The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Video Girl with Peter Weber

Episode Date: February 23, 2024

Pilot Pete is coming in for a landing to help Ashley break down the latest Bachelor Nation headlines! Hear Peter’s take on Nick Viall’s return to TV, another controversy in Kaitlyn Bristowe and Ja...son Tartick’s break-up, and what it means to change up the “Bachelor lingo”. Plus, Peter spills everything about the mystery girl on his Instagram! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh, my God, perfect.
Starting point is 00:00:55 And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Hi, it's Honey German and I'm back with season two of my podcast. Graziez, come again. We got you when it comes to the latest in music and entertainment
Starting point is 00:01:14 with interviews with some of your favorite Latin artists and celebrities. You didn't have to audition? No, I didn't audition. I haven't auditioned in like over 25 years. Oh, wow. That's a real G-talk right there. Oh, yeah. We'll talk about all that's viral and trending.
Starting point is 00:01:30 with a little bit of cheesement and a whole lot of laughs. And of course, the great Vibras you've come to expect. Listen to the new season of Dresses Come Again on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Everyone thinks they'd never join a cult. But it happens all the time to people just like you. And people just like us. I'm Lola Blanc and I'm Megan Elizabeth.
Starting point is 00:01:54 We're the host of Trust Me, a podcast about cults, manipulation, and the psychology of belief. Each week we talk to fellow survivors, former believers, and experts to understand why people get pulled in and how they get out. Trust me, new episodes every Wednesday on exactly right. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcasts with IHartRadio. Hello everyone. Welcome to another episode of the Almost Famous Podcast. It is I, Ashley I.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Why did I say that like that? know how many times have you said that i've never said it in like this six years we've done this podcast and that is peter we have him on the podcast today because he is well star of the traders and we're going to do a whole episode about his experience there so stay tuned for that but until then we are going to go over headlines now i know peter that you're not fully caught up with this season yet but have you spoken to joey whatsoever i haven't spoken to joey uh just exchanging a couple of texts back and forth since his experience ended. But I got to know him a little bit before he left for film. And he was out in New York for a couple days over like the whole US
Starting point is 00:03:09 open. So obviously that's his little niche with the tennis thing. So got to know him, went out, you know, and had a couple drinks. Awesome, dude. I totally get why they picked him to be the bachelor. Again, I haven't been able to catch up on the season up to this point. But, you know, I have all the faith in the world that he's going to kill it. And I hope it works out for him. he has been such a good bachelor we're so excited every week he's just shining um but of course our first headline is because he always has to come with the controversial headline making statement nick by all our friend nick by all says he thinks that joey is being too much of a people pleaser and he's taking the easy way out of things now you actually told me on the other
Starting point is 00:03:55 episode that we recorded, that you thought of yourself as a people pleaser on The Bachelor. How so? Okay. So interesting remarks from Nick. Obviously, yeah, I can't speak on it specifically with Joey, but I get it. If that's what Joey's going through right now, or if that's how he's deciding to handle the show right now, I totally get it. I hope that he pulls out of that and doesn't necessarily feel like he has to continue that route the entire time just because it will get exponentially harder if he continues to do that. I wish, looking
Starting point is 00:04:29 back on my experience, I just, I wish I would have been a lot more selfish. I wish I would have been, you know, I remember thinking when anyone showed up, you know, when I met, you know, all these 30 plus women, I was going to give each one of them my everything. And even if like in the beginning, I didn't feel like a certain like hard, hard connection with them because everything they had sacrificed to be there and the time they had taken out, I just felt like I owed it to them to really kind of still do a little bit of a dive there and just be 100, 100% confident that, yeah, there isn't anything here. That wears on you.
