The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Suckers at The Golden Wedding with Dean & Caelynn Bell and Jared Haibon

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

Ashley is hanging out at The Golden Wedding with Jared and Dean & Caelynn Bell! Things get heated when they discuss how long they should mourn before dating again after one of them passes away. Th...ese are conversations couples need to have!Plus, Ashley shares the secret to getting some bathroom privacy with a 2 year old. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.
Starting point is 00:00:55 And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth?
Starting point is 00:01:17 Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Everyone thinks they'd never join a cult. But it happens all the time to people just like you. And people just like us. I'm Lola Blanc.
Starting point is 00:01:45 And I'm Megan Elizabeth. We're the host of Trust Me, a podcast about cults, manipulation, and the psychology of belief. Each week we talk to fellow survivors, former believers, and experts to understand why people get pulled in and how they get out. Trust me.
Starting point is 00:02:00 New episodes every Wednesday on exactly right. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcasts with IHartRadio. Hey guys, welcome to another episode of the Almost Famous Podcast. Today I have the cast of suckers, the newly branded podcast, formally known as Help I Suck at Dating, and then also formally known as Help I Suck at Beauty Nulewitz, That name was really rough.
Starting point is 00:02:31 It was a very niche audience. So we've changed it to just suckers. That is my husband's podcast, along with Dean and Kaylin Bell, who sit across the table from us. I know that we're at Gary and Teresa's wedding right now, and Kaylin needs to go get her makeup done, as do I in about an hour. So I just wanted to present this one question before Kaylin gets out of here, and then we can let the men continue to debate it. Yeah. But so this wedding. sparked some conversation between Jared and I because I was like, what's the rush?
Starting point is 00:03:04 Like, why are they, why are they getting married? You know, like, why do they have to get married now? Like, they've known each other for four to five months. Like, they're not trying to have kids. Like, they don't know each other, you know? And then that evolved into, I was like, I, like, also, like, I don't even know. Like, I don't know that I would need the companionship at a certain age. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I don't know how I would be widowed at a certain age. Is there a question in this? Yes. Yes, yes, yes. And sorry, I do need to hurry up and get to that. But Jared and I had this conversation about at what age, morbid, but if one of you died, would you say that like, I want my husband to not mourn me forever, but I want him to go find someone else? And is there an age where you'd be like, no, you don't need that? I say you can mourn me for three years and then you can move on. Three years.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Be alone for three years. Yeah. No matter what the age. Yeah. I think because in watching The Golden Bachelor and the women talking about this, they're like, we're so often overlooked. It just makes me feel like you're never not going to want that companionship. Especially wants me to die alone.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I'm not joking. She never wants me to be with anybody. That is an absolute lie. We said this. We established if we established this. Wait, why are you coming at me so hot? Why are you coming at me? It's so weird.
Starting point is 00:04:31 We stout, you were the one first off. I was like, don't worry. I don't care. I don't care. But I said that at 45 and below, I would definitely want you to move on. Oh, but after the fact, no. And I guess 45 sounds really young. So if I'm 46 guys, sorry, I'm dying.
Starting point is 00:04:49 No, okay. But why does the age have anything to do with? That is my question. Because I feel baby in myself that I'm like, I have my kids, I'm not going to need. Your kids are going to be out of the house at that time. Yeah. And you're going to be even lonely.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Then you know my sister and I are just going to live together. The point of this was that my, so my grandmother passed away in 2013. My grandfather passed away in 2022. So he had nine years afterwards and they've been married for 60 years and he was still in love with her. And he was, but like he got caught making out with the neighbor who was also. He was like in his 80s. They were both in their 80s.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Like both had their significant. That's awesome. I know. I thought it was the cute. his thing and then Ashley was like... No, it is cute when it's Grampy. You said it was gross. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:05:33 You are having fucking... Okay, anyway, anyway, but you said that you never, like, because you were... No, I think that's funny. I don't think that I would need... I don't think I would have that desire personally. Yeah. I don't know what I'm saying anymore. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:05:49 I think, of course, like, if I, I mean, I hope that we both live long lives, but if I were to die, I would want you, of course, to be sad, but I also don't want you to not at some point move on with your life. Yeah, I know. But I'm just like wondering if it's like something that I would even care about, like at a certain point. Yeah, you said specifically, because I was like, I would want you to find somebody else and you're like, I wouldn't want that.
Starting point is 00:06:15 I want you to think about me forever. No, I said I want you to think about me forever. Well, you said you never want me to be with someone else, which I totally get. I literally just said that, like, at 45 or younger, I would definitely want you to find somebody else because that you have so much like, Jared! Wait, I've got a question. Let's flip this off. I don't, I'm not saying, like, obviously, like, I don't, like, I think, like, yeah, like,
Starting point is 00:06:39 you probably should, but I also, like, I get emotional thinking about it. So, so can me just get one number? If your significant other dies, or I'm sorry, if you die, how long until your significant other you would give their blessing to date again as a ghost? I would probably. Just a number. I don't want to hear anything. Just a number. Just a number. Nothing else. I'd say a year. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:02 A fucking year? Wait, a year before dating someone else? For you. That's for you. For me? Yeah, for you. But I think, I think, I'd say two to three. For Jared. For Jared?
