The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - You Think You Have It Bad…They Have It Worse!

Episode Date: August 21, 2025

You think your divorce was messy? Imagine being famous and dealing with this drama. From accusations of stalking to spilling tea on podcasts...these celebrity divorces are a hot mess.We’ll tell you which celebs are going through it, which ones can't stop talking about their ex, and which ones are finding love the second (or third) time around. We have all the inside details.Plus, which notable ex-husband is coming out with his own tell-all memoir? We have all the info! Email us at: [e-mail] or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hi guys. Welcome back to I do Part 2. It's your celebrity mentor, Jen Fessler, and today I'm going to be breaking down and reacting to some of the latest headlines in the world of divorce with my producer, Heather. Hey, lady. Hi, Jen. How are you? Hi, Heather. So Heather is my right arm, right hand, right hand, all things off screen. And today she is. my partner on screen, which I'm actually very excited about. I want to hear your takes on this stuff, my friend. These are some wild stories. I'm ready to fall down with you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're talking you guys about the mess that has become some of these celebrity divorces.

And I don't know, maybe it helps people to hear about this in their own divorces or they all seem messy, right? Every one of us, all of us, I do part twos, have been through. I've never heard of anything being really easy in terms of divorce or, you know, death or even in my case, separation. But these celebrity ones are good. They're juicy and they're messy and, you know, sad in a lot of cases, right? For sure. But you know what? I think that sometimes, right, I mean, I haven't been through divorce myself, but I think you do have to go through a bit of that storm before you can get to maybe some of that, you know, nicer, happier endings.

And I think we're going to get to some of those stories today, too. There's some that are a little bit hopeful. We need some uplifting ones as well, right? Definitely. Yes, yeah. I have friends that always say, like, divorce is so underrated. These are my friends, of course, that have now had some time and separation from the divorce. But even like with younger kids, being able to sort of feel like your kids were in a safe place, but still have some time on your own.

But that's another episode. So let's just dive right in. Let's talk about Scott Wolf. Do you, you're too young, I think, Heather. Did you watch Party of Five? Listen, I did watch some Party of Five when I was growing up. It was a little bit more on the dramatic side. But I think Scott Wolf made appearances on some other shows that I used to watch back in the 90s for sure.

So I definitely know who I was in love with him. Yeah. Oh, my God. So, uh, I guess recently, pretty recently him and his soon to be ex-wife Kelly announced that they are getting divorced. Yeah. this has been drama since the get-go. If anybody's been following this story, obviously we know that there was police called to the house.

There was, I believe she was detained for a period of time. So it's just gotten a little bit bumpier week by week. But tell everybody about kind of what's going on right now, the latest on this story. So, yeah. So I guess Kelly was dropped by her own attorney. Right? She was making some accusations against Scott and that, you know, according to him, of course, are unfounded. And we are not in the room with her attorney and all of that. Obviously, their communications are privileged. So I guess it's up to us to sort of guess what happened there. But it's on the heels of her making these accusations. Maybe the attorney thought that she was making false allegations against him. You know, you don't hear about attorneys firing their clients. Yeah, well, it says here, it says on Monday, August 19th, the Utah judge presiding over the divorce granted a motion brought by Kelly's attorney Farah Spencer to withdraw her as her representation. The judge said that Farah and her law firm are permitted to withdraw as counsel of record for Kelly effective immediately and are relieved of any and all future duties and responsibilities for.

Kelly in this case. So, you know, obviously, like you were saying, we don't know all the details on why this, you know, went into motion. But I don't know what kind of sign it is when your divorce attorney was a client. Like, I think it's a little sketchy. Doesn't seem good. Well, I know also, I believe her allegations had to do with his parenting, right? And correct me from on, he has the kids. Right, Heather? I think that right now he does. If we're wrong in any of this, you guys, please forgive us. But it's all, I feel like this story is coming out in real time. 100%. Things are definitely changing with the wind on this one. Yeah. But yeah, there's a lot of mudslinging going on right now. You know, Kelly's been going to social media, posting a lot of, you know,

stuff, like we said. And we've all seen and heard, you know, body cam footage from that night. So we're getting pieces of this situation. One thing's for sure. It's not going well, I think, for them. It is very what feels contentious. And, you know, I think. Well, she's also, Heather, she's a life coach, right? You know what?

I actually remember Kelly from back when she was on reality TV. Back in the day, she was on MTV, the real world. I mean, I hope you guys, if you're listening to this pod, you're hopefully of age to remember the real world. If not, thank you for listening. I don't know what I would have interesting to say to you, you young people. But anyway, the real world, that started off reality TV. That was MTV show about, I guess it's sort of like Summer House now. Totally.

A bunch of kids at the shore, though. Was it the shore? But it's strangers. If we're really like. Yes, correct. Excuse me. about it. It was strangers picked to live together. But yeah, it was

cool. That's kind of what I remember Kelly being from. And you know, up until this time, I would say she was pretty much living a low profile with Scott. But I think she was, I do think, I remember reading she was a life coach. You might be right on. Which is interesting. It's like,

what is these expression therapist heal thyself or doctor heal thyself, you know? I mean, I think you can have distance from something like you can tell I certainly make a million mistakes and tell my kids, do as I say, not as I do. So even though I know, you know, a lot of times I know the right path or the right move to make, I don't always choose it, but I can tell you what it is. So, and I mean, you know, I think it's interesting, just the whole life coach thing.

