The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - The Bartender Knows It All with Wells Adams

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

A Paradise icon - Wells Adams is giving his honest take on what he thought of this new version of Bachelor in Paradise - from the Goldens, to the location, to the theme song changing, and more!As the bartender, Wells hears and sees it all. He gives us his perspective on some of the biggest drama from this season, and why it was important for him to give his opinion in the interview chair. Plus, Wells is pitching a new TV show he thinks should be a part of Bachelor Nation!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is the Ben and Ashley I, Almost Famous Podcasts with IHart Radio. Welcome to Almost Famous Podcasts today. Before I get into the Paradise Chat, I just want to give a shout out to our hotel we're staying at, the Portofino Hotel and Marina. At the Portofino Hotel and Marina in Redondo Beach, every moment comes with a view. From your elegant guest room, gaze

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for a scenic coastal ride. Then, return to the hotel living room where the Portofino poor self-served tap wall invites you to unwind and soak in a breathtaking coastal sunset. Discover your seaside escape at the Portofino Hotel and Marina. Now, let's get back to our interview. I am sitting with somebody who's been a part of Bachelor in Paradise for how many years? Eight seasons? And this was season 10, so you missed the first two, but you were on one of those seasons. Yeah, so I was on three, and then I was the bartender for four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, and ten.

Goodness gracious. I want to just start because eight years, eight seasons of anything is a long time. When you show up to paradise, does it feel like home to you? Well, this one didn't because we went to a new location. We went to Costa Rica. I mean, we did the first nine seasons in Sallita, so that felt like home. I knew that place very well. What was funny is that the audience knows it really well, too.

Like in production, we had have all these like code names for things like Jungle Path or Treehouse or Hobbit Hole or Boom Boom Room. And then it became part of like the lore of Bachelor Nation. Like they started picking up on it and using it, which is very funny. So this season felt very different because it was in a new location. But like if every season has a theme, the theme of this one was change. Like everything was different. You know, we moved locations, we brought in the Goldens, and then all of a sudden we turned it into a game show with a money element and all these relationship tests. And it was just completely different.

So to answer your question, no, it felt like doing a completely different show for me. Did you need that? Was that exciting for you? I think that, you know, the only constant in life is change. And I think that if you are not changing and evolving, you're going to be left behind. the show and the IP is and the fans are huge but I think at some point you need to pivot to trying different things and seeing what works

and I'll be the first to admit like some things that we did I think were amazing and like we need to implement going forward and some things I think didn't work as well and we need to revert back to like what it was originally like a couple examples like I knew the audience was going to be upset with the song being different and like halfway through the season

the song came back I want to know because we were I mean I was very vocal about not liking the song being different it did feel like Bachelor Nation at least on social media was like we missed the song and then it did go back was that a pivot midseason by production do you think

or was that always the plan? I have no idea and I can be totally wrong but I assume that's a note from ABC being like bring the song back people are upset. I like that they're listening to the audience absolutely and that's one thing that I think that a lot of people in the past have criticized a show for

is that they don't listen to the audience. It's not the Bachelor we wanted. It's not the Bachelorette we wanted. And so I think that was cool. They made some other tweaks too. In the past, we would always do credit roll, which is kind of like the silly scenes that happen while the credits are rolling.

And that kind of wasn't there in the beginning. And then as the season went on, that kind of came back. You know, the intro with like the silly intros kind of comes back. And then the things that, like, Bachelor Nation loves were still there, like funny lower thirds, like the Chiron's, you know, like it says someone's name and then it says like some funny stat or whatever it, you know, applies that thing. And then I think that, you know, the, the challenges, the relationship challenges, albeit like I know that the cast was annoyed by it and like this is not what they signed up for. And that was kind of like the conversation that was happening during it.

