The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - What The Heck is A Divorce Coach?

Episode Date: May 7, 2025

Jennie Garth is explaining why you NEED a divorce coach!Divorce coach, Samantha Boss, is breaking down why a coach is vital in a high-conflict divorce, and why you should hire one BEFORE you hire an attorney! What does playing bingo have to do with getting divorced? Samantha will explain!  Email us at: [e-mail] or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

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prevent you from doing the things that you want to do, the things that you were meant to do. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to I Do Part 2. I'm one of your hosts, Jenny Garth. And today, I wanted to bring in a guest to talk about something that I've never even heard of before, you guys. She is a divorce coach and a certified divorce mediator. She has been at this for over 10 years.

I love her TikTok, and she is the co-host of her own podcast, Divorce, with Sam and Leah. I can't wait to talk with Samantha boss. Samantha, what the heck is a divorce coach? A game changer, a lifesaver, a financial saver. Well, okay. I mean, it's a little bit of like we're the catch of all trades. It just kind of depends on what your case needs. And what I'm finding my clients need, they're typically in a high conflict divorce,

meaning it's not going well, court is dragging out, co-parenting is not starting off on the right foot. And they're usually women that have been in some. type of toxic abusive relationship and they don't know themselves yet because they were not happy in the marriage and then they're going divorce, but there's this trial period where they're like segueing from the abuse to independence. And that's what all the decisions happen. Yeah. Even if you're not abused per se, like you've just been in this situation that wasn't serving you and you come out and you don't even know which way is up. So my only question really for this entire interview is why I weren't you there when I needed you?

Why wasn't I around when I was going? I mean, my divorce lasted forever. That's what everybody says when they meet me and they catch the vibe and they know what services I can offer. And it's like, where were you, where were you? I found you too late. Where were you two years ago? You know, I wasn't on your feed yet. Now I am.

I want to know what is it specifically that you do here. Well, my specialty and my bread and butter, which I could sit on stage and talk for hours about is parenting plans because that's where mine went wrong. parenting plan, you know, customizing them, making sure they're detailed, making sure they're protecting you and not, you know, leaving a bunch of gray area for a high conflict personality to take over you, getting your parenting plan all the way from diapers to diploma. So I customize parenting plans for people because when you, again, you're in that middle phase. You were married and you want to be single parent, but you're in this phase of decision making

and you just don't know. You know, if you're divorcing with kids that are two, three, five, seven years old, you're raising kids for the first time. you don't know what's ahead even in a good situation, let alone, you know, a situation where you're not getting along with your co-parent now. So I customize those parenting plans. I get you wherever you're at with your kids, whatever age, the youngest is. And I get you all the way to high school. And I cover everything that you can think of from education, extracurricular, religion, and medical, and everything in between. And we cover it all. You sound like an expert. I'm going to

really love this conversation. I want to know, though, about your journey because, you know, there's Oh, yeah. There's nothing I love more than when you work with someone who has actually walked the same path that you've walked. Yeah. And you were in a high conflict divorce situation and ended up being, taking a lot of years probably off of your life and a lot of money out of your account. Yeah. And so as I was going through that, I was highly educated. I came from a good family. I was a first person to get divorced. And so there was a lot of shame and guilt of like, why couldn't I make this work? So I went into it acting like I was fine. So I hired a really good attorney.

I was fine. I had a good attorney. So I thought, you know, and as I was going through this process, because it was taking so long, people, friends and family started asking me questions as they went through a divorce. And I kept on teaching because I was an educator at the time. And I went through my divorce, took about four years. And we were in court another four years after that over petty stuff that we just, you know,

couldn't help ourselves. We loved the courtroom. And as I was going through that and helping friends and family, I realized like my true passion was correcting my mistake. I felt joy when I helped people. I felt like, okay, don't do that because that's what I did. You know, don't answer it that way because that's what I did. And it was a lot of healing in that. And then when I met my now husband, Jared, he was like, why don't you quit teaching kids and teach adults about divorce? And at first, I was like, you are absolutely insane. Like, who would pay me to help them, you know? And he's like, people call you every day. Like people and you're doing it for

free. And there it went. And he just said, hey, why don't you become a mediator? So I did that at first, and I was getting couples all the time. And that was great. But it wasn't my story. My story, we didn't work out in mediation. We did not get along. So I wanted to help me, the former me. So then I just started helping one client at a time. And that's when it just clicked. It felt right. And education is my number one objective. I just want people to know what's ahead and to know what their options are. I just don't think you get told because you're talking to a high-priced attorney what your options are. So then that's how my business just evolved. I say that I've pivoted no less than nine times in my business because I'm trying to fit exactly what the former me needed.

