The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Too Hot to Handle with Jared Haibon

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

Ashley’s husband Jared is helping out while we recap this week’s episode of Bachelor in Paradise! Ashley has a BOLD prediction about the couples on the beach this season… and it’s not looking good. Would you ever lie when asked who was a better kisser?? Jared thinks sometimes its better to hide the truth… Plus, Jared and Ashley share their honest answers when asked who is the hottest on the show this season.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Which is so exciting. So, full circle woman here. This episode was just, you say it for me. I don't know if we're on the same bar. I want to, I know. We didn't watch it together. On three, ready? Okay.

One, two, three. Snoose Fest. Wow, this was a really uneventful episode. Yeah, I'm glad because I was watching it. I'm like, does any, like, does something happen? I mean, it's just whatever. I mean, listen, sometimes you have good ones. Sometimes you have bad ones.

Barrett's in Paradise is great. There's way more good than bad. So, like, this episode was like, it was like, all right, cool. Next week looks good with Cat losing her mind on the beach. Cat is always losing her mind. Yeah, I mean, she's a good reaction. personality, though. Yeah, she's a great reality

personality, and she's so stunning to me. I have no problem with her being on screen all the time because I just want to look at her face. So interesting. Definition of GirlHop. Oh, my. She's beautiful, obviously,

but I don't think she's the most attractive on the beach. I can't, okay, so I wasn't sure if I was going to say this on air because, like, it's like not, like, to talk about somebody's looks as like, whatever. She's beautiful, obviously.

They're all beautiful. No, no, no, no. I legit. called Lauren, my sister, in the middle of this episode. And I'm like, guys, guys don't get it. They don't get beauty. Maybe you're right. Because cat is so effing, stunning.

I can see that. And then like, Davia. Davia is beautiful. Very pretty. But like, I'm like, cat I trade faces with. Interesting. Yeah, but Davia is more like you, right? What?

No. am I thinking, let me just announce to the beginning. The names, I always just get confused. It's terrible. Davy is the one,

um, the blue eyes or the one blue eye and the one green eyes. Oh, no, never mind, yeah, she's the one who just came down.

Who's the one? Who are you thinking? The first episode, she, I said she looks like Alicia from, uh, Audrey's.

Either Mercedes or Kylie. Kylie. Kylie. You are both very, you know, they're sobered it. Yeah. Uh,

and Mercedes, they're all beautiful. That's why I love asking, I love asking, I love asking Jared this question. Okay, yeah, I don't want to, like, concentrate on looks. Everybody, obviously is beautiful. The girls are beautiful. No, no, let's just be honest.

The girls are so much prettier than the guys. I think the guys are, like, the Tanner's very good looking. Tanner's very good looking. And I think Tyler's cute. And then Braden, I think Braden's probably the hottest. Yeah, I would agree. It's very weird that, like, Jared and I are the most comfortable talking about who we're trying to take.

I'm very secure in my sexuality. I have no, well, not just that, but like, also. our relationship. Like, you don't mind that I say that I think Braden's the hottest. Who do you think is the hottest girl? All these people that we watch, they're just, they're like action figures to us. I don't even view them as real people. No offense. I mean, they're real

people. We should treat them as real people. Don't go after them. But my point being is when I'm talking about their looks or like their track of this. And we're not trying to, we're not trying to objectify, but we're also just like trying to watch like viewers and not like people who like know that who are in these positions

before. And anybody who's watching this show saying, oh, I don't objectify. We're watching people run around on a beach and bikinis and bathing suits. We're objectifying. But as long as we're nice about it, that's the important thing. And self-aware saying, oh, we are objectifying, but they're obviously beautiful people. And there are different types of beauty, which is what we're talking about. Like, you think Kat is absolutely stunning.

