The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Use A Wingwoman To Find Your Man

Episode Date: May 28, 2025

Kelly Bensimon is hanging out with Jana Kramer's bestie, Pamelyn, at Bottlerock! The two single women are getting personal when it comes to dating after divorce, and what their approach to love is like at this stage in their lives. Then it's off to Bottlerock...only Kelly wants to make it interesting with some out-of-the-box challenges they need to complete! Email us at: [e-mail] or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want or gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate.

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Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast, and today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all-time Novak Djokovic. He's one 14 grand slams in a glittering career. Novak, joke a bitch. When you reach your 30, you start counting your days to your retirement.

I'm 38 this year. How long can I push my own limits? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Jumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you live,

love crimes we're not the podcast for you but if you have unmedicated ADHD oh my god perfect and want to hear people with mental illness psychobabble yes yes then emergency intercom is the podcast for you open your free iHeart radio app search emergency intercom and listen now welcome back to i do part two i'm kelly ben simone one of your celebrity mentors here on the pod and i'm so excited because today i am joined with someone who's already been on the show we loved getting to hear your story and how you're opening up about finding love again it's janica kramer's best friend pamelaan back on the pod oh my god i'm so excited to meet you We're live from IHeart Verbo podcast house at Bottle Rock. And wow, this place is incredible.

We're in Villa Montabella, one of Verbo's vacation rentals of the year in 2024. And it's everything you could dream of. Seriously, the wine cave is insane. And if you want your own amazing vacation rental, download the Verbo app and check out their 2025 vacation rentals of the year. Trust us, you won't be disappointed. So I mentioned you were on the pod before. And I was listening to all of your chats with Jana. And you're incredible and so open and so gorgeous. Your Instagram is insane. I just learned recently you're not supposed to use words like incredible, insane.

All the words that I use that are my go-toes, you're not supposed to use anymore. I saw the list. Honestly. And I'm like, what other words are we supposed to use? I know. So how am I supposed to say like, wow. Well, let's just go rogue and just do whatever. every way you want. Thank you, Pamela. I love that. I love that. Um, so first of all,

let's, for those who are listening, just a quick recap of, you know, where you are in your life. So you and Jan are best friends. You guys are neighbors. Yes. You built houses next to each other. Yes. And Jana may not be babysitting your daughter right now. Yes. Okay. It takes a village for sure. It takes an absolute little. I just like counted. There were seven women involved in helping me take care of my kids for 48 hours just to be able to leave. How beautiful is that? That is amazing. But I mean, it's a lot, but it's still like, you know, a village.

And I don't know what I would do without that. So I raised my kids in New York City. I did not have that same village. There were 48 strangers, but they were not women than I knew. But anyway, my kids are fine. And they're fine. It was fine. You know, strangers are great.

So that's amazing, and that's just so nice that you can come here and feel good because you, you know, are taking care of your children and working out and cooking and telling us everything on your Instagram, which I love. I was feeling very insecure today. I was like, okay, do I do some push-ups beforehand? Or should I just go to the gym? Or do I not eat? Always eat, please. That's what I'm trying to, like, tell every woman, you know, low calories is not the option. Right. And I think, too, which you're such a great. new role model to the pod because you're single, you're looking for love, but you're not like on the hunt. You are organically open to finding love. And like last night we were in the cave, how cool was that wine bar? Oh my gosh. Amazing. Amazing. I know. I walked in there. I was like, this is so cinematic, wasn't it? It was. Even the pictures made it look like that.

I just was like, oh my God, this place is amazing. The food was incredible. We had so much fun. The table was like so fun like everyone from bachelor's nation the housewives well in so many yeah different age groups and just different walks of life just all coming together and couples that have been together for 15 years you know you and i are single it's just like a fun mix of all these different people and we had a really interesting conversation and i loved what you said about meeting people and you said that when you meet people you are open and you are open to a relationship but you know and you have relationships for long periods of time it's not like you're like in and out like some people just the nature of the beast because we're like all these

apps and so much opportunity that we're meeting people and it's like going on one or two dates but you're really like you want to be with someone you want to get to know them and you want you know you're really looking for that person but you're not like okay I'm just going to one or two dates and then fall in love and yeah can you talk more about that sure I mean I think you have to be you know intentional, number one, and not just have, like, hopes for somebody's potential and really like hone in on, you know, truly like, what is this person, you know, going to, like, do for me. And in return, like, what can I, you know, do for them to better their lives? Because at this point in our lives, we have a lot of things. We have careers. We have our children. We have our children.

and we have homes, we have this life that we've already built. And so if we're going to let somebody in and, you know, invest in that energy, it has to be like the jackpot for me anyway. The jackpot. Do you guys hear that hashtag the jackpot? Pamelaan is telling us that's what we want. Maybe that should be the new app called the jackpot. I love that.

