The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - This is Your Captain Speaking with Peter Weber

Episode Date: November 17, 2021

Pilot Pete has landed for a layover with Ashley I to help break down this week’s episode of The Bachelorette! Peter’s been single for almost a year… and Ashley finds out if he’s back in the dating world! Hear everything about the first date he might have gone on recently. We talk to Mollique to get some insight on who the frontrunner might be in Michelle’s season. And you won’t believe what he has to say about why Clayton was chosen as the next Bachelor!Plus, a full recap of Ben’s wedding!Listen to Peter's podcast "Bachelors in the City" on iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So I have a special guest host today. His name is Peter Weber. welcome, Peter Weber. What's going on, everyone? It's good to be here on the podcast. Thanks for having me. Thank you so much for being here. So, of course, we have a lot to talk about with Ben's wedding. It was beautiful. And our engineer, Easton, he was there. So during hot topics, Easton and I will talk a little bit about, you know, the whole wedding day. But for right now, I want to catch up a little bit with Peter. Peter, the biggest, like, I feel like the most recent headline we have from you is the fact that you ran the New York City Marathon with a lot of

other Bachelor alum. And I'm telling you, like I've, the listeners are like, Ashley, holy crap, are you really going to go into this again? I am mind boggled by anyone who's able to run a marathon. So please tell me about your preparation and how it felt on your body. Oh boy. You mean lack thereof. So I, it wasn't my, I never thought I'd ever run. run a marathon, to be completely honest. My roommate Dustin, he had done a New York City Marathon the year prior. And he actually had run with Tyler and Matt. And he kind of brought me into this whole idea of running it this year with him.

And so I couldn't say no, because it was for Achilles, which was a great organization, obviously raising a lot of money. So it was for a great cause. But I'm like actually, I'm not a runner at all. Like I'm not long distance. Like I can sprint, but I'm not a runner. And to be completely honest, my preparation, consisted of one six mile run like three weeks prior to this actual I was an idiot with it like

I am so lucky that I did not get seriously injured from running 26.2 miles on a whim and and that's literally what happened. I mean my legs I'm still like not 100% recovered. My knees are still pretty sore. This is just over a week after. But I just got to be honest, it was it was probably the most rewarding experience of my life. I truly mean that. and like I'm super happy I did it. I want to do it again next year, obviously the right way and prepare and actually try to get a decent time.

It was electric though. The energy was incredible. What was your time? I got, actually, I got my medal here with it all in grade. There was 5.16 in 9 seconds, I believe. I still find that unbelievably impressive. Now hold up. Your entire training was six miles,

a month before, the longest you'd ever run at one time ever and it wasn't even it wasn't even six miles i did i ran three miles down the east side here in manhattan down to the bridge and uh stopped for about 10 minutes because i needed to catch my breath so i didn't even go to the full six without stopping and then i ran the other three back home um and that was the full extent of i just i needed to get that in to like at least have some type of confidence that i could run you know a decent amount of mileage um you're like but then multiply it by by three it was horrible because six miles isn't even a isn't even a technically a quarter exactly it's not even a quarter or yeah it's not even a third 2 26.2 even more because yes

26 not even a quarter technically so six times four oh my gosh yeah okay I have so many more questions I mean did you feel like the original marathon runner like back in ancient Greece like because he ran the 26 miles and then he just dropped dead. Is that how you felt? I was very close to that. My friends all thought it would be hilarious to show me. I don't have you seen the episode from how I met your mother with Barney Simpson. I think it's Simpson.

I haven't seen too many episodes. But I know Barney. Yeah. There's an episode where he takes over the spot for Marshall who got injured. And he's like, yeah, I could run a marathon with zero training. Literally what I was about to do the very next day. And he runs it, completes it, surprises everyone. And then I guess the next day it's like a delayed.

reaction and his legs don't work and that was that was quite literally my exact uh experience with it as well so yeah it's pretty crazy wow so did you run into any bachelor alum along the way so i was in the slowest heat i think out of everyone um i started off with dustin my roommate and then he he shortly after we started kind of took off you know away from me he finished like 50 45 minutes before me. I know Tyler and Matt were running. They had left in a heat way before me. Zach and Tasia, same thing. Joe as well. So I was like in one of the slowest heats. I mean, I couldn't have kept up with anyone else even if I wanted to. But next year, next year, I'm going to do the training. I'm not going to make excuses and this, this lit of fire under my ass for

sure. So I don't regret it. I could ask you so many questions. Like, how much did you eat? How long did it take for you to be able to stand the next day? But I won't. I mean, this is not on a marathon podcast. So just one more question. How nervous were you before that? I don't know. Do they shoot off like one of those gun things? Like I don't even know the amount of nerves must have been running through your body. Honestly, it was an ignorance as bliss type scenario.

I didn't know. Everyone kept trying to tell me that you don't know what you're getting yourself into. This is going to be the worst day of your life. Like you're not going to be able to walk. You're not going to be able to finish it. No one thought I was going to be able to finish it. And I think I just like I was so. ignorant that it really paid dividends for me because like i i just the entire time i'm like i'm

going to finish it yeah it's going to hurt like hell but um there's just there was no there was zero like doubt that i was going to finish it even when the pain started coming so i think actually kind of worked out for me in a weird way well that's amazing so impressive so bravo uh and can't wait to see what you get next year very very with some training Yes, yes. Anyway, okay, well, you know, it wouldn't be a Bachelor podcast if I didn't ask a former Bachelor who is currently single if he's dating. And, you know, you talk, you've got to, you get asked this all the time.

So I'll let you answer the question and give me your nice little PR answer because I'm sure it's very PR-friendly. Am I dating? No, I mean, I am, I guess I could say I'm starting to date. I'm not, like, serious in a relationship, exclusive with anyone like that. But I, listen, what I've been telling everyone, this is, whether it's not PR, it's just, it's the truth. I really enjoyed this, like, 10, 11 months of just being single and, like, not worrying about a relationship. Like, because I, for so long was that was the biggest focus of my life.