Starting point is 00:05:02 When you're doing a show for two months, you're doing that people pleasing, you know, persona act. I get it because you don't want to hurt people. You don't, you're thinking of everything. You're thinking of, okay, how is the public going to react to this? Like, just pure respect for human beings. Like, you can't, you don't want to be a dick to anybody. And not, I'm not ever, I'm not, you know, advocating for any bachelor in the
Starting point is 00:05:23 future to be addicted to you know the women on the season but what I am saying is you got to put yourself first and make decisions in the moment that are purely for you it's you took on that role to be the bachelor to go hopefully find a wife with that we're going to come a hell of a lot of uncomfortable conversations a hell of a lot of uncomfortable moments awkward moments just embrace it and know it you're not going to you're not going to have it doesn't it doesn't matter what way you play the show you're not going to have everyone love you you're not going to have everyone agree with your choices, that doesn't matter. If you're going on there to find a wife, go on there with that intention and let the cards fall as they may, but you got to put yourself
Starting point is 00:06:02 first in every aspect is truly my opinion. Peter, it's like you read the article without reading the article because the whole thing is about Nick saying that he hasn't eliminated anybody outside of a rose ceremony, the two and one not included. And he said this before this past week's episode where he did eliminate Jess at a group date. because beforehand he was like he's playing too much by the rules it's way easier to let somebody go at a rose ceremony than say
Starting point is 00:06:30 during a group date or during a one-on-one like hey I'm actually not feeling it it's time for you to get out of here I wonder what Nick would say now that he did in like week five episode six eliminate somebody during a group date so maybe he doesn't feel the same way anymore
Starting point is 00:06:46 but he said to me that's just Joey the people pleaser kind of wanting to be nice he comes across is super nice it very much does but it's less authentic it's the easy way out i don't know that it's less authentic i think as you were saying it's maybe just harder on you in the long run yeah it makes it a hell of a lot harder um again it you you play it's like you play so many roles as the bachelor like you have so many hats on and again everyone's focus is to find someone but i i can see i can kind of see i guess maybe just the limit
Starting point is 00:07:22 bit of time i met joey joey really does seem just like a good good nature person so sweet yeah like there's zero there's zero dick in him like dick about him right like he is not a bad person at all just good good intentions and that kind of personality it can be tough in this environment to make it through two months of again that kind of pressure cooker and that the bachelor is um it's tough but it's funny i saw what i did see was his finale they kind of like had a similar opening so i remember remember from my season with like the end being the first thing that they showed and I like kind of brought me back way to get you in it works it works for sure but I'm just like oh god I just pray that he was not going through similar stuff of what I was going through and um maybe they're trying
Starting point is 00:08:08 to edit it that way but yeah because that just that that was tough but um yeah I see some similarities for sure between between showing myself some like a switcherooie type thought I'm Who would do that? I don't know. Why would you ever do that? A horrible decision. Idiot. You're not alone.
Starting point is 00:08:31 We all know you're not alone. You probably did it in most mild way, actually. Okay. So another headline of Nix. So Caitlin Bristow, she posted some, well, she actually had a conversation on her podcast. Okay. With Stasi Schroeder a couple weeks ago. And she was saying that like at the end of
Starting point is 00:08:49 relationship. We don't know what relationship it was. It could have been a decade ago, but she said she was like so out of touch with herself sexually that she felt like asexual. And this made huge headlines. And Ben and I were like, is it really? Or is she just like not feeling the guy anymore, right? And eventually Caitlin learned that she just wasn't feeling the guy anymore. But here's the headline for this week that is kind of juicy. So Jason posted a picture on Instagram. And it was really just because, you know, he was a good, it was a good picture of him. He was shirtless, looking great, really tan. I've always loved, I respect the hell out of Jason.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Like, I always thought like I was like the least, I was probably the least in shape bachelor that's ever been on the show. Like, I just never had like the scope. You could talk to Ben because he would say the exact same thing about himself. You guys both like great. Maybe you didn't have six packs, but like you still look great. The definition wasn't quite there. But I love like Jason.
Starting point is 00:09:47 You see the guy and he does it so modestly. like guys shredded like a Spartan god and you just you almost forget about it I just I respect that you know because he doesn't like really show it off a lot he doesn't like flaunt that because like he kind of flaunts his brain more and his business savvy and just being like a stand-up guy so anyway he captions the the photo little summer throwback on this cold winter Wednesday a changing of seasons can't come soon enough you know he wanted to post a hot pick of himself all good and then he um and then Nick writes underneath it, nothing asexual about this. Oh, God. And then Caitlin retaliates by saying like on Instagram, good morning or like, hello Hawaii to everybody except those who use like use my words for clicks.