She's like, the jackpot, mic drop. So when we're looking for that jackpot, is he a single dad? Would you ever consider dating anyone who is single, a single dad? I think ideally that would probably make the most sense because they truly understand that we're not going to be each other's main priority, like ever. You know, I mean, it's your kids. And then I think yourself should then come next.

or maybe even yourself first than your kids, right? Because if we're not, you know, mentally stable and we're not at peace, nobody is going to thrive. You know, and then it's like we're talking third place. And so if somebody can't understand that. Not third base. Third place. If somebody can't understand that, then it's going to be a little bit of a situation.

You ever had a conversation with someone and been like, by the way, like, you're going to be third place? And what do they say? Well, if they're a single dad, they get it. They're in. They're like, freaking sign me up because this is exactly what they're thinking. And in hoping, I think, most, you know, are hoping that there are women out there that also, you know, think like that. And I think both men and women, we get, like, scared, you know, what if we don't give that person? person enough. Like, are they going to, you know, not want to us? Like, do we have to be this,

um, you know, drop everything type of situation? And I don't think it has to be like that. And for me, it won't be like that or else I'm just not going to do it. I'm just going to like stay in my happy, beautiful little life with my community and my village and my kids and my company and travel and be so, you know, so, so happy. Yeah. I do believe that somebody can make me even happier, and I'm super excited for that opportunity. And, you know, I mean, I visualize it. I'm like, you know, you get excited about it.

But I'm also not going to romanticize something that's just not there. Or that's not possible or that maybe somebody is not capable of. Okay. So what if they haven't been married before? So. But they do have kids. Oh, I don't care about that. Yeah, I don't care about that.

And again, I say ideally would be a single dad, but I'm not closed off to somebody that's like super emotionally just in charge and understands that, you know, I have kids and that's, you know, my main priority. I mean, I think that there are also like people out there that are so evolved in thinking like that and realize if they're, getting into a relationship, you know, with a woman like that, that's just like not going to be the case. And I, I mean, the older we get, the older men get, the older women get, we want to do our own thing. Like, we want the freedom to travel and to, you know, make our own decisions and not have to check in like, hey, I'm running to the store. I mean, you know, and so to have freedom like that, I think is the magic formula. I think a lot of times, like, the demise of relationships are the mundane and, like,

these just, you know, daily things that kind of can get very boring if you're not spicing it up and making a conscious effort to really invest in your relationship. And you do that together because you have children together and you're married and this is what you kind of signed up for. And that's just like, you know, the societal norms. but when you get out of a marriage and you're not in that like thing that everybody's you know this normal right in quotes relationship that everybody says that you're supposed to do x y and z you have this abundance of freedom to like make your own rules and do whatever you want in that next

relationship and so that's where i'm at right okay like i'm going unconventional see i've just been single for over 15 years, then I had that little blip. But it's funny when you're talking about the spicing it up. Like, I just want, like, my, like, love language is, like, the normalcy and the consistency and, like, having breakfast together and, like, making plans and, like, you know, you're going to the market. Do you want, you know, a coffee? Sure. Like, that I'm, like, I do love that. That's beautiful. I'm from Rockford, Illinois. Your kids are older. Right. So you have that space. You have that capacity to give that. I wanted that when they were younger. See, I don't. I tried to create it. I was like, I raised my kids with a suburban

urban lifestyle, whatever that means. I'm like, it's not like Megan Markle. And I'm like, you know, I tried to like create this environment for them that was like every day, but that we were also living in this wild big city. And so I always like, that's, I think one reason why they are very like, and I don't want to say real because that's just sounds so, that's one of those weird words. But well-rounded, yeah, thank you. So, yeah, but I guess I just always wanted that. I just always wanted that. I don't want

the spice. I want the calm. Oh, I want the spice. I need, oh, I just want the spice. Wait, I'm a Torres. My name is Kelly. I'm a Leo. I'm a Leo. So there we go. There we go. There we go. You're like, oh. She's like, Queen of the Jungle. And I think eventually, you know, I'll be 47 and my kids are 9 and 11. And so it's a daily thing. There's sports like crazy.

