The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Taglines and Pick-Up Lines

Episode Date: January 18, 2022

While we have an off week from Clayton’s season, there’s so much Bachelor Nation news to break down! We go through all the details of Cassidy’s bizarre social media rant. Ben and Ashley discuss which Bachelor had the best “tagline” (spoiler: it’s not Ben). And, Ben reveals that he’s moving on from a past trauma by making a big change in his personal life. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What up, Ash. Hey, Ben. Yeah, it's going to be a fast show today. We have Bachelor headlines. We're going to go down Memory Lane a little bit. But there was no episode. So, you know, We got not much to say.

We got a lot to say. Oh, we do? A life still keeps going. Oh, life still keeps going. It is going to be a good episode. We're good at these off days. We actually have Renee from Batch Brackett. She won this last go-round on The Bachelorette.

And so she's going to be joining us today. That was her gift and her prize along with a few other things. Yeah, it makes me feel weird too. But we're excited to meet her. It's going to be fantastic. Ashley, I do want to tell you about something I'm up to you right now. Okay. The future.

You're in Florida. Yes, I'm in Florida. I've been talking about this golf tournament for a long time. People are probably over it, but that's okay. I'm here now. It's practice round day. And I'm staying in a really nice hotel. It's called The Wave.

It's at Lake Nona. And the future is upon us. You know why? Because both restrooms in my, yes, my hotel room has two bathrooms, which is very fancy. they have heated toilet seats I had heated toilet seats in my last hotel room which thought it seemed weird until I experienced it multiple times

and I was like wait a second this is something to incorporate into a house one day it is and then the toilet seat lifts as you walk up to it did yours do that yes it did oh my goodness I mean this is this is how that other you know person of people live and I ain't hating it for a bit this feels good this is something else um all right well hey we uh are going to go through bachelor head

that's going to do through some bachelor sings we're going to bring rene on but before we do let's take a break with the almost soon as podcast Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.

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Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ashley, we're running through some of the former bachelor's titles today. Just to remind people the sayings going into the season. We're going to compare them and see who's maybe like the best in the season. worst. I've always had an issue with mine. I don't know if I've ever told you why, but I've always had an issue with mine. Um, but we'll start with Clayton's here. Clayton's is everyone loves an underdog. Do you feel like Clayton was an underdog? No. I think the word underdog is a really nice way of saying somebody who we didn't know. Yeah, somebody that you, you haven't watched

yet uh mine was and and i'm sure i've mentioned on the podcast before this really played with my head a lot my headline was the perfect bend which when you first see it would be sweet and when i first saw it the first time i was like wow like that is really crazy that they would think that like the perfect 10 if it's not obvious yeah but i took it as a compliment and then over time i realized that all it did was set myself up for failure like all it did was setting me up to be um to fall short of this and over time it really started to mess with me hey ben yours probably stuck with you more than any other catchphrase i feel like it got followed like it it was like teased throughout the season

and i just think that people refer to you by that more than any other well the the interesting thing with that too is I just took a three day intensive like counseling session and one of my weaknesses is that like I won't forgive myself unless I reach perfection and you never reach perfection so you never forgive yourself and so then to have this as your tagline well it was not exactly healthy but it's okay uh we got peters which is expect turbulence I thought that one was catchy really good really good yeah especially for that season. It was perfect for that season.

A couple more here. Nick's is fourth times the charm. I'm sure he hated that so much. I like it, though. I think it's hilarious. Okay, final one. Maybe just the hardest one of them all. Like the one that just, I mean, even the profile, the picture of it is tough.

But Colton Underwoods was, what does he have to lose? And he's dressed up in the same shirt that. a 40-year-old virgin was dressed up in. Do you think they had to get rights to that? Yeah. I don't, I'm sure they did, but my goodness, this is, that's a tough, like, all these others are kind of like, you know, smoldering and like, you look in their best. And then you have Colton, like, holding a rose staring up into the sky.

It is really funny. I remember when that came out, I was like, oh, my God, of course they did. there are a couple more you don't want to go through them I don't think we should go through them all but I think we should at least do Jesse Palmer who's a host of The Bachelor So his says

Yeah his is The Giants quarterback is making a play For 25 ladies But it's a whole new game Because one of them Is his spy Oh wait What

So when somebody asks me has the show changed. I would use this as an example. His tagline is an explanation for his season. The New York Giants quarterback is making a play for 25 ladies. But it's a whole new game because one of them is a spy. Sounds like a movie. That's like Mr. Movie phone.

