The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 108: Why We're Joining Elon's AMERICA Party

Episode Date: July 10, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Elon Musk, don't worry, just relax, all right? Let's get it out of the way, just relax. It's okay. He tweeted that he's going to start a new party. It's in reaction to the BBB, the one big beautiful bill, which, come on, you've heard a big, big beautiful bill. Don't make me do it. But Trump made it happen.
Starting point is 00:00:17 He said, I want to sign it on July 4th, and he did it. And Elon's live it beyond beside himself. I'm shocked that we haven't seen more kind of tech titans, what