The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Standing Up for Love with Katie Thurston

Episode Date: October 9, 2023

Katie Thurston has had a BUSY summer looking for love on the sand! She’s back with Ben and Ashley to drop some hints about her time on Bachelor in Paradise AND what it was like filming F Boy Island!... Katie holds nothing back when she takes us through the moment she saw Blake Moynes on the beach, in their first reunion since ending their engagement! And, find out WHICH was a better match for Katie’s personality… Paradise or F Boy!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh, my God, perfect.
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Starting point is 00:02:09 This is the Ben and Ashley I, Almost Famous Podcasts with IHartRadio. Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today we have a special guest. Her name is Katie Thurston. Hey, Katie. Hello, everybody. Katie. Katie, so pumped to have you here, by the way. Just very excited. I am so interested in your life right now. Like, from afar, follow you on social media with the show coming up. Just very intrigued by you. Thank you. I appreciate it. And the best of ways. Like, I just have a lot of questions. So I'll let Ashley dig in first. Then I'm going to jump in. sounds good well obviously you're going to be on f boy island any day now it's october 16th monday october 16th is when you are going to be one of the three women trying to tell the difference between a nice guy
Starting point is 00:03:05 and an f boy it's the first season that it's going to be on the c w i want to know what your reaction was when you first met alon gale who officiated my wedding and was a father of the bachelor franchise for so long Well, I'd never got to work with him. You know, by the time I had my experience, well, on Bachelor, I should say. Oh, yes, yes, yes, okay. Yeah. But I'd heard so many great things about him. And so when the opportunity came for the show and his name, obviously, being like the mastermind behind it, I already had a feeling like it was going to be a really good match.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Meeting him, though, everything everyone has ever said about him is true. He's amazing. He's a genius. He tells you ideas and you're just like, this is why you are doing what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. So he was great. I love him. We're very close today. We've been in constant contact, even after the show. And I mean, he's going to be in my life forever for sure. I, when I saw that you were going on F Boy Island, and obviously, Alon was around when I was on the show, I immediately, my first thought was like, those two are a good duo. Like, you two could work really well together. And I kind of wanted to go in, and we don't have to, you know, obviously your time on The Bachelorette.
Starting point is 00:04:20 is not something we're here to talk about. We're here to talk about F. Boy Island. But I think if you think back on your time as a Bachelorette, and you would have had on Alon there, who, let's be honest, right? Alon does share a lot of opinions. He has a lot of thoughts. He is much more, I would say, vocal about what he thinks you should be doing and what he thinks would be really good.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Sometimes that rubs people the wrong way. Sometimes you're like, no, that's a crazy thought. I would never do that myself. Do you think you would have appreciated having him? him there or do you think it would have annoyed you in that season of life? Oh, it would have been a better experience and, you know, and what I went through without him being there and what now I know he's like if he had been there.
Starting point is 00:05:02 You know, he definitely has that human element of like, here's my thoughts. Now tell me what your thoughts are about that. It was just like an open dialogue ongoing on how to make great TV, find love. You know, like there was just so much transparency. And that's something I really respect from him versus, you know, You know, other experiences are a little like, everyone's trying to like make you a little bit of a puppet. It's like, no, no, just tell me what you want. And like, let's work together and make something great happen.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah, give me the clarity. I think that's one of the big things that I felt was at least had the clarity. And I felt like I had the position to say, no, man, you're crazy. I'm not doing that. I don't think that's right at all. And at least the conversation existed. And maybe that was part of his strategy because over time you just get worn down. And you're like, yeah, I'll do whatever you say.