Starting point is 00:07:16 Okay, now let me, yeah, that's, like, if you died, so I would also say two to three. Okay, now let me ask you this question, because this I think is interesting as well, because not all heartbreak ends with death. If you guys got divorced, God forbid, how long would you... That doesn't make... It changes the whole scenario. Of course, but like you would... It absolutely does.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Yeah. How long after a divorce? And again, I don't think this is ever going to happen, but like, you know, it happens. How long would you be like not comfortable with, but like not side eyeing him being in a relationship after your divorce? Probably a year. I don't think it would ever... Oh, so a similar amount of time.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I don't think it would ever. See, that makes it different for me because then it would just, I'm assuming. assuming that if we ever did get divorced, which hopefully we won't, that it would not end well. Because I can't imagine there would ever be a time where we were just falling, where we were so out of love, out of love, that we ended up getting divorced and it was amicable. You mean, so it would all be very. I think if we ended up getting divorced, it would be bad. Yeah, of course. So then what are you saying?
Starting point is 00:08:16 That I think like it would just never, you would never not be a little side eye. It would always be side. And the reason I asked that question, because if I were to die, I would be, I would want Kaelan to be in a relationship the next day if she felt comfortable with that. If you died, you, I would want her to be happy in a relationship as soon as she possibly felt ready for it. This probably is all about me because I don't let, I hated dating. I never liked anyone.
Starting point is 00:08:41 So I think that like I would never really seek it out. I think that's probably where it comes down to. But if it came into my lap, then I would probably be. Which I would. It would. either. I mean, unless it was like 20 years. That's probably what it is with Cairns got to leave.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Thank you so much for having me. Thank you so much for being here. Yes. Make sure you guys listen to suckers. I think that like, I think it's the seeking out thing that actually would like, would be like the more hurtful thing if I died. Like you're getting excited to date again, I think. I don't think I would get excited. No, there'd be.
Starting point is 00:09:17 It'd be the opposite of excitement. It'd be dread. But you like out of necessity, probably have to do it. Honestly, like the only happiness I would get would be like, I would come home and be like, oh, it's so quiet. I'm home by myself. No, you would love to be like home by yourself like a little bit. I think everybody does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I can tell that sometimes when I take Dawson. Oh my God. I love it. Yeah. It's weird because even with Dawson, like he's two, right? But like when he's home, you are home with someone. Oh, yeah. And like when you're, when he leaves and Jared takes him somewhere, I'm like, oh my gosh, this is what it feels to be home alone again.
Starting point is 00:09:51 My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's form. a professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
Starting point is 00:10:33 So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this. Attention passengers. The pilot is having an... emergency and we need someone, anyone to land this plane. Think you could do it? It turns out
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Starting point is 00:12:06 you open your free iHeart radio app search emergency intercom and listen now what would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth. Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program
Starting point is 00:12:52 and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Can I ask maybe a personal question?
Starting point is 00:13:19 What happens if you're home alone with the kid and you really got to go to the bathroom? Number two, you're going to be in there for 30 minutes. So I'm a woman. I don't do 30 minutes. Doors open. You've done that before? Yeah, where it's just like I go. So I usually like will put the TV on quickly and because it's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:35 as a guy here, like time is escaping right now. It's coming whether I want it to or not. But then I'll just like, so then I'll put the TV on and he'll be with his toys and then I'll just go in the hallway bathroom and leave the door. open and then he'll sometimes waddle in and then it's like give a courtesy flush uh yeah i just make sure that i'm like nope stay away bro like you don't want to yeah nothing happening okay that's good to know yeah it's usually the tv it's like the tv yeah but usually i'm pretty fast because i'm a girls are and i don't know you're missing out you're missing out you're missing out on a whole
Starting point is 00:14:07 side of life that makes things so much better yeah because there are times like there is no my body will not allow me i can't we're talking about this right now because i feel bad we've taken the poop talk from suckers to almost famous now quickly though as a guy dude i couldn't like my body it's not like i sit i go i'm done i'm like it's like it's like i go and then i'm like oh i think there's more and then it's just like and then i start to feel bad so i'm like i should probably hurry up start wiping i'm like wait no i'm not done that's what i mean like i'm not done there's like times where like yeah it's like it's a yeah i can sort of on i have moments where i understand where you're coming from but like okay now we're getting the sign that we should
Starting point is 00:14:47 probably change the subject but i do want to leave the ultimate conversation that we started out with by saying i'm not a bitch i want jerry to be happy if i died and i would love and i i want you you know and whatever makes you happy yeah yeah we don't think she's gonna start crying no i would i would probably start crying but it's great so wonderful why do you have to be so like matter fact about it why you don't you cry when you talk about it's such a hypothetical it's such a hypothetical and like i can't even take it seriously right for me personally it's like i can take it i take it so seriously i don't even want to think about it because it is so sad and such sad thing to have happened like why would i even try to like imagine it because i don't want to
