The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - The Suite Life of Grant Ellis

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

It's Fantasy Suites week on Grant's season of The Bachelor and Ben and Ashley have some major revelations to share!   Ben opens up about why Fantasy Suite dates are "designed" to be boring, we discuss Grant's free flowing social media life, and it's time to get #JusticeForBenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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exactly right listen wherever you get your podcasts this is the ben and ashley i almost famous podcast with iheart radio it's almost famous podcast we're here this week breaking down fantasy sweet week for grant it's the bachelor we don't have much left fantasy suites are always a big deal i'll start it with this i say it every year i know there's been talk ashley that fantasy sweets are are not valuable important how do you make them, you know, so there's not this connotation that you got to go sleep together. And what I will always say, no matter where your value system lies, wherever your morals lie, whatever you think about spending the night with somebody, fantasy sweet week is the most impactful week on the show for the contestants because it's the first time that the cameras are away.

So you can go in that room, close the door, and just be away from the cameras. And conversations can exist. And like, you can kind of let your hair down a little bit and take a deep breath. I'm always interested in Fantasy Suite Week because I think it changes things so drastically because it's the most intentional time of the season. And with that, we're going to kick it off. Ashley, you just started this thing when we got going.

I'm going to call you out a little bit. You said, how are we going to talk about this episode because you thought the date specifically were so boring? Yeah, I just wanted to talk about it on an overall level because I feel like I have two sentences to say about each date. Nothing really happened of consequence on any of these dates. Nothing changed our minds from where we were last week with his ranking of these women, in my opinion. But there are a few things that I've noticed that I think are kind of game-changing.

Okay. Let me tell you this. I'll give you a little behind the scenes. Do you really want to hear a little behind the scenes? I love to hear behind the scenes. Okay. When you go on a date during Fantasy Suite Week and honestly, Honestly, most weeks outside of that, you are kind of requested not to have anything of meaning happened during the daytime portion.

So these dates are supposed to be fillers. We've done this for like seven or eight years and you now tell me that daytime portions are supposed to be boring. They are supposed to be boring. No, I mean, it's true. We all know that. We all know that the serious conversations happen at night. For example, there's no way that the show says we're going to have a date on one of the most valuable weeks of the season that's silent yoga and that's going to progress this relationship.

There's just no way. There's a reason why that's the case. It's an easy setup because what the show wants is this like date to be fun and something to talk about then in the evening where we will really get the meat of the relationship. So I don't disagree with you. but my point is I think that is strategic by the show I just feel like normally

I'm far more entertained by Fantasy Sweet Day week Why is that? I felt like there was just like I just felt like there was so nothing I don't know there was nothing Juliana had something

There was something with Juliana You know she like really emotionally poured herself out with her talk about her ex and how she's broken He's like I'm broken too blah blah blah

but like everything else just I feel like I didn't it didn't progress anything for me this was my big these my my takeaways from the episode have to do with it being like the off air stuff apparently grant last night hosted a picture a like a screenshot of he and juliana and he added her and then did a lock emoji to me me, this is what it means. I said I love you to Latia during the episode, but baby girl, I got you unlock. Yeah. My take has been that he is not with Latia, even though it seems to be the most sense and it seems to be the one that he's pulling for, which starts to answer the questions that we see the previews when we see in the previews for the rest of the season. I think he's

with Juliana. And the reason I don't think he's with Latia is because of this Montana Girls' Day. Okay, that and she was also seen with Kelsey and Joey at Dancing with the Stars. It doesn't seem like the strategy that the show is typically taken with the winner. Like they're kind of quiet, hidden, and she's kind of doing her own thing and getting out there. So, you know, Juliana, I think, is the clearest choice. I also think Grant has been, and this hasn't made big headlines, but I know people have been talking about, he's maybe been strategically open on social media giving hints to how this process plays out to add excitement no i think we could you can see it two ways one it's him just trying to

reassure whoever he's with that this is the real thing that's what it is or the other side of that would be it's sloppy it's sloppy like he said he should have been on love island like not the bachelor probably both things well that's what he said last week so you guys don't know. He was commenting under another post and he was like, when you know you should have been on Love Island and not The Bachelor, that's just like kind of him, I think, poking fun of himself for not being the greatest Bachelor. Yes. Well, and here's what happened. Here's the wild part of this until we go on to the next two dates that are our valuable and important. So he starts doing this stuff, which typically the show would start to call him and be like, hey, Grant, you got to stay

