The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Stefanie Parker From “She’s All Bach” Isn’t Scared!

Episode Date: August 20, 2026

Stefanie Parker, host of the “She’s All Bach” podcast is opening up to Bob Guiney about her feelings on receiving a letter from ABC legal, what she thinks the franchise needs to be relevant again, and her take on the next lead Bachelor rumors! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you get your podcasts. This is the almost famous podcast with Iheart Radio. It's the almost famous OG podcast with your OG Bob Guinea here. Hi everybody. Today I am checking in with a fellow podcast host, somebody who has built an empire for herself. I think she's done a really excellent job of it and definitely has a lot of very key and monumental interviews in her past and I'm sure in her future as well. We are joined today by Stephanie Parker of She's All Batch. So let's bring her in. Hey. How are you? Well, I'm better now. How are you doing? I'm doing so good. It's so nice to meet you, big fan. I know. Officially, right? It's crazy that we've never actually talked before. I know. It's a long time coming. I'm excited.

I am too. Well, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for joining us. I appreciate it. I was just saying in your intro that, you know, you have built an empire for yourself. I mean, you kind of did it. It did it all on your own, too, which I think is pretty awesome. You got to feel pretty proud of that. Thank you so much. Yeah, I mean, I used to have a podcast partner that I worked with as well. We built the podcast. But yeah, she's all batch before the podcast, too. It's been a long time. Yeah, for sure.

I'm proud of it, excited. Well, obviously, it's around The Bachelor, which, you know, has been, and I'm sure around many other things as well, but it's been a long time since a fresh season of The Bachelor has been on. So I know you've also had a little bit of drama in your life with, you know, a letter that you read live on the air one day. Tell me a little bit about that. You know what?

I too had my run-ins back in the day. So I get it. So ever since I put out that episode, I realized that. I just joined the club of a lot of other people who have been in the exact same situation. I think for me, the major difference is I never signed anything. I don't, I've never seen the contract. I don't know what it even says. So for me to get one, it just felt like they were trying.

I have to be careful about what I say because I know they listen. They're like, yeah. You know they do. Hey, guys, if you're listening. To me, when I first read it, I quickly skimmed it, and I'm like, let me get to the bottom. Like, get to the, where's the punchline? What's the conclusion here? And I thought it was going to be like, you are being sued for XM.

I didn't know what was going to say. But literally, just to wrap up, summarizing is contestants have contracts forever. And, yeah, make sure you tread lightly, kind of, like something like that. Yeah, that perpetuity word comes up a lot in those old contracts, as I recall. But you know what, Bob? I've been doing the podcast specifically for almost five years now. Where have they been? And I know they know about me because there was a long period of time where people

weren't allowed to come on my show until they were out of contract. So like where were you for the first four five years? Yeah. You know, I wonder if it's a little bit of the Taylor Frankie Paul effect. You know, like all of a sudden it's let's squeeze a little tight. and keep a little tighter control of the ship here because, you know, otherwise, I mean, the wheels legit came off this past year. So, I mean, it's, it's been, you know, kind of a, uh, just a, like the Titanic, basically, you know, and it's sort of like, come on, we all love the show. I mean, you know,

I got sued many years ago. I still love the show. You, you know, you got sued? Uh, you know, we don't have to get too into the details, but yeah, it was, it was an ugly time, uh, you know, many, many years ago now, 20, over 20 years ago. I think I might have been, you know, might have the first one on the chopping block for that stuff. But I won the right not to have to be sued. How about that? Wait, I heard you say that. I'm like, you won the right to not be sued.

OK, whatever that means. The interviewer in me wants to pry for more. And this is what ABC doesn't like about me, is that I try to get stuff out of people. But I'm just inquisitive. I'm curious. Well, can you tell me, was it during your, when you were on the show or was it after?

No, no, it was after my season wrapped, but very shortly thereafter, actually. Oh, so you were still like the person. I was still the person, yeah. But it was more about, you know, basically because of, I had continued doing what I had done before, which was why they knew who I was and put me on the show anyway, and they wanted to be able to control how I did that.

That's basically what it was. And it was, you know, it was basically just found that they couldn't, they didn't, they didn't, the way that it was, how do I phrase this properly, the way that it was determined was that they did not have the authority to do that at that time. So given the fact that I had done that, it would be like if you're, you know, you're a podcaster, right? So now you go on the show and you go all the way through it and now you go back to podcasting. They're like, hold on, you can't do that.