but after going through it and experiencing it and then seeing how successful the show was because if the show's success is a derivative of who leaves the beach in a couple, then I think that we had one of the most successful shows we've had in a very long time and I think that the challenges

and the relationship exercises that we did helped. I think it showed people who people really were, and that's like the most important thing you know because when you're on when you're on a first date you're kind of just showing your best self right and if you're on a dating show that's being filmed

you're probably always trying to show your best self understandable everyone would do it but if you get thrown into like a very competitive situation like your true colors are going to come out like you know the cat learned that Dale's very competitive but like not in a bad way just like a thing that probably wouldn't have been broached

if we did the show the way we did. So I think that, yes, it pushed couples to the limit, but then it also kind of fused them and bonded them more so than it has in the past. And looking back, I think it was a really cool pivot that we implemented this year, and I hope that continues going forward. You mentioned that really, I mean,

from the production side to a fan side, for a successful season to be done, it's really what couples come together. The money element this year was a huge element to be added in. It wasn't something that you just mentioned there in the change of that were made. I think from a fan's perspective, the concern was, well, then love isn't a point here.

But if that still is the marker of success for the team putting together the show, how do you balance those two things where money is at the end, especially going forward? I think Paradise got lucky this year with two couples that really like each other. but if that doesn't always happen then it's going to become

just a complete game show it's never stated but the truth is the last relationship challenge is the money it's what are you going to choose and if you chose the money then you failed that relationship challenge

right yeah and so that's what happened they both didn't both couples didn't choose the money they chose love they end up still winning the money of course so yeah like I get it I understand I understand fans balking at the whole thing

and it takes away kind of the magic of paradise. But if we're asking these people to effectively the mission statement is that we hope you leave together in the best world possible you get engaged. If we're asking these people to go do this,

I do think, and it's not like these people are making a lot of money going on the show, just so everyone knows. Fair enough, guys need to know that like it's not a lot of money you're not retiring you're not even close you're actually probably screwed because you're not working while you're there um i don't think it's a terrible thing to be like have we got a couple of dollars if we're going to get if we're engaged

you know we got a couple dollars to you know used to buy a place together or like move in together or maybe it goes to a wedding or something like i don't think that that's a terrible thing i can you know hindsight 2020 for me and obviously like it could have gone terribly wrong but it also it would have been scintillating television if someone chose money over love, right? Like, heartbreaking television because I really liked the couples that ended up together. Yeah.

I think the big question now, uh, because the changes were drastic, took a little bit to you used to, and then very enjoyable to watch, experience, be a part of, and we were all on the edge of our seats when it came down to that finale episode.

How do you move forward though? The mystery is now revealed. True. You're going to win money if you stay together. and you're going to win money if you break up. So how does the show move forward and keep this gripping television that we all experience this year?

Yeah, obviously it will change. You can't have the same thing again. And so it's going to be a situation of we're going to pivot. You've got to know we're going to pivot, but we're not going to tell you how it's going to go, right? But I've given my pitch for my show that I think would be great.

Yeah. Okay. And I've, by the way, I've pitched this to, I've pitched this to ABC. Jamie, I pitched this idea to you. So if you make this show and I don't get a credit, you're in trouble. Now we're on record. It's good.

I think it would be so fun if we did Camp Paradise or Camp Bachelor, whatever you want to call it. We rent out a camp, right? And you do it during school season. So like, there's not kids there. You bring the most popular Bachelor Nation people to camp. and they have to do camp stuff. So it's like a dragon boat race and canoe race

and underwater basket weaving and like archery and stuff and everyone has to go sleep in different bunks but you can like sneak out and go to someone else's bunk and you're doing challenges for money but then like with love happens it's fine. And then here's where I think it gets great. You can bring back a bunch of Bachelor Nation favorites

who are married who can't like go and just like canoodle around. Who's in bed at nine o'clock? Exactly. So like me and you. you, we're camp counselors. And Jesse is like the leader of this whole thing. And then they'll be like nights where like the camp counselors are like,

we're going into town to go to the bar. And then someone gets arrested. And Jesse's got to come and like bail us out. I can see it being so fun. And the thing is that it's hard to convince a bunch of people who are beautiful and, you know, don't have a whole lot of problems in their lives to come to paradise to potentially look bad. But if you told any adult, do you want to go to camp?

Like, yes, I do. That sounds amazing. So anyways, Camp Bachelor is my idea, and I think we should do it. I actually love the idea because I just said on our last episode of the Almost Famous podcast, one of my favorite scenes this whole season of Paradise is when they had to camp. And I like, this was, it was a great mix. We just got done. You just hosted the reunion, the finale with everybody.