They need me a lot right now. And so, you know, when we talk about the capacity, like what is it? How much do I have, you know, to give to somebody? And so I, and I'm selfish about the time I have with my kids because now I only have them 70% of the time. So when I'm with them, it's, it's, you know, very intimate. And it's like I drop everything so that I can really focus on that time. And I'm not saying that it can't overlap, you know, a little bit. But I think that I would more so be thinking like you when they get, you know, a little bit older.

And I have some. And I'm also scaling my company and trying to build this, you know, empire too. Yes. Which is super important. because I have to take care of myself and my kids. Right. Monetarily. So I need to do that, you know?

I love that. But I get that. I love the simple thing. And when I say spice it up, I don't like to go out all the time. I don't do anything like that. I don't even really drink. It's not that that kind of spice, but it's like, let's go and we'll meet here for a chill weekend, you know. And then we'll go here and, you know,

maybe it's like every other week when I don't have my kids, I go to where he lives. Every other week, he comes for three days where I live. I mean, I think that's like the flexibility and that like unconventional approach that I think would work best for me right now. And so I think subconsciously that's why I don't really date in Nashville. I don't want you up in my backyard. I don't want you up in my backyard. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam.

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.

Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Official, writer Strong, and Wilfredel from PodMeets World.

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And so anytime I've dated anybody... Do they ever, like, look on TV and like, that should be our daddy? I'm like, how are they with you? Well, I mean, they love their dad and they, you know, yeah, but like, but they... And I love that. They, um, they, they, so anytime I've dated anybody, they do not know. I've never involved them in any of it. They've never met anybody.

And I just try to stay, like, compartmentalize those two things right now. And that's not going to be forever. and there probably wasn't anybody that was, you know, worth them meeting. But they just can't wait. Oh, yeah. They want all of these other step, you know, brothers and sisters. And they're, like, very specific on what they want. They want older brothers and sisters.

Yeah, they want that whole crew. You know, it's interesting because, like, my kids would be like, when they were younger, I would say I want a family for my family. And I've always wanted that. I told you that before. And my kids would be like, okay, what does that mean? Do we have to share with people, your time? Now they're just like, mom, we just want you to, like, have a friend because, like,

you're, like, bothering us. And there's only so much aloe we can buy together. Like, we need to have your own friend. Yeah. And so they're sweet. And they're obviously older now. They're 24 and 27. But it's just, isn't it like, I would never tell my mom.

mom. Like I can't imagine like telling my mom like, you know, oh, you should do this. I never told my, I never told my mom she should do anything. I just reported for duty, whatever she told me to do. I did. Well, and my mom was divorced. Twice. So she divorced my dad when I was like four and then she got remarried and got divorced again. So I mean, I kind of like went through, you know, her whole like evolution of dating and thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, when she, I was, I think, 14 when she divorced my stepdad. So like right in the height of, you know, high school and adulthood and trying to, like, figure all of that out. And then she's simultaneously trying to figure out. And I look back and, you know, she was like my age, even younger, when she was going through that second divorce. And so you, you look at that

situation differently now that, now that I'm going through it. And, you know, you really just, yeah, your heart almost like, you know, breaks for her. Do you guys talk about that? Are you guys close? Yeah, like, she really helped me. And honestly, because I saw her go through it and because I saw her just crush life and build, you know, and build her life, you know, after these two divorces, I think that helped me know that I could do it also. Do you have siblings?

I have a brother. Yeah. Is he older or younger? 18 months younger. Okay. Oh, so he's like a twin. Like me. I have a twin brother.