And they'd be like, no, that's kind of what I do. That's why you had me on the show in the first place. I was a musician, which was why they had me on the show. I went back to being a musician and they're like, you can't promote your music. I'm like, what? How's that? So it was kind of a thing. So, yeah, it's a long story.

years ago, nobody cares. What I'm more concerned about is, do you have a moment that you think was the trigger for you getting that letter? Like, if you're thinking back of all your interviews that you've done, was there like one moment where you're like, oh my God, I should not have asked that question? Oh, it's never not asked the question. Always ask the question. They could say no. Right. It's totally, I always tell my guests, like, you're in the driver's seat. I, the last thing I want to do is get anyone in trouble or make someone uncomfortable. Like I want people to enjoy coming on my show and tell a friend. I don't want people to be like, she made me so uncomfortable asking me these questions.

So, okay, a trigger for them, why I think it came out of nowhere after almost five years. I had a few interviews in a row of people who definitely don't speak highly of the franchise. people that either got a bad edit. Well, I mean, it's out there, so I could just say. Like Sam McKinney, he was the villain on Jen season. He was silenced for a long period of time, and he wanted to speak. Zoe McGrady wanted to speak. They all, like, have things.

They all feel a certain way about how they were either portrayed on the show or not, like seeing their fellow cast members go off to come on almost famous or to come on Bachelor Happy Hour or any of the other. podcasts and they're not allowed to. Right. They're like itching to share their side of the story. And by the time they get to me, they're like, look, I have so much to say. And I think that pisses them off.

But I don't get why ABC doesn't embrace it. Like, internet drama keeps the show going. I just don't understand it. Yeah. I wonder, though, you know, a lot of times it's probably, and I mean, you would know better who your letter was from. But what I've found is a lot of times it's actually not ABC. It's actually the production company behind the show, right?

And so I often think of that because I think, you know, it does create that kind of feeling where you're like, man, the real housewives, they're just like, go crazy ladies, you know, build that drama. And it's like those shows have become such staples. And, you know, a lot of it I think has to do. And I'm loving to hear your opinion on this too. But a lot of it has to do, I'm sure, with the way they. release the show and distribute the show, right? So it's, you know, when they're on the Bravo, the Bravo Celebrity, the Bravo Celebrity, or whatever they call it, when they're doing all that stuff, you know, it's basically like, let's go, you know, push, push, push, and you're everywhere,

and we're not going to control what you say and have fun. And I think that does create celebrities, and that's probably part of it. I think maybe the powers that be at this point aren't wanting the people that come on the show to turn into celebrities and they reluctantly accept the fact that these people become household names to a certain degree. I mean, what are your thoughts on that? Well, that's, that's interesting because that topic came up after I shared the legal letter. People started coming to me and saying, I mean, I just had Corinne Olympios on my show and she said, this topic came up about how the franchise doesn't really love how people then become famous after the show. And what I said in response to that was, well, it doesn't matter what they go off to do.

still they're tied to the franchise. Like you think of Ashley I, she's gone on to do amazing things and she is incredible, but she's from The Bachelor and those are her roots. And there's nothing wrong with that. So I don't get why The Bachelor can't just say like, yeah, go off and be the biggest star in the world. It looks good on us. It's like when a teacher has a star student, like it looks good on the teacher. I don't get it. I know. I agree with you. I think it's really interesting. It's like you almost have to, if you can't beat them, join them type of thing. And I think they're still in the let's beat them process, right? And it's like, man, you're kind of hanging on to something that's getting really slippery.

And you know, you want better people to put their names in the ring. And you want people who are, you know, going to, I mean, this show is still relevant, although I think a lot of people are talking lately about how it's lost so much relevance. And I'm curious about your thoughts on that. And then what you think we could do to write that ship, like to get to, to, to get it to a point where maybe it is, you know, destination viewing for people again. Oh gosh.

I want them to, I think they should hire me. I feel like I can give them a lot of pointers. I think is it relevant to answer your first question? No. I don't think it's relevant today. Does that mean they can't turn it around? I think they could turn it around. I think they had like a blueprint of what the show was in 2002

and they have not updated it. in how many years. I mean, I just covered on my last episode my thoughts on Let's Marry Harry. And I didn't think that was the most groundbreaking television either, but it was, there was a lot of similarities to The Bachelor. And I said they took the Bachelor blueprint, but made it modern and made it better.