Because one of them is his spy. It seems ridiculous. Well, it's really interesting to go through all of these. get a chance listeners. Google the Bachelor's cover sayings, go through them all. Some of them are funny. Some of them are really long. Some of them don't make a lot of the sense. Some of them really do. And I feel like it does kind of show how much the show has changed over the years. Because now we just have taglines. We used to have like a paragraph. Yeah. Well, can we just say Chris Solz is because I was on that season.

Traditional period. Classic. Period. All-American. Period. I like it. I'm looking at the picture. He's dressed up like it's a rose ceremony, but he's got his shoulder up against a barn. And it kind of throws me back and I have all the feelings again.

I like it. Oh, so good. Hey, Ashley, I do want to add, we were talking about Nick. I just spent the weekend with Nick and Natalie in Los Angeles. That pizza that he made for you that you guys both showed off on Instagram looked incredible. Ashley, I am telling, you know, Nick and I have had our journey and friendship, right? It went from like, hey, he came on Caitlin's season.

I didn't really know a lot about him. I just kind of stayed out of the drama of that. Just didn't really pay much attention to it. Mostly just ignored him. And then over time, we got kind of like, complying. headed it like there was envy and there was a little jealousy on both ends for both of us and now we're really good friends and like i really uh love nick uh i've gotten to know nick nick is still nick and nick will tell you that like there's moments where like he'll disappear onto his phone

for an hour and a half when you're like in the same room and as you're like well this is cool like i don't know but um natalie is incredible i know like the perfect compliment to him she brings out the best in him it was so good to spend i mean i stayed at their house their house is awesome oh you stay there i stayed there so i got to spend all day with them in evening and then nick made this pizza as you're referring to actually i'm not playing and and like it was one of the best bites of pizza i've ever had when he was cutting through it on your instagram story yeah i was like that crunch that crisp. I need you to box that up and send it to me. Yeah, next time you're with him, you have to have him make it for you. He takes it very serious. Like he, he's, he kind of explained

it what, like, it would take me a couple times to learn how to do it. Um, because Natalie wants to learn how to do it. And he would just rather do it himself because I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm not playing. He's mastered it. Like that, the, like the thin crust, the ingredients on top. He gets everything from Italy. Oh, he does. I mean, that's key. When Jared was in a pizza making stage, he didn't do so much of the crispy thin crust. It was more

of like a Napoleon, you know, Napoleon pizza. And we would get all the ingredients from Italy. It's just so critical. If you guys don't know what Italy is, it's like an Italian grocery store that's really only in major cities.

Yeah, look at it. It's great. And so yeah, I mean, it was all around in a terrific day. I'm very thankfully let me stay with them. And just we had a tremendous time together at their house. They welcomed me in with open arms. It was great. So, Hey, how was the doggie? Oh, so good. Jeff is a sweet, sweet pup, very cuddly, very loving. In fact, I think being with Jeff made me even more excited to get our dog. Yeah, is it happening? In less than two weeks. I think it's less than two weeks. I think less than two he's getting a dog guys if you didn't know

Ben hasn't had a dog for way over a decade because he was traumatized by the loss of his childhood dog that he didn't think he could do it again and now he's gonna find the love in another dog I was pressured I definitely think my wife was like hey we should get a dog and then I was like yeah that's a good idea

and then she's like hey no like we should get a dog. And yeah, I just love my pup so much growing up that I just didn't want to feel that pain again. But I am getting excited to have something around us. We got the update that the puppy should be ready in about a week or two. And I'm obviously down here in Orlando right now. But that's a big update in my life. Ashley, before we get into Bachelor headlines, I got some messages this week wondering how you're doing living at home how is it going so far it's good i'm going to bring jared in here now what's up buddy what up bra how you doing but i thought that you know ben asked how living at home was i was here for 10 days without you and then today we had to do a

lot of work together so much fun and then tomorrow we have more work and then you have more work and then you leave me again. Uh-huh. And then you go back to work at Audrey's for 13 hours a day. Uh-huh. How are we doing? We're doing well. Is that the question?

It's a very leading question, leading the witness. Um, how are we doing? We're doing well. I mean, it's more of the... Jared's going to have a mental breakdown. Yeah, of course. And he's going to have a Mariah Carey, overworked hospital stay. Is that what happened to Mariah Carey?