You did a great job. But one of the things that were said, Kat said, I went to Paradise because there is air conditioning. this year. That's great. I don't think that's a bad thing. However, I want to see beautiful people in very uncomfortable situations. I miss that. Yeah. I miss that about Paradise. I think your idea matches that because that's what was going on at the camp. They were breaking down. If you would have left them out there for another hour, you had pure panic happening at Paradise. Yeah. I like to, I would love to watch that. I'd love to be a part of that. And I, I know you and I would be the ones, uh, sneaking out to go to the bar that could get in trouble.

I can just like imagine it now of like, like, we're wearing like red shorts that are too short. Like wet hot American summer. Yes, red hot American summer, but for Bachelor nation. I'm telling you, it's a gold idea. It's a great show. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So like, it's not, What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different.

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My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school. week on the okay story time podcast so we'll find out soon this person writes my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot he doesn't think it's a problem but i don't trust her now he's insisting we get to know each other but i just want her gone now hold up isn't that against school policy that sounds totally inappropriate well according to this person this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age and it's even more likely that they're cheating

he insists there's nothing between them i mean do you believe him well he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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intrigued by you. I love Jesse. I think Jesse has done a terrific job filling in and taking over the franchise. I've always said publicly, and you don't have to comment on this, that Paradise should be Wells' show. Not for any hit on Jesse. Again, I just think you are Paradise

and you have been for so long. but even with that being said you play still such a crucial role in paradise these we just saw it on stage during the reunion podcast these people trust you you care about them you get to know their relationships who they are as people you're giving them advice you're making them drinks you're around them a ton it isn't just uh it's not an easy job and i think that's something i always like to to bring up is this is not just like an hour of out of your day day every day for a month. This is, you're a bartender, legitimately in paradise. I want to, for the listeners, when you enter into a season of paradise, knowing that you are working for a

month straight, digging into love and also making drinks, what kind of mindset do you bring into that? Just as the bartender and not kind of the host of the show. Yeah. Well, thank you for saying that. You know, I've, I've eight seasons. I've thought about this a lot. And like, don't get me wrong. Yes, I wanted to host Bachelor in Paradise. But I recognize that I can do something that Jesse can't because I'm

ingrained in the show. Because I'm there the entire day. I'm experiencing more of it. The stakes for me are higher because I'm friends with all these people. I'm making them drinks. They're laying their heart out

on the line. And And it allows me to do something that I think Jesse can't do, which is to be what the audience is thinking, like say what the audience is thinking, which they did a good bit of that this year where, you know, I think the audience never wants to feel dumb. And when it's when it's never vocalized, it gets really frustrating for Bachelor Nation. So having me there, yes, it's important that I make them drinks and I give them advice. But I also think it's important for me to be in the interview chair. Like, Jesse would never be in the interview chair, right? But for me to be like, this is what's happening. This is crazy. And I can't believe it. And like, I think I'm digging crazy bills. Like, I think that's important for the audience because then they're like, okay, he's justifying like what I'm saying.

Now, and I just don't think that a host can do that. The host needs to be separated a little bit, you know? And it sucks. I've seen it every season. And it happened with Chris. And it happens with Jesse. When they come on the show, the cast knows bad things are about to happen. right like it's oh no

like she's gonna tell us something that we don't want to do but when I come on the show it's not it's oh yeah all right we need some shots we need drinks you know yeah um so and it's totally two different roles and you know I think you're right like it would be weird to do paradise

not nothing to me but someone like me doing that thing it would be weird to do paradise without you and you can continue your thought that's my thought yeah I think other people could do it but I think that you can't just do it with a host I think you need like someone like me or Hannah

or whatever also being there to like explain what the hell is going on now when I go to the show my outset always is because I always just want everything to be funny like that's like my default is like comedy so my thing is like let's just do this

as funny as we humanly possible right like how can we make this as fun as humanly possible. And so my thing is always like to the cast, I'm like, this is a silly show. Be silly, it's fine. I think the problem is that we get bogged down in the drama and the serious

and, you know, it's the most dramatic season ever. But my favorite parts of Paradise are always the funny things, right? And so that's usually what I'm going in being like, I hope this is a fun cast. I hope that they will lean into the comedy because it's supposed to open. It's a comedy.

