The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - The Toddler Jump with Heather McDonald

Episode Date: February 19, 2019

Comedian Heather McDonald is hanging out with Ashley to help recap this week’s episode of The Bachelor, Colton’s stance against getting groped,  and when flirtation goes too far. And do we really buy the girls excitement on the show? Is all the enthusiasm fake?? Then Arie checks in to give us all the backstory about his new billboard, which you need to see if you haven’t yet. Plus, we talk to Carly Waddell about her new lullaby album, and she reveals a huge change coming to her family.   Also, Ashley lets us in on what the “right reasons” are to go on The Bachelor, and Heather gets her to spill on some huge behind the scenes Bachelor secrets!And we have some shocking information about Ben at the end of the podcast that you definitely want to hear. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I was hanging on to every moment. I watched it until 2 a.m. night because my intention was you know watch half now watch half in the morning and i couldn't it was too good i had to keep going even jared kept going and watching it with me i'm going to call jared in a minute and i first want to introduce my co-host for the day because ben is down in honduras it is hether mcdonald hello how are you thank you for the applause Heather, I first met you when I was on your podcast, and we talked about being a 27-year-old virgins.

Being old virgins, yeah. You had me on because, you know, we could bond over that. Yes, exactly. It's been such a great career move now for people. You know, I tried to capitalize it back in the day. I did. I tried to get on real world using that as my ticket. And you didn't?

I think, like, back then it was harder. Like, you couldn't just, like, email somebody. So I think I wrote a letter and like never sent it. But I did think like, God, if I just get to the casting people, I think they'd be impressed that I was a virgin. Like, that would make me weird or something and they'd want me. But I don't think I never tried out for it. I just watched the show.

You and I have a similar mind. It is good. Then we got the Heather girl this time. Never been kissed. But then she did get kissed up. Okay. We'll talk about that later because that exit was a little bizarro to me. But you also know Heather because she is, she used to be.

a frequent guest on Chelsea well I wrote and produced the show for the whole seven and a half years I was on the show the whole time on and then but that's where people probably recognize me the most yes and you're a comedian and you now have juicy scoop with Heather McDonald it's an awesome podcast thank you funny thank you yes you are the guest and yeah it's going great I just came back from doing six shows this weekend to doing lots of stand-up and I do live podcast live juicy scoop podcast as well with guests and stuff so that's fun So I do both shows, so people follow me.

They were in Denver this week. I'm going to go to Denver. Just work that in. Oh, yeah. I've never been to Denver, just been at the airport a couple times. Oh, that's fun. Yeah, the airport's really nice. It is a nice airport that airport.

Yes. Home of Ben Higgins and his appearance on The Bachelor. Oh, the airport? Ben was on, not the airport. Ben met him in Denver. Oh, and Ben. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, of course.

Yes, of course. I just watched it moments ago. I thought you were talking about Ben just being on the show and being from Denver. Not the fact that the two of them met in Denver. We did. Ben was on the podcast. Ben is actually not on the podcast right now, but he was on this episode of The Bachelor. Giving advice.

He gave some advice, you know. It was vague, but in the best Ben way possible. Can I just say, you know, the dad, who right from the start, okay, when we met Colton's dad, and he told whoever it was, Becca, don't pick my son if you're not going to go all the way with them. Meaning, like, take him to marriage, not sex-wise.

And I was like, oh, that dad's, he's a little dad manager. He saw right then. No, no, no. Save this virgin. He'll be the bachelor. Oh. And he gave just as good advice. He's been, that, Colton's dad has not missed an episode of The Bachelor.

since the very beginning. I think Colton, Ashley, I would love to hear what you say on this too. I think Colton, a lot of who he is has been determined by that father, good and bad.

Interesting. Oh, yeah. No, totally. He is a dadger, but you can tell he was also like Mr. Coach when he was in football. And he was probably just like the tough,

he was a tough dad, teddy bear dad, where sometimes he was a mush, but a lot of the times Colton was kind of scared to talk to him about certain things. Right, and his parents are divorced, right? Yeah.

Yeah. So did they each have a step parent with him at the meeting? Yeah, that's what it looked like. All right. Okay, well, we were going to get more into the episode in a little bit. So much to break down. But first, I'm going to make an announcement. Jared and I, as you guys know, wrote, I mean, you probably know because you listen to the podcast.

And I figure that you follow me to a certain extent because of that. We had a book come out last week. It's called Lucy and Clark, a story of puppy love. It's loosely based on our love story. It's a story about overcoming your fears and the magic that can happen when you step out of your comfort zone. It's kind of things that we had to overcome in order to be together the way we are now. So we were on Good Morning America last week and Access talking about it. It was so exciting.

It's really awesome that it's come out. We kept the secret for a long time. The idea of it initiated in May. Because a lot of people when we came out about our relationship were like, you should write a book about it. And we're like, we're not going to write like a book about it. We already talked about everything you guys need to know in the story of us. We're like, but we could start, we could write a children's book about the lessons that we've had to learn through it all. So that it started out as like just a silly idea we thought we had and then it evolved into a real children's book and kind of started getting going on it in November.

and all of a sudden, we're able to put it out so quickly, and it's just really, really close to our hearts. So you can get that at lucy and Clarkbook.com, and we are going to do something very special with the book. We invite Heather. I hope Heather will come. Oh, Heather, we'd love you to. Sure.

It's in Malibu. So that's close. Are there past apps and cocktails? Yeah, there are sweet treats and cocktails. Okay. Okay, great. So. Oh, that's good enough.

I'm going to have to get a little something before. I just don't just have. And we might hit Mr. Chow after. Okay, well, then I'll go ahead. I was going to say I don't go to parties unless there's food either. I need a full meal. I'm so, I'm not that person that doesn't eat. I'm like, what's the food situation?

So just do a diverse, dessert first, then Mr. Chow with us. Well, remember when we were at that Halloween party when I said the holiday, we were like in the second food vendor line because we're like, yeah, it's free food. We're going to have all the food then. I had like two full-blown burgers at that thing. Yeah. It's good. That's what's going to like keep me from my like wedding diet is just all. All the free food.

Yeah, just go for it. Who cares? All right. Well, anyway, back to our party, our book party. Ben and I are going to do a live podcast from Planet Blue in Malibu, California on March 4th. We're celebrating the book so you can come shop, you bring your kids. So you shop at Planet Blue. It's a really, really nice clothing store around here in California.

It is cute. It's really cute. We're going to have food. We're going to have drinks. Ben and I are going to be doing a podcast. You can listen in on that. Maybe we'll have some guests in the audience. Come on.

We definitely will have celebrity bachelor guests. Well, celebrity bachelor guests. That's true. Anybody in the California area. Why don't I keep saying California area? The L.A. area. They can come from San Francisco. Yeah.