I don't even know. She, like, went to the hospital for being overworked. Why is that? Well, let's... But like, let's describe it for the listeners and myself, because I don't know. Like, why, Jared, are you feeling overworked? I know the success of Audrey's is something I was even telling Nick and Natalie about how incredible it is to see how much coffee you guys are buying from us.

Like, that's a gift to us, and I hope it's a gift to you. But, you know, then having Ashley there with her family, like, where are you at emotionally and mentally prepping, you know, for this next stage of life? Dude, I'm an owner of a, you know, a restaurant. I'm just riddled with anxiety. That's what we do. That's what the business is all about. Anybody who's listening who works in the restaurant industry, you know it's just like,

yeah, you just constantly feel like you're keeping your head above water so you're not drowning. This is what you craved for all the four years that we, that you weren't working in that restaurant industry. I'm still glad I'm doing it. But obviously there's a line and that line is when you're working 100 hours a week. But I digress, dude. First of all, your coffee is a huge gift. People are loving it. I love serving your coffee.

people love the story of it. They love the taste of it. They love that there's a bachelor twist in there. So it's all positive, which has been awesome. People, like we talked about in the email, people want to buy the coffee for their, for, you know, their home. So it works out really well. And it's getting better. I can feel it getting better. You know, we're getting more structured. And knock on what a lot of people have come in and said, wow, it feels like your business has been running for years, which has been extremely nice. And a lot of preparation, a lot of work, and a lot of passion has gone into that. But I think...

This was his first time away from the shop as it's been open. Yeah. So I've obviously been texting my managers. They probably hate me because I'm like, how's it going? How's it going? What are you guys doing? Our customer's happy?

Everything going well. And, uh, but hey, what are you going to do? Uh, I'm paying the bill. So I get to do whatever I want, really. But I digress. As for Ashley and I, we're doing well. Uh, I think it's just been, I feel in a little guilty because I've been away and this is the,

last couple weeks that Ashley and I are going to be a couple before we have a child in our life. And it's just weird. I don't think he realizes that we're having a child in a couple weeks. Oh, I realize it. But I've talked to a couple guys that just feel like they weren't really connected to their kid until they were born. It's like my body's not changing. You're just you know, achy all the time and can't breathe and complaining. So nothing really changes there. He doesn't even care about feeling my belly, though. I care about feeling your belly. it's just I feel the kid I almost said his name um I feel him kick and I'm like oh that's cool and then I'm done he's well it's like how long you know it's like oh that's cool it's so crazy

all right I'm gonna I'm gonna go now it is interesting Jared and and I think I'll be similar to you I have friends who have had kids and they've been like obsessed with the process of pregnancy And like, well, like, I feel I've seen them connected and like listening to the baby, right, and all this stuff. And for me, I think I'll be similar to you where it's like, this is crazy and awesome. But I really think there's going to be a moment after that baby's born. I would expect where I finally feel like, oh my gosh, I'm a dad. But right now, you know, right now, I don't think there's anything like abnormal to what you're feeling. Yeah.

I've heard it many times. It's just right now it looks like Ashley. just, you know, went ham at dinner and is really bloated, 24-7. Isn't it funny that I used to, like, when we get back from dinner and then I'd pull my shirt down and I'd be, look at the alien, I look like I'm seven months. No, you did not. I used to say I looked seven months. And now we know that that is a huge joke.

You looked eight weeks. Yeah, exactly. Now we know what seven or eight months looks like. But yeah. So, so you're going to go back to the shop. We're going to go back to Audrey's. When are you coming back to spend time with Ashley before the baby is born? Probably, you know, I'll come back the first week of February at some point and just stay down here until the little gag comes.

Yeah, but you're going to have to come back before then. And there's a little, well, no, why, the first week and making sure, like, if you're, if you're not, you know, by February 3rd or 4th, I'll be back. that's not too late. I'm not going to talk about this now. This feels like a good conversation for us to have. I'm not going to see you for, it's the 17th. It's only the 17th. So you're going to leave on the 19th and then you're not going to come back until.

No, I'll come back sooner then. I don't know, Ashley. This is what, like, this is what gets, this is what we're all scared of. We're not scared of anything. I mean, listen, you're giving birth in an incredible hospital down in Virginia. We're running a business and have a new house in Rhode Island that nobody lives in. And then nobody lives in right now, which totally find more about the, honestly, the shop than the house. I don't really care about the house.