She's beautiful, but I think that there are more attractive women on the people. Who's the hottest girl to you? first of all you're the hottest girl to me very nice you don't have to do that I honestly you know who I think is the hottest girl on the beach you're going to be stunned oh my god wait can I guess then if I'm going to be stunned I think you're going to say Olivia then I'm going to say Rachel oh Rachel okay Rachel is thriving in paradise yeah she's doing well she looks so no but she looks like so glowy like she looks her best

self in paradise yeah she should just she's a paradise girl she's a beach girl And I'm actually surprised by that. She's the kind of girl that, like, looks better when she's, like, a little bit more, like, toned down. And you can tell that she's almost happier just by the way that she's glowing in paradise environment than she wasn't the Bachelorette environment. I feel like everybody looks better on the beach. It's that natural glow. Yeah. And it's funny because everybody comes home and they're like, oh, my God, wait till you see me.

I'm so gross. I'm going to be so gross and sweaty. And it's like, no, no, you actually look way, you look, though, your best. Yeah, I would agree. I mean, I've, I've looked your best. That's for sure. I look my best on. I look my best.

Yeah. Nick, I was saw Nick last night and he posted a picture of me and I'm like, I'm just so hideous. I hate my life. Jared, you're so insane. Your face looks way better now. That's very sweet. But anyway, let's,

I don't know. This is not what it's about. It's not what it's about. All right. Let's break down the episode. All right. So the big thing really is that it's cat's birthday. And on Kat's birthday, like she doesn't remember that in paradise, if it's your birthday,

you will get screwed over. Somebody will come down and seal the person that you're with. and that for her is Tanner. That's her person and who comes down is Davia. And it's legit the entire episode. It's just the back and forth between this. I could care less that it was her birthday. I heard it 17 times.

But you and I are like people who don't really care about our birthdays that much. I would have like forgotten it was my birthday, especially in paradise where there's like no place in time. Yeah. And she was like, it hurts extra because it's my birthday. And I'm like, well, I don't care. And then also, you know what bugs me is when people say on the beach that they're not here for social media, Instagram, or anything like that. And I just don't believe you.

Yeah, but you know that they don't really gain anything now. It is a little different. I know, but I just, the people who are like, I'm only here for a relationship, but only here for love. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Like, well, you came to the wrong place then because of course you should try to form a relationship here. But if you only came to a reality TV show to only find love, I don't know if it's going to work out. Just statistically speaking, of course. Anyway, there's no one here ending up together.

There is not one couple. Yeah, it makes me sad. It almost makes me feel like the only couple that might leave together, I guess there's two. Aaron B. and Eliza, which they're quiet. They're quiet and calm. But that's a good thing. Quiet and calm usually is good because then they're not getting much screen time, which means towards the end they'll get more screen time because that's when like the big decisions happen.

So it's like, all right, you guys got a shot. Yeah. And then, I guess, maybe like Rachel and Braden. Like, I don't think Rachel, you're rooting for them. I think that they might, they could end up leaving together, but they're not like going to be a great love. They're not ending up together. I don't think they're ending up together either, but I'm definitely rooting for them. because they're my two favorite on the beach, I think.

Same. They're my two, I think they're my two favorite individuals as well as being together. One, because I know Rachel the best out of anyone. Yep. She might be the only girl I've ever met in real person and like, like, not just Zoom. And she's just such a rootable character. I just really like her. Yeah, and I really like Braden. And then you know that I've, you don't know that I've been rooting in support of a Braden like throughout this entire experience and Ben thinks I'm a wacko. Why? But I think Braden reminds me of Dean. yeah he's just got a great it seems like he's got a great personality and he's very fun loving and

i love guys like that now would i want braden to date my sister probably not but i would love to hang out with him not because he's bad but just because he's probably you know he wants to play the field he's a good looking guy he's young he's doing well for himself like i don't think he's ready to settle down ironically because he's on bachelor's in paradise but um he's fun to watch and fun to see date people yeah so i see that the two of them i think it's going to be like a bit for somebody to come in the middle of that and have more fun together do you know what i mean like there could be like some smoke show that comes and whisks one with them away but then i think at the end of the day they're going to be like yeah but i have more fun with brayden or

rachel and they're both so attractive like you know it's going to be hard for someone to come down and really like wow them you know yeah totally uh all right so davia comes down they go on the date. And then when we also didn't talk about the Rose ceremony, like, which is really what kicked off the episode. Oh, yeah, yeah. And that's when what's her name, Sam comes in. And Sam is from Bachelor in Paradise

