The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Teresa Giudice and Luis “Louie” Ruelas…Making Their Haters “FLIP”!

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

A chance meeting on the Jersey Shore was an instant love connection! RHONJ stars Teresa and Louie found love in chapter 2!After public scandal, jail, and her ex being deported…Teresa hadn&rsquo...;t given up on love. From blending their families to the scrutiny they faced on Housewives, this couple is opening up about the highs and lows.  Plus, Teresa is giving Amy & TJ an update on RHONJ and where things stand with her brother and sister-in-law. Email us at: IDOPOD@iheartradio.com or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years, until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls, came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight.
Starting point is 00:00:50 And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke. A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old. And a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? Listen to heavyweight on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B. My marriage, I felt the love dying.
Starting point is 00:01:27 I was crying every day. I felt in the deepest depression that I had ever had. This shit was not given to me. I worked my ass off for me. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF disrupted, The Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech start. up. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned
Starting point is 00:02:03 and angry patience. You think you're finally like in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IvyF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just a dream. It was a battlefield. It's a freaking war zone. These people are animals. The Model Wars podcast peels back the glossy cover and reveals a high-stakes game where survival meant more than beauty. Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatus, this is the untold story of an industry built a ruthless ambition. Listen to Model Wars on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, folks, welcome to Ido Part 2.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And if you got love right, the first time around, this is not the podcast for you. We are your host, Angry Robach and T.J. Holmes. And if you have been a bit of a mess, but not willing to give up on love, maybe you get it right the second time, third time, as long as you hang in there, this is the place to be. Yes, no one's counting. No one's judging here. Yes. And so our next guest today know a little bit about finding love the second time around. Yes, we have the amazing.
Starting point is 00:03:35 I don't need to introduce her, Teresa, Judeis, with us along with the, well, you're also now Special Forces alum, right? Yes, yes, yes. You know her and love her from the Real Housewives of New Jersey. And her husband, Louis Ruelas, is now with us. Did I say that right? Yeah, you said it really good. Okay, all right. I just want to make sure I got that right.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Yeah, we're just meeting Louis. Louis coming in, hot today. He was ready to chat it up. Now, I have to ask first and foremost, tell me the story. How did you all meet in the first place? How did that meeting happen? You want to tell the story? Yes, I used it.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Please, please. We, I had taken my company public on the NASSEC. And I asked my assistant, what do I do for this week? Because my other two partners said kids, they're married. And I was like the single guy, a single parent. Right? So she's like, go to the Jersey Shore. So I rented house in Jersey Shore. And he's never been to the Jersey Shore.
Starting point is 00:04:29 That was his first time. I mean, a couple times when I was a kid, you know, very little. But I wasn't normally a Jersey Shore type of guy, right? So I went down to the Jersey Shore, rented a house down there, and was there for a week. I went down on a Saturday. I came back up to Wall Street on Thursday. And the next morning, I was, this is, I'll say this is probably a little better. I was sitting in my stoop.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I was actually more of a runner then, but sitting in my stoop. and I was like sad, you know, and because I just had like a really good moment in my life and I was alone, you know, and my son comes towards me, he's like, Dad, you know, what's wrong, telling what's going on. And I'm like, let's pack up. We had the house till Saturday. It's Friday morning. Let's just go back to our house. We've got a pool there. We got our dogs there.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Because it was raining. It was raining, you know. And so we, so I decided to, so we're just having a little moment there. And then Teresa walked by with her two friends. Stop. Yeah, yeah. I was exercise, like, that was my exercise, my, my morning, like, you know, ritual that I would go, we would go exercise, walk, like, walk past day. COVID walking.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Everybody was COVID walking, right? So, like, so then we're sitting there and Teresa's friend, you know, it was like. And I didn't even want to, Amy, I didn't want to go walking at that time. It was 11.30 in the afternoon. I usually go walking, like, early in the morning, because before it gets hot. And that day, we were hung over. We went out the night before. We went, I drove back up north.
Starting point is 00:05:51 So I was hung over that morning And then my friends are like forcing me They're like come on let's come on It's rainy It's cloudy They're like let's just go And I'm like not now It's 1130 or you crazy
Starting point is 00:06:01 It's too hot now I'm like I'm not going walking And they Come on let's go So sometimes I just want The viewers to know Sometimes when you don't want to do something That's when magic happens
Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah So she's walking by though What happens She's walking by her friends Her friend waves In some sort of way Well I was pointing at his car I tell you
Starting point is 00:06:21 exact and my story never changes. He had a white range rover with black rims and I was just pointing. I'm like, oh, that guy has my car because I just got rid of mine. And then I guess when I pointed, he thought I waved. And then that's when my friend said,
Starting point is 00:06:36 I'm going to go talk, my married friend. So it was my married friend and then me and my other friend were single. So my married friend's like, I want to go talk to him. You know, talk to him for me, either me or my friend, Rosanna, you know? And then she went to go talk to him.
