The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - The Juiciest Housewives Season Ever (Real Housewives of Rhode Island S1 E2)
Episode Date: April 6, 2026Ben is back with Ashley’s sister Lauren Iaconetti to recap the next episode of the Real Housewives of Rhode Island and things are getting JUICY! Lauren reveals why this season is unlike any othe...r Housewives franchise, with secrets coming out and more raw authenticity than the other seasons. Plus, we’re talking “alleged” affairs that are ongoing and the identity of Kelsey’s elusive boyfriend.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast, where today we are back breaking down episode two of the Real Housewives of Rhode Island with the incredible, spectacular, co-esuitable.
host of mine, Lauren, welcome back.
Hello, thank you for having me back.
It was so much fun last week.
I have to keep coming back.
You know, I don't think I've ever felt like the almost famous podcast has gotten such
positive feedback than when we announced you as the co-host for the Reveal Housewives of
Rhode Island.
The engagement on that Instagram is popping off, guys.
You really are the difference maker.
I don't know what that says about myself.
Ashley gets a lot of love, but you're crushing it.
It may be the fact that people really want to know we have to say about Ashley on TV again,
but we can make it about ourselves if we want.
Well, we can make it about us.
But I do actually want to make it about your dad.
My who?
Your dad.
Okay.
So I have been able to talk to Ashley in the interim between episodes and life.
And she mentioned to me, I was, I'm curious.
Your dad's a fantastic man.
I've known him, met him,
just enjoy being around him.
And I was like, actually, does he watch this stuff?
And when he does, kind of how is he watching it?
Is he like weirded out or what?
And she said, you got to ask Lauren about that.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I haven't watched Housewives with him,
but I would watch Bachelor.
And like, his normal, like, reaction is always just smacking his head,
like, smacking his forehead, like every time she says anything.
but I mean, I think he thinks it's hilarious.
I mean, he's very proud of her.
This is huge.
But he doesn't really say much, but he'll, like, laugh at it.
I'm sure it's very weird to see.
He doesn't really speak that much.
He doesn't really speak that much, okay, guys?
Like, he's very smart and kind and amazing.
We love him.
But, like, I don't really know what's going on in his head a lot of the time.
But, like, when he smacks his head, I know he thinks it's hilarious.
So that's a reaction.
There's, like, just some moments.
I mean, for the most part, Ashley has had no embarrassing moments or even moments that as a, I think as a dad, you'd be like, oh, my gosh, I cannot believe she's saying this or doing this.
Yes.
Yeah, because, like, a lot of people that go on dating shows and stuff like this are absolutely absurd.
And they're talking about, like, you know, having sex with tons of people and all this stuff and they have to be kind of semi ashamed.
And all she's saying in this episode in particular is like, yeah, I didn't have sex until I was 29, you know?
It's like, okay, that's a much easier watch than a lot of the other people.
You know, like, I'm a little concerned for like Joellen or Rosie's dad when they're talking about like penises and stuff.
Yeah, 100%.
You're spot on.
Have you, okay, you followed along.
You obviously have the inside scoop.
Yeah.
I'm watching the real housewives of Rhode Island.
Is it normal for so many women to have so many different secrets?
Okay.
So I had a client this morning who is the most diehard real house.
Housewives fan knows everyone from every franchise goes to BravoCon.
And she said that this has been the most juicy first season of any Housewives.
And she was like, I can't believe these Rhode Islanders have so many secrets.
It's so juicy from the jump.
And I'm like, wow, the other seasons must be really, really boring.
Because it usually builds up to that drama.
But I guess the fact that they're very open about their relationship drama,
is what's interesting because she's saying that on New York, on New Jersey Housewives,
everyone just pretends everyone's amazing and they dig up secrets rather than offering these secrets,
you know?
Yeah.
I mean, I think that actually makes it maybe for me, in my own personal preference,
a better watch than seeing somebody's life.
Like, people are going to make mistakes, right?
I'm not here to throw stones.
