The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - The Bachelorette vs The Housewife

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

What happens when you get divorced and start over? You GLOW! Former Bachelorette DeAnna Stagliano gets into a deep game of questions with Kelly Bensimon that forces the ladies to answer tough hypothet...icals!Is it OK to be friends with an ex if you don't have children with them? Is being a mama's boy actually a red flag in disguise? Both women aren't holding back and talking candidly about what they are looking for in this chapter of their lives, along with the silver linings they've found since their divorces.Email us at: IDOPOD@iheartradio.com or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Will Ferdell from PodMeets World. We are back in Las Vegas and giving the people what they want, a full week of Y2K content. Tell me why. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course.
Starting point is 00:00:54 We joke and say this is our second marriage, but it takes a lot of communication. Plus, it's carrot top, baby. And finally, Ashley Simpson-Ross joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. Listen to PodMeets World on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA.
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Starting point is 00:02:45 app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to ID Part 2 on one of your celebrity mentors, Kelly Benson. I'm coming to you from Beautiful Lake Tahoe. I'm thrilled to be joined by one of my friends and repeat guests. You know her from The Bachelorette. It's Diana Sagliano. I love you. I was thinking of your name.
Starting point is 00:03:19 It's like Diana. And like a song. I don't know if there's a song. So we're podcasting from the Verbo summer house in Lake Tahoe. Procrastinators rejoice the early bird is not the only one who gets the worm. Verbo offers last minute deals for private vacation rentals. Verbo's last minute deals are live on the Verbo app and website, showing travelers at nearly 300,000 discounted properties they can book with 30 days of check-in.
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Starting point is 00:04:36 Oh my gosh. God. Okay. So we are, we're here in Lake Tahoe by the Pickaball event. It's been a ton of fun so far. Do you play Pickable in your free time? I did today. You're amazing, by the way. I don't know if you saw me, but I did. I was, I did really well. You had some really stellar moves. I'm not going to lie. The dance moves were amazing. Listen, Kelly. Foot with a hair. I have to admit, at one point, I looked at you. from across the court and her, your hair is down, you're not sweating a drop and you just
Starting point is 00:05:17 got those legs for days and you've got your paddle. And I thought, she's a, she's a vision of beauty on the pickleball court. You're not sweating an ounce. Do you not sweat? Um, I glow. You were glowing, ma'am. You were glowing. You, you didn't have a, and you kept your hair down the whole time.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I know. I have to. Is this all yours? It is. But I have, I'm psoriasis, so I don't like to, like, show it off. With your hair? No, I have psoriasis. It's on my skin.
Starting point is 00:05:49 So that's why I always wear my hair down because it's, like, in my back. And, like, I even got it in my eye today. So I'm like, okay, I'll just like to deal with it. Well, you have the most beautiful hair. Thank you. And you played pickleball like a champ today with your hair down the entire day. You had some really good, really, really good shots. I was super impressed.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Thank you. At first you were like, I don't know what I'm doing. I'm like, no, no, no, you do. You can do this. I'm rather athletic. I'm rather athletic. Thank you, Kelly. I know.
Starting point is 00:06:13 You are. I feel like we should be friends. Thank you. We are. Making me feel so good about myself today. We are friends. Yes. Today was my first time playing pickleball.
Starting point is 00:06:26 It was my first go at it. And if I'm being honest, I dominated on the court. My team did not win, but I'm going to blame that on Ben Higgins. It's his fault. Absolutely. And he's not here to defend himself. so you were with ben i was with gary we had like really good teammates and we did really well i also just think we look really good the four of us yes like just as a whole when you put us next to each other
Starting point is 00:06:50 all four of us you're like optically it looks really good very pleasing to the eye aesthetically aesthetically pleasing and we were we were really good yeah we were really good and we had so much fun so much fun yeah but like ben was trying to get the tea from you he's like What's going on in your life? And I'm like, no, no, no, not now. We're playing pickleball. I asked Ben to present me with options, and he came alone. That's it?
Starting point is 00:07:17 That's it. He didn't bring a friend. He didn't bring a friend. I don't know if you know this, but he's married and he's with child. Yes, I know. Yeah. What was Ben thinking? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:26 We could just spend our friendship, just being friends and talking about me dating. So we are talking about dating and love the second time around. If you, if a guy asked you to play pickleball on the first date, What would you think? I mean, after today, it's a solid, yes, for me. But you were great, and you look really good. God, Kelly. And you're flipping your hair on and looks good.
Starting point is 00:07:45 You just made me feel so good about myself. I don't think maybe at this point, I don't need a man. I'd be like, you don't need that. That's not good. That was not good. I would have to say pickleball would be a solid first date. Like, I'm not, I'm at that age where, like, I don't want to go to the bars. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Please don't take me out drinking. I just don't want to do that. I don't want to watch you play other sports. Right. But, like, take me to play pickleball. I've got a cute skirt and a shirt. Right. I stole my pickle bowl paddle from the court.
