The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - What I Wish I Knew Before I Went Through Rush

Episode Date: December 20, 2025

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So we're going to be giving you all the stories, all of us went. All of us were in different sororities at different schools and had different rush experiences, but we all have a lot of advice to give you for when you're going through Rush. Especially because some people are going through Rush this semester. true, which I'm not sure I could do that in Colorado. Heels in the snow, no thank you. Yeah. I could never. I went to UCLA and the, you know, the latest round, it was probably 50 degrees out. And I remember being cold waiting outside. Yeah. But it was also in September because we do first semester. Do you guys all do first semester rush? Mine's like before school starts. What is your guys is? Mine is after. It's over the three day weekend. Yeah, mine was always in August and it's insanely hot in Texas. It's so hot. Did you have to go to school early for? I know they do that. U.T. Yes. Which I actually really liked. But I think it's really,

everyone has a different experience doing it like different ways. And people like it for different reasons. You know, like I loved it because like you don't know anyone. So there's no one like, like you're not rushing what your friends are rushing. Like you're going whatever you really feel like is your fit, which I feel like is nice. Because like I feel like if I was second semester, then I would just want to go the sorority my friends were and it wouldn't be as much my choice. I'm torn on this because I feel like it benefits, you know, I went to a huge state school. Like I went to UCLA and I was from Chicago and I knew nobody at my school. And so I feel like I didn't have a leg up, you know, to knowing anyone coming in.

And I felt like it gave me a really fair shot that it just, it started right when school started. and like I nobody knew anyone and nobody like really had a leg up just going into rush but I also think USC the other school like big school in LA they did it second semester and they were like I feel like the girls in sororities at USC were like had so many different friends across sororities because they did it second semester and so they were able to have like you know your first semester friends but then I'll end up in different sororities totally that's cool since first semester all my friends are DG except for like your dorm friends right totally are across different sororities yeah but yeah I mean it kind of gave you friends immediately rushing first semester true so pros and cons yeah

yeah it's also interesting how at different schools I feel like some schools it's like all sorority girls are friends with girls in different sororities and at some schools it's like you only hang out with the girls and your sorority which I've heard is a case like you dub like they like don't really but then you know everyone tells different things. But I remember hearing that once and I was like, that's so interesting because at my school, everyone was like meshed with girls in different sororities.

Yeah. Yeah. So I wonder if that has something to do with the first versus second semester recruitment. Probably. Anyways, we're here to share a couple of things that we all wished, we knew before going into Rush.

And something that I didn't know, but to get into the sorority I was at, at CU Boulder, was that you did have to have a letter of rec. You did. Yes. Because at UCLA, they, it was just like those did not matter at all. You, it didn't matter who wrote it, but if you didn't have one, you weren't.

Yeah. Yeah. Like you were passed up on. Really? Yeah. So it could be like your, your mom's best friend's cousin's daughter. Yeah. Anyone that was in the sorority beforehand at any point, if you knew them well or not, if they wrote you a letter of rec, then you made it past the first round.

If you didn't, then you didn't. I don't know if that's how it was at my school. I do remember, like, I feel like I could be wrong about this, but I feel like it was more like if someone was in the sorority at your school. It mattered more than like if it was just like a random person from a different school that was in your sorority. To me, that's how I perceived it. But I could be wrong there.

But I feel like it would mostly matter if it was like an older girl who had graduated before. Then it means more. Yeah. Yeah. It definitely helps if you knew someone in the direct sorority or someone that was of that affiliate sorority but I think just like maybe my sorority had older rules okay so we had letters of rec didn't mean anything but we had a different thing that I'm really wondering if I feel like nobody knows about this when you're going through rush but then you see it on the other

side and it's kind of wild I don't know if you guys have this but and I'm kind of giving a lot away here but during work week, we would have a presentation of, I don't even know if I'm supposed to say this, but here goes. During work week, we would have a presentation that girls already in our sorority would be put up a slideshow of people from their hometown that knew that they were coming through rush and that they really wanted to vouch for.

And it would be like a picture of them from their Instagram and fun facts. And this is why she would be great in our store. sorority and these are her amazing traits and or on the other end it would be like this girl screwed up dated my brother and cheated on him and we cannot let her in I know she's coming in so I think that's where knowing someone really plays a part because they can really vouch for you and then you can do something called hometown voting where you can give them either the highest rating or the lowest rating but you couldn't give anything in between if you were in

hometown vote someone. Do you guys think it's important to know someone in the sorority? Do you think you really need to in order to get brought back? Well, my sorority's rules for voting was it's automatically a no. So essentially you were supposed to be dishing out nose unless the person wowed you and you thought they deserved a yes. Oh, it was like all or nothing? All or nothing. And that's why it was helpful to know someone in a sorority so that they could tell everyone. But then, And again, it brings back the rule of you can't vote for someone unless you bump them. Unless you talk to them. So then you had to keep making sure that people were getting bumped so they could get the appropriate votes. Wow. Because ours was a, what were your, so that was your rating scale.