Starting point is 00:06:49 And she was talking to him and then go keep going. Sure? Yeah, I like that. Going back at point. Yeah, I like that. So, so, so, um, so her friend, uh, says, come over and talk. So we, I walked across the street.
Starting point is 00:07:04 It was like the, they had the medium with grass, whatever. So went over and started talking to them a little bit, went to my son, walked to my son. I was all disheveled from just running and, uh, um, I had two business cards on me. We were just chatting a little bit. I didn't really know who you were, you know, of course I knew who she was afterwards because then you, you know, you're Googling everybody. fast you know and so said told him who I was yeah I gave him two business cards and uh that was really it you know just said whatever you know she's like if i want to call you text you i'll
Starting point is 00:07:31 reach out to you and whatever so i'm like okay whatever so we walked back packed up the cars get to the get in the car my son's like dad you know you were just talking to like no it shows me his phone this is teresa whatever so then i walk i drove we're driving past her on the way out and because it's like one way in one way out in that area and she um and i said teresa my son was you know just breaking my chops because i didn't and asked you for your number. And she's like, long story, she's like, listen, if I want to talk to you,
Starting point is 00:07:55 I'll reach out to you. So we have an hour and a half right home. Because I was embarrassed to give my number. His son was right there with his girlfriend. So I was like, I have your card. I'll text you. So about a half hour later, she texts me. And, you know, that night we talked for a long time.
Starting point is 00:08:10 What the text said? Well, my friend took my, my married friend, takes my phone. And then it's so weird. A psychic told me I wasn't going to meet someone. This is, you know what I was like. It was, like, so crazy. Like, as we're walking with my friend, I look at my friend.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And I said, that's one of my best friends. And I tell you, I said, oh, my God, the psychic told me I was meeting somebody. And, and, like, it was just weird how he said he just took, like, I know, he said he was just in Wall Street. And that psychic told me that I was meeting somebody on Wall Street. It was so, so me and my friends started jumping up. What the actual. Like, as we're walking, I swear to God, as we're walking, we and her. jumping up and down and I'm like what I'm like this is so weird and then she took my phone and then
Starting point is 00:08:56 she's like I'm texting him and then she just texted him like she said hi Lewis it was very nice Lewis you still have he he's so great he has everything but like you know I don't want to you everything like that's what like I love it's very nice to meet you this is my number Teresa and then just went from there just went into like conversation wait a second but that first text was not written by you what was my girlfriend married the one that went up to him Because I was embarrassed. Like, yeah, I don't know. I'm not a good text.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I'm really not. I'm a phone person. Yes. Yeah, I hate text. So it started with a lie, is what you're saying. Yeah, so, yeah, no. And we talked that whole night. Oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:09:35 And then the next day, like, on the phone. She had a friend with her. Her friend was, like, had like 50 questions, like vetting me out. Yeah, that night. And I'm like, he's never going to call me again. I'm like, what do you? Like, she made me asking, like, 50 questions. I'm like, this guy's never calling me again.