Starting point is 00:08:13 No, you have that. I'm a shoe in. Just take me. Plus, it's a game where you can, like, talk to people and you can have fun. You don't feel like you're, like, stressed and you're not, like, you're not sweating. It's actually a fun thing to do. Some of us sweat, Kelly. You do not, but some of us perspire.
Starting point is 00:08:33 That's what we do is laugh. All we just do is laugh. Oh, my God. I'm like, we had to do. so much fun. We did have so much fun. It was so great. So we're going to play 21 questions in your I do part two chapter. So number one, you ready? Yeah. If you ask a man out on the first date, is it ever acceptable to split the bill? Okay, well, I'm not asking a man out on a date. I'm just not. If we're all being honest here, a bunch of girls here, I'm not. I'm just not. So for all of my
Starting point is 00:09:06 future husbands listening, don't wait for me to make the first move. I'm not going to do it. Right. Secondly, I'm not splitting the bill on our first date. I'm just not. Chivalry is not dead. I totally agree. I don't mind at some point footing the bill for dinners here and there. Right. But like, I'm choosing a man because I'd like for them to be a man. And I think there's something really wonderful about them asking me out, making plans. I've made a lot of plans. I've made a lot of plans. of my life. And I'm kind of tired. I don't want to have to do that. I'm really comfortable at home, just watching TV all by myself and eating whatever I want. Right. So if I'm going to go out and actually like, you know, shower, shave my legs, ugh, better make it good. Right. So no,
Starting point is 00:09:49 I'm not splitting the bill on the first date and I'm also not asking him out. Right. Okay, number two, if a man doesn't finalize date plans or check in a head of scheduled date like the morning of, does this mean he's busy or that he's not interested? that's tough it's okay to be busy is it a monday through friday is he at work is he working no it means he's not that interested that's what i think i love your monologue you're like wait but let me go through this can you tell i go on a lot of dates i'm so busy dating i'm like wait I'm so busy dating. I have so many options.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I'm like, yes, no. No, no. I think that he doesn't care enough. There's no room for, in my world of dating, me personally, if we're talking about me, there's no room for playing games. And so I think if, like, it is Friday and we have plans to go out on Friday night and play pickleball, at, you know, at a decent time in the morning, 10 a.m., roll up.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I get up early. Right. Shoot me a text. Hey, I'm looking forward to seeing you. I'll pick you up at 6.30. Right. There's nothing wrong with that. No shame in the game.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I find that very attractive. I think so too. I mean, I chose confidence. Yes. I like that. Yes. I feel like if they're like wait and then they'll like see you at like four o'clock and they'll see you at six, I'd be like, I've kind of been waiting to see if you're confirming or not all day. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:13 At 4 p.m. I'm already in the mindset that I'm taking a bath and going to bed. Right. So if I haven't heard from you by 4 p.m. You can just not ever call again. Yeah. We need to like explore that later because that's like a really good, really good point. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Number three, how long should you be dating someone to bring up the topic, money, debt, and credit scores? I don't think I'm the right person for this question, Kelly. I also think, I was just having this conversation. I also think because I genuinely don't think I ever want to get married again. And again, you and I have talked about this. Yes. I'm not dating for someone else's paycheck.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I'm just not. I'm not trying to date someone who's broke. I like a nice thing. I like to eat good food. I really love to travel and I need someone who can do that. But I'm not looking for someone to foot the bill. That's a good way to put it. I have a really great credit score so I don't mind sharing that.
Starting point is 00:12:09 But I wouldn't say, I mean, I worked really hard in my whole life. I worked really hard for everything I've got. And I worked really hard for my credit score and I'm really proud of it. But it's not something that I'm sharing. And I think if it was 20 years ago, and I was looking at marrying someone, those things would probably be a priority to me. But it's just not now.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I have my own money. I have my own checking account. I have my own credit score, which is really great. And I'm not footing the bill for anyone. I'm just not going to do it. I love that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:42 So dating someone that has money debt or credit scores, like that just doesn't work for me. Like I don't want to be with someone that has debt. I don't want to be footing someone's bill. I just don't. I mean, I've, you know, provided for my kids, and I'm so proud of that. And, you know, we're very similar in that way that I just want, you know, I want, like, even footing. I don't want to be my back foot when I'm with a guy.
Starting point is 00:13:07 I just want to feel good and get to know them and learn about, you know, how we could be together. I don't want any kind of, like, extra, extra things that are coming in. They're, like, you know, things that are coming in and be like, oh, my God, like, by the way, we can't buy a house because I have bad credit score or something. You know what I mean? something that would affect me. I think it's safe to say we are no longer 22. Therefore, I'm not going out to Chipotle because it's cheaper than the new restaurant that opened up in New York City. If I want to eat out somewhere, I have the funds to pay for it. And I don't want to sound terrible when I say it, but I also need someone to match that game. Right. Which one with that? What's wrong with that?
Starting point is 00:13:45 Nothing. I'm pretty good. I think it's great. I do too. Yeah. I'm in the same way. I'm just, that's not what I want. So if someone has a lot of debt, Should that be a red flag? Yes. Yes, it's a red flag. Yes. Because you know what else I also don't want? What?