Ours was between, I think, one and five or one and four. And the highest one, either four or five meant, okay, this girl, I want her to be my little. Like, not just I want her to be in our sorority. I want her to be my little. best friend. Three was like, I want her to be in the sorority. And then one was no. Two was, it was very important, like, what each level meant. Did you guys do a lot of recruiting on the other side? Like, did you do a lot of years of, like, recruiting in your sorority? Because you know how some people, like, don't really want to do it and only do it one year when they're forced to? Well, one of them I was abroad, but I did two. I did two of them. Yeah.

you mean in terms of like the actual recruiting process we were involved all four years like fully involved okay had to be which was nice but then again like honestly whoever was on standards that year took full control over who was on the hometowns list who was on the captain's list what is captains captain's list did you guys not have that no i've never even heard of that your i have your your sounds pretty common at the road captain's list is pretty crazy. So that means that you were perfect on paper, meaning that you had the grades,

you had the letters of Rex. Wait, wait. Sorry. You're talking captains list are P&Ms or PNMs. On the captain's list that are perfect on paper with grades because we had to have a certain GPA and it was a high GPA. Really?

That a lot of the younger girls I knew couldn't get in from high school because of their GPA. Can you name what the GPA was? Did it change every year? Probably. I think it was a three four. I feel like it would change based on like at my school

because every year the GPA would go up of how hard it was to get in. So I feel like it would go up. Yeah, it went up continuously. And I do know that like one of the coolest girls in our sorority when I was a freshman, she got suspended for a semester because her grades dropped below.

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because our sorority, too, like, had the best GPA on the row. And I would argue that we were some of, like, the best girls and just really cool, awesome people. And we always had the highest GPA in the row. And it was usually a 375 or 3.8. And I feel like people think that sorority girls are dumb. No. Not true.

Not true. You're actually talking to a girl who was on the scholars list. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Talking to a scholar. I think I was too. You're talking to a scholar, not only for the school, but the sorority. One or two semesters.

Maybe. One or two? Yeah. Pretty insane. I think I was on the low end of the GPA. I think I was the one on the brisk. Well, you went to a UC. Yeah.

Miss E over here. Okay. I have another subject to bring up. Okay. What about, this isn't necessarily something I didn't know, but what do you guys, like, what went on in your head about, like, your social media? Because I feel like we're told so many things for going into recruitment like not being able to follow girls in the sorority

or you should be following girls in the sorority or what you have posted like taking down anything of swimsuits, alcohol. Like did you guys really clean up your social media before you went through recruitment? That's a good question. I didn't feel the need to clean mine up. I didn't post anything with alcohol

on beforehand because that's kind of inappropriate in my eyes anyways, being a high schooler. Yeah. In terms of like bathing suit stuff, I would post them but it wasn't anything too crazy. following like people preference if I was the older girl being followed by younger girls I would just see that as like they're just trying to get a gauge on what's going on

and I would just play it cooler on the other end of just like not following people you can follow the sorority Instagrams but like you don't need to heavily stalk everyone like I don't there's no for my sorority there was no offline chat of like we were not allowed to talk to P&Ms and we weren't allowed to talk to active members before or during the recruitment process. And so I don't think that there was a point on our end to kind of like involve social media with that. Yeah, I will say that I do think because, I mean,

especially just going to a really big school, we were talking to so many girls. And I do think that social media matters. I think what your Instagram and that it's like a representation of you, like if you like to sing and you have a video on there, I think that's cool. I completely agree. But if it's just like partying and I think

your Instagram, your profile actually does matter because that's what, not necessarily like that girls are scoping you out beforehand. I think that, at least that wasn't the case with us, but I think that when you're trying to remember girl, oh, did I like her? Did I not? What was our conversation about? And then you go in their Instagram. There's nothing. I mean, I guess you're on private. Some people are because some people are told that they should go on private beforehand because then if a girl follows you, that means something. If not, they can stalk you anytime. I don't remember what I did. but then there's also so many girls I remember that I loved and they followed me even though they're not allowed to and I was and then I was like oh my goodness they're going to go my sorority and

then they didn't and so I'm like why did you follow me though we have like a silent day it's like the day before so our last day of recruitment I want to say is Friday then Saturday is like no contact like nothing like really strict like basically like stay in your house like okay and I think partying yeah no texting anyone even if it's like your friend it's really strict and then Sunday's bid day. So I remember on that no contact day, like the one day it's really strict on texting or following or anything. I had girls following me and they didn't even go my sorority. So I'm like, that's so confusing. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to say that that whole like no contact, no following thing. Take that seriously because I agree. I agree. And then I did,