An actual twin brother, though. Oh, you do? Actually. But isn't it interesting when you have that. a close opposite sex, how it's kind of like how you see relationships differently or you respect the opposite sex differently when you have that. Yeah. That's so nice that you're so sweet about your mom. I love that. I mean, I had a great mom, but I didn't have that kind of connection with her. I mean, again, it was like reporting for duty. I just... Well, she... But to also say,

because she was, you know, and back then, I mean, in the 80s, the divorce was so different. The custody was so different. It was like, I got to see my dad every other weekend. It's not like that anymore. Well, I mean, for most people, it's not really like that anymore. And so she was really like the main one, you know, that. And so our relationship was great, but she, all my friends with, my mom's my best friend, it wasn't like that with my mom and I, because she had to almost like keep it a little bit separate. She was the mom. She was, you know, the disciplinarian. Like, so she, it wasn't like we were best friends. Right.

And I think that that's actually better when there is kind of a buffer between a parent and a child. I know it's difficult now with there's so much divorce. But I just feel that sometimes when my friends are like, we're best friends, I'm like, okay, so you guys chop together

or you have lunch together, but that doesn't mean that you're asking her advice or his advice because just like the maturation process is different and what they're going through. and what you went through and how they're just, their experiences are just totally different. So I, I mean, I will, my kids always, like, kind of wanted to know. And I gave them enough information so they felt included, but not enough that were, they were like, they felt responsible.

Yeah. No, and I think that's responsible on your end. And I think that, you know, well, because. I don't know. I'm, like, always like, just grow my kids. I think people are oversharing with their little kids, especially. And I just, I'm just not going to. to do that. And I just say, you know, mommy is so happy, you guys, like literally full of joy. I have

everything. And so when that does happen, and it will, I know that I'm not going to, you know, not have a significant of other or a lover, you know, that's so intense, like, for the rest of my life. I know that. And so when I, when I get there and it's appropriate, like, you will be the first to know, and I will be so excited to tell you. But right now, you know, Mommy, Mommy has nothing to tell you. Mama's got a great bond. She's cool. She's got great friends. She's all set. Speaking of being all set and having a great bond and I'm like, you know, what you, I mean, obviously every guy wants to date you, clearly, but what about you? What are you attracted to? I think this is the fun part. And I think that so many women in our situation focus on like the

hard right in the in the negative and like how you know it's a jungle out there and for me i have embraced it where this is like pamela two point oh version of what i like so what i liked my whole earlier you know life is has clearly not worked out for me right so so let's paint that picture so what like what just like quickly like what what what what were you interested in or attracted to and what are you now so we can get a picture well i'm still figuring it out but what i what i've been what my past yeah my past i think um it was always you know like very athletic um bigger tall maybe like more alpha male so like a lot of ego She's like tall, I think, you know,

jock, ego. Perfect. A lot of ego there. Probably like not vulnerable enough. Right. And then I don't think I required enough from them because I probably saw that they couldn't give that. Then I just thought that that was the norm.

And what do you, I mean, I'm not your therapist and I don't play one on TV, but why do you think that you were attracted to someone who wasn't giving you enough? I know, right? Like, let's unpack it. I mean, I'm still unpacking it. Yeah. I think I was really just like attracted to like the shiny toy hot guy. Yeah. We're also a Leo now that we know, now that we know your star sign. We know that you're a Leo. So you're probably like, I can handle it. You just do you. I can And that was the thing. Not that I know anything about star signs. Don't ever anyone ever ask me about a star sign because I have no idea. That's the thing. I mean, I was, I was in my mind happy, though, with these men because I just take it upon myself to find my own happiness too. Like,

I don't just look at getting that from somebody. So I always had a million friends. I was always doing my one thing. I was always growing my career. I was always working. And so I really, wasn't like just looking, you know, for somebody to make me happy. But when I look back, they were really giving not much, like, at all. Right. And so now you want someone that's more empathetic, more loving. I need vulnerable. How do you find a vulnerable guy? Like on your app, I've found, I've found them. I've actually found two men. I've actually found some that may be a little but too much. Oh, God, no. Oh, my God. Please not. But I've found because I'm not even accepting anything less than that. And so I've definitely found them. I think that it's a little bit