Starting point is 00:14:00 To take on anyone else's debt. Right. Yeah, because if something happens to them, you're responsible for it. It's a huge red flag. I will tell you, I very early on, went on a date,
Starting point is 00:14:09 and this guy and I had talked and we had made plans to go out. And then, like, the day before we were supposed to go out, he called me, and he was like, this whole 45-minute conversation, and if you know anything about me, I do not like to talk on the telephone.
Starting point is 00:14:21 I'm a texter. I just don't have time. Right. My time is very valuable. And towards the end of the conversation, he let me know that he lives with his mom and dad. In the basement? 48. I was like, I'm...
Starting point is 00:14:32 In the same room? I was like... Wait, in the same room they grew up in? I don't, didn't ask enough. At that point, I was like... Is there a teddy bear on the bed? I believe that this is not going in the direction for us. I cannot date someone who lives at home with mom and dad.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Right. I just can't. And did he say why or he just... He told me why, and it sounded like he had some hard stuff. which I have grace for, it just doesn't suit me. Right. I'm not making out on mom and dad's couch. I'm just not.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I'm not. Let me out on mom and dad's couch. Oh my God. I love that. Yeah. I have two kids, Kelly. I know. I don't want a third.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Right. No. I love that. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
Starting point is 00:15:33 He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him, because, he now wants them both to meet. So do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:16:06 podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel, writer Strong, and Wilfredel from PodMeets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right. We are back in Las Vegas, the city of sin, and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content.
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Starting point is 00:19:25 Culture Raises Us podcast, I sat down with Warren Campbell, Grammy winning producer, pastor, and music executive to talk about the beats, the business, and the legacy behind some of the biggest names in gospel, R&B, and hip-hop. This is like watching Michael Jackson talk about thoroughly before it happened. Was there a particular moment where you realize just how instrumental music culture was to shaping all of our global ecosystem? I was eight years old. and the Motown 25 special came on. And all the great Motown artists, Marvin, Stevie Wonder, Temptations, Diana Ross. From Mary Mary to Jennifer Hudson, we get into the soul of the music and the purpose that drives it.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Listen to Culture raises us on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So if you want to get married again, number five, if you want to get married again, but the person you were newly dating has expressed that they don't see themselves getting married again. Should you file that information away and bring it up later or end the relationship now? I feel like you asked this to my future dater because I'm the person who doesn't want to get married again. I was like, wait a minute. She's going to say I don't want to get married. Listen, I do everyone a solid.
Starting point is 00:20:38 If marriage and kids is what you're looking for, I'm not it. Right. I can be a great partner. I believe in partnership and companionship. I believe in monogamy. Right. I don't need the sheet of paper if that's what you're looking for. And I for sure don't want to have your babies.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I just don't. I have to and I feel really great. My life feels full. I'm 44 almost. I don't want to be pregnant again. I just don't. Right. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I say, lay it on the table right away. I mean, what do you think? Well, I love that you have boundaries. That's, you know, and I have boundaries. And I think that there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of women out there just don't. And, you know, I don't want to be, I just, you know, I want to be with a partner. I want a partner. Would you get married again? A hundred percent. That was me almost falling off of my chair.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Really? I would. Even though my daughter, my daughter Teddy said, mom, don't get married again. But I would, yes, definitely. With a pre-nup and everything. With a pre-nep. But also like to a real human, like to a person that, like, I had respect for and that I felt. comfortable with and that I didn't have live in fear like I feel like a lot of the guys that I've dated in the past you know they they brought a lot of fear I mean mark my words if we end up here back next year and I've met the love of my life and he has big arms and he keeps me safe you know what I mean emotionally and physically maybe else maybe I'll sing a different tune I'm like look at me look at me I'm sorry did you want to put a ring on
Starting point is 00:22:15 it. Maybe I will. Maybe I'll surprise myself. I feel like you're like from the first time that we spoke. I feel like the way that you're, you are just like in every aspect. You're just like very like light and like super positive and I mean, look so great. And you just feel like you're like you're in a really good time in your life. No? How much are they paying you? No, don't you feel like I'm in a really great time of my life? Yeah. I feel we spend a lot of time together. And I just feel like you're in a really, really good space. I think there is a lot of beauty in knowing exactly who you are, you know, and I have also said this a thousand times.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I'm not 25 anymore when I was The Bachelorette. I was impressionable, even though I still think that at my core I was who I was then, that I am now, I just am way more confident in it now. And I'm not willing to bend or break who I am for anyone. Right. Like those people go in and come out of your life for a reason. And I don't have to be everyone's cup of tea. I'm okay with that.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Right. But I also think I'm pretty great and I'm really kind. And I have some really redeeming qualities, but I don't have to be for everyone and that's okay with me. Well, like today, when we're after Pick a Ball and I was like, oh, my God, you're just so much fun. You're like, I have fun. I was like, oh, my God, I love that. I love that. I love the confidence.