It used to, especially, you know, with the silly intros and stuff. And so that's usually my mindset going in. And I think this cast did a good job of like embracing it. And I think production did a good job of making it still funny. So yeah, that's my thought when I come into the show. Do you think the Golden's helped? I mean, that's obviously a big change this season is we entered Goldens into the mix.

It was teased by you and Jesse once that was announced that who knows what's going to happen with the Golden's. And everybody's speculating like, you know, young ins and Golden's intermingling and having relationships. that really never happened. No. But the Goldens did come to the beach this season. It was a change. What were your thoughts? I was skeptical coming in.

One, I'm like, I don't know. I'm not sure how safe it is to have a bunch of elderly people in like 300 degree heat. And I'm serving them my ties. I want to kill somebody. But I got to be honest with you, they brought so much energy. I said it during the finale reunion show. we just did, like, thank God they were there. They injected that place with so much

energy. And it's because they don't give a fuck. Like, they've lived their life. Like, they're not trying to impress anyone on TV. Their parents are gone and, you know, grandparents. No one's judging what they do on the show. So it gave them this ability to be very, very free, which I think a lot

of the cast wished they could be more like the Goldens, you know? And I wish they could be too, because they just came in there being like, this is the greatest thing in the world. I'm on vacation. drinks are free you know like they weren't like

oh I'm gonna look bad or like the drama they were just having the best time and so they raised the the vibes of that place so many decibels that was it was insane

and now I can't imagine doing the show without them I wonder if they should get their own show I don't hate that we run into a problem with like logistics

of like how many things can we shoot in one year but I think it would be fun to do the show and then for all the audience I was like, it's be gross if like a old, a golden date's a young or whatever. If this whole thing is supposed to be a microcosm of the real world, this is basically a singles retreat. I don't think that there are rules for how old you have to be to go to a singles retreat.

And it happens every day. Of course, it wasn't going to happen on TV. But like, we had to tease it that way, right? Like, we're out here making a TV show. Yeah. I have a thought. It could be completely irrelevant and not true. One of the other things I liked about the goldens being there was when the money was announced.

In my mind, I'm thinking most of these people at this point are retired and they're retired for a reason because they've secured their egg. I don't know if 500,000 as good as that would be to be handed $500,000 at 75 years old. I don't know if that's that intriguing to them. They've kind of already kind of counted what they're going to spend for the rest of their. life. So it did take that out of it too in my mind. Like I don't know if Keith is up there like, goodness gracious, I need that 500,000. Who knows what his situation is in life? But I'm expecting that he's not really counting on it. Yeah. They also worked in a romantic relationship, Keith and Kathy. So, you know, I think I wonder what would have happened if there was a really, really

strong connection with Golden's at the end. Because if the barometer was like, who's really here for love and who isn't, which is kind of what everyone was kind of getting at, then you couldn't say that they don't deserve it just because they're retired and they have a nest egg and they've got Medicare and Medicaid and everything. They've also got kids too that probably could use a couple extra dollars. I don't know.

I think you could make the argument. I think it'd also be cool if you get all the way of the end and then you don't take it or you give it to another company. There's a million ways that it could be a cool ending. so I don't know we'll see we'll see what happens I think it would be cool

the problem that we ran into is there isn't enough pool of goldens yet to really get a lot of people there for it to work

a lot of people were like why are they coming in later why is the lesson there's just not a lot of them that show's only

been going on for a couple of seasons I think as that show continues to grow and that part of Bachelor Nation grows then it'll be much easier for us

to pair people up and for there to be like really good lasting relationships there. I think Nancy would come back to the show for the next 10 years if she was asked.

Yes. She would love to be in paradise. Dude, Nancy was awesome. I know you guys are both from Warsaw, so like we talked a lot about Indiana. Kathy also.

Kathy's great. Like she, you need a good narrator every season and she's fantastic. You know, Faith was fantastic. Leslie is super sweet. And then all the guys

Like, I mean, I've said it, I said it at the open of the, of the finale reunion show, I think Keith should be the golden bachelor. I think 100%. I mean, and it's like, I love that guy. I love being around him. And the other thing I was saying, I was saying it to a producer, I was like, if my mom met him, I'd be so pumped. Yeah, he's just like he is that guy. Yeah. Like, the most lovely dude in the world.