Starting point is 00:09:49 but he liked that and then the next night he asked me 50 questions. I'm like, I got to listen to all day long writing these questions you like scrambled
Starting point is 00:09:55 you're like fried you're like forgiveness or permission in a relationship and starting into all these different things and we just connected it was really cool
Starting point is 00:10:02 you know you connected with her but Louis when your son Googled her and you said you googled her later were you like all in did you have concerns
Starting point is 00:10:11 like wait what am I getting myself into I wasn't I got to be honest I wasn't I wasn't all in and it wasn't out of ego It was out of like, you know, just in my own words, it was like, I already had like a couple like, you know, as everybody does, a couple hand grenade relationships, you know, not everyone, not blaming them, but like it was on both sides, you know, so nothing was perfect. And so I really wasn't ready for that because even like we talked for two nights and the next day I didn't call her.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And she says, and then she calls me late night like around 11.30 p.m. and she said, you know, this is interesting. You said to me, if you don't call me, I'm not going to know if you like me or not. And I'm like, you know, something, you're so right. I go, listen, I'm damaged. And so, like, I don't, I don't, I don't, you know, I don't, you know, I don't want you to pay for someone else's mistakes or some other shit that I've been through. Let's, let's, you know, you're right. So then from that day forward, we really. Yeah, because I was like, I don't know if this guy's playing games.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Yeah, I'm like, I'm not playing games. Because we talked for two days and then he didn't call me. He's like, well, I didn't, you know, you're Teresa Jude, so I didn't know if you were busy. Yeah. You know, and I was like, no, I won't be too busy for you if you call. me you know and then I said yeah you did say that and I said to him I said I'm not gonna you know if you if you want to play games I'm not the right I'm the wrong girl for you to play games with I said it straight and that was in he never like that was it and after that it was like I loved it because
Starting point is 00:11:31 a lot of girls a lot of women would be like he didn't call me and then just freak out and then be done with it because they're too afraid of getting hurt or too afraid of getting played I love that you just directly called him and said what's going on yeah yeah and yeah because I was just like I'm not gonna play this game no I'm like that's fine if you don't you know yeah like I just I'm just a wrong girl to play any games with you know yeah and then I told you like I look I don't want to be hurt I I'm I'm in a vulnerable state right now I was full-time parent with two kids my oldest says autism and I was a full-time parent so I was I already went through something that I didn't want to go through again and
Starting point is 00:12:06 then of that whole day I was reading about you my neighbors are you know who would just throw me like a little party for doing something like my company I was like you know be careful it is you know Opinion. Wow. Yeah. So like, like, you're like, what I loved about your, your guy's story, and I don't mean to flip the script.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Oh, please. You leaned into love, right? Man. I leaned. Yeah, you did. And, and, uh, I, I, I, you know, when, when you said that to me, that was like, that was like a defy a moment of our relationship or even the beginning because I'm like, you're, you're, you're not going to play games.
Starting point is 00:12:36 You don't want to play games, but you're also not, you're also there to show up, you know? And it was kind of cool because I, I wanted to meet somebody amazing. and, you know, in that moment, it was, you know, it just got better and better. You know, COVID dating was, like, walking, you know, so we would walk all the time, you know, just walk around. Remember the first time I kissed you, we were out walking, and I said, hey, do you know anybody around here? It was playing that little move, right? And she's like, no, I know anybody around here. And I kissed her, she goes, yeah, but they all know me.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I'm like, no, no, it's not like that. You know, like, I didn't get it. I just, I was so naive to like the TV, the show. Yeah, because I was like, oh, my God. She's like, everybody goes to take a picture. I'm like, no, no, I can't like that. So I was trying to keep him on the down low. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Remember that. And then like maybe like two months later, three months later, because, you know, it took about three months to get like even closely intimate in any, on any level. I'm like, I'm like, you want to, want to travel a little bit? And, you know, let's go away. My brother is in Florida, you know.
Starting point is 00:13:29 So I got to, I've read through a private jet. I took her friend as like security blanket for you, too. You know, like, you had a friend there. And then she hooked up with his brother. But then we're down there. And she's like, people are going to know me down here. I'm like, no, no, we're in Florida now. And then we get there and I'm like and she's like in that you guys are hiding in the
Starting point is 00:13:44 hallways because I didn't want no I didn't want somebody to take a picture because then they were going to post it I didn't know the whole picture thing I didn't have social media I had Facebook for my kids I don't Instagram I didn't know I didn't get it I didn't I know he really didn't he didn't understand sometimes he shows like my wife son it's like you know and I don't mean to say this in regards to any particular guy but a lot of them like they you know I've noticed that they are very invested and I was like I didn't I did that wasn't important I had my own means you know I was cool and I really was like I was like it was like it was one foot here being a dad and a parent and the other
Starting point is 00:14:22 and protecting myself and the other side was like you know testing a new relationship and finding love but yeah like I went on a show and I wasn't I wasn't prepared for the show what they would say how they would gamify little scenes that like six months later it comes out you're like what the hell I didn't know that you know like it and yeah and I didn't I didn't know, Amy, like, guys, I swear I didn't know. Like, I didn't know that people were going to hurt my husband like that, like they did on my, you know, on my house in New Jersey. I didn't know that because if I knew that, I would have warned him. Like, I did not know.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Like, I thought, like, huh? You did. You kept saying to me, make sure you watch the show. Oh, I said to him, watch the show because he's really smart. You know, I'm just saying nobody, to me is why I say he's so smart because not just anybody could take their company public, you know, so I know he's a smart man. So I said to him watch the show, but when he didn't understand to watch, he didn't watch the show. No, I watched the show and the kids like laughing me all the time when, I mean, we don't talk about this anymore. But like, I'm like, I did watch the show.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I just get cheeseburgers. We'd go in our living room because I had my two sons. And I'd be like, oh, my God, that's Teresa. I can't believe. Like, I'm dating this woman that's on TV. You know, I didn't pick up on all the, you know, the heat-seeking missiles that are going on, all the whole, like, you know, all this. He didn't watch it to, like, and study the show. what's actually happening.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Yeah, like, like, you know, the, you know what I mean. Yes, I'm a woman, I know exactly. She, exactly. I didn't know either, though. See, I just said to him because I just wanted him to prepare himself for it. I didn't even know that they were going to do what they did to him. I really didn't because, like, then I don't know. Remember the first time we were filming?