And I just feel there's too many rules with The Bachelor. For example, Harry sleeps in the house with all the women. There's no, it's not like if you don't get a date with Harry, you can only see him for 10 minutes at a cocktail party. Like he's waking up in his pajamas coming down for breakfast with the girls and they're taking showers with him. Like there's so much more room for drama. If they chill out a little bit on the rules.

Right. And I don't know. Just remember that it's 2026 and people do have platforms regardless of what you do. They're going to get their story out there, whether you silence them and forbid them to go on podcast because then they'll just make a. TikTok about it. Like this. Right.

Right. Loosened the rules. Yeah. Loos. Right. Yeah. We cover that show with Deanna Pappas. And I often, when I would listen to it, I kept wondering, like, I wonder if it's the Disney

synergy, right? So like, because it's still got that ABC Disney stamp on it, that they want to keep it as wholesome as they can, right? So that's why the Corinne thing was such a catastrophe. And that's why all this kind of other stuff seems like so out of the, you know, out of the ethos of what should be allowed on the bachelor when you know then you got like love island just exploding all over the ratings and it's like you know it's the complete opposite of how you know the franchises run I don't know I'd love to see it remain relevant I'd love to see it still have success you know it's

interesting when you kind of look back on it because of course I was in the very early years you know I was on Trista season and then right after that I was the bachelor and it was such a different time you know like there was there was no improv right there was not and I don't mean that from the standpoint of like, you know, I mean, they didn't tell me what to say ever, first and foremost. But when people always ask me, like, it was it, was it scripted? I'm like, no, it was not. Now, the stuff that we did, I had nothing to do with that, right? It wasn't like, you know, we're on a horseback ride going down the beach. I didn't plan that, but I've pretended like it. Well, yeah. But I always think it's funny because now I feel like there's so much more

flexibility to the show, like, oh, you can come back. Like, you have so many episodes where people come back who were sent home early. And that couldn't have happened during my season if your life depended on it. That happened on like Paradise once. When are they bringing people back? Well, you know, like they have like the golden rose. Like, oh, I forgot. I wish I would have not sent this person home and they bring her back or whatever it might be. Like they'd run stuff like that. Oh, I don't know. I have no idea of specifics. You'd probably know better than I do. I do. I have two off the top of my head. Well, Ashley I in Paradise. She gets sent home because like she did. No one picked her. And I know that producers are probably like, we can't have Ashley, I go home. We need her back. So she,

she asks the group for another chance and they allow her obviously because they need her back. And then Chris Souls, why do I have this in my memory at all times? You're amazing. This is such a, such a sponge. I love it. It really is so pathetic. And then Chris, it was night one, he sent some girl home. And then she comes back in and asks for another chance and he gives it to her only to send her home the next time, like second row ceremony. How crazy was that? Yeah.

Those are two I can think of. I definitely, yeah, I think there was another, maybe it was before. When did you start carving the show? Like what, what season was your first season? Well, that's the thing. I didn't watch your season, sorry. I was a little. You were probably still in diapers, Stephanie.

I was a little young back then. Like, probably Brad Walmack on either after second. And then how many years there after? Everything after. And then how many years there after did you start your podcast after or won't. Oh, I'll. So, I mean, I started She's All Batch on social media in 2018, and then I started the podcast in 2021. So recent. Yeah. Kind of. Get Bell, Pure Fiber Internet with Crave, Netflix, and Disney Plus from $94 a month. Price guaranteed for two years on internet with a two-year term and auto pay credit. Visit bell.com for details and to check availability. Bell, connection is everything. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months.

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so many episodes at once, whereas The Bachelor's still in real time, or not real time, but obviously it's, you know, an episode a week type of thing, two hour long episode. I mean, the length and how much they milk it, that definitely gets frustrating to the viewer. I do think the whole streaming thing could help, like, be modern and release the whole season or at least release like what Love is Blind does. They release, what, six episodes, then another three, then the reunion. Like, you could still make them wait a little bit, but give us something to binge. People want to binge.