And now she's unfortunately going through this mess. But we wish them certainly all the best. It's just a reminder of how ugly this can get. Yeah, definitely. Scott actually released a statement on the 15th telling, you know, People magazine that he is continuing to hope that to have most of this difficult chapter of his family's lives remain as private as possible. However, the well-being of their children is at stake and that will always be his main priority. So, yeah, we wish them all the best and hopefully they can get through this because at the end of the day, the kids are the most important aspect when I think anybody would agree when you're going through something like this.

Agreed. Well, yes, I would think that everyone would agree with that. Speaking of contentious and kids and messy, let's talk about Kim Zolziak and Croy Beerman. I'm actually really interested to hear your perspective on this one, obviously being from the Bravoverse, just right out the gate. Have you ever met Kim before? know her at all? No, I've never met Kim. I've been watching him for years and Kroy. And so funny, do you remember, I don't know if you watched them back in the day, when they fell in love at the

beginning. Yes, of course. Their wedding, their wedding special. But not just their wedding. Like, she saw him and she was like, okay, I think this, she didn't use this wording. But there was something about his ass. I remember her saying that it was the cutest ass she'd ever seen. Do you remember this? I do remember this. And I also, I don't know if you remember this. I think she asked him out first or something. When they got married, do you remember that she painted his jersey on her body and had photographs taken? I will never forget that photo shoot that she did. Oh my God. That's so funny. I remember. It was definitely a love story hot and heavy. It really was really fast in the beginning. I think they both agree with that. But it's just,

just gone, again, really pretty ill in these recent months. So you can go ahead, tell everybody kind of what's what's the late for them. Okay. Well, again, like, and I haven't met Kim, but I met three nights ago, I met Ariana. I was at a movie premiere and she was there, I guess, representing NextGen and her adorable boyfriend. And it's funny, you guys, you know, you read stuff,

you see stuff on TV. Obviously, we didn't talk about this. I didn't speak, didn't bring up your mother's, you know, getting to wars and it's ugly. But I'm just saying she was so sweet and warm. And when you meet people, sometimes they become human. And it all just becomes, you know, more than just an interesting story. It's just, it's very sad. And so I believe Ariana and who's the other sister? Breel. Breel, right? They're from, they, Corey adopted them. Right? So there are four kids. Yeah, I know he's definitely their stepfather. I don't know if she went through with the

I think he did. Anyway, so that's just how, that's just context about in terms of like how sad it is. But I think that Kim now has asked that Corey be thrown in jail for stalking her, you know, which is, and he obviously is denying those claims. So it is, it's gotten to the point where it sounds like it's, you know, stalking her home and wanting her, he wants her thrown in jail. She filed documents about there, really what seems to be their kind of never-ending divorce. Yeah, they have four kids, right? And they have, then he adopted the two. But it's gotten out of control.

And she says that he is, Croy's been exhibiting erratic behavior. That Croy's obsession with her has led him to surveilling the residents. Why can I say surveilling? Survealing. Yeah. availing the residents of a third party at whose residence Kim was present as well as following Kim on such mundane tasks as grocery shopping. It sounds like the Jen Shaw and the Monica of it all. It's really wild. And you know, it's kind of like this outlet says it never ending.

I feel like similar to the Scott Wolf and Kelly situation, Kim and Croy are in the headlines every single week when it comes to their divorce, whether it is the money situation, whether it's somebody won't leave the house, whether it's, you know, their kids are speaking, you know, so it's really, really gotten messy. And, you know, I just want to hear from you as, you know, as an adult who's also been in a very long-term marriage. Yeah. Do you think that these two really need to be focusing on right now. Do you think they need better mediation? Do you think they should be, you know, enlisting the help of a divorce coach? Because it feels like they're not getting it right. So obviously, just my opinion. So I feel like this whole thing would have gone a lot

easier if from the beginning. And maybe they have one, but I'm thinking not. They had a pre-up. So let me just put that out there. So they came into this. marriage, not as children starting out, right? They came into it as grown-ass adult. He was a football player, so I'm sure he came in with his own money. She was a reality star. I'm sure she came in with hers. I might be wrong, but that's, and my guess is from all of this that they do not have one. So if you're listening, who cares what Jen Fessler thinks? But if you're interested, I care what Jen Fessler thinks. Thank you, Heather. But I mean, I just feel like that would, I think there's so much that we hear about the money, right?

Yeah, especially with the Ariana of it all talking about how they used her money. I actually thought, if you guys watched her on, watch what happens live recently. And Kim was there in the front row. And they handled that whole thing beautifully, like Kim said. I guess she had to pay the rent. It was what it was. Or the mortgage or right. But that's a hard thing.

