The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Sorority Sisters - My Next 30 Years

Episode Date: May 16, 2026

Is this sisterhood thing BS? We've reunited "sisters" 30 years later to find out if the bonds are real. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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to Dirty Rush. I am your host, Jen Fessler, and today we are mixing things up. So instead of chatting with recent grads, I've got a group of women who are a little further down the road from their sorority days. We are bringing in Judy and Janet. Hi, ladies. Hi. Thank you so much for joining us. Here, Jennifer. Hi. Thank you. So, well, first, guys, tell me where you went to school and what sorority you were in. Judy. University of Southern California and we were in Delta Gamma. Got it. Okay, great. And I know you grabbed. I graduated different years. Janet, when did you graduate? I graduated in 1988.

Okay, and Judy? 91. Okay, I graduated right in the middle, 1990. Not that it matters. And Janet, did you move straight to Vegas after graduation? No, actually, I wanted to be in fashion, so I moved straight to New York City, and I was there probably for 15 years until I married my husband, and we moved back to West L.A. Got it.

And then we moved to Vegas for my husband's job, like, 10 years later. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So, listen, guys, we're going to talk about what it's like, those friendships that, you know, we form in sororities. And, you know, if those friendships stay with you for life, I think in my case, a lot of them

did. I want to know about you guys, though. Tell me about the women in DG. Were they just college friends or do you have a lot of sisters that you're still in touch with and that are your closest friends. Janet, tell me a little. Well, a kind of funny thing, I think in our generation is, firstly, I loved my experience as a DG. I lived in the house the whole time. It was the best. But then we didn't have social media like now. Right. So it was very hard to keep in touch when I moved to New York. I don't know about you, Judy, but there was only,

you know, that was very odd at the time because most people stayed in California and we couldn't really stay in touch with our sorority sisters because like no one was there. Maybe two people would moved to D.C. or something, so you kind of see people going in and out. But I did an event for USC a couple years ago at our house here in Las Vegas, and I was thinking about the most significant things that have happened in my life. And the funny thing is that so many of them have been brought about by my sorority sister. So like, for instance, my husband, who I'm madly in love with, she, I was living in New York, her husband worked at Morgan Stanley with my husband. And when I was coming to, you know,

coming home to visit my family, she fixed us up and we fell in love and I moved back. And then, you know, there's just been so many instances like that. Our, you know, best friends would move years later and we'd come to New York and then we'd all become best friends again. And I think the bonds are just so, so special. And yeah, so it's just been great. You bring up an interesting point because I graduated UT, New York, Texas in 1990. D. So, right, we didn't even have cell phones, right? No, no. It was such, it was such a different time.

And it was, if you wanted to stay in touch, you were making a, it used to be called Youngens, a long distance phone call. Right. Or you wrote something called a letter. And, but I remember that feeling, because I moved straight from Texas to New York City. I remember feeling that, that loss, you know, just sort of loss of these sisters, because they're really, none of my, none of my, AE5 sisters moved to New York. So I was the ones from my pledge class. What about you, Judy? Yeah, I had a little kind of a mixed experience. When I first graduated, I moved to D.C. My boyfriend at the time, he was in med school and I moved. I was a polysci major of communications. So I wanted to move D.C. It just kind of worked out. So I moved into a row house with about four other

sorority sisters. So I kind of continued. But they were older than me. So That went to Roe House. So in Washington, D.C., their houses are in rows in Georgetown. I guess I just call it. So the houses are like almost share walls, so you're really close with your neighbors. And there's lots of them. They're beautiful. You know, the other ecology?

It's not. No, I had a senator across the street, a lobbyist here. But they were one person in these homes. There was six of us. Six girls. I shared a room with another girl in a bathroom because you were used to. I literally was just like, oh, that's no big deal. I don't think I could do it today.

So I lived with my sorty sisters for a few years, all different schools. Some of them were DGs at different schools and were different ages. One was at the Pentagon, but Taylor was at the Pentagon. I know Taylor. Yeah, she was my roommate. She had the biggest room. She had the whole top floor, obviously. She was the level.

But it still kind of worked like a sorority house. And then once I got married and moved to New Orleans, that's when I really felt the shift and didn't have as much contact with my girlfriends once I got married and was living not in California. And I remember being devastated that I could not afford to fly to my friend Amy's. I'm going to cry still. She asked me to be in her wedding. I know I'm so sad. Oh, so sad.

But you get married, you have no money. You know, you spend all your money for wedding. I know, but the fact that you would actually be brought to tears by that is so you. Yeah, I still think about it. I was like so sad I couldn't be there. Oh, it was to be in your bed. your best girlfriend's wedding. It only happens once, hopefully.