Starting point is 00:23:41 All right. Number six, if you've been dating someone for six months and their children who are teenagers or older, don't get along with you. Is this a sign the relationship won't work out long term? This is a tough one. It is very tough. Yeah. I haven't had the pleasure of dating anyone with children. It's not easy.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And I guess if I have attempted to date anyone with children, I've not been put in a position to meet their children. I can only say this as like I came from divorced parents who both dated my dad remarried you know what I mean and my mother dated someone with children and I would imagine it was difficult to date there were three of us and we were wild so I can't imagine it was really easy on anyone else I don't know because I think if it were me and I love my children and they're pretty freaking great if they came to me and they were like mom Billy Bob is really a turd and we don't like him. I think I would take that to heart.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Like, I think that would, I would, that would, like, really resonate with me. But we're not talking like Billy Bob Thornton. No, no, no, no. But listen, I could give him a shot. I have so many options right now. What am I doing? I don't know. Don't you think your girls are old enough to be, like, judges of character?
Starting point is 00:24:58 It was, it was difficult for my kids. They were definitely very verbal about, you know, one of, you know, two, a couple of the guys that I had been dated that they, they were. just like, mom, this is not the vibe. And so I was just like, okay, you're done. Now, let me ask you, because I've never introduced anyone to my children, did you wait a specific amount of time to introduce someone to your children? I realize yours are a little bit older than mine. Right. So, but you know, I've been single for, since the ice age. I mean, I've been single forever. I'm like, oh my God, what's going to happen to me? It's funny because, like, we were talking before and
Starting point is 00:25:32 we were talking about, like, just knowing me, and you're like, I didn't even know who you're married to. You know, what was this person? So, you know, I've been single for a long time. And when, you know, when I was younger, you know, I was on housewives and we were busy. And there were a lot of people coming in and out of, you know, out of the apartment for work. And they never knew, like, who anyone was. They never, and my, they said that to me. They were like, we never even knew.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Until, like, recently I said, oh, these were the guys that I liked. And I was, you know, we were dating a little bit. And then my daughter, I guess my two daughters, like, ranked them, which was kind of charming. also awful. Oh, my God, I don't want to hear the list. But did you wait a specific time before? I mean, I realize your girls are older. So you probably share more with them. I'm asking more so for myself. With my last relationship, yes, I waited a while. You did. Like, are we talking like six months? Are we talking like a year? No, we're talking like a, you know, I mean, they were older.
Starting point is 00:26:28 So it was like, you know, a couple of months, but not just like right away. I think that my personal opinion on this is that it's not necessarily about the children. It's more about the relationship has to evolve and has to, like, really start to, like, you know, move into another, you know, move into something else. Like, I'm not just going to be like, hey, you're cute, I'm cute, let's have fun. Like, that's not ground to be my kids. No, and I guess I just think I don't want a revolving door from my children, but I also, Kelly, listened to far too many crime podcast to, like, have anyone around the children. Like, maybe I'm, there's something wrong with me. No, but you're right, because you are the provider and you're also, you're both. You
Starting point is 00:27:03 and you wear both hats. And so it's, that's not, you know, it's not easy. And I, and I, and I, and I, respect you for that. And I think that's really admirable. Because most women, especially in New York, they're like, kids, who cares? I need to get married. Like, I need my, I need a new Amex. And it's just like, that's not my vibe. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think, I don't want another Amex. Yeah. I just think I'm okay. Me too. We're both good with that. Okay. Number seven, how long should you be dating somebody before you travel with them? I don't know. Because I really like to travel. So if you met someone, you were like, this guy's great. And he was like, let's go on a trip next week.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Would you go? Yeah, but listen, 72 hours is way different than having someone over from 6 to 10. That's very different. I think it has to be a personality thing for me. I agree. Because I, listen, I have control issues. It must be shocking for you to hear. Shocking.
Starting point is 00:28:00 But I got a few things. But I think that you would genuinely have to know someone to go and travel and stay. in a hotel room with them because I do. I like like my things in a certain way. I like it really cold. I like jack the air down as cold as it can possibly be. I don't unpack. I like all of my things in one place so I know where they are.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And then to have a human being that I don't really know disrupting that. You were like, what are you doing? Why did you move my toothbrush? Why don't you put my toothbrush on the left side of the sink? So weird. Don't touch my toothbrush, you weirdo. It's over. You move my toothbrush.