And I needed support and I needed an education. And I needed somebody to say, do this instead of just winging it and hoping that it was going to work. You're getting me all fired up over here. I'm getting all angry because I didn't have anybody like you. And I was winging it. Nobody told me anything. I didn't have any kind of knowledge of what anybody was talking about as far as as like legal terms.

And I committed to things that I would not have committed to if I had known what I was committing to. Yeah. Well, I think people have a good heart. There's always one person in the divorce that has a good heart, has good intentions, and wants to co-parent and wants to work with the other. And we'll put the kids first. But when you're met with resistance and bitterness and anger,

angry and just hatred, the stuff that you agree to, you're like, okay, well, it'll get better and they'll come around and it'll work out, right? No. And that's what your lawyer sometimes tells you is, hey, don't worry about it, Jenny. When the ink dries, it's going to go smoother. 18 years, mine was a bumpy, twisty, windy road that never got smooth. And so I think that's where I think people's expectations, they go into it different and it stays different. And it's not going to go back healed for everybody the way you see on TV or you see your friends across the street held their neighbors and they still do Christmas together. And that's great for them. But that's not everybody. That's not everybody. I've been on both sides of that river. Yeah. Spent a lot of time

angry and mad and bitter and resentful and all the things. And I just reached a point in my personal life where I thought, oh my God, this is bringing me down. It's bringing me down mentally. It's bringing me down physically. I look in the mirror. I don't like what was who's looking back at me. And I needed to like take charge of like flipping the conversation in my own head so that I could come at it from a different way. Well, that was the only thing that's going to change. And I think anybody listening that's going through a high conflict co-parenting journey or even divorce, the only thing you have control over is your own journey. You don't have control over the other house or the other attorney or what your ex is doing or how they're parenting at their house. The

only thing you can control is how you interpret information, how you receive it, and how it comes out of you, you know, when you want to go back and talk and have a conversation. And I think too many of us are trying to control another house or have input about the other house or care too much. Oh, my God, I wasted so much time trying to like, no, because I mean, that's brutal. Like, you know, for me, I was everything, my kids were everything and three little girls. And I given up basically my life, my identity, and become so much of a mom to these three girls. And I loved every second of it. So I wasn't like sad about that at the time. But when they did leave, I was like, oh my God. I text him. I call him. I try to make sure that their safety is this

and they're eating that and that they know they have their bags, pack the proper way. Like you, and all I got was like click, hang up, no text back, stay out of it. You don't belong here. There's no place for you. Don't worry about us. I've got it covered. All the things. And all those things would just make me so much angrier.

Yeah. Until I did like come to terms with the fact that I, I don't get to have any say in my daughters once they leave my door. Yes. And that is a very, and I think that's why women stay too long, you know, or just anybody stays too long in marriage. But yeah, it's a big pill to swallow the first couple weekends. They're gone. seeing them show up somewhere and their hair's all a mess. They're in a weird outfit or you get the call from the school that, hey, you know, little

Susie doesn't have her lunch today. Like, what do you do? And you're just like, you know, like you gasp of embarrassment. And then you're like, I feel so bad for my child. And then you're like, get your shit together, you know, but you have no control on any of it. But I see a lot of people spend so much time and energy on obsessing about the other house and the care and the quality. and they lose themselves and they lose, and this is the thing that I did wrong for eight years.

I had no boundaries for eight years. I let him control my house for eight years and co-parenting. And until I learned boundaries, my relationship with my children was at risk because I was parenting how he wanted me to parent. And I was doing things that the court wanted me to do. And I was still in court. I was going to court all the time. And I was just not focused. I was tired.