Starting point is 00:15:58 I went to go film with when she's like, started filming with her. They wanted to do a date night and, you know, her brother's on the show, you know, and I'm not here saying anything bad about the guy because it's just, you know, there's, we really haven't yet had our time. time to grow as brother-in-laws, you know, like, that's unfortunate, you know, but that's just the way life is. But I remember one time we were filming and, and I was just eating, just getting into eating. And everybody, you know, that I look back down, everybody was very well prepared for like, what could come next, you know, what, what this guy could say, that guy could say,
Starting point is 00:16:26 and then it's a, it's a gamification, right? And then he came at me in one scene. And I was like, so take it back. I'm like, what are you doing, man? Like, you're just out of her house on Sunday night. I'm pasta. Like, what's going on here? You know, like, because that's how that show is. I know. No, I know, but I didn't know, because, like, it's not fair. Some people say to me, like, they knew, he knew, he knew what he was signing up for. I'm like, no, he did not. And I didn't even know, guys, I swear, like, I didn't not know.
Starting point is 00:16:52 They were going to, here I am so in love. I mean, they're getting pictures of you, like, you walk out of a restaurant. Remember the first time we got a phone call? No, no, we know. Yeah, Lord's like, he was always like, I was at 235th rooftop. Oh, yeah. We're in a little big loo. And I'm like, no, we're cool here, we're cool.
Starting point is 00:17:07 And I get a phone call. They're like, you're not getting out of there. Because I'm like, no one's taking our picture. We're fine. We can totally let loose. Next day, pictures everywhere. I'm like, dang, I should have listened to you. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Like, they called me. They're like, there's no way you're getting out of this place. They're going to get your picture now. I start sweating. I'm like, oh, my God, it's crazy. What do I do? So I said to him, just smile. Follow my lead and just smile.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Like, I get in a candy shop, man. Because I'm like, just smile. I'm like, what do I do right now? She's like, I'm like, okay, I'm just going to touch your face. I just touch your face. I'm like, just smile, follow my leave. Whatever I do, you just do, and that's it. All I know is what I've been told.
Starting point is 00:17:53 And that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved. until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer,
Starting point is 00:18:34 And I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her. Or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? And I help a man atone for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old. And so I pointed the gun at him and said, this isn't a joke.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And he got down, and I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power. Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother try to solve my problems through hypnotism. We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like super charming all the time. Being more able to look people in the eye. Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to Heavyweight on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B.
Starting point is 00:20:36 My marriage, I felt the love dying. I was crying every day. I felt in the deepest depression that I had ever had. How do you think you're misunderstood? I'm not this evil, mean person that people think that I am. I'm too compassionate. I have sympathy for that my man. You put so much heart and soul into your work.
Starting point is 00:21:00 What's the hardest part for you to take that criticism? This shit was not given to me. I worked my ass off for me. Even when I was a stripper, I'm going to be the best pole dancer in here. When was the moment you felt I did it? I still, to this day, don't feel comfortable. I fight every day to keep this level of success because people want to take it from you so bad.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeard podcast present. IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story. A podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Backed by millions in venture capital and... private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Power struggles, shady money, drugs, violence, and broken promises.
Starting point is 00:22:34 It's a freaking war zone. These people are animals. There's no integrity. There's no loyalty. That's all gone. In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just a dream. It was a battlefield. Book, book, book.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Make deals. Let's get models in. Let's get them out. And the models themselves? They carried scars that never fully healed. Until this day, honestly, if I see a measuring tape, I freak out. The Model Wars podcast peels back the glossy cover and reveals a high-stakes game where survival meant more than beauty.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatis, this is the untold story of an industry built on ruthless ambition. Listen to Model Wars on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Did it test your relationship? Did it bring you closer together? How did it impact? I mean, you all, just to be thrust into this world and to have a lot of incoming,
Starting point is 00:23:40 that can usually do one of two things. I mean, thank God, like, we are good. Like, thank God that we were solid. Because, like, me and him, we get along amazing. Like, knock on one, right? And it's like it was just that. outside noise with us that were trying to break us up like all the outside note with the show and everything and like trying to hurt him and and and me i want to like i'm a protective mode like
Starting point is 00:24:09 leave him alone he did nothing like i know how he is with me i know how he treats my daughters so that's why i was so like that's why i was the way it was on the show you mentioned the external noise but what about on your inner circle who are the folks saying to you don't do this who are folks Saying to you, don't do this. I had a pretty big company, and a lot of, you know, probably 700 employees, three partners. You know, we built something pretty amazing together, little by little, you know, for like 20 years. And my partner flies up, it's like, I need to take you and Louis out to lunch. And I'm like, oh, here it comes, right, the advice.