Why not? The California State. Bring the kids, kids friendly. And then we are auctioning off something really cool. After the party, we're going to have a private dinner with me, Jared, and Ben. And celebrities. Heather and Heather and other bachelor surprises at Mr. Chows in Malibu if you've never been I'm the only time I've ever been to Mr. Chows was on a really bad date like so I've been to the

Malibu one it's just been totally redone it's great you have to talk to more about the bad Mr. Chow's yeah let's hear about your bad Mr. Oh I mean it just was silent we had nothing to say to each other how did it was a blind date it was it was I was set up always set up that's like the only dates I went on so was it truly a blind date like you nobody even like text you to do a photo of him? Um, maybe I looked him up. I must have looked him up. Should we tell Jared about it? Oh, no, no, no. Hey, babe.

Jared. He doesn't like hearing about it. Like, even if it was literally over three years ago. He can handle it. Babe. What don't I like hearing about? Oh, we were talking about how, you know how after our party at Planet Blue on the 4th, we're going to have a special dinner that we're auctioning off for charity at Mr. Chows. I was just saying that the only time I've been to Mr. Chow's before was on a really

awkward date. Oh, I'm okay hearing old date story. Old date and it was awkward. Never led to a second. I actually ran into the guy on the street a couple months later. And we were like, oh, hi. Oh, hi. It's good to see you.

Bye. It was weird. So awkward. Okay, anyway, but if you want to bid on this dinner with Jared, me, our other, Ben, and other bachelor favorites, go to if only. dot com so you're going to get the private dinner you're going to go to the party we're going to go mr chow's like the most fancy restaurant in l.a just just bit on it you know if only dot com support the book and you guys will read the book at planet blue oh yeah we're going to do a little

children's reading Jared better get his voice ready for a reading i think my voice sounds pretty good for a reading i think it's kind of deductible i guess not just for a children's book reading though. So maybe I should really get an order. We should have your dad fly out here for this. So his dad, I don't know if you caught this on Instagram. You guys can go to Jared's Instagram to see Jared's dad reading the book to Clark himself. The dog, the book is based on.

And he seems like, what's the actor's name in Elf? Jared. Will Ferrell? No. The elf, dad elf. What is it Bob? It's Bob Hope. Bob Hope.

Bob Hope. Yeah. I'm sorry. Flag on the play. Bob Hope is in the movie. No, no, no. Bob Hope was dead before that. Bob Hope was way dead.

You're thinking, I know who you think. Why do we both think it was Bob Hope? Hold on. I know who you're thinking of. It's another old comic. He had an old show. Bob Newhart. Bob Newhart.

Bob Newhart. Who is alive and well praise. Okay. All right. Well, he's alive, but we just saw him at the Grammys, I think. And it was, I mean, he's like 90. I mean, amazing. But, like, he's very old.

Well, yeah, but he's doing great. And he was just, like on Jimmy Kimmel. Okay, good. Leave Bob Newhart alone. I'm just saying he's great, but I'm saying, you know, when you get to a certain age, it is a little jarring and you see them on TV.

I'm just saying, sorry. We're all going to be there one day. I'm just saying, it's not like he's tap dancing. I mean, he's 90. Sorry, but another, what's his face when Mary Poppins was tap dancing? Oh my God. Why can I not think of his name right now?

No. Dick Van Dyke. That's pretty impressive. He's the coolest. That's so cool. I read an article that they were... I'll be happy. Yeah, I read an article

they were all worried if he was going to be able to do it and he like nailed it like 10 times. It was like, boom, take that. That's awesome. Classic Ashley podcast, guys, we are all over the place. I love it.

I think it's fun to just ramble. Jared, tell them what you did for me. Well, it was a little uneventful on the actual Thursday because we were traveling so much so we just stayed in and ordered it on Thursday night.

But I went to go get Ashley purple roses because we can't give each other red roses anymore because it's just too much of a cliche at this point. And I got her a box of chocolates and then a box of chocolate covered strawberries.

Is that all like I have? Yeah. It's okay. And then the next night, that Friday night, we went to one of our favorite restaurants in Los Angeles called the Smokehouse. You guys are actually about 10 minutes from that.

I said we're two minutes. Huh? I said we're two minutes away. Two minutes away, excuse me. Sorry, I don't know my Los Angeles geography that well. One of our favorite restaurants is definitely old school, feels like an East Coast restaurant, has a parking lot, which is a game changer. Jerry loves parking lots.

It's so underrated. The idea of trying to find parking, I always get parking tickets because I'm always parked in a wrong spot or I don't read the sign correctly. It's just horrible. So anyway, then we went to go. see the movie isn't it romantic and so it was like a typical Valentine's

day dinner a movie it was fun though that's our thing we like dinner at movies yeah that's our favorite thing we don't care how cliche it is we thought the movie was so good too we really liked it was super cute yeah what is her the actresses name why can't think of it Rebel Wilson

Rebel Wilson yeah it was good it was fun I thought she looks so pretty in it okay It would look beautiful. Okay, so there's something serious we got to talk about here. Last Wednesday, Colton was groped at his own charity event in San Diego. Should I say? By a man or a woman?

By a woman. A woman. Yeah. He said after, so basically what he did was he got groped. He was in the middle of taking a whole bunch of pictures with fans. And then after this, you know, he was like, no, I'm not doing this anymore. So he cut the photos, the party short, and he wrote on Instagram that he didn't sign up to be a piece of meat or a zoo animal. And he said, sorry if you didn't get a picture of the event last night.

But at one point during the event, I was grabbed and touched inappropriately. While people were throwing cameras in my face, I'm the type of person who would have stood in line for hours to make sure that everybody who supported the event got a picture. but once that happened, I had to do what was best for me as a human being. It happened at Maverick's Beach Club in San Diego. The event was supposed to run from six to nine, but he cut it short and all the proceeds from the $25 tickets were going to go to his foundation, the Legacy Foundation. And he feels really sorry for it.

Well, I have something to comment about that. Yeah, please. Because I watched when you were doing, you were hosting the first premiere episode, right? Yeah. With some, like, regular fans. Yeah. And I thought it was extremely gross and sexist. I thought, like, the horny woman that, like, was missing teeth and saying that, oh, Ben is my

hall pass or my husband, I was like, if that was a 50-year-old man saying that Ashley I was their hall pass, we would be, like, up in arm saying, this is so gross, turn it off. Isn't that crazy? But because women could, like, I don't like that. I don't like it. I don't like it with gay hosts flirting with other gay men. or straight men and the straight men have to take it. I don't like it when an old woman is like

with to like 25 year old men as a mother of boys. I think if we're going to stand there and want equality, which we do and have respect in the workplace, that should be every workplace. So I say, good for you, Colton. Oh, yeah.

And don't be such a gross person. If you're going to come to this thing, have fun, but don't be like some fucking old bitch trying to grab his junk. That is so crazy. I'm so glad that you're here to like say things that I feel like I really can't say. I'll say it. No, I love

your comments there. And I wanted, that woman was disturbing. I don't know who picked her out. The old woman that you had to be, we'll be honest. It was, she was a backup. Because the woman who was supposed to be the older lady that day, her husband landed in the hospital

that morning. But again, why do we think that's a cute, that an old woman wants to like screw someone 40 years younger than her? Why is that okay? It is really weird. It's a double standard for sure. I mean, granted, you know, people run out of ideas and no one speaks up to say it's a bad idea, but that's what happens. Okay, so I wanted to have Jared on the line still when we had this conversation because after the show, about a year after Jerry was on The Bachelor, I have no idea whether it was because he was on TV or not, he still doesn't know, but he was actually groped at a club.

