The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Teresa Giudice’s husband, Louie, Reveals She’s Changed!
Episode Date: October 11, 2025After her dramatic exit from “Special Forces,” Teresa Giudice is giving Amy & TJ the behind-the-scenes info!From the mental aspect of the competition, to being on poop duty - they&rsqu...o;re talking about it all! Louie and Teresa reflect on how she’s changed since this intense experience. Plus, Teresa is telling us what was worse than prison!Email us at: IDOPOD@iheartradio.com or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome, everyone. It's I Do Part 2. I'm Amy Roboc alongside TJ Holmes. Just a couple of your hosts here.
and we are back with some more.
Teresa Judeis and Louis Ruelas
from Real Housewives of New Jersey.
And Teresa is fresh off of the latest season
of Special Forces where Teresa,
you made it to episode two.
Congrats.
Thank you.
Well, that was really not very enthusiastic applause, everybody.
Thank you.
That's hard to do.
Okay, give her credit.
I know.
Listen, if you were there,
then you would see how hard it was.
Like, I'm not kidding.
You don't even see half of, not even a quarter of what we've done.
Yeah, it was intense.
Can we go back to the decision?
What convinced you to do it?
And what was your role, Louis, in that decision?
What convinced me, well, at first they just asked me to do it.
And then I was just like, oh, my God.
And I watched a few episodes.
And I'm like, there's a lot of water.
I don't know how to swim.
I'm going to drown.
I'm like, this is not good.
So I was having, like, I don't know if this is.
I'm going to be able to do this.
And then they came back at it at me.
And they're like, we would like you and Gia to do it, mother-daughter duo.
And then Gia heard.
And she's like, Mom, we have to do this.
It's going to be like, you know, it's like, you know, so fun for us to do it together.
And I was just like, oh, yeah.
I know her.
So no, I was like, you know what?
I have to do this with my daughter.
It's something that she'll never forget.
I'll never forget.
And it's like, you know, it's amazing for us to do this experience, you know, experiences together.
Her sisters were jealous that we were doing it together.
So, and that's why I said, yeah.
Okay.
All I'm hearing is now I don't have not just one loved one going out there and risking health.
I got two loved ones going, Louie.
That's what I'm all I'm hearing when she said that.
Yeah, that's what it did feel like that.
But you know what they have a really amazing bond, G and Teresa, for a long time, obviously.
And it was, you're like, if anybody could do it,
you because you've had challenges
in your life. Like, she's, Teresa, she's strong.
She's...
Teresa's been to prison and
came back like a bigger badass than she already was.
Yeah, my son and I talk about all the time, even
on the way here in the car, because he's like,
Dad, did you see the way Teresa kissed me this morning? Do you remember
that or no? Because you're hugging him and you can
you like that grandma has that big kiss and he's like,
your ears ringing, right? So like, and then
you're, then she's like, you know, like, can move the couch and you get
home and then you come home and the couch is already moved.
It's like, how'd you do that by yourself?
It's like, Teresa is very strong, you know, physically, emotionally, and all her girls are like that, you know.
So, so I wasn't, I wasn't, I was afraid for you, but at the same time, I knew you were going to be amazing.
And why you ended up, you know, what do they call it, dequeuing yourself or, or?
Was it volunteering withdrawal?
Voluntary withdrawal.
VW.
BW.
BW.
Why you did that was like the, was like, was, was, was.
even more powerful.
I don't know if everybody really knows why you did that
and what sparked that and what created that.
But that was like that was something that was, you know,
that you taught a lot of people,
told the whole family, you know, something really important.
That was going to be our next question because,
no, no, but you just led perfectly into it
because, you know, you are so strong in all of the ways
that Louis just mentioned.
And so what was it about that moment?
Was it, did it accumulate?
and that was your breaking point, or was that just a moment, a watershed moment?
Yeah, I mean, like I said, me and Gia, we spoke about a lot of things, you know,
before, you know, when we first got to, we were in Marrakesh in the beginning,
and then we got, went to North Africa.
And then, you know, we just talked about a lot of things.
And as a mom, I'm always a mom first.
