The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Tears from a Rose

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

It's another week of Joey's season and Ben and Ashley are ready to recap every dramatic moment! Ashley reveals the emotional moment this week that brought her to tears.  Ben saw a different side of a... contestant that totally surprised him.  And, the Top 2 predictions are getting heated! Find out who Ben and Ashley think will score the final rose. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:10 Or wherever you get your podcast This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast with Iheart Radio It's an almost famous podcast Yes, we're breaking down Episode 8 of Joey's season of The Bachelor it's hometown week yeah there's four women left some twists some turns but to get started ashley you sent me a text that said you were crying watching ash or kelsey a's hometown date
Starting point is 00:02:39 i didn't ask why because i want to stay curious on here the zombie is Zach tell us what hit you the most oh my gosh so much of it um obviously her talking about her mom is really emotional I think that what hit me the most was just like her talking to her dad about the love that he had with her mom and then that moment where she said I think I'm I think I love him and then her dad goes I love you
Starting point is 00:03:12 and it was just like I can't stop dripping water from my eyes it was just so sweet and like to me there is just that well like he looks at Kelsey differently than he looks at everyone else. And he loved that family and that hometown more than anything else.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah, it was a really special hometown. There was a couple. I mean, I think all of these were special in their own way. It was a good hometown episode. It was, you know, there's something really cool about hometowns, Ashley. And you hear it from people
Starting point is 00:03:48 who have been through it. You know, you have all this emotion kind of building up. for weeks now where you have talked about your family. You've talked about maybe some of the harder parts of your life. You talked about some of the better parts of your life. You've talked about your family or your close relationships a lot. And you start to miss them because you're putting words to things you felt that maybe you've never expressed.
Starting point is 00:04:12 And everybody does it, right? And hometowns at this moment where you see everybody for the first time and it just kind of all comes spewing out. I also think that's why we see a lot of emotions during hometown weeks. I don't know Kelsey's relationship. I don't know Daisy's relationship. I don't know Rachel's relationship. And I don't know Maria's relationships outside of this episode with their family and what they've told us this season. But I will say, oftentimes in life, we neglect or maybe we assume that people know how we feel about them. And I think every hometown episode, there's these moments
Starting point is 00:04:49 where we see somebody express something or communicate something to somebody that it almost feels like it's maybe the first time because they're able to articulate their feelings really well because they've been thinking about it for a long time. And they've been going through Bachelor, like emotional. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:06 And so Kelsey A's hometown date and this moment with her father felt like that to me where I'm sure he knows that Kelsey loves him. And I'm sure he knows that Kelsey loves her mom. And I'm sure he knows all of these things, but it did feel like this like breakthrough moment kind of where they're going to walk out of that conversation like with confidence and knowing how everybody feels about them. And I think that's a really cool thing about these dates. And for me, it's a really fun part of these dates is just for everybody to walk out
Starting point is 00:05:39 being like, I know, I know how you feel about me. I know how much you respect me. And that's maybe what made me emotional watching Kelsey's date was just like the fact that her dad, had those words said to him from his daughter and then his daughter was able to express those words to her dad. So she'll never doubt that I tell dad enough how much I loved him or how much I respect him. I'm talking about when she said to him,
Starting point is 00:06:03 I feel I am in love with Joey. Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah, okay. Like, you mean the way that she was able to express that to her dad. All of it. The whole thing. The whole thing.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Like the whole thing. Also, there was something about the dad's warmth and openness towards Joey. that I really appreciated because you guys know after listening to this podcast for so many years that like sometimes I'm like oh the story the whole like protect the right I don't know I'm getting hurt like blah blah thing is like gets old for me because again maybe it's just like something that I can't relate to as much but it's like always about like guarding the heart and protecting and like don't hurt my daughter and I like the way that this man just sat down
Starting point is 00:06:46 with him. And he just seemed like really warm and open to Joey. It seemed like a real future father-in-law, son-in-law moment. And then even when they left, he said something like she's ready for this, like she's ready to be in love. And if she gets hurt, like she'll make it through. It's like, yeah, exactly. Like she's going to make it through. And then we saw, of course, with the other families, particularly with Rachel's. It was just like, I don't even know if I wanted to go through with this because possible heartbreak. But, you know, like, possible heartbreak.