Babe, tell the story. Tell us what that, like, what's the difference between like a flirty person? petting and a groping like I don't know like she grabbed his yeah I think if you grab somebody inappropriately that's that's groping compared to maybe brushing

shoulders or someone would be more petting or like a butt tap it's supposed to not a butt tap even a butt tap I think is crossing the line could you imagine a guy tapping a girl on a butt nope you're right standard I don't think any type of inappropriate

touching is inappropriate And so I completely agree with Colton. We didn't sign up to be zoo animals. I do think that we did sign up to be criticized and judged. That's kind of what we signed up for being a reality TV star. You can't take the good without the bad. But in terms of any inappropriate touching, Coleman is absolutely right. There was one time I was at a club.

This was about a few, maybe a year after the show. I don't know if I had anything to do with me on the show. But we were at a crowded place. And we're getting like to the bar. You're squeezing in between people. and some girl she was so drunk she just turned around and then she looked me up and down and then just grabbed me i'm assuming you can figure out where and then just grazed her hand up my stomach to my chest and it was a it was hold on i'm having a little bit of an orgasm right now

oh there we go um talk a little slower jared please i know i handle a little bit was a chest hair trimmed or just just a few hair for fun. No, I've never turned my chest. You know, he's Harry, man. Okay, all right. But I like chest hair. I'm always going to let it grow.

So anyway, I just, I reacted differently than Colton. I just walked away. I didn't let it bother me that much because it was just not to say his reaction is wrong or my reaction is wrong. I just had a different reaction. And his mind, I let it kind of roll off my shoulders. You know, what can I put myself out of the situation, which he did as well, obviously. But also, I'm thinking we don't know how the show ends, right?

We don't know. You probably do, but I don't know how to nests. And so assuming he's with his girl, he definitely doesn't want this to get back to his girl and cause any problems. So that was another reason why he was probably like, maybe there were witnesses, maybe a girl took a photo and he's like, I got to nip this in the bed now that have it like haunt me later. I was going to say it's disgusting either way whether you're taken or not. But I do feel like if you are engaged or in a serious relationship, Mary, blah, blah, blah, you're probably going to take it even more seriously. Yeah, and eyes are everywhere, especially in his kids. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, totally. I mean, it's just wrong either way. And it's something that I'm glad he spoke up about because I think it is kind of something that has been glossed over because a lot of it, a lot of the attention on any type of inappropriate touching and touching women. But I'm glad that he spoke up and was like, no, women at bars can be very requested too. So. All right.

Well, thank you. Thank you, love. Of course. words. Thanks for calling in. All right. Bye. And you guys, don't forget, if you want to come hang out with Jared, me, and Ben will be at Planet Blue in Malibu, and you can bid on this at if only.com.

But it's a general admission. You can come in, just come in and hang. But if you want to possibly win a private dinner with its afterward, head over to if only.com. Will you put the info on your stories? Yes. I will definitely be doing a story on Instagram so you guys can, like, just. wipe up on that. All righty. All right. Before we move on and break into the

episode, got to talk about something that I know Colton must use because his teeth are so good. Aren't his teeth good, Heather? They really are. He must use quip. It's one of the best things you can do for your teeth because Quip was a toothbrush that was designed to make brushing simple, affordable, and even enjoyable. I don't know about you, but I dread brushing my teeth. teeth every night. I use quip. I have quip too. You do? Yes, I do. I love it. And you like I absolutely love it. Yeah. So before quip, I was like, oh, I don't want to brush my teeth.

I definitely didn't brush them long enough. Yeah. And they, right, now they have the little timer for you 30 second pulses. That's right. So what I love about quip is that it tells you when you move your brush around because I don't know. I'm weird. I always concentrate on the bottom teeth before I had the timer. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, okay. Or you favor one side. Yeah, totally. Um, 90% of us don't brush for a full two minutes and they don't clean evenly. So Quip has this built-in timer. It's going to help you get a full, even clean. Brush heads are automatically delivered on a dentist recommended schedule of every three months

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with the first date. Okay. With Taisha. Okay. Well, first of all, Tasha. Tasha. First of all, I'm shocked. that he even liked her that much from what I saw the last since the start of the you know the season I was like wow I'm kind of shocked that they like were that compatible I didn't really see that he was super into her until then so what about on their first date I do think that their first date a couple weeks ago was kind of forgettable the one where they bungee jumped oh yes that's right the bungee jumped oh god I always think about that like what if you really don't want to I know right and then they're like oh my god you really challenge me thank God that we both jumped off this thing together

And it's like, what if you're just like, you know what? Hey, yeah, I told the producers I was scared of heights, but I'm not doing it. Like, I would never bungee cord jump ever. I've jumped out of a plane. What? When I was 23, I did the tandem sky jumping because honestly, I didn't have a lot going on in my life. I swear to God. And I just was like, oh, bucket list.

Like, I basically felt like this is as good as my life's going to get. So I freaking die coming out. And then after that, I was like, oh, my God. That was so dumb. Like, you don't have to jump. Everyone has to get in a car and drive. everyone has to get on a plane and fly across the East Coast in their lifetime. Except not Amy.

She doesn't do it. Really? She doesn't fly. Has it flown since 1999. Really? Okay. And I don't go in elevators. I know about the elevator thing.

Kim Zolziak doesn't go to elevators either. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, I love that. So, but I understand. But like, you have to get in a car. You have to drive it. You do not have to jump out of a plane and you do not have to do a jump a bungee cord.

So I just am like, whatever. But I think I liked that they've got to. to walk around. Here's my question. I'm always obsessed with the fact that they never eat. They eat in their rooms before and then they have to have that food sit there. And only Ari a couple times when he was really bored with his dates just went for the second state. I ate. I always ate all my dates. So when they made that salmon and the Brussels sprouts and the carrots and he's behind her cutting the carrots. Like that was so awkward. I'm like, that is the most, I've never in my life I've been married 18 years. If my husband came around and tried to cut carrots with me like that,

I'd be like, are you planning on killing me while? Are you going to like turn the knife to me? What the hell is this? I will say, I felt weird watching that too. I was like, that's different than like being at a batting cage and the guy like flirtaciously putting his arms around you teaching you have a swing. Yeah. Yeah.

So here's my question. I don't think they got to eat that food either. They did. They may have. It's all your choice. They literally don't tell you don't eat it. They'll just say you're not going to look as appealing on TV. Right.

if you're eating that salmon, yeah. I don't know. I think it makes you look real and therefore more likable. Yeah, I think I say eat her. But I don't like her at all. I think she's a real bitch. Wait, wait a second.

This is shocking. So you're telling, she's being a bitch about these girls. I don't care. Look, they're all there. They're all there to be on TV. And the hopes that maybe I'll fall in love with Colton, but I'm doing this so that I can have a podcast one day.