So I was thinking in my head, like, you know, it was like, we're going to fight now.
And it's like, of course, I would never, I can never see my daughter get hit.
Like, did you see the first episode?
episode when Billy was grabbing Gia's head and dumping it in the water.
I wasn't there.
When I watched that on TV, I was so angry.
I was like, oh, my God, Billy's lucky I wasn't there because I would have said something.
Like, get off my kid's head like that, like dumping it in the water.
Like, I thought that was so harsh.
And, like, they didn't do that to us.
Like, they didn't do that to me.
They didn't, you know, did you see when I rolled over in the mud?
My hair went down like this so they couldn't see.
that my face didn't go in the mud.
You had a lot of hair.
Yes, yes, yes.
And then I took the mud and I put it on my face.
If they see I don't have mud on my face, they're going to make me do that because they
were doing it to other people.
Oh, my God.
But they didn't do it to me.
Thank God.
But my thing is I didn't, first of all, I would never be able to see my daughter get
hit.
And I didn't want her to see me fighting, like fist fighting because I think it would probably make
her upset too.
And I don't know, there's a lot of things going through my mind, just like that I've been
fighting, you know, defending myself on TV for the past 10 years. That, you know, it was like post-traumatic
stress that came in effect. It was just a lot of things that came into play. But are you surprised
this was something that got the type of criticism that it did. Well, people are thinking how you
left the show in some way as a problem. I mean, listen, you're going to have like a lot of people.
That's nothing. I was like, this is light. It's light work.
No, like the whole cast were telling, they all were saying, like, they knew why I left.
They thought, you know, they, obviously, the first thing they said, they're like, as a mom would never be able to see her child get hit.
So the whole cast was saying that.
And then even the, because they make you speak to a psychologist every time, you know, you always speak to a psychologist because that's how intense it is.
And even the psychologist totally got me, you know, keep watching the show.
there's it's pretty amazing
I can't say
I'll say it at the end
but Gia obviously continued
and you left
did you all have a chance
to say goodbye
no because it shows you just leave it
so you didn't even get to say goodbye
to her
I did not get to say goodbye to her
I cried that whole night
in the hotel
I cried
going home in the airport
you know
because it was a decision
I had to make
and I know in my heart to heart
that's why at the end
I'll give you know
the whole show is over
I'll give another interview.
And there's, like, more to come.
But I know, I mean, I cried even when I came home, like, cried till Gia got home.
And he was like, you came home different, he said to me, because I was really upset.
But there was a, it was a decision I had to make, you know, and Gia understood why I did it, you know.
But you couldn't explain it to her in the moment.
I couldn't.
That's got to be so hard.
And you couldn't communicate with her.
Yeah, no.
No, no, you can, like, that show, no producers come in while you're working.
Like everyone, that one, because, like, you know, with Housewives, they come in,
this show, they, you don't see producers, when you see them in the beginning,
and then at the end, they don't ever come in between.
So you feel like you're in actual boot camp.
Oh, my God.
It was going to Special Forces was worse in prison.
Yeah, it was worst in prison.
Yeah, and like that, it's like totally post-traumatic stress for me.
Yeah, it was worse.
It was worse than prison.
Well, you had to know you were in pretty good shape to even agree to go on to it, right?
I work out all the time.
I'm really strong.
I'm really strong.
But it's like, but that was a different strong.
What was the hard?
Like, for me, the airplane underwater challenge, that would have been like, and we're done.
And especially when you saw Eva, right, right before you.
Oh, my God.
Right before.
She was unconscious.
So then you had to go next.
What was going to be here?
I mean, I tried to stay.
I tried. Oh, I got swimming lessons before I went.
If you check out Gia's TikTok, she posts my swimming lessons.
Okay.
But still a new swimmer.
That's still very scary.
No, trust me.
And I try, you see, I was pretty calm.
I tried to stay calm because I was like, I have to stay calm for Gia too because I don't
want to get Gia, like, you know, nervous.
Because, you know, I'm sure she was nervous for me because she knows I can't swim.
But she knew I took swimming lessons before.
So I did feel comfortable.
And so I just tried to stay calm.
And now it's over 100 degrees out.
So you have all those clothes.
And then all of a sudden, when the water starts coming up, it's freezing cold.
So I'm like trying to stay calm.
So I stayed calm until the water came up to here.
And then I panicked.
And that's what I do.
If I'm in the water and I don't touch the ground, I panic.
I get that.
I was just, I panicked.
I tried to stay calm as much as I could.
And then I panicked at the end.
But thank God I didn't drink any water
because they said to us, I had to get all these shots
both of us, she and I.
Everybody had to get shots before going to Africa
because they said, don't drink the water.
The monkeys piss and poop in the water.
And they're like, if you drink the water,
you can get really sick.
And I was like, oh, this is the first time I'm saying this.
Thank God I didn't drink any water.
I made sure I held my breath
and I didn't drink any water.
All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie.
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Had the fighting thing not happened, how long do you think you could have lasted?
Yeah, I would have stayed longer if the fighting thing didn't, they should have made that a little later.
Because, like, as a mom, just because of what G and I talked about and everything, and I was just like, yeah, that's why I, I volunteer with true.
Otherwise, I would have been there longer.
But given what you were experiencing, do you think you could have, you were tough enough to hang in there possibly to the end?
I mean, I don't know if I would have made it to the end, but like, I'm pretty, I'm pretty strong.
You were locked in. You're ready.
I wouldn't put my bet on you.
Yeah, and not only that, it's mentally, it's mental and physical.
You've been through all of that.
And like the mental part, I totally got it.
It was like the physical part there was like, oh, did you see those stairs?
Yes.
Oh, yes.
You're talking about those stairs.
Oh, my God.
And Billy pushed me to go, like, and finish those stairs.
But those stairs were, oh, my God, it was intense.
I was like, and then carrying, I'm not kidding, guys, 30 pounds on my back.
Yeah.
Like, that was, and I thought on, like, I worked out this morning with my trainer.
And I have to say, coming back, I feel stronger than before.
That's cool.
Yeah, I do, because even my trainer, she's like, you know, then I told her.
Oh, I lost weight there, but not that.
Gia lost more weight than me, yeah, but.
But you've said the whole cast because of perhaps this collective torture that you all were going through have truly bonded.
Like, you have a group chat, y'all are all.
texting one another.
Yeah, like Brando Cobb, he's like, he mentioned the other day.
He's like, he's like, they don't even show half the shit we went through.
Or like, you know, even a little bit.
Like, we went through like so much, because it's only an hour episode.
So they can't.
It should be, instead of 10 episodes, it should kind of be 20 episodes.
How much shooting during the day to get one hour?
Even the producer called me yesterday.
And she's like, so how did, you know, she's like, what do you think of the show?
Because I see, you know, I get along with everyone, like, you know, off my cast.
Now again, you know what I mean?
She called me.
She's like, how you doing?
And she was just reaching out.
And she's like, you guys were shooting, this is what she told me, 20 hours a day.
Because they woke us up.
We thought we were going to sleep the first night.
They woke us up and we had to do burpees.
Like, we jumped in the pool, you know, jump in that tub, whatever it was.
The ice sun.
Huh?
Ice set?
Yeah.
Like the plunge, yeah, the ice plunge.
jump in that and then do burpees like lunges like lifting stop i was like oh my god
then they wake you up early in the morning like it was like i was i felt like i was in the
army i was like that's what they want you to feel right louis if they had couples on the show
they've had married couples on the show if asked would you have done it would you do it
i would have done it with you yeah yeah it's a good test you know but he doesn't like the
more the deep ocean either deep ocean yeah yeah well
Well, you learned how to swim.
And you, and Louie has done things like this.
Yeah.
He's done in California, like men's retreats.
Oh, okay.
So he's like used to that.
Okay.
Test yourself.
Yeah.
I don't know about these men's retreats where you test yourself.
What are these?
They're like quasi-navies seal programs.
Wow.
Where they'll go and they'll break you down as a guy, you know, and builds you back up.
And you could kind of see, you know, where you're short.
falling in life without enlisting exactly exactly I don't know why you would want to go
through that torture pay all that money like that was a guy he was doing that back then
how was the food I'm curious the food was not bad because I'm I did a fitness competition
so I'm like used to eating clean food it was just very clean it was like baked chicken
but like like not even baked like no breadcrumbs are like baked in the oven very
clean potatoes very simple and that's what i pretty much remember because i was only there two days
so like um yeah no but it was like very clean very clean food what was the reunion like with your
daughter when you finally got back together or even talked for the first time were you trying to
apologize was she annoyed at all it was all it was all good she totally got it she knew she already
my kid my my kid i'm very close to all my my four daughters like and like they we totally understand
each other. Yeah, because
they kept saying to her, you know,
your mom's holding you back. And she's like,
no, she's not. My mom's not holding me back.
And I know I wasn't holding my child
back. So, you know, we were
good, you know. So, yeah,
because that's what they were saying. They were telling
her that. They're like, your mom, you know, she's like, no,
my mom's not holding me back, you know.
And when the show started, last thing for me here,
when it started, and you can answer this too,
when you saw who the competition was,
did you already figure out
that person's going to be a problem,
That one's strong.
Don't have to worry about,
did you already see
and who did you think
we're going to be the toughest ones?
Yeah, you know what?
Luckily, our cast, we were so amazing.
Like, everybody was great.
Like, our whole cast,
everybody was helping each other.
And the men were gentlemen.
Like, if we, like, going up the hill,
carrying those things,
like, they would help us.
Like, if we had our backpack,
like, just, like, lift up my backpack
and help me up to, like, Nick,
me and Nick Young,
we were at the end,
like running the two of us
like he was like my
like he was my buddy
because we were like
everybody else was in front of us
me and him we were like
trying to catch up
but I have to say
all the guys were gentlemen
helping the women
and like nobody
like the women
nobody was bitchy
or anything like that
we all were like a team
like you know in the army
like everybody's supposed
to help each other
that's how we were
it's cool to hear
that the experience
is very much like
what you would get
it's not about the TV
and the production value
it's truly about
about actually having this unique experience.
Yeah, and like helping each other.
Like that's like a bonding experience.
Like not just worrying about yourself.
Like, because that's, everyone called me like a,
I was like the mama bear, you know, like, you know,
looking at, you know, asking everybody if they're okay.
Wiping the dirt off like just, you know, their face.
You know, I don't know if you saw that, like off a, you know.
Or the poopies comment.
Oh, yeah.
Any of all do poopie in here, just let me know and I'll come clean it up.
Yeah.
I know Jesse Mullet was like loved that he was on Jesus.
podcast and he said he loved when I said that.
He thought that was so funny.
But I was just like, because I was on bathroom duty and I was like, it was the best day
to be on bathroom duty because nobody goes to the bathroom the first day.
That's so fun.
You were smart, right?
Everyone said that to me.
I'm like, they're like, you're so lucky you get it the first day.
And then I was like, so I didn't know if they were watching me.
So I ended up using all the cleaning supplies because all I did was pour it in there, so it smelled
good.
I was like, I didn't know if they were looking at me cleaning.
So I wanted to make sure I did my job.
Yeah.
Like I follow rules.
Yeah.
All right.
Last question for me.
You went out after two days.
If they asked you or you both to go back, would you do it again, Teresa?
Yes.
I would do it again.
Yeah.
I would do it again.
That's very cool.
Redemption.
And I could see a couple's edition.
Yeah.
I would do it again.
Huh?
You would?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Well, Teresa.
Oh, my goodness.
And Louie, thank you so much for being with us.
This has been a.
Well, just a blast, actually.
We could keep talking.
We were just saying for hours, and this would continue.
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The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years,
until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
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In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.
Had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it.
Five, six white people pushed me in the car. I'm going, what the hell?
Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin.
All you got to do is receive the package. Don't have to open it, just accept it.
She was very upset, crying.
Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw the flash of light.
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Welcome to Decoding Women's Health.
I'm Dr. Elizabeth Pointer, chair of Women's Health and Gynecology at the Atria Health Institute in New York City.
I'll be talking to top researchers and clinicians and bringing vital information about midlife women's health directly to you.
100% of women go through menopause.
Even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it?
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