And obviously, the show kind of made it that way. And it's been so refreshing and such a great reset to just, like, not worry about that. And, like, just literally worry about myself and work on myself. and, you know, just do things I wanted to do and improve myself in as many ways as I could. And I've been enjoying New York like crazy. You know, I've had the time of my life. But I am definitely now to the point, again, where, and it's cool

because, like, I needed this to come, like, just organically and very naturally. I couldn't have forced it. Like, I do feel like I can kind of get back out there again and I'm ready to. And that's exciting for me to say. What kind of date do you take a girl on on a first date? so for me i i know it sounds crazy coming from the show but i am such like a a simple dude

and like yes i love the adventure of life and i love living life to the fullest and all that stuff but like on a first date i truly am that guy that like i like the simpler the better like no glitz no glam just like the two of you connecting in a very organic um non pretentious way like that to me is everything and everything else can kind of come after that but if you if from in my opinion I can feel spark feel something from that kind of date um literally just taking a blanket out to central park and just like chilling and enjoying the beautiful day and admiring the the buildings and whatnot and just having great conversation that is everything to me so is it a daytime date oh so we're getting into exact dates here oh okay um this one that's at the top of my mind yes

It involved a nice walk around the Kennedy Reservoir. I don't know if you've done that in Central Park, but it's one of my favorite places in the city. So pretty. Yeah. Stunning. All right. Well, sounds good.

Now, to the question that I really want to ask, like, have you ever gone on a date with Julie Laplaca, the producer of yours, who like everybody was speculating you were going to end your season with? I know. Literally everyone did. I love Julie. And the answer is no, that does not happen.

Why can it happen? Can it happen? Hey, you never say never. Honestly, Julie and I, we do. We get along very well. Obviously, you know, you get to know someone so well from spending every waking moment with them, right? From those two, three months of the show. I actually just saw her. She was at my book launch. That's why I asked. Oh, there we go. I saw a nice little picture of the two of you. Open your new book. Yep. No, she's great.

her and her family came out. It showed a lot of support. We're very close. You know, both of our families are very close. And, um, hey, you never know.

Hey, he's smiling and kind of glowy guys. Oh, boy. Go, reading into it. I love Julie. I really do.

All right. Well, we can, we'll take that. Were you close to Julie? She was, um, I mean,

yeah, I wouldn't say close, but, but we were friends, for sure. You know what I mean? She wasn't she wasn't on my side of things

during the during my processes. Gotcha. Yeah. I think she started to become more involved in the cast later on. Gotcha.

That makes sense. Okay. Well, let's talk out Michelle's season in macro a little bit before we dive into the actual episode. Have you been watching?

I have. I am a huge fan of Michelle Young. Same. I, you know, the ratings aren't that great. We won't lie here. I don't understand it.

Stupid. And it makes me feel sad because she's such a great bachelorette. She deserves the writings. Honestly, she's in this last episode, I mean, there were so many moments where I'm just like, wow. Like, she's just, she's got her shit together.

Like, she's a freaking rock star. It's like, honestly, See, I'll say, like, she's one of my favorite Bachelorette's I think I've ever seen. Like, I would not have been mad at all. I've been very happy to have been on her season. I know. Same, same, same. Do you feel like any of these guys are up to her level?

Because I don't know if I feel like they are. You know, I, I mean, it's a very valid point. I really like Brandon for her. Is Brandon or Brendan? I'm always so bad with Brandon and Brendan's. I think this one's Brandon and we had a Brendan, you know, last season. Yes, yes. He's honestly the one guy.

I mean, I think obviously she's very innate and that's like very, very obvious. And Nate, I like Nate. He still comes off, though. Like I kind of can see what the Chris guy was kind of. of like hinting that. I don't know. Maybe I'm completely wrong. I'm misreading it. I kind of see that. But I, but obviously like she's very intimate. That's very obvious. But I would say Brandon right now is is my top pick for her if I had a pick one. Interesting. A guy who hasn't had a one on one yet. So I think especially after this episode, I'm thinking that Joe might be in the lead. So I think

Joe is my pick for her. Joe's, yeah, they're solid. So yeah, they just look like they make so much sense their whole background lifestyle obviously where they come from the state was perfect for them like you knew that was coming it was absolutely ideal um he's got a really cool his shyness and like how reserved he is it to me it's it's so like in the best way possible like it's it just works i don't know like i really appreciate that i kind of saw a little bit of like i see myself in him and how he was on this show just kind of being a little bit reserved and taking a little long to kind really fully open up and i think that's just it's very it's just very natural and and authentic on how it comes across just seems like a really solid guy it's like it was for me it was

like a complete 180 because you kind of get thrown for a loop in the beginning in the first episode oh totally ghosting here and all that you or you think that's what happened and now his story is starting to come out and you really understand who this guy is just like i said authentic is i think the best way for me to describe him my feelings on him has probably changed the most of out of every in the cast since episode one. Totally. I would agree with that. Reservations about him at first.

Okay. And then what about Clayton? Because every week here on the podcast, Ben and I are puzzled as to why the producer seems so sold on him to become the next bachelor. To me, he is nothing glitzy. I'm not compelled. We got a little bit more from him out of this episode, but only like comparably speaking to what we've gotten from him

in other episodes. So what are your thoughts on this? Do you think that his storyline is going to develop so much in the next like two to three weeks that we're going to fall in love? Or is it a huge mistake? I don't want to say it's a huge mistake. I mean, I

listen, to make that decision so early, I don't know if that's ever been done before. I mean, I could be completely wrong on that, but to choose a lead as early as they did. day without anybody knowing them, getting a reaction from the public live as this episodes were airing. They obviously felt very confident. But I agree with you. There is really no glitz or glamour there. I do, I'll give him props. So he definitely to me stood out a little bit more

this episode. I saw sides of him. I don't think that anyone is seen yet. It's like it's like you're rooting to see something. Like you want to get excited for this next, next season of The Bachelor coming up. and you know what awaits with that and it's been kind of hard to get excited um so i don't know i think yeah you have to for the sake of the show you have to see something in the next couple weeks and he really's got to take off um and hopefully that is the case yeah totally agree all right well before we take a quick break we have to talk about your new children's book the adventures of pilot p which is set to come out on november 23rd apparently jaron and my children's book, Lucy and Clark, a story of puppy love, was in some way a spark for you to create your own.