I don't think the episodes need to be a movie and a half. I think that's insane, especially when, if you're going to make it a three-hour finale or reunion or whatever it is, fill it with juicy stuff. Don't make 20 minutes of let's rewatch everything. We already saw it. Like they are just, they have these staples in their finale's and their reunions that they do every single time. And I mean, thank God for DVR to be able to fast forward.

Because I don't need to, especially me when I would watch so I could recap. I'm like, I don't need to see what we've seen all season. I've recorded it already. Like it's a waste of time. Like, I think Bravo does a really great job with their reunions. They film for like all day long and then they cut out, they leave in like the juiciest parts and they cut out all the fluff. I feel like Bachelor lives for fluff.

I was going to say it's almost like the opposite, right? They almost like keep the fluff and throw out the stuff that might be offensive to someone. And that's probably where the problem was. What if they aired the show closer to when it was actually filmed? You know, like when I was The Bachelor, for example, we wrapped filming in July. And then my final episode didn't even air until December 1st, like Thanksgiving weekend or something like that. So it was a long while, you know. And so part of me sometimes wonders about that too.

Like, you know, because so much now, like back then, nothing was spilling because there was no social media. Now so much can come out. saw so-and-so, you know, it's kind of almost like, you know, creates spoiler opportunities for the finale and it makes it not as, you know, top secret as I'm sure they wanted it to be by design. But allow for spoilers. It gets people talking about the show. I mean, I don't love you reality, Steve, but I don't like spoilers. I like to be surprised. Yeah. But people do, obviously. So don't be such a stickler about spoilers. It gets people talking about the show when people think they see the couple and they have a photo in the distance and they're trying to dissect

which final girl it is, like that's only making interest around your show. It's like they try to stop people talking about their show. I don't get it. Yeah. No, I'm heated. I know. It is kind of weird. What if they got rid of the grand finale of making the show end with a proposal? I sometimes wonder if that's why, you know, I mean, because obviously the knock on the show has always been, you know, oh, well, so many couples don't make it, right? And I sometimes think, you know, man, I think it'd be so interesting if making it wasn't necessarily a proposal. Like, you know what I mean?

Like, for example, like I came off of my season. I gave a promise ring, right? And yes, it did not eventually work out. We were together for five months, though. And it's so funny because I'll literally go out and people be like, oh, you broke up with Estella like a week after the show aired. I'm like, that was still five months after, you know, we were dating for five months. So it's interesting to me when that kind of stuff comes up.

And I sometimes wonder if the show would be more successful without that pressure at the end. Well, question for you, would you have given her a promise ring if everything you knew about her at that point and it was off the show? Like if you knew everything you knew about her at that point, but it wasn't a show. Yeah. And you had to go by the promise ring yourself. Right. Would you have promised her anything? No.

I would have kept dating her. And that's the thing that, you know, I would have for sure. kept dating her. But no, there was so much pressure around that. And I remember being terrified, you know, of the moment, like just thinking, oh my God, I, you know, I'm not ready to propose, but I don't want to not date her and I want to see where this can go. And I was kind of on the front end of that move. And a lot of people thought it was a cop out. But in fact, it was, it was my option, right? Like, I can give her this amazing ring. Oh, my gosh. You know, and it was a Harry Winston in ring at the time. It was pretty spectacular. And I'm like, I can give her one of these and we can

date. This is amazing. You know, granted, it didn't work. But, you know, at the end of the day, it was still a pretty awesome ending to the show, I thought, you know, I mean, in retrospect. So, yeah. Who knows? I don't know. It'll be interesting. Who do you think should be the next bachelor? I mean, we've heard some rumors that's going to be, what, spring of 2027. I mean, I'm wondering, do you have anybody in mind? Well, you know about the, um, the rumors that. that it's Taylor's runner-up. I was going to ask you about that. What do you think?

Look, I'm sure Taylor's runner-up is a lovely man. But this is another person we don't know. How are, with their, given their history, how are they going to get everyone to be invested in a person they don't know if we don't, we haven't seen anything about him? I don't, I, it's so frustrating because I think if you're going to come back after everything that we went through this past year, you better come back with a bang. And you're going to come back with a guy we don't know.

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They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. There's stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots with. books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having.

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or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro Society on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. On the new podcast Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinero, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else.

first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too, nervous to book your first trip. I hope you listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Our town is small taters by most standards, right? But to the people who grew up here, it's everything. What happens when a quiet Tennessee town becomes the

front line in a battle over the future of America? Developers with right-wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land in the area. The first thing you see when it pops up is pioneers in Appalachia. weren't just planning houses. We need cities on a shining hill that exemplify and embody the Christian way of life. Stop right there. Is that normal?

A podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a social experiment. God need men to rule. Great. And decides to fight back. Do not use my hard work to sell your bull. They're not just opposing what's

being planned for here. Our hometown is not a test tube. They feel like there's standing in opposition to an entire administration. Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to Our Town on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you think it would be the runner up or do you think, because I've heard rumors that it might even be the winner of her season because they're not together.

If it's dumb, Mason, that's a little different. I didn't hear that. I would be good for that. I've heard a couple different angles on this whole thing. So I'd be interested to see. But yeah, you're right. Like somebody maybe who, you know, like Zach Efron's brother who was on Dancing with the stars, right? Or, you know, it could be a whole myriad of people that America knows already.

I wanted it to be Peter Weber for a long time. But now he has a girlfriend. So that's out. You were kind of on the front end of that, too, of that big announcement, which I thought was pretty interesting. I mean, with the whole, didn't you interview the lady, the producer that wrote the book and all that stuff? Yeah. Yeah, I did. Do you think that was the moment that may have triggered the whole thing? No, I swear I don't because her, like she's in good standings with ABC. And she's totally fine with ABC. And honestly, she didn't really share much. Like, I really tried. And she was not, she wanted people to go read the book. So, yeah, I don't think, I really think it was the people that had bad blood maybe with ABC and not, I don't think it was

shooley. Yeah. Well, who knows? That's good. I mean, at the end of the day, you know, it's kind of, Look, I've always been more fascinated. I mean, with the behind-the-scenes producer side of the show, that half the time, than what's going on on the screen. So I find that to be really interesting. And I personally love that you cover that stuff. So I think that's great. And love what you're doing and love the whole shooting match.

So I'm glad you're having fun with it. And you're not going to let anybody get in the way of you continuing to do what you do. Oh, well, thank you so much. Yeah, I mean, they basically were just saying, like, it wasn't a cease and desist. I was listening to the conversation that you had with my girl Courtney. Yes. So no, not in any actual legal trouble. It was just a, in my opinion, it was a scare tactic.

I think they wanted to scare me. And I literally, an hour after receiving the letter, recorded another interview. Because I'm like, well. So it didn't work. I mean, I wouldn't, what it did to me was piss me off. And now it's like, you know what? if your ship's sinking, I'll get off the ship then. I don't have to keep. I mean, like, I cover what I like because I want to be interested in what I do, but I don't have to go out of my way

to promote your show anymore. Exactly. And with all your, I mean, you have so many listeners and followers, it's like, it's a pretty good thing that you are doing that, right? Because I think people stay invested and people listen to you all the time. And for those who don't, make sure you listen to She's All Batch, I think it's an awesome podcast. Stephanie Parker, of course, is at the tip of the spear of getting things done over there. So thank you so much for joining us. And thanks for making it fun. I'm so glad I finally got to meet you and talk to you.

And I had that same, you know, I had a fun experience with Reality Steve a few years ago too because I had never gotten to talk to him. And so I got to talk to Steve. It was fun too. Where? When? I think he had me for an interview for something. I can't remember what it was.

Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. That was a fun one. I actually hung up. I'm like, God, I really liked that guy. Yeah, he's a nice guy. He is.

He is. Well, congratulations on all your success. I love it. And I think it's great what you're doing for the show and for the franchise. And I'm sure that if they don't want you, I'm sure you can find another one to boost and take care of us. So, you know, I'm sure we'll hear you doing a whole bunch of stuff in the meantime. What's your plans for now to when the next one airs? Are you still going to be digging into other shows?

Oh, yeah. I cover all, like now I, for the past couple of years, I've really branched out to just all pop culture, reality. TV, whatever really interests me. I love a lot of nostalgia. I love going back to like old reality TV shows like Jersey Shore and the stuff that I have a lot of knowledge on just like Bachelor. So I cover news in that realm. So check out, she's all batch on any social media or podcast platform. But yeah, I mean, it's never been that heavily based on the show. The show would kind of help if it was airing, but people like the drama outside the show. And that's what I don't think they understand. Right. Well, thank you so much, Stephanie. Thanks for being on the show. Thanks for doing all the things

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