And like, as kids, all you want is for like. your parents to find someone that's like awesome and fun to be around. So anyways, that's my pitch for Keith. I think that he would be the best Golden Bachelor in the world. It's actually kind of shocking. He isn't the Golden Bachelor coming up. I think it's going to be talked about. I think actually we're going to see people as this next season airs.

And Keith kind of has his moment, especially with who he was even during this reunion show with you. And they're going to go, that's my guy. Well, to be fair, though, it was an impossibility. They had to cast that show before we even did Paradise. So, like, you can't say like... Sure, but it still was a wish that I think all of us... I do too.

But also, there's always next season. There's always next season. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed? Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer. And my mom is a cousin.

So, like, it's not... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer

walks into a comedy club. A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.

Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other,

but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?

Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor? or not. To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed.

There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal glass. The injured were being loaded into ambulances, just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay. Terrorism. Law and order, criminal justice system is back. In season two, we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight. That's harder to predict and even harder to stop.

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And I'm seeing this situation as not that clear. Like I think maybe Jeremy could have been more in the wrong than what people are leading on. How did you get that read? how close were you to the situation? And then how do you formulate your thoughts without being like ingrained into it? Because it felt like the whole cast was on one side and you are the person speaking into the viewership

being like, if you're thinking this way, you're not wrong. A lot of people, that moment resonated with a lot of Bachelor Nation fans. And for the most part, overwhelmingly agreed with what I had to say. And one of the big kind of hits on me was like, why didn't you tell the cast, this is how you felt. And if for being fair, I did. I told, and I won't name cast names,

but I did. I was like, this is going to look so bad. It's going to look really messed up. And if I'm hearing about this, I can't say anything because that would be, I would be overstepping my bounds. But if I've heard about this,

that means everyone knows about it except for the one person that it's about. Like, that's messed up. You need to do something. You're going to look like the girls, like not girls, girls. And for the guys, you're going to look like guys who are defending someone who did something kind of shady.

Yeah. So, yeah, I stand by what I said. And for me, like, at the end of the day, like, I'm just out there trying to call balls and strikes, right? And, like, that was a huge, huge ball. Yeah. And listen, I like Jeremy a lot. I can't believe that that man thought it was a good idea in an interview on camera to call her. like that's wild to me

but listen it was early the girl he was dating was on a date with the not someone else like there's a lot of things that like there's context to it but that was a wild situation it was

uh wells again you made paradise better this year you always have you and I can and I believe that you always will uh again no hit on Jesse I just I don't want to watch Paradise without you being there I think you bring so much

uh depth and comedy and humor and wisdom to the show. Switching gears completely here in the last couple minutes I have with you. Obviously, we did just get done. You just finished the reunion episode that will be airing on Bachelor Happy Hour, a friendly podcast to us

here at the Almost Famous podcast. You did a great job. So tune in to get all the drama. We're going to be breaking down, kind of getting into more details with each couple here at the Almost Famous podcast in just a few minutes. But I wanted to grab you to talk about a few things

that you have going on. You have a new podcast in addition to the Vanity Index podcast, which I am a subscriber and listener to. Thank you. You have a new podcast with IHeart called By Order of the Faithfuls. So rewatch and

break down podcasts of the traders. You were on the traders for not as long as we wanted to see you on the traders, but you got a podcast out of this. So goodness gracious, you're winning. Wells, tell us about it. Yeah, so basically we're watching the first couple seasons, it's myself and Dolores, who was the winner of season three of

Traders, and Tamara, who was on season two of Traders. So it's two housewives and then this idiot. And it's us watching the first three seasons of Traders back with the audience, breaking it down, having people who are on the show, on the show, talking about, you know, everyone's, how they're going about doing the show and whether or not they're doing a good job as being a faithful or a traitor and all that kind of stuff and then obviously eventually

I think early next year season four will be airing and then we'll be watching it in real time with the audience having cast members on the show and continuing that so yeah if you're a fan of the traders which it seems like the entire world is it's a huge show on Peacock

and NBC that you should listen to that show. It's obviously a massive show and I would just wish you would have been there longer because I was watching it for... I was prepared to watch it for a full season. I watched it for, I think, one episode. Another thing you have going on

is it was just announced that The Bachelor is hosting a crazy cool event that you're going to be hosting or co-hosting. It's called The Bachelor Nation Vacation at Sea. It was announced during the Nali, there's going to be some great Bachelor Nation alum there. Why would a listener to the podcast, a fan of Bachelor Nation, want to come on this ship?