This is actually, yeah, this is kind of crazy. I'm in full circle. So funny. So Andy, the publisher that you worked with on your guys' children's book, we had been introduced to each other. It's about a year and a half ago. And to be honest, a children's book never was really the idea like I had thought of in my head of writing. And so he brought up your guy's book. And that's what kind of like got the spark for me to get going and immediately I knew exactly what I wanted to do and what I wanted it to be about. So I guess I owe you guys a big thanks for this kind of coming to fruition and being the pathfinders there. But yeah, it's it's an awesome. I mean, you know how cool the process it is to write a children's book. It's very unique. Obviously with

illustrations, it was just a really cool experience to me. It's a it's a not-fictional book about my first love, right? And, you know, people have kind of see my romantic love, you know, play out or lack thereof, I guess, on TV. But this is my first love aviation and how I fell in love with it from the first time I saw an airplane and through, you know, growing up and all the work I put in, the trials you go through and finally get into my dream job. And, you know, my hope is that it can just inspire a lot of children, inspire the next generation, have some longevity here and be something really positive that people can enjoy. So I'm super excited to share it with everyone. And I hope, I hope it just

inspires like I've been inspired by so many people and you know my life growing up so is there any lessons in it follow your dreams it is never give up until you find them or tell you to achieve those it literally that that's you know I've had it's so cool to um pay honor to I guess so many mentors that I've had in my life because they're all in the book and um you know from high school teachers to flight instructors to my parents to my friends I'm I get to bring to bring them all back and tell that story. And yeah, it's a follow your dreams, chase your dreams type book and finding whatever that is, whether it's flying or, you know,

whatever it may be that makes you feel so alive that you literally never feel like you're going to work a day in your life. And, you know, I feel so fortunate that I've been able to find that. And people know I'm super passionate. So being able to put this in a children's book and relive it through the whole illustration process and the writing process was such a joy for me. So I hope people enjoy it.

And I love to make a series, you know, this moving forward more fictional um and uh make it educational for kids too going off the far off places uh and a little mystery there so there's a lot of potential i hope for it it definitely with the title sounds like it's going to be part of a series yeah that's the that's the goal that's the goal i yeah hopefully this one goes well yeah so thank you guys people can get it i'm assuming on amazon but is there a place where like maybe they don't take 50% of the proceeds that you want a plug. True. Yeah. So you guys go to The Adventures of Pilot Pete.com and you'll get a signed copy of the book. It's the only way to get that version of the copy of the book. So it's on my

Instagram. I have it linked there. And I hope you guys enjoy it. And shameless plug on my behalf as well. If you're just trying to stock up on Bachelor Children's Book, Children's Books, you can get ours at www. lucyinclarcbook.com. We should be a little bundle package. Yeah, we should. Let's be collab. I think we're the only people from

Bash Nation done children's books. I think so, too. Yes. We have to speak about flying for one second since it's related to this. How does it go when people see you up there in the cockpit, whether you're saying hello

or saying goodbye? When fans spot you And they're like, you're my pilot. Have you ever heard anything like super outrageous or like, I'm scared, pilot P. Like, he couldn't decide between two girls. How am I supposed to trust him in the air? Listen, I'm a lot better pilot than I am Bachelor.

Okay. I will put it out there. I'm a damn good pilot. And I'm very confident saying that. It's fun. it's really fun uh it's cool to see the love out there what's always funny for me is um is the captains usually have no idea about the show it's usually the flight attendants that really know and that it kind of followed it flight attendants love the bachelor uh they do i mean just last night

we were talking about the entire time and i don't mind it's it's always cool like they said all the love i appreciate but it's always funny if i'm like on a three or four day trip and the captain will like finally like on day two like he has no idea and then he'll be like why why does this flight isn't keep coming up for why why should take pictures of you and not me like they just have no idea and um that because i never say anything like i just don't want to really bring it up and and then they'll get like introduced to it and they're like what and then they'll be all curious and they'll ask and it's funny we literally this is this is not fly related this is you just triggered my memory yesterday we're going in new york this was hilarious and we uh we're looking for a new apartment

because we're going to go move downtown and um so dustin myself and one of our other best friends, we're going to move in together. We go to this apartment. This realtor says, yeah, meet us at this apartment. And at this time, the tenant will be there to show you guys in and whatnot. Anyways, we call the number. They don't pick up. We email the lady, the realtor doesn't respond. Luckily, there was a guy that was like at the front door. So he opens the door for us, very gracious. Like, hey, we're here to see this apartment, what not. Like, oh, yeah, I guess you guys can go in. So we walk up. We knock on the door. And this girl, like says hello and we're walking to the door or she's walking the front door she opens it

we're both me and her just like we lock eyes and we're like very confused that like who we're looking at and she just looks at me and she goes and then she looks over and she sees dust in there and she goes am i am i getting punked right now i'm like we're just here we're just here to see in the apartment like what are you doing here and um i don't know you just kind of just reminded me that it's kind of fun so whenever i see people out there it's cool i appreciate the love and got some funny stories for sure. Do you, like, have any side effects when you go up there? Because I don't know how you guys do it, like, just be in the air all day.

Like, I get the worst jet belly. I come off any flight that is more than two. Yes, with, like, the most painful bloat. Interesting. You don't have any, like, tummy pains or anything like that, like dehydration. I mean, I guess I'm not pregnant, so I mean, it's been way. or as well pregnant. Oh my gosh.

I need like three hours recovery after a flight. I, you know, I don't get that, but I get my feet sometimes they get really swollen. Like if I'm in the back, I know people like have,

they get triggered by this or whatnot. Sometimes they take my shoes off, you know, and I always put a blanket over them. So like it's not disgusting for anyone. But like I'm one of the guys. Barefoot. Not socks.

No, no, I'll always have socks on. Oh, everybody should be fine with having socks on. Okay. See, I agree with that too.

Some people like are like, no, absolutely not. You keep your shoes on 24-7. And I'm not doing this in the cock, but this is when I'm like a passenger, but I'll get swollen feet. You know, I'll notice when I put my shoes on there super tight. I honestly, I struggle. This is super random. I would struggle with dry eyes for the longest time. I kind of got through that phase. Thank God. But I, you know, the altitude, the cabin pressure is 8,000 feet, not that much humidity up there. So that's been my kind of side effects from flying, but luckily it's gotten better. And you're a United co-pilot now? Yeah, yeah, I fly for United Airlines first officer.

And I'm really hoping to, so my dad, the reason I came over from Delta, that my dad flies here. And he retires in April. And so the dream is to be on his retirement flight and be his first officer on his last flight. So I'm working to get there. When is he planning on retiring? He, uh, April 21st is at 65, you have to retire when you're a pilot. It's an FAA law.

So he's got just, you know, the 20th, I guess April is the last day. He can legally fly. Oh my gosh. Well, I hope you're able to do that. That would be so cute. Yeah, pretty cool. The book actually, it kind of, hopefully it's a little foreshadowing. That's kind of how the book goes to in the story and how it kind of ends. Oh, well, it must happen then. Okay. Yeah. Well, you're manifesting it. Absolutely. And we're going to say a quick break. And when we get back, we're going to break down this episode of Michelle's season. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

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one-on-one this week and say things like, he's getting this advantage. It's his hometown and he's getting the one-on-one. but it also just feels so right because I feel like how I feel like these two should have been on dates in Minneapolis before today, right? Sure. Yeah. No, I love the date. I think it was super cute to watch.