No, but it does. It speaks also those bonds, those, you know, sisterly bonds. But, okay, go on. I'm sorry. No, that was pretty much it. So that's been my experience. And then I have stayed, I think, probably a little more than my girlfriends have, because they all still live in California together.

So I think I make a little more effort to try to bring us together. Because I'm sort of in Vegas. There's not as many girls that left California. Right. Am I sorty? So I sort of started a text group and then I just recently joined the 51 Pledge Sisters text group that was started. And that's been really fun.

We all kind of share our little businesses or little, you know, celebrations of our kids. So that's been nice. And oddly, I just found out Facebook Messenger. I had like 100 messages I never saw about these reunions that I missed. I was always like seeing photos, like, oh, shoot, I wish I knew about that. Well, apparently there was messages. Oh. Social media it is.

Sometimes they, like, think it's junk mail, but it wasn't. Right. Yeah. So I would say, you know, it's been hard. It is really hard to keep in touch. And there are some girls that when we pledged with, we never saw them again, right, Janet? Oh, for sure. Yeah, you really have to make an effort.

But it is cute, Judy. Like, when you say that, because I lost touch with a lot, and you probably saw a couple of my, the sorority sisters that we have a good holiday party. Yes, yes, I did. And, but further on, I. Further on that, I hadn't really kept in touch with everyone. You're right with the reunions. I never went to any because we travel, like all of, you know, travel and we couldn't do them. And so this year we're all turning 60.

Now, Gini's younger than I am. So we're all turning 60. So I said to my couple of girlfriends who I've, you know, still very close with them. I said, come down to our house in Newport. Let's celebrate our 60th. And so my girlfriend put it out to the whole group text because we're all turning 60 this year. And now like 40 people. Yeah.

Like almost our whole pledge class is coming down. And they all got hotel rooms. I want to come. I know you're saying you don't want to be 60, you guys. So that's the downer of it. Right around the corner. But it's cute. But it was cute.

You know, see everyone so excited to see each other. You have a whole agenda. Do you have like, you know, just the schedule and like things. I mean, are there,

I don't know. Oh, totally. Like I'm doing one big dinner at my house one night. And then, you know, Tammy Tucker, remember her,

Judy? Yeah, totally. Yeah. I think I ran into it. like some ski place deer valley or something yeah so it's gonna it's gonna be a blast

yeah it'll be but I'm just you know it's fun how everyone wants to see each other and you know it's like your time is past yeah it's referring to me seeing her friends she she can go last minute I don't know if you I'm sure you're familiar with Paige of Paige denim am I I am I that

yeah hanging over yeah too Paige was my big sister oh wow she was a DG and I asked her to be on here today and she had plans, but she definitely would love to be on. Did she have a discount code she gave you for us? You know, she did do a discount code for Nathan Allison Hospice as a luncheon that she agreed to be. She kind of saved us as the fashion house.

I do not mean it for us. Oh, no, no, no, of course not. No, but she was so sweet. She did a discount code for the DGs that day. Oh, very nice. Right, right. And she did a pop-up. It was really cool to kind of bring her back.

Yeah. Yeah, so still keep us. You guys feel like there's something different in terms of because, you know, now that we are, we're all around 60, Janet, but like, 50 begins versus your sorority reunions. Like, I'm very close with, I have three best friends from high school. And so we see each other. I went to high school in Houston, Texas. So we see each other once a year. Oh, my friends.

My friend has this amazing house on the Chesapeake. Fun. Yeah. It's really, really fun in Maryland. So, yeah, but there's four of us. You know, there's a lot of sorority sisters. And it's a different type of closeness. Yes.

We had so much fun in 85, in college. High school was such a different time. It was a time of kind of struggles. I mean, college, too, you're figuring out who you are. Yes. Right? But just different parts of, in terms of growing up. Are your high school friends?

You feel like you have those same types of relationships, different, same. Yeah, I still have a few high school friends, probably not, I don't keep in touch with them. I try, but they, none really stayed in California. A lot of them left. Yeah. It makes it a little harder. Sure. I do try to keep in touch with them for sure, the ones over there, but probably not as much as I think I'm a little more closer, but it's hard to say. It's different. Yeah. It's a different type of closest. Yeah, they knew me when I was a lot younger. I have a few friends from high school that I went to college with and were my sorority that I keep in touch with. So that's cool. That really goes deep, right? Yeah. What about you doing it? That's, I, to be honest,

that's I, I have, you know, Judy knows one of our girlfriends who lives in New York City, Donia bomber. But other than that, and she was my little sister when she pledged also. And that, I think, is my only high school friend. I would have loved. You guys went to high school together? You and Donna? Yeah, we've known each other since eighth grade. Yeah. Where did you guys go to high school? I didn't know that. Lindale. I don't know. Glamorous Glendale High School.