But it's, it'd be, I think it'd be hard for me to see somebody's life get ruined on TV because
they signed up for a show. But if they're out there being like, no, I've slept with this dude and
he's sleeping with this girl and we're just kind of all figuring this. Like, I think that's easier
for me to like consume. I get that. And a lot of people like in the Housewives franchises have
like gone to jail for like embezzlement. Like a lot of them. A lot of the husbands are doing
sketchy shit. And I don't know why you'd sign up for this show if you're not willing to expose all
your secrets. And that's a huge secret, you know.
So like that's also kind of brings me to this episode when the Rula is introduced and they talk immediately about her husband cheating on her.
And it's like I the balls to go on here just knowing that's going to be dug up and especially him as a podiatrist.
I mean, that could really ruin like your livelihood.
You know, it is.
But it does.
I'm almost having a hard time tracking who like who's sleeping with who and like who actually is like has a relationship that like is.
not, you know, having extra marital affairs and not.
Totally.
And we kind of see it at the beginning with Liz and Jerry.
They hang out the in-laws.
This is, I think, a very, Lord, I think that's a very sweet scene.
I loved it.
It's very nice.
Like, their daughter, you see Liz as a mom, which I think is cool, you know, as a stepmom, but a mom.
Yeah.
You see the boyfriend bring his family in and the boyfriend,
from probably like peeing down his legs so nervous.
I know, yes, yes.
I know.
I know.
It's very cute.
And I also kind of like how Liz didn't really disclose why they end up getting pretty
much like full custody of the girls.
She didn't air that out.
And that's like protecting the kids and stuff.
So I thought that was really nice to see.
And the boyfriend, yes, must be very nervous and expecting the question,
when is the ring coming?
they didn't get into that.
Maybe they'll get into that later.
But it's a very overall sweet scene, super Italian, super like, eat.
And what I love about this season is we see all of these women eating.
And I feel like on Beverly Hills and all the other seasons, no one's eating.
And like, it's a very big, like, cultural thing up there to be eating the cheese and all the boss and all that stuff.
Oh, yeah.
My wife's family has a fairly, like a big East Coast presence, but some of them are in Rhode Island.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
They eat.
Like, when I say.
they eat, they eat and they eat all the time.
Like there's platters of food that come out throughout the day.
Yes.
It's so amazing.
So is she watching this?
She will be.
I obviously have the screeners.
And so tonight I think during the national championship of the basketball game,
she's going to be catching a lot of her housewives of Rhode Island.
I do want to get into the Ashley scene, obviously, with Joel in the park.
But I think just for my brain, it makes more sense to honestly.
go to the Kelsey Liz Rula getting drinks scene because there's so much of the like Liz's life
that's brought up. And we obviously saw at the beginning of the episode Liz's life in such a
like dynamic way with the, you know, kids and the baby on the way and the grandparents.
And Rula really makes her entrance here. I'm still shocked and I've been on reality television.
I'm shocked that people can get into these kind of conversations
knowing it's going to be aired on national television.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
It's kind of nuts.
Yeah,
she went into it knowing that they're going to bring up the fact that her husband had an affair.
And Liz,
which I love the quote.
Like,
they were like,
oh,
is it still ongoing?
Is this affair still ongoing?
And she's like,
no,
it was last summer or whatever.
And then Kelsey's talking about the timeline of their outfits and it being Christmas
or summer or whatever.
and Liz goes, but it is ma.
And that's going to be a line of mine until the end of time,
but it is ma,
because everyone is talking about it and seeing it.
And I'm going to have a little inside scoop.
Now, all the inside scoop that I have is actually not from Ashley,
because I'm not going to get her in trouble,
but it is for my sleuthing on the internet.
So allegedly, she works in the building next to Brian.
And later in the episode, Brian says,
Rula, this affair cannot be going on because,
I share my location with you.
You know where I am.
It's like, yeah, you work next to your mistress.
Like, you know, like you can be doing whatever you want.
So I thought that was a very interesting tidbit.
And she does work in aesthetics like Jo Ellen says.
So Joellen allegedly follows her on Instagram.
So that's, yeah.
So this is, okay, does he know he's been caught?
