The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - The Bachelor of Paradise

Episode Date: November 10, 2023

Ben and Ashley are recapping this week’s episode of Bachelor in Paradise! We’re still trying to piece things together because we feel like we’re not getting the WHOLE story this season. Ben and Ashley bond over their fandom of Olivia, who is deserving of most of the screentime. And we have a bold prediction about what will finally happen between Katie and Blake!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We are here just ready to dive in. Ashley, I will describe this episode in my opinion as less chaos. It was not so confusing to me. This actually felt like a very like old school paradise episode to me. Well put. There was nothing that left me going, hmm, except, okay, there's one thing. Tanner giving Rachel the rose was a hmm for me just because he had that amazing date. Davia or so he's had. Yeah, this, okay, I would, I would agree with you. For the most part, this episode felt very straightforward.

And sometimes those, hmm, moments are really good in paradise because they keep us wondering and questioning. The problem I think that we've seen so far this season is the storytelling doesn't feel complete because we don't know where Davia and Tanner went wrong. They were very strong. He was very okay dropping cat. Maybe he just wanted to drop cat. it could be but i just wish we knew why that that relationship did not flourish yeah

totally agree yeah totally agree and like it really started all the girls who came in last week ended up leaving so it was like why do we even have last week yeah and then we never got the storylines of why those relationships that felt so beautiful and romantic and perfect uh during their dates why they didn't stay together through this week like yeah like Blake look Blake who had a great date with Genevievee Jess was like nope Jess let's do this and Jess is making out with Tyler we don't know where that goes because he's back in Mercedes he just we don't address it just he made out with Jess and then but Mercedes is his girl so uh I don't know I just feel like we're we're getting incomplete stories and that doesn't feel good for me because I'm having to make a lot of

assumptions. And I, you know, when I make assumptions, uh, they typically aren't right. And so I don't know what's happening. Anyway, so let's start at the beginning of this episode. Uh, we do come off of last week's episode, uh, I think intrigued at what relationships would stay together. We had talked during last week's episode that it felt like most of these relationships were not strong. In fact, we couldn't really name one that we were that confident would be together at the end. Charity lossing does come down to the beach. And that's when she brings up. the Aaron B situation with Eliza. Eliza is shooken by the news.

And Aaron B is confused and he gives a very poor explanation for how this whole thing went down. So we are left going, there's no way this continues. Like it just feels like it's on a dead end. However, we do see and we pick up this storyline at the first of the episode. And it all kind of just. It becomes not a big deal because then they kind of admit that we don't know the whole story. We only have DMs from this girl. She's a, quote, disgruntled X.

Yeah. And we can only, you know, we have two sides of the story here. And we only know one of these people, and that is Aaron. So eventually it seems like Charity and Eliza both kind of say, okay, if this is what, you're saying then we're going to choose to believe you but eliza does say like all right i'm choosing to believe you but i'm also still very nervous and i'm far more less i'm far less confident um comfortable than i was before knowing this because there is like a little bit of a red flag well here's my question um i have always thought charity was amazing yeah well obviously we love her

Yeah. She showed great judgment. She was consistent. She was clear and concise. My question with this is not a criticism as much it is me wondering. If you get home from a season and somebody has messaged you and your family and your friends and has taken the time to research who your family and your friends are and they've sent you 20 messages and all these things that Charity is explaining to Eliza and Aaron. yeah why in the world would you not go this feels like a red flag like it feels like this person is out to get Aaron and it doesn't feel um like they're like clear of mind it feels very disgruntled and angry oh that's a good point and so why would she be bringing it up to cat or whoever else because to me it just feels like yeah this person is out for attention maybe uh definitely showing signs of being out for attention or out for some like reassure insurance, but it does feel very disgruntled and a tag chaotic. And so why would Charity say, yeah, you just need to watch out for Aaron B.

Yeah, why would she say anything? I don't know. Because you know what? Even if Charity is wonderful, all of us do love a little drama. Well, I'm sure it's human instinct. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but it does, I think at that point, once Charity fully explained what happened, I was like, I don't know if I could take, I don't know if I could take much.

substance from it? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if I could take much substance from like what she was saying. I just feel like I would probably not dismiss her claims necessarily, but I'd be a lot more confused if she was messaging my family and friends. I'd be like, hey, back back that a little bit. Like, you're not going to get the attention to maybe need. Yeah, messaging family and friends is pretty weird. It's a little different.

