The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - The Bermuda Love Triangle (Love Overboard S1 E3 & 4)

Episode Date: April 1, 2026

DeAnna Pappas is back with Producer Heather to brave the high seas of episodes 3 & 4 of “Love Overboard” on Hulu!We dive deep into the love triangle of Tim, Gia and Beau, which leads t...o a face-off between Beau’s “nice guy energy” vs Tim’s FBoy charm.Leela is stirring the drama, Sade is down in the dumps, and the ship gets wrecked by some new arrivals!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:10 Me too. I was hoping that it would be a big swing for me coming into episode three. And it still is, Heather. Did all of these episodes keep your attention like the first two? It sure did. And I think, you know, my favorite thing about, it's episode three, right? Where it happens, where we get some shipwreckers. That is a new fun element.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I really love and I can't wait for us to dive into. But yeah, I'm also really liking, I thought I might be bored with it, but I kind of love how formatted the show is. And I'm just, I'm anticipating the plank scene. I'm anticipating happy hour. I feel like with some of the other dating shows that are out there, it's so unformatted and so like every single episode is so different. It can be hard to follow. But I'll point out a couple of things in this episode and things that I saw that are obvious rip-offs from other dating shows that are currently out there. But what about you? Is it holding your attention? Are you loving it? I shared in our previous podcast episode that I felt like the first episode was really chaotic. It was hitting every beat. Like, here's where
Starting point is 00:04:16 we are. You're going to live here. You're going to do this. Now clean the floors. Now do this. Now everybody jump up. Make cocktails. This is the top siders, the bottom siders. It felt very spliced up and chaotic. But I actually am really loving now the flow of the show and the way it's going as well as I was unsure with the challenges and then the plank ceremony, how everything was going to incorporate.
Starting point is 00:04:39 But yeah, no, I like really love it. And for a person like me, Heather, like I need to be hooked right away or it's hard for me to get into a show. And I'm all in. Like I'm all about it. The casting is amazing. The show, the boat.
Starting point is 00:04:53 want to go on. I want to like hang out top side. I know. Of course, top side only though. Topside only. I'm not cut out for like washing floors and stuff. I feel like I'm not quite Bella, but I'm not quite Andrew. I like flow somewhere in between. I'm not above scrubbing a toilet, but I don't want to scrub someone else's toilet. And you definitely don't want to do it with a toothbrush. We will have to talk about that scene as well. Let's jump right in. Episode three opens with the cliffhanger from episode two where Sophia and Anna. are on the plank, and Andrew has to make a decision. We know what this looks like.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Andrew chooses to send Sophia overboard, and an Andrew hug, and everyone claps for him. Andrew says he'd rather hold out for new girls to come on the boat. But we flip to later on that night, Karai is coupled with Shaw Day, but tells Lila, when he gets a date, he's taking her. Shaw day knows what's going on. She's strategizing so that she can stay on the top side.
Starting point is 00:05:52 She doesn't particularly strike me as a girl that belongs, you know, on the bottom side. But I don't know. What do you think? She feels like a lot of drama for me. Yeah, we obviously see so much of that play out this episode. I feel like Chadee isn't into anybody. I think that she's really trying to stay on the top side just for the purpose of staying up there. And she's not really a fan of like sleeping in the bunk beds, which who wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:06:20 but I don't think she really has interest in anyone on board. And her personality goes kind of quick from here, there to everywhere when she's upset, which it looks like is kind of a turnoff to a lot of these guys and the girls. So, yeah, I really like Shade. Like, I think she could be fun and I want to see her find a connection. But right now I don't feel like she's actually interested in, anyone. Listen, it doesn't look like a super genuine connection that she has had up into this point.
Starting point is 00:06:55 And I think you're right in saying like, listen, she's a topside girl all the way. Like we can tell that she's a topside girl, but she's also a boss. And I just believe that when you go on reality television in particular, people with that persona tend to be like the drama, unfortunately. And she is playing that part really well. But you're right, the other cast members who are like, you know, falling in love. They're coupling up. There are, there for the good time. It rubs everybody the wrong way. No one wants to be around a Debbie Downer. No, and she, I don't know, we'll get into the scene with Delaney. I don't know if it's this episode or the next one, but that seemed a little bit like doing too much. Like it was an unnecessary kind
Starting point is 00:07:39 of conversation to be having and it just seemed mean-spirited. But what I was going to say is, too about this show. For as many cast members as there are, they're not trying to focus too much on everybody having a storyline every episode, which I think is really good. We have our main storyline, which is whoever is going to end up going to that plank ceremony at night. But some of the other ones, like maybe the happy couples or the ones that are still getting to know each other, we don't get too much screen time with them dependent on the episode. And I think that that's making it easier to follow. Do you feel the same way? I do. I do. Whatever. I mean, I just love this show for so many reasons, but I do feel like it has a very natural flow from a viewership side.
Starting point is 00:08:26 You know what I mean? We're getting little bits of drama. We're getting little bits of love or getting little bits of funny. I just feel like the appeal altogether is really attractive because we get a little bit of everything. It's not, you know, some episodes of other reality shows are really heavy on drama or chaos or. or some of the other things. And I feel like each episode so far, right? We're only in episode three. Each episode so far has done a really good job
Starting point is 00:08:51 of having little even keel bits of small things that are taking place on the boat, which keeps me watching, honestly. I think it's due to the pacing. I think that the show is fast-paced, and that's because it is formatted. It's like we have to get to a plank ceremony every single episode.
Starting point is 00:09:07 You know what I mean? So part of that means moving along the stuff earlier in the day to give that plank, scene, it's dramatic, you know, breath of air so it can, like, expand a little bit. So I like it. I like the pacing of this as well. Yeah. Yeah. Let's move on because this is like right now, you know, last time it was a different couple. This is my new favorite couple. Okay. We've got Tim and Gia. I'm all about it. I see the fireworks going on between the two of them. Tim is going to
Starting point is 00:09:39 continue to shoot his shot with Gia. Gia asks Tim why they would make good life partners. Tim asks Gia if she's scared that he's a boy, which, you know, I mean, come on. Leela goes and tips off Bo. Wait a second. Deanna, life partners, they've known each other since yesterday. I just thought that that was such an interesting. Do you think we would make good life partners?
Starting point is 00:10:07 Does she even know his last name? I mean, I can appreciate the heavy-hitting questions here, Heather, to make sure we're all on the same page. I can appreciate, you know, the goal, the end goal here. Yeah. But I do also find it hilarious that, like, Tim is like, but please, please, please, tell me that I'm not a f*** boy. Tell me that you don't think I am because I'm not. I used to be like yesterday, but I'm not today.
Starting point is 00:10:34 You have changed me. I am a changed man. I don't know. It is kind of funny the way that they are all just like hopping, you know, literally on board right away and filling the roles. But yeah, I mean, part of me, like every time they're saying things like that, I'm like, come on, girl, you barely know this man. And Bachelor World, okay, but like love overboard. Come on, girl. I know.
Starting point is 00:10:56 That's what I'm saying. It's like, are they, is this how, this can't be how like the younger generation talks on dates, right? I actually think it is. I haven't been on a lot of dates. You know what I mean? But I, listen, I did freshly out of divorce, Heather, run through my younger man phase. And it was a lot of fun for a hot minute. But like the 30-year-olds, yeah, were like, it was very, it's where I struggled.