That is their goal. I have a question for you both on that, Because there's so much controversy in this episode. Right. Did she say she might want to be the Bachelorette? Don't we think that all the girls could be saying, I hope Colton picks me, but if not, I hope I'm the Bachelorette. They're saying that in their head, it does start drama if anybody whispers it at all.

But they're, okay, so they're, but they're just saying that they maybe heard it. We haven't seen the footage. You know, if they were just sort of talking about, what would you do after this? Well, I'll probably move to L.A. like if I don't end up with Colton and if I don't go on Bachelor in Paradise I probably would but yeah I'd like to get some Instagram followers and I'd like to go

on Ashley I's podcast and I'm gonna go show up at her book signing I mean like it is what it is but couples do work out you being one of them you know it does but I mean it's dumb to say that are you not here for the right reasons whatever all of that I don't have an issue if one

of them said maybe I would want to be the bachelor's it seems like you're all thinking it but also in the formula of this thing. Whenever you're the girl talking about the other girls that aren't here for you, they never win. They never win. They're wasting their time talking about the other person.

You should be so confident into yourself that you don't have to be the little narque going around and telling you. And the other girl, Kirby, whatever her name is. Kerpa. Kerpa. Did we ever find out why she had that Band-Aid on her? Yeah, we did. There's a mystery as to why

she had a phone or a camera, but she was taking a picture on her. a wet rock on the surf and then slipped she went to the u-er got six stitches okay well i really felt they needed to explain that to the viewers it was a deleted scene they put it on on twitter afterward because i and then at a certain point i'm like i think i'd just rather have the stitches out like that that looks so weird it was just so like really band-aid girls getting a rose like i was just like i'd be forget it but wait i just had so many things that i needed to say to you keep going okay we're talking about the date with cash what's her name uh the date with with tasha tasha okay okay now it's just so

interesting to me that you are team cassie and kaelin in this episode because i couldn't be more team tasha in the rest of the house why because they're brunettes i feel you might be a little prejudice towards the typical blonde spinning girls that go real far on these shows okay that's really funny it is a whole different thing i do feel like the Vernet's our underdogs in the series. Always. Yeah. Always.

Right for the start, he felt more, right from the start, I was like, okay, Cassie, the two beauty queens and the other one that I predict will go next week. Yeah, Hannah G will go. You think Hannah G is going to go home? Over Kirby, yes. Were you confused? No, not go home. He's going to pick Hannity over Kirby.

Are you confused by all his, like, crying? I thought it was a little dramatic. I'm like, what's he worrying about so much? Well, he's so like, if I come to the end of this and someone doesn't want to be here with me. I'm like, God, you really don't have confidence. Like, you really, I mean, it is a little weird. And I do think in all, and I've watched every season of it, this is the most women that have left on their own. Never have, we're up to like five checks that are like, not for me. Okay, so we had Sydney. Then we had Kate. Wait, what? Was Kate? Elise. Elise, which was bizarre. And now this episode

we have Heather. I mean, this is the most that I've just like gone on their own. This is the weirdest. thing. I think Heather knew. She was like, there's two roses, two girls say, two girls go. I know I'm going. So I'm going to exit myself to make it look like I'm leaving with the power because I know I'm going to get a womanated. Because the second she pulled him aside, she goes, so let's be real, this isn't going to happen. I'm going to go home. I was like, whoa. He did say, I really need to know if you guys don't really feel it. And so I do think that Heather is so, and by the way, I love that she's, her name's Heather and she's only 23. My name is like becoming Gladys. So like, Heather's for Heather's, keeping Heather's

hot for generations to come. Thank you. And for any young girl's pregnant with a child that's a girl or will identify as a girl, please name her Heather. Oh, my goodness. That's my public service. That's my charity. I'm not in Honduras, but I am trying to spread the word of Heather. Just say, or make it a middle name. Why not? Do you think she really didn't feel it, though? I think she really liked him. She had her first kiss with him. She's obviously going to be connected to. She's like the hottest geek I've ever seen in my life. I'm the only one right now who. I don't know who she was. She's tall, very tall and thin. First kiss. Long blonde hair. Never had a kiss. Yeah. And I felt like he didn't even want to do it.

When I was, if I'm like, if they don't, if he does not just freaking give her the kiss, like if he's like, you really think he was still more special. Thank God he gave her that kiss and she could like, she would have gone home without being kissed. I would have been furious. Heather, as 27 year old virgin when was your first kiss oh my god i was like 15 okay i was 14 or 15 and people are like ugh the bachelor kiss is so not special he's kissing everyone i'm like no at 19 years old if you could tell me like you're going to have your first kiss with the bachelor on tv with fireworks he's going to be hot it's going to be epic i would have been like sign me up your first kiss is never like who's who looks at their first kiss and you're like oh that was so

good. My kiss was so bad I bit my own tongue in the process of my first French kiss. I didn't know how to do it. Yeah. But you would have wanted to have your first kiss on the show, right? I remember the person's name, but yes. Well, sure. I mean, I think the show, you know, it is so interesting, though. Sometimes I'm like

that girls are still going on it and want to be on it because I, this is the thing I want to ask you, why do you always have to scream and act like you're so excited all the time? Well, they tell us too. Yeah. That's the same thing with that. It's called, I've trademarked it. It's called the toddler jump.

They have a name for it. I thought it was the koala bear jump, but she's... I called the toddler jump because it's like he's the dad and little girl's running and then he has to stay in a spot where the camera's blocked and then she runs, jumps, does the toddler jump. And there was a really bad toddler jump the other day. It was with the Kirby girl or whatever knows. Oh, yeah, because Kirby, in her own essence, should never do that.

That's not her. Curpa. Curpa. Why did I just say? Kirby now? I mess up everyone's name. So that one I put on my Instagram story because it was like she did it and he literally like just squished her back down.

Like he didn't hold it. Like the other girls like Cassie and the other one who took a shower with or someone he like literally gets them up there and he's like holding them in the shower like got his hands around their ass cheeks like he's into her Kirby. He was just probably afraid he was going to mess up her Band-Aid. She had the Band-Aid on. It's not in Curva's person. personality to do that.

Not me either. I never did it. No, I don't, but I can tell she's curious. Well, she did it. She tried it. She tried because she was like, I got to be like all the other girls. Yeah, well. I could never do that.

Me neither. I'm just very obsessed with the infighting. I want to talk about the infighting again. Okay, so just from my perspective, you're right, the whole wrong reasons thing, I can't do with it. I can't deal with it. I can't deal with it because I always say,

I've always said from the very beginning, don't believe in the wrong reasons. If you are going on because you think that this man is your person, you are, I'm scared for you, you know? Now, what's different is if you get in the Bachelor bubble and all of a sudden you're there for the right reasons because you like him so much, that's what you hope for.