of digging, right? It's like, you know, you can tell by messages and, like, questions. You can tell. See, I'm like a one-word answer kind of person. Like, I'm chatty with you. But when I'm writing, I'm like, great, fun. Looks good. Like, I'm kind of like an AI. Well, I think it's like, you know, they're willing to share things. And that is the cool part about being this age

is we have a lot of depth. We've all been through a lot. Yeah. And so I think there is a lot to unpack and talk about. And if you're going to act like everything's, you know, roses all the time and not really,

like dig in. I'm not really interested. I feel like it's like people are like, it's kind of like the new version of trauma bond where like in your 40, in your like late 40s, late 30s, 40s and 50s, where you, because you're saying like to your point, we have so much more experience. And so now when someone says something like I can empathize. Like if this were 10 years ago, I would be like, I'm sorry, what are you talking about? Like why are you telling me this? No, we have no idea until you go through it. Until you go through it. And so it's just, I mean, it makes it, I'm actually more interested to hear, like, how they're navigating things or how they dealt with their ex-wives or all those, you know, obviously in positive ways. I don't want to hear the negativity.

Totally. Yeah, I'm like, not into that. But, you know, I really, it makes me feel more connected to them versus just like being like, do I want dinner? Sure. Do you like red wine? Yeah. Do you want pasta? No.

Like, you know, yeah. This temple? No. stuff like that no and it's so yeah i think it could be so much more deep and so much more beautiful actually because if you think about like um you know when you're younger and you're just trying to right like find your husband and you're in the first stage of all of that and you're out and you know you're with your friends and that's all that you really you have so much time to do that you have so much time to find that person that's all everybody's doing they're just out in a

out. There's not a ton of responsibilities. That's like your goal on most people. That's their progression. They're going to find their husband. They're going to have kids. They're going to buy the house. I mean, that's the stage that they're at. We're not at that stage. Yeah. So, and we don't even have as much time as we did then. So it's like you almost kind of got to get to it. Yeah. Right. And pack quickly because I got to go. Bring a carry-on bag because I don't have time for your whole luggage. Well, I think this is the best quote. I don't have time for your Louis Vuitton trunk. I think this is the best quote. Like, you know, you start to like, you have to, you know, ask those questions.

Don't jump into things too quickly. So it's like you hire slowly and you fire fast. Oh. So you start to ask those questions, right? Like you get, you're kind of like in research mode. You're exploring. You're asking all these questions, but you're asking the hard and the right questions. You're getting all your information.

When women immediately after like one day, they're like, oh, I'm in love. He's the man. He's, no. girlfriend you're it's not it's not that and so it drives me crazy when when people get so hooked so quickly um because you really have to dig and then if it's not it if it's not a hell yes get rid done move on don't hold on to it for these like hope that it's going to be something that's i think the biggest mistake and then at this age i don't have six months to hold on to something that is not like and you kind of know

you know. Jana gave you some really good advice. We're not going to go over it because I want you, I want the listeners to listen to Jana's podcast with you. She gives you some really, really good tips. So you guys have to check that out. But what I do want to know is that have you ever had a fun wing woman who may be a slightly bit older than you hang out at Bottle Rock,

listening to fun music? Have you ever done that before? I have never. because right now, right, like all my friends are married with three kids. Nobody's going out. Nobody is having that situation. So I would be honored if you could do that with me today. I think we're going to crush it. We are going to have so much fun. So this became like kind of like my thing. A couple of months ago, we were at IHeart Radio for Jingle Ball. And I took some of my new friends. out. And I just can talk to anyone. I mean, I don't know if it's a blessing or a curse, but I'm just like, hi, I'm Kelly. And people are like, okay, good, because I can't. I'm not, I'm like shy. I can't do that. And I literally will start asking them questions. I'm just like, so I'll be like, and this is my family. And I can do it for you. Yes. But I get really shy

about me. So this is going to be perfect. See, we're perfect. But see, I can't do it for myself. I'm just like, I will talk to people, but they're like, are you talking to me for your, my, myself. My God, no, no, no, my friend. I have this friend. Yeah. She happens to be adopted gorgeous and she's doing next to me. Yes. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, him, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting

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Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Official.