I kind of like I put myself in Michelle's shoes and I'm like, that would be, you know, I mean, actually kind of, I was able to do a little bit similar stuff, I guess, in L.A., some hometown stuff. And it means so much to be able to share something so personal with, you know, people on the show and that kind of experience. And then having them both, though, be from that area. It just is like a double whammy. So super special. I feel like I hear you with like the lack of drama with the guys.

But it's almost like it was such a perfect date. They couldn't have been mad about it. Like they had to be like, yeah, that's your time, man. Go enjoy it. Go have the time of your life with her. And I thought they handled it well. And from Joe's perspective, he must have been just like, having more of a sense of comfort on this one-on-one

than you normally would have gotten just because you're like, oh, I've been here before. I've been there before. And not everything is new. Right. Yeah. No, totally.

I mean, I think for sure him being a little bit more reserved and kind of getting him out of that shell, this was the perfect date. It couldn't have been any better for him. So happy for him. He definitely grew on me a bunch during that date. Totally. So they go to Twin Stadium.

She throws out the first pitch. They did everything on that date. Yeah, I know, right? Then she goes to her high school, shows him her locker. They look through the yearbook. And, of course, they talk about basketball. They play basketball in her old high school, like, gym. And that is super nostalgic.

I feel like even if you're not, like, a basketball player, if I were to go back to my high school gym, I'd get all the feels. Oh, totally. And it was so cool. Like, all of her pictures were still up there. And they got to, you know, see her back in high school. She, what was it? I think ninth grade, she was on varsity.

like girl's an all-star, like absolutely all-star. And I was, that was pretty bad ass. She beat him in the dress, too. She beat Mr. Minnesota. Dude, she is really good at basketball. Jared said the other week, he was like, I could take her. I'm like, Jared, she was rated number one in her state. I do not think you could take her.

She keeps making these three-pointers. Yeah, the girl doesn't miss. No, she doesn't. I mean, like, I'm sure they only edit it for us to see her keep scoring, but it's still quite impressive how with ease she just tosses it up and it's like in. No, very, very natural. I was definitely

very impressed. She'd kick my ass and freaking suck to basketball. So definitely giving her props. And then I get like the big part of this day is when they go to dinner. And he talks about so the big part about this date

is when they go to dinner and he talks about how he broke three bones, I think it was his leg, or like his, in his foot? And his leg first, I think so seventh grade, yeah. Yeah. And then in college, he broke. I think that's when he broke his foot, right? Yeah. And they, and then he had the surgery. The surgery was messed up even more. And then he had to go back in and get like seven screws in his foot. And it led to him, you know, not being able to play to the best of his ability. And he got into like a deep, you know, anxiety

depression, even having suicidal thoughts, and the two of them are just so emotional. But if anybody's going to kind of like understand the mental space that he would have been in, it would have been Michelle because she just knows how much playing a game means to him. Because I think a lot of girls maybe were like, how were you so affected by not being able to just play a sport? It's just a sport, you know, was it going to be your whole life? But she really gets him. yeah i think you know the mindset of an athlete and i wasn't even you know i was not even close to any

type of all-star athlete but i definitely love sports growing up and and really enjoyed it and like just the effort and the time and the commitment that you put into it just from someone like me that wasn't even like an all-star i know is incredible so i can only imagine these two i think they're both what either one was runner-up and one was like for the mr and mrs minnesota like these two are people that, and I had a lot of friends growing up, they were, they remind me of that were so just invested in their craft. And like that was, you know, like he said, I think once in the day, like ball is life. And then, and then, you know, it wasn't anymore. You're so invested in like it's so true. It's kind of why I think we said earlier, like they just make so much

sense. They just understand each other on such a common deep level. Obviously, it was so many similarities and their, you know, their background where they come from. It was. for me, super cool. These are the dates that I love watching. This is really why I got hooked on the show. And I've loved the show is like the true, like the emotion. When you see that come through, nothing's like contrived. It's all just so real and like seeing someone that maybe is not, I mean, no one's used to

open it up like that on reality TV if you've never been on it before. But seeing that kind of like growth as a viewer in real time is in my opinion, super beautiful and why the show has been so successful. and like this was one of those moments and I really I really enjoyed it and appreciated it. Both of them talk about kind of being reserved and he says that he actually feels really comfortable expressing himself with her, which is awesome. So yeah, he's my top choice right now. I feel like he's going all the way.

She reminds her dad too. That's a huge compliment. Oh, that is a huge compliment. All right. Well, now we move on to the group day. Maybe he is over Brandon. I don't know. We'll see.

Yeah. I think so. I think so. But I do think that Brandon has a lot of room to grow because we still haven't seen a one-on-one and he's still like in my mental top four. Don't you, like I've said this before right now and obviously we're hoping to see something more with Clayton.

I feel like Brandon, though, is like he's a great front runner for that. Or Joe, like I'm just, I don't know. I'm so curious to see what comes in these next couple episodes. If we didn't know Clayton was going to be The Bachelor, we would never think he was going to be the Bachelor. bachelor my only thought is that because of like the filming schedule they kind of had to pick somebody that we also kind of thought wasn't going to end up with michel because then it would just been a a total spoiler that's such a good point did not even think about that that's honestly

probably what it was yeah who's gonna make the best bachelor who obviously isn't going to end up with her yeah yeah yeah honestly that i can't think of any other reason right now. So you're on to something. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So the next is the group day and the guys go to Viking Stadium and they have to compete in Viking challenges. Like eating really disgusting things, putting on Viking costumes, doing arm wrestling.

What else did they do? They, yeah, did the battle cries. The battle cries, yeah. It ate the crazy food. They threw the, uh, the logs yeah all the viking stuff one of those dates that's like fun but like doesn't tell us a whole bunch about the guys uh except except it did i don't we did with chris with chris why why make yourself so hateable i don't know i think maybe he was leaning into it maybe he just knew

he had no storyline and was like uh okay i'll take the villain roll like making the like you know that people are just going to rag on you for like oh i can't eat like being the one dude that's saying I'm not going to eat it. Like, you're already dressed like a, I mean, I'm not sure to be mean, but you're already dressed like a jackass. Like, don't ask like a jackass. No, like, why? Why?

I don't get that. He has no self of humor, no sense of humor. No, I just, I don't know. He puzzled me the entire time. Yeah. Okay. So then at the group date dinner portion, well, actually during this entire date, we see. that the guys are taking so much

more effort with her than they did the previous week, which is very important. Brendan, Brandon and Clayton probably going their most out of the way to show her attention. During the

date, the nighttime portion, what are some standout moments that you have? Let's see here. So that was, I think, the conversation. It's the I think it's the first conversation that stood out to me with Clayton and Michelle. It's the only one, right? And it was them talking about their parents and how they're raised kind of similarly.