Starting point is 00:24:41 You know, the friend that's going to give you the advice. Like, yo, you just got out of the oven and you're going into the fire. Am I? And then Louis, thank out my son's seriously. My son's like, like, Joe, you don't understand. Like, Teresa's different. You know, we, you know, because at that, it was just after. you're like, I'm going to come to your house and make dinner for your family.
Starting point is 00:24:58 So, Teresa comes over, and she's in the kitchen, like, she's a three, two, nine, three New York Times bestselling author, cookbook author. So she's, and I'm just like, holy shit, she's banging it out. In the kitchen, my mother's, my mother's like this. My sister's like, my sister's, my dad, I have a Mexican dad is in the living room, like, you know, like, you know, just like, who is this? Who is this? And eventually's like, I know who she is.
Starting point is 00:25:18 I'm like, and we, I said, don't tell my father anything. My father's like, you know, then he put two and two together with the story of you and your ex-husband and that's where that kind of went but um i know and at first i wasn't divorced yet and his mom said to him she's not divorced and i was like and i wasn't because i was there was no rush he left the country so i was like i didn't i wasn't divorced yet so then i had to get divorce and that was quick because did you get divorced because it was the right thing to do because you were in a new relationship right i mean i was going to get divorced but there was no rush because i wasn't with anyone so then when i met him right away i did it i mean it was quick
Starting point is 00:25:53 But it was my dad. Let me say a quick story. My dad is really cool. Like my dad who I didn't grow up too close to, right? I went to him and he's like, you've got to be careful. Like a dad, she's very different. She's not, she's not like everybody else. She's like, if she was, she'd be such a, you know, because when you're a TV and you
Starting point is 00:26:09 got fame and you have all that celebrityness, whatever you want to call it, all that public figure stuff, you know, you could just be very different entitled, you know. And he's like, you know what? Then you lean into that. And you love her. And you just, you take it. and you know because I started taking a lot in the beginning you know and um yeah getting ridiculed getting judged to getting criticized you know anybody can make up a story that I was had llamas running
Starting point is 00:26:32 through my liver room and they believe it right we know and so so like it was it was you know thank you I'm sorry I love you too and so that's that's how that went but you know I and and eventually I started saying to myself maybe maybe inside of like nine months to a year I said wow I recognized who she was as a person, as a mother, what she meant to me at that moment. And I'm like, man, I'm going to go, I'm, I'm going to fight for her. Even if I started, because it started happy to be, lose, like, I lost a lot of stuff my life, you know, my business and a lot of hits here, there. My board fired me because of being in the public eye.
Starting point is 00:27:08 And I'm like, yo, you don't understand. And again, when you say the, if we're, we're like, we take her on vacation and some dude would walk over, hey, man, while you were sleeping, there's a guy in that towel over there. And I'm like, holy shit. It's so, like, off-putting for me. Like, I did not want to be. famous i didn't want to be on tv i just like really happy i met a woman that like like was that was i was you know you know like even though you were in relationships you could be alone in those
Starting point is 00:27:30 relationships yes and it's nobody's fault it's just reality right so she she she like taught me how to like she she she made it safe to love wow and not be judged because you know sometimes partners and relationships weaponize that you know you love too hard you love the red flags out of somebody. And I just, I just, I just, she was just perfect, you know, honestly. Aw. It's true. How long before you knew, like, this, this chaos probably started pretty quickly. How long before you knew, I'm going to ask this woman to marry me? Um, it was, I mean, we met in, we met in July. And then, uh, we went through our first Christmas together, which, you know, I'm like, mom, dad, trees once happened over Christmas. And it was, we go in the house,
Starting point is 00:28:12 and I'm like, damn, you was really no balloon, you know, she's a balloon person who's like, thousand balloons and it was like wow right like so then there's these gifts and all this and it was it was uh it was probably that winter the curve of the year we went away for new year's eve the curve of the year that like uh you know like i didn't want to waste time i was you know i was in a phase i was i had the ability at that time to like take a break from work worked really hard you know like had an exit of a company and still you know has some residuals coming back from that so i was like let me just you know like let's let me just let me just make this amazing you know and and I wasn't really present in a lot of
Starting point is 00:28:52 my relationships it's funny I'm just driving my son was she was just asked me out his mom and I was like something don't you know don't ever blame mom you know like you know because he idolizes me I'm like blame your dad too but don't blame me you know like don't don't grow up being mad at your parents you know to just understand that like we're all we all work with what we know at the time you know so yeah so it was you know and I still I still get uncomfortable when people are, you know, being in the public eye. It's very, it's very, it's very intrusive, you know. And when I'm, you know, Melania protects me a lot.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Come on, leave, stay with me, you know, like she'll always grab my arm. We were just in Madrid last week and, you know, for a work event. And, you know, it's, you know, but the girls have been amazing, you know, she's incredible. But is there going to be more of that to come? I mean, obviously, we have to ask this for the fans. Are you all going to be back in the public eye on the show again in some way? Where is the show? What's the status of the show?
