The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - The Most Shocking Bachelor Moments of 2025 - #5

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

We’re counting down the most shocking moments from Bachelor Nation in 2025, and #5 involves our latest Bachelor!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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this year. And there's a bunch of them. I mean, the fact that we were able to narrow this thing down to five is pretty incredible, given what we've all seen on the small screen this year. So today we're going to kick it off with the number five most shocking moment. This is, again, the top five And this is number five. So it's the first one. This one involves some heartbreak, right? A lot of he said, she said that came after this. And it was definitely something that I thought was a very interesting watch at the time.

And then when you had a chance to look back at it too, especially with how things turned out kind of much after the fact. It really made you say, hmm. It's one of those things that make you say, hmm. The number five most shocking moment this year. was, come on now, Bachelor Grant dumping Latia Gar. I know. Come on now. Latia was, this was Latia's buzz word, or buzz saying that she said a little bit,

which I think was her way of basically being like Grant. You're not fooling anyone here, okay, pal. So let's rewind a little. Grant Ellis was previously on Jen Tran season, where he was set home in week six, but then he was immediately announced as the next season's bachelor after his elimination. Grant's season premiered in January of this year, January 2025. The finale aired in March of 2025, March 24th, to be exact,

which is where our shocking elimination took place. Now, Grant's finale was filmed in the beautiful Dominican Republic, and Grant played professional basketball for a time in the Dominican Republic, so this place was very special to him, so they kind of tailored things around Grant's love for this region, this region. And when Latia met Grant for their final moment, I mean, she literally poured her heart out to him. I mean, she was saying some stuff that was like, I mean, it's cringe-worthy only because you realize he didn't choose her, right? But she's saying everything from since the

moment, you know, I knew this happened. That's when I fell in love with you. That's when I knew wanted to have your children. That's when I knew we were going to have this life together. and we were going to just be so in love and, you know, I will love you and I will cherish you and our family and our children, I will protect us. I mean, this woman was saying some incredibly beautiful things

that any man would love to hear their future wife, you know, saying to them and the future mother of their children saying. But Grant, let her go through the whole thing. Let her go through the whole spiel, which was, again, very vulnerable, which was something she had problems with throughout the course of the season.

and and here she was just laying it all on the line, thick, I mean, with confidence. And Grant waited until she was done, of course, and, man, you had the sigh that you know, this is not good, right? This is not working the way that it's supposed to. And he said that he had an emotional connection, told her how beautiful she was, told her, I love you very much, and I want to give you everything you deserve, but I'm not your person. We're his exact words. And after some back and forth, he said, I'm truly sorry.

I hope you don't view me any differently to which Latia very famously said, well, I do for sure. Come on now. Come on now, Grant. Who, man, I will say this. This was one of the, in my opinion, one of the sternest moments on the podium there, on the proposal stand, whatever you call that thing, when they got the, final rows laying there and it's all beautiful and someone's going to be getting proposed to.

And I will tell you from experience, you know, Grant kept defaulting saying, you know, well, I'm sorry because, you know, you don't understand the situation I'm in, how difficult it is. It's like, yeah, bro, try being the fourth dude standing up there doing it when I did it. And, yeah, that's when you don't know what's happening. When you're the 74th Bachelor, whatever he was, I don't even know, 35th maybe, whatever he is. you know what's coming. You might not know personally how difficult it's going to be, but you know it's going to get real and it's going to get awkward and it's going to get rough, right?

I will say this, you know, watching this on the podium, it did give me a flashback to my season of The Bachelor. I had Kelly Joe and Estella as my two finalists. Kelly Joe, you know, one of the things I thought was really interesting about Latia was how measured she was. Like everything was very slow coming out of her mouth, you know? And it wasn't like, I mean, I don't say that in a, in a, I mean, she's clearly very intelligent and very, you know, and, but her delivery was very deliberate, very slow and deliberate. Whereas my flashback of this moment was Kelly Joe, I'm holding Kelly Joe's hands. And when I tell her she's not the one, she throws my hands now.

And it's just like, I'm out of here, you know. That one was, was pretty dramatic as well. But this, I felt like Latia's departure in this moment was even more direct and more, I don't want to say genuine, because Kelly Joe's reactions were very genuine, but she was, she decided that she was going to tell him how wrong this was for her. And I actually really, as a viewer, appreciated that. You know, I appreciated kind of getting to know that, you know, well, what about all these things you told me? What about all these things you said?

Like, what's going on here? You know? And in fact, the dramatic breakup did continue because we even had Latia on the podcast where she gave us even more information. I think initially when I went home and I'm like driving away in the car, I'm like, what was that? Like, I'm so, like, confused. Like, I just had the rug pulled and I have no context or anything.

And I think, like, as I sat at home, I was like, okay, yeah, it was a little bit of a bubble. and like I kind of starts to click that like I really didn't have that much time with him. So there really were so many gaps that were like big and I just missed so many like parts of his personality. And there's just like missing context for so much. And then for sure watching it back and seeing like other people's conversations added even like a different layer of perspective where I was like, okay. Yeah. Like the conversations that he's having with other people are not aligned with the version. that I had in my head while I was filming.