Yeah. So I think that that's the first one to kind of give me some hope. And I'm not going to lie. I saw, I did see some chemistry there between Michelle and Clayton. I hadn't seen it at all before, but there was something there. Brandon and her and her, it's just, it works. It's very easy with them. They're really good at, like, flirting with each other.

They have that just like natural. natural spark. See, to me, I feel like their relationship is very physical. It's like physically, it's based on physical attraction right now. Yes. I could see that. And hopefully you see that develop into something more. And I think it will.

I'm trying to think. What other in that specific group date one? Well, I guess it was Chris basically waiting for her to go up to him. and say, like, thank you for giving me warnings last week? Like, that was the weirdest thing. Yeah. Yeah, I, that didn't make any sense to me too. He was, it's like he was, because he was mad that from the previous week that no one was

or giving her the attention that she deserved. And then they are doing that exact thing. The most hypocritical. Now he's still mad about it. And then he, I don't know. Like I said, he just puzzled me the entire episode. Everything he did, I would have just been like, dude, do the opposite. Like, what are you doing?

That's such a funny point. Last week, it was all about, you guys didn't come grab me. And now, and he was like, yeah, everybody didn't come grab you. I thought that was gross. And now this week he's like, why didn't you come grab me? Grab me. Yeah, I don't know, man. Oh, the irony.

That is wild. Okay, so Clayton ends up getting the group date rose. And I do believe it was one of those moments where it was like, he got the group date rose because they finally like clicked yeah and maybe even for him too i know he said something like he probably figured they're going to do football right with the whole stadium date card and he like fell asleep that night and he's like you know i need to show out like i need to go all out and i remember having moments like that where is he former football player i believe he is and i actually think he is he played for the seahawks which i'm obviously a tired fan of so

so you know what i'm happy that he's the bachelor because We got a fellow Seahawk there. I think he was. Don't quote me 100%. But, yeah, I think you saw him, you know, kind of, you know what it's like, right? Did you have that? Like, you kind of find your groove. It maybe takes a little bit, but like something happens or you feel like comfortable.

You're in a setting that just like is your, is your place. And then it's just, at least for me, I resonated with that. The confidence just kind of shifts. You saw that with Clayton. You didn't even play football. It was just maybe being in the stadium. I don't know what it was. but you saw him kind of start to find his group a little bit

and got the rose and we'll see what develops. Okay, so he did play for the Seahawks. He did. It looks like that was the only team he played, the only professional team he played on. Oh, yeah. Okay, so now we go to Nate's one-on-one. He gets the one-on-one after starting all that drama last week

by saying my one-on-one is only a matter of time. Which, you know, I can understand why Chris would interpret that as a little cocky. But at the same time, I think he described, when Nate was describing to her friends on the boat, why he said that, I thought it made total sense. He was just like, you know, I know what we have between us. She keeps saying, I'm going to be around for a while that she's looking forward to spending more time with me. He has good reason. And he explained it in a humble way. so

what else was there about that date they're on the boat you know then she says we're going to have a group date brings her two best friends Ali and Tia on

the girls talk about you know like when they're leaving they said that they like feel the chemistry they feel like he's there for the right reasons and all of that she

she said that in an alley she said that she's very particular about the guys that Michelle sees because she's put way more effort in than the guys

that have been in relationships with her in the past so she didn't think she was going to like him she wasn't sure but she does like him and Michelle is happy. That's the one thing though that I don't get I don't see Michelle like I'd be so curious to like go back in time and see these guys that Michelle's with

I don't see Michelle attracting these kind of guys that she says that she's been with like to me like she just seems like she has it all together in so many ways and obviously it happened but I'm like I'm shocked that she would tolerate that yeah like for so long for three years like again like I really I think the world of her and like everything I've seen on the show like there's really nothing to hate nothing to really criticize at all and just respect and I'm like I'm shocked that those have

been the relationships that she's been in you would you wouldn't really necessarily expect it from a girl like her you have a great point there you would not maybe she's matured a lot in the past couple years. Yeah. Yeah. No, she doesn't seem like a girl that would put up with that. Anyway. Everything happens to her reason.

Yeah. Well, she actually, let's kind of go into that. Because during the nighttime portion of this date, she talks to Nate about one of those toxic relationships where she literally couldn't eat because she was just like so anxiety written in this relationship. that she thought that she had like an actual medical issue and the doctors couldn't figure out what was going on and it ended up just like her needing to get out of the relationship to the to the point where they were going to put a feeding tube in her like how wild she couldn't stomach

food that much stress I mean yeah they say like stress kills and I mean that that's like the definition of a toxic relationship right there Um, yeah, super sad to hear. I guess, yeah, even, yeah, just to my point, I mean, I, you know, she obviously probably learned so much from, from that relationship and moving forward. And I guess what we're seeing is like a, I'm not say, reformed or polished because she just seems such a great person. But she's grown a lot and learned a lot of lessons you can tell from her prior, her

upraising. And, yeah, it's super sad that she went through that. but it's good thing she's not, good thing she's not in it anymore. The one thing about this is that this was one of these one-on-ones where we learn more about Michelle than we learned about Nate. We don't really get a story from Nate. Yeah. So.

That doesn't happen a lot. That doesn't happen a lot. I don't know. I wonder what that means. I wonder if they're what, like, what kind of conversations were picked out of this, you know, edit out of this. and I wonder what's going to happen during the teasers because in the teasers they talk about how like

somebody's an actor right and they keep directing that at Nate and I don't know if I buy that it's at Nate. Yeah, it's not going to Nate. One of the, they, man, they get you good, the editing. I was like, what? That's what it was. There was a scene with Brandon on the stairs.

And in the previews before it's, they dub it with the crying, right? Like a guy, a dude's crying. And he was just like, I had his eyes closed waiting for the fish to come. That's really what it was. I'm like, man, they're so good. They're so good.

So who do you think that's directed at? If anybody in the cast, they literally could have been talking about, like, Ben Affleck. Be like, he's an actor. 100%. Like someone they just saw, like, on a group date on the street or random dude. I'm putting money on it. It's not Nate. Guys, I can assure you that.

I don't know. Now that Chris is gone, one thing I'll say, I'm supposed. prize they have gotten rid of all the villains so quickly. Well, is another villain going to pop up and will it be Nate? I think is the biggest question because I think that people, if they had to choose a villain in this bunch, it might be Nate.