Starting point is 00:15:25 imagine something so bad you know what i mean yeah that's when we say like year two i mean obviously we're half joking because it's like oh it's just a number yeah i could see that like so right i need ben to talk about this with raven and adam because they were talking about this this is what sparked a whole bunch of conversations what did they say she said i never want to get married again. Oh, I would never want to get married again. Oh. There's a difference between being with someone and getting married to them. I don't think I'd ever want to get married again. Oh, that's sweet, babe. Yeah. That's so nice. Okay, so she said, I don't want to get married again, no matter like, no matter whether you died tomorrow, like when I was 33. Yeah. And then
Starting point is 00:15:59 she said, but I know you must get married again. She's like, you will, you would, you will, Adam. Yeah. And then he was like, and she said, and I'd want you to because I'd want at this age the boys to have like a mother figure in the house. Which obviously. The problem becomes if the other person, because I feel like Dean would probably agree with this like if Kailen died or if you died
Starting point is 00:16:22 man, such a morbid talk. But that it would they would be kind of like a rebound. You know, I don't think I'd ever find like this great love again. Aw, babe. This is what we want to hear. I would agree. But that doesn't mean that I don't want
Starting point is 00:16:38 like I wouldn't want companionship. life again. So that's kind of weird, right? Because even I would be interested in talk about this with the women from the Golden Bachelor. About like, now you're finding love again. Do you need marriage again? For sure. I'm Gary's wife died.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Not even your motive, but like, are you okay with the idea that like Gary might have loved his wife who passed away more than you? I think that that's totally fine. That doesn't mean that he's not love with you. But like, it's just a different kind of love. That's actually a really interesting question. I wonder how they both answer that. I would say that this time in their relationship, being that they have only known each other for five months.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Like, you better say that you love the ex more. I know, right? How could you possibly say otherwise? And that's why it's so interesting that they're getting married so quickly. Because it's like, I'm wondering, I would love to ask their view on marriage. I should finish the ice chair. Sorry, I know. I took a sip and then I had a thought and I started talking into the mic.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Anyway, I'm curious about their thoughts on marriage. Yeah. Like for me, I, I wouldn't need that again either. You're right. Like, you can date, but like, why are they rushing into the marriage is what I'm interested in? Let's ask you this question real quick. Ashley, you probably have the best insight on this.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Do you think if it wasn't for having been the Golden Bachelor and ABC producing it? Do you think they would be getting married? Not that it's a publicity stunt, because I don't think it is. But do you think that the pressure from the network is maybe encouraging them to do it? Yeah, this soon. I think they probably would be interested in getting married. Just the two of them seemed like that that was a goal of theirs. But they also, I think, are getting.
Starting point is 00:18:10 paid pretty well for this and that's okay to say out loud and like that isn't we don't know that we don't know literally speaking out of our ass and also we have to say that just because i think people think that we have informed information about that which we don't what's so cool about jerry i'm so sorry gary and teresa is they're 70 something years old yeah and only through the short interaction i had with them yesterday it's so cool to see these people talk because they know exactly who they are they know exactly what they like and part of that plays into them getting married too it's like they're at 70 plus years old you know so much more about yourself than you do at 23 and so like to make a decision like to get married in such a
Starting point is 00:18:49 short amount of time they're making it with so much more background back in like backed up information so it's like it's almost hard for us to even conceptualize it because they have so much more understanding of it's actually such a good point and I love to wrap up this episode with that because it kind of like kind of checks me where I'm like are they rushing into it like I've had a 34 year old because I'm like yeah exactly like I have no right to say that they're literally twice my age like to a t so and it's such an impactful decision because not to sound morbid wrap this up with death but like they have you know they've lived more life than yeah they have ahead of them you know there's more yeah yeah yeah yeah they're past
Starting point is 00:19:28 the halfway point yeah so that's crazy past the three-quarter point good combos guys past the nine-tenths point at this point yeah at the end of day I think all three of us are really just like they're both you know we're rooting for sounds so bad to say like old people they're not old but you know what i mean it's like you know they're so cute because they are old why do you become cute again you know well it's like grandma and grandpa you know you're like oh i want them to be married and happy and just kind of like live in a retirement home and have a one you know go to bed at seven o'clock together and then call it a life yeah yeah anyways we're excited for the wedding tonight can't wait love you guys thank you so much for joining us till next time
Starting point is 00:20:06 i've been actually and this has been jared i've been dean and dean bye Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcasts on IHartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Everyone thinks they'd never join a cult. But it happens all the time to people just like you. And people just like us. I'm Lola Blanc and I'm Megan Elizabeth.
Starting point is 00:21:29 We're the hosts of Trust Me, a podcast about cults, manipulation, and the psychology of belief. Each week we talk to fellow survivors, former beliefs. believers and experts to understand why people get pulled in and how they get out. Trust me, new episodes every Wednesday on exactly right. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Every case that is a cold case that has DNA. Right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. On the new podcast, America's Crime Lab, every case has a story to tell.
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