Starting point is 00:11:25 It was very superficial. It was very superficial. Like all of the conversations were pretty lackluster. They were not deep in any way. You know what I mean? And I don't know if it's just because I have gotten so much older. But yeah, I feel like it's just the generation now. But this doesn't seem superficial.
Starting point is 00:11:43 This seems like too heavy. This seems like the opposite of that. That's what I mean. It's like this time she's asking about would they make good life partners? Remember James episode two or whatever being like, are you an effective communicator? I just, I can't think of being on dates with people at their age and those kind of of conversations happening organically. So I'm just wondering people, Gen Ziers, if you're listening,
Starting point is 00:12:12 do you actually talk like this on dates? Because I'm confused. I'm confused. I don't even know how to handle it. Part of me wants to just like overcompensate here and be like, it's reality TV, Heather. Like they have to. They're, you know, all of the things and the other part of me is like, no, no, no, no. That's what they're like nowadays. That's what they're like. I have to tell. I just don't think, I just don't think in my experience of being on set that producers are going in there and telling them things to say to sound smarter than they are. I just think that this is how they're talking and I'm, I'm genuinely confused. Do you think we'd make good life partners? I just met you. Anyways, anyways, you have to tell them about this drama between Lila, Gia, Bo, the whole thing. Well, listen, just when you start to get like a little over-stimulated with the heaviness of it,
Starting point is 00:13:09 we have someone like Lila who comes in just to shake things up. And listen, we have seen this from her from the very first episode. Lila goes and tips off Bo to what's going on, right? She tells him to be more assertive with Gia. And she also tells Bo that Gia is 50-50 on both guys. And listen, we see Bo, he does not like this. I mean, who would? I wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:13:32 but he is clearly like, oh, yeah, no, I'm not playing that game. We see him storm off the side of the boat. He's done with this conversation. He's like, I'm not that guy. Do you think she had good intentions when she was doing this? Or do you think that she just likes to be in the mix? I hate to say it, but I think she likes to be in the mix. And I'm saying that just based on what we have seen since the first episode.
Starting point is 00:13:57 She has done this a couple of times now where she likes to put herself right in the middle and she likes everybody to know what game they're playing. You know what I mean? It doesn't happen to her, but she's doing it to other people. So I actually just think she kind of likes it. She thinks she's in charge. She likes control. It doesn't happen to her yet.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I always think that when we see this happen on shows, there's one person who's mixing it up a little bit, and then they get a taste of their own medicine. And I think that, Lila, you might have it coming with how much of the mixing you're doing on this boat. Bon, bum, bum. Well, it doesn't stop there. Leila then goes on to Gia.
Starting point is 00:14:37 She comes clean about everything that she has just told Bo. Okay, so we see that play out. I don't know. That part I could have done without. I could have done without that part because Gia seems kind of unbothered a little bit. And I don't know if Lila was also just continuing to stir the pot there or she just didn't want it to come back and bite her in the ass. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:57 I don't know. I think she genuinely likes Gia. I think like, I think. I think Lila likes to be liked and wants to like have friends. And I think that as much as she likes drama, I think she was trying to come from a good place, right, with that situation because I think she likes Bo and she was probably like, Bo.
Starting point is 00:15:17 You got to step it up. But I think she wasn't expecting Bo to be like, yo, I'm not into somebody that kind of thinks they're 50-50 on me. So it kind of backfired on her in that moment. And that's when she had to go into overdrive and be like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. not what I meant. And she had to, of course, correct. But I think in that moment, she was coming in a good way versus what she did in the last set of episodes between Bella and Lowe. I think
Starting point is 00:15:44 that that was a little bit more on the mean-spirited side. Yeah, I honestly kind of love that Bo reacted that way, though, because I am like that. Like, we're not, we're not in a place in our life where we're chasing people and making them choose us and forcing them to want to be. with us naturally given especially that situation people should want to be with you so like i kind of have nothing but respect for him being like yeah no no she's not in it i'm like i'm not going there it's not a fight to the death kind of thing like they've have spent some time together at this point she should be able to make a choice one way or the other so i kind of actually at that moment i had nothing but respect for beau in the way that he handled that and the way he just kind of walked away he was like
Starting point is 00:16:26 i'm not going to play the game yeah exactly uh next up we move on to Shade and Keefe. This situation is very interesting to me. I already told you that in our previous podcast. But Keith asks Shadee if she plans to bring him up to the top again. And she says, yes. So we'll see how that one continues to play out. I have all kinds of feels about the two of them. I just don't see it. I just don't see it. You're not the only one. I don't see it either. I don't think that she's, again, Shadee is so gorgeous. But I think that she's at this point of the show, just strategizing. I do not think she's interested in Keefe. I think she does like a probably a more subdued quiet guy. I could see that being her vibe, but I don't think she's
Starting point is 00:17:11 interested in him. No, I believe that I believe that she can run circles around Keefe. And that's why it's not going to work. Like she needs like a grown ass man, like a boss, you know, not to like tell her what to do, but just keep her in check just a little bit. And I don't think Keith is our guy. So I'm just not, I'm just not seeing it. But anyway, we move on and Bo and Gia, they have a tough talk in bed. Bo is upset that Gia didn't come in. She wasn't clear about the situation and she didn't talk to him right away. So we're starting to see some of that unravel as well.
Starting point is 00:17:46 What did you think? Because I remember I said in the last episode, like I thought I could see them going the distance on this. I feel like Gia really didn't like that she hurt his feelings. I thought that what this conversation felt very sincere to me, like that she was really still interested in him. I'm with you. I too think it was really sincere. I do believe that they have genuine affection and concern for each other.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I do. I just believe that it is stronger with Tim. Like I believe with Bo it is that friendship level. They have respect for one another. There is some attraction, but I believe with Tim there is like chemistry. You know the difference? You can like someone and think,
Starting point is 00:18:36 oh, maybe it'll change over time. But I believe with Tim, there is that instant chemistry. Whereas with Bo, they just, they genuinely connect. Like maybe their souls have a purpose together for whatever reason. But I just don't see that,
Starting point is 00:18:48 that undeniable attraction between the two of them. But yeah, I think she like genuinely cares for him and why that's why she probably feels really torn. Because I also think, deep down, she knows the truth that she's probably leaning more towards Tim, but she doesn't want to break it to Bo. And they haven't made it to the plank ceremony. Yes. Nobody knows who's going home. And she doesn't want to leave the top side, but she also kind of likes him and he's hot. So they stay the night
Starting point is 00:19:10 together. You know what I mean? I believe there's all kinds of things that this girl's got to consider at that point in time. I think this is a classic nice guy versus boy situation. Yes. Thank you. I'm so glad you said that. I think that Bo's the nice guy. And he's calm, cool and collected. But he's not, and he's, listen, he set his intentions in the last episode. He sat her down. He said, I'm into you. I'm only into you.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I don't want you to ever question that. Like, I'm being straightforward with you. And Tim has kind of done the same thing. But he's done it in, I hate this term because I don't think the kids use it anymore. He does it in a little bit more of a swaggy way than both does it. And I think being, you know, open and honest about his boy ways, makes it feel endearing to her. Like, oh, he's willing to change his bad habits for me.