You hope that your initial intention going on to the show is to have a cool experience, once in a lifetime opportunity, make some new friends create a business whatever that's how you should enter with the open mind that if you like the person

the ultimate goal would be to find your husband like that would be awesome like that would be the coolest perk of all time but that shouldn't be your intention now if you get in the bachelor bubble and then you once you're in the bachelor bubble it's crazy because then you stop thinking about

all the things that come with it. I don't know, because when I was on the original show, Instagram, like, wasn't a thing. Right. So I can't really speak for what these girls are like now. I can only imagine they're like, must make the next week, must make the next week, because that's next year 50,000 followers.

Or a better chance you'll get on the Bachelor in Paradise. Right. Yeah. So all this didn't exist when I was on, but the thing is when you get into the bubble, if it's all working the way they want it to, you don't even think about the perks outside. the bubble because all you want is the bachelor is the bubble like equal to saying in the house

yeah well the bubble is like in your specific season or is it like bachelor nation no i think it's like when you get invested in your season when you're like just disconnected from your outside world all the people that you know and love outside the bachelor bubble and you start just feeling all the emotions that happen inside it and I think what you what is right at this point especially in like this week seven is that you should be developing hardcore feelings and if you are not developing hardcore feelings then you have to leave if you're still thinking about the perks that you're going to get from the show and less of the bachelor I have a question did the girl that he brought back to his apartment that he she put on the shirt did she spend the

night? No. Well, they rolled around in the bed together. I mean, I know they didn't bone, but like, I thought that was kind of interesting. But does that make sense? Like, if they're still talking about, like, the perks are going to get after the show, right now, you're like, oh, you must really not like him. Because that right now, being with him should sound better than being the next bachelorette. You should like him more than the idea of being the next bachelorette right now. I just think it's a lot of time that you're sitting around. They don't let you, you know, read a book or watch TV. And you might just start talking about other things. things you want to do in your life. And that might be, well, if this works out, you know, I do like

fashion. I'd like to start a blog or whatever. And then someone's like, she's not here for the right reasons. I don't know. Okay. All right. Well, let me say this because there was another part that bothered me about the show. Yeah. When they had to meet sniper the dog, okay? Yeah. On the group date. And they're all running and they're like gushing. A dog is sniper dog. I was, I wrote like, oh my God, these girls are thirstier than the real housewives trying to one up each other when they congratulate, do congratulations posts on Andy's new baby. Like every, every time Andy posts about his baby, like 45 of them repost it. And they like, Andy Cohen's new baby.

Yes. And they have to, and I'm like, that's the way it felt with the dog. Like, oh, my God, it's sniper, it's sniper. You know there's one girl in there. It's like, not really that into dogs. But she's like, oh, he's sniper. Okay. I do agree with her.

Everything. That makes me so weird, you guys. This is what I can't stand about the show. And something that I never, not to shoot my own horn here, but never did. I never got, like, overly excited for stupid things. Like, like the ice cream? Like, we're getting ice cream. Oh, my God, I'm so excited for ice cream.

I've never once in my life. I've been excited for ice cream, but I've never, like, been on a date and be like, we're getting ice cream? Oh, my God. Ice cream is so cool. And dogs, too, I'd be like, dogie. I literally one time, remember I was, we were in Santa Fe, and I saw a dog for the first time in like three weeks and it was the most exciting thing ever and I was like doggy I did not say oh my god

it's a talk and I just I can't and then she's like got the chocolate on her butt I'd be like oh I got chocolate on my butt not like oh my goodness there's chocolate on my butt oh my god this is so embarrassing ha ha ha this is the funniest thing ever I can't do it I know I feel like it's so fake yeah and then the screaming when you go to certain places oh my god uh I mean yeah when you They have to run down the airport. When you're doing that and when you're walking into a hotel, it's, you know, they tell you, be like, ooh, and oh, blah, blah, blah. So they tell you, if they tell you to do it that I do it.

It's always just like when you walk in and it's just like two couches and a coffee table. You're like, all right. Like you're not seeing the Eiffel Tower. Like, I got a Denver like Hilton. I wish, like, bitter old me could go on that show. I'd be like, I don't want to go to Vietnam and I don't want to go to Singapore. Can I just say Vietnam? And I don't want to go to Denver.

I want to go. home why does it always look overcast at those places too like i want to be at some place that's like good sun who was the poor girl that was literally freezing it was like a blizzard was that rachel or that was a windstorm somebody which show this season no this is like i'm just thinking in the past remember nick went to nick went somewhere like in like the north pole but somebody was getting proposed to and it was like a tornado was happening oh oh that was rachel yeah that was in Spain to get me away from here. Oh, that's this, all of this is just so very funny. Oh my God. I love it. I'm going to be random again. Yes. I just got the worst vibes from Kalin and

Cassie this, this episode. So Kaelin and Hannah, the other Hannah that got the boot. They are the two beauty queens that went up against each other, correct? Hannah B. Hannah B and Kaylin were the arch, the arch enemy is about the beauty pageant. Yes. Okay, here's another thing. When you're all sitting around, you know, with your glasses and your Zit cream and you're waiting to see if Hannah G is... Her suitcase goes. Yeah. And then Hannaby, whatever. And the suitcase goes, I have to say, you know what? All you girls are great actors. Because how is, not one, just like, yes, one down. And especially the beauty queen one. Like, you've got to be. Everyone's like, like, she was just murdered. And you're like, aren't you guys happy? Like, one less is like,

it's what you want. Oh, absolutely. At this point. too you should be like celebrating it's all so fake it's so and how that they all could be like oh and then and the other part i also hate is when they do the gate the the date card yeah and then like okay they read ashly i Heather ab and the person's like that's me they have to do those little faces like you're like the ninth name you're like you can't be happy that you're the ninth name okay i like the way i just want to say really quick about how many emails we're going to get this week about being too mean. So I already know they're coming. Bring them our way. They're going to be like Ashley's a hypocrite. We're not supporting the women enough. So I'm just saying it out there

that I feel you in your emails. Send on in. Listen, listen, these women after this, in about 10 years from now, they can go on seeking sister and wives. Okay, they can share another man then. Come on. It's a dumb show. Who cares? It's a fun show. I watch it. I support the show, ABC, Mike Place. Come on. Well, people are going to say I'm a hypocrite because I did the exact same. thing. No, you guys, I didn't. I remember, like, in week, my week five, I got mad at all the girls because I was like, why do you want her to get the rose? You shouldn't. If you really like him, you shouldn't be encouraging and happy when another girl gets the rose. You should be sad. I told my boys, I go, listen, if this show still going on and I'm like at a dinner party

with Mike Fleiss because I've met him once before with Chris Jenner, but not like you'd remember me. But if I say, hey, and like, my son's got to have something else going for him. Like, maybe he'll he'll really go far in golf or something and I'll be like and they pick you for the bachelor would you do it and he said he would okay and then he goes but I do not want to do a group date golfing because I know that they'll do that mom I know they'll be like six girls and I don't want to do that and I'm like oh my god can you imagine all the girls like oh we get the golf like running down the golf with their clubs yes but I'm like please do it because that way I'll get at least get to be on TV once well I get to meet me oh the other thing I want to say

Kiss of death, kiss of death in the series is when he takes you to meet the parents before you're supposed to meet the parents. Oh my God, you're so right. You're so right. It happened to like a couple other people. Ari brought, who did Ari bring? Some blonde bimbo did to Scottsdale's or something. Oh my God.