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Do we like the same kind of guy? I don't know. Are we going for like what about what's your age range? My age range is. I think we overlap for sure. I think so a little bit. I mean, I just, I don't mind a little bit younger but and not too much older. like I can't do 70 and I um because I'm just wildly um immature so that would just not work at all can

you see me with 70 year old I would be like yeah no right circles yeah um it's not about being fit like I don't it's like the people the guys are like oh you were a model so you must like people that are really fit I'm like that's not true I just like fun you like fit yeah you're like the fit jock I'm not I'm like I just like the person that's having the best time I don't actually like the very, very built. No, I don't like the, like, big kind of built. I just, I like more like the just fit in mind, body, and soul. Like, let's be honest. You know, because you can have this beautiful body. And if you're messed up in the head, I mean, I don't want that either. So I think, like, it's just the well-rounded for sure. I think I'm just because of my, like, my, like,

wherever I go for my favorite memories are, like, Lake Geneva, Wisconsin, hanging out with all my friends, like jumping in the water, water scan. I like people that are men that are just like having a really good time. So I'm like the frat boy with a job. And maybe not so much of the beer gun, but like I'm okay if it's like, you know. And you know, all this to be said. Like she's like a frat boy. I know she doesn't. Yes, I do. I actually really like. Let's go to. What college should we go to check it out? Oh my God. No, no, no. I go to these parents weekends and I'm like, oh, these are not what I mean by frat boys. With all this to be said, though, we can sit here all day long and talk about like,

okay, what do we like, this and that. But for me, it's just this energy. So when I meet some people in person, I may not have liked them on, let's say, Raya. It's the energy. But it's this energy that's like, whoa. And I did have this experience where, you know, I matched with somebody and, And he was, he was super smart. And I love this.

No, not the little one. Wait, can we talk about him though? Or no? Okay, no. Yeah. And. I'm like, is he going to be boring? He's super techy, like, you know.

But I did like the sophistication and the classiness and this very, you know, smart part that, like, smart is really doing it for me right now. And so I'm like, okay, Pam, let's do a FaceTime and see. Is there some swagger? Like, I need the swagger. Well, my mom would be mad if I said Pam, because she's like, Pamelaan, I did not give you this name. Yeah, Pamelaan, not Pam.

She's like, she's like secret name, Pam. So we did a FaceTime, and I was like, well, go ahead with your bad self, with your techie, you know, I was so impressed. And so it just, it was a really good, you know, experience for me to not just judge by maybe, like, what you do for a living is going to correlate to, are you exciting or fun or, you know, are you swaggy just because you're in this field? And so in a perfect world, we meet the guy out. We have the energy and it's just this, like, magnetic thing. But in this world, it's really hard to go out all the time. find that. So that's, you know, why we're here doing this. Right. One of, one of our new friends that

I, that I was talking to last night, she was saying that she lives, she's in San Francisco and that she goes out and because she was on reality, she'll go out and she'll meet these, she'll, you know, go out and do whatever, but like guys are never like, hey, or like I saw you on this show or that show. And then she said, she'll get home and they'll DM her. And like, that's, I don't want to be out in the wild. I want to meet the real people. I want to see the vibe. you know, I, that's what I'm, that's, I like that too. Yeah. And I think, I mean, you know, because I'm not, I wasn't on a show or anything like that,

so I don't have that kind of, I guess, where people would know, oh, who I am, you know, I'm just. Oh, we know who you are. Normal, but. I know who you are. But I think even like for me, when I am out for the rare times that I am, or even like at the gym or wherever it is, I. I don't think that I give off the vibe of available enough.

And that's what I think I have to work on personally. You know what? That's so funny that you said that because I think I have to do that too. I think that... Like I don't smile. Like I get embarrassed. It's partly I truly am shy around men. But see, I smile a lot.

I'm just a smiley person. I don't know. I was blessed with good teeth. Like I'm a smiling person and I'm also very outgoing, but I'm also super shy. Like I were said, like I'm very outgoing. this way. But then if you come into my territory, I'm like, mm-mm, I'm like this. I'm like, that's why we need each other. It's why it's going to be perfect. Oh, my goodness. Okay, well, we have to have like some kind of code. Maybe we'll just, maybe it'll be Pam.