Starting point is 00:28:33 It's done. I don't know. I don't know. I travel with the kids. Yeah. And, like, I have a select few girlfriends that I can enjoy for, like, days on end. Ooh, that's a tough one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:45 It depends on where we're going. Right. You know, like Mexico. Like, you're going to Cabo. I can lay out by the pool all day. 100%. See you, Peter. I'll meet you down at the beach.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Right. I need a break. But if it's like, Idaho and it's cold, I really don't like the snow. What about, like, oh, my God, I have to go to Paris tomorrow. Would you come? Yeah, I'd go. For sure, go. She's like, yes.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Are we going first class? Absolutely, sign me up. Are we going for this? Absolutely. I love that. I love that copper was like, oh my God. Okay, so number eight, rank these things that are from the most important to the least important in chapter to dating.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Intimacy, quality time, date night, the spark communication. I can't possibly rank those. let me look at the list again to most important to least important yes this is really hard starting with most important I would go with communication
Starting point is 00:29:46 I was just going to say that too it sounds boring but in the long run if we're looking at the long run communication is very important right so I'm going to go with that most important communication next up is going to be
Starting point is 00:30:00 intimacy for me I've had I'm going to be careful here what I say but I am in a phase of my life where I would really like to enjoy intimacy am I saying that in a very polite way? You are. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I would like to enjoy intimacy at my age. So I'm going to go communication, intimacy. Don't say your age. Don't say that because it's like I just want to enjoy intimacy. You're beautiful and young and like. I'm just thinking about like when I was 22. I didn't know my own body. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I didn't know what was where. Right. That's what you do. You're like, oh, my God, what is that? Yeah. Don't come at me with that thing. But now I'm welcoming it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Now I'm like, yeah, absolutely. Communication, intimacy. I'm going to go with quality time is very important to me. I think it's my love language. Love quality time. I'm going to go next, the spark, and then to date night. I'm not even going to. to rank a date night because I think that's a given people just a date night can be very different
Starting point is 00:31:07 you know what I mean you can go out to dinner right I'm not a traditional dater and I don't know if that's just because I was on the bachelor in the bachelorette and now I'm traumatized for the rest of my life but I find it a traditional date like hi let's go meet for drinks and talk until we're blue in the face sometimes that bores me like let's think outside of the box let's do something different so I think there's a billion ways sideways to do a date night okay now you rank them. I think that, okay, you don't know, my God. I think that, yes, definitely communication, definitely intimacy. The spark is really important to me. Quality time and date night are kind of the same thing. But I want to be with someone that I really want to be with. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:56 You know, I, you know, when you are working female and you're also, you know, trying to, you know, even though my girls are older, I'm still their parent. I still talk to them all day long and trying to, you know, help guide them and make good decisions. And I, you know, still have a lot of fear. I want them to do well. And I worry about them, clearly. And so, you know, I want to be with someone that makes me feel good.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Yeah, valuable. Yes. You know what I mean? Not like monetary. I want someone who makes, someone's like, you look gorgeous. And I'm like, oh, my God. You know what I like, I like to say. Men never tell me I'm pretty, ever.
Starting point is 00:32:35 They're like, you stop it right now. I swear to God. They never. They're like, oh, that's nice. I'm like, you're not hanging out with the right men because you are stunning. Thank you. But you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:44 Like, that kind of stuff would mean something to me. Like something, I want to look good for them. I do. Do you know what our word is? What? We want to be cherished. Yes. We want to be cherished.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I love that. Yes. I want to be cherished. Yes. Yes. I do. We're leaving 20 to 25 with that's our word. Cherish. Cherish us or don't. Okay, so number nine, what is a, what is a small thing people
Starting point is 00:33:11 tend to overlook, but in reality is a huge sign in a relationship, that a relationship isn't good? How codependent they are on their family would be a good starter. Okay. So I think it's a pretty huge red flag. Huge. Co-dependency is a huge red flag to me. Yeah. Yeah. I need a, I need an individual. I need someone who could stand on their own two legs. I need a confident man. Respect for their family is great. But yes, I don't want someone that's like, hold it one second, I guess. Ask my mom everything.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Yeah. I lived in a marriage where everyone had a seat at the table. Everyone had a seat at the table. They got a vote at the end of the day. I don't want that. Right. I believe that in a relationship, it should lie between the two people in it. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:59 You were in a relationship where everyone in his family had a, had I told you guys what you were doing? Yeah, there was a seat at the table, and everyone got one. And so when you went home, you were like, I'm not doing that, or? I think it took me a minute to get to that point. I don't think I realized at the time that that's what was happening. Right. I don't think I realized at the time.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Yeah, that's not easy. That's not easy. I mean, that goes back to what you just said about cherish. So number 10, do you think people can, have different religious beliefs and have a successful relationship or is that a fundamental or is that a fundamental that needs to be aligned?
Starting point is 00:34:42 I would say for me it's a fundamental thing that needs to be aligned. I am a Christian. I don't hide that. I would love someone who loves Jesus, the Lord. That's where I go. For me and only me personally, I'm sure it works for other people. I won't be able to relate probably
Starting point is 00:35:01 with someone who does not practice Christianity. That is the home I want to live in. That is how I raise my children. And that's the kind of relationship that I personally would like to be in. For me. That works for me.