But, you know, we're doing what we can and this is what people do. You know, we're going to make it through. This is what people do. This is what people do. This is what people have to do. Do I laugh at myself too much? No, it's good that you laugh at yourself. I just want to also say that I'm learning something new today.

I believe that Ashley is wearing a, like, belly shirt as a. while she's pregnant. I've never seen that done before. But Jared, one of the gifts of Ashley being pregnant has been how much I've learned and grown as a man preparing, like, as she's, you know, sat here every week with me. Is that a belly shirt you're wearing? It is. We just took an Instagram and we needed something that really showed off the size of the belly. I feel like your belly's always out though. Yeah, but it's because nothing really fits right now. So unless I'm wearing like a dress, it's out. Yeah, the belly's just. always out it's a look it's a good look Jared uh continued best luck at audry's we have a guest

coming on to the podcast who won the batch bracket so we've got to say goodbye to you you're the man you're crushing it keep it up you're gonna be a great dad will just keep us update on everything going on in your relationship and your life the next few weeks thanks jared for joining us thanks buddy love you see soon love you man love you too love you bye you think a break here, because we're going to come back when I have Renee from the batch bracket on. I just felt like our audience got to listen in on a very good conversation between a husband and a wife. And for that, I am appreciative. That is some authentic husband-wife chat. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. Hey, wait. How does it feel to be calling her wife? Did I ask you this already?

Yeah, it feels weird. It feels awesome. It feels very, like, very strong. It's so awesome. Like when you're on the phone and you're like with on the phone with somebody who's like business wise or like, I don't know, construction or something and you're like, oh, I have to check with my wife. I have to check with my husband. You're like, oh, like that's something you take seriously. I have to check with my girlfriend and my boyfriend. You're like, that's cutesy. This is like for real.

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Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psycho babble. Yes, yes.

Then Emergency Intercoms the podcast for you. Open your free Iheart radio app. emergency intercom and listen now. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin.

So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. On 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast season four is here. And we're locked in. That means more juicy chisement. Terrible love advice.

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Thanks are playing bat's bracket in dominating. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. I'm happy to be here. Man. Renee, you crushed it. You just destroyed the batch bracket. I did.

Yeah, my friends won't play with me anymore. Was there any week that you feel like you were stumped at what to respond with? There were some weeks towards the beginning where, you know, it was really hard with like the way they do points. It was kind of just like anyone's game towards the end. I feel like it gets a little easier once it's narrowed down. But yeah, it's always the first week is the toughest when you don't know anyone yet. and anyone could do anything. There's not too much, you know, past stuff to work on to, no past clues.

We really want to find out about you also, but it brings up something that we find very interesting. We've talked about it many times since our original winner came on. What was your strategy? Because you did do so well. How did you continue to not only pick good weeks, but like keep up the pace? and be to everybody. Yeah. So my strategy.

So I was honestly not even able to watch the full episodes. Like I was working a ton. So sometimes I could only even just watch the previews before I had to set my bracket. And so I would really just look at those. I'm in a Discord group of some people who are really awesome at sleuthing. Sometimes I would read the Bachelor subreddit And yeah Just really looking at the previews

And trying to like see, you know, who's in the shots for next week So some sleuthing, okay Yeah Did you sense Nate winning from the beginning? Um, yeah, yeah, I had a feeling. That's interesting, why? Yeah, did you? Some of us never expected Nate.

Yeah. Did you see spoilers? I try not to read like specific spoilers, more just like sleuthing, like people figuring it out from shots of, you know, from the previews and stuff. Yeah, so it was more just like when like preview footage would come out. There were like a ton of shots of Nate. I don't know. And they just had really great chemistry. I had a feeling.

Now, tell us about you. So are you a big bachelor fan? I've been watching for a while. Where are you from? Just tell us about you so people can understand who our champion is. Yeah. So I'm from Boston. I actually have not been watching for all that long.

My mom has been a big fan forever. I've probably only watched the past, I think Ari's season was the first season I watched. But I've only been doing the sleuthing since Matt's season. I was just bored during the pandemic. My friends were like, hey, we're starting a league for money. And I was like, cool, I got nothing better to do. Let's do this. And turns out I was pretty good at it.