Canada. How do you feel about that choice of bringing a Canadian down? Like, why, I guess that they're trying to cater to the Canadian audience, which is huge when it comes to Bachelor fandom. But it's just like, we don't care. Like, no offense to Sam. I get that she's a reality

character. She definitely has, like, reality star personality points but I'm just like okay we'd rather somebody that we know if you have like such a selection to choose from yeah for us it's well who cares but if I can see why Bachelors trying to do it because

they're trying to tap into a Canadian ordinance which makes sense so I really don't fault them at all and so she comes in obviously all the guys are on her quickly trying to get that rose give me that rose

like no shame we're just like because Sean was just like hey just letting you know like you're my only chance at a rose yeah well honestly I love the honesty right yeah I love the honesty the problem is and I'm so glad she didn't give him the rose not because I don't like Sean he seems nice

and like I kind of wish he was still on the beach because he's young and good looking I wish he was there too because it's just like he's a good character Peter's a boring character yeah he's a good character but also at the same time she's older and I was like well I know that she's never going to date this kid

At least Peter is 33, she's 34 They're kind of the same place at life So there's a part of me that is glad that she gave him the rose Because it felt more authentic But at the same time I'm like This guy's a better character though And I'd rather see him date other people So as an audience member

I wish to date other people yeah Yeah same same The U.S. Open is here And on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history. The predictions will we see a first time winner and the pressure. Billy Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know. Plus, the stories and events off the court and, of course, the honey deuses, the signature cocktail of the U.S. Open.

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And they didn't even brush upon that, which I did find a little bit strange. But she ends up choosing Tyler, which I don't think was a shock to anyone in the audience. Aaron S., who is with Sam, the constipated girl, goes home. No shocker there. And then Sean and Will. And then the other John, John, the other John. Yeah, he goes home to him too. Anyway, okay, so then the next morning, it's the whole cat shebang and Davia picks Tanner without even talking to anyone else.

How would you think about that? I loved it. Good for her. She likes Tanner. She wants to take Tanner on the date. I'm going to ask Tanner on the day. I'm not even going to talk to other guys. He says yes. Bada-Bum, cool. We're on the way.

I think people, like, obviously, Kat is just the next in line of what we've seen in Bachelor Impartis with people overreacting with he didn't talk to me or she didn't ask for my permission to go on the date and he didn't tell me. And it's like, I gave him a rose the night before.

It's like, guess what? guys. The row ceremonies happen every three nights. That's what's going to happen. This is the life you've chosen. So they did that. You know what is another thing that I'm tired of that they did

on the Davia and Tanner Day? And it makes me upset that everybody's doing it now is the Patrick Swayze dirty dancing move. It just it was, it's such a pop culture phenomenon. And then I love that scene in crazy stupid love of Ryan

Gosling says he can do it and they end up doing it and it's so sweet but like Davia and Tanner did it on the day and then Rachel and Braden did it later on on the beach. Rachel and Braden are allowed to do it I know but it's like... Because they were sloppy and fun. I know it's sloppy and fun but I get what you're saying babe. I don't

like it when I know. Everybody have to do it now. Everyone, every guy has to show off of strength. Anyway, I digress. Are you jealous because you definitely couldn't lift me up like that? No, we weigh the same. We weigh the same. I'm kidding. I kidding. I was just telling Jared the other day that like non-pregnant, I am the heaviest I've ever

been or except for maybe not freshman year in college when I didn't weigh myself and it was it was not good. You're still very tiny. Thank you. But can I just say one little, one little tidbit of our lives. One time Jared and I were doing the hungry eyes dance in a hotel room in Hawaii when we were just, when we had just gotten together. We were like literally eating. in the middle of like trying to recreate a dirty dancing scene. And then the cleaning lady came in the room. And it was really hilarious and embarrassing. Very embarrassing because we were blasting the music.