Starting point is 00:29:46 I don't know. I mean, we're waiting for Bravo to make a decision. That's where we're at right now. It's Bravo's decision to make? Yes. Yeah, they call the shots. Yeah. So whatever they say, if they want me back, you know, I'm willing to go back.
Starting point is 00:30:02 No, I'm kidding. No, what I mean, you know, it is, I mean, and then I even said to him, I'm like, it's, you know, if we don't. And if I get asked back, who knows? I'm like, do you want me to go back? And he's like, whatever you want to do. Like, you know, just because, you know, was very ugly. And it was, you know, they were trying to, instead of, they were coming after me. They wanted to hurt me.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Instead of hurting me, they went after him to hurt me, you know. And when you say they, you mean members of your own family. Well, my cast members. Yes, my cast members. If you watch the show, you'll see it. Yes. Yes. How are those relationships at this moment?
Starting point is 00:30:39 Well, my brother, I and my sister-in-law, I'm not speaking to, but I, did reach out, and I said, because you know what, time does heal all wounds. And, you know, when time goes by, you forget things. So I'm just like, you know, G and I were on special forces. We, you know, we spent a lot of time before we actually started special forces. And we talked a lot about a lot of things. So I want to be a good example for my children. I have four daughters.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And like, I don't want them to ever say, you know, I always, I always tell them, like, I always want you guys to get along. please always be there for each other. I know you guys are going to marry other people, but always put you, you know, your sister first. Or not first, but like always don't forget about your sister. Like, you know, be a family. Be a beautiful family.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Like if someone doesn't get along, just be the bigger person, try to make it work, blah, blah, blah. So I can't, you know, I got to practice what I preach, right? So that's why with my brother, I reached out to him. And I mean, I put it out there Because the only reason why I put it out there is Jeff Lewis asked me So that's how the conversation started
Starting point is 00:31:48 So now I'm like, you know what, never say never Because before I was just like, absolutely not I'm Italian, I'm like very stubborn I'm like, it's never going to happen But now after like, you know, time It's been over, I haven't really I would say my brother hasn't really been in my life We've been married three years
Starting point is 00:32:07 But the drama started even before that I was going to ask, can you remember a time when you and Joe Melissa all got along? When I first met him, my first Christmas, they were at my house. Oh, no. Even when we moved into our house, they came over, their first Christmas when we moved into our house. So, yeah, so what, how many years ago was that? That Christmas we were together, and then that's after. So that was the last Christmas we had together with them, 2021.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Well, you said you reached out. Is there a back and forth? Is there? Yes. Yeah, so we're, you know, I think we're going to meet and, like, and speak. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved. until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
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Starting point is 00:33:51 They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart.
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Starting point is 00:35:12 where you're like super charming all the time. Being more able to look people in the eye. Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to Heavyweight on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B.
Starting point is 00:35:38 My marriage, I felt the love dying. I was crying every day. I felt in the deepest depression that I had ever had. How do you think you're misunderstood? I'm not this evil, mean person that people think that I am. I'm too compassionate. I have sympathy for that fuck my man. Put so much heart and soul into your work.