Because it's not like charity ended up with him. I want to know the dates of these messages. if the guy was if it was just like wall there she said that the phone was away when she was getting these messages yeah if she yeah so knows but like if she ended up with him then i could maybe see trying to reach out a ton afterward and be like yo you're you're with somebody who's not who they say they are but just as just him being on the show seems like a disgruntled ex type thing sure and i mean if it was over and she was upset because it was over. Again, we kind of both agreed last week that as long as the relationship

was over, he can go on the show. I mean, he's not doing anything wrong. If they were still together anyone on the show, that's a problem. It's a little weird, a lot of weird. Yeah. But, you know, I don't think there's anything to be upset with him about. If he went on the show to date charity and they ended their relationship beforehand, I don't really care if they were dating up until the day. Like, he made a decision to leave. You're very good with that, but I don't know. That seems a little tacky. a little tacky, sure. I mean, probably not the way I would go about it. But again, he made the decision to leave.

And at that point, if you're dating, you can just pretty much consider, hey, you broke up. Like, if somebody did that to me, what I would be saying was, I'm really upset. I think this is a really mean thing to do to me. However, we're done.

Like, we are moving on. I'm hurt. I'm, you know, confused. I don't know why our relationship ended like this or that we had no substance in this relationship to build on. But they're gone and they're gone. went on this show and they're trying to date this, you know, really like cool lead. And I would say, it's over. Um, I am moving on with my life and they should too. So it feels weird then for me to

like message the lead and be like, hey, we were dating at one point, maybe like a month before the show. And they, you know, he told me he loved me and all that. This feels odd. Well, Eliza and Aaron B, you know, you know, kind of clear things up and they're back together. And he's trying hard. You can tell, um, to, to build this relationship to a place that it was. was before. Because I definitely don't get the sense that it is at a place that it once was maybe three days ago. Yeah, she does say, like, let's sleep on this. But then, like, we watch the rest of the episode, like, she sleeps on it. She's still, like, with him. Hi, my name is Enya Emanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency

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Olivia is, she's like, she has more friend vibes when it comes to John Henry. And then, like, cats going around yelling, I need a tongue in my mouth. So, like, if you're in paradise and you're a guy and you're not exactly, he doesn't seem to be, like, looking for the love of his life. That's just the vibes that he puts out. And I think that it's probably, he's just going to want to have a good time with Kat. Olivia is like, I really like you. I don't think John Henry knows what in the world he's thinking. He's a little spacey, right?

Yeah, I think he's just like, you know, shiny new thing. He's not. yeah he's not i don't think i mean he's definitely intelligent but i think when it comes to dating and to like all this stuff moving around him so fast and all these voices in his head i think he's like oh okay cool this this works right like we're i'm good with this um because even when he talks to olivia and tries to clean things up he he's a very sweet man he feels bad uh he feels guilty he is like yeah she you know cat's cat just wants me make out with her and that sounds fun right now. I don't think he's doing this necessarily to hurt anybody or hurt himself. I am still very

concerned that I was really hoping, I don't know if this is evil of me, actually. I was really hoping in this episode some like new, really attractive dude walks down the beach and cats like, okay, I'm going after him. I just was like, come up. Because you wanted to see her flip flop again? Yeah, I kind of did. Is that weird? No, it's fine. It's fun to watch. She's wild TV, and so is Olivia. So that's why it's kind of fun to have them pair it against each other because they just are the best when it comes to shit talking. Yeah, they're really good at it.

Well, I would say Kat is not very good at it. But she's down to do it. She's down to scream about this. Yeah, like she's not like making great like points and she's not closing out arguments and she's not like putting somebody in their place. She's just down to like be really confident in like her opinion. and it's hard to argue with when you're like,

you know, you can't argue with that kind of stuff because it makes no sense what she's saying. And I think she, at some point, she has to admit. And she hasn't yet. And it's wild to me. She has to admit that she's just down to disrupt and cause chaos and that she has flip-flopped and that she is just like,

really like okay with other people being upset with her. She won't admit it yet on the show. But she has to admit that, like the theme, has to show that she is doing this. Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. Let's get to the cocktail party where we first get news

that this is so embarrassing that Sam has finally pooped. Good for her. I'm glad. That's it. I'm sorry. This is like a week later and I know that they dragged this out and that she had pooped prior to this moment. Yeah, if it went two full weeks post.