A league for money. How much did you win amongst a friend group for this? I think I won like $300. dollars the first time. Good for you. The first time. Yeah, I played with some of my friends like two or three seasons until they realized I was just winning and they were like, you know, let's not do this for money anymore.

It doesn't be there. We have the number one bachelor bracket player in the country on this podcast right now. we didn't even really know that we knew she was good we didn't know she was great and she is great hey before we let you go um really just i mean you have uh over a hundred thousand people that will be listening to this podcast what is it uh in your life your most passionate about anything you want to share anything you're into that you want to bring attention to uh you have this stage at your moment if you want to say anything man put me on the spot huh um i mean oof i'm gonna say shout out to my boyfriend's uh music project veins

veins can we look it up on spotify or google uh yeah spotify v a i nes he's fantastic um that's what we're working on right now so good plug yeah it's great yeah well i have the audience that's but I'll shout out. Awesome. That's awesome. Thanks, Renee. Thanks for playing and thanks for rocking the game. Of course.

Thank you so much, Renee. Ashley, it's time for Bachelor headlines. Yes, listeners, it's time for Bachelor Headlines with our resident expert, Ashley and Eddie. Resident expert. Yeah, you like that. You always comment on that. That's a compliment.

You know that, right? Yes. Am I really an expert? I feel like you're an expert. I feel like you care. I do. So a couple of headlines today. I do want to preface this was say with the passing of Clint Arliss, it was shocking.

It was texted about all over. I actually called Jared soon as I saw the headline come through. There's going to be some headlines about Clint's passing today. There's still not a lot of information on it, but I want to say this. I don't know if you ever got to be around. him actually but um you know he was obviously on uh the season with with me during katelyn's time as the bachelorette i did not speak i i cannot say i spoke to clint more than um a handful of times after that season ended we had a text thread we did some fantasy

stuff but like nothing um serious was he there for a week on your season forget was he Let me do it during episode two? I think he was there for two weeks. And he obviously kind of came off that season as like a villain or he was kind of in the JJ realm where him and JJ, you know, had their thing. Funny villains. Yeah, funny villains. And then Clint went home. It wasn't the best look for Clint during the season.

But this is what all of us. And I was talking to Nick about this too. And I was with him took away from from knowing Clint. Clint was incredibly intelligent. it, insanely creative, an amazing painter. He painted a picture, if you remember that night that was iconic. It was of Chris Harrison. And he was almost intimidating because of his curiosity, his intellect, his ability to respond because

he just knew so much. And I know the people around him were impacted by him for some very similar things. he was a leader he was creative very protecting very loving and it is a loss to bachelor it's a shocking loss the bachelor nation losing clint i met clint twice one at the men tell all and then one once i'm at jj's wedding actually and yeah nothing but nice things to say about him um and like you said my producer my friend one of my best friends who's a producer said the exact same thing she was like that was like a very intriguing guy to be around he was so smart he was so creative and artistic and Jared you know he he kept in touch with him in a

similar sort of way like big group messages fantasy football and stuff like that but everybody who actually spent time with clinston to really like being around him um so so sad don't know again like how he passed but we did get some quotes this week this one's from his sister Taylor it says with great sadness it's with a great sadness to tell you that my family has lost my best friend and older brother Clint on the morning of January 11th please respect our family's privacy as we cope with this great loss Nick went on Twitter and said a very kind unique and talented person just heard of the passing of Clint, got to know him a little bit over our time on Caitlin's season, and I will always

enjoy our time and conversations. Caitlin Bristow also got on Instagram story and said, this is an Instagram story. I did not think I'd be doing tonight. Clint, who was on my season on The Bachelorette, I'm going to say, tragically, he's tragically passed, 34 years old, not sure what happened, how it happened. Even though things didn't end on the best terms for us from his time on the show to today, I have heard nothing but incredible things about that person, from his peers, his students, his coaches, his teachers, his friends and family.

Clint was very well respected in this world. She also says that she doesn't know much about how, you know, the circumstances around his passing. It's none of my business, she said. This instance story is literally just to say. to anyone who knows him who might follow me that I am so sorry it's such a huge loss and honestly

I'm just besides myself with this news we also have a little bit of an update from the police in his town it said that he was found he was found dead at a private residence Tuesday January 11th

they confirmed that it is Clinton and that there is no foul play and suspected, as of right now. But the matter is currently under investigation by the police. Our thoughts are with Clint's family. We respect their privacy, but we just wanted to give a tribute to somebody within Batchar Nation, a part of this family that has unfortunately passed away way, way too early. Well, there's no easy way to switch gears and to switch subjects, but we are going to continue with Bachelor headlines.