Starting point is 00:07:28 But in the end, isn't it worth the love? Well, let's then go to Rachel's because Rachel's hometown date was the next day. Kelsey's A, hometown date was a just a beautiful time during this episode. And really, when it comes to this whole season, it made a lot of sense that the two of them. would continue on past this week, and I agree with you, it did feel like there was just a lot of love in the room, a lot of support in the room. Rachel's hometown date was similar in a lot of ways. It was really fun. There's a lot of good aspects to it, but it did feel, and Rachel even assumed that it was going to be a lot more difficult to go through this hometown date than the
Starting point is 00:08:10 others. My big question here, I don't think there, I mean, this was not a hometown date that will stand out in the history of hometown dates as a bad one, right? Yeah, it wasn't like so tough. No. It wasn't as tough as some of the others. I just do wonder when your daughter chooses, adult daughter chooses to go on this show, do you not hope that she will be coming to the hometown dates at some point? Because that means that she's around and that love still, you know, in the air. And there's a potential, you know, partnership that could be done.
Starting point is 00:08:41 so you hope for this moment but also you support your daughter's decision to do the show. Like you know what the show is. Like there's no surprise on what's happening and if you're going to be really against the idea that she's coming home
Starting point is 00:08:57 with a guy who's also dating other people, I feel like that's should have been a conversation way before you sign up. I think she probably had the conversation and then they're probably like you may not get that far. She was probably like,
Starting point is 00:09:13 I probably won't get that far. And then here they are. Okay. And then they were like, they were very nice at the beginning. And like not that they were ever mean, just like the mom was super warm and welcoming when she was doing the,
Starting point is 00:09:27 when he did the Filipino tradition. And then he was eating the pig. And everybody was having a blast. And then the mom just got really emotional thinking about the other girls involved. And I think a lot of it has to do with the ex-fiance. Yeah. And they just seem like they were probably really close to him.
Starting point is 00:09:43 And maybe like just the family as a whole doesn't really want to go through meeting and losing another potential husband. We've always given credit to the families on this podcast. It is hard. It's got to be weird. You almost just got to like, I feel like suck it up and go through the motions until the date's done. Because one, there's no convincing probably the person that's on the show. son or daughter that they should stop pursuing, you know, this relationship. Nobody's been
Starting point is 00:10:16 convinced out of the relationship because of parents' worries. Yeah. And it just feels like it does, when you are the parents that are a little more protective than others, it does feel like it puts a cloud over that experience a little bit. Yeah. It makes, you know, whoever the bachelor or bachelor is feel a little bit weary. Rachel's hometown date compared to the others, did feel like the most, you know, kind of protective. There was nothing that the mom said that I don't agree with, though. There was nothing that the dad said that I don't agree with. I like actually how he said, hey, you have my number.
Starting point is 00:10:53 If you want my blessing, you call me at the end. I think that's great. Yeah. But it wasn't the happy go lucky ones like the Kelsey's. You know, even though it was emotional, it was like really fun and there were a lot of laughs and it was really great to gather. The Daisy hometown, which we'll get to next. here, you know, obviously was a very like uplifting. There was some humor. There was a lot
Starting point is 00:11:16 of connection. You got to feel like you understood the family a little bit from that hometown date. You got to understand Daisy a little bit more. I'll be honest. At this point in the episode, Ashley, I thought Rachel was the one going home. I was fully confident. I thought that this was the one, like, if there was a question, the response from the families from this hometown date, this would have been the one to be like, I don't think they're in for this. And I don't think I can go through this process in the end without their support. And so, you know, Rachel should be the one to go home. That's really where my mind went.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Yeah, I can, yeah, he probably got in that car and probably had similar thoughts. He probably thought, okay, well, she's cuspy, you know? She's on the cusp. I don't know where these dates really fell in order of each other. we saw that with her I feel like almost everybody wasn't actually at their real house in this episode
Starting point is 00:12:15 did you get that vibe yeah definitely seemed like they were all like little rental homes and they said with Rachel that they weren't they were not going to fly to Hawaii like they weren't going to make that flight for this so it seemed like they were at her aunt's house and
Starting point is 00:12:30 what was weird about this date is that there was no there was no date date portion shown there was just the family time. They didn't have solo time. I'm sure they did,
Starting point is 00:12:44 but I just don't think that made cut. I actually think the like kind of the party outside. You think that was like their day day portion? I think so. Interesting. Okay. And then another thing of note
Starting point is 00:12:56 is that we only saw Joey ask Rachel's dad and then Maria's dad for permission to marry, which I thought was interesting considering those two that I thought were on the cusp in this episode. It happens every time.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I'm sure he'd probably ask both all four. He does. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think this is like necessarily even like producer manipulation. You ask all four. You know, you want to because you don't know how this is going to end at this point. You might have an idea, but you don't really know. And they had a response is that we'll talk about.