Starting point is 00:36:02 What's the hardest part for you to take that criticism? This shit was not given to me I worked my ass off for me Even when I was a stripper I'm gonna be the best pole dancer in here When was the moment you felt I did it I still to this day don't feel comfortable I fight every day to keep this level of success
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Starting point is 00:37:44 In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just a dream. It was a battlefield. Book, book, book. Make deals. Let's get models in. Let's get them out. And the models themselves? They carried scars that never fully healed.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Until this day, honestly, if I see a measuring tape, I freak out. The Model Wars podcast peels back the glossy cut. and reveals a high-stakes game where survival meant more than beauty. Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatus, this is the untold story of an industry built on ruthless ambition. Listen to Model Wars on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Listening to you all talk about the show, if Bravo called and said it's not coming back, would you all feel a stronger sense of disappointment or relief? I don't, I mean, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Like, I'm okay. You know, if they don't want me back, it's okay. If they want me back, I'll go back. I mean, I guess relief that the drama will stop, you know, I guess obviously. But then I'm hoping I would love to go back. and hopefully that trauma wouldn't be as it was just because, you know, we all had a break and maybe people would change and do the right thing.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And I don't know. Just I will, because, you know, I get, I've gotten, how do you say, the past, you know, since I've been on the show, people think I'm this person from watching me on Red House of New Jersey always defending myself and they think I don't take accountability and blah, blah, blah. and that's like they think they know me but they really don't I mean they're seeing like again a clip it of like the hour show that they're putting out there so I would love for everyone to really get to know the real Teresa because like people that know me actually you know they love me and they're like you're so different than how they show you on on housewives you're kind of grinning when I asked about relief or disappointment I mean you know I have a different answer I'm indifferent and the reason why I'm indifferent would be indifferent because you know Teresa, let's just say, you know, in reality, started the show, right? And, you know, it came to a halt because of a lot of gamifying on the show.
Starting point is 00:40:12 There was a lot of jockeying for positioning. There was a lot of, like, false things said and create narratives. Because as you guys know, like someone could say this today on a Monday, and you can't, it's very hard to change that narrative. So I've been living with this thing, like, he did this, he did. And, you know, that's it. So I'm indifferent because I really wish that, you know, one, she would go on her own terms, too. She would be on a show that wouldn't have to live in, you know, and being in defensive. defense all the time. I don't have you ever watched you. So,
Starting point is 00:40:35 Trees is always defending herself. And, and not that you're always right. You know, and this is what I love. Oh, I know. No, no, this is what I love about you. Because you, you, you, I mean, one of the things I love about you is that you've, you've grown, like, you're not afraid to grow. You've grown so much that you can, you take accountability inside of yourself, which probably would shock everybody, the viewers and the people on the show
Starting point is 00:40:55 because they, you know, they, they, they position you that way. And you're, you're such a, you're, you're like, there's so much of you that people don't get a chance to see, you know, because it's, it's a, you know, it's a reality show. It's about, you know, it's about ratings. It's about all that. But I wanted to say something, you don't mind is that, like, ever since, you know, I've always been an advocate for Teresa and her brother coming together and being, being one, you know. And even after everything, and I've been through a lot, trust me, after everything, and I'm
Starting point is 00:41:26 making this about me, because I'm here just, I love you, I love you, you know, like, you know, this is why I'm with them. This is your deal. I'm just, I never get a chance to say this. And I've never, I've been asked a million times to do podcasts and I'm like, you know, like. Yeah, he's just the first one. It's like, I hate broccoli. So I'm like, I'm going to that shit.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Like he did a podcast with me and, and he would just, we were just talking. And that's what I'm like, I'm just saying. It's like, he doesn't even want. This is the first time he's doing one. That's amazing. That's really funny. I know. We're drinking on a beach in Mikidos and she's like, I want my daughters.
Starting point is 00:41:57 No, no, don't even say it. I'm like, yeah, let them live. We didn't live. Anyway, that was all taken out of complex, but like, I've always, from, from like day one, I've always, I remember when there was every little, little friction with her brother in the beginning, and it's because of a TV show. If it's two families living in regular life, there is not that much function because there's always like jockeying, who's better, who's not, and everybody could say whatever they want to say, but everybody, you know, it's, it's, being famous is like a drug, okay? And it's addicting, and it feels good in the moment, right? But, you know, from day one, I've always, and people think the opposite, I've always wanted you to be with your brother. As hard as it's been, as much stuff as I've been through, as much shit's been said or this or that and all the stuff that's happened.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Like, you know, when she reached out to a brother, I forget where you were when you did that. But, like, I was like, it was like so happy and relieved because, you know, we need him in our lives because life is too short. there's a lot of kids there's four daughters there's three kids over here there's an ex-husband that got deported there's a lot of trauma
Starting point is 00:43:07 a lot of feelings you know like there's a lot of stuff right and and having harmony would be is really the only solution I'm an outsider I've been in Teresa's life
Starting point is 00:43:16 almost six years but like I like I firmly believe in that so you know I welcome him back with open arms without even looking back because you could