Oops. Don't take my mouth. If your mom's listening. It can be our name. Yeah. We have to like some code of good or bad? Or like, which one? Or like if so if you're like, I really like this guy and I'll be like, okay. I mean, I'm not, I would never, I would be like, you have, but like what, um, like a girl code. Like a Luand de la Ceps, Countess Luan, Girl Code. Like, love you, CD, we're going for you. Like, what, Countess Lowell, C-L, not CD, Candice, Luan, C-L. Like what?

How about like a workout? What's like a workout thing? Well, I was just going to say this, it's so random. Back in the 80s when I was, you know, like a young kid, so many kids were getting kidnapped. It's not funny. But, and so there was a code word that you were supposed to have with your mother. Like, if somebody said, hey, you know, come here, your mom said that, like, you know, we need to take you home from school

today. That's what they were saying to these kids. And so our code word was Cheerios, me and my mom and my brother. So maybe that's the bad one. Maybe that's if we don't like them. Okay, yeah. Cheerios is like a no. But I don't know what the good one is. I don't know. Like some kind of like, what's like something that's really, I mean, I like a Cheerio. It's fine. But what's something something that's like really good that's like forbidden fruit loop apple an apple it's like an apple a day keeps the doctor no no but like from the um you know they were supposed to adam and eve oh apple oh oh here i am like i'm going like she's like no no kelly like apple like apple like apple like adam and eve well you didn't know where i was going she's like stay with me stay with me okay fine so apple

is for forbidden like hot guy and the cheerios is like yeah okay so we all right so we have our lingo down um and then i want to know like just a quick thing like okay so at a concert is there a red flag of like people are drinking too much it's too loud absolutely too drunk i can't i can't do it like i just can't do it i'll have you know it's fine like a glass of wine cocktail or two whatever but I just, I don't like that at all. Yeah, when a guy drinks too much, sorry guys. And they're like, I love you. I fucking love you.

It's like, oh my God. Well, the same for women, it's just not attractive. And, you know, and especially at this age. Plus, I don't want someone unpacking when they're drunk. No. Because if you can't remember it, then you don't mean it. I want to remember everything about these experiences that I have. And, you know, it's like clouded.

Okay, one last question. So on your podcast with Janet, she said that sometimes she has a hard time, like not empathizing, but connecting with people that are like well-known or have been on TV like her. And I was listening to that. And I thought to myself, yes, sometimes it's difficult because you're like, okay, that person's well-known. And so they have this whole world that you're thinking of. But I wanted to address that. because I was like, you know, there's some people who I've learned so much from, whether

they're on television or whoever they are. And on this podcast in particular, like, I've gone through such a, like, maturation process. I mean, I've grown up so much in the past, like, five or six months. I love that. From therapy to, like, meeting new people, like, making new friends, being able to, like, really just be open and honest and not, like, not care what people think. And so I'm just hoping that like we can all bring something to someone. And you never know what someone's going to say that's going to be like, oh my God, yes. You know, like you've said a lot today and you've said a lot on your, both of your podcasts that have been like super powerful and very positive, which I think is so nice too. I think that the energy you put out is going to be

the energy that you get back. And so if I'm sitting here saying, oh my gosh, it's so. so hard out there. Geez, there's nobody. They all, I mean, that's what I'm going to keep getting. Yeah. And that's actually not even like the reality. I mean, I'm meeting amazing men doing really cool things that I think, you know, are evolving pretty well, too.

It just, maybe there hasn't been, you know, the guy. The guy. The guy. Okay, so we're going to bottle rock. So we're going to play some kind of fun. We have to have a challenge or game or something. Oh, goodness. Well, I'm competitive, so.

Oh, wow. Okay. I mean, I can be competitive, but really with myself, not with other people. So I'll be like cheering you on. You're my height girl. Oh, my God, I'm so competitive with myself. I have to turn myself off. I'm like, oh, God, there she goes again.