off social media. Hey, Grant, you can't be liking post. Hey, Grant, you can't be. following this person and not this person. Like, Grant, can you wait a month for us here, buddy? Because you're giving the show away, and that's the worst thing that can happen to the show while it's airing. The problem is, everybody that worked on the show's gone now. So nobody's, nobody's looking out. Like, nobody's over the show anymore. They're all checked out. Like, if they're still working on the show, they know their job is ending as soon as Grant's season's over. So, like, outside of, you know, a paycheck, what interest do they have in keeping the show moving this season. And so I think he's just kind of doing what he wants to do. Nobody's really

checking out for it. And we're getting the results of it because if you look hard enough, you're going to get a lot of hints at who he's with and how this plays out via his social media. Now, we just talked about Juliana and how she is a frontrunner in our eyes. Her date was what I would say, the best date out of the three. There was vulnerability. I agree. It had the most meat to it. But we'll move on from that to Zoe then. It was obvious to us last week before this episode even aired

that we thought Zoe was far behind in third. It almost didn't make sense for Zoe to be at Fantasy Sweet Week because they didn't have hardly any time together. Now they're at Fantasy Sweet Week. They really don't know each other too well yet. Everybody makes fun of their lack of

chemistry online. There are so many memes are like, hey, I'm Zoe. Nice to meet you. Like a while walking into the bed. It's sweet. It really didn't seem to change this week.

Zoe does feel a little robotic to me at times too. She does not seem very invested in this. I've never seen a girl seem so disinterested during this week. Well, how would she be at this point now? She's been given so many signs

in so many non-verbal actions to tell her that, hey, she's in third. Like, Grant doesn't even want to spend a one-on-one with her. Oh, because, yes, there's really been no one before that has gotten to Fantasy Sweet Week without having a proper one-on-one besides hometowns, your hometown being your first one-on-one. Like, that's wild. Wild. So my thought is she is probably like, why am I investing into a relationship? that he doesn't want to invest into.

Yeah. I'm checked out. Yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other. I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating.

He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Wilfredel from PodMeets World.

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I won't say whitewash because at the end of the day, you know what I'm me? Yeah. But the whole pretending and cold, you know, it takes a total on. Listen to the new season of Grasas Has Come Again as part of my Cultura podcast network On the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Something that I think is interesting that was never mentioned during this And maybe it was Grant being smart and just never bringing it up to production.

I think that that must have been what it is. told Nick on his podcast that he had been celibate for a year going into Fantasy Sweet Week. And I think that's like a huge thing to talk about. But my assumption is that he didn't talk about this on camera because maybe he just didn't want to deal with that because there's to be so much additional pressure and so much additional messiness a la Zach if he were to say like, hey, I might just be continuing this celibate journey until, you know, just one more week at least. Yeah, I was going to say, well, it makes sense because of his time on The Bachelorette, but then in between times he could have broken that celibacy.

He had plenty of time, and he was off so early during that season that... Yeah, and he was out, you know, hard to have expected it. But they announced him pretty quickly as the next bachelor, and once you're the next bachelor, I do think there is that pressure of, I'm not going to go out there on date. Like, yeah, that's... So, you know, a lot of this year has been taken up. I'm not going to say that that isn't a strategic. intentional choice by him.

But a lot of this year has been taken up with the expectations of this show that now he is the lead of. But yeah, that is a big talking point that was never really brought up. But they did reference Zach quite a bit during this episode. We do got to give a shout out

to Daisy and Rachel coming on and speaking to the first two guests. Obviously, Katie then. Yeah, Katie. Katie's segment was like a whole commercial like long segment you know like commercial katie commercial and i was thinking that these girl chats while worthy in some degree i think most worthy with katies i thought they were just like just a waste of time uh like we love seeing visits from past contestants but when they're so long

you're just like why am i seeing more of their day like i want to see more of them but with katy i think it was pretty much all worthy she talked to letia before her day in they specifically had her because Zach, of course, was like, hey, guess what, we're not doing sex fantasy sweet week. And then, oops, he did and not with his winner. And that was a whole hurdle that they had to go through before their fantasy suite. Because Zach, you know, he told Katie beforehand, which is the good choice. Well, I guess it was a good choice or he could have just done it in the privacy. You know, you don't let you do that on The Bachelor. Anyway, so Latia obviously wanted to talk to Katie about the fact that she like,

had full intent to not sleep with Grant until she was chosen at the end if she is chosen. And I would think that that was going to be a religious thing. I thought it was going to be more, I thought she was going to say more so, like, we may not have sex still we're married, but that doesn't seem like Latia's intention right now.