I was anxious. I was broke. I was miserable. I was drinking too much. I did all the, I was smoking. cigarettes like a fiend as soon as they went to bed. I was doing it all wrong because I wasn't, I was so obsessed with the co-parenting journey and how shitty it was and the divorce process and what will be the thing that'll make the stop. I was obsessed with finding the thing that would get

us on the co-parenting journey. I didn't have radical acceptance that I was just in high conflict and it was going to stay that way forever. But at the eight year mark, I hit, you know, the absorbance of boundaries and self-love and self-care. And as soon as I did that, I really relationship with my children changed. We became unbreakable. My relationships with friends and family grew. And I didn't care less what he was doing. Like it was just like a switch went off. And I'm like, so free. Didn't you feel so free in that moment? I mean, it was just this this warm blanket that comes over. And then it almost became a laughable game when he would try to get to me. I'm like, good try. Like you're a pattern person. Like I knew this coming into, I teach my clients a bingo card,

especially if they're new to figuring out their ex, you should be doing a bingo card about every situation. So if you have a school function coming up and that makes you really nervous because you know your ex is going to bring five family members, maybe a new significant other, show up late, you know, bring everybody in their brother, have your kids show up late, you know,

not embarrass you with a teacher, write all those on a bingo card. Oh my God, I love this idea. Because then, you know, you sit with my mom, my mom and we would make a bingo card about court. You know, what's he going to wear? What elevators are you kind of? I mean, because he always did the same thing.

Where's he going to part? You know, what's he going to say? Who's he bringing with him? You know, things like that. And then at the end of it, I would, you know, we would exchange the bingo card. And I'd be like, oh, mom, like you got more than I did. And it was this way to bring humor to it. Yeah.

And expectations because then when he did something, you know, outlandish in court, I was like, damn, I had that one down. Yeah. It doesn't anger you as much as it does. Yes, because I expected it. It's a pattern. And anybody of high conflict, it's a pattern behavior. I mean, there's nothing new.

they're throwing at you guys. You just need to pay attention to the patterns and do bingo cards. And then it becomes less toxic for you. Like you'll react better. You'll stay emotionally regulated because it's an expectation versus a, I cannot believe that happened. Well, you know it's going to happen. Right. Right. So write it down. And then it becomes something to where you get to the point where you don't even have to do the car. Just you sit in the car and you're like, okay, this is how this could go. One of six ways. This is going to, you know, go this way. And then it becomes an expectation and a learn behavior and then your responses can get better and your peace stays there versus going into everything like hope it goes well it's probably not prepare for the probably not you know

have your body ready for it probably not going well yeah it's so you cannot be prepared when this is your first rodeo or even if it's your second rodeo but now you have more little clowns in the in your cart absolutely take care of like you don't you don't there's so much you don't know. And divorce is a business, I feel like. It is. I mean, it's a billion dollar industry every year. And I think just having a divorce coach, so many people like you said, you know, what is this? We're the calm. We're the educator. We're the handholder. You know, you have a very high priced attorney that every time you call costs you $300 to $600 depending on where you live. You know, and sometimes all you want to do is just

bitch on the phone and have somebody say, that's not right, Jenny. Let us do that for a way. more affordable cost to where you can get all that emotional stuff out and then we can give you bullet points. Okay, take this to your attorney. And now you've gotten through the story and your attorney really only has time for bullet points anyways. And they really only want bullet points. They don't want the story. You know, and so we can cut down costs, the education part alone, just educating you about the process, educating you about, you know, write a first refusal, holidays, vacation, how many vacation weeks should we have? And what does that look like? Can I take them back to back? Explaining all of those options.

that alone, just that educational part, takes away so much anxiety. You know, if you have mediation coming up and some attorneys just say, go into it with an open mind. Okay, but what are they going to ask me? Well, just let the mediator lead it. Okay, but what are they going to ask me? That's up to your mediator. Okay, that sends me into a tailspin, you know?

So letting us as divorce coaches educate you about here's all the things you should bring up even if the mediator doesn't. because at the end of the day, when the mediator's out of the picture, the lawyer's out of the picture, you're with your kids using a paperwork to guide you. And if that paperwork is horrible, you don't have good guidance. And then what do you have to do? You have to either A, call your ex, which you don't want to do and have to have those conversations, or B, call a very high-priced attorney back to have them work it out for you. So either way, you're doomed. It's not what you want to be doing as a single parent. You want to move on and have really good paper.

work. Yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.

Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?

Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. writer strong and wilfridel from pod meets world and we're bringing you viva las content that's right we are back in las vegas the city of sin and giving the people what they want a full week of y2k content wait we're back in vegas tell me why well for the backstreet boys residency at sphere of course we sat down with kevin richardson and a j mclean just minutes before they took the stage and our very own wilfridel basically became the newest member of the band. Boy band, please. Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his

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Listen to these women and more on She Pivots now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What was it? You said you were a teacher before. What did you teach? I taught P.E. Driver's Ed. health. Okay. And I coached all the sports. Like those teenagers? Junior high and high school. Yeah. That was my bread and butter. I loved it. I loved the kids. But there was something about, and I think that's why I'm good is because I was, I was formed on teaching. You know, that's, that was my background is all teaching and teaching and teaching. So I mean, you give me a subject. I can talk for hours about divorce. And so that's why Jared was like, you have to teach

people like let all of the pain that you went through, become your passion and just teach people better. and I know I've seen people thousands of dollars and that's great, but I know I've helped people take their power back and feel educated and well-versed when talking to their exes and with their attorneys. They feel like they know what they're talking and they know why. I always explain why something. I don't just say, hey, pick this for Christmas. I give them an example of why they should pick that for Christmas. And then it's like, you see all these lightball moments for people that are super distracted right now. Again, in that really tough phase of married and one, that divorce, phase, you're emotional, you're worried about your kids, you're finding yourself again.

You're just, you're worried about everything. Let me guide you. Let me guide you through that part because I've been there, done that, did it wrong, but now I know how to do it right. Well, first of all, I think like because you had that experience teaching and sort of managing adolescent personalities, different people, all different shapes and sizes. I feel like there's, you know, a lot of guys who kind of stop developing at a certain age until they don't, can't can't get away with it anymore. Yep. And I feel like that's good on the job training for you.

Absolutely. So, yeah, I'm a single mom, say, and I'm going through what has become a high conflict divorce, and I don't know what I need, but I know I need help. So a person like you is a person to turn to for just to help you have a plan in place to give you guidance. Yeah, because I think my ideal client would be the woman that's at home going, gosh, I want to leave and this has given me hope. Like, you know, I'll contact Sam. I want you to contact me before you contact an attorney. And here's why. I want you to be educated first when you

go to that consultation with that attorney. Because you should be doing two or three consultations to really get a full grab. And I would really like to take it a step further and not only get an education from me, I have a masterclass with a workbook that's phenomenal. It's only $97. I keep everything affordable because when I was going through my divorce, I couldn't afford it. That's amazing, though. Yeah, just a little master class, a couple hours long. You can learn all the lingo, learn about holidays, learn what's going to be asked of you, right? And then I would really, if I had like the best wishes for you, I would want you to go ahead and build your parenting plan.

That way, you can get everything wrote down of what ideally you would want for your kids from diapers to diploma. And then you use that paper to take into your consultations and say, okay, attorney, I know you're giving me all the right answers here, but I want you to look at this. And if you really truly believe that you're a good fit for me, what do you think of this proposed parenting plan? this is how much detail I want to have. This is the level of longevity I want to go.

And what do you think? And I'm going to tell you right now, that answer will dictate whether that's a good lawyer for your situation or not, because that lawyer may get offended that you've already done a lot of work because that just decreased their billable hours. That attorney may say, absolutely not. We're not doing something like that. No judge will go for that. And it's like, well, that's because you're still using a template from 1984.

So things have changed. Kids have modernized. So have relationships. and so has personality disorders. We need a little bit more detail in here. But there's attorneys out there that have seen my parenting plan and they love it because because modifications are on a rise. People are coming back to court again and again once they're divorced because they

realize their paperwork is faulty and it doesn't go and age up with the children. No, but then you feel stuck because you've just gone through this expensive divorce and you realized you shouldn't have said no to this or you should have said yes to this or you realize I don't even know what's happening. is he's taking them for every other week what right and because that was my case I was just like in such a haze of like what I didn't even know what way was up right and then you have to go back like that's the only option you have to go get it amended and that costs a ton of money too yep and that's where that's just my frustration I mean I had 300 court entries for a reason because our parenting plan

when we got it was four pages I was so excited after four years to have a parenting plan I mean I was like disappointed in what it said, you know, as far as visitation. But I was like, okay, at least I have a parenting plan. And then the first time I went to use it, I was like, wait a second. Like, why is this not mentioned? Why is this not mentioned? So then I casually called my ex because I thought we'd be co-parenting. And he was like, doesn't say I have to. I'm like, wait a second. Like, you know, or it was child support should cover that. Child support should cover that. You know, doesn't say I have to. It was always like, yeah, but this is for our kids. This isn't for me. And if it's not written, they won't do it.