Brian knows that everyone knows.
and he apologized and said it ended and that it's not ongoing.
But apparently Liz has some insider scoop and knows it's still going on.
And we don't really know how she knows that, though.
But this lunch is kind of the moment to, I mean,
do you think this lunch is meant to help Rula?
Is it meant to expose?
Like, what's happened?
Like, this is where I'm getting confused on the rural housewise because is it actually meant to be helpful?
I think it's both.
I think it's great television.
This is when you're going to bring up rules of affair,
or not rule of the affair or whatever, Brian's affair.
And let her know, like, you shouldn't trust him yet.
Like, we know some information and we're being good friends and just keep an eye out, really.
I get, I'm shocked.
Like, if this was a thing a year ago, how somebody can say, yes, I want to go on this show now.
Like, I know this is going to be the storyline.
How could Brian ever sign off on this?
It makes him look like an asshole,
makes it look stupid.
And so Liz,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
They want to, Liz,
okay, so I'm trying to remember.
Liz, no, Joellen sent Liz the pictures
of Brian having an affair.
And that's, that's, um...
She's like private investigating?
Yes.
Brula saw the pictures from Liz,
and then I guess down the line,
they blame Joellen for exposing this entire affair.
And that's what they get to at the winery later on
is, and that's why Joellen hates Rula so much
because they blamed her for her own husband having an affair.
It's like that is his problem.
And that is not Joellen.
She's shooting the messenger.
Yeah, unless, I mean, the only thing I can think here is
that it was done with this,
not the spirit of I'm trying to help you,
but the spirit of I know something that, you know,
I'm in on the joke or I have a little, you know,
like there is that element to where like,
when I'll screw you too.
Yes.
We all have that in our life where it's like,
you did this,
you sent me a picture,
you know what's happening,
but you're almost proud that you're the one to find it
and not it's not helpful.
It's actually very hurtful to me.
100%.
I understand.
I can see that.
And as women,
I think we love a little bit of drama.
And then she got the drama,
you know?
I'm not saying,
it's not speaking for all women,
but if I saw that,
I would be like,
I would probably show my friends,
and I'm an asshole for it,
but I would need to talk about it.
And then eventually,
I think Rula should have known.
I don't think that Joellen should be in trouble
for showing Rula.
But Rula does not like Joellen.
We've seen that.
she she she hates her for it and last night after this episode aired joellen wrote on instagram
referring to rula you shop in cranston you golf in cransston and your husband sleeps in
cransston because it was like whoa because she was talking shit on cranson and now she's on
this whole cranson parade because it's not the most expensive area and so rula was talking shit
about that so they're already firing shots and i'm very looking at
I'm looking forward to the reunion now if this is all we get for someone talking shit on one town, you know.
Does the reunion happen after the whole show's done?
I don't know.
I think so, but there are so many episodes that I think they do like a chunk and then a chunk, like a midway season.
I was going to say, because like there's some stuff already I want them to have to like bicker out.
I can't even imagine.
I haven't seen the next episode, so I don't have any more like inside scoop.
on what's about to come.
All what I've heard is like,
there's literal physical fights.
So, well, they reunion maybe even wild.
Yeah.
That's, this is, this is the wildest thing I've ever entered into.
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We've covered so much of the episode already,
but I do want to get to the part that's so intriguing to our listeners is Ashley.
Yeah.
We get to see Ashley and Joel on at the park.
It looks really hot.
It's too hot for them.
Those poor kids have this red little cheeks.
They're so sweaty.
I would be so overstimulated.
I couldn't do it.
And the fact that they were able to have somewhat of a conversation amazes me.
Yeah.
You know, this is a moment where you see Ashley express some emotion.
You know, she's talking about Jared.
And I think I want to clarify this.
And I think Ashley would like it if we did clarify.
knowing Ashley and Jared.
Jared is an incredible husband, man, and father.
Amazing.
I think there is a world in which,
and I don't think this is what Ashley meant.
I don't think is actually what she was saying.
I think it was just how it was shown,
where it was almost like Jared's just like this unhappy,
like grouch walking around all the time.