Starting point is 00:05:47 But, you know, before. we dive into F-Boy Island, you do have a career right now in improv. You have been doing stand-up. I have done that once in my life. I think it was the hardest thing I've ever done. I never want to do it again because I was sweating all over in places I didn't know I could sweat. I was sick to my stomach. The green room behind it, it was an open mic night was chaotic because you had people getting sick from being nervous. You had people super chilled out being like, this is just great and then you had me just in the corner like shaking like I don't want to do it. Katie, what made you step into that and kind of how's it going? Give us a quick update.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yeah. Well, first of all, Jared should definitely give it a shot because you never know until you do it. You have either a Ben who's like, I tried it never again or myself when I did my first open mic, same vibe. I was like, I don't know. And then I did it. I watched the tape back. I was like, hell yeah, I got this. Did you have a set written out? Yeah. So when I very, We did my very first open mic. It's three minutes, which is so obtainable, right? And so I kept chickening out. And then finally, I was just telling you, I'm like, I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. Kind of hold myself accountable by, like, announcing it. You know, like, once you put it out in the world, you look like a little chicken when you, like, back out. So I'm like, well, everyone knows I'm going to do it. So might as well go all in. So, yeah, I practiced a little bit of a three minute set, but you really don't know
Starting point is 00:07:11 what it's like until you're on stage. And so when I was on stage, I felt like I blinked and it was over. But then when I watched the video, back that my friend recorded. I was like, oh, I think I got this. And so it's been a year now of doing stand-up both with either open mics or big shows with big names and it's just been so much fun. That's awesome. Can you give us a joke right now? You know, typically men will say that when they find out your comic. They're like, oh, tell me something funny. And then I just look at them and I say, men. And then I just walk away. So that usually, you know, shut a lot of guys up when
Starting point is 00:07:45 they do that. I think that's the thing with stand-up. Ash, you know, when I was preparing for it and I wanted to give it a shot, was like there is such a different kind of mind space that I had to get into to go up on that stage and to share what I was wanting to share and to see if it would work and react. I mean, I had jokes or segments that got no laughs. I had some that got a ton of laughs. And I think actually I found it more funny once I was up there.
Starting point is 00:08:15 at the ones that I wasn't getting laughed at because it was so awkward and the awkwardness makes people laugh and that was fine for me. I was good with it. Okay, so Katie, my first thought on F Boy Island. Obviously, we've mentioned that we're supporters of Alon, tuned in to the first season. What happens if one of the three of you just want an F boy? Like, is that an option or are you all agreeing to look for the nice guy? Yeah, like you're not there to really find love, are you? I mean, with this show, it's very different because there's, there's multiple levels to it. There's, there's $100,000 on the line. There's also the dating element.
Starting point is 00:08:52 So it's kind of like a win-win, like hopefully maybe I win some money, maybe I find love, maybe a boyfriend. You know, we all kind of had different goals. The perk of looking for a nice guy is it's an automatic split of the $100,000 with them. So in some degree, you hope you fall for a nice guy. But the thing is, we don't know who that is yet. So once we've already developed feelings and a relationship, relationship with someone towards the end is the reveal of who is an F boy who's a nice guy. And sometimes you're just stuck with maybe all F boys.
Starting point is 00:09:23 And like you have to just hope that maybe they're what we call reformed and we'll choose to walk away with you and the money at the end. Or are they just the ultimate F boy and they take $100,000 and leave you heartbroken and broke? For those who haven't seen the show, do these guys know what category they're in? or is this a surprise to them? So every guy comes in with their own definition of what they think is a nice guy or an F boy.
Starting point is 00:09:51 So you're not like assigned a category. People have their different reasons for self-labeling themselves as what they are. You know, I will hint that there was one nice guy who we will all agree was not so much of a nice guy. So just because they label themselves something doesn't mean like that's really who they are. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?
Starting point is 00:10:36 That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Hi, my name is Enya Emanzor. And I'm Drew Phillip. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes.