I'm sure their relationship was not easy, you know, when Ariana realized what was going on with the money. Whatever. That's not the issue today. But I think that it probably has, what do you think, Heather? At least 50%, maybe more, it has to do with the fact that they don't have any money now. Now, I don't know where all that money went. I don't know they had that huge mansion, right? I guess they lived extravagantly.

Yeah. And I think, listen, I think the fact that their kids are still young. Yeah. You know, the oldest, you know, of the kids before that they've had together is 14, the youngest, the twins. are 11 um i think that having young kids really does make divorce a lot more complicated than when kids are older because you are having that struggle with custody and visitation and all that stuff that maybe you wouldn't have if the kids were over 18 um so i think that's a really you know added so you think it has as much to do with that as as money i think that money is probably a huge factor

but when she's claiming things like stalking and stuff like that, I don't think that that necessarily these claims have to do with money. This is maybe this might be underlying in terms of visitation and things like that. Yes, agreed. Completely I agree. But I think that sometimes it gets so contentious so quickly, right? And they've talked about this both publicly when they're both so worried about the finances. And Kim, you know, selling off her things.

And a woman that is, you know, obviously she's lived, well, at least from what we've seen, a very affluent life. And things have changed very, maybe not so quickly, but as far as we've seen. And then it gets ugly. I think a lot of times the fear, the financial insecurity, can lead to that kind of animosity that can then spill over. And I'm not saying that I don't know what happened with the kids.

And I don't know about Croy stalking her. I wasn't there, so who knows. But I just, my feeling is that, I don't know, I would suggest people going into a marriage if everybody is a little bit older and has their own stuff, not that that's even always going to make it easier. I'll piggyback on what you're saying, Jen.

I don't think it matters what stage of life you're in when you come into the relationship. Really? Up is the best way to go. And I think that's what you're getting at is next time, Kim, Croy, if you get married again after this get a pre-up listen i i i mean i i love that you're putting that out there right because i think there's people have lots of different ideas about a pre-nup and a lot of i think young people feel like

it is predicting that the marriage is going to end right you're taking these vows for forever what are you going to say i was going to say that i hear that a lot the that's not it takes the romance out of the situation um we've had some really amazing pre-up people actually on this podcast that have pointed out that if you get divorced, the state that you live in has a say in how your marital assets are divided, regardless if, you know, you decide to have a nice divorce or a contentious divorce. Right. So approach your marriage the same way you would approach your, you know, financial

portfolio, buying a house, anything like that. it is protection for the what if you wouldn't buy a house and not have house insurance you wouldn't you know um and and things like that it's like that doesn't mean that you hate your house um if you were to buy a house and you know i think that it's sometimes harder if one person is coming into the marriage with a career and let's say that they both have careers but one is way more lucrative okay and let's just go with the traditional um idea of this. It's not always true. Please don't, you know. But let's say a young woman is going in and a young man and she knows she wants to have babies and her career may not, may or may not, again, I'm

generalizing, but may or may not continue in a big way when she has kids. Maybe she wants to be a stay at home mom and her soon to be husband is, has a big job and makes tons of money. And so I feel like maybe the fear of if something happens and now the kids are, certain age, I'm totally fucked, right? But I think, and you said you've had some attorneys on talking about this, if it's me and I'm advising my daughter to take a look at like what is this going to look like down the road, right? So playing out those scenarios and saying, you know, and I think it's probably very difficult to do, but if there is a divorce at this point, and including that in whatever contract you're signing, this is how much I'm going to walk

away with not just that he gets everything that he had and I get everything that I had and that's it right so I guess that's negotiable remember in sex in the city when Charlotte was arguing with um Trey's mom did you watch yeah and I guess she wanted Charlotte to sign a pre-up and there's a scene and I guess they wanted to give her whatever I don't know 500,000 dollars and she's like I'm worth a million do you remember that's during the divorce yeah I know that was before they got married oh before they got married yes do you remember her in negotiating the million because she was worth it. Yes. Yes, because she said she was worth it. I love that line. Yeah. And I think that is important. You bring up a great fact, but also people should

remember preempts can be updated and changed throughout the marriage. So if your life looks one way before you get married and things change with your career, maybe you weren't the breadwinner when you first got married, but then you became a stay-at-home mom who made social content and you grew a following and now you're getting brand deals, you can change that, and it's called a postnup, and you can change that and make it reflect more about what the marriage is looking like at that current time. So people need to get a little bit out of the, everything is so black and white in your boxed in forever and know that things can be negotiated and change. So I love that Jen's saying, get a pre-up. I'm saying get a pre-nup and also Kim and Croy, get a divorce coach.

We've had an amazing divorce coach on this show named Samantha Boss, who really opened our eyes as to what a divorce coach can do, especially she does high conflict contentious divorces like this. It's way beyond mediation. And anybody that's going through a contentious divorce right now is really struggling with an X that is making things difficult should really go back and listen to that episode because there's a ton of information as to why a divorce. coach is actually a huge asset when going through something like this. I mean, you say asset, I think of, again, of the finances of that. And I think imagine the money you could save on attorney's fees if you have someone guiding you so that it's not contentious. And I, you know, I actually am going to go back.