Starting point is 00:20:09 And I still think of that maybe not as a red flag, but a pink flag girl. And I think that Bo's the nice guy. But anyways, what do I know? Let's see how this plays out. We got our first challenge of the episode, which is called Diving for Dirt. there are tubes in the ocean full of statements from the topside men that can be either a truth or a lie. And the downside girls can challenge any of the topside girls for their man, essentially. And they have 30 seconds to collect as many tubes as they can.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Whoever gets the most wins. Now, I think it's really funny with these challenges that it's up to them if they want to participate or not. It's not everybody has to play, which I think is really interesting. So Bella takes the opportunity to challenge Anna for Andrew. She does not win. Anna does. It really smokes her in getting all of those tubes. You is throwing it back.
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Starting point is 00:25:37 Search the Cino Show. And listen now. So Lila then challenges Chadeh for Kari. They both move extremely slow getting into the water, which is kind of comical. And they end up tying because they get the same amount of these tubes. So then they have to answer quickly. questions on what's a truth and what's a lie about Karai. And Lila wins and gets to now come to the top side. I like died during this challenge, Heather. Like there was a part of me on the inside
Starting point is 00:26:19 that was just like crying that like the way that they, I don't know if they just didn't want to get their hair wet or if like their mom didn't toss them in the pool at the YMCA when they were really young and they didn't know how to swim. But like it was painful to watch that like neither girl was like dying to catch anything to put it in there. You know, I was just like, oh. I think 100. Neither of them wanted to get wet. And I think that the water was cold.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Like, Leila's face looked like she was freezing when she got into that water. So I think it was a little bit of a mixture of both. But it was very funny because, I mean, clearly Chade does not care for cry. And so she's not like putting in a whole lot of effort. Anna was like, absolutely not. she was not leaving the top side at that moment. So that's the end of the challenge, which means Lila's going to the top side
Starting point is 00:27:10 and now Chaudet has to go to the downside for the first time. So this is where we start to see the unraveling, right? Yeah. This is where it all starts to go down. Shade is going to the downside and has unfinished business with Bella. This kind of makes me laugh so hard. Shade confronts Bella about the situation with Keefe and Bella both, they denies it.
Starting point is 00:27:34 You know what I mean? Bella's confused and thinks that there is no way. Shaw day likes Keith this much. The confrontation brings down all of the vibes on the downside. Keith doesn't like that Chade's attitude is showing up. Bella starts crying again. Shade says that Bella's too dramatic. Shade leaves the table and says that she's not going to film anymore.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Like it just, like, I don't, part of me wonders how much of this was just construed or did this really play? out like this because it didn't feel very fitting because as viewers, we see it pretty early on. You and I were just saying this at the top of the episode. I don't see it between Chate and Keith on either side. I don't see it from her and I don't see it from him. But then, you know, then there's this like this made up drama about Bella going after Keith. I need everybody to back off my girl Bella a little bit. She's just there for a good time. Bella's there for a good time. and she literally has four men to choose from.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Everybody needs to chill out. Like the girl is trying. Lowe has basically, for lack of a better analogy, made David the fire hydrant and she's the puppy. And she is like, that is mine. I have peed all over him. You cannot have him. So David's out of the mix for Bella.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Then she tries to talk to Keefe and Chaudet is now jumping on her when she's not even with him anymore. We see it plain as day that the two of them are not together. They're not vibing. There is absolutely no chemistry between the two. But, you know, sometimes girls just like drama. You know what I mean? You don't want it, but then you want what you can't have.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And you don't want anybody else to have it. Have you ever been in a relationship like that? I know I have early on in my 20s when I was about these girls' age. I didn't want him, but I didn't want anybody else to have him. Absolutely not. I have not been in the situation. I'm so sorry to say. But Shadeh, you're that bitch.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Like, you're so cool and you're so pretty. Like, what? Like, you do not need to be acting like this and you don't need to go after Bella. Like, it just felt like low-hanging fruit and it's like, I'm upset to be here. And now I must pick on somebody. And it was, that was the vibe I was getting. And I'm glad that they end up squashing it later in the episode. and she like took accountability for it.
Starting point is 00:29:58 It sounds like she was very triggered by something that was said in that conversation. But baby, you can't say somebody's being dramatic and then actually get up in the same breath, storm off and say I'm done filming. Because that's like the most dramatic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:14 It was a scene to be had. But you know what? That's fine. We move on to Happy Hour. Heather and Corrine Lila. We start to really get to see the two of them. They like getting to know each. other. Then we've got Gia and Tim. They talk about Tim's past relationship. He says he's ready for
Starting point is 00:30:32 something serious. He says he wants to take her on a date. You know, all the perfect things that we need to hear. And then it hits us, okay? A boat arrives with a woman on it. Delaney. I love this. I love this too. I was not anticipating this, but I love every ounce of this to bring in the new hot bodies, a shipwrecker, let's call her. Delaney 26. She's a mom. model who's very low maintenance. She comes walking in all, what, five foot nine of her, gorgeous lips, hair, the whole thing. From the jump, Andrew is interested. Keefe is interested to meet her too. Lowe says Delaney is up close and acquired taste. David doesn't love these jealous comments. Okay, so then we start to see a little bit between the two of them.
Starting point is 00:31:22 That's super rude. And it was trying to be joky, jokey, jokey, that is low. You're better than that. Okay. I just know you are. And it breathes of insecurity when and sees another woman, you have not conversed with this person. You don't know her. She's been there for five seconds. And you're making a negative comment about her looks. Breathe's insecurity. Don't be that girl. Absolutely. It did just literally like, I don't like that anyway, tearing another person apart anywhere or the other, but it also just starts to show the cracks between the two of them.
Starting point is 00:31:57 You know what I mean? They want to look like that top couple. No one can break them. What did I say? I said this in the last episode. Anybody that is raved as the strongest couple that early on is bound to have some major breakup or flaws. And we do see something else later from David,
Starting point is 00:32:16 which we have to talk about. I cannot wait. I cannot wait. There's so much. There's so much. There's so much. All right, we don't stop there. Okay, another boat arrives with another shipwrecker man on it.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Prasad, he's 26, also so hot. I never heard that name before. I have never heard that name either. Anyway, he's here for the genuine reasons. You know, I love that. Makes me so happy. And he wants to meet his soulmate. He's 26.
Starting point is 00:32:41 God knows he's going to have at least six more. But we see Anna, our girl, Anna, who we love. She's super excited to meet Prasad. Like that's like for her. This is this is moving on, right? Anna's 30, I believe. Margo, can you double check? Can you double check the face sheet you made?
Starting point is 00:32:58 I'm pretty sure that Anna is 30. And so we get into it later, but the other shipwreckers are, she's 33. So these shipwreckers that are coming in are fairly young this episode. I mean, but we're those people who are 30 and over, we're seeing that on this show in particular, they're really significantly older. You know what I mean than some of the other castmates on this show? Yeah, especially the ones that you're talking to. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know, Anna, about the Prasad of it all. It's fine. It's fine. We're going to see more. Let's see, the newbies Delaney and Prasad have to go to the downside. Shade and Bella clear the air. They hug it out.
Starting point is 00:33:47 their best friends again, which is great to see. And Bella says in an interview that she still doesn't trust Shade. Girl, you should not. You should not. Bella is my queen. I mean, honestly, she is the reason I'm watching. And she gives me a Maya papaya from this last season of Love Island was kind of like getting jerked around by different guys and was also constantly crying on the.