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Starting point is 00:12:34 Everyone say hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin, so like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay. I'm not going to have you call out any of your bachelor exes directly. But we know that you've dated Matt James, Blake, Moynes, and then your boyfriend that you met on your season, John, that you ended up dating in real life, but you no longer with. Of the three of those guys, is there an F boy amongst them? I will say this. I do think I tend to date nice guys. And I would say all. three of those are nice guys. And then in my experience on this show, I thought I was going to be
Starting point is 00:14:11 really good at picking out who the nice guys are, because that's the type that I date. I was very, very wrong. Interesting. Was that a surprise to yourself? Were you, I mean, kind of, what's your emotions as you walk through this process? Were you frustrated with yourself, surprised? I mean, overall, I was happy with my experience and learning about myself and getting to watch these men kind of navigate their experience as well. But there was at least one situation that left me very frustrated because it was very much like a blind side. I'll say that. Something to tune into. Now, Katie, you obviously have been in the spotlight. You were the bachelor at you've gone on to stand on stages uh you're correct me if i'm wrong uh tell me that if i'm
Starting point is 00:15:03 far off your experience on reality television uh up to let's say six months ago was maybe not a positive one like it wasn't one that you would say yes this was the best season of my life you know there's good things that came from it but you know you you weren't exactly like seeking to get back on to the bachelor's to be the bachelor's a second time what is am i right or wrong Oh, yeah. I mean, I had a lot of emotional recovery from my reality TV experiences. And I didn't have it, you know, in the front of my mind to ever really go on reality TV again. So when I got the call, actually for Bachelor in Paradise and for F. Boy Island this summer, it was just kind of like, well, I guess I'm not done with reality TV. Yeah. So, like, give us a perspective to you personally then. Like, what made you say? to this stuff? So for F-Boy Island, I'd never seen the show.
Starting point is 00:15:59 So I had binge to watch season two before agreeing to do it. And then seeing what it was about, Nikki Glazer, who's a comic, she's the host, Alon, he's the executive producer. There was just all these positives behind the scenes and what the show was about that felt like maybe this was going to be a better match for me and my personality than what like traditional bachelorette is, you know, it's very, bachelor's very serious, which is great and works for some people. think that's not a good match for me you know so my experience in doing f yisland is more silly and
Starting point is 00:16:30 there's humor and there's comedians both on this on the cast and behind the scenes like it's just a big fun joke that we're all in on it was just it was just a much better experience so i'm really glad i said yes now you're with two other girls during this whole process it never seems to get catty between the girls though but what if you're like fighting over the same guy because you are genuinely interested like does it give you bachelor in paradise vibes so we all talked about that we didn't really know what to expect but truly with the exception of one person it all kind of organically worked itself out naturally um the one guy that they were kind of both interested in they talked about real quickly like behind the scenes it's not even a moment for the show and we're just like yeah
Starting point is 00:17:15 go for it you know i got a good group of men here so there really for us wasn't that opportunity to really fight over anybody or trade. And it just kind of worked out organically. How does that make it different than when they did two bachelorette, you think? Is there a difference between them? You know, I don't know how that worked for the two bachelorets. I can only speak from my own bachelor's.
Starting point is 00:17:40 And what I will say is on F Boy Island, there's a lot of freedom to just exist as you are. You know, like, like, I didn't get interrupted a lot. There wasn't a lot of producer input. Like, they're there, but like as nothing. Like, there's just, they're not interrupting anything, you know. And so I think that really allowed for organic connections to happen, whereas, as you guys know, with, you know, The Bachelor,
Starting point is 00:18:04 there is a little bit more of, like, guidance for certain things to happen or conversations or people to be talked to, you know? So I think just by allowing us to exist freely, um, allowed everything just work out the way it's, supposed to what uh what happens katy and i apologize i don't know i know you go to bachelor in paradise you just mentioned it um we've seen the teasers it's not a it's not a spoiler i don't know what capacity like i don't know if it's in a hannah brown capacity and you're you're just going down to you know shakes things up for a couple hours and you're like yeah i'm just actually here to chill or if you're