And so I was stuck with this four-page parenting plan. So every time like the kids leap to a different phase of life, I would have to go back and say, can we add this in here? And I kept asking, can't we just kind of plan out? Because again, I taught. I know the phases of children. Can we just not write out all the way to graduation?

Well, we don't know yet, Sam. So you would just want me every time they go through a new phase to hire my attorney, pay a new retainer, fill out paperwork and go through this stress all over just when I'm telling you, let's just go ahead and put it down. And my methodology is this, too many people go into divorce thinking they'll be friends still or they'll get along or they'll just work on it later or discuss it later. My methodology would be plan for worst case scenario. You're already paying the money.

Pay for worst case scenario, write out every detail you can possibly think of all the way to graduation. And here's the deal. If you end up being that kumbaya relationship and you are friends, put the fucker on the shelf and never look at it. But if you need it, you pull it out and you say, hey, I'd love to, Steve, but I think I'm going to follow the parenting plan on this one. I didn't have a parenting plan, Sam.

Oh, my gosh. That makes my just blood boil for you. I don't know how we got through it. I remember a lot of futile, well, I'm going to call my lawyer threats. And then him saying, go ahead. You'll have to pay for it. Then you're like, well, fuck me. I can't.

I don't have more money to pay for this. Yeah. Yeah, I've got nothing. I have no choices. I have no options. I have no way out of this awful feeling. Right. And that's, that's the situation that most of my clients have is that they're willing to work with their co-parent. And their co-parent is a counterparent who always say, taking you to court then, you can't do that. I'm taking the kids from you. You're going to have to pay for my lawyer to where I'm already broke. So now you have me by the balls. And you know, now I have to agree with what you want because I can't afford to take you to court. So then that high conflict parent gets away with murder every single time. Every single time. And it's frustrating. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists

there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Rider Strong. And Wilfredel from PodMeets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content.

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They're using that parenting plan as a starting point to take to mediation with them. Because we all know in our first mediation appointment, we're like ass sweaty nervous. We mean, we're just like, you know, mouth dry. And we see our high conflict person and then we may freeze, right? And then we forgot all those good things that our girlfriends and TikTok showed us and the reels. And we're like, oh, shit, we forgot. So that's why you need to have it on paper because you're going to lose your mind at your first appointment. So having that there. You know, and then if doesn't go well, okay, still, I still have it. Maybe I'll edit it a little bit, make it from what I heard in mediation. But then my attorney is going to propose it to the other side, attorney to attorney before our court date even comes. comes up. So the attorneys are constantly trying to edit down because at the end of the day, when you have children and you're divorcing, everybody's going to walk away with a parenting plan of some kind. It's going to have some kind of written, you know, documentation that says what's happening with the kids, what holidays, you know, what things are you doing? And so why not be the lead on that? Because like I've told my clients, I'm not polishing a turd. If you wait for your client to send over to our side and I'm helping you, I can't fix garbage. Okay. And mine is spectacular. Because again, diapers is a plow in detail, detail, detail. And when I get these like six, seven page parenting plans to just say, parties will later discuss, parties will later determine. No, I don't want to determine anything with him later. I want it to be done. So that's why I always want my client to have it done first, be the proposer, be the ones that initiate, be the lead. You know, from the marriage, most of my clients have been the second person.

They may have been leading in the organizer and everything, but they've been second fiddle for most of the marriage. This is your opportunity to be leading through this process and feel like you have your power coming back. You know that you don't spend any time researching divorce or how that works. No, until you're about to get one. But I feel like in just talking to you, like I feel like we should talk about that, teach that before people get married. I mean, not people will not like that probably because people don't even want to talk about pre-ups. But I feel like if you're going to go into a legally binding situation with somebody and it looks amazing in this moment, you don't know what's going to happen in life. nobody knows. And again, you have no control. Right. So why not learn, why shouldn't we be teaching