Starting point is 00:34:17 of the show. And we were all, so many of us were so invested in her love story. And that is how I'm feeling about Bella because Amaya Papaya kept getting dumped and like kept being the single one in the villa. And all she wanted was to be loved. And finally, this guy came in towards the end. They coupled up. They ended up winning the season. And this is what I'm rooting for for my Bella. I'm rooting for a guy to come in. And at the very end, she makes it to the top side. and she wins this thing. I'm actually like, she is the one now that I'm holding out for this. I'm here for it.
Starting point is 00:34:52 You know what I'm also really loving about this show is that when we were introduced to all of these people on the first episode, my favorites have changed. And I love that about television, if it keeps us on our toes like that. And I really loved in a, you know, when we recorded our first podcast, I was like, she is gold. Like she's everything. She's everything. But the more I'm with you, the more we see Bella and her. personality. She's so funny. And just the way she turns it on and turns it off,
Starting point is 00:35:20 like I'm here for her. I do. I'm with you. And in the end, whatever it looks like, I'd love for her to ride off into the sunset with her night and shining armor and her fairy tale ending at least for like 10 days or something like that. She's so funny. I just, Bella, I love you. You're my favorite right now for sure. We're going to become best friends. I'm going to hang up here and then I'm going to find her on Instagram and I'm going to message her. And I'm going to tell her that like I just, I have a spare room. She can come come and hang out, me and my kids, you know what I mean? Just make it real weird. All right. Tim is rewarded by Gabby. He gets to go on a date with a topside woman of his choice.
Starting point is 00:35:57 So then we go into the next day. Tim comes in all looking handsome and he interrupts breakfast to invite Gia to go on a date. All right. Gia and Tim, they go to a vineyard and stomp on grapes with their feet, super cute, super romantic, feels very lovey. Have you ever done that? I've never, but I liked to drink wine way too much. I wasn't trying to like put my feet in it. I was just like dancing it down my throat. I live a whole new life now, Heather. I've actually never done that. But it was so weird. I mean, I can get the stomping the grapes thing. But when they started to put the grapes on his chest and that's where I checked out, squished them. And then he put them in her boobs and was eating grapes out of her boobs. But then goes in for the kiss and she's like, no, this is where I draw. line. I was like, um, babe. He doesn't just put them in between her boobs. He like takes them. It is a very sexual moment. It's a very, he like takes them and like rubs them down like the crevice in between her breast and like rubs them down. What I'm saying. Gia, Gia, you were shooting a little mini porno just now and you're like, oh, kiss me. Absolutely not. This is where I draw the line.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I draw the line. Feel me up, rub me down, but like you may not put your tongue in my mouth. Absolutely. not, sir. I listen, I was with you, Heather. Because also, given that moment, we are seeing the passion between the two. I kind of wanted to see them, like, stick their tongues in each other's mouths and see if it was there because I feel it as a viewer. But, you know, that's fine. I'll just keep waiting for the love story. I just thought it was so weird. And it was like, it was like she was doing it out of respect for Bo, not kissing him. So then I'm like, okay, I'm right. She's really into Bo. She's really into Bo. Guys, she's not. She's not. Okay, but if, all right, let's play devil's advocate for a second. I don't think she's really into Bo, but I believe out of respect for him and probably the conversations that
Starting point is 00:38:00 they have had that we have not seen, she is not going to do him dirty like that. Like, I can appreciate that. What do you mean she's not going to do him dirty? She just had this guy licking up her chest. Like, what are we talking about? I'm too nice, Heather. I'm just too nice. We just went from rated R. to like a G rating. He's like, I just, it felt so strange. And I was just like, I hope Tim doesn't have like blue balls right now in this situation or whatever is happening because that was just like some major whiplash. Some of the dates are truly very interesting where we look at them and they would be like normal.
Starting point is 00:38:37 And then they just immediately get off the boat, go on a date and they turn into these like R rated scenes in this television show that I'm like, wow, how did they go from point A to point B so quickly? I'm not really following sometimes on some of the dates, but I don't need over-sexualized things to begin with. So it's fine. We see Bo on the yacht. He's super stressed about Gia on the date. He says, if they left the show now,
Starting point is 00:39:05 he'd pursue a relationship with her. So we're seeing that he's really into her, that he really, really likes her. And it was, whatever, I found it really interesting because I don't see that coming from her. I believe that they have a connection, but I don't see that coming from her. I don't believe that it is reciprocated.
Starting point is 00:39:21 But it's fine. We're back to Tim and Gia. He says he's full on lover boy in a relationship. He's 30 years old and ready to retire his boy ways. You know, all the things that every girl wants to hear. She's changed him. All the things that every f*** boy says, Gia, just letting you know.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Come on. She's hook, line, and sinker. She's falling for it. She's stressing out about her plank ceremony. Like, it's all about to go down. So this, for me, was the most anticipated point of the episode, was the plank ceremony. Because I feel like in a matter of moments, it's all about to play out. And I really need this for myself.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Just me, Heather. I need to see it all play out because I believe she's destined to be with Tim. I believe there's a connection between her and Bo, but I don't see the chemistry like her and Tim have. So it's fine. Gia is sad. She's going to be hurting someone's feelings. It's clearly, you know, putting her through torture. She wants to hear what both men have to say on the plank.
Starting point is 00:40:20 She gets super emotional over her decision. Tim and Bo walk the plank. This is the moment that I've been waiting for. Tim pleads to stay. He says all the best moments he's had on board that he's been having with Gia. He's taking a risk for her. Bo says when he saw Gia, everything became real.
Starting point is 00:40:40 He's only had eyes for her. He would never, ever lie to her. her than the big shocker. Were you devastated? Gia sends Bo. I was actually shook. And I make these shows for a living. I should have seen this coming from a mile away,
Starting point is 00:40:55 but I thought, there's no way she is going to send Bo overboard. She hasn't even kissed Tim. But then I thought about it later, and I thought, has she even kissed Bo? I feel like they have. I feel like they have. But now that you say that,
Starting point is 00:41:11 but we see them really cozy in, the bedroom on the top side. Like they are definitely canoodling and stuff. I remember those moments where they're like definitely on top of each other and like, you know, feeling each other. But yeah, now that you say that, I'm not sure I've seen a real kiss. Whatever, Heather, I was not shook. I thought the whole time she was choosing Tim. And again, I just don't know if it was because I saw some physical chemistry that I did not see with Bo. But I was sad for our boy, Bo. I mean, they had this whole plan about getting to the top side together. They had a mission. They made it happen. And then it's just, guys, tail is oldest time. Nice guy versus fuck boy. She shows the boy. And I really
Starting point is 00:41:58 hope this doesn't come to bite her in the ass later. You know what it is. It's the safe against like the fun. Like it just, it always wins. Bo was a safe bet. I think she liked him, but he was a safe bet for her. Tim was the iffy one, and that's where she went. But I mean, she's clearly torn up over it. She cries. Tim promises he won't hurt her.
Starting point is 00:42:19 You know, we get that whole, like, just that whole thing. I expect nothing less from Tim to promise her that he won't hurt her. I expect nothing less. Until somebody new shows up, Gia, I just watch out, Gia. You said it, not me.