What are you going to be doing there? Tell us more. Well, I just got to say I'm impressed that ABC or Warner or whoever's putting this on was able to get all these names because, like, the fact that Jesse's come on a cruise ship is blowing my mind. I mean, it's all the big names. I don't think he has a week free. I know. That man needs to chill out.

I love Jesse so much So yeah You know Jesse's gonna be there I'm gonna be there Hannah's gonna be there And then like Tyler Cameron And like a lot

Joey and Sean Lowe And Catherine Lowe And Kelsey and yeah Like it's amazing How many people They've got to come on this boat And then I think more names Are gonna be released later

So if you're a fan of bachelor nation Like this is gonna be your opportunity To like literally be stuck on a boat With all these people So you're going to get... Seesick. Yeah. So I assume my job is there going to make me bartend one night.

I don't know. But I'll sling some drinks on a cruise on the Lido deck and hang out with all the Bachelornation stands. Again, it's Bachelor Nation Vacation at C.com. We have a podcast out with a representative from the cruise ship talking about all the details, all the fun activities, all the things going to be going on that you can listen on the almost famous thread. too. Well, as in closing, it's been a big week, a week and a half for you. At the almost famous podcast, you want to say congratulations, not only to another successful season of Paradise, you crushed it, and it's just such a pleasure to be a fan of you and watch that, but also congratulations to you and Sarah on three years together. You celebrated your three-year anniversary.

I'll give you the mic. We just had two very successful couples come out of Paradise, Spencer, And Jess and Alex and Andrew, any advice for them after being married for three years? Oh, elope. I loved your wedding. I thought it was great. I know. My accountant didn't love that wedding. Yeah, alope.

Go to France with 10 of your best friends. Save all that money you were going to use for the wedding and put it towards a house. My father-in-law gave me the best piece of advice. And all you need for a successful marriage is to remember two words. And that's yes, dear. So I would give, yes, dear. Yeah. And I will say that a little behind the scenes,

I'm not there at the end of paradise. And the reason why I'm not, well, I am, but here's the behind the scenes. I had to leave early because I went on a golf trip with Ben Higgins. And it's really hard to tell production. Hey, I got to leave early and go play golf. So I left a day early.

so I wasn't there for like the end of the show but and I'm appreciative of that yeah yeah yeah and I was nervous that I was I get paid episodically and I was nervous I wasn't to get paid for that episode

but it was worth it but then lo and behold I'm watching the last episode and if you watch the cast is at the bar and then it'll show like clips of me I am not there but they wanted to make it seem like

I was there you know so then all of a sudden you'll see like a background shot and it's like the other guy who's like been barred I felt guilty about this for about four months that I, but we're good. We're totally good. Let's go.

I want, I'm in the show on the front end, but at the end, I think they were like, it'd be weird if Wells isn't there anymore for like this last thing. So like, they just had shots of me like cleaning a glass. I'm like, oh, yeah. There we go. We made it. Yeah, Wells was nice enough to be a good friend. Oh, that was the best trip. And we got a, we got one coming up.

We got a good trip in two weeks coming up. Welles and I play a lot of golf together. Wells, uh, thanks for joining us today. Thanks for sent down. I know it's been a big day for you. You just literally herded 16 cats on a podcast. And Kathy on a podcast. And you did it successfully.

I was sitting in the back with some of the bosses. And they were just like beaming. You crushed it. You did it. It's worth to listen. Again, it's going to be coming out there on the Bachelor Happy Hour podcast. But don't listen to it too long because we have all the couples sitting down with us here at the Almost Famous podcast coming up.

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