I don't know why I haven't listened to that episode. And I mean, I don't plan on being divorced at this point. But I still, I want the information. you want the info for sure to share with my friends um you know a lot of whom obviously are are going through it and and i really have i've yet to know a couple that got divorced that where it was friendly at at the beginning and during afterwards sometimes it gets friendly jen you're saying that conscious uncoupling like gwyneth paltrow and miss barton isn't a thing I can't with that.

I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast.

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And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK. Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport.

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So here's a sad state of affairs, really sad. Kelly Clarkson and her late ex-execkel. husband, Brandon, I think it's, is it, I thought it was beer stock. Blackstock? Blackstock? Blackstock. Um, Reuben McIntyre's stepson. So he passed for melanoma, um, recently. And she's, I guess she's feeling like the stress of the divorce, um, might have exacerbated, you know, the disease. And, and I don't know what I believe in terms of, of that. I mean, I know people say that stress, brings out, you know, manifests physically. But it's so, I was thinking about this

and how it must be so hard for her. You know, it's so final. And it's been, they did, they also had a very contentious uncoupling. So, you know what I was thinking about my grandparents. And both of my grandmothers hated my grandfathers. Like nasty, nasty, um, relationship.

And I think they resented the fact that back in the day when they were young people getting married, the wife was expected to have, you know, my nana used to say a protein, a vegetable and a starch on the table when he got home. And he had nothing to do with the kids. And he didn't, it wasn't like go watch them play softball. There was the king got home. He was served dinner. He, she had so much resentment about the fact that he didn't. really interact with her or her boys. And so as they got older,

it was so ugly, right, between them. But once he died, Poppy, I called him Poppy. But once he died, she became so sad and missed him so much. And both, actually, both of my grandmothers talked about it. And unfortunately, they both died soon after their husband's passed. And they talked so nicely about their husbands. And they weren't trying to impress me. I knew the relationships.

They were my grandparents. But I think sometimes the finality, right, of death like that, and I don't know if this is what's going on for Kelly, but you look back and you think, I would have done things differently. I would have said things differently. Maybe I would have been more gentle. Maybe I would have been more empathetic.

And again, I don't know if that's what Kelly's going through, but what she's saying is reminding me of this, like, feeling of that I think both my grandmother's had, that they were so hard on my grandfathers and there was nothing looking back there was nothing they could do to fix it and I think they both felt guilty about their part in it

my grandfathers were not saints so there's that but I feel for Kelly Clarkson because she's carrying around you know that guilt and feeling like the stress contributed to the cancer it's a hard thing to live with right?

Yeah I listen I think this whole situation is overall really sad, right? They have, like you said, they had gone through a difficult divorce a couple of years ago, and they have two kids, you know, River 11 and Sun Remington, who's nine. So, you know, and this is all right. We don't have any direct fact. This is just being reported right now in the press that, you know, although the timing could be purely coincidental, the source says that Kelly knows how much tension the divorce and the lawsuits put on them. And they're saying that she's

not blaming herself, but the emphasize that she is conscious that the double whammy of the divorce and the fact that he had to repay her millions of dollars was very tough on him. And it really brought up for me personally. I really appreciate you sharing your insight with your family. For me, my parents were divorced. when I was really young and I lost my mom it was just recently it's been 10 years

and I thank you and I remember the situation of my father navigating the grief of losing his ex-wife and it was a really it was a delicate dance my dad is remarried

but I think that there was and obviously Kelly is as far as we know is not in another public relationship at this time. But I think that there was a time where my dad felt that he wanted to grieve, obviously, the woman that he had a family with, that he had children with, but was also consciously, you know, trying to not rock in terms of his own marriage. So I think that that's an interesting situation to be in when, I mean, my parents definitely didn't have the easiest of divorce, but once they were able to get through it,

maintained a very friendly relationship up until my mother's passing. I love that. Very friendly. I love that. We'd get together constantly for dinner, even when we were grown and out of the house, just the two of them. And so it wasn't something that I was expecting when going through the grief process to also be seeing my dad going through it, which, I mean, you think about it on

paper and it does make sense. But I think that's what a lot of people maybe don't think about when they've gotten divorced, especially when we talk about some of these contentious divorces that are happening. Right. Like if your ex-spouse, you know, is there one moment and gone the next and then you are ultimately a total single parent, that's a lot to take on, especially, again, when these kids are very young now, too, have lost their fathers. Yeah. I think that there's right it's so multi-dimensional it's imagine the sorrow for your kids you know it's all it's funny it's all reminded me of of margaret josephs and joe benigno and margaret was on the pod and and her ex-husband passed her ex-husband jan and it was all very public it was on the show

but how she felt it was hard because she you know she's married and they have a fabulous marriage but at the time she was really she had a really mourn her ex they also had a friendly relationship. And then also, you know, feeling of if you're, you went through a contentious divorce and I'm sure the kids always know, right? They have, even if they don't know, they know that it's ugly between mom and dad. At least that's what my therapist tells me. But so looking back on that and I don't, there's something to be said for really working towards an amicable split. And I think there's, you look at cases like this. And, and it gives you a lot of insight. I remember Kelly

being really angry. And I'm not saying she didn't have a good reason to be. But I wonder if she had known then what she knows now, it would have been different. She would have been maybe not, and I, again, and I'm sure he was really angry and I don't know what

he was like to deal with. This is nothing to do. I'm not making a judgment. I'm just wondering if after the finality of death, people do look back and wish that they had done it differently and it's a good, I just think it's a good, it's some good insight for anyone going through it. I'm not saying picture, I'm sure many people going through divorce wish their partner was dead or think that they wish their partner was dead. But, you know, there's nothing to be done now.