Starting point is 00:10:39 I'm, I'm, oh no. Aloha to everyone except for people who make fun of my sexuality for likes. Having a libido expert on my pod soon. Okay. All right. What's your take? Sassiness? So wait, so let me follow this. So what?
Starting point is 00:10:55 So Caitlin. It's really between Caitlin and Nick now. It's Kate. So it had nothing to do with Caitlin and Stasi. Stasi was saying she was just over the relationship and like sexually it kind of like fizzled out. Well, no. It was Caitlin who was saying that it was like, she, Oh, she was the one.
Starting point is 00:11:11 She was just talking. She was just talking. Stasi's not part of the equation. Okay. Yeah. You know, it's like, this is not the best thing to admit, but I really haven't ever been in a long enough relationship. And maybe it's just not possible for me. I think I, you know, I'm a passionate person, as I would put it, right? Like, I have never gotten to a point in a relationship where I've kind of like lost that desire for, not that you lose a desire for a partner, but where it kind of like really settles down and it's not as powerful maybe as it once was. So Kate, again, so just so I follow it. Caitlin is acting like, She had lost it with Jason before the end of the relationship. We don't know it was Jason. Don't put any words in her mouth.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Oh, we don't know with Jason. It could have been anyone, but Nick is all the sudden, like, making it seem like it was directed towards Jason. Towards Jason. I just don't get the, I've never been the kind of like the low blow type person. Why do you? Like, at that, the relationship, I don't know how long they've been broken up now for, but just, I'm all about six months. That's it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Okay. I don't know. I've always been someone, you try to move on. Like I would personally never, listen, I think Caitlin's probably benefiting from some clicks as well by coming out. And she knows that she's doing. So I think it's all kind of like strategic in a way. I don't think one person or one side is only to blame. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:31 That's not my take. It's my take is Nick and Caitlin, even though they have been very cordial with each other in the past. They still got to throw fire at each other eight years after that season. They just can't let it go, huh? But really, it's, Nick was the instigator here, for sure, for sure. And another Nick headline will just breeze whatever this one. He is doing a new show with Patty Stanger, a matchmaking series on CW. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:00 So I got to pick his brain about how this is going to go because I was on Patty Stinger's like celebrity millionaire matchmaker. And it was quite the experience. I will say it was not a positive one. So I can't wait to hear. When did you do that? years ago. It was before my second season of Paradise. Gotcha. So I've been on two shows. Yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes,
Starting point is 00:13:41 my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. now he's insisting we get to know each other but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale,
Starting point is 00:14:13 listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...
Starting point is 00:14:35 Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeart Radio app. Search emergency intercom and listen now. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this. Attention passengers.
Starting point is 00:14:54 The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone to land this plane. Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this, do this, pull that, turn this. It's just, I can do it my eyes close. I'm Mani. I'm Noah. This is Devin.
Starting point is 00:15:16 And on our new show, No Such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence. Those who lack expertise lack the expertise they need to recognize that they lack expertise. And then, as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the run right. I'm looking at this thing. Listen to No Such Thing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you use.