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Starting point is 00:45:59 And plenty of, did they just say that moments? Listen to Between Us on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I went and sat on the little ottoman in front of him. And I was, hi, Dad. And just when I said that, my mom comes out of the kitchen. And she says, I have some cookies and milk. This is this badass convict. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Just finished five years. I'm going to have cookies and milk at mom. Yeah. On the Ceno Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience, and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon, Danny Trail, talk about addiction, transformation, and the power of second chances. The entire season two is now available to Bench, featuring powerful conversations with the guests like Tiffany Addish, Johnny Knoxville, and more. I'm an alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:46:57 And without this trouble, I'm going to die. Open your free I-Heart radio app. Search the Cito Show and listen now. Episode 4. I am like full-on, like just obsessed with this show. I could not get enough. I told you I binged all four episodes in like my first sitting. So episode four starts with Tim being happy to be back on the top side.
Starting point is 00:47:28 I bet he is happy. Bro's about to live his best life. At this point, though, we've only had two people at this point, right, who have not been to the downside. And that's David and Lowe. Yes. Right? They're the only ones who have maintained being on the top side this whole time.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Well, we're going to get to it later this episode. and it goes down to the downside. But they're the only ones after episode four who have stayed there the whole time. But we're still seeing Dave, we're still seeing David and Lowe that they're really cozy up there. It's not really shaking up yet. Like they're really, really cozy. They're very happy together. I think one's cozier than the other.
Starting point is 00:48:08 And I think one's happier than the other. I think you are right. You are seeing things very clearly, Heather. I am with you. Delaney and Keith. They're talking now. We found, we find out that Keith doesn't drink. I kind of saw this as a person who doesn't drink.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I saw it from episode one. Like he never has a cocktail. He's never at 10. And I thought for myself, you know, as I'm like plotting in my own head, how I'm going to get on love overboard. I thought, how is this guy keeping up? You know what I mean? Like hanging out with all of these people, not drinking alcohol. He's not into the drama.
Starting point is 00:48:43 When the stuff gets like, you know, all shaky, he kind of sees himself out of the drama. But anyway, he's a cop. He's a cop. I'm so surprised that he shared that with everybody. I don't know. He's looking for someone with similar morals and beliefs to him, which is very interesting given his situation. I find it fascinating for a man who does not drink.
Starting point is 00:49:09 He's a police officer to go and live on a yacht for the summer and date on reality television. Like what did his leave of absence? look like, Heather? It's not typical to get cops on reality TV, that's for sure. I will say, I think I've gotten a couple of firefighters, a couple of EMTs on shows, dating shows, specifically. I've called firehouses and shared casting information, and they're pretty gung-ho, usually at the fire department. They like this stuff. Cops, that's a different situation. It makes me wonder, what kind of cop he is.
Starting point is 00:49:50 We don't really get into that too much. It makes me wonder, yes, if he was, maybe he's an active cop, but was, you know, taking a leave of absence to try and figure some things out in his life and this opportunity came about. Because how does he go back? Well, you have to ask permission to, from your job to take off for a show. And usually they want to know what it is. And, you know, with the police department, I'm sure they would.
Starting point is 00:50:18 would be critical in wanting to know, you know, the name of the show, the vibe and all that kind of stuff and being very adamant, probably about him never saying exactly where he's a cop at. He came across pretty stoic to me for a cop. I would have thought cops are a little bit more gregarious and just like kind of macho. I don't know. That's like a really terrible. I actually disagree, Heather. I have a lot of friends who are married to cops. And not that they can't be that, but I actually find them to be a little bit more reserved, introverted, stoic, especially in group scenarios like that, especially in group scenarios like that. I don't know if that's just part of their persona or, you know, protecting.
Starting point is 00:51:09 their career in a way, or given the day and time that we live in currently, you know what I mean? But yeah, I actually found it very, very fitting. His personality matched for me. We have some interesting careers on this ship to, you know, besides the model influencer, we also have David. We didn't talk about his career. He works with children that have mental health issues. I also found that very fascinating. My children are in therapy. And if I happened to pop on love overboard and saw my daughter's therapist fighting for love in this situation, I would be like, huh, I'm questioning all my life choices and where my paychecks are going. But didn't you also think it was interesting that in the same breath where he was like, yeah, I work with children that have mental health issues.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And then I like to party at night. And I like girls with big, fake boobs. Yeah. Yeah, I absolutely was like. Huh. I'm thinking twice about this. I mean, we are all multifaceted human beings. And if David, like, has this incredibly rewarding career and that's how he blows off steam at the end of the day, that's great. But it was very fascinating to have a cop, a mental health specialist amongst, you know, models and influencers.
Starting point is 00:52:29 And pretty surprised we don't have any professional athletes or former professional athletes on the boat. But maybe that's coming. that's usually another job that we tend to see in the dating show realm. Yeah, yeah, those people who are literally in between jobs. It's fine. Everything is fine. Keefe is going to write off under the sunset. He's just a doll, my sweet little reserved man.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Chaudet is irritated by the whole situation. I don't know if you recognize that. She is irritated by Keefe and Delaney talking. She thinks that Keefe should show her a little respect. And we know our girl, Shaday. she's a little bit demanding when it comes to all of these things. But Tim and Gia, they have their first kiss. It finally happens for the two of them.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I'm like all about it. I was kind of awkward. I couldn't stop looking at how sweaty Tim was. I don't know. I didn't mind it. I didn't mind it. And I couldn't stop looking at how flippy his hair was on the ends. Like it's a very interesting hair.
Starting point is 00:53:38 haircut that the young men are all rocking these days. It's, you know, it's tight and then it's flippy. It's kind of molliedy. It's kind of not. And I was just like noticing like all the flippy ends and the sweatiness. And I was like, I don't know. I don't know about this. Oh, I'm all about it. I'm all in. I'm invested in their relationship. I'm invested in their connection. I'm all about it, Heather. I don't see it. I'm rooting for Bella. the one I'm rooting for. You're just going to stick to your girl. That's so fine.
Starting point is 00:54:12 I'm sticking to Bella. I think I got to believe that that girl finds something. Well, I hope so, because I need more of her. I'm not ready for her to go home. And if there is a plank ceremony and she has to jump, I'm not ready for it. I might have to quit. I will not be okay. That can't happen.
Starting point is 00:54:27 It's fine. The drama doesn't start there. We see Chaudet. She confronts Keith. She wants to know if they still have a connection. And he says that they can be friends, which catches her completely. off guard. I expect nothing less from Chaudet. She is going to be thrown off by this because I think she's just trying to find, you know, her place and there really isn't one for her at this moment,
Starting point is 00:54:50 which I believe is where a lot of the drama comes from, but it's fine. Low is in it to win it. She's already dreaming of a life off the boat with David. And Tim and Gia, they go to bed for the first time. Tim isn't really interested in having sex. our f*** boy here. He's not interested in having sex on the boat while Gia says that she's a very sexual person, but she also doesn't really want to have sex with him on the boat. Which means we're going to be seeing them having sex in a closet next week. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:55:24 And that is a intentional edit to put in that somebody says that they're not going to have sex so that they can show them having sex in like a future episode. like you too stop like they're both like just as hot as they are the way she's laying there in a little top they've been drinking and he's taking her her cassidia from her and he's like we're not going to do this right now and she's like yeah absolutely not but like i love it so like we're not going to but like in two days when we get off the boat let's do it yeah no like we're going to be seeing them sneak into a closet think that there's no cameras forget that they're miced and that that's where it's going to be.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I am holding on to every single breath. Watch out, guys. I'm usually right about this stuff. Yeah. Okay, so if you thought the drama with Chaudet was done, we have more. This moment for me is so cringe. She basically tries to tell Delaney that she can have Keith because she's looking for someone more into art and literature, which Delaney totally takes as a dig at her as well, which
Starting point is 00:56:33 I actually kind of saw it that way. So many things about this fight. I'm also like, come on, girl. Like, there's just too much drama. We don't have to do this. Delaney's barely been there for like two seconds. Let her wash her face. She's clearly in that tiny bathroom,
Starting point is 00:56:46 just trying to get her makeup off for the night, get a little bed rest. And I don't know if she knows where Delaney is from, but I would have been offended as well. She is literally saying, like, Keith is not intelligent enough for her. He's not, you know, revolutionized or whatever. I would absolutely take offense to that
Starting point is 00:57:05 because they are both from small towns out in the middle of nowhere, whatever. I would take offense to that. But I also love that Delaney didn't back down. She didn't. And also, let's be so for real, Chaudet, there was no good intention with that conversation. You had no right to go up to her and be like, girl, by the way, you can have him. He said he didn't want you, girl. Like five seconds ago, you were like, hey, so we're still good, right?