That is amazing. But yeah, it's so much fun. But I think, to be, you know, honest back then, right, you weren't, it was hard to keep in touch. Because everyone was a different university, you know, schools that they didn't go to your school. And, you know, and you moved, and I moved to New York. So. You have to make that plan every year, right down. And then also in the sorty day, you think we're so close, especially the girls that, like, I lived always in my, the sorority.

I loved it. And I just feel like, you're. you're so close because you're living together. Right. All the funny stories, people with their boyfriends coming home. I mean, it's just like, you know, it's a wild free time. And you just really know the real them. Yeah.

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Listen to SportsSlice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Any of your sorority friendships outlasted other relationships? I don't know. I mean, listen, marriage is in this day and age come and go or maybe even family. Have you found that some of the sorority? relationships have lasted longer than other ones, other relationships in your life? How about you, Gidi?

For sure, yeah. I mean, I've had some friends that I've sort of fallen out of touch with that I was very close when I was younger that I thought I wouldn't fall out of touch with, but I continue to stay in touch with. And I want to say it might just be that time period in my life that I've stayed in touch with. I mean, I do think the sorority does add that extra bond. But I also have friends that I've made in college at USC that weren't necessarily in my sorority that I definitely kept in touch with.

But there is something about a sorority that does cause your brain, I think. It's just that sort of time in your life. Your brain is still developing. Right. You can't help but have this sort of neat relationship during that time of your life. And also with families of my sorty sisters, I'm really close to get the parents. I mean, I'm just the person. It's really like, like I'll never forget when I went to my first DG event when I pledged.

And it was like a dad, daughter football game. And my dad showed up. And my girlfriend Allison was there with her dad, Dawn, who recently just passed away, sadly. And they were so happy to see each other because they were real estate buddies. And my friend Elson and I had no idea. And he was just, it was just, and my dad went to USC. So he was like super excited. And that was just like made my experience.

and that's already so much better. I knew other people. And like every time we get together, it was just like this big family, especially for me coming from, my parents were born in the 20s. So my dad was like one of the first people. I was the youngest of six.

So he was one of the first people to go to USC play football. For sure. Yeah, all that kind of stuff. So it was pretty cool that he makes somebody out his age, you know. Yeah, that's very cool. So yeah, it was a pretty cool story. Janet, do you feel like friendships that you make now? are different.

Every friendship is different, obviously. But do you think it's harder to connect now? Or, you know, are the forms, the form that friendship takes now, definitely, of course, it's going to be different the form it took when you were in, when you were 18, 19, or whatever. But do you think it was easier to get closer to be, have a sisterly bond than it is now? Oh, 100%. Right. Because, A, you don't have the other influence of, you know, when you are married,

and have a family, they come from. When you're making a girlfriend, you know, it's not, you don't have the time. But I think also just the fun, you know, it's very, such a carefree time. And you just told, like, funny things happen, right? I mean, you're going to all these fun exchanges and some, like, funny thing happens. And you get fixed at, you know, you do, Judy, wouldn't, you know, you'd get fixed up where they, you wouldn't even know the person you're going with you. Oh, totally.

That you got right to go to parties. Like, you're going. And it's just all those hilarious things happen all the time. time. And so then you have all that, you know, fun mutual, those fun mutual memories that you don't it's just a different time later in your life. And then living together, of course, you know, is hysterical. You're all sharing the bathroom. Back then, we only had one phone in the hall. So it's like someone would be on with their boyfriend. You'd be like lined up, you know, I mean, everyone's wanting. Oh, my God. You'd have the hall. Yeah, the housestone. I think I got a phone in

our room, but it was like a voicemail. Well, you had a phone. Right. And a boyfriend would leave. my boyfriend, my husband now, he would leave like the longest voicemails. And it was just hilarious. Because everybody in the room, we'd all listen to him. He's screening. Give me his love. And we're like, so cute. I love that.

I do. I think, and I think when time passes too, you really are excited to see your friends and hear about their life or maybe someone that you worked with. Yeah, I went on to work with a lot of my stories with Bruce. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. When I moved to D.C. to L.A. some fertile, Mariana Defterios, all of them were working at Team One Everstate.

How fun. Yeah, so Sue helped me get an interview, and it was a blast. Because we worked together. So a lot of us in the sorority, we would apply for jobs on the campus, and often it was, you know, working events before the football games for alumni or whatever they needed us to do. I forgot what we were called. We were called some kind of ambassarorship. So it started then. We started working together.

me and my story so it was natural that we would continue working together and get paid which yeah it's been better yeah so we kind of already knew how each other worked and trusted each other because we had already sort of worked in an environment together and so without even knowing it was just an easy like when you needed a little hookup you trusted that that person you're yeah it's going to do a good job because you're on whatever we called it the board or what do we call our officer positions on the board i think it was the board yeah the board okay I think, yeah. I'm sure, I don't know, Jennifer, if you know, like, you, to get a good room in the sorority, you had to earn points, right?