Who was that? Was it Crystal? Did he bring Crystal? It was Crystal. Yeah. And then I feel like I've done it once before, too. Didn't you do it with twins? Yes.

Ben did it with Emily and Haley and then Haley went home. Emily stayed. Twins, yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. Did you see Ari's Billboard in Phoenix? Yes, we actually have Ari coming on later in the podcast and talk about that. A juicy scooper who listened to my show. They send it to me.

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really did have a pretty great home? Like you came from some bucks, dad's got a boat, possibly a private jet. Like, wouldn't you want to get that out to Colton? Like, oh, my God, I know you play football, but, like, we own a team. I go, whatever. Like, you know, like, I would go on to work that in. Well, I'm sure they probably would.

I feel bad sometimes when people don't have the great family, and I know I've heard this to, and maybe you can't attest to it or not, that when they don't, they, like, rent them a house and stuff. They kind of help set it up so it doesn't, so it's not as depressing. There have been times where, like, if the family is, like, you know, if, like, one mom lives there, one dad lives there, and then we need, like, a mutual meeting. zone they'll use a friend's house or something like that yeah and if like the whole crew can't fit in it that's that's true i don't think it happens very often uh i want to go back to when you were talking about

how the girls shouldn't be happy for another when the date card comes in i give cassie props for crying sad tears when her friend caylin got the date card this week i was like okay yeah she's being real she's crying this is good yeah so maybe she isn't a phony that that everyone's saying she is. I don't think Cassie is that I don't want to sit another day in this house. Like I'm getting bummed out. I miss my boyfriend. I miss my boyfriend.

Okay, yeah, yeah. I miss my boyfriend, Colton. She's in the bubble. That's what she should be thinking, right? I think Cassie is far more authentic seeming than Kailen. Kailen has a mean streak. She, how is she mean? Come on.

The way that she reacted to the taste of, I guess I could have, I would have probably reacted in a similar way. It's like, oh, she's talking. smack about me, I'm going to, like, say some mean stuff about her right now. But she really didn't say anything mean. She just is saying, like, it's, it's, like, I never said it. Show the, I'd be like, show the tape, show the tape. Okay, but those two are always clicky.

Cassie and Caitlin are always clicky, and the other girls in the house all feel the same way about the two of them. Because they're the hottest ones. I would have to agree it's probably. I mean, Cassie is gorgeous. She's sunny. She looks like men. Megan Fox's blonde hair. Yes, she's like so naturally pretty.

I know. All she needs is mascara. The other girl, Hannah G. Has fabulous hair. Hannah G. Not the one that got the boot. You mean Kalin? No.

Hannah G. Yes. The other blonde. She's got the best naturally blonde great head of hair. I know. I know. You're probably right. You know who didn't have good hair?

The makeup artist that went home early. Elise? Yeah. I thought Elise had good hair. She's right. I'll show you a photo Okay It was a little rough

Send your letters to What's our email address, Easton? Just send them to me Send them to me Yes, send them to Heather Okay Send them to me Now listen, y'all

I thought she's pretty I just thought, you know You don't have hair and makeup people, right? No But do you have it for the engagement night? I don't know, I've never been there But you've got to ask somebody I don't you know

get assistance on that. They do get a dress. Okay. What's his face? Oh, yeah. They definitely get it. Yeah. What's his name? Just so much, so many things to pack, right? What is his name? The stylist? Carrie. Oh, yes. I wanted to say Sandy. Why? All right. Well, here you are, guys. Heather is team Cassie and Kaylin and I am team the rest of the girls. I don't know, you guys. I've had a bad feeling about Kaylin a couple times, but I've been a little bit scared to say it because I don't want people to think, like, I didn't think she was so amazing and so brave when she told her

story. I do think that. I think it was so important that she did that. I don't want to take that away from her at all. I just, she's given me some bad vibes. I don't know if I'd be friends of her. Can I ask the question? Because maybe I missed something this season. Okay. Why did the two girls have such an issue? Just because they were in the pageant together? No, we never really resolved it. We never did. And I think that this whole scenario is showing that Hannah be, is the real sweetheart in all of this. I love Hennaby. Can we talk about Hannaby?

Is she not the most likable girl in this season? She's so real. But she's really boring. No, she's not. They had that one date that she barely spoke. And then finally at the end, she was like, okay, I have an issue with being perfect. They still were not like rolling conversation

and they were rolling in the sand like him and Cassie were. I know. They didn't have the chemistry and they didn't have the communication chemistry either. Heather, I totally agree with you. I think that she and him did not have it. They did not click, but I just think that she is the coolest of all of them.

Right. I love her. I loved her. And they weren't meant to be. And it's fine. But I thought she handled her exit very, very well. And I think she's so nice. And I think she's just a little awkward and shy around a guy that she likes.

I mean, I thought of all of being like the most shocked. She had the reason to be the most shocked. He brings you to the parents. And she probably didn't put two in her together that this is the kiss of death. because he hadn't heard this episode yet. And then, you know, and had the one-on-one, how could you not think you weren't getting that rose? No, I know.

I knew that was going to be a bad day. And she's like, I love you. I know. And the mom's like, just wear your heart on your sleeve. Just tell him that you love him. Otherwise, he's so insecure. He's not going to pick anybody that he even wonders about. All right, guys.

It's time to get Carly on the phone. I know. I didn't even tell you that Carly was going to come on the phone. But Carly Weddell is on the phone. Cool. because she has a new iTunes album out of Lullabies inspired by her baby Bella

Carly Ashley Hello Hello friend So tell us about your new album for the lullabies for Bella Somewhere Over the Rainbow rendition is so good

Oh my gosh, thank you I mean honestly it was one of those things for I've been singing to Bella, like, since she was in the room. Like, and what's weird is, like, people don't remember that I'm a singer, which is very funny to me, but then I was so good at it. And it was literally the only thing I could do to calm her down. So I would sit everything on night, and I was sing, and I was singing her thing. And then, I don't know, like, maybe five months ago, I was, like,

maybe for Bella's birthday I should put out, like, a little lullaby tribute so that she would always have it, like, and she could look back, like, She's, like, 30 and be like, my mom did this for me and, like, play me singing to her kids, which would be the cutest ever. So it just kind of started being, like, a little tribute thing for her. And now, I don't know. It's just really fun. I'm, like, I'm singing again, and I'm singing, like, to my child.

Like, there's nothing better than that. It's so nice. It's very popular on iTunes. Wait, tell us how you're charting. Oh, gosh. Well, baby sharks crushing me, you know, typical baby shark. but um no it's like it's on the kids albums right now it's like um i mean it's like top five and then like the um i have one song that i wrote the other ones are covers of some of my favorite

songs but um my song dreamtron was like in top 10 but i haven't checked in a while so who knows it's changed quickly but it's just really it's really exciting to see like something that you did for your kids like actually get stuck a round of applause. And people are saying I sing like a Disney princess and that's just like my dream compliment. But you totally do. That's awesome. What's your favorite track? I mean, so I love Dream Train because I wrote it obviously, but I really love singing somewhere over the rainbow. We tried to keep this like I had all the lights down really low in the studio and we tried to keep it like a really intimate sound. So it would sound like I was literally just singing to her.