There's nothing that is, you can't change what happened. You can't go back. And, you know, I think about that also a little off topic, but with my parents, my father and I had a difficult relationship and it was really difficult and now um we are good and but there's still stuff right and i also help my dad financially and i do it i don't want any i don't want to look back he's you know he's 83 years old and wish that i had said something that i didn't say that wish that I had acted in a way I didn't act or helped when I didn't help. I want to, I do these things for me, right? That is what I've learned in therapy.

And so this relationship I have with him now, which is really nice and warm and loving, I have, I worked, like, very consciously in terms of, like, developing that because I don't want to look back one day and regret not having had a relationship with my dad or, you know, I wish I had helped him more. But, again, that's often. topic, but I'm just saying that it's something to think about. You know, these are lessons. The sentiment is there for sure that life is short, do all that you can.

And, you know, we're obviously wishing Kelly Clarkson and her kids and, you know, Brandon's family that is all been affected by his passing. We're obviously all wishing them the best. Yes, we are. This difficult time because it is going to take time to heal from. something like this. It's a major loss for that family. Yeah, agreed.

Okay, but on to yet another couple who's going through it. So Jay Cutler and, excuse me, Kristen Cavalry. So I guess Kristen recently said that she got no money from the divorce, right? What do you think of that, Heather? I think it's a little interesting because, you know, Jay kind of, you know, know, got back at her recently in an interview and we can get into that. But these two, these two have been divorced for a minute. Yeah. And I think it's kind of telling that the both of them can't really seem to stop talking about the other one. Yeah. We are stuck in,

when did they get married the 80s? I don't even know. No, maybe not. They definitely didn't get married in the 80s. No, it's longer. Sorry, guys. That's my age showing. It just feels like they've been, yeah, because they're not that old. They're not that old. It feels like they've been married and divorced and hate each other forever. It's just really interesting. Like, Kristen has obviously had other public relationships, romances, since this divorce. And, you know, the stuff about Jay continues to come out. And I will say, you know, I'm a little bit torn on this because I do, I have been a long-time fan of Kristen and do love that she shoots straight. She gives it honest and real. On her podcast, in interviews, she always doesn't hold back, right? And this is why people love her,

and this is why she has maintained, you know, what could have been deemed as a five minutes in Hollywood and really stretched that over the course of over a decade now. And I think that that is really because she is open and honest with her audience, and that's why they love her. Now, for all, you know, everything, Jay, you know, was a huge football career with the Chicago Bears. And, you know, after he retired, he and Kristen had a reality show, which really did open him up to a new audience. We got to see his kind of funny personality. And now I believe he's doing sports broadcasting and stuff like that. So, um, in his post-retirement career. But, you know, I really, we should talk about exactly what he said. Yeah. It made sense what

he said. You know, he said that there's not a judge in the state of Tennessee that would have signed an agreement stating that Jay would keep every single dollar he made throughout their marriage. Um, yeah, he was apparently, he was one of the, was once the highest paid quarterback in the NFL. He signed $126 million contract with the Chicago Bears and, you know,

saying that, Kristen's saying that she got no money from the divorce, it definitely feels far-fetched to me. I will agree. Okay. And but also I guess and she has a whole lifestyle brand now, right? She does.

And that. It's making a shit ton of money from what I'm reading. Yeah, and she has maintained that she has 100% of that company and that she never took outside funding and Jay did not have anything to do with its creation and that it's making, you know, 50 million a year in revenue, which go girl. I think that's awesome. You know, she said, I have never gotten a penny from my ex-husband and added, I didn't get any money from him in the divorce.

So let's clear that up. Thank you. I mean, that, if you, maybe she's saying she had her own money and in her mind, what she got was, was her, I mean, maybe that could be interpreted different ways. But yes, it definitely sounds unlikely to me that he was making $126 million and she walked away with nothing. That sounds implausible to me. And I'll also back it up with you and I both know that divorce costs a lot of money.

Divorce lawyers are not cheap. So is it that she got money, but it went to paying divorce lawyers and she didn't come out with a profit? That's a different story. That doesn't mean you didn't get any money. It means that your money went to paying for your divorce proceedings. It just feels like it was probably so much money there. I don't know.

But I would think if Kristen was my daughter, you're right, she was not an 80s girl. No, Kristen and I are around the same. Okay. All right. Okay, all right, pipe down, Heather. But if Kristen was my daughter, which I guess she could be, I would definitely be advising her to stop, just stop, especially because it seems that she's thriving. She is thriving.