The next one is Bachelor's Cassidy Tim Brooks, slams Clayton, or The Bachelor, compares side piece drama to Sally Carson, this according to Us Weekly article. Okay, so this is like the silliest thing I've ever seen. She got on Instagram and spoiled her season. She talks about her own elimination. On December 31st,

before her season even started airing. This is what she says. I mean, I was saying last week that Cassidy didn't seem like that much of a villain to me. And I was like, She seems like a real villain. Cassidy, eh. Well,

now that I've seen these videos that she posted on January 31st, I'm like, oh, no, no, no, okay. So Cassidy is, she's trouble. This is what she says. I love getting ready for dates nowadays because it's literally just me in the mirror. Like, wait a second. This man should be so effing lucky.

And then I remember that, wait a second, even though I'm about to be on national television, men still treat me like shit. But that's okay. That's all right because not for long. Not for effing long. she continues to say anyways i think i'm going to be a great influencer again guys this is before her season even premieres i feel like i'm really entertaining you're entertained right you buy anything i'm selling you right even if it's complete bullshit i think so wait don't answer that it's yes i mean it's pretty obvious is she making fun

Like, is this like a whole tongue and cheek monologue? It's so over the top. It almost seems like she's making fun of other influencers who have come from the show. She also goes on to say, to, um, to, to, to address clout chasers in her DMs, insinuating that men are trying to get with her now because she's about to be on TV. She says, men are trash. So let's go back for. second and remind you that sally of course was that girl who went to colton's room colton oh my god

we're all doing it aren't we went to clayton's room and said like i can't be here i was recently engaged it doesn't feel right he wanted to give her a rose well this is this is cassidy addressing this on on this resurfaced video she goes i realized that i am normally being dramatic but you as in clayton were going to give sally a rose even though she was engaged last week this is actually ironic and i kind of like the fact that she pointed this out she was meanwhile i someone a few months ago and i got sent home okay no it's cool i guess it. I get it. I get what we're made of here. I get this that this stuff is happening. Go fuck yourself Clayton Eckerd. This is what she said on Instagram. This past week, I think that there's a little

bit of a point. She gets in trouble for having like a friend with benefits at home because we know that this week she was called out, you know, for having a guy at home. We just. debated it on last week's episode whether it was kosher or not but this is it is funny that he eliminated one girl with a fiance but wouldn't really eliminate the girl who just hooked up with somebody casually uh but the fact that she goes on instagram this past week says says f you clayton i mean that's really not tasteful um but also she also um spoils the show by saying she gets eliminated do you remember ben a couple days ago yeah we were like is she going to get eliminated for this or is she going to hang around for a few more weeks well we have

our answer she literally spoiled the show which is bad contractually who just bad in general just not a good look um there's a lot there uh a lot of things a lot of things going on she's not happy it's going to be interesting to see how she exits what she does when she exits and to see how much we hear of cassidy as time moves on now um who knows we might not see much of her we might see a lot of her but it's hard to tell i can't imagine them even bring her to paradise after she spoiled a show like that you know yeah she probably just she probably just did not book her ticket to mexico well we only have one other headline today katie thurston and and boyfriend John Hersey reunite with Bachelorette Michael A.

Her quote is, Katie's quote is, this feels like a nightmare. Yes. Yeah. So that seems, it seems weird, right? But it was apparently anything but awkward. She was joking when she said that,

that she was on a group date, basically, with Michael and her new boyfriend. John feels like a nightmare. but that's just what she captioned her picture. It was a selfie. Yeah, so they were just like hanging out sunset meal in Mexico. And they, it wasn't just, it wasn't just them also. Luke Stone was there.

And it was just, it was all fun. So not really a nightmare, but Katie is a jokester. They were together in Mexico. They hung out a big group setting. it looked like they had a good time. And that's something that's always fun when you can kind of break through the awkwardness and just have a good time together as people. Well, hey, that's all we got for today's episode of the Almost Famous Podcast.

Thank you for listening. Thank you for joining us. We're going to be back here next week. Yes, we will. It's a huge episode. I'm not going to tell you why, but it's a big episode. A lot going on. And we're also going to be breaking down Clayton's next episode as The Bachelor.

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