Starting point is 00:35:17 That is important to me. I don't know what you think. So I call it spiritual integrity. My ex-husband is Jewish. My girls are half Jewish. I'm Catholic. And I just kind of gave myself this grace to just be open
Starting point is 00:35:33 to a lot of different religions as long as there is like beauty and love in people that and respect you know how did you celebrate Christmas though we celebrated Christmas because I celebrated Christmas but you know if you know because that's kind of that was a holiday you know my ex-husband
Starting point is 00:35:54 wasn't it was not like he was you know he wasn't a practicing Jewish man he was he was he turned he converted to Judaism later on. And I just was like, this is what I'm doing and this is how I'm doing it. And they're my children. Yeah. So I'm, I support you and Hanukkah,
Starting point is 00:36:12 but I also need to be respectful of my family and our religion. Yeah, I've dated people in the past. Would you convert? No. No, I wouldn't. No. No, I feel like also with where I'm at in my life and who I am and confident in myself,
Starting point is 00:36:29 I also have a really wonderful walk. with Christ. And that's, I just don't see myself deviating from that. That is what I believe in. Right. Those are, those are my beliefs. That is how I am raising my children. And, and it's important to me. It would be important to me in a relationship. Yeah. I love that. I mean, I just want my girls to be respectful and kind and have spiritual integrity, no matter whatever they choose to do with their own lives or whoever they choose to be with. I just want that person to, I don't want them to be with an atheist. I don't would, that would, that would really, really upset me. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam,
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Starting point is 00:42:05 Number 11. What's one thing you think men, 50 plus, need to lighten up on when it comes to dating? There's more than one thing. Did I say that loud? I don't think I've... I think I've only been on a date. with 50 plus, like maybe twice.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Yeah. And what did you think? This is going to really sound terrible. I don't know if I'm just attracted to younger guys. It sounds so bad. I kind of felt like I was on a date with an old man. Right. I did.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And it was like, it was down to like, oh, you know how when you're on a date? Sometimes there's just things that just like, that's it. Like that's just a. And I went on a date one time. This dude was wearing shorts and ten. shoes. I have a you ran on a date with you in shorts and tennis shoes? Well it was like our third or fourth
Starting point is 00:42:55 date. Our third or fourth date and I broke up with a guy once because he wore K-Swiss with blue jeans. It's just my own It's like the optics of K-Swiss with blue jeans are no. It sounds so terribly superficial and I
Starting point is 00:43:11 am so sorry, forgive me but you know how there are just certain things that you just can't get past and I had a thing when I was younger with guys who wore white sneakers, K-Swiss in particular, and wore them. And this, you know, I'm 44 almost. So this was back when like cargo jeans were, 43. Cool, 43. And why are you aging yourself? I know. And I just, it was, I couldn't get past the white tennis shoes and the blue jeans. So also this older guy and I, I think he was like 56. So he's about, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:41 and it was like our third or fourth date. We were going to the music thing. And when he showed up, he had on like khaki cargo shorts and tennis shoes not even like cool ones like some nikes like his running shoes yeah wow and all night i was just like oh yeah he's got his nikes on he's going running why is he wearing those right where is he going i i try to relatively look attractive right you know what i mean like i i i tried to look and he was just like didn't care that's not that's right for a job dude and i couldn't get past it i totally agree but that also Kelly should tell you it wasn't meant to be. I know, but I'm like that.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I mean, I definitely judge men by the way they look. I do 100%. By their shoes, I mean, I'm always like, it is just one thing that sometimes. Don't think I'm not being judged when I walk in. Right, 100%. If my hair is not done or I'm not wearing a full face of makeup or my ass is too big.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Don't think I'm not being judged. Right. I definitely agree with you that if a guy, I mean, if I'm making the effort, then he can make the effort. I totally agree with you. Yes. Shower, wash your hair, slap on a little cologne.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Yeah. You wear your sneakers, but like let them be cool. Right. I think that for me, what happens with a lot of men in their 50s is that because I'm in my 50s and I'm not judging them. Like I'm not judging them for the relationships that they've had. I just want to know them. And I think what happens is because they're dating a lot of different women's, a lot of different women from a lot of different ages is that they want, they think that trauma bonding with a past narrative or saying something about an. ex is going to make you be like open up and I'm like no no no I don't want to open up about my ex
Starting point is 00:45:23 like I will talk to you about that later on if we start to date and have a serious conversation about how it affected me and we know what my thoughts are but I'm not going to be like yeah let me just like you know shit on my ex because you want to shit on your ex to make yourself feel better so that's a big thing for me when we're done here we need to write a book on dating 101. Yes. But like to me, there are certain things that are common sense. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:51 There are certain things that are common sense. And on the first couple of dates, word vomit about my past relationships or my ex-husband on a date is not, that's not a good look. How does that make you, do you think, do men think that women are more attractive if they're word vomiting? I definitely don't see them as attractive. I'm like, oh, here we go. I'm just part of a therapy session.
Starting point is 00:46:13 It's just like a dinner. we're all egotistical. Humans are egotistical. We believe that our thoughts are more important. Our beliefs are more important. Our opinion is more important. How many times do you sit down and do a podcast and think, oh, yeah, make no to that.
Starting point is 00:46:27 I want to say that. I want to respond with that versus hearing what someone is sharing. We are egotistical is who we are. And when people do that, they believe that we really give a flying who was in the wrong when their relationship didn't work. So they feel the need to tell us. so that you think that they're a good person, so that you think they're good at relationships.