So Davia, Tanner, going to date. And then Kat's losing her mind because she's on the bed. Oh, but also Brayden, Rachel get a date card. They go, they do this pinata thing, very cute, very sensual. They seem to be forming a connection. I don't think there's a really thing to be said about that. And then Kat is on the bed And then they're doing this truth or dare thing

Oh, the truth or dare thing Was probably the juiciest part of the episode Yeah Because Mercedes ends up making out With With John Henry Yeah, it was weird, right? And I'm like, wait a second

Tyler's not here Because it said somebody on the daybed And she was like really into Tyler last week And he wasn't on the daybed but she had no problem going full force with him. And then who's with John Henry? Olivia. Olivia.

And then Olivia and him go on the hot tub later on and then they make out. It's obvious that John Henry's not as into Olivia as Olivia is to him. Yeah, I know. It was very obvious. There was even that hesitation. 100%. As he is who's a better kisser. And then he like hesitated for real and it wasn't like in a, I don't think it was in a joking sense.

No, it was like, bro, just say her. Yeah, just lie right now because white lies are refined in the situation. Of course, nobody ever wants to hear that somebody's a better kiss than them. I'm like, that's, this is my old argument that, yes, you can, because there are people who say, like, you should never lie. Oh, you should sometimes. That's a moment where even if the other one's a better kisser, you just lie. And then if it comes back to haunt you because you said it on camera, you're fine because you're trying to make her feel better. Anywho

But Olivia does like suck his finger In that truth or dare situation And that was sexual Very sexual But he was still thinking about Mercedes

He was thinking Mercedes He wanted Mercedes to suck that finger Yeah And then the big thing That came from the daybed Was the Jess and Blake Oh my God Yeah

Let me just say this So now we're finding out That Jess is not into Blake As much as Blake is into Jess this is a moment, I believe, that goes back to sometimes age does matter. Oh, my God, babe, we are just so married because I was going to say he is too old for her.

Yep. Because they personally, as two separate individuals, the nine-year age gap is too much. Too much. Whereas some people, or eight years, whatever, some people, eight years, no big deal. Like, look at Joe and Serena, right? Yeah.

They have, like, 13 years. or something. The two of them, totally different places in life. Yeah, sometimes, not all the time, but life happens in the gray and everything is not always black and white like we talked about. Age sometimes does not

matter. Well, you know, obviously we're talking about adults here. But you know, so if you have a 12-year age gap, sometimes it doesn't matter. But in this case, it's eight or nine, and it matters because Blake is in a different place.

in his life and he is just not wanting to test the waters and date around and he likes Jess and he wants to move forward with Jess and Jess just isn't like that where she obviously wants to date around she obviously wants to explore on the beach even to the point where again a little just like these I'm just the old man who tells people to get off my lawn at this point but like these little side comments that just bug me and Tanner said the same thing it's like you people, you people. Because she said, like, I haven't done anything for myself, like my friends do anything.

Like, oh, yeah, you've gone on a reality TV show to date around on a beach and you haven't done anything for yourself while being here. And Tanner said the same thing where it's like, you know, it's really important. I focus on myself. I'm like, oh, you selfish. So anyway, like, you have to focus on yourself while you are voluntarily going on this beach for yourself while dating all these.

people and then oh so sorry that you might have to you know uh try to be nice to other people and date them and whatever point is um you know she made it known that she feels like she hasn't done anything for herself uh whatever but yeah it's just like it's very obvious and i feel bad for blake because um of course he's into her and he wants to move forward and it's very obvious that she wants to explore. So honestly, I think the best thing for Blake, because Jess seems so indecisive in this moment about what she wants to do, I think it would be...

Just talk to somebody else. Yeah, I would be... I think it's... I think it would be a great move for Blake just to say, listen, I think that we need to, you know, go our separate ways right now. That's kind of what he said.