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She called Grant out for all the things that led her on throughout the season. She said that Grant had told her right out of the gates. his number one connection. And from the first date, he knew she was his wife. You know, Latia also told Ashley about this when she came on a podcast to take a listen. Didn't he say, I love you and said, like, you're the one? Yeah, several times. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was that. And he said it the first time, I think. He said it on FaceTime to my mom. And he said it, like, throughout the date, like the puppy date, he said it like a bunch of times and I remember looking at like you're like I literally looked at Bradford and I was like you like is you like allowed to say stuff like that and you know I was it was he continued to say

it the whole time whether or not he was supposed to and I know that they talked to him about it several times but yeah he kept saying it so man watching the after the final rose moment I will say this um I don't know that we've ever had I mean we've had a lot we've had a lot of of, you know, drama on the after the final rose moments, typically with the runner-ups, you know, kind of getting, settle on the score a little bit, if you will. And that's good because I think, you know, one of the things that we forget is that, and I say this a lot, but, you know, these shows, people that, people that go on these shows don't have a hard time finding a date, right? I mean, I remember people always going, why would you go on a show like

this? You're a good-looking guy or you're a good-looking girl. You don't need, you don't have any problems finding a date. No, people that go on these shows have zero problems, typically finding a date. In fact, I always say this with the women on the show. It's not even about the guy half the time when it starts. It's about the fact that these women are all highly successful, highly driven women. And they also happen to be very beautiful. And they also happen to know that they like winning things. And at the end of the day, they're not going home if this chick's staying.

Right. I'm not saying that that was what this was with Latia because I think this was my much deeper thing than that. but you have a woman who is very, very put together, very beautiful, very accomplished, and very sure of herself, sure of herself, because of these conversations she's had with Grant behind the scenes, you know, where she thinks she's the number one thing going into this. She's it, right? And so she's making plans. She's got a vision. I mean, she probably had a vision board back in her room, right, with all of the babies of the future on there. But it was interesting because ultimately Grant did choose Juliana and they did get engaged.

The engagement was very short-lived. They probably called it quits not too long thereafter. Both have gone back and forth in the press talking about when they decided to call it off. Grant made comments on social media videos about not being heartbroken by the breakup, which was really dumb to say. Because in my opinion, you know, look, if nothing else, show some grace. Right. Show some respect for the fact that you went through this process together. You come out of it the other side. Don't be a knob and be like, you know, oh, well, I don't, I'm not heartbroken. You know,

I'm fine. Really? Because you propose to this person. So what does that mean? And you let someone else go who you said was your future wife. And now you're simply not heartbroken. You're too callous to care. I just think that in those moments, you know, it's interesting to me how people try to save face and maybe they'd do a whole lot better if they had a little humility and thought about how their words would affect other people because whether or not the show has 30 million viewers or 3 million viewers or 30 viewers, the people that are watching that show are people who have cared about you

or you cared about at one point and you need to be careful with how you handle their feelings especially after the fact when things don't work out because there is embarrassment there. There is not only is it a break, up, which breaks everyone's heart who's involved in it. I don't care what Grant said, but I'm sure he was experiencing a little bit of heartbreak as well.

But it's also on a main stage. It's on a big stage. And when you're on a big stage like this, again, no matter, whether it's 30 million viewers like back in the day or, you know, 5 million viewers, like whatever the number is, it's a lot of people who think they know your business and now they're judging you for not making it work. And you've got to see that, right? You've got to be cognizant of that.

you got to be careful with people's hearts when those moments happen. But batch of fans were really actually shocked about Grant not choosing Latia. You know, they were really shocked about this. And I think that, you know, I was shocked. I thought she was his choice for sure. And I remember I didn't watch this finale. And I remember seeing the headlines the next day and being like, what? I did not see this coming.

But, you know, hey, sometimes these moments are a catalyst for people to really kickstart their life in a different direction and to really take things up a notch maybe in their personal life or definitely in their professional life. Like they use it as a springboard. I'm not saying like selling tooth whitening kits, but I'm saying like maybe they use this as an opportunity to gut check and be like, all right, I did something that, you know, would have normally scared the hell out of me and now I'm better for it. So here we go. And Latia has. She's been living her best life since the show. She's in Utah. She's hinted that we might actually see her on future seasons of secret lives of Mormon wives.

I don't know if that means she's going Mormon. I don't know what that means or if maybe she's a friend of the cast, probably more like that. But Bachelor fans, you know, ultimately we're seeing Latia live her best life now, right? She is in Utah. She's hinted us that we might see her pop up on future seasons of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, which I actually have never watched that show. But now with our new casting, I'm going to start watching it. My wife and I decided we're going to start watching that show.

So that would be very interesting to see Latia doing that. But ultimately, you know, the Grant-Latia breakup comes in as our number five most shocking moment in 2025 in Bachelor Nation, the Grant-Latia breakup. We haven't heard from Grant much since unless you follow them on social media, but we're probably going to hear a lot from Latia. So there you go, everybody. That is your number five. I can't wait to see what the other four will be in this top five shocking moments of 2020. I have been your OG host, Bob Gimmie, signing off. Happy New Year, everybody.

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