Starting point is 00:46:49 They feel the need to tell you that they were wrong. But I'm more in the, I'm like, if it's show and tell, I want to see the show. You don't need to tell me, I can already see it. Yeah. Like, if you're a good person, you don't need to tell me that you're a good person. I can tell by your mannerisms, by your manner,
Starting point is 00:47:07 by how kind you are to a waiter. You know, those, I can see with my own eyes what you're doing that's, you know, kind, I can also, you don't need to tell me how kind you are because I'm like, oh, yeah. I'm fun and I'm kind. I am so fun. I'm so fun.
Starting point is 00:47:27 I'm so fun. I'm so kind. I'm so kind. I'm so kind. I'm so kind. I'm like the kindness of all kind. I'm doing really well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:32 I'm doing great. Great. I know. I'm like, that's great for you. So what's one thing you think women in their 50s need to lighten up on when it comes to dating? Money. I think. women in their 50s who are single in particular focus on money. They are looking for a man
Starting point is 00:47:51 who is financially sound, financially stable, and has the money and the wealth to take care of them. They're chasing the Amex. Yes, I agree with you. What are the three things you should be able to know about someone after one date? Oh, God, I got in trouble for this. Did you go first? No, no, you go first. This is yours. These are your questions. Oh my gosh. Three things you should walk away knowing of their name would be super important. I can't tell you how many times I walk away and they don't know my name. Right. They don't say your name?
Starting point is 00:48:21 Yeah. They don't know my name. Right. Okay. I'm really doing it. Okay. Really doing well. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:28 They don't know your name. Your name. Okay. They should know that I have children. They should know that. And I don't know. I don't know. They should know you have, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:41 They should definitely know you have children. And I think that there should be some kind of baseline understanding of like who you are. They should have, they should kind of have a, I should know their more, like their baseline compass and they should know mine. A baseline compass. I really like that. No, don't you think? Yeah, I'm going to take that. A baseline compass?
Starting point is 00:49:05 Like here, like even if it's just a casual, like here are a couple of lines of the sand that I will not put up with or. Yeah. I'm going to take that. So then they're like, oh, okay, I can see who you are, you know? Yeah. On my next date, I'm going to make sure they know my baseline compass. The moral compass. My moral compass.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Not your compass. Just my compass in general. What are three things you should be able to, okay, sorry. In your opinion, number 14, in your opinion, do men still want to date a woman if they're intimate with them on the first date? No. No, I don't think so. I think that that age-old thing dates back a really long time.
Starting point is 00:49:47 If you give up all of the jewels from the get, why would they come back for more jewels? Give the milk away for free. Don't. Yeah. You don't give it away. Everyone pays the milk, man. Right. It's not free.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Right. 15. If you're dating long distance and your I do part two life, what do you need to do to make it successful long term. I don't know. I got my ex, I got divorced after 10 years. I think that long distance
Starting point is 00:50:21 is hard and you have to be really intentional. I would say that now older, dating older, and especially because I don't want marriage and I don't want kids, that it would be easier to prioritize that. I don't know that it is something that I could have done as a 20-something.
Starting point is 00:50:39 You know what I mean? My priorities are just very different. Plus, I don't know, I was poor when I was like 23. I was trying to sell houses, like, just to pay my mortgage. Like, I was, I couldn't fly to New York for 48 hours and go out to dinner. I'd be sitting in the back of the bus. And I want to sit in a nice big seat in the front of the bus. She's like, I want comfort.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I want comfort. I think that in my, in where I am in my life, I think that long distance is difficult. However, if it's not that far away, where it's like train ride away or something, then I would be fine with it because I do have a very hectic schedule. And I don't want a man to be on my time. I want to be on our time.
Starting point is 00:51:24 And so I'd rather spend time together and have it be like really meaningful and make me feel really good about the time that we're together than just spending like every single day together. Listen, Kelly, he would have to knock my flipping socks off in order for me to do it. it. Right. And then I would have to be really intentional. Right. I'm not, I'm just, but I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:51:46 like, I'm open to that. I'm, I'm open to that. Okay. 16. If someone said they wanted you to be their partner, but you knew they'd have to sleep in a separate bed for the, for the unforeseeable future, how would you react? It's a hard pass. I'm just, like, it's probably like snoring or something. It's a hard pass. Someone, like, interrupted my sleep. I'd be like, I'm sorry. I'm eight hours. Like, you can't. But you would still date them if they had to sleep in a separate room? No. No. No. No. What's the point. Like, I don't want a roommate. I don't want a pen pal. No, definitely don't want that. Hard pass. Yes. Agreed. If you're in a relationship with someone, do you consider any of the following cheating? You ready? Going to a strip club. Cheating. Watching porn.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Cheating. Having a subscription to Only fans. Cheating. So what we've learned here is I'm an old prude. I'm an absolute prude. What we're going to do is, listen, cheating, cheating, cheating, cheating, cheating. Across the board. I don't care if it is emotionally, you're just looking but not touching. Right. I don't care if you're hiding behind your little keyboard and you're just getting off. Hard pass for me. No, thank you. No, thank you. I want to be the apple of someone's eye. Right. I want to be the person that they're like, I can't wait to be with you. I don't want them to be like, oh, see that girl? Let's put her on. No. No. Nope. I totally agree. And like going to a strip club, I'm like, why would you want to go to a strip club if you had respect for me?
