aloha. Please do not Aloha, Kevin Costner.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Kevin Costner. Wait, did you send it? I did not say aloha, by the way. Thank you. Did you send it? Yes. Let me see. I don't believe you.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I have any, like, Ah! I sent it. Oh, it's so good. There it is. Well, that's something we get to recap on. Yeah. Let's see what you do.
Starting point is 00:38:13 says. Let's see. Does it get read? It's probably like his publicist. You know what? But like at the end of the day, well, great. Then his publicist and be like, wow, you know, then Kevin, here you go. But I think it's something, keep thinking of other people. DM, DM away. Because you know, what's the worst can happen? They don't read it. Or they don't respond. Or they do. And guess what? You've got a fun little, you know, you know, drink, date coming your way. Or, you know, whoever, all to the listeners, too, whoever is listening, if you have an idea of someone that you think would be really good for me. before I was like no athletes, no actors, like I had all these rules. And now I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:38:48 as the butterfly, I'm like, no, no, no. I am open to meet all these different kinds of people. So if you guys think of anyone, too, that you think would be good for me, please let me know. And I will let my fingers do the walking. And her wings do the flopping. Hello. Okay, 2025. Are we wanting to be in a relationship or we wanting to just continue this single? No, no, no, no. In a serious relationship. and ready to go. Like I am... Love.
Starting point is 00:39:16 That's the intention for 2025. I'm here for it. Be in... Like, not like, not like, like, oh, let's date. Like in a very,
Starting point is 00:39:26 very serious relationship that's moving forward towards getting, being married. Yep. And you know what? And this is the thing for everyone listening to,
Starting point is 00:39:33 project what you want. Don't say you're never going to find or this that and the other. Project it. Say what you want and go out and find it. You know,
Starting point is 00:39:42 what was interesting too is just being in with everybody. Like, I never thought of L.A. as a place that I would live. I always thought of L.A. as a place that I went to work and then came back. And, you know, I'm at lunch with my friends the other day. And I'm like, you know what? I love L.A. Like, it's a, it's very me. It's like, it's very high and very low. Like, people are just having a really good time and they're walking around in T-shirts and then they go to their, you know, they do their work. And it's just, it's, it, I feel very, very good and healthy in L.A. Whereas it's, you know, it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:13 know, I work in Miami and Palm Beach and I've been going there all my life. I just, when I'm there, I just don't feel good when I'm there. Yeah. Well, I mean, listen to yourself, you know, and like if that's the places, that's not my friend, too. She's divorced. She's like, I'm not going there anymore because it's not filling, filling my soul, like my soul cup, you know, I'm going to, she actually loves Miami. But again, we're, you know, we live here in Nashville. So it's kind of, it's fun. I mean, I love working in Miami. I just have never, I've just, it's just never. I've just, it's just never. been a place where I'm just like this is maybe it's because there's no horses and there's you know I really I really do I love I love the beach and I love horses I love that I love those are the two things I really makes me whole yes we love that so much and you know Kelly we are going to be you know just on this journey with you we're excited for 2025 you've put out the intentions and you know stay tuned for Yellowstone part two having so much fun. I was telling my kids over the weekend. It's just so nice to be in an environment
Starting point is 00:41:18 where, like, I feel safe. Like, I feel safe to communicate. I feel safe to tell you, like, how I'm, why I'm so deeply, like, I'm scarred. I have total PTSD from my experiences, like, on housewives. Complete and utter, very, very serious PTSD. 100%. Well, you're doing all the work and, and I just feel so good now. yeah um just being able to communicate and to be able to to just be myself and you know I'm super flawed and you know what that's okay I don't have to be like amen sister you know and someone's gonna love all the parts like I have so many flaws and I have such a weird past and not weird past but a hard past and like he loves every piece of it you know so by the way on the mass singer you were amazing I was like oh my gosh I know her thank you
Starting point is 00:42:12 So sweet. Thank you. All right. I love you, Kelly. All right. Happy 2025. Well, Kelly is the best and it was so great catching up with her. And it's really, truly amazing to see how far she's come since that first episode. We taped a few months ago, just coming off the heels of that broken engagement and just, you know, I just feel like she's just happier and stronger. And it's just really been great to watch her along this journey. Listen, this podcast is all about you guys, the listeners who have also had. difficult times with finding love. And we want to hear from you and give you advice. So call us or email us. Follow us on socials. All the information will be in the show notes. Make sure to rate and review the podcast. I do part two. An iHeartRadio podcast where falling in love is the main objective. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a
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