Starting point is 00:15:45 your podcasts. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aimed to provide a shock of prison life,
Starting point is 00:16:18 emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Let's throw out two headlines of our own right now. I just announced today on Amazon Live that our second child, who is due in July, is a boy.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And that means we'll be having two, we'll have two boys. And we are overwhelmed as a thought. But I know that you and your brother, you know, you're the two boys for your mom. Yeah, yeah. What advice, what I want to know is how can I make these brothers as close as possible. Because you're really tight with your brother, right? Extremely close, yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:26 And I love that and I want that. Like, do you guys talk on the phone regularly like multiple times a week? Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. That's what I want. Well, first off, congrats. That's awesome news. Thank you. Super, super happy for you guys.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Maybe you'll have some Patriots players in the making and make Jared very happy. Dawson has quite the arm. I'm not just saying that because I'm his mom. It's impressive. Okay, get him started young. No, that's super exciting. Did you guys do a reveal, like a special baby reveal? Well, we got the text from my midwife.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Like, I have the gender, like, do you want it? And we were in Disney World, and my sister was there. And she's like, well, just do something because the first time we didn't. I didn't want any sort of gender reveal. So this time, we literally just had the hotel make cupcakes. and they're you know we've been into it as classic you're on you're on space mountain we're having a boy let's go we were going to do something at like the castle but then it was statistically to do that yeah no i i yeah i appreciate those words i've been extremely close to my
Starting point is 00:18:31 brother is you know one of my most treasured relationships that i have um in life we just we grew up literally just doing everything together and And, you know, from a very early age, we were just, we, I think my mom kind of just got lucky with us too, but we just got along well. We were, we were best friends. It was almost to the point where my brother would sometimes get annoyed because I'd always want to hang out with him and his friends. And then he sometimes thought that I was stealing his friends and would like try to get some
Starting point is 00:19:01 space. My sister and I always shared friends, like all our best friends were together. Okay. Yeah, I think my brother would say different. He would say that I like was taking his friends away, but I just. I just enjoyed hanging out with him and his friends. And, yeah, I mean, we literally had that dynamic, though, all the way through. Like, I'm probably later than most people.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Like, I lived there at home until I was 29, right? So not saying that, you know, you guys are going to have them at home until you're 29. But it was just, yeah, a really just organic, just great relationship. Like I said, we were just always, always together. You know, my dad, he would be gone a lot on trips for work. And so was my mom and the two of us and my grandmother when she lived with us. and we never felt like true like we never felt like there was ever any favorites like we'd always you know hassle our mom like you know oh i'm your favorite like it was never any of that like
Starting point is 00:19:53 there was just equal love shown both ways um a lot of just great family trips uh growing up like my parents did a really good job of like just making really cool core memories um especially like in the whole flying theme with you know airplanes and the whole career aspect um i actually just wrote an article for Alpa Airline Pilots Association. They had a, they're doing a little segment on family and aviation and why that means so much to my family. And it was really cool just to go back down in memory lane and just write about a lot of stories of my brother and I as little kids, you know, going on trips with my dad or going in the cockpit and, you know, just had me really cool. It's really cool that my brother and I, we both followed in the same footsteps of my dad, right?
Starting point is 00:20:34 So we're both pilots. And so we, you know, try to find similar passions to just promote with them growing up and yeah you're going to see i think that i mean you know this every every sibling has their strengths and their and their weaknesses and it was kind of cool for my brother and i like we always helped each other in each other's weaknesses and all the way up until like like i literally it was the reason that my brother got into UCLA like i wrote his his college like admission letter because he my brother's always been pretty sure i get the same with my sister really okay i've been the better writer but she has plenty of other strengths yeah now my brother kicked my ass like he applied mathematics major at UCLA and I've always been more creative in English side and all that and so like he'd help me out
Starting point is 00:21:22 with stuff you know being younger than me in high school and this guy you know this kid was helping with math problems and all that so um yeah I don't I'm excited it the the bond between between two really really close brothers is again I'm sure it's very similar with sisters but it's just it's one of most beautiful gifts in life that I have ever been able to receive and I cherish it so much. And I really hope that you guys experience that with your sons. Thank you. Yeah. Not to stereotype, but I do feel like I kind of wanted maybe like two of the same sex just
Starting point is 00:21:52 because that in my experience seems to be like the closer bonds, the sibling bonds. Sure. Yeah. I get that. I think it would be cool, too, to have, I've always thought be awesome to have twins. I'm like, I'm a twins guy. you see i would be a twins person if it was the first then i would be like okay i'm done i never have to be pregnant again that would be awesome but if you have twins on the second then that would be like
Starting point is 00:22:16 hey that's a lot what's what's your age gap between the two of you or three and a half years which i think is a great great gap they'll be two and a half years i'm two and a half years that's but that like span is it's a good one all right well then i'm going to make you have a headline now this Ellie Smith girl on your Instagram who you are part of her new music video girlfriend or just a friend no Ellie was single put it out there
Starting point is 00:22:46 not a girlfriend Ellie was my very first friend in New York City when I moved to New York she her mom and her mom and my mom they grew up together and so I was connected with her because I didn't know anybody moving out to New York so she was my very first friend I remember Dustin had been out visiting, and Ellie, we were all out getting drinks.