Starting point is 00:57:32 Like, we still have a connection. and he was like, no, we can be friends. You have no right to then go up to the girl and be like, by the way, girl, just let you know, you can have him. No, no, no, no, no. Shade, no. No. I also love that our girl Bella comes in.
Starting point is 00:57:49 And she's like, girl, put it to rest. Shade, come on in here. Tuck yourself in bed. Leave that poor girl alone. We're not doing this tonight, honey. This is not a tonight conversation. For somebody who keeps getting called dramatic, I mean, we need to like be holding up a mirror shoday because Bella is the one coming in here to diffuse the bomb.
Starting point is 00:58:11 I'm so attached to these people, Heather, I cannot help it. I am so attached to each one of these people. And when that moment happened and then I'm literally, I love also is it, will you tell me, is it the fourth dimension, fourth whatever, where we see it's playing out on that little tiny camera in the bathroom? Oh, breaking the fourth wall. Yes. Wait, was playing on a little camera in the bathroom? You see it like playing out from a camera that they have placed in the bathroom because Delaney was in there.
Starting point is 00:58:44 She's trying to get ready for bed. Then you've got Chaudet. We're seeing her face that she's like making all this conflict and we're seeing the back of Delaney's head. And then we see Bella come in in the doorway and she's like, girl, girl, hey, hey, tonight's not the night, honey. Let's go night night. It's less about breaking the fourth wall in that scene and we're just actually being a fly on wall and that's because those rooms are so small that they have to use cameras in the corners because a camera crew can't fit in those rooms with the talent. That's why they have to have
Starting point is 00:59:13 stationary cameras set up. I actually like really love it because it does make me feel a part of the drama. I feel like I'm in there and I'm a part of the drama and I am just to fly on the wall and I'm getting to watch every last bit of it take place. It's fine. Delaney goes in. She works the She gets some, you know, some comfort from Keefe, and we can see the spark start to fly between the two of them. They're, like, moving on in the right direction. Celebrate your pride with the station that's as bold, vibrant, and diverse as you are. I heart pride Canada.
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Starting point is 01:00:12 With IHeart Pride Canada. Hi everyone. I'm Cheryl Stray, author of Wild and Tiny Beautiful Things. I'm excited to share that I have a new podcast called Mind Over Mountain. In each episode, I interview athletes, adventurers, and adrenaline seekers to discuss the inner landscapes and life experiences that informed and inspired their extraordinary feats. I also bring a bit of advice into the mix so we too can better understand how to face our own seemingly insurmountable challenges. Do you know what I'm going to do? I'm
Starting point is 01:00:47 going to pull out what you already have inside. We're coming into this world fighting for our lives. All I'm going to do is pull out what you already got inside. We're there to support and celebrate each other. And that's not like your story versus my story. You're going to walk up and over that dang mountain. You're not just going to put your mind over it. Yep. Yep, exactly. And if I can't walk up and over it, I'm going to go through it. Listen to Mind Over Mountain every Thursday on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you listen to podcasts about AI and tech and the future of humanity, the hosts always act like they know what they're talking about and they are experts at everything. Here, the Nick Dick and Poll show, we're not afraid to make mistakes.
Starting point is 01:01:29 What Coogler did that I think was so unique. He's the writer-director. Who do you think he is? I don't know. You meet the, like, the president? You think Canada has a president? You think China has a president? Those law crusette.
Starting point is 01:01:45 God, I love that thing. I use it all the time. I wrap it in a blanket and sing to it at night. It's like the old Polish saying, not my monkeys, not my circus. Yep. It was a good one. I like that saying. It is an actual Polish saying.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Yeah. It is an actual poem. Yeah. Better version of Play Stupid Games win stupid prizes. Yes. Which, by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift, who said that for the first time. I actually, I thought it was.
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Starting point is 01:04:09 Open your free I-Heart radio app. Search the Cito Show. And listen now. The next day, we see the Downsiders Cleaning toilets with toothbrushes. Heather, I knew that you loved this. It felt like somebody said, like, you don't clean a toilet with a toothbrush unless you're in prison. And I was like, yeah, this is giving weird prison vibes right now. Like, I know that they were doing it for the scene.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Like, those aren't their toothbrushes and that's not how toilets get cleaned on a super yacht. But I was like, why are we doing this? Why are we doing toothbrush toilet cleaning scene? Like, ew. Oh, it makes for great television. But it gives us a good scene of Lexi and James trying to strategize, which, again, we love the strategy of this game show because that's what makes it so different and fun. Because they're vibing down below. they know they can't win the show this way, like with them just being down. So they have to
Starting point is 01:05:15 strategize to get up to the top together. And I do kind of love seeing this little moment between them. I told you, I love them. I have so many favorites. I can't keep them straight. But I like love the two of them. Yeah. Love them, little kitty pies. I can't wait to get a little more of them. And I hope that they make it to the top side because I want to see more of an intimate part of their relationship. because remember, he was not having sex when he came onto the boat. Yeah, however long that was. He doesn't really say how long his celibacy streak was. I think it's safe to say, though, that David and Lowe are not having a celibacy streak,
Starting point is 01:05:53 and I found it extremely weird that I can't even remember who he says this to. Just randomly, he says on the boat to another guy that he's had sex with Lowe multiple times, but he's never orgasmed. And he thinks that sexual compatibility is important. I would be flabbergasted if he said that about me on camera on a gigantic show. And they producers keep playing this up, right? So we're seeing David saying some stuff behind her back, whether it's the, he doesn't like the negative comment she made about Delaney, whether it's now that, you know, their sexual compatibility isn't great. while we're seeing low in every other scene being like, he's my man, I can't wait until we're off this boat,
Starting point is 01:06:41 which is just, you guys, I'm so sorry. This is a huge, huge setup for them to fail. They are going to fail as a couple. They are not going to make it. And it's because of the way they are showing this playing out that this is, I already see the writing on the wall. The writing's on the wall with these two. I'm not just embarrassed for her, though. Heather, he's too young to not be having orgasms.