and, you know, it's another thing I wish we were teaching in school. Like what is marriage? What does that mean to us? And how does that affect our livelihood and our living situation? All the things. It's really important. Right. Well, I have two children from my divorce who are now, you know, 21 and 19. And one of them's in college. She goes to University of Alabama. And, you know, she sees her peers, you know, going out and doing typically. college behavior and she's always playing through because she was a child of a high conflict co-parenting journey. She's always like, hey, I know you're dating that guy. If you sleep with them and happen to get pregnant, can you co-parent for the next 18 years with this guy? I mean,

my daughter's like the mom trying to be like, hey, you may have an accident that you don't intend to. Can you co-parent with this? Do you even know what their morals are? Do you know what they want for Christmas and not like my kids are so well versed in my business now. They're part of the business and helping, you know, other kids going through divorce and moms and giving input and things like that of what it was like, because I didn't do it right. And so they talk about, you know, my journey and stuff. But yeah, you have to be able to co-parent with this person before you have kids and having that strong conversation, hey, before we get into kids, if we ever do split up, what would you think? What would it feel like? You know, in my second marriage with Jared,

I joke, but I'm not joking. You know, I am the breadwinner of our household. I've always joke that I will pay you child support. I will be the weekend warrior parent. I will swoop in for holidays. Like I can't go through another toxic divorce. There's just no way my body. But I also picked a man that I know it would never get that way. It's not going to get that way. His personality is the personality that I need. Right. So having that ability, I think that first marriage gives you is like, I know what I don't want. Not doing that, right? You learn a lot. Yeah. You learn along with everything. I'm unfortunate on the job training situation. If you're not learning from every relationship about what you put into it and what you took away and what your

fault is. And I think just a little side piece of advice to anybody listening when they start dating again, if you're dating someone after your divorce and they've been divorced as well and they can't take any ownership in their divorce, that's a red flag for me. That's a red flag. And for me, first eight years, I would have told you was all my ex-husband. Gosh, to live with him, I would have blamed everything on him. But then again, when I got personal development and self-care and self-love and boundaries and all that personal work was going on with therapy, that's when I realized, should I play just a biggest part in our marriage failing and our divorce taking forever? It was me too.

Absolutely me too. Yeah, there's so much finger pointing in the beginning, especially maybe for many years. And I definitely was, you know, a major part of that. But I had to start, I always say I had to start pulling the thumb and like looking at my pardon things. And that's not just like, you know, with my divorce, that's like you should be doing that in every situation in your life, looking at what is your part in this either being a success or not being a success. Exactly. I love that. I love that. I'm going to steal that thumb thing.

It's a good one, right? That is a good one. Okay. So when people find you, what is the number one question they have? How do I get my lawyer to understand what I need? A lot of people don't know how to work their lawyer in their favor. And I think people forget you are the one paying your attorney. It's not the other way around. You know, you're, you are paying for you. Right, right. So people are coming to me for expert, you know, advice on parenting plans and how do I get my attorney to understand that I want the longevity, you know, I want the detail. I want to be protected. I don't want to have to come back to court or work with them. So that would be hands down, parenting plan questions and how to get your lawyer to buy into it is the big one. And for that, just the answer is the right attorney will buy into

your story and believe you. And anybody that shames you for saying, you know, Well, don't worry. I've seen a lot of ex-husbands or ex-wives like that. Like, it's not that big a deal. That's not your attorney. You guys, there's plenty of attorneys out there. I don't care if you even live in a small town. Fish around, go around.

Do your research. Picking the wrong attorney at the very beginning can be a doomsday to your whole case. So due diligence. I mean, I know people are like, I'm broke. You know, I can't afford all these consults. Can you afford $100,000 by picking the wrong attorney at the beginning? Because that's what I did. I fell for dove chocolates in the bathroom and the marble count.

her tops and her high heels. And I was just like, I'm in love. I was like, look at this powerful woman. And then she didn't do shit for me. And then I hired my ex attorney who wore like shoulder pads before they were cool again, had like Sigourney Weaver hair and like just destroyed office. I hired her and she was a badass. So it's not always what you think at the consultation, but that's why I want you to take that parenting plan and really say, no, this is the level of person I'm dealing with. And this is how much protection I need. And if they don't buy into that detail. That's not your attorney. Okay, I think this is a great place for us to take a pause in this conversation.

We have so much more to talk about. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel, writer Strong, and Wilfredel from PodMeets World. We are back in Las Vegas and giving the people what they want.

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