Starting point is 00:13:33 The others might have just been like, hey, go for it. Like, yeah. I mean, we did kind of, you know, we saw with Maria. think we saw it with Kelsey A, right? Did he? Maybe he referred to it in a different way. I feel like we kind of did. Yeah. I think we did.
Starting point is 00:13:48 The only one we really didn't see was Daisies. And I, you know, I don't know if it would have made sense. A father talk with Daisies. Yeah. So I do assume he talked to all of them and asked all the father's the same question. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly. And now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age.
Starting point is 00:14:35 And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips.
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Starting point is 00:17:30 I mean, this is obviously a family that we've heard a lot about based on their support for Daisy, their love for each other. Daisy's excitement to bring the family into this. There was a lot of excitement from Daisy leading up to, you know, walking into that house. Like, this was a great hometown date for me. It was probably the most normal, not normal in terms of like the family acted normal, just like what we expected of a hometown date on The Bachelor. There's, there's really nothing of no outside of her really, like, validating that her family is a great support system for her going through these times in these trials that her family really loves her. Like it, you know, the best, the thing that
Starting point is 00:18:11 stood up to me the most was the grandma at the very end said something to Joey. And I forget the exact wording that she said, but I was like, that's exactly what my grandma would say. Like, she said like, you know, keep going or do your best or something. I was like, that sounds like such a good grandma like statement there. Yeah, there was just like warm, cozy vibes in that room. And I just really think that like her parents are very likable. Her conversation with her dad was so cute. What did he say that made us laugh? He said he made, he's like, what's the worst thing that can happen?
Starting point is 00:18:45 You lose your hearing? Yeah, or yes. I was like, yes. He was just a dad being a dad. Like, that was a very authentic moment. And then her mom was very likable. And they, and she was also kind of poking fun at herself for being like, like, I am in love with him and like, why is this so hard for me? And I think our parents were
Starting point is 00:19:11 like, this is just, that's just you. Yeah. Or like, why is it so hard for you? They were supportive. Again, it was a very supportive vibe in there. It wasn't like an interrogation, which I just, again, really like. Yeah. I don't know if these hometown dates, and I think we'll see it as time continues on this show and it's more people watch and they kind of understand what their kids are getting into. I just don't know if the interrogation technique is necessarily. one that will ever come back. I'm sure we'll have a family that tries to throw it out there. I just don't find it helpful. I don't find it to be a good option for the people that have already been a part of the show. I feel like it's not the time or place anymore. I think afterwards,
Starting point is 00:19:50 you know, as you get to know this couple on your own and you get to see them live life together is when you can start asking those questions. But the hometown dates that get super, you know, tough kind of just feel awkward to me and they do feel misplaced. they tried to set up Maria's hometown as one of those that was going to be really tough, right? They played like the old Italian music behind it. I think the dad's Greek, too. I think she's maybe half Greek, half Italian.
Starting point is 00:20:17 But it was Italian, like, it was like mafia music. Well, yeah, and they had the spaghetti meatballs out on the table. Yeah. So it's like, you know, Italian Greek. I think like she has both in her family. But that, I mean, Maria's dad, yes, he, he was a strong figure. he was not tough maybe intimidating but you can tell that that dude just absolutely adores his daughter and he just wants Joey to know that yes she's going to be first but there was it was not intimidating
Starting point is 00:20:47 no no that man is a mush ball about his daughter yeah he really loves her it was very adorable but i will say that on this episode with maria from the moment they were at niagara falls to the ending when he left in the SUV, I was like, it's not there anymore. It's gone. I felt like I thought that she, I thought it was 100% going to be her leaving. Did you not feel, you really didn't feel the same?
Starting point is 00:21:18 I thought that he was just like, I'm over this. Like, there's too much up and down. There's too much of a lack of clarity. And I don't think this should freak somebody out, but I think it was alarming to him that she had never taken a guy home. at 29. I think there's a lot of questions. I mean, he did act like he had a lot of questions based on that.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I really thought she was going to be around. I didn't see the relationship progressing from this hometown. But I really thought she was still, you know, in the top three for me up until the very last moments of the show. I don't, my curiosity comes up. Ashley, do you think if she opens up more to Joey at the hometown, his mind has changed going into the rose ceremony. I don't.