And he like, and that's just not the case,
but he takes a lot of his responsibility seriously.
And I think it's an admirable thing.
And I think he is an abysmal.
admirable. I need to pick a different word. It's hard when your nose is stuff to say admirable.
Yeah. He's a great man. And I think this was a hard moment because Ashley's kind of talked about it on
almost famous before where he gets down on himself. But yet if you walk into Audrey's,
you're like, this is one of the coolest places that exist. Yeah. It's awesome. Yeah. I feel really,
that was very emotional. I was just like my throat had a lump.
watching her because, you know, you're stressed out with the kids and you're just trying to convey
this. But Jared literally is the best. Like, I'll tell everyone, like, he, if he's not at Audrey's,
he's playing with the kids, he's planning Disney trips or he's on like a date night with Ashley.
Like, and the only thing he wants to do is like play softball on Sundays. So like, that's what he
lives for. He's the best. So I don't want anyone to look at this being like, oh, she has the
husband that only cares about work and stuff. It's quite literally the opposite. And also, I want to
mention that since airing that, he's like has way more like work life balance. Like he's at home like
twice as often. So that was just like a rough period, I think. Sure. And Audrey's has picked up a little
bit and probably customers. So in the past few days, hell yeah. Yeah. He's probably doing okay.
This all works out for the better. See, real housewives can be a good thing for those who attend.
There is a scene at Alicia's house. It's a party bus. Um,
They, Alicia says that Ashley looks like a medieval princess.
She does.
You think she does?
Yeah, so I'd like to address this.
Okay.
I bought her that outfit, but I never intended her to wear it to a housewife gathering or any kind of winery.
I thought it was cool.
I wore that to Ashley's baby shower at a tea party.
It was a tea party outfit sort of situation.
And then the day, the morning of filming comes, she calls me, she says, what do I wear?
It's raining.
La, la, la, la.
all these outfits.
I was like, I don't know what to tell you what you wear to a winery, but like, I probably
wouldn't pick that.
And she was like, it's all I have.
I'm just wearing it.
And then they're making fun over the whole time.
Oh.
I feel bad, but she really owns being the worst dress on that show.
And that's okay.
She knows it.
She knows that's her role.
She does not care what her outfit is.
She only cares what her and makeup looks like.
And that's always good.
Has that always been the thing with her?
Always been the thing.
Okay.
It's not the outfit.
It's the hair and makeup.
She'll be going to the Grammys or the Oscars,
and she won't think about what she's wearing until the day of,
but we'll have her makeup and hair all prepped, you know?
So that's just not her thing.
So they're going to make fun of her a couple more times,
probably for her outfits.
I mean, it honestly, though, is, like, some of these outfits,
I mean, they're all wonderful, and they're, like, outrageously.
Like, you would never wear those out to lunch with your friends.
Some of the stuff we're seeing.
And so maybe Ashley is the fashionista,
in the sense of this could be your everyday outfit.
Yeah, except not the turkey leg outfit.
No.
But there was a TikTok that someone just made,
and I should find the creator.
But she goes through all the girls
and what they've worn this season
and where they get it from.
This is the most, like, low budget outfits
of any franchise ever.
Like, a lot of them is fashion.
A lot of them is fashion Nova,
and, like, nothing's over $100, usually.
A lot of it is, like,
obviously revolve but like not even the high end stuff on revolve so like people it's more affordable
like they're putting on like a face but they all look great i love that it's an affordable fashion season
you think that will continue if they make it like five seasons and they all they all start getting
like big old paychecks no they're going to buy a whole bunch of bullshit but ashley will not she
won't she doesn't care no she does not care she never buys any clothes for herself oh that's amazing
Yeah, I know. All right. So, yeah, we're at Alicia's house and Alicia kind of apologize to Kelsey for bringing up her relationship again, just like she was inquiring. And then there she goes inquiring about Rula. You know the same thing. And I'm like, I get it. You get, I get it. You want to talk about it. And it's just funny. They're like, and then Kelsey's like, yeah, but what's going on with Rula? It's like, you're just doing the same thing, okay? But another, since this is the only time we really
talk about Kelsey and like her her relationship other than at the box game at the end of the
winery. Kelsey's boyfriend has been revealed to the public and I don't know if all of your
listeners know who it is now, but it's Judge Caprio's son, John Caprio, who Judge Caprio who
Judge Caprio has gone viral many times on like Instagram and TikTok for being like the sweetest
judge of all time and gives people a lot of grace and it's amazing heartwarming videos.