And they have three kids. Their kids are 13, 11, and 9. And so to me, it's also like, let's zip it a little just because there's no way that it's getting back, not getting back to the kids. Agreed. Listen, and according to Jay, he says her lifestyle brand was a marital asset because Kristen, you know, funded the company while they were married. Another reason, ladies and gentlemen, to get a pre-up, by the way.

Or a post-nup. Or a post-nup. Exactly. But, yeah, I just, I, it's, I would definitely advise if it's my daughter or or my son, I would be advising them both to zip it. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating.

He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed.

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Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job, a place, or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman, and on she pivots, I dive into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken big leaps in their lives and careers. I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweeten. Annika Patton. Elaine Welter-off. I'm Jessica Voss. And that's when I was like, I got to go.

I don't know how. but that kicked off the pivot of how to make the transition. Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so here's some 80s. News, Heather. It's not Kristen Kelly.

I still don't think this is 80s news. Kevin Federline is. I mean, I'm saying he's talking about his Britney in his, Kevin Federline has a new book coming out, guys. But he's speaking about Britney. That had to have been the 80s. Jen, no. Yes.

Hold on a second. So Kevin Federline is bringing his story. They got married in 2004 and divorced in 2006. no oh my god you guys okay i'm not a credible source so what i'm old give me a break what do you want from me i'm doing the best i can be quiet heather this is anyway he's going back what i'm saying is he's writing a book wait a second heather when i was in college i went to college from 86 to 90 and while i was in college brittney spears was doing her thing right No, Jen. She did not pop onto the scene until 1999. What are you talking about?

Are you sure? Someone looked that up. Brittany Spears came out with her debut album in like 98-99. I know because she was my first concert. She opened for NSYNC. And that was January of 1999. Quiet. Fine. Whatever. We'll move on. Anyway, the point is it still feels like Kevin Federline is. it's an interesting time for him to be writing a book about and I'm I think anybody would assume that it's going to have a lot to do with Brittany in this book. That's what's going to make it so interesting, right? But also apparently his son, their son just turned, I don't know, 17 or 18 and I guess child support is over. Yeah. So the, so the new book, his new, his first memoir is called You Thought You Know. And it's coming out October 21st. And yeah, I think it's really interesting timing because him and Brittany have two sons, Sean Preston and Jade and James. Sean is 19. Jade and James recently turned 18. So that and

anybody that's followed the Britney story knows that a couple of years ago, Kevin took, you know, full custody of the boys and was raising them. So that means that Britney was paying. So that means that Britney was paying child support. So that obviously means that it's most likely done now that they are 18. Now, who's to say that she's not still supporting them in some way financially? But I think it's really interesting that this is now when Kevin decides to come out with a memoir. Now, we also know that Brittany had her own memoir that came out and is also being made into a movie. You know, I just feel like, I don't know, you can, you tell me, I feel like, I feel like, you know, Brittany, we all know, has been through a lot.

And it kind of bums me out that now somebody else, again in her life, in her inner circle, is going to try to get a buck off of her. I got to tell you guys something, Heather, you are one amongst many. But Brittany lovers, like, people that I know younger than me, but that grew up on Britney, they are emotional about everything, Brittany. They get so upset My friend and my manager Loves Brittany

Like don't you say a bad word about Britney I remember even when I was recording season When we were doing season filming season 14 Rachel Fuda We had a whole funny thing about Brittany Because you do not dis Britney in front of her So people get very sensitive about Brittany And I think probably because she's

Definitely seemed over the years to be, she's always struggling, you know, with her mental health with paparazzi. We've all, we all watched her shave her head and take the baseball back to the car and and so talented, right, with so much to offer this world. Yeah. And I think anybody who's listened or read her memoir, it was eye-opening. It was extremely sad to hear about how she has been internally struggling this past, you know, decade really. So I will play a little bit of devil's advocate in the sense that because I did read Britney's memoir, I do know that Kevin was mentioned quite a bit in it because he is a big chunk and important part of her life.

He was her second husband and the only one that she had children with. So, you know, I will say that Kevin does have the right to write a book and mention Brittany and talk about his life. He says, you know, that it's going to be extremely intimate and transparent when it comes to this book. And if anybody didn't know, prior to being with Brittany, Kevin was a professional dancer. He danced with my Jackson, Pink, Destiny's Child. That's how they met, right? He was a dancer. That's how he met for her.

He was dancing for her. So he was also with Shar Jackson prior to being with Brittany. So he had a child or two children with her. Oh, right. It's not a life. You know, I won't deny that. But you're protective over Brittany. I just think it's a little bit of a bummer that this keeps happening to her.

And I just want Brittany. I don't want to say leave Britney alone, which is obviously the famous quote. But I do want Brittany to have a, you know, I wish her a lot of peace and to have a, you know, I wish her a lot of peace and to have a different lifestyle now that, you know, she's gone through her second public divorce with Sam. I love Brittany. I love her music. And I've certainly watched, you know, what she's been through.