Starting point is 00:53:11 I also just think if you have to hide and do things, that should tell you that it is wrong. Right. If you're hiding to do things, if you're hiding to watch porn, you're hiding on only fans, it's wrong. Okay. What if they told you that they were doing that? Or if they're like, hey, babe, yeah. Then give me the option. It's still a no for me.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Right. No, thank you. I don't want that either. I don't need you paying for foot pictures. Right. I get a pedicure. You can stare at mine. What color do you want this week?
Starting point is 00:53:37 When you're in a serious relationship or marriage number 18 and when you're in a serious relationship or marriage, is it okay to be friends with an ex if you've had, if you had no children together? Why or why not? This is kind of like, I don't know how I feel about this one. I am such an incredibly loyal human being in friendships, partnerships, partnerships, relationships, relationship, and in my marriage. So for me, in particular, I didn't wish anyone ill will. If I were to see an ex-boyfriend, I would wish them well. But it would bother me
Starting point is 00:54:17 if my significant other was texting separately without my knowledge with an ex-girlfriend. I am a firm believer that relationships come to an end for a reason. I am not one of those people
Starting point is 00:54:30 that go back and forth. Let's give it 11 more tries. I'm not going to do it. When things come to an end that is a cleansing, for me that means something better is entering your life and I by all means wide open bring it to me I'll take the better so I don't leave the door open for for old stuff right so there have been guys that I dated who I thought they were great I just didn't want to be with them um and I don't have any
Starting point is 00:54:56 I don't have any emotional attachment to them so it doesn't matter if they're texting me you know I may respond quickly I may not respond for a while I don't feel there's that attachment attachment. If my, if someone that was dating was texting with someone where there was some kind of like inappropriate conversations, then I would say like, you need to make a choice. Like I'm not going to be wrong for that. Like I'm not putting up with that. Yeah. If it's like, hey, you know, hope everyone's well. Merry Christmas. Like, I'm fine with that or, you know, but nothing that's like would be misconstrued as inappropriate. That would really, that would hurt my feelings.
Starting point is 00:55:34 I don't have enough brain cells. to be texting many different people. My time is valuable. I don't care. I just don't. A thousand. And I totally agree with you. So the 20,
Starting point is 00:55:45 do you believe in love at first sight? I do. I've never experienced love at first sight, but I do think it happens. We hung out with Ryan and Trista all day. I think that's a prime example. They met on a television show. They fell in love.
Starting point is 00:55:57 They've been married ever since. I'm not saying it's easy. I do think it happens. I have personally never experienced it. I think it happens too. I mean, I am open to it too. I mean, I've seen people where I'm like, oh my gosh, but I was, but maybe there I was like, this is a great person, but I was not in a position in that time of my life
Starting point is 00:56:17 to be able to like take it to the next step. So I believe that as well. Okay, the last, 21, lucky 21. What's something you learned about yourself going through divorce? It's a loaded. question you've learned a lot i've learned a lot but i would say one thing that has stuck with me my entire life is that i'm freaking resilient i am freaking resilient and i said this to you earlier i keep my side of the street clean i love when you said that that's all i can do that's all i can do
Starting point is 00:56:50 i am in charge of me i am in charge of what comes out of my mouth i am in charge of how i reply what i do what i say so much of my life gets played out for people to see without that one to be my desire, I keep my side of the street clean. Yeah. And I am freaking resilient. I mean, I think we both are. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:14 You know, I mean, we both have had our own paths, but I agree. I mean, I'm just proud of who I am as a human, as a mother, as a provider. I'm very proud of that. And I agree. Yeah. Like, I just, I don't like, I don't like things that are messy. First of all, like, I'll probably forget something. If someone said, what did you say?
Starting point is 00:57:36 I'll be like, I have no idea. Like, I don't, like, it doesn't, I just, I don't like things that are messy. Yeah. I like things to be in order. I think, like things to be calm. I like there to be, I want to be able to be in a position where I can be nurturing to my partner,
Starting point is 00:57:52 nurturing to my kids. I don't want to be like, on my back foot, trying to figure things out. Yeah. That's not what I want. I also, like, you just, you take things, you grow from them and you learn. Everything is a learning experience.
Starting point is 00:58:03 It is. And if people are not doing that, that and they're not taking things that happen in their life and choosing to better themselves from it, then where's the growth? Right. Where's the growth? Like, that's what we're supposed to do at the end of the day. You know what I want to be?
Starting point is 00:58:19 Every day, I want to be a better woman. I want to be a better mother. Right. I want to be a better partner someday. Right. I want to be a better human being. You know, it's interesting in business. They always talk about, like, oh, it's a value ad.
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Starting point is 00:58:49 We've got all this hair, these bright and shining personalities. We're like smiling. We play pickleball. We play pickleball. Yeah, we've got so. Gosh, I know. We're doing great. We're doing great.
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