I'll give you space. Yeah, but I think, yeah, Blake needs to hopefully, um, you know, take his own advice and really not only just give her space but try to distract himself because on that beach as you will know like you can give there's only so much space you can give someone it's not like you're you know you guys aren't going to see each other yeah it's actually every 10 minutes yeah sucks well it's because there's all what all hanging by the pool while you

go down to the beach i mean yeah i'm still 50 feet away from you it's intellectual space yeah there's only so much space i can't really give you so you can't really give i know emotional space but as we well, no, there's no emotional space when you're literally trying to hit on someone else 35 feet from where your ex was. So I think it's important that Blake tries to explore the relationship as well and lets Jess explore the relationships as well. And I hope he like sticks to his word because Blake obviously seems like the person who is going to be making that decision because it feels like Jess is very indecisive right now, which is understandable. She's 24. There's all these hot guys on the beach.

And she obviously really likes Blake, but she's young and she wants to explore, and it's good for her. I just think that she's not going to make that decision. Another note, I forgot that I would also trade faces with Eliza. I'm glad that during that whole monologue I just gave, I guarantee you weren't listening to me,

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New episodes every Wednesday on Exactly Right. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. One couple we haven't brought up is Kylie and Avan. They're not going to happen. I'm sorry. I know that Kylie feels like supposedly secure, but we have seen nothing from them. And I don't feel it from Avin.

I don't know that he really likes her that much. Did you pick up on any vibes? Yeah, I didn't pick up any vibes like that because Avin said that he wants to be forward with her. when he was sitting next to the brain and cat. There's one thing to say it and there's one thing to feel it.

Well, I guess I'm taking him at his word. I guess so. I don't know. You guys let me know if I'm picking up vibes from Avin that like he's not that serious about this. Because they've shown us nothing. There's one, there's one. You can be quiet like Aaron B and Eliza

and that's like quiet confidence. And then there's like quiet by a mission. And that's what I feel with Kylie and Haven. Maybe. We haven't seen a thing of them since their date. And their date really wasn't like of strong substance. Anyway, we really, you know, I know that it feels like this is a short episode of the

almost famous podcast, but I really think we kind of covered everything. Yeah. I mean, the last thing was obviously the morning of Davia talks to cat. They go back and forth. Cat is obviously trying to stick her claws into Davia and figure out exactly, I don't know what she wants anymore because it feels like she's still kind of wants to talk to Tanner as she was saying because it was obvious that she was upset when hearing that he wants to pursue something with Davia from Davia and now we're going into the conversation that's our

cliffhanger is him pulling her down to talk uh so my imagination goes that that won't go well uh because she's probably just going to lose her stuff uh also another thing in the preview charity comes down mm-hmm oh and this is so ridiculous. This is the most ridiculous thing ever. Please talk. I, I, I, I love charity. She's

great. But in the same vein as bringing down Hannah B, I am dunzo with bringing down these former bacheloretts who are in happy, committed relationships and

just trying to stir the pot for God knows why like Hannah brought down and then they made it not known if I don't know what she was dating or not pretending like she might be down there to date I didn't like that because we all know that she's in a relationship and then now charity comes down and she's gonna maybe try to talk badly about Aaron okay but she's not that's what's so weird is like Aaron is all like oh my gosh what if she says something that jeopardizes my chances with Eliza too what? Charity loved you. You came back. You came back to Fantasy Sweet's Week after you were eliminated and she accepted you back. That's how much she liked you. You had the most amical breakup of all time. All she's going to do is praise you and say that she'd be lucky to be with you. So this is all just ridiculousness. It looks like she might come down at a rose ceremony. Like a rose ceremony night? Yeah, because it's at night and they're all dressed up. So I'm thinking, does she come down at a rose ceremony?

Ramoni and throw a little rock in there of whether you said Eliza right whether Eliza picks Aaron or not I don't know but it's like can we just stop unless it's a former bachelor because now is Katie there's rumors Katie might be coming down Katie is actually juicy stuff because obviously Katie's single and now so is Blake all right so of course if you go down to date that's different so that makes sense throw her in there and The speculation is that Katie might be actually going down there to date. Yeah. So listen, of course, just like Rachel, if Katie goes down there and she's like, oh, I'm here to date and not just, you know, try to cause controversy and just, you know, pluck in and pluck out.