Starting point is 00:18:42 actually going as a contestant is that has that been released yet that hasn't been talked about um so Yeah, you will have to kind of tune in. I will say Paradise was filmed first. So the timing of what ends up happening on Paradise during filming, after filming, and then going on to F Boy, which sometimes there are F girls, I'll say that. In short, you just got to tune into both shows to kind of see what ends up happening. It's a big piece. And so my curiosity is here.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Let's just say, you know, we don't. let's just say you go down to paradise today you find love what happens then with your commitment to go to an f boy island i mean just because there's f boys doesn't mean there can't be f girls so oh my goodness this is big wow that's really big for some reason seeing you walk down those steps in paradise i never even contemplating contemplated you being a contestant which you actually totally can be it just like was ruled out in my head that you would ever go down as a contestant. Okay, wow, this is good and this is juicy.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Now, you haven't talked to Blake for two years, he says, as you walk down the stairs. You've got to tease us with how your first interaction was. Okay, I was told when I was going to see everybody, everyone was going to be very excited and get up and hug me. And so I went in with this like mentality of like, I'm about to be so welcome. When I walked down, obviously the first person I look for is Blake.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And he's looking at me like he saw a ghost. And it feels like five minutes of nobody saying anything, no one's getting up. Like, I feel so uncomfortable. Like, I will do open mic over and over again before I ever have to experience entering the beach that way. Yeah, I feel you. Were you nervous, though? I mean, like, were you nervous to see Blake again? You know, so much time had passed.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I was indifferent, you know, I, Blake's is very mature and despite how things happen, you know, in the aftermath, overall, like we were, we were two happy people in love at one point. And so I was very optimistic that, you know, regardless of his situation status on Paradise, that the conversation was going to be a positive one and much needed, you know, as we both navigate whatever happens next in our lives. Yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
Starting point is 00:22:00 To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.
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Starting point is 00:23:37 my dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin, so like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
Starting point is 00:24:17 A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I have to just say, as a bachelor detective here, the bachelor contract would not have allowed you to go down there and date and then do F. Boy Island. So you are not a contestant. So this is, you are not a contestant. I mean, you're entitled to your thoughts. You have to know, as a former bachelorette, you do have a little bit more power and what your practice says and how you navigate that. So I'm a very smart business woman. I read my contracts. I negotiate my contracts. I negotiate my contracts. And all I'm going to say is, obviously I made it work out for me the way I needed to that best was going to benefit my life, my love life, and my bank account. I'm not convention out of contestant. Me neither now. That response was epic. I think it's very fair. Here's the wild part about all this. Katie, let's just say you were a contestant. You've spent the last,
Starting point is 00:25:32 I mean, you spent all summer on television. Like, you were filming all summer. Like, this is, you got to feel all sorts of weird, right? Like, that's a whole different reality than the real world and sitting in your house with a foster dog. Yes. Yeah, it was funny because the dust felt like it was finally settling in my life. I was like, all right, this is the next chapter of what I'm going to do. And then these phone calls happened. I go, well, I guess my summer is in front of the camera again. So was that exciting? Like, were you looking forward to that? Or is this like like, does it feel like intimidating and nerve-wracking? You know, I did my research with both opportunities like I really didn't I wasn't quick to be like yes put me in front of that camera you
Starting point is 00:26:12 know I really made sure it made sense for me um for my mental health for everything that I worked so hard to find you know in this point of my life and so this year of reality has just for both shows has just been so much better than my past experiences and so I'm really glad to just leave on a positive note with you know both different like franchises um my mental health coming off of it and just feeling just overall very good about my experiences so if you are dating in paradise who was on your list that you wanted to see down there that was the hard part because i haven't actually watched that was a hard part so she had to do it look you can do all you want actually but no but i really i haven't kept up with the show and so when i showed up there was a lot of