Starting point is 00:22:03 I think he was gone before before that last moment when they were sitting at the bench and he was definitely waiting for her to say it, to say something along the lines of it I'm falling for you. And of course, she said,
Starting point is 00:22:15 I choked, I just couldn't get it out. And I think that, I can't, I go back and forth. I think he wanted her to say it, but I don't think it would have changed things.
Starting point is 00:22:29 It was almost like a test. Yeah, then he didn't want her to say it. Yeah, maybe he, he definitely didn't want her to say it when she said it. Sure, but it's just not fun. Like, there's no way if his mind was made up in that moment that he wanted her to express any more emotion because it's not an ideal situation when you sit there and you hear this, this, these words of vulnerability and then you know, but you're also going to be going home this week. And I think in his mind, honestly, if I was to play psychic, he was going, I'm glad she didn't
Starting point is 00:23:00 say anything. Are you sure though? Because in his eyes, it did say, his eyes to me said, I want you to say it. I think his eyes are saying, don't say it. Really? Because then I, when she didn't say it, I thought he seemed disappointed and like almost yeah, almost annoyed.
Starting point is 00:23:19 I think he's, but probably he might have been annoyed, confused, exhausted. Exhausted. I mean, I think exhausted would be kind of our term here as we enter into the last few weeks of this season is he's really tired. We talked about it last week. He's exhausted. I saw a funny Instagram like real or memes about that too. I was like, oh, this is exactly what Ben was talking about. Yeah, he's tired.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And so, you know, any more kind of pulling at the heartstrings, any more deep conversations, one, you welcome them, but also they're tiring to you. And you, and you're, you almost celebrate when people hold on to whatever it is they need to hold on to if you know they're going to going home because it means that you don't have to enter into that space necessarily. You don't have to respond to anything. You're tired. Yeah. And I also think that she couldn't say it because I don't know if she felt it.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I think she liked him. I think she liked him as like a boyfriend, somebody to date. I don't know if she was in love with them. Yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly. And now I'm seriously. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
Starting point is 00:24:34 This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating.
Starting point is 00:24:54 He insists there's nothing between them. Do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.
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Starting point is 00:27:06 Listen wherever you get your podcasts. It'll be interesting as we continue to get more conversations from Maria now that she's off the show. Kind of where she sees love existing or if she did feel that love. and she might say she did and maybe she did at the end she says it at the end at the airport hangar but it'll be interesting to kind of hear you know if she hasn't brought anybody home and she had a hard time expressing this to joey like what is the hang up there or and that's not a bad thing i'm curious like what is people's journeys of love or have they actually found love and if she looks back on her relationship with joey now and she goes that is a guy i would want to marry
Starting point is 00:27:49 and so i'm looking for my next joey that we've had people come off of the show saying that before. I'm looking for my next person that was like that person. Maria's interviews are going to be really fascinating to me. Well, obviously, we've already talked about the Rose ceremony comes up next. Maria does tell Joey that she is falling for him, that she's in love with him. Don't you love the airport hangar moment? This is my favorite row ceremony. I love it when they do it there. It's so dramatic. It is very dramatic. With the big old jets in the background. Yeah, the big old jets. And Maria does go home. home. Shocker for me, not as much for Ashley. So Rachel, Kelsey A, and Daisy are moving on now
Starting point is 00:28:30 to overnights. They're going to Tulum, Mexico. How pissed was Rachel when Maria pulled him aside? Really mad. And I get it. The week before he pulled her aside before a rose ceremony. Yeah. And she's like, what are you going to say now? You got to say something now. Did you have a whole hometown to say it? I get it. I mean, I get it. I get it. I also think I also feel like there is that level of if you have something to say, say it
Starting point is 00:29:01 because you're going to regret if you don't. I get it, but I do think she said it just in that moment as like a Hail Mary. I don't. It was a Hail Mary. That's all I'm going to say. Yeah, but yeah, Rachel was not happy.