So there's like moments in summer of the rainbow I really, really love. But I think my favorite one was Dream Train just because I think it's a catchy tune. And, you know, she looks at me like, ooh, this is a little ditty. It's really cute. So cute. What did you guys do for her birthday? It looked like she had a pretty wild birthday for a one-year-old. So her birthday party was actually supposed to be on the day of the Grammys.

And then I went to the Grammys with Jade. to promote our new podcast. Yeah. So I had to like switch her birthday to the next weekend. So we kind of broke it up into installments. But I wanted to be like fairyland, like mermaid land, wonderland.

So we had like a bunch of different fun like tents for her. And then we had like a smash cake in front of like fairyland. She's dressed as a mermaid. We had like ball pit. Like it was just wild. She's just wild.

She's never stopped. She's so freaking cute. She looks. exactly like you it's like actually bizarre like that a one year old can look so much like one of the parents you know what's so funny though because when Evan Holter like I look at I look at them together I'm like oh my gosh you look so much like him really then when I see like a video or pictures of us together I'm like oh my gosh

you look so much like me what's so wild today is I was like I was sitting with her making videos for Instagram and I have been teaching her new things every day Like, I'll be like, Bella, what is an elephant's day? What is, you know, where's your nose? And now, like, for the first time today, I go, Bella, where's your nose? I've been teaching me this for like two months. She's never pointed to her nose. And I find I got it on camera for the first time ever.

And I was, like, so happy. And my voice was so annoying. I'm like, oh, my God, this is so good. And I was so excited. Oh, that's so cute. What I love about Bella is, like, she's the most even-keeled baby. I've ever met she I don't know if I've ever seen her cry I mean not that I've hung out with her a zillion times but when I have it's only when she like is hungry or like really tired that she

cries but like even when she wakes up in the morning she doesn't really cry like seriously she sings to herself in her crib like I have a monitor on her right now like in her crib and when she wakes up she's like ah and she's just like last night she was singing her crib and I looked and she was Kissing her doll. So cute. It's ridiculous. I love her so much. All right.

Well, I know, like, this is just, like, reporter, Ashley, needs to ask. Yeah. When do you, are you thinking about having another one? Evan and I, we're just talking about this. We are. We're planning on having one more. It was funny the other day. We went to, oh, gosh, American Girl and Bill DeVare for her birthday.

And I was like, Evan, you realize, like, if we have another kid, And he's going to be like, well, Bella got a good American girl and build it there for her birthday. And then he was like, I don't know if I could handle another girl. I think we're going to have to have a boy. No, Evan's so good with the girls. She's so good with her. I'm like anything. If we had a boy that would be amazing, if we had a girl, that would be obviously like the cutest thing to have two little girls running around and matching dresses.

But we are thinking about it probably, I don't know, maybe a little bit later this year, thinking about trying whatever that means. or just, like, not pulling out, you know. Way to be real about it. All right. Well, you guys can hear more from Carly on her podcast, Babes and Babies. She talks all things motherhood with our good friend, Jade Tolbert. Thanks for coming on, Carly. We always appreciate you.

You're always a bundle of joy. I also wanted to add that we have been reading Lucy and Clark and Bellet, keep going, who, woo, woo, ho, whew, and it's cute a singer for. No. Oh, that makes me feel so happy. Thank you. I thought it so much. I'm going to talk to you later, actually.

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listen to Brown Ambition on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, Ari. What's up? How are you? Good. you thanks for coming on we are joined by heather macdonald today and uh she has also seen your hilarious billboard and um yes one of my fans sent it to me and you know i am a realtor and came from a family of realtors before i a realtor you have your license no i did i've let it laps but i was a

realtor from like 19 years old to when i started working on chelsea cool yeah oh nice well uh so i appreciate we were bus bench people and shopping cart people but i appreciate that i appreciate the huge billboard. That's really stepping it up a notch. Ari, tell everybody what the billboard says. Yeah, so the billboard says the realtor. It's something that I kind of came up with while I was on the show.

Lauren came up with the tagline that says break up with your realtor, it's okay to change your mind. So I have to give her credit on the tagline. So if you guys are, you know, not getting it, it's the realtor as in

The Bachelor. And it's okay. if you choose your runner-up a couple months later. Actually, there was some more suggestions on taglines afterwards and I really like, which now I might move into the busbench from shopping cart

market and I might do one that says, will you accept my offer? Oh, that's cute. Just make an ongoing theme about it. Is you any legal trouble with The Bachelor for that? No, no, they didn't. They haven't even no they haven't even

texted me to say hey this is funny everyone's very quiet about it which is probably a bad thing yeah when someone's knocking on your door and you're like it's another realtor knocking on my door no you're being served no just kidding you know what you'll be I don't think you'll be no it's a parody so you can't get in trouble

for that it's a parody and also I mean you you were you were the bachelor like you should be able to yeah play with it yeah I would think yeah I mean I think so I think it's I think it's just it's all in good fun It's like my attention grabber. Honestly, I got the billboard.

It's right by my house in Phoenix. I got it because I thought it would be just really funny for social media. I mean, I didn't really get it to get a lot of calls because, to be honest, it's just been a lot of prank calls. But it was basically I just did it for the gram. I'm just that extra. Look, I think it's hysterical. I think anybody who has a good sense of humor and doesn't take everything in life too seriously should, too.

but how much hate have you gotten for it? Have you gotten any? No, not really. Oh, thank God. I wanted it to be a little controversial because that's what will grab your attention, you know? It's all about, you know, building awareness. Everyone knows I'm a realtor.

And I think it's just kind of, it's for us, it's funny. I mean, Lauren and I are married now. We're expecting a baby. Everyone's moved on, you know. So we've moved on. Can I ask a question? You know, do you get a lot of people that want to list with you and they were fans?

And they're just like, you know what? I enjoyed, why not you, I feel like I know you, I like you, and they're like honest about it? Or do you feel like, or that's one question, and have other realtors tried to like use that against you too? Like, don't go with him. He's really more of a TV person than a true realtor. Yeah, I mean, I will say it's mixed. My client base is, you know, all pretty much older downsizing, so luxury. and now my client base is trending to be a little bit younger.

So as far as, you know, my listing prices have gone down a little bit, but I'm listing more. That's great. I think it's a double-edged sword for sure. Well, let's talk about your wedding. Since I haven't talked to you since your wedding, it's been about a month now. How has been the first month of newlywed bliss?

Oh, it's been so good. It's been good to be home. I mean, we just have been home for the last couple weeks. And we just bought a flip house So we're all excited about that So we're kind of in the design process Of how that house Get a look when it's done

And yeah, it's just been good Things are seemingly Everything's kind of just how it was before Except now we just have Reins on our phone room Yeah That's what I was going to ask Jared and I are like, everybody's like

Are you excited for the wedding? We're like, yeah, we're so excited for the wedding But I don't think it's going to feel any different afterward. Is that the case? Yeah, for us it doesn't feel any different afterwards. We just know that, you know, we're in it for the long haul, obviously, but we already didn't do that before.