Do you know this? The way, it did a lottery, but go on. Oh, you're so lucky. We had to work for it. We had to. Yeah, you know, so many points if you were like the president or vice president or the Pledge trainer, rest chairman. Yeah.

Okay. Wow. So you'd want to kind of negotiate who your roommate was to get a good room. room, you want to be with someone that also is involved. Otherwise, that person is going to pull you down. I did okay the first year, but the next year, I don't know. I don't think I held an officer position. So I kind of pulled my group down. So we got put on the third level for Allison and we got a roommate who we loved, but it was like kind of print. And it wasn't very cool because it's like very, you know, like it was caught up there. Oh yeah. I was up there. That can happen too.

I think it's so interesting because I feel like if you get a request from a sorority sister, Like, let's say my, you know, my kid, Jennifer, my kid is trying to break into, for me, I don't know, podcasting or television, whatever it is. But there's something about that, like that request, if it's coming from one of your. Oh, for sure. Right? Because it definitely holds weight. It does. I always am hesitant to even ask friends like that.

Like, I always am hesitant to ask Paige anything because I know in her heart she wants to do it and I don't want her to push herself. You know how it's like I just worry about even doing those ads. because I know that's how people feel. Right, right, right, right. Okay, so just tell me this. Do you feel like you can, I know what the answer is going to be, but I'm going to ask it anyway, especially Janet when you have this big reunion coming up. But even when, because it is hard to keep in touch that you have a lot of sisters,

not at every school, but, you know, the ones that I'm thinking about, keep in constant contact. But do you feel like you can just pick up immediately where you left off when you see your sorority sisters? I think it will be like that. I'm excited. I think it's going to be a blast. Yeah. And it's fun to hear about their life experience and, you know, like what's going on in their kids. And, you know, yeah, it's going to be so great. I think it'll be just like we left off. I want to come. I think it sounds like the most. I know. I'm totally inviting myself. Damn it. You guys are welcome. Are you kidding? Everyone is going to love it. I'm just a smaller skate by.

Yes. It would be so great. Give me maybe from each one of you some advice you have for graduating sorority sisters on staying in touch after college. Judy. You know, I would definitely continue just what I'm doing and set up a tech stream. I think better. So many people aren't on social media or on different platforms or like your messages can go to spam. So I would just say, because I mean, honestly, my biggest advice is literally the day of graduation, just count on you're never going to see some of these people again.

I know that sounds like kind of sad, but I think if you have that in your mindset, you're going to make a little bit more of an effort. Yeah. It's great advice. It is good advice. I mean, I can remember the party I went to graduation. It was late. And I remember I had to leave to catch a flight. You know how you could stay all all night because we were going somewhere and I remember thinking, I didn't say by to this person. And I do because I'm kind of this person. I'm always thinking about weird stuff like death. And well, you know, only have this much time to live. So I was like, this may be the last time I see that person. And sure enough it was. Like there are people that I they're just not on social media.

Right. They are literally disappeared from this planet. But I know they're alive and living and I wonder what happened. It's just like there's no way to get a hold of some of these people. Like they've chosen probably to not want to be in contact. But isn't it a cool feeling like when you all of a sudden, like you're on social media and you have one of the, I mean, we use Facebook. I don't know, you know, and a lot of the, I'm talking about going back away and all of a sudden people you may know. And all of a sudden like this old sorority sister pops up and you're like, oh my God.

And then like, you know. Yeah, that they've just sort of been hiding. And they're like, hi, I'm here. I've been watching. You all this time. Yeah. So I would say, think of that. Like, that might be the last time you see that person.

So really, unless you make an effort, you may never see them again. So what about you, Janet? Any advice? Well, I think Judy's advice is absolutely right on. And I would say, like, because with my work, when I lived in New York City, I would be in Europe so often with, because I was in the fashion business, right? So I'd be in Milan or this and that. And it was what you were saying, Judy.

I miss so many of my sorority sisters' weddings because my career was like, you know, first. And look, sometimes you can't go, but I probably could have left a day early and made it to the wedding. But I thought, oh, there'll be another one. You know, you're kind of inundated with all of that throughout a time. Everyone's getting married. You think it's just going to always keep happening. And, you know, all these things are so special. And if you can do it and you can really make the effort and you can swing it somehow, you should try to because you see everyone there and you keep the connection.

and there's such special memories. And it's, it doesn't, it's not like that all the time, you know, because we all are in different phases of our life. And so, yeah, it's just great advice to seize the day, right? And appreciate it. Totally. Ladies, thank you so much for joining us. I hope your reunion is so much fun.

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