Starting point is 00:29:16 It did show a different side of Rachel that we haven't seen yet. Yeah, but I enjoyed it. It was real. I don't think it's a bad. I just think it's the side we haven't seen. We haven't seen that kind of that side of Rachel
Starting point is 00:29:26 where she is confronting situation. She didn't really like ever say Maria that was ridiculous. How could you do that? She was just like, what are you doing? Stop like stop doing whatever it is you think you need to do at these rose ceremonies. And I'm assuming at that point too,
Starting point is 00:29:40 Rachel was probably wondering if she was the one going home. I know. She obviously was the sassyest one because I think she knew that she was also on the cutting room floor. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Her stomach was a knots. Ashley, we go into overnight now in Tulum.
Starting point is 00:29:58 For me, it's Daisy and Kelsey A. There's really, yeah, like I'll be shocked if it's anything different than that. I think the Rachel breakup is going to be really emotional, but I think it's like very clear at this point who the closest relationships exist with. And I mean, it's really been Daisy and Kelsey A
Starting point is 00:30:17 since episode one. Like if we're, if we're honest, it hasn't changed, nothing switched. There hasn't been any signs, signals. And at this point, in the season, there's no, like, hidden traps outside of one of these women
Starting point is 00:30:32 not fully falling for him and leaving him at the altar, which is his biggest concern. And which has been played up all season long as if it'll happen. And there's a teaser in that scenes to the next episode that seem like,
Starting point is 00:30:44 could it be happening? Because somebody left a note in his door that said, we need to talk. Here's the one thing about Joey. I don't understand why he hasn't done it yet. I think he's been a fantastic bachelor. That's not a shock.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I don't know why when he's with these women in these moments where they're expressing their feelings for each other, why he doesn't say, hey, I mean, he had the space for it. You know, he mentions all of them now know his biggest fears that he'll be left at the altar. Why he doesn't ask the question to them, hey, if it is you at the end, would, like, where would you stand? Like, would you say yes to this? and he doesn't ask that question
Starting point is 00:31:24 at least we haven't seen it yet but I think it would give him some reassurance that no these women aren't leaving him maybe he'll do it now maybe he'll do it in the fantasy suites maybe you should
Starting point is 00:31:37 he's where all the good stuff unfolds well the mics are off and yeah and then we always have these blank spaces after fantasy suites like what was said in there that didn't make any sense
Starting point is 00:31:48 to us audience members yeah speaking of moments that didn't make sense to audience members, the Leslie switch. We all remember Leslie going into the fantasy suite as like Gary's front runner. Well, she's back and she seems to be mentoring Kelsey. And we have a couple of the other golden ladies coming back to, you know, give advice to the girls. They are milking the golden bachelor cast as much as they possibly can. And it's very cute.
Starting point is 00:32:14 So we shall see how next week unfolds. You guys know this is like my very favorite part of the season, hometowns and on. So, so good. Can't wait for the drama. Uh-huh. I did stop in and see Joey this week during the filming of this season. Oh, you mean this coming week? You were actually present for it.
Starting point is 00:32:34 For hometown week, I was there. Got to talk to him about to break. Oh, you were at hometown week. You were supposed to be seen before the airport hangar. Yeah. But so I did get a little sneak peek into where his mind was at and to kind of what he was thinking. I will say this.
Starting point is 00:32:51 At that point in time, I left that conversation knowing he was going to be a great bachelor, also knowing that this has been really hard for him emotionally and very curious to see how it ends up. Well, he had to tell you that there was, did he give you names? Did you leave knowing in your mind, not because he actually said somebody's name. Did you leave in your mind knowing he was going to pick? At the end, no. Oh, no. This week, yes, it was a shock to me. What happened? At the end of this past episode, like as in like hometown episodes,
Starting point is 00:33:26 you were shocked because you thought he was going to keep Maria around? Yeah. Interesting. I know. I know. That's so interesting. Yeah. But I'm really terrible television because I've done three different
Starting point is 00:33:41 filmings with the show now. No, four and none of them have aired. I am a dud. Like they bring me in to literally, I don't know what my role is there to fill space to like, do entertainment um i don't know what it is but uh i watch and i go i think this is when i was there oh maybe not then why this obviously obviously you're fantastic tv but this has happened a lot in the past year for you it's been a while and you take time and you fly to l a day for you stay
Starting point is 00:34:11 overnight for two nights and then yeah for joey i would do it i'm happy i was happy to do it for gary happy to do it not even a problem uh not even an issue i was happy to do it. I still am. I look at it and go, hey, I don't, you know what?
Starting point is 00:34:26 Honestly, at this point, it's not that big a deal. But I will say, I left that conversation going, this is going to be a good season. And it has been, and we'll be back next week
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