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Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Michael Tura podcast network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, well, if we are trying to figure out who is going to be a villain, if any, for the remainder, I don't know, five or six weeks left in the season, why don't we pull an alum from this season who was eliminated week three as a guest right now? Let's get him in the way. Let's get him in the waiting room, but let's just get him on the podcast. It's Malik Johnson. Maybe he has some insight into the guys left. Hello.

Hello, Malik. Hi, Ashley. What's going on, man? We're breaking down this week's episode, and we have some questions for you. Absolutely. Of the guys that remain, is there anyone that you had bad vibes from?

Chris S. Okay, well, Chris S, he gets eliminated in this episode. So there you go. Why did you have bad vibes with Chris S? you were still there because he didn't quite start drama until last week. Right, right. I don't know. For me, I just definitely, I definitely felt something off with him.

You know, I remember our basketball game. Every time the cameras came around, he just was just very anxious to speak and talk about a lot of things. And as soon as the camera left, he just stopped. I'm like, hey, what's up? Like, it's just seem as if it was very calculated. It's just there just trying to, like, get, like, a bunch of, like, camera time and just just know what to say the right time, when to interject.

it was just it was i just you just wrote me wrong me a little bit he seemed a little off was he was he close with anyone uh like any of the guys martin not even really like that no it was more close with jamie um after jamie left then i think him and martin perhaps may have came a little bit closer but like he was he was just there he just always had something to say i was trying to like be uh the cool guy just have something to say and i just didn't really feel the vibe so i just didn't really you know interact with him a lot well speaking of martin we have

really touched on this yet. He ends up saying to Michelle that the women in Florida or Miami where he's from, um, their high maintenance. And it kind of irks her a little bit because he says that women who are high maintenance, he defines as somebody or as a woman who expects to be fully taken care of by a man. Now, we don't really figure out what specifically she has an issue with in that statement. I am thinking in a relationship you want to be one, you want full effort, which would mean that you want the guy to care. And then you want your heart and all your emotions to be also fully cared for. For the two men in the room right now, how did you, how do you feel about that statement? I honestly, I think that, I just think he did a very poor,

job of actually explaining what he really meant i honestly don't think that anyone like listen both a man and a woman yes you want to feel like the other's putting in a hundred percent effort but i don't think anyone goes into relationship wanting someone to be high maintenance i think he defined high maintenance incorrectly just just the wrong way i really don't think michel was looking for a high maintenance guy um she was 100 percent right and coming right back at him and saying well you know throwing it back in his face and essentially and saying that no you should be wanting to take care of the person just like, you know, both you guys should be doing the same thing and putting the effort in. But I think he did a poor job of explaining what he was

trying to explain. It's kind of like week two for him there because we also saw him explain his relationship with Jamie a little oddly last week and in her decision to eliminate him. Malik, how did you feel about Martin in the house? At first, be honest with you, I mean, I didn't really get a lot of, I didn't have a lot of interaction with Martin at first. But remember, like, the thing was the second on row ceremony, he was having a conversation. There's a group having a conversation. And it was when she's talking about, she felt like people were questioning her or her character. And, you know, I just remember there was a conversation happening. I looked over. And I just said, hey, you know, if y'all not

here for the right reasons, y'all going to get found out sooner or later. And so, and I looked over and I just saw like a fish expression. And since that moment, I kind of just kind of sat back and I was trying to observe more. But, you know, obviously I was there for much longer to really, really, because I'm very observant, so I really, like, sit back and, like, watch what's going on here. And so I sense, I sense something there which was it, was, I, which I, which I was trying to figure out. But, you know, obviously, I didn't stay long enough to figure out what's off about him entirely. Ah, so you're insinuating that Martin could be there for the wrong reasons. I mean, listen, I'm a good judge of character, and, um, I picked up on some things

real quick and easy and so I just I wasn't feeling 100% um I wasn't feeling a great very very very great or positive towards him interesting interesting now what about Nate because before you got on Peter and I were talking about Nate and how of all the guys that remain for some reason I feel like maybe the edit is trying to make us hesitant of Nate even though we haven't really seen anything of proof yet. Yeah. And I always say it's one of those things. You never really know until you really know, right? And for me, my interaction with Nate was very positive. And Nate was a very genuine person to me, an individual. And so I'll actually like Nate a lot. And I don't know his true intentions or like, you know, what's going to happen at the end. But I feel like

he's a good individual. It's a great human. Okay, great, great. So when you left the house, I know you left week, week, three. And there's a lot of time after that. But who did you go home and say, oh, I think it's this guy who's going to win? Nate or Joe. Okay. Nate or Joe. Yeah. What about Brandon?

You know, I said this, and I remember saying this, Brandon would be the right choice for her because Brandon is smitten by her. And Brandon is just like, he's like a young puppy child. He's like, he just will do anything for her. So if she wants someone who's just going to be all about her, then I feel like Brandon is the right choice. But when it comes to Nate or Joe, I think they're a little bit more. more mature, a little bit more advanced, you know, ready to potentially, you know, make her

their fiance or their fiance. I wonder if you're right. And we've seen the preview. There's a father that's talking to Michelle saying he's not ready. I saw that. And I was just like, and actually doesn't make sense because like even though I love all these men, like you might say, Nate is great? Like, is he ready to be engaged? I don't know. So like I said, to the end, as great as he is, maybe at the end, it could be his father. It could be Joe's father. I don't know. It could be any one of them because some father is like, I know my son. We've got to analyze that dad's face and figure out which one he looks the most like.

I was trying to. I know. I was like, who do I see in that? I think it could be Joe. It could be Joe or Brandon. I don't think it's names. I mean, I think all their dads are African-American. All right.

Malik, you got to know Clayton. We've been talking on this podcast for weeks as to why. why Clayton was chosen to be The Bachelor, please give us some insight. I wish I knew. Don't tell us that, bro. Don't tell us that. I'm serious. I wish I knew because,

you know, when I was there, like, I'd be honest with you, I thought he was going home, like, week after week. And when I got, when I got... Who does he know on the show? I'm shocked. I'm floored. There's a lot of comparison with him in previous bachelor, so maybe he has a right look. I don't know.