Starting point is 00:43:27 again it's like it's life's too short I just found out some shit about my dad like a week ago my dog just died like it was like you know if you have pets it's like you know
Starting point is 00:43:38 and it's just you know I'm 51 years old and as you get older it's like you know you stop blaming you start like you start you stop blaming the you start you stop making excuses
Starting point is 00:43:49 you start like just owning shit you know like and so we live like I've helped you live like that too a little bit because she would walk around like I don't know no no no I know I'd be like, I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:44:03 he'd just hear this or Gia or like, you know. He did make me more calmer because I used to be like hot-headed. Look at this from a different lens, you know? Yeah, he does. He's like, definitely calm me down. Yeah, it's, but it's, again, what makes it even that much,
Starting point is 00:44:15 what creates that storm is, you know, a show and not saying that the show is bad, but instead of having, you know, like, like, don't let, it's like letting outside noise into your relationship. Yeah. It's like, what's I going to do you? You know, like, and, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:27 and, you know, you asked this question before, it's, it's only made a show. stronger. Because as it's tested us, you know, you know, I saw on you two. You would, you would just like, you just lean in, you know, it's like failing forward, right? But like you just go in deeper and deeper. And it wasn't us. It was like the outside noise trying to hurt us. Yeah. And if you can be a team together, which it looks like you have. That is the key to success. This has been wonderful because truly the people of the listeners of this podcast are all looking for what you two have and knowing that it can happen after one or several failed relationships that this is possible
Starting point is 00:45:04 and to hold on and to keep hope alive literally this is a shining example of what is waiting for everyone if they're just willing to look forward and be patient enough yes i mean if you want second time around yeah like put it out there and um it definitely will happen don't get i mean i never knew i didn't think i was going to get married again i swear swear it wasn't even looking and it just happened and you know what because i was happy with myself first that's very important like you have to be happy with yourself be fulfilled with yourself before you could be happy with someone else so i remember i was just like living my life like you know i had the girls and just happy with myself and then bang and then he he showed up i swear like he showed up like i was
Starting point is 00:45:51 walking by people think i like we're like i mean that's exactly i almost almost want to call BS on that story. It's so unbelievable. I believe every word of it and I believe in that. I really do. And that's the thing. Like he wasn't a Jersey short kind of guy. We didn't do anything but like kiss for like four months. People don't believe that either. Yeah. It was like slow. Like I was like, I was like, no. He didn't sleep at my house. I didn't sleep at his house because I had daughters.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I was like, nice. I love that. And his son kept even asking him like, dad, Teresa never slept over, you know? And our first time was like in the city. We stayed here. We got a hotel and I was like, oh, it's going to happen tonight. I was sorry. You feel, I love it. We've said this. DJ told me he loved me before we ever even held hands. Oh, I love that.
Starting point is 00:46:35 You guys are holding hands right now. Oh, yeah, we try to be professional. Yeah, no, I love that. I love, see, I love showing love. Yeah, I love, like, we're both very affectionate. Like, my first husband wasn't, and I was always the affectionate one. And then I'm like, I found my person. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Like, I love being affectionate. Like, that's my thing, you know, and so is hit, you know. And he's, like, so romantic, like, writes me poems. We give each other cards all the time. Like, my first husband never did that. Like, I'm just saying, like, I just love, he's my person. Yeah. Perspective is so everything, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:47:11 And you only gain that through some wisdom that you've earned through experience. So that's what, again, this podcast is all about. Right. And if you're in a marriage that you're not happy, like, you know, you should go be happy, you know, because sometimes, like, maybe the other person is not happy either. Maybe you should say something because you have one life to live and you want to live it the best way you know how and go be happy and be in love and all that. I love it. This is not how this is always turned into a therapy.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Every single podcast we do turns into some type of therapy and we feel better afterwards. But folks, are you ready to find love again? You need some help navigating chapter two call or email us. All the info is in the show notes. You can follow us on socials. Make sure you rate and review the podcast. I do part two. an I-Hard Radio podcast where falling in love is the main objective.
Starting point is 00:48:12 The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years, until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls, came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season, ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight. I pointed the gun at him and said, this isn't a joke.
Starting point is 00:49:00 A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old. And a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? Listen to heavyweight on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B. My marriage, I felt the love dying. I was crying every day.
Starting point is 00:49:34 I felt in the deepest depression that I had ever had. This shit was not given to me. I worked my ass off for me. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF disrupted, the kind body source. story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup.
Starting point is 00:50:03 While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like in the right hand. You're just not. Listen to IvyF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just a dream. It was a battlefield. It's a freaking war zone. These people are animals.
Starting point is 00:50:30 The Model Wars podcast peels back the glossy cover and reveals a high-stakes game where survival meant more than beauty. Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatis, this is the untold story of an industry built a ruthless ambition. Listen to Model Wars on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:50:52 This is an IHeart podcast. Thank you.

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