I contacted someone because I was so torn between what I was going to preff and I didn't end up getting that sorority. I'm happy. I'm so happy I ended up in the sorority that I did. But I think that and then no partying especially if it's the first week of school guys like relax and i mean i did like i partied the first week of school before saying that to you before recruitment and i went to like because i only people i knew at my school were on the soccer team and they invited me to the soccer party and i was like yeah i'm going to that and i should not have gone to that i was the biggest rule follower like it wasn't crazy i thought i was going to get dropped for like the smallest things and And then I posted a TikTok, my roommate posted a TikTok about us going out, and it went viral.

Oh, my God. It got like three million views. See, I could have never. I would have never let her post it. I would have never gone. And everyone would pop in, like, you're going to have to post the TikTok. Oh, my God. Yeah.

Should we add it onto the dirty rush feed? Wait, it's actually so good. It's a video of me in my tiny dorm room doing my blowout. And we all know, I love my blowouts. I also know of you. room. I'm just kidding. Oh, yeah, you do.

And she took a video of me doing my hair into the Home Depot song. You know the song that's like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. That's pretty good. And it's me doing my hair. And it went crazy viral. And then everyone during rush was like, wait, are you the TikTok hair girl? Oh, my God. See, and this is a reason, though, that I love that my school does it before.

school starts that'd be hard when school starts you're so excited about everything well she literally put on the video my roommate getting ready for a night out in westwood the night before rush oh my god no to your point it was stupid like the girls that are rushing you the older girls have been through rush themselves and so they're going to treat you the way that they were rushed if not worse girls in authoritative positions yeah are going to keep those positions and if they see you out Like, I was strict. There's no benefit of the doubt. Like, if you see a younger girl partying, it's like, get your bleep together.

Yeah, like, you're not supposed to party. We're not partying because we're training how to rush you. So true. And so you better not be partying. I agree. Yeah, it's so true. Like, no one wants to be, like, dry that week, but everyone is. And then, yeah, and they see younger people get, yeah, you're like, what you do.

Yeah. Another thing that I realized after rushing was that you're not necessarily dropped from a sorority based on that they didn't like you a lot of it has to do with they know that you're going to go another house and they're giving the spot to someone else you could think that like you had an amazing conversation with someone but they just know that you're not going to choose this sorority in the end and so they're going to go with another girl that they would rather have okay well here's what I'm going to say is I think this is super specific to the school because we weren't able to like hand pick who gets it's all about scores that everyone gave.

So we weren't like, oh, they're probably going to go to them. I'm going to give them a lower score. You just gave them a score based off of their, you know, your experience with them. And then it was all about the cumulative, you know, score that they had. And if they chose you again. It's such an interesting point, though, because what you brought up, Emma, because like then what we were talking about earlier with if knowing someone helps, then it also can not help you. Because if you're best friends with a girl in one sorority and you're trying to get into another, but they know that's your best friend, sister,

cousin, whatever, then maybe they don't take you because they're like, we don't have a shot with her, even though a lot of girls are always open. Yeah. Some girls want to do something different than their best friend, sister, whatever. So like, it's really an interesting conversation of does it help you or hurt you? And I feel like it differs. Yeah. I'm investigative journalist Melissa Jeltson. My new podcast, What Happened in Nashville, tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together in the chaos that followed. We have some breaking news to tell you about.

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offering invaluable insight into the current economy and also today's politics. Get the Big Short now at Pushkin.fm. slash audiobooks, or wherever audiobooks are sold. Emma, for your school, for at Boulder, was it about cumulative score or someone, but you're kind of talking about like you could pick and choose kind of who was coming in when it came to that final round? Like, we're going to give her a bit or not versus us. It was just about who were the top girls based off their score at the top of our list? Well, I mean, it was also the amount of people that we were allowed.

to take back each day. And so then it came down to they didn't. These people all got great scores, but we had so many great scores. So then there was lots of conversations. We had a lot of conversations with like our standards of the sorority and the recruitment chairs in terms of like

what of these great girls do we get to pick? And then you know when it comes down to Prath, then it's like you put all your best eggs in one bass, and then you don't even know if everyone's going to pick you. Yeah. I will say that my sorority for the longest time had a 99% retention rate. That's awesome. Pretty great.