And, but I can't begrudge him, you know, trying to make the big bucks. And I think it will sell. There's that. I think so, too. And I think it's going to get a lot of attention. We just feel bad for Brittany, is basically what you're saying. And I don't, I do too, but I have to say that, you know, man's got to eat. I don't know.

And maybe there are other ways to do it. But, you know, I also do think that Brittany, obviously, I'm, I was thrilled when her conservative, conservatorship was thrown out, right? But she still, to me, doesn't seem well. And maybe how, you know, I see her dancing. like everybody's kind of teases about her dancing with knives and she seems a little a little unglued but I'm on the shrink but having said all that I wonder what it's been like for him and his boys dealing with that right because they don't deal with it like we deal with it we watch it and we feel badly or we you know feel sometimes even amused everything seems so wild and

but for him I'm sure that's been very hard certainly it has to have been for his boys So he has a story to tell. And I, you know, don't, I don't wish that on, you know, any more sadness or any more controversy for Brittany. But I, I don't know. I sort of feel like I don't blame him. How's that? I agree. And I get, again, you know, she's come out with hers, talked about him.

I guess he has every right to come out with his own now and talk about her. So we'll stay glued to it. It's coming out October 21st. you thought you knew. So we'll keep you guys updated on that one. It's a good title. It is. It is kind of a good title.

I do like that. Right? I do too. You want to talk some Jessica Alba and Cash Warren? Yeah. I mean, we got to end this episode on some positive stuff. We could do Katie Perry and Justin Trudeau.

I just thought it was Justin Thoreau. Justin Trudeau? Justin Trudeau is different than Justin Thoreau. Okay. See, I hadn't heard about this one. for the Katie Perry out in my mind she's she just like split with Orlando so she did she I know that's what I think amazing that we should let our listeners know is that there is light at the end of the tunnel and some people are finding that light a little sooner than maybe others are

my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious oh wait a minute Sam maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?

That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him, because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?

To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush. Parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m. Everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal glass.

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they were together for married for 16 years. And at the top of this year, they announced that they were separating and going through the divorce motions, which was pretty shocking, I think, to anybody that has, you know, followed either Jessica through her launching of the honest company or her, you know, acting career, nobody really saw kind of trouble in paradise. Yeah, they always presented. They're so gorgeous. Exactly. And they just, right, always presented, at least to me on red carpets is just madly in love and, and yeah, this really beautiful power couple. Exactly. And they've got three kids, 17, 14, and 7. So, yeah, that was pretty.

shocking at the top of this year for them to announce that, but it looks like they are both moving on in their own ways and are doing quite well. So Cash was seen for the second time holding hands with Hannah Sundower, I will say is how it's pronounced, having dinner in Los Angeles. So that a lot of sources are saying makes it official because they've been seen twice holding hands. So I mean, take that with a grain of salt. But you know, I think definitely when you're a public figure and you're out there holding hands, getting, you know, snapped by the paparazzi, it means that you're comfortable or you're cool with people seeing it. Hopefully, it means that you've also talked to your kids and that they knew it was

coming. I mean, to think of the Mauricio of it all when he was snapped. Oh, my. And yeah, right? That is the thing. I mean, all roads lead back to the kids. And that's, you know, that's the part that it gets it gets really, where it gets really sticky. What I would say about the most situation, which is a little different than this, is these two, Cash and Hannah, they're holding hands, they're smiling, and they're looking exactly, like directly to the camera. They're not getting caught. So their kids are probably, and you don't know how long they've been in the midst

of separating and what the kid, right, of course. Exactly. So I'm going to toss it out there that they're probably feeling good about this relationship. It seems to be progressing. whatever it is. But also, I kind of love that, you know, we've also seen paparazzi photos of Jessica Alba and Danny Ramirez.

So they've been spotted kissing. We've actually seen pictures of them kissing. And, you know, she seems to be happy. She was recently also, like, vacationing and, like, posting some really hot photos of herself in a bikini. So it seems like they're both doing their thing. Well, listen, yeah, it does. I, again, since they're from the 80s.

I love it. And I'm their mother's age, but I probably am. But I would just tell them, I would beg of them, don't rush. Don't rush into the next thing. And all those cliches, you know, I feel like they're cliches for a reason. You don't want your rebound. to end up being your, although I'm not saying it never works, right? Maybe, maybe that's what's going on here.

But be very careful about rebound relationships, you guys. They are sticky. Your emotions are all over the place, especially when you are coming out of a marriage. And I'm not saying that maybe each, maybe Jessica and Cash have now found true happiness with these other, you know, two people. But careful, careful, slow down. Danger. Warning ahead. Danger ahead. Well, let's end on this other interesting headline that we're seeing, which is Katie Perry and former Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau, are dating.

So at first when I read that, Heather, I thought it was Justin Thoreau. Just so you know. So everything, I have to sort of, this is all, this is so bizarre to me. I have to now, Justin Thoreau would have made sense. Justin Trudeau, he's gorgeous. So whatever you want to say about him, man, is handsome. Exactly. And obviously, Katie is gorgeous as well.