Starting point is 00:23:07 We'd come back. We're hanging out in my apartment, just having some drinks. There's no furniture in the apartment. She's an incredibly talented singer. Just wait until you guys hear this music video. I'm really, really stoked for her because she's coming out with her first album. She's done Broadway. She's done a ton of stuff, but just one of the most beautiful voices I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:23:24 So, yeah, first friend in New York, we stayed very close. And she asked me to be in her music video with her. And I was like, never done a music video. And it's a romantic music video. That's why people are buzzing on Instagram when you release the pictures. It is romantic. It's actually, there's a twist in the song. It's kind of, it's about a, it's the whole song, I think she said she wrote it in like
Starting point is 00:23:47 45 minutes, but it was inspired by a breakup. And so it's shown all the good stuff and the good parts of the relationship, but then there's twists in there and ultimately ends, you know, it's kind of on empowering her and all the strength that she feels moving off from that relationship. and the love that she has for herself. But yeah, it was fun to film. It was very fun to film. Nice.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And look at you up, you know, on musical. You were also on stage at the, was it, was it the beautiful? Was it beautiful? A beautiful noise, the Neil Diamond musical. Yeah, that you guys haven't seen it. No, I haven't seen it. My mom loves Neil Diamond, so eventually we'll have to go see it in a big Broadway girl. I'm seeing Sweetie Todd next week.
Starting point is 00:24:27 And I am so excited, yes. Oh, with Sutton Foster? Sudden Foster. Yes, that's going to be incredible. I know. I'm so excited. So, all right. Well, we have time for one more headline.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And Peter, I got to know your take on this. Jesse Palmer is changing up the bachelor lingo to over 20 years in. So this week, not only it was actually the week. It was like a week or a half ago. Instead of saying take a moment and say your goodbyes, he said, take as much time as you need. And when you're ready, say your goodbyes. Now, his explanation for this was that he was looking at Edwina and Allison, knowing that they were the girls leaving.
Starting point is 00:25:12 And he just said that there was so much tension and emotion on their faces that he wanted to offer them the courtesy to take as much time as they needed. I like that. I have no problems with that. I actually, I think I saw an excerpt of that. Was he doing like a funny thing in the pool where he was going over different lines? He did another one. That's another part of this article.
Starting point is 00:25:32 It says that he also said, why do we even say this is the final rose tonight? Because it's so obvious, there's just one rose left on the table. So is that the next line he's going to ask? Look it. I like this. I am about this. Jesse taking, you know, he's now been the host for a couple seasons. So he feels like he has the seniority now and the experience as a host to, you know, give his own personal take.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I think that only helps the show. I hope he continues to kind of do stuff. And maybe it almost, you know, inspires the show itself, whether it's, you know, in production type themes or a way they film the show to switch it up. I don't, I don't think change is, you know, is bad. Obviously, it's always going to follow the same format of what the show has always been. But yeah, I'm all about kind of personalizing it a little bit. And I've been, I've been a Jesse fan ever since he became the host. I think he's been, he was probably the perfect choice in that moment when you had to make a, you know, a quick decision.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And so, yeah, I support that. Those lines truly were Harrison's lines. If Harrison changed them up, then we'd all be like, where's our familiarity? But with Jesse changing him up, it's like, okay, well, you weren't the person that, quote, came up with it. So it's not as big of a deal. All right. Well, thank you so much, Peter, for joining us. This was really fun.
Starting point is 00:26:52 And we are going to do a whole other episode with you. And it's all about your experience on the traitors. So stay tuned for that. He's a big hit on the show, y'all. Until that time, I've been Ashley. I've been Peter. See ya. Bye. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast on IHartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.
Starting point is 00:27:14 My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not a problem. podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness
Starting point is 00:28:08 psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most
Starting point is 00:28:24 brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice. he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Listen to shock incarceration on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Jenna Lopez, and in the new season of the Overcomfit Podcast, I'm even more honest, more vulnerable, and more real than ever. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life?
Starting point is 00:28:58 Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? Join me for conversations about healing and growth. All from one of my favorite spaces, The Kitchen. Listen to the new season of the Overcomber podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast.

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