Starting point is 01:07:07 At his age, it's a pretty done deal. So I'm also slightly embarrassed for him that he is saying that they have done this multiple times and he's not orgasmed. Yeah, but you know he's saying that in the way that he's not taking it responsibility for his own body. Oh, for sure. Does he strike us as a guy that would be like, oh, man, I should see a doctor? Absolutely not. Of course it's the woman's problem. He's a mental health person.
Starting point is 01:07:31 he should be a little bit more sensitive with this. Sorry, David. Oh, that was my first ick. Maybe not my first, but it was like an ick with David for sure. He said he was your favorite last episode. I can't with this. I have changed my mind. I told you I'm in love with other people now.
Starting point is 01:07:49 I have moved on from David. He is no longer the apple of my eye. I have moved on. I'm ready to see David on the downside now. After this comment, I'm like, maybe you should go take a toothbrush. and get to some toilets pretty soon. I think that your turn is coming.
Starting point is 01:08:06 I think you've been on the top side a little too long. Yeah, he's getting a little too cozy. It's so fine. All is well. Two new hot men come, Heather. This has become just the highlight of the episodes for me when we get new contestants on the show. I'm all about, let's see what they look like,
Starting point is 01:08:23 let's see how young they are, let's see what they have to offer. And we get these two hot guys riding the boat. I love this scene where they're coming in on these little tiny boats, Heather, and they're on the front and they're stretched out and their abs are flexed. They're so happy. They're just like their hair is blowing in the wind. We get to see Bradley and Jake coming in, hot as can be. Okay, Jake is 23, Heather. I almost felt gross watching Jake. He's so young. I'm 44, so what is? I'm 21 years older than him.
Starting point is 01:08:54 It almost felt gross for me, just for me, to watch this young adult. coming in half naked. It's fine. He's a personal trainer. Of course he is. Did you see his abs? He's bold. And if he wants a woman,
Starting point is 01:09:10 he's going to get her. At 23, honey, you should. Listen, Bradley's not that much older. The two of them are two peas in a pod. Bradley is only 25. I was like, where did they find these two?
Starting point is 01:09:23 Of course they have all the free time in the world to film a reality show right now. They're like barely in their 20s. Exactly. Bradley says that he's kind of been a slut lately. At least he's keeping it real. But he's ready for a relationship at 25. And he's looking for an emotional connection, Heather. Are you buying? Absolutely not. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Anybody that has the self-awareness to call themselves a slut is happy about that. And he is not looking for anything serious. These are the things that men say because they think that's what women want to hear. And ladies, we have to stop accepting these kinds of things because these are two gigantic red flags rolling up on this ship together. That is exactly what it is. Anybody who calls himself a slut is not calming down anytime soon, very much enjoying that space that he's in. He is in his learning era. I have to say, though, that we get into this next challenge, which is called Hearts of Darkness, this is a straight up for anybody who watches Love Island.
Starting point is 01:10:34 This is a straight up rip off of the heart rate challenge that we see every season on that show, which is a big thing. On Love Island, they make everybody take turns to get their heart rate up, and it is a full-on challenge between the entire cast. Again, on this show, because there's a prize to be won of getting on the top side, only people who are willing to challenge the top side men, get involved in this challenge. So for Lowe, James is willing to challenge David. Lila, Keefe, and Bradley are both willing to challenge Karai. For Gia, no one is willing to challenge Tim,
Starting point is 01:11:15 so she's not in it. Why bother? And for Anna, Jake and Persad are willing to challenge Andrew. So the challenge will be that the two new men have to play in this game as well. But Each topside woman will be blindfolded and be connected to a heart rate monitor to determine how turned on they get. Whichever guy clocks the highest heart rate wins. Obviously, Bella is salivating, by the way. She's not involved in this challenge, but poor thing really wants to be. And then there's this like weird perfume integration.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Heather, what is that? Is that just product placement? Is that what that was? It did not fit for me. It felt like they dropped right there. I was like, what? It's a commercial. So they had to say scent bird so many times.
Starting point is 01:12:04 They had to show scent bird logo so many times. And that's because Centbird paid to have their commercial within the show versus on the outsides because you're not skipping through an integration when you watch it. So that's a more premium spot to be featured. Just like we're not getting alcohol placement on this show, but that is something that you tend to see on a lot of these dating shows. they'll be sponsored by an alcohol brand and then you just see them drinking that the entire season. So yeah, that was a weird.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Weird. It was weird for me too. Because then they start spraying the perfume on their dicks. And it was like, so weird. So strange. So strange. So very. So low is up first.
Starting point is 01:12:49 David straddles her, picks her up, licks her up, licks her all over her body and her toes. A little uncomfy with that. James takes off his belt and ties her up with it. He was really trying to do something with that. I don't think it worked. Next is Lila. She has Keefe. He uses a duster on her body,
Starting point is 01:13:12 which is not sexy and kind of gross. It was weird. It was very strange. Keith, it made it look like you were not sure what to do at all. Bradley is next. This is weird. He's just been on this boat for five seconds and he's already shirtless
Starting point is 01:13:34 and grinding this woman that he does not know at all. And the best part is that Bella is watching and she likes what she sees. Bella is like getting really turned on by watching him grind on another woman. Can I just for a second, I don't like when shows do this. Like I live my life very much like
Starting point is 01:13:54 a woman in the streets. of a freak in the sheets. Is that how, is it Luda who tells me that's how I need to live my life? Yeah. These things like this make me so uncomfortable, Heather. Like, if I was there in person, I just could not participate. There's no way I could sit in a chair and allow Keefe of all people because he doesn't ooze that sex appeal for me to use a duster on my body. I would be so, so uncomfortable with this entire scenario. Like, It's a fine line of like we're porn stars or we're reality stars for me. It's a very fine line.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Yeah, it's definitely uncomfy for sure. But like I said, it's so strange that so many shows are doing this exact challenge now over and over again. Next is Corai. And he says that they haven't even kissed. Lila and Cori haven't even kissed yet. but she kisses her all over her neck and she's like into it. Then is Anna and Andrew kisses her and picks her up and she's kind of like, whoa, over it. And then Jake, let's remember Jake is 23, Anna is 33.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Jake picks her up, licks her chest. Again, he's been here for five seconds. At 23, though, go big or go home, Heather. I guess so. We close out, though, on Prasad. He says his strategy is sexy, scary, which actually made me laugh out loud when he said that. Like, sexy scary, it's like he,
Starting point is 01:15:39 he, like, jolted her, and then he kind of, like, dropped her, and then it's like, it was just so ridiculous. But then he has to go on and says, he has been told that he looks like a vampire. And then he starts biting at her neck. And I was just losing it. I was laughing so hard. The scene was hilarious.
Starting point is 01:16:00 And then Andrew saying in interview that he thinks that the only reason Persad got her heart rate up was because he was scaring her. So funny. It was just so funny. If anybody, you know what, would have worked on me is not even anything sexual, but if somebody came and tickled me in this situation. And I'm blindfolded. My heart rate probably would have been pumping, like, crazy. Like, if I'm blindfolded and I don't know who's tickling me and I don't know how long it's going on, I'm actually probably going to laugh so hard and then my heart rate's going to be up.
Starting point is 01:16:38 And then I'm like, like, I'm very ticklish. It's weird. It's so strange. Oh, my God. I love it. Well, now we all know. Now we all know how to really get you riled up, Heather. The challenge results are for low David wins.