Like after. Like there's no way. Like at this point, I'm, and I said it last time, like, I'm done talking about it. It's stupid. You know, I feel bad for the girl. That's so bad. She has to make jokes about it. It's just, you know, if we have like people, you know, really popular people from the franchise who are known for something. This is what she's going to be known for. And that's just sad to me. But good for. Congratulations. Everybody claps. Everybody's like, yeah, that makes sense. We're glad it happened. She went home to do that. We move on. Okay. We move on to Jess and Blake. And like we said, at the top. of the show, we are wondering what happened with their respective relationships last week, the Genevievee date and the kiss with Tyler. Just like it's all in now on Blake and they kind of make it official at this cocktail party that they are in this together, which of course, lo and behold, Katie will walk down

next week, which we've been waiting for for freaking weeks. I think it's going to shake them up, but I don't think it's going to do anything. serious. No, I mean, I think the teaser is about as dramatics is going to get. I mean, I think Katie probably comes down. I don't think yet she's there a date. She doesn't have a date card in her hand. She did a great job convincing us that she was going to date. Why did she go then? What would be the point? Just to shake it up? Just to freak him out, I guess.

That seems weird. Maybe. But it does feel like Blake and Jess kind of have that moment of clarity of No, this is really good. She says, like, I miss you touching me. I miss you holding me. And then they kiss. And he's like, let's, I'm in for this thing now. Like, they probably needed this to get to where they're at now.

I'm actually not going to be shocked if they end up together. Well, they're not going to get engaged. But I feel like it could be one. No, but it could be one of those relationships where, yeah, I would like to. Do you want to do $100? No, goodness. I don't know, $100. I was thinking like a dollar.

Wow, Ash. I have to buy a new truck. Let's make it a little more fun. Let's calm down a bit. I'm hurting these days. Fishy? Well, we'll see. We'll put a bed.

Okay, he doesn't want to put a bet on it. Well, we'll bet. Oh, you know what? We can bed a massage. Is that the weirdest thing ever? A shoulder from next time I see you? I'm good with that. I love that.

I'm going to win this. It's very, very strange of us. We have, you guys, you wouldn't understand. Ben goes around and massages everybody's shoulders every time he sees them. I'm surprised I didn't see you rubbing shoulders this week. It's my way of giving a hug. yeah it's so sweet he's the best at it like the absolute best yeah it's just my way of giving a hug so you think that jess and blake will get engaged okay good for you so yeah um so we see them kind of come back together

uh obviously that leaves jenev in a very uh bad predicament because it's so late in the night and she hasn't really focused on anybody else and she's just brand new to the beach and there isn't really that many options available to end up with um you know so anyways. Can we talk about Tanner and his kissing and how Tanner kissed three girls? Wait, was it three or four? He ends up kissing. He's the one that wants a tongue in his mouth. Yeah. Okay. So he kisses Rachel because she ends up getting his rose. And I was like, okay, maybe I can feel this. But he also kisses Davia. And he says that that kiss that he had with her was the most passionate he's ever had. But that doesn't go give her the rose. So Tanner is definitely the Bachelor of Paradise right now.

I do want to know what happens to his relationship. He goes on a beautiful date with Davia. And it feels like those two are a couple. And yet then all of a sudden they're not a couple. And she doesn't seem that upset or confused by it. I know. I would be mad. So mad.

Very weird. Very weird. And then Olivia and John Henry have a conversation where basically she says, like, I can't stand cat. And then he's trying to like break the news gently to her that like, that's on fortunate because I really like that. I mean, here's a deal. He's like, oh, I'm so sorry about that. It's going to make it worse that I'm going to give you her the rose.

Yeah, he's just, I mean, this poor dude is going to, I mean, he is getting torn up in the cyclone that is paradise. He is getting spun around in circles. He's going to get spit out in the most unopportune place. And here's the other thing. I would agree with you. earlier, Ashley, if you're like, he's just there to have a good time. I don't think he is. Really? Why does he feel like to a surfer, bro, who's just like down to have fun?