I have my own inner Pam, like in my own. I'm like, oh, she's just too loud over there. So, okay, so let's come up with a goal. Okay. So here's some options. we can actually Luan who's on house husband me she was like she's like darling i want you to ask a stranger um for a drink and but you have to write write this little note down on a piece of paper and like slide it over i was like i could never i did it i did it oh my gosh with my two

best gay friends i was at a bar in new york city and i wrote it and i slid it and this guy came over. And then I was like, oh, my gosh, I would die. I mean, my heart is like, probably eating right now. But then he happens to be on Love Hotel with Luan, and I was just like, how is this my life? Stop. Yeah. He's like, yeah, I'm going to be a new show, like television. Like, hey, I was like, oh, that's nice for you. It's like, oh, God. And he's like, yeah, I was like, what's it called? He goes, love hotels. So is that like a red flag? I'm sure you're falling in love with Luan because everyone falls in love with the one. Is that a red flag for you, like a third? doing something like that. For me, it's difficult because like literally every single person in my

whole pool of like my dating pool has dated someone who I've been on television with. So it's been like very challenging. And it's just like constantly like, oh, guess who's dating someone? So I'm like, oh, wow, that's great. Okay. So here's our challenge. Okay, I'm going to give you some options. And then you can tell me yes or no. Okay. Okay. So we can get a phone number from a guy or you can give someone a phone number. So when we say, so it's not you getting the phone number for me. It's like I have to get it myself. Oh yeah. Oh gosh. Oh gosh. I'm not going to be like here's your number. I just, I don't know. I just don't. Okay, no. Move on that. Or instead of like the phone number, you can be like, I don't know. Like, I mean, I always say like, I go get on my Insta. I've never initiated a conversation.

I can't even give an eye contact, let alone give him my number. So this is going to be a lot. Okay. Just smile. Okay. Forget the icon. I can smile. Okay, you're going to smile. That's going to be like people are good. Guys are going to be like, look at her. She's so pretty. Okay, so we're going to get a number or an, and I think we should do like Insta, because I don't really feel comfortable with giving someone my phone number, but fine with

Instagram. Yeah, follow me on Insta. I may or may not read it. I'm joking. No, no, I'm definitely going to read it. Get a guy to buy you a drink. So we have to have someone be like. That's easy.

I mean, because we don't even have to ask. No, no, but you don't know, but not them coming and just. saying, can I buy you a drink? You have to say, I want you to buy me a drink. Oh, God. So it means you have to like, initiate. It's like you and I like initiate. Okay, I get it. I get it. It's very, very. I'm going to be in a miniskirt, so I'm going to be definitely like out there.

So my gosh. Oh my God. There we go. Here we go. So, okay, we have to ask someone, get the drink, phone number. How about ask a guy to dance? I could do that. You could? Yes. I could do that. Maybe for like a TikTok. Do you want to be in my TikTok?

I wouldn't even ask. I could just like for some reason when I, so, I love it so much. Are you a good dancer? Yes. Oh my God. I'm awful. Look at me. I'm like a giraffe.

I'm like, oh. So I mean, I could see myself like grabbing a guy's hand and like twirling or doing something. Yeah, I could do that. Oh, God. Okay. This is going to be great. All right. And then I'm going to make an introduction to someone who I think is like attractive.

So I kind of know your vibe. And I will be the same. He's not a sub-boy. No, he is not. I didn't like them when I was in a sorority, let alone now. See, this is good. So we're like, we're like all good. And then we're going to go to bottle rock and we're going to have the best time. And then we're going to recap all this. Oh, geez. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Pameline. I'm going to just call you, Pam, but in my inner voice, I'm not going to say the out loud because I don't want your mom to get mad at me if I ever meet her. Well, when I have an alter ego that's called Pittsburgh, Pam, and we talked about that I love Pittsburgh. I know. I know. When you just take me to like the PA, I will just bring her out.

Yeah. Wait, where are you from Pittsburgh? It's a town called Munhall Homestead. It's like where all the steel mills used to be. Yeah, oh, beautiful. Pittsburgh is a vibe. It's like so great there. I'm so grateful that I, you know, grew up there and I go back all the time. I love that. Yeah. Yes. I Love that. All right. So, you guys, thank you to Pamela so much for coming. Janet, thank you so much for introducing me. We are going to have the best time ever here in Bottom Rock, here in Napa Valley. I'm not a singer, but I sing it. I don't know why. But I can't wait. Yay! So are you ready to date again, but need some wing woman advice? Your mentors are here to help. Email us or call us, all the infos in the show notes, follow us on socials. Make sure to rate and review the podcast.

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