So for us, it's more or less like, you know, and now I think reading up to the wedding, like you and Jared are probably planning and planning and planning. So you have this constant, you know, sort of, I don't know, this day in your head of how it's going to look. And you've been planning it for so long. So when it's over, you almost feel kind of like an emptiness because there's nothing left to plan.

Yeah. You know, it happened, and it went by way too quick. Yeah. And so, you know, looking back at it, we just, we always think about, you know, how special that day was. It was incredible. Well, now you have a baby and a due date to look forward to. How's Lauren doing? She's doing great.

She's feeling great. Yeah, it's kind of insane, you know, three months from now. We'll have a little baby girl. So it's sneaking up on us. We're actually, this weekend, we're going on a baby moon with a friend of ours, too, like kind of a couple baby moon kind of thing, which is kind of cool in Sedona. Oh, that's so fun. You can't drink the wine, but that's okay.

She's looking so hot. She's like the hottest mom. She has her days where she gets down a little bit because, you know, I think it's hard when a woman's body changes, but I feel like she looks really beautiful. And, you know, we try to. We take a picture every Tuesday and we put it up and it's fun. It's a lot of fun. I'm sure she feels a lot of pressure to have to look like Instagram perfect during the whole thing, too.

And I think that's the last thing you're going to want to do when you're carrying. No, really. The way you get more followers is if you look like crap every day, that's what everyone loves. You should take a photo of her like puky and like, yeah. And then everyone's like, oh, they're so real. Let's list with them. Oh, that's hilarious. Okay. Well, Ari, thank you so much for joining us. Every time you're here, it's so great. We get some good stuff. Thank you. And we'll probably talk to you, you know, after the baby.

Sounds good. All right. Have fun. Bye. Bye. Bye. Can I ask a question that you probably answered on the show already. Yeah. But I know that she, you know, got pregnant before the wedding, which I'm not judging. That's not why I'm getting at. I'm just saying, like, why didn't they try to like, did, did they? not want to throw them a wedding ABC? Did they now want ABC to be part of it? Do you know any scoop on like why it wasn't televised? Yeah, ABC doesn't do weddings anymore. Unless you want to do a Paradise Wedding. I mean, in that case, I don't think like Paradise Wedding is immediately on the table.

But I think like if you want to negotiate a Paradise Wedding, that's way easier for them. They wanted to be part of an episode. Got it. So they don't have to like get more airspace for it because what happens or so I've heard is it's kind of a wash for them. They spend as much money on the wedding as they make from it. Got it. So they're like, eh, not worth it.

Yes. Good, good answer. I like it when you, I like it when you ask me questions about the show. Ask me a couple questions, Heather, that you think you have pondered while watching the show and that you think the other fans have asked, but they haven't gotten the answer for. One thing I was going to say about Colton is when we were talking about that, you know, that conversation that they had where, um, Kate, it's Caitlin, Caitlin, Caitlin shared her awful experience in college with date rape.

and our assault and then he he said you know that's one of the reasons i stayed a virgin so long is because i was with a woman who was also a victim of sexual assault um whatever case that might have been but i thought well now that makes so much more sense why did it take us this long every girl asked him he did a million interviews and then i guess some people thought it was wrong because then they could figure out who that person was probably why he kept quiet on it yeah I guess, but then that made so much more sense because he was the same as like you and I where it was like, you always had to tell somebody

like it's not a religious thing, it's just like I'd like to be someone that I'm gonna see tomorrow. Exactly, that was the whole thing. I just wanted to be like a boyfriend. It's not to make sure he's gonna call me the next day. I just don't want him to like skateboard past me. Like, hey, what's up?

It was fun in the dorm room last night. Like I just wanted like a boyfriend. And so, you know, and it's so hard for people to get that. Oh, what about that other girl? I thought this was interesting. The one girl, I think it was Cassie, says, now people are going to know that I'm on the show that I'm not a virgin.

I'm like, what is, it just felt, I was like, what is this? So she's actually from a very religious background. So she is religious. Yeah. She went to a very religious school, actually did a little research. Okay.

The college she went to actually has you sign as part of like their code of conduct that you will not have sex. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's intense. Any other questions that you think Bachelor Nation wonders as a fan? Gosh.

Well, it'll probably come to me as you go ahead. I just think we use the term Bachelor Nation too much? I don't know. Yes. Yeah, we do. It's weird. Like Bachelor fan. Oh, I have another thing.

How is it that if you want, you can just go to the dude's house? Like, you're dying for a lone time. But if you want, you can just ask a producer and come over and knock on the door and see him. Sometimes. this will be vague. Sometimes your wishes granted and sometimes it's not. Oh, okay. We can read through the lines on that. Right. Or sometimes British probably comes to her. It's great for our stories. Yeah. I've asked sometimes and I have been denied and then sometimes I've been granted. Okay. But I always think that really, that really pisses off the other girls is when you go and just go walking over to his villa.

Yeah. Yeah. You don't really know where he lives. You couldn't really do it on your own. Oh, right. Interesting. Oh, but in Chris Sol's case, you really could go over there by yourself? You mean because you were in Iowa or whatever? No, he was the first and only bachelor, I feel like, who lived in like the little guest house across the hall, the hall, the driveway. He was really darn close. Oh, my goodness.

Well, this is our wrap up news. Oh, my gosh. This is your cliffhanger, guys. This is your almost famous cliffhanger. So I mentioned that Ben is in Honduras, and he actually, he, actually, he, you know, He brought a special someone to Honduras, his new girlfriend, Jess. So we're allowed to reveal her name, Jess. So all you all use the GF word, because I don't know if he's using that.

Oh, if she's going to come on the podcast, breaking news, guys, Jess is coming on the podcast next week. What? If she's going to come on the podcast, it's definitely official. Yeah. And Ben's not somebody who's like, going to, like, be dating other girls if he's taking a girl to Honduras, you know? so Jess will join Ben on the podcast next week that is huge guys he has a girlfriend that he feels is serious enough to you know have her on the podcast introduce that's insane that's crazy congrats Ben we are so so happy for you so next week we'll have that and we and we'll see and we'll see you guys hopefully on March 4th yeah at Planet Blue in Malibu come out it's totally free come hang out with us maybe you'll be on the podcast and if you want to have a private dinner with me ben jared and some other bachelor friends head over to if only dot com and make

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Heather MacDonald.net. You can go see me live. You can come up to me after and say you thought I was being mean. Just come to a show, make it worth my while. If you're going to say something mean, at least by a ticket to the stand-up. Well, you entertain me so much. I loved listening to you today. It is so funny.

And if you guys want to listen to more of Heather, listen to her podcast, Juicy Scoop, you're going to get what you heard today every week. Yes, so much more every Tuesday and Thursday. So it'll be very fun. But thank you. Thank you, oh my gosh. You're just as delightful as ever. Oh, thank you. All right, guys.

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