All right. Well, I mean, that has to lead me to another question. When we get off seasons mostly, or so I feel like there's a big group message between the cast of that season, where you kind of bring new people into the chat each week once they're eliminated. 100%. So did you guys have a group chat? Yeah, we got a group chat. And Clayton, was he in it? Clayton's not in it because Clayton's been busy. my age. He probably wasn't allowed, yeah. You know, so when I was swimming, maybe he wasn't allowed

to be there. All right. Well, you've been a wealth of knowledge. Thank you, Malik, for all your insight. Thank you, man. Whatever I have. I give. All right, thanks for being on the show. We appreciate you. I hope to have you back. I appreciate y'all. Have a great day. Bye, you too. All right. Well, Peter, we got some answers there. We did. We did. Honestly, I think, I think he's on to something. Yeah, I think I could see, I'm not going to lie, I'm a big Brandon fan, but I can and see what he's talking about the little the smitteness he feels young that's the only thing yeah yeah i see that a lot of youth there which is sweet and endearing but like ready to be married i don't know not yeah not quite the same levels yeah anything else we haven't spoken about okay well i guess

i guess chris the conversation with chris we need to talk about this chris comes and crashes the date which is the weirdest thing um but also like not supposed to because Chris keeps proving to be weird and selecting times to talk to Michelle when he, you know, and also weird times. Right. He says, I think, I think Nate Giever goes, he's like, dude, this is weird.

Yeah, oh, you keep saying, this is weird, this is weird. Yes, it is. Okay, so he comes and he's just like, I just wanted to like let you know again that Nate's not a good guy or something. And she's like, okay, well, Well, this is just like, we have nothing. She's like, I'm having a great time with them.

So I disagree respectfully. Exactly. And she's like, I don't have a good time with you, though. So I think I'm going to send you home. Again, one of the, she like, and then her whole like her response. She's so freaking polished. Oh, my God. How does she do it?

On the spot there. I'm just like, I wish I would have seen your season before I ever attempted to do this. like you are just she's I keep saying a rock star like I don't need a man to speak for me I can speak for myself going back into like how she's been treated in the past and examples and like it's just it's such an empower like she said it she feels empowered now and she's able to speak for herself and I'm just there like rooting for her and I'm like yes yes and like I honestly feel bad for Chris because it looks a little ridiculous but I mean Michelle she handled that as perfect as you could handle it with so much grace and walked him out and that was that she's so articulate

it. I'm so jealous. I feel like I need to come on this podcast every week and just be like be Michelle. Speak like Michelle. And like she should just be my role model in life. I feel like you can't really, we'll see if she gets flustered. I mean, she's had a little bit of the stuff with that last episode and guys not giving her attention, but like you really haven't seen her fully like breakdown or like has something that she couldn't really handle. I'm curious to see if she gets pushed to her limit and if we get to see that. I don't know. I think she's She'll even be articulate in that moment. I agree.

I do. She stands up for herself beautifully. Okay. So with the cocktail party, not a whole bunch to discuss. I have to say, I don't get the Rick thing. He seems like a nice guy. And I think I said it in last week's episode. I still can't think about him without just seeing his head on the tray.

And I wonder if I would have a different perspective if he didn't do that. Yeah, and I think, because like, so that's our first introduction to him, and he does have very expressive eyes. That's what it is, because I keep seeing his eyes on the tray. That's all you saw. There was nothing really to look at besides the eyes. They're just so captivating. And I think she even said that, too. Like, he did his little strut, and it was more of his eyes than the strut.

She's like, oh, your eyes. And so, yeah, he's got nice eyes. I thought they had a nice date. I don't know what that was, but yeah, I don't know necessarily. I think I had, we did a top five and he was one of my top five for the, for the end. I don't know if I'll necessarily make it there. He might be top five. You think so?

Yeah. We'll see. Maybe the fifth. I don't think the top four. Yeah, because if we were going to break down the top four, okay, you and I, on the same page, we get Joe, Brandon, and Nate. And then there's like one more spot to fill. which I think I would feel with Rodney who I was surprised

was the last rose this week because I thought they were going to leave us hanging with the Martin decision. Yeah, I was shocked by that too. And then I'm curious to see if that just gets blown over because you see in the previews like they're full on making out

in episodes that come, her and Martin. So it seems like that's not an issue with their conversation. Yeah. Yeah. I know. So who's going to get limit next week. I mean, like, it's been so obvious up until this point. And now it's like,

oh, okay. So those ceremonies are going to have a little bit more intensity to them. Truly, truly dramatic. I think honestly, I think Rick may be on the cutting board here, chopping block here. We shall see. And I think she's going to bring her parents out on a date soon and we'll know that she's pretty serious about that guy. I'm just excited too. Like, I love seeing the travel. It's coming back and seeing new places and being able to have them explore and do these cool things. Like, I think it helps the show too. So I think these ratings, I think it'll pick up this week if I had a guess. It was a good episode. I liked it. She deserves it. She does. All right, guys. After this break, we're going to do hot topics and Easton and I are going

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He's an amazing dude. And I saw him for the first time in almost two years in person. at Ben's wedding the other day. Oh, very cool. Let's take them through the evening a little bit, Easton, right? So the ceremony happened in a tent. And it was Reba McIntyre's former estate. Am I right there?

Yeah, yeah. In a lovely town called Lebanon, Tennessee, right on the water of a body of water. I'm not familiar the name. A little lake. Yeah, it was in a tent and it was very cold, but there were a lot of heaters in there. I was surprised at how warm that tent was. it's hilarious because as a pregnant person man am i like immune to cold i feel like i'm always 15 degrees hotter than what it really is so everybody was like i'm freezing i'm freezing

and i'm like really i'm fine i was so cool in that tent like cool as in like fine not like cold anyway we all had a good laugh when ben's groomsman came down the aisle because there was like 15 of them. Okay, there was 13. I was being a little dramatic. I counted. There was 13. And just to see all these guys walk down the aisle and it just never stopped was hilarious, but it's a, you know,

it describes how many friends Ben has. And Ben even had, in addition to those groomsmen, ushers, which Wells was one of them, who didn't stand up there with him, but there was like five and they seated people. The groomsman was very, I had

a really good laugh at that. Yeah. They just kept gumming and coming, you know? Yeah. The lighting in there was beautiful. It was, did you get to see Ben's face when he saw Jess walk down the aisle? You got clearly. I was like on my tiptoes.