Starting point is 00:27:01 faces i i had no idea who they were i don't know where Are they a villain? Are they a good guy? Are they just a night one guy? I had no idea who anybody was, really. Who was the hottest when you got down there? I'll be so honest. There was this comfort in seeing Blake again. It definitely stirred up some like things I didn't know we're still there. And he's kind of, he's just looking good. Like we're all, everybody's talking about like Blake 2.0 is, is doing all right for himself. It's that breakup, glow up that everybody goes through and he gets it. So I was like, nice to see you. Yeah. So, okay, we had Wells on a few weeks ago. And as we close out here with you, obviously F Boy Island is coming up.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Everybody should tune in. There is just a lot of intrigue. And it's a very fun show to watch. I don't think the name fully represents the show. I think there's a lot of really good, like, moments too behind, well, that we get to watch on television as well. We get to watch on television as well. But we had Wells on a few weeks ago, and he had mentioned that there's a unique dynamic when a lead, a former league, comes onto the beach. And that, you know, you have multiple different ways of going about it. One, some of the leads go down and they only care about everybody else because they don't feel like they need to care about themselves or really pursue relationships themselves. Some leads come down and they kind of have this ego, give or take,
Starting point is 00:28:29 you know, a little bit to say, hey, you know, I was a lead. and I'm coming back to the Paradise, and, you know, y'all, you're going to want me because, yeah, at one point, I was it. What, how would you best describe kind of your feelings leading up to the beach? I mean, I definitely did not want to target on my back. So I wanted to make sure I was humble in my experience. Also, let's not forget two guys quit my season. So I don't really have that confidence as the Bachelorette.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I'm just Katie coming to the beach. And if you like me great, if you don't, well, that's your loss. But no, I definitely want to stay humble and just open and not have this, like, entitlement when I was there. Is that the same mentality you took on F Boy Island? Even more so on F Boy Island because it's a shared lead spot with two other women. And I was very nervous that they would feel some kind of way. Fun fact, they had no idea who I was. So we didn't even have to deal with that.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And so we really got to navigate our experience, you know, as three equal women dating these guys and kind of every night we kind of go through the list and like, you know, mix her wrong. cards like this has to be an F boy this has to be a nice guy and that was kind of our like bonding moment every night after filming when you go down to paradise i don't know that there's anybody from your season besides Blake but when you look back on your season you did date john after the fact is there anybody else that you were like oh like i could revisit and date that person i'm thinking because michael alio is single your take on all that i will say there definitely was a time where Michael was on my mind, but more like fresh in my experiences and reflecting and watching back and just all of that stuff. With all the time that has passed, I do feel like I don't know him
Starting point is 00:30:14 as who he is today. A lot of people go on the show and come out a little different. A lot of people go on the show and it's a heightened version of themselves, but then you get to kind of see them on social media and you're like, oh, that's a little different, you know? So there definitely was a time where Michael was on my mind, but I can say pretty confidently that that would never be experienced again. Well, Katie, we got to let you go, but we do want to remind everybody to tune in to F. Boy Island. Katie is going to be one of the three women walking through the experience. What do you call themselves as the kind of leads of F. Boy Island?
Starting point is 00:30:49 Is there a name for it? You know, some of the articles have been just calling us The Bachelor Eds, but yeah, I just say the leading women of F. Boy Island. Leading women of F. Boy Island. And also, we've got to tune in to Katie's story on the beach in paradise to see how this all kind of like filters out. I don't know, Katie. I'm watching and I'm listening to you and I'm thinking this has to just get messy. I don't know if it does, but it feels like it had a lot of risk to get messy. And I want to see if it happens. I am known for being messy. So tune in to find out. That's right. This is good TV. So thank you, Katie. We'll see you on our TV.
Starting point is 00:31:26 is multiple times a week soon. Yes, yes. Maybe multiple times a week. I appreciate it. Thanks, hi. Bye. Well, that's been Katie Thurston,
Starting point is 00:31:34 former Bachelorette, also a potential contestant on Bachelor in Paradise and one of the leading women on F Boy Island. Katie's got a lot going on this summer. If you want, you're going to be watching a lot of her.
Starting point is 00:31:47 You can tune in to F Boy Island on the CW as we spoke about. And I don't know. Katie should be showing up to the beach soon. I guess it would happen within the next couple weeks. I'm excited about that. That is so unexpected.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I totally just assumed she wasn't coming because she's on F Boy Island. She worked it all out. Well, until next time, I've been Ben. I've been Ashley. Talk to you soon.
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