Great. Sure. Go. Go down and date. But I just like all these like former bachelorette's that they're like making it seem like they're going to just stir the pots. It's like, just please, no, thank you. Yeah, the Hannah thing was,

because I love Hannah. I love charity, but just like the way it's like being presented, I'm like, guys, God, God. Yeah, well, that's not them. That's not on them. I'm not saying it's on them. Yeah, okay, I just want everybody to know that you're not, you don't think that this is like their idea to come down, you know?

Because, you know, we know that this is all a production idea. We're not getting at these girls for like going to do. No, everybody, it's not like, I think everybody's aware of the fact that, neither Hannah or Charity called the show. And it's like, hey, I'd love to come down, make it look like I'm just going to really mess things out. Some people are naive, babe. Okay, my last comment about this episode is just overall, just with Kat.

Like, she's just too angry for anyone to be into her right now. Of course, but that doesn't matter because she's great for TV and let her be, let her be a set. But what she's doing, and I'm probably a hypocrite for even saying it because, like, Nobody would have wanted to be with me crying Ashley, I either. 100%. But nobody wants to be with her right now because she's just angry cat. She's like angry and extra cat. I was crying an extra Ashley and she's angry and extra cat.

Yeah. Yeah. So, no, 100%. She's not doing herself any favors. But just probably doesn't like anybody there besides him anyway. Oh, except for John Henry, which we might see in the next episode. And like, they're a hot couple. And John Henry just wants to like make out with everyone, I feel like.

So it might work. It will probably work out. And, yeah, cat is quickly becoming a great. villain in paradise so good for her and then we'll have olivia go back into her olivia mode and be like oh yeah i know olivia versus cat Olivia is really great when she's angry too because she can be just as scary as cat and now i just remembered what i forgot earlier i'm i'm so over people being like oh it's their karma you know like it's i feel bad for them but it's their karma i'm like guys you signed up for a dating show where you're all going to date in the same environment okay you're all

going to get screwed over at some point or another? Yeah, but I can understand why people were talking about a cat like that because she kind of did that to Brayden and now she's obviously going to be doing it to Olivia. Don't we all just kind of do it to each other? Like, and it's just all about like how you do it. It's all about how you do it.

Well, yes and no. I don't know if I necessarily agree with that because I think some people really do do it to themselves. Well, yeah, I'm just saying the manner in which you break up with somebody is like your karma, right? If like you're kind of about it and you talk about it ahead of time,

then people don't have issues with you. But if you just like, yes, I'd go on a date. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. But isn't that the whole point they were arguing with karma? If you handle it well, then you have good karma. If you handle it poorly, if you handle it poorly. Yes. Yes. Yes. I don't get it.

No, no. You're right. I'm just saying that like maybe karma's like a little bit like, it's just like a heavy term to really like throw around around paradise. of course because it's all fun it's all fun in games exactly that's what i'm saying it's not real life karma yeah exactly you know it's paradise karma a whole different breed of course well i mean this whole entire thing the podcast the show it's meant to be entertaining yeah you know it's not we're not talking about i mean we're all very uh aware that there are you know this is meant to be an escape. So when someone says karma, I don't take it as I guess you were saying like, hey, there's heavy things happening. That's what I mean. Okay, got it. No, this is this is an escape

obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, guys, that was fun. I enjoy doing this with you. Yeah, it was good times. Yeah, you're, I like you, you know? I would hope so. Yeah. You've Dawson a big kiss for me. Tell him, I miss him and I'll see him soon. Okay, he's up a library now. Yeah, he's up by Maybe. All right, I have to do help. We suck at being newlyweds. A man who's been married for over four years. Help I suck at being newlywoods. Love you. And until next time, I've been Ashley. I've been Jared. Bye. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcasts on IHartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

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