He passed away, I think, in 2023.
2025.
I'm looking at him here.
I do know this guy.
Okay.
You do know this guy.
Isn't he amazing, amazing man?
Yes.
Yeah.
So, um, yes.
So Judge Caprio, John Caprio, I guess.
And he's very, very wealthy.
He's pretty handsome.
He's older.
And apparently he used to date Paula Abdul.
So that's pretty cool.
I feel like Paula Abdul pops up a lot in pop culture.
That's what I said.
I was like, she has dated.
every tall dark handsome man.
Yeah, and she was on The Bachelor for a son episode.
I don't remember which season that was.
Yeah, she just like is, she like stays in it.
Yeah.
She loves it.
And she loves boys.
So, yeah, it's John Cabrio.
And then the other girlfriend that apparently John Cabrio has is they actually stop dating.
And he doesn't actually have another girl.
But this is also alleged.
but all of that is alleged.
But allegedly, the girl's name is all over the internet,
and I did not get it from Ashley.
I found it myself.
The other girl is Crystal Canberra, and she is foine.
She's very, very hot.
Really?
Yeah.
I can send you a screenshot later.
So this dude's just out there just dating pretty people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
So that's all I got, but, yeah, I don't think he's actually dating someone else.
You knew that was about to happen too.
Yeah.
This guy probably didn't want that to happen, but.
I mean, if also this is my other take is if Kelsey really wanted to continue her relationship with this man,
she wouldn't go on this show because he's not going to like that.
Yeah, this could be her out, right?
It must have already been on the way out and she said, fuck it.
I don't know if I can say that on your almost famous podcast, but, you know.
Okay, yeah.
So that's, that's, yeah.
And then so Alicia and Kelsey are at their house.
They're talking about how they're going to plan on a winery day.
And then I guess they flash forward to the winery day.
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I mean, obviously we're at the Winery Day.
Is there any big standout moments now as the episode kind of closes up?
Oh, we do have to talk about, actually, I want to talk about this so bad.
Yeah.
The one-on-one interview with Alicia, and she's like, I don't like driving on the highway.
Yes.
She goes through all the things that she's done on the highway.
She's like, I've hit a woman.
I've been...
Like, Alicia, I think it's...
It's not about the roads.
I think you're just a bad driver.
I don't think it's about driving in Rhode Island.
There's a large percentage of people that don't do the things you just said you did.
Correct.
She's like, I'm over-driving.
I just want to eat my crackers since, like, I don't think you're a good driver.
But yeah, that was kind of funny.
I don't know.
People in Rhode Island don't drive further than 15 minutes, as we said in the beginning of last episode.
But, like, they don't drive very far.
If you have to drive further than 20 minutes, you're driving to another state.
they hate it.
Yeah, they don't leave their little bubble.
Yeah, that's why she said she doesn't go on like the highway.
So weird.
I just,
I think it's so wild,
Lauren,
that like she can sit there and have an interview
and say,
I've gone off the road,
I've hit a person.
They're like,
what do you mean by that?
She's like,
I don't worry about it.
They're like,
okay, yeah,
no,
we won't worry about it then.
Like, hey,
don't let that fly out of your mouth,
maybe.
Yeah,
maybe don't tell us that you hit a human driving.
Yeah.
And don't expect us all to go, that feels like an arrest.
Correct.
Anything else?
So, Joellen kind of, well, Kelsey lets Joellen know that Rula is coming to the winery.
And Joelan loses her shit.
And she says once the picture of Brian and his mistress got out that Brian, like, retaliated, I guess, against Joellen and try to get her fired from her job, which is all.
which is awful.