Starting point is 01:16:53 fine. For Lila, Kari wins. Okay, fine. But for Enna, Prasad wins. It's just this sexy, scary thing. And so, again, Anna is faced with this, you know, thing. Is she going to follow her current match, which is Andrew, who she's not in a relationship with, but she has a friendship with.
Starting point is 01:17:16 She's going to follow him down to the downside. Or is she going to stay with Prasad? Now, the last time she had this choice, she stayed up top. because she did not want to give that up. She shockingly chooses to go to the downside. I was shocked. I was shocked. She's definitely a top side kind of girl.
Starting point is 01:17:33 But she, what I think it really comes down to is like she didn't like Prasad that much. Like Andrew, she could tolerate. Prasad she was not having. It must have been that hair flip in the back. You know what I mean? She's not having any part of that. You didn't want to wake up in the middle of the night getting scared, I think, is what happened.
Starting point is 01:17:52 She didn't want to have a scary part two in the sheets. So Persad then gets to choose who to bring up to the top side with him and he chooses Delaney because they arrived at the same time. He literally knows no one. Lowe and David, Lowe says David has made her like physical touch. And Lowe starts to ask about what it would be like off the boat. And Persaud and Delaney, Delaney says that she doesn't like cocky guys and has mostly dated guys like Prasad. She doesn't say that to his face, but that's kind of, you know, what she's saying in her interview. All right. Next up in the episode is we see the happy hour.
Starting point is 01:18:32 I kind of look forward to the happy hour because we get to see a little play between the top siders and the downsiders, you know what I mean? Keith pulls Delaney for a chat. Delaney feels the closest to him and enjoys getting to know him. She tells Keith she's not interested in Prasad. Not that I thought she was interested in Prasad. I'm not not seeing it at all, but I kind of also don't see it between Keith and Delaney. Like, it's like they're both two scared little young adults. I'm not seeing the attraction, but it's got to be better than Prasad, because I for sure don't see that.
Starting point is 01:19:07 But that leads us into the next scene, which I'm like dying on the inside because it shows them at bedtime. And Delaney asks, Persad, she says, I want to sleep alone in the bed. She does not try to snuggle him. And he, I think if I remember correctly, there was a moment where he was like, oh, no, no, we'll just sleep. I'm not trying to take your clothes off. And she's like, yeah, duh, duh. I'm also not going to allow you to do that. But like, I'll take the king size bed to myself. Persad gives me Andrew with long hair. Like, it's just like he's a modely hot guy who the lights are on, but maybe nobody's home. Prasad, I feel like you're probably a cool guy, but that's how they're showing you on this show.
Starting point is 01:19:51 I also think the same thing that he gave very much off like Andrew. Like he says that he likes Delaney, that he's feeling it. He clearly is seeing something there that's not there at all. I'm just amazed when guys do this, that they don't read the room clearly or that they are so self-absorbed that they don't quite see the signs and the writing on the wall. Those are the ones that you have to be really black and white with. Totally, totally. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:18 But then we see the downsiders cleaning and speaking of not getting the vibes. Like Bella is really interested in Bradley and she's like thinking she's playing it cool. And he's like, yeah, she's kind of like a sister. I know. And listen, they're working that whole scene in the hallway. And you can see our girl Bella. We love her. Just batting her eyes, looking all cute, talking to him.
Starting point is 01:20:48 and she says, I'm trying to play it safe. She's not going to lay it all on table. She's not going to come on strong. But I believe that this is biting her in the ass, really, at the end of the day, because she, I think she really, really wants him. I think we're going to see a turn. I think we're going to see a friends-to-lover situation. I'm calling it now.
Starting point is 01:21:08 With him, with that sweet little baby, she's going to rock him like a baby at the end of the night. I think that Bradley might have a little friends to love. lover's moment with her. Well, I can't wait to see how that plays out for our girl, Bella, but Keith gets the text from Gabby saying that he gets to go on a date with a topside woman of his choice, right? So we know, I know. I don't know if you know, but I know, Keith chooses Delaney for the date. I'm still not seeing it, Heather.
Starting point is 01:21:39 I'm not seeing it. They go on a date. They do some pottery. And here we are in another date on this show, and they have to over-sexualize it, right? It can't just be a date where these two people go. they make some pottery and they have a good time. It's got to be over-sexualized. And I just don't quite understand it.
Starting point is 01:21:54 I felt weird watching. I think it's funny. It's all in humor. And like I just, I just wonder personally what it's like in the edit day when they're making these because you know that the editor is like, oh, okay, choose shot of finger going into clay. Choose finger going into clay again.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Choose weird words like. deeper. Overlay when Keith moans loudly. Like, come on. Like, you know it wasn't probably sexual or funny or anything in the moment, but it's just, I give my hat to you the editors of this show because you're really making some funny scenes happen. And I know that that's what, this was a whole edited scene to make it look like that. It really was. It's fine. We get to see more of Keith and his story during this situation. And it was kind of nice to get a little bit more of his backstory. He talks about why he became a cop and how he's ready for a wife and kids. And it's the first time I really felt like as a viewer that Delaney shows genuine interest. Before that,
Starting point is 01:23:02 it didn't feel like that. It just felt like she was playing a part. She's on a show. But this is the first time that I see like she shows genuine interest in Keefe, which I don't know, Maybe we'll see something play out between the two. I don't know. Do you see it? I think that she is like, okay, out of the guys here, this is the guy that I vibe with the most until somebody new shows up. Yeah. Like, that's how I think she's like playing it.
Starting point is 01:23:27 She's like, I'm not into this presade guy. Everybody else seems to be kind of coupled up with somebody. So I'll stick with this guy for now. I think that's the vibe I'm getting. Yeah. Yeah, I'm kind of with you there. It's fine. They get back to the boat.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Here we are. We've got another plank ceremony. it's Keith and Prasad, they walk the plank. Keith talks about them being very comfortable and compatible and that he loved their date. Prasad says that Delaney's beautiful on the inside and the out because he spent, you know, six hours with her so he should know. He sees a future for them off this yacht and I'm like, Prasad, you're one in the same, my friend. But it's fine. Delaney sends Prasad straight overboard.
Starting point is 01:24:09 It was not in his future, poor guy. I think we all knew that watching and it sounds like the cast knew too because they said as they were walking up they were like we have to act surprised or something by the results. So everybody was hooting and hollering for Keefe, Keefe, Keefe, they kept going. So I think everybody knew that this was kind of like a done deal. I kind of died though like after Prasad dumps overboard and then Keefe is done. And the first thing that he does is he flexes towards all the guys on the balcony. He doesn't run to Delaney and hug her. and kiss her or tell her how sweet she is. He literally like flexes his biceps to the men on the second
Starting point is 01:24:48 level. What's wrong with guys? What's wrong with them? Anyways, another successful set of episodes from Love Overboard. Guys, please tell us in our comments or on our DMs, are you loving this show? What do you love about it? What are you not liking about it? Who are you rooting for to win this season? I'm still rooting for Bella to make a comeback. That's who I'm rooting for right now. I'm on it for Lexi and James. I'm not sure if you saw the preview, but we get a little lap dance, something going down in the hot tub, and I'm ready for it. Okay. We'll have to talk about that next episode as well as it looks like we get two more female shipwreckers joining. I feel like the boat's getting a little crowded. We might be doing a double elimination or something. It's starting. Is the boat getting rocky, Heather? I think it's getting rocky. I think it's getting rocky. I think it's getting
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