And but what? I know. I can't. I'm trying to like, you explain that to me? How did that happen? It's a little bizarre. So, I mean, the headline says that they have plenty to talk about, but no current plans after date.

So if anybody's been paying attention to the headlines, these two. were spotted having dinner together, and then two days later, Trudeau was spotted at Katie Perry's show in Montreal. So, you know, Katie is fresh off of her broken engagement with Orlando Bloom, who she had a child with. Though they were never married, obviously, if everybody can go back in their brains, they know that Katie was previously married to Russell brand. So she definitely is in her part two, part three era. You think she's come on the pod? For some reason, not if I'm, I feel like maybe, maybe if a Jenny Garth or Amy and T.J. Listen, always open to Katie coming on if she would be interested

in that. Yeah, Katie, you hear that? Justin Trudeau, on the other hand, and his wife, Sophie, announced in August of 2023 that they were separating after 18 years of marriage and they have two children. So that's a really long relationship

to have ended. And then obviously if you're following politics whatsoever, you know that he also stepped down as prime minister of Canada not too long ago. So he's definitely going through a big shift right now in

in terms of his not only work life, but his personal life. So, you know, I don't know. I will say that the pictures I saw of them on their date, I was like, you know, attractive couple. And obviously, oh, they're dating. I don't even. I will be, I will be totally honest. I have followed Katie Perry's romantic life probably more than I would care to admit.

And I will say that I really don't get what her type is. I will say that honestly. I mean, okay, ready. Don't cringe. She kissed a girl and she liked it. Ew. I'm so cringy. Oh my God.

My kids would be so pissed. Don't listen, Rachel or Zach. Having a long-term relationship with, you know, John Mayer, being married to Russell Brand, you know, being with Orlando Bloom, I look at all these guys on paper and I say, what's the connection? You know what I mean? Because they all seem so different. And so now he's getting into a politician.

like it's all go girl like okay and i don't know this is again this is just me starting trouble but do you think that part of it is could be a rebrand for her right she got so much about her you know her astronaut escapades and maybe i don't know i'm just that i'm just making up you guys i don't know if that's i can't imagine that justin shrewdow would be interested in helping someone rebrand themselves, but he's certainly a more serious guy. Listen, what I'm going to say is I think that Katie, I would say, probably has an affinity. If you look at all these guys on paper, I think the one factor that I'm seeing kind of combined across the thing is they're all really good engaging talkers.

I think she likes a guy that is, whether that's gregarious or engaging in stimulating conversation, that would be my guess and I would say that Justin Trudeau probably is able to have some very humiliating conversation. Yes, I'm a betton girl on Justin to be able to carry a conversation. Exactly.

But it's not always like that. Look at J-Lo. I mean, I don't know how you compare there have been a lot of them. Alex, right, well, actually they're all, maybe not her first husband was not so famous and successful. I don't remember, but certainly from

you know, Ben Stiller to Alex Rodriguez to I'm sorry sorry you mean Ben Affleck not Ben Stiller not doing this podcast anymore I quit no I do not like how you're treating me I'm sorry I don't not like it I'm sorry I'm not having it I would have just loved Jen Fessler breaks headline JLo used to be with Ben Stiller I didn't say Stiller you did no what I thought I said Ben stiller oh God I said stiller Oh, no. Oh, my God. I love it, Jen.

It's early. Listen, when you need an authority on anything, you should come to me. If you want to know about marriage and this, really, ask Jen Vessler. I think Bessler. Is that my last name? Yeah, I think that's yours. I was born in the 80s, so I have a lot of, I have a lot of knowledge to impart. I love that.

Whoa. Well, I will say, whatever this little budding romance is, connection, whatever it might be, I'm into it. Not that they need my stamp of approval, but I'm kind of. into it. What about you? I'm not a crazy Katie Perry fan. She's cute, talented. I'm not a stand. But I think this is, I think it's a really interesting recoupling or coupling, right? Yeah. Yeah, I'm into it. I agree. I agree. We'll keep, we'll keep you guys also posted on that one if it ends up, you know, progressing to something. Yes. Did you get the puppy or not? Soon. Soon. Very soon. Heather's about to have her next chapter.

Yeah. She is adopting a King Charles Cocker Spaniel puppy. I saw a picture and my girl, everything is about to change. I'm about to be a dog, mommy. You're about to be a dog, mommy. It's about to get crazy. No, very, very soon. I'm so excited for you.

But anyway, guys, so now that you're all updated on 80s news, we will thank you for listening. This has been fun, Jen. Thanks for having me. Please, let's do it again. Yeah, of course. I feel like we are the new Johnny Carson and Ed McMahon, who you probably don't even know what I'm talking about. That sounds like some 80s news to me right there. All right, you guys, that was a lot of divorce headlines. If you are going through divorce or heartache right now, I hope this helped you to realize that you are not the only one going through it. Thank you, Heather, again, for breaking it all down with me. Just get out. of a messy divorce need help picking up pieces call us or email us all of the info is in the

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