We don't know if that's true or not.
So this is all alleged.
It's all alleged because she makes it seem like it's Rule's fault,
but I'm thinking like maybe it's just Brian who is like,
how dare you call me out on my cheating.
So I don't know if it's Rula's fault.
But Rula ends up not coming to the winery because she's sick, allegedly.
She's sick.
Yeah.
She's so sick.
We really haven't seen that much of her.
I mean, this episode we did, but we just haven't.
seen that much of her in the first, you know, two episodes.
No, we haven't seen her at all in the first episode.
And this was just, that was just the lunch, really.
Oh, and they also asked Rosie if she had sex with a coach and they never say who the
coach is.
Did you pick up on that?
I was like, who is this coach?
Yeah.
No, and it's like she, I think she responds with that she's never had sex with a basketball
coach, right?
She said she never met on or anything.
Is that going to be, is this foreshadowing, you think?
That's what I'm thinking.
I'd hope.
And I was like, is it Bill Belichick?
But it's a basketball coach.
It's not.
But I was like, that would be good because she kind of does look like Belichick's new lady.
That would be a wild.
That would be wild.
Bill Belichick shows up to the real housewives of Rhode Island.
Yeah.
Well, I think that's pretty much all the standout stuff from this episode.
Yeah, we're just kind of building now on like, it feels like in the first episode we've built into all these storylines that, again, it's hard for me to keep track of who actually is sleeping with who.
Who has like a marriage that doesn't have like any outside influence.
It does to me, and I'm biased, but it does to me seem like Ashley and Jared are coming out of this looking like so insanely normal to the like populations that would watch this.
I know.
I mean, I think it'll stay that way.
I'm not even saying I hope it will.
What could possibly come up.
Yeah.
Sorry, guys.
No tea on Ashley and Jared there.
But we're very grateful for that.
Yeah.
I mean, Audrey's has gotten just as much screen time as anything else in their relationship.
and that's amazing for them.
It's great.
But then also I'm a little mad
because then Audrey's will be so busy
and they'll never end up moving back to Virginia
to be with me.
So that's okay.
I'll sabotage it another way.
Yeah, that's when they get their jet
and they can just fly back and forth real quick.
That's what I'm thinking.
Yes.
Yeah, that'd be nice.
That's even actually better for everybody.
Hey, in the next episode,
Lauren, we see some things.
We meet Kelsey's other boyfriend.
There is a Studio 54 theme party
and Joellen and Rula have a confrontation
that I think so many of us
are on the edge of our seats to watch.
Yeah.
I'm very excited.
I think that Joanne's going to be very scary again,
and everyone looks really beautiful in their 70s outfit.
I told Ashley to do bangs, so it looks good.
Do you know, I think we can ask this,
when they have a party like this, a theme party.
Does Ashley pick out her outfit?
Yeah, she picks out her outfit.
She picks out her outfit.
I mean, that's impressive.
Do you help her?
She just happened to have that outfit in her closet.
And she goes, she fac-sime me, she goes, does this look good?
And I was like, that's absolutely flawless.
Great execution.
Yeah.
Okay.
Good.
Good.
The hype sister there.
Good for you, Lauren.
Sometimes.
All right.
Hey, we'll be back next week.
Breaking down episode three of the Real Housewives of Rhode Island.
We've already previewed that next episode.
Yeah, I've never seen any other seasons of the Real Housewives.
But if any of them are like this, and it sounds like from what Lauren's saying,
none of them really are.
This is the most dramatic,
the most engaging few first episodes of any season to date.
But it's keeping me on the edge of my seat.
I'm watching because I love Ashley so much
and I love Jared so much that I'm like watching
and like so having fun with it from that angle.
If it wasn't for them,
I would be very uncomfortable.
I would have turned this off by now.
Yeah, I know.
I don't let you at all.
I do like it.
It's too much.
It's too awkward.
There's too much like weird stuff happening,
but I'm watching it and I'm happy to be watching it
because of the two of them.
Same. I agree with everything you just said.
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