Because he says the words to cap. I could see us being together after this. Do you feel that too? It's a weird couple. We all know they're not going to be. We're not going to be together, but I think he's in it. Like I think he is infatuated with something that she's doing. I think she has him wrapped up and he is going to get spit out. I don't know when or how. But I mean, I'm only basing this on the fact that the trends so far is these dudes get wrapped up and spit out and then they're on the beach, either crying or angry. And then she's moved on and they're like lost little puppies.

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because i can do that i can provide i can provide that i got you want to you you want to see my piercing oh that's right she was so into his tongue piercing i just it's it's why i kind of like hope that these two make it into a fantasy so it just so that we can like get all the endo no. Anyway, the other weird thing that happens at the rose ceremony is that right when they're about to start, Becca, who Braden went on the date with last week, is nowhere to be found. That's such a weird scene. We started this episode being like, this episode wasn't confusing at all. And now we're realizing super confusing. Why? It still wasn't confusing to me because the relationships on the beach had like a little clearer, like, vision.

to them like we knew kind of the relationships and where they're going for the most part other than maybe tanner and davia yeah so the overall episode i didn't leave being like i feel like there was a lot there i don't understand yeah um this was just a weird scene for me on we don't have any context she's just gone it's like seriously so weird nobody's talking for a while like brains like i don't know what's going on either like what like what happened here they say producers don't know where she went, which is also, I don't believe that. And we really just, all that happens is that Jesse comes down and it's like Becca left paradise. She said that she's afraid. The only thing we get is like one little soundby that says she's afraid it's not

real with Braden. It's like, okay, well, there's other people that are definitely open and there's other people that are going to come down. I don't know. Maybe she was scared she was going to get villainized. well how about you stick around long enough to figure out if it's real or not like i don't know there's no pressure here you're on a but i was excited because i thought that that maybe rachel and bradden to get back together i mean yes it's going to make it feel like rachel's second place did you think that without brayden having becka to give the rose to that he was going to give it to rachel were you surprised that it ended up go her rose came from tanner and that bradden's rose ended up going to Olivia. Did you foresee this? Because in my head, I was thinking that Tanner was probably

going to pick Davia and then the Braden gross would go to Rachel. Yes and no. I think actually we didn't get the full scene where Tanner leans down to Braden. He goes, who's, like, who are you giving your rose to now? Oh, I don't know. I bet after like, I bet like they kind of cut there. Yeah. I bet Braden was like, honestly, I'll probably give it to Olivia because like she deserves to be around or, you know, and Tanner's like, well, I'm going to give it to Rachel. and then they're all here, and we can figure this out later. I think there was probably some gaming and scheming.

Okay, so yeah, I just don't think we saw that. But it was a weird scene, and I felt like Becca was really excited to be there because she didn't get a long period of time on her season, obviously, of The Bachelor. And so it just, you know, in past seasons, we have seen the struggle emotionally and mentally for people who are on Paradise. Like, I don't know if I like being here.

I feel very overwhelmed. here. I kind of want to go home. I don't think this is the place for me. We don't see any of that with Becca. In fact, we don't really see Becca other than this date with Brayden. And then all of a sudden they're like, where's Becca? My first question was, who's Becca? I don't know who Becca is. I know. I forgot about her for a second too. Because we just haven't seen it. And then she's gone. Yeah. Which, um, I don't want to add in that maybe possibly the show is like, we need to figure out a way to keep Olivia around for next week. And this is, yeah, they definitely need to keep Olivia around somehow. Yeah, but

Becca's gone, long story short. They're like, guess what? Producers don't know where you are. Producers are there saying, you got to leave because we need Olivia to stick around. Yeah, you and Braden aren't going to work out. He's, yeah. Anyway, so she's gone, which means Braden now gives his rose to Olivia, which means Olivia is able to stay for one more week. And we're all very excited about that because honestly, I don't know what this show is this year. Because Ben freaking loves her. She's so freaking she is like she delivers she delivers the most she's ever delivered for me personally when michael walks down the stairs because she goes from being sad because she has this disappointing

conversation the next day after the rose ceremony with uh john henry where he was like hey i feel guilty and she's like okay thanks for talking to me i hope it makes you feel less guilty uh go ahead back over to cat and then all of a sudden this guy michael comes down and she is like that michael is a good-looking man. Yes, girl. She won 80s. She's not going to get the road. She's not going to get the date card.