Yeah. I, I cried. Yeah. He got emotional. I got emotional just watching him. That was, seeing Ben's reaction through the whole thing was like quietly my favorite part of the ceremony. Because you could tell, he was just beaming with love. that guy. I know. It was definitely a 27 dresses moment where half the crowd was looking at Ben to see

his reaction to Jess. Oh. So, so sweet. Their vows were beautiful. We talked last week. I mean, the vows were probably my favorite part of the ceremony. You? Oh, yeah, definitely. Definitely. I remember Ben saying, you know, he had so many important things to say to Jess and he wanted to do it in front of everyone and it really lived up to expectations people were joking afterward that ben should be like a vow writer and i'm like well that would be really sad for whoever hired him to write vows but i know what you mean they were fantastic and just looked amazing ben was kind of right about the dress in the sense that it wasn't bedazzled it was strapless it showed enough back um but it was not a line it was

more of a body con it contoured her body um and then there's 400 people there so it was a pack tent and then the the um reception was like kind of it was just pretty much a big dance party would you say yeah yeah i was there there and i knew so few people there i was like oh man are we can be like seated at some table and i have to like make small talk with like a third you know cousin higgins or something, but it was, I really liked how they did it. It was just like, like, they had a buffet with a lot of great food. And it was just like a big party the whole time. And you could just kind of walk around and hang. And, yeah, and, you know, again, it was plenty warm. There's lots of heaters everywhere because the temperatures got kind of low. But, um, but really quick,

I did want to say, you know, Ben's been talking about how you had three officiants at this thing. I thought, I was really confused how that was going to go. I'm like, are they going to, like, round Robin or like just all stand up there at the same time? It was really, really seamless how they did it. It was just like a transition from like Jess's family pastor to their pastor in Denver and then Ben's childhood pastor. And it was really, really beautiful how they did that, I thought. It was really seamless. Yeah. And then their band was awesome. The Jordan Khan band, who was actually the band that we had at our wedding, not the same, like it's the same ownership. They have this ownership.

Jordan Con has a couple of different bands they send out. But they were awesome. And Ben and Jess were seriously just like glowing the entire time. It was awesome to see everyone. And our first like real headline kind of goes off of the wedding. And that is the fact that Nick Viol and Sean Booth had a beautiful moment at the wedding. There was no tension to be found, guys. And Wells got on.

I think it was Instagram and confirmed this. He goes, it was not awkward. They were fine. And yes, they've seen each other a number of times since Caitlin's season. And I would assume that they would be fine. And other Bachelor headlines pertaining to the wedding. Let's see. Ben said before the wedding, I'm so excited.

This was this quote to People magazine. I'm so excited. We have so much to look forward to. and I know we will have a beautiful marriage. They are off on their honeymoon right now in St. Bart's. And so we're going to get so much more information about, you know, Ben and Jess's feelings on the wedding. And, of course, their honeymoon, which, I mean,

that was a honeymoon worth waiting for, I'm sure. We were all kind of talking behind the scenes about the honeymoon. Okay? I was like, you guys, this is like the night. It's like a lot of stress. I'm like, really? stressed for them. Do you think it happened that night?

I don't know. Is this the worst to be talking about this? Isn't it true though? Like when you get married, like you're absolutely exhausted after like you just, a lot of couples just crash. 50% of them, 50% of married couples like don't have sex in their wedding night.

I think that's like a real stat. I didn't. I'll be, I'll talk about that. You didn't. Okay. Well, I'll be honest.

We did. I had to for the tradition of it. and then I don't know I kept thinking that day I was like are we going to add extra stress to Jess like on this night when they finally get back to their wedding night she's going to be like I have to have a whole other new experience in my life right now that is crazy damn I know I'm probably making up for it on the honeymoon so if they didn't we talk about it I don't know With Ben? No, should we talk about it with Ben when he comes back?

Yes. Yes. Yeah. I'm dying to know. But I'm also so worried about asking. All right. Well, audience, hey, you let us know. Should we talk to Ben about his wedding night?

All right. Well, we've got to wrap up here, but we do have one more headline I want to get to. Courtney Robertson, she turned down a hundred and a hundred and, and $50,000 to compete on dancing with the stars. Are you shocked by that, Peter? I am shocked, yeah. I feel like it would be a fun, fun experience. I'd probably do it for less than that.

But did she, like, explain anything why? Or just, like, she just wasn't about it, I guess, huh? She said, I had a meeting with them right after my season of The Bachelor. That was one thing that I would have loved to have done, was offered, you know, was offered again, $150,000 plus tens of thousands of dollars for each week she remained on the show.

But apparently Ben Flitnik, who she was engaged to it at the time, didn't like the idea. He said, if you do it, you won't have a fiancé. What? All right, Peter. How do you feel about that?

What if that happened to you? Well, I think that's BS. And I think, I mean, they're not together anymore. No. Correct, yeah. So now she really just lost 150 for no reason. Yeah, no, that's a shame.

I don't know why if like I was in that position, I never, that's such a cool opportunity. Like a kind of a once in a lifetime opportunity. I don't know why he would have been anti that. I don't know. I think I would have been a little bit more supportive, but maybe he was jealous. He didn't want her to get close to the partner because everybody always speculates about a romantic relationship between the partner and also it's hard getting off of your season and then like going into like being so physically intimate with some other person and then having to do all those

rehearsals and dedicate all the time with that with that person to that craft and not to your new fiance totally and you know i mean to look at it from both sides yeah if this was right after their season i totally get him probably wanting to maybe just have some more privacy and like focus on just the two of them and not really distractions. And this obviously would have caused that. So I could see that side of it. But if she was excited, like I put myself in his shoes,

if like I had a fiance that was super excited and really wanted to, I would have been 100% behind her to do it. But it's a bummer. Why weren't you asked to do Dancing with the Stars? I feel like most bachelors do get, were you never asked? I was never asked. I, uh, I'm not quite sure why ABC. I don't know. Maybe we'll never know, but it is what it is. You and Ben are the only bachelor's, I think, of recent. Oh, I guess Colton didn't do it either.

That's right. Well, mine, I guess, was with the pandemic. But no, they were still doing it. Um, I don't know. I don't know. I love to do it, but it's like every other bachelor gets to do it, you know? well your time may still come at some point you never know all right well um anything else you want to plug before we wrap this sucker up nope we got to get ready for uh for my flight head off to the airport so it's been a treat all right well go pack your mini bag you get to come home tonight um i do yeah it'll be a late night go off to detroit and back and then uh yeah got some days off i head back to L.A. spend Thanksgiving with a fan. That'll be fun, excited for that. And yeah, just really excited for the book coming out. So, all right, guys. Repeat it one more time, Ben. Ben. Well, talk about

being used to signing off in a certain way. Peter, how, how do they get the book again? Real quick. If you're interested, I haven't linked on my Instagram, Pilot Pete, but the Adventures of Pilotpeat.com, you can go to it. Books are shipping out November 23rd. You get to sign copy from that website and uh let the adventures begin very nice okay this is how we sign off here we say i've been so and so it's very strange but it's a tradition okay so i will see you next week guys love you so much until then i've been ashley and i've been not been but i've been peter and it's been uh it's been great being with you guys so thank you so thank you so Follow the Ben and Ashley I

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