You guys were prepping hard. Were people crying? Be honest. Like, did people cry during prep? I would like to say I was a great prepper. People cried during our preff. We have one of the most insane prefs. I bawled my eyes out, my senior and junior year preff because we make it very emotional

sisterhood. I got to speak my senior year. It was so special. I did too. Twins. Yay. Yeah, that was special. I always sang during press.

Are you serious? You're a little musical girl. Well, I can sing. I would sing. Can you sing for us? Easton's listening. I can't even remember. We sang, we sang, we sang, guys, we sing Acapella, home.

You know, my mumford and son. Yeah. Let me come home. You're so good. Home is whenever I'm with you. Oh my God. Are you serious right now? Wait, you're so.

I'm going to sing it if I life depended on it. Oh, my God. You are one of many talents. Okay. You have one of many talents. You are. Blowouts included. You have.

Whatever. Sorty girls are smart. Swarty girls can do everything. Wait, wait, I have another tip on the Instagram thing. Okay. You need to follow, this is something that I think is important. You need to follow every sorority at your school. Even if you don't care what some of the sororities are doing,

you have to follow every, that was something I would look for. I'm like, are they just following the top ones or are they following everyone? To second this, do not talk S about other sororities. Because true, other people are around you. Other people are willing to tattle. They will rat you out. They will rot you out. The rogams are smarties.

The rogams are also in sororities. And if they hear girls talking about their sorority or other sororities, it gets reported to pan out. And then you get dropped immediately. And if you think it's just like you're disappointed or you don't want to go see a house at my school, it was required that you visited every single house on the first day and every single house that brought you back. And even if you didn't want to go. Oh, agreed. Yeah.

If you didn't show up for a round. because you were like, I'm not going to be this. And if you, if you were, wait, we've had a conversation. We've had a episode about this called throwing around. If you threw around or purposefully did not show up to one, you were dropped from recruitment entirely. Yeah, no, that was, yeah. Ours was the same.

I don't know why I reacted like that. Because first I was like, oh my gosh, that's so many. But then I was like, wait, we all did that. Yeah. I was trying to eat her Kit Kat. I actually have like another topic. Okay. What?

I didn't know how to gauge like going into recruitment was like how to really know what sorority was your best fit. And I'm curious what you guys were looking for. Like were you like hoping to connect with one girl specifically because I think I've definitely heard that a lot of people will connect really well with an older girl. And then they go that sorority because of it. They have an insane bond. And then they're freshmen and the older girl's a senior. And it's like I didn't like like like connect with the girls like that in my own PC. But I connected with the senior that's now graduating. So I think it's really. hard to know, like, exactly how to know what's your right fit. So I'm curious, like, how,

you, how you guys knew? So my sorority, when we were going through recruitment, there was a lot of talk in just have trust in the process in terms of, like, if an older girl's recruiting you and you don't think you're going to get along with the PC, perhaps, or not even get along, but just, like, you're not friendly with them. Just trust that the older girls are recruiting the younger girls that think we all have the same mind. and have the same interests, like, it's all one collective group of girls that kind of have similar likes and dislikes and values for the most part. Yeah, I think that whichever you feel like aligns with your values the most. And you, like, I remember I was at Preth and I was,

there was one sorority where I was like, these girls actually seem really cool. And they actually seem like they genuinely really like each other. And the other one, I was like, this seems like a little bit of BS that I think they're all like these are just crocodile tears or whatever I just think like trust your gut on it but also I do think that if there are girls in the sorority if you feel like you know you're really interested in one subject or interested in one area or whatever and you can see that kind of represented within the sorority I do think that's important like if if you know you feel like the girls are pursuing their own things or they're all seem really smart or really academically inclined.

Like, I think that's important, too. But I have another, okay. Well, to finish that off, I have this one-liner that my big told me when she was prepping me, which then I passed on to my little. I'm really curious if I was prepping her. And it was pick a house where you feel comfortable going number two in. It's not what I was. It was a lot less cheesy than I thought you were going to say.

Yeah. Like if you can like picture like a house where you can like sit on the toilet and poop. Oh my goodness. And like people are around you, pick that house. And I was like, we got the picture the first time. That was the last thing I was expecting you to say. Shelby was like, pick a house. Pick a home, not a house.