I mean, I think this is a very fair thing for any contestant to request and to say and to speak out. this is a weird week and it's and it does frustrate me not frustrate me it is a kind of a stereotype of the week that this is all about sex and the truth is when you're in it it's not it is a it is a reprieve from the grind of the every day that has been your life for three months it is a really exciting week to take a deep breath and just be you because no matter who you are with the cameras are going you recognize that there's a camera on you and so you can ask questions and say things that maybe you're more nervous about maybe grant can open up about his dad a little

bit more to her because the cameras aren't there and he knows it's not going to be displayed to national audience like things like that are so important this week and so for her to say this is not only fair it's it's very understandable it should not be a conversation i don't think of oh that's uh this is such an important piece though to us getting together it's like give her a break this is a weird week man like yeah this is an odd scenario although zach didn't handle it well it's probably a good idea to not have sex to the fantasy sweet because it's probably We're going to create issues down the road, but, you know, every, yeah, so he had a, he had a good hope there. Or at least ask for everybody's opinion. Like maybe don't like make, make the decision on behalf of everybody, but say, you know, this is why. But, okay. So Latia makes it clear, kind of her expectations. It does seem, and actually, tell me if I'm wrong. To me right now, and the show's good at this, I get it.

It just feels like to me, Grant wants to choose Latia. Okay, so actually, this was a big moment for me during the episode. Latia's whole date was the episode to me because she, I did not feel their connection as strongly as I usually do during their date, what was aired. I know, that sounds crazy because he ended the date with I love you, which actually threw me up. I was like, wait, have I been reading your body language wrong, sir? Because for the first time, I felt like Lettia wasn't the frontrunner until he said that. I thought that he seemed just bored behind the eyes.

I don't know what it was. His light in his eyes when he normally looks at her wasn't there. And my interpretation of that was that he was thinking of Juliana during this day and that he had switched. And he was now very connected to Juliana after their fantasy suite. and after that conversation that we saw. And then all of a sudden, he says, I love you. And I go, whoops, maybe they were just showing me thing. Like, they were just showing me body language from Grant that was throwing me off.

Maybe they did it intentionally. But yeah, he says, I love you, which can only make her think she is the one. And you'd really think that he was pretty certain she was the one too. But we see, of course, next week. he was absolutely not sure can i can i have my annual moment here can i take my annual moment that i annual moment yeah of course can i just again for the 10th straight year say justice for me i know i know i mean i got absolutely uh blasted blasted and once they erred this for me i think every season since then has had a moment like this.

I know. Like, they've had this place where they're like, I don't know what to do. This is so hard. I've never dated 30 women at one time. I don't know how to do it well. I don't know what the right words to say are. I don't know how to reassure but not give too much confidence. I don't know how to say things but not lead somebody on.

I'm feeling this now. So let me express it, even though I don't know if it's really true or how it's going to play out. it happens every year and somehow somehow now it's just a thing it's just a it's just the way this show goes the normal thing really but every year i have to take that moment and just get it out there because i'm selfish uh i'm hurt uh i'm so affected by the the response back then people saying that it was confusing, that it was mean, and I just have to take this second and say, once again, I'll put my stake in the ground and say, look at what's happening. I'm not alone. You should feel all the vindication that you feel. Thank you, Ashley. All right, we can move on.

You're welcome. We can move on. What was your interpretation of that date? Am I being dramatic? No, you're not being dramatic. I think I saw it differently. Mostly after the tell-all episode of Grant. I think Grant is tired, and I think he's very over it. I think he wants this to work still. And I do think Grant has been a bachelor that has been a good bachelor in the sense

that he does want this to work. And that is the most important item that we need in a lead. I though I see... What bachelor didn't want it to work? was it Juan Pablo? There's been a few. I won't name names,

but there's a few that I know went into it going, this is just going to be good for me. You can make assumptions off of that. But I think he looks tired. I think he looks over it. I think he looks frustrated. I'm sure he's been frustrated

just based on kind of the things that he's wanted out of this experience that he isn't getting. So when I see him and Latia together, it isn't that he's not into her. I think he's just not into any of this anymore. He doesn't, I'm going to be very interested in the final live show to see kind of his face. But maybe it was just me.

Well, I think he's going to be dreading the live show. Well, sure, we all, we all do. It's not fun. It's literally your roast. He might have the worst. Well, just he keeps teasing that he might have the worst. He's the one that says like everybody's going to hate me or something in the tease. Yeah.

Well, it's not going to be fun. I don't think anybody looks at it and goes, this is going to be a great movie. Joey did because he was still with Kelsey and he's like, this is going to be fine. Like, everybody and I, you know, get along. And everybody loved him. Everybody was just like, Joey, just want to let you know that like, he broke my heart, but I still love you. You're great, man. Hope you guys make it work.

So I just think this isn't going to be fun for Grant. So I don't necessarily see the chemistry side. Okay. I mean, I might be being dramatic in saying that. For some reason, it just didn't feel the same the way it usually feels. And I was like, ah, he's thinking about Giuliana. Might be wrong. Okay, so he obviously eliminates Zoe, the least dramatic row ceremony of all time.

Could you imagine what there, when you know how you were just talking about the feeling of when the door closes and you finally have a long time for the first time? I'm imagining that like the door closed and then he was like, oh, this is even more awkward with that. Yeah, he's like, hey, what do you want to do? You want to do a puzzle? I know. Like, what do you want to do? For two extremely hot people, it seems like they had absolutely no physical chemistry too. Like, you can't even really imagine.

And they have had to have some champagne flowing in that room. Yeah, that's fair. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.

Now he's insisting we get to know each other. but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.

I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Wilfredel from PodMeets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content.

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What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man, had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So last week when She's All Batch was on and you were in D.C., I did drop like a little something, something that we've been hearing. And that was that there may be a coin toss at the end of this thing that helps him in deciding who he's going to pick. We have no idea the

legitimacy of this. Like, somebody told us this a couple of theories on the way that this might go down. If, indeed, it is a thing. One, I don't think it's a thing because, or I don't think it's a thing that they're going to air because they haven't teased it. There's no way they air it. Oh, okay. Okay.

If they aired that, they might as well just then walk out with a white flag and be like, this has been a fun 25 years. The show's done. well you know what it's on its way so as minus will do it with a very hilarious moment i mean and hilarious to us and not hilarious to these two women or you just walk chris harrison out with the white flag and say hey guys i told you so that'd be even better oh and then he'd be like harrison out and boom that's really good that's good tv too okay so yeah i was going to say one thing why one theory is that it happened

and they're not going to air it because if they were going to air it it was going to be teased all season long all we were going to see was that like thumb going bloop in every teaser and then my second thing is like well he does it but they don't they don't tease it

that he does it and that they don't actually ever air it which is apparently yours so we'll actually never know whether it was a coin flip or not maybe we can get them on an ass He'll tell us. I don't think he has a lot to lose. No, he will not.

If he's still happy with this girl. Yeah, we'll wait to see how that plays out. The other thing we have to talk about before we wrap this, Ben, is he says, I love you to Latia, but we still think that he, but he obviously is so, so torn next week that he obviously feels the same way about Giuliana. He's going to probably end up saying, I love you to Juliana. I guess how does one just, how does it flip so fast? I guess it does.

I guess it flips you keep saying that. it flips so it can you can truly not know until like a day or two before yeah i don't know if it flips as much as you get some clarity or you start to do like the pros and cons i mean this it's such a weird way to try to find a forever partner that you do things and think through things that you would never do in a natural healthy relationship you literally are comparing two people and you're saying what's the pros and what's the cons to eat and I get to choose. It's not healthy.

It's not, I would say it's very rare that when you're this conflicted, it's going to end up working afterwards. Which is why it really hasn't worked many times. That's what I'm saying. And so if I had to place a bet, I don't know who he's with. And I wish Grant the best. I do. I want him happy.

I want whoever he's with happy. That's not the point here. I would just say if I was a betting person, I would say this relationship probably isn't either working right now. or it's on its way to not be working because it affects both people very deeply and it isn't the healthiest way to kick off something new and fresh. If we look back in Bachelor history, the ones that have made it work are the ones that it was pretty clear outside of Desire and Chris.

But I still think it was clear than what the show led on there. I think it was a lot clear to them. So that's my thoughts, Ashley. The previews for the rest of the season are emotional. They're dramatic, like always. I do think, if anything, if you're listening to this and you haven't watched any of Grand's season yet, I understand I'm not going to shame, watch, like, watch Shame You or whatever.

I would say tune into the final episode because I think no matter what, it's going to be entertaining and it's going to be truly one of the most dramatic endings we've ever seen in Bachelor history. I agree. For one of the weakest seasons, sorry. guys. I do think that the finale will be one of the more compelling ones because he really doesn't know. I don't think he knows and I don't think he has a great path to knowing. And that's how we're going to end this. We're going to be back breaking down, obviously, the rest of the season.

It hasn't been a season that we would say was a home run. It hasn't been one that we've been on our edge of the seat on the edge of our seats for. But I do think if you haven't watched all season, tune in to the final episode next week it's going to be something that is talked about that is memorable and that probably makes you a little squeamish and awkward i would expect this episode to have all the goods um in it better because i do i do know this the show has enough content from this week to make it really good it just matters how it's shown And my final thought is that I think that he's not going to say, I love you, Juliana, until the altar, as in, you know, the final role is alter. Yeah, wherever that sets.

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