You know this. They leave us on this cliffhanger. Who's Michael going to give the date card to? And you just know it's not going to be her. Who's a good one? Who else would say yes? Rachel, maybe? I don't know.

He did pull over Mercedes, which he's not going to, Mercedes isn't going to go because Tyler says that they're like all in. They can all see a future with each other. But I'm also like, Tyler, when are you going to tell me? Mercedes that you made out with Jess. He probably has. We just haven't seen it. Again, I feel like there's a lot we're not seeing. I just don't know what the show would be this year without Olivia.

I feel like we she, if you looked at like, like Bachelor data and you saw screen time, it would be like Kat and Olivia 70% of the screen time. And the rest of them like 30% kind of like when they're on a date. But the rest of the time is just the two of them either doing the ITMs or trying to figure out who they're going to date. I think Olivia has made great television. I don't know Olivia personally but she is

Can you wait until she comes on the pod? Oh, I cannot wait. It's going to be so fun. I'm going to just, I just want her to talk. I just want to listen and laugh and just be like, you say the most wildly ridiculous funny things

and all of it somehow makes sense and I don't know how you do it. Ben, we should have her be our official fill in her. Like whenever one of us can't do the podcast, we should always have Olivia on speed dial. Yeah, because you know she was not afraid to say some stuff during headlines.

either. Oh, no, no, no. No, no. So Michael does come down to the beach. He is the newcomer. He's an attractive man with great dimples. There's not a lot of, yeah, there's not a lot of single people on the beach. It is kind of up to like Olivia and Rachel on who maybe would be interested.

I feel like at this point going on a date. I think everybody else for the most part has at this point in the season said, no, let's either, let's give this a go with the person I'm with. or if this doesn't work, I'm probably done here. So, yeah, they can tease us. I do think Olivia goes on this date because I just don't see. He never pulled Rachel. We never saw it.

And so if he asks Rachel. No, but he pulled Mercedes. Yeah, but I mean, I think, I don't think Mercedes goes. I don't think Kylie will go with him who we saw him pull as well. Oh, it was Kylie who was pulled. Both. They were both pulled. Oh, yeah.

Okay. Well. And so I just don't think either of them are going on a date. And so, you know, the only other person, we saw him talk to is Olivia. So if he pulls anybody other than Olivia, it's going to be very confusing for the audience because we're like, so you talk to three girls and you didn't like any of them. And so you're just going with the next best option. Yeah. And you wanted to take one that wasn't available. All right. Hopefully Olivia gets the date. The other big tease that we have for next

week is the fact that Katie comes down. And we did touch on it recently. But she says something to Blake that is heavy or so it seems when clipped up the way we see it. She goes, if I could go back and redo it all, I would. I think my theory is that she feels really guilty about how things ended and I don't think it was the happiest of splits. I think that there's rumors that like she kind of blindsided him, that their breakup was when they were away from each other. Maybe he was in Africa.

Maybe I'm making things up. But I think that what she's going to go and redo is just like the ending of their relationship and she feels bad. And it's the first time they're talking in two years. I'd love to see it. I'm kind of in this season of life where I just love breakups rekindling and getting in a good in a good place. I'm a big fan of watching them happen right in front of my eyes.

It's great. It's really fun. Hey, we still haven't seen Ashley. It's kind of been like disappeared. We still have a wedding supposedly in paradise. Do we have any better idea of who this is going to be? I know. No.

It was teased. Like who are these people? like a random wedding now or the longest season so like we might have we have we have weeks left i feel i feel like we have at least three weeks left of show so who knows how these things might evolve and who knows maybe just a random ass wedding on the beach and they all stumble across it i know it's going to be like with that prom date you know it's like they're at vendanta and it's like oh my god a wedding let's all go imagine getting married to you right next to me? Yeah, I think it's that. I mean, there are rumors that it was Gary, but I'm like,

Gary's season hadn't even filmed yet. So it's not Gary. Um, yeah. Yeah, like it was after like this Faradest filmed a long time ago. So who knows. Anyways, we'll be back next week with another breakdown of Bachelor in Paradise. Hey, this week we have some really cool stuff. We had Rodney Matthews join us for headlines. And we also did an in-depth with Rodney. We're going to still do the Golden Bachelor breakdown. So it's a big week of podcast, but also a really great week of podcast. Rodney, opens up about his new relationship. And so the big question there that I think everyone's answer is, is it the real deal or not?

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