Yeah, mine's a lot cheeser than that. But I used to every. Tell me, my best friend from high school prepped me. and I remember she was like, I was torn. Even though my best friend was in the house, I was torn. And I remember she was like, you need to look around at the girls in line. And like the girls you're talking to before entering and exing the house. And like, do you like see yourself being in a PC with them?

She's like, at the end of the day, this is what I brought up earlier. You can talk to all these older girls and they can be amazing. But it's going to be the girls in your PC that are your best friends. And I remember her being like, you need to like look like look around this room right now. like, do you see yourself being in a PC with the girls in this room? And I remember that was a big game changer for me. Okay, because I do think this is a really good point. And this leads me to my next question because it is all about the PC.

I know we can trust the older girls, bridesmaids, like you really have to think of them. The girls are to live in the house with. And I do think that like sororities fluctuate based off PC. The overall vibe tends to be consistent. But like, I do think it matters your PC. And so here's my question to you guys, especially. since we all rushed, like right when we got to school or even before, if you made friends you know, prior to rush or during rush, do you think it's a good idea to go a sorority

just because, not just because, but say you're torn and you have more friends that you know or girls that you know that you get along with going one sorority. Should you go that sorority? Well, I can't answer that because my roommate and my best friend at the time best friend now not best friend at the moment because we just met each other we wouldn't tell each other which house is because we really liked each other so much and so we were hoping that we would end up in the same sorority based on our interests and based on the people that we wanted to surround ourselves with did you and we did wow so that's and that's

such a sign yeah so I feel like you know if you make the wrong decision you need go a that none of your friends are in. Who cares? It happens to people. You can still be their best friend. Yeah. But also just go with your gut and like you're going to have a great time no matter what. Sometimes people like having their sorority be something kind of separate than their friend group. And it's like where they get involved in leadership and certain other aspects. And it's kind of like doesn't always have to be your entire friend group and your sorority. Also because it's fun to bring your friends as dates. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. My best friend from college was my freshman year roommate. and we went different sororities.

We actually, but me and all my room, it's prepped the same sorority, but we all ended up in different ones. Oh, that's crazy. Because what she did the one that she, like, that we all preffed, and then I ended up in the one that I was like supposed to end up in, but we had all kind of agreed that we are,

so sometimes, you know, fate takes over. Yeah. The sorority system takes over and might separate you. But I think, I think, I do think, I don't know, especially for everyone going into rush right now, you know, winter semester, I think if you know a group of girls or already have a group of girls that you're friends with and you are all, I don't know, interested in the same sorority, I don't think it's a bad thing for you to all go that same sorority. No, I don't either. I honestly would give the advice of what Emma did and I would not tall each other. Yeah, yeah.

That's what I would want to do if I was going into second semester rush, which I've never done before, but I would want to not tell each other because I would hope that we'd all end up in the same sorority. Yeah, and kind of, it works out. And they're still going to be your friends if they go a different sorority. So you should never feel like pressure to all go the same sorority. Yeah. They'll still be your best friends.

Yeah. It's true. I think the whole truth of everything, though, is like nothing, none of it is that deep. It's not. being in a sorority is really fun but also and getting involved as much as you want or whatever and make the best friends you can but also getting having friends in different sororities or not in any sororities at all it's also important too yeah I really do feel strongly that everyone ends up where they're supposed to be like yeah and I know that's easier for me to say and probably

you guys as people who probably had a good rush experience from what you guys are saying it sounds like um but it just like even when I feel like someone it's like sad because I know my sorority's dropping someone that I really liked it's like I know they're going to be happy where they're going next and they usually always are yeah so I do feel like it's like there's a lot of people to meet too much pressure on yourself like just because you think you want one sorority like so many girls end up in a different sorority and they're like I can't even imagine what my life would be like if I was in that sorority like like because I love my life right now and the girls I met through my sorority

that maybe you didn't want it first. And I just do feel like everything happens for a reason in that process. Yeah. Also, I think my last parting piece of advice is that if you end up on bid day and you end up in the sorority that you didn't preff or didn't necessarily want, slap on a smile on your face. Agreed. And be happy of it because I still remember the girls that showed up to our bid day and did

not seem excited and like we're almost like shedding a tear because they wanted to be another house and you never forget that because that makes you feel so icky and i just just keep an open mind don't get just and if you end up in the sorority that you don't want there's a reason behind it and and and also it's really not that deep like you're going to make friends anywhere just just go in especially if you stay open and go in just with positivity that's what i would say yeah so for those rushing this January or February whenever second semester rush is going with a big smile and a positive attitude and you're going to kill it. Yeah. You are going to end up where you're supposed to be. Yeah. Sisters for life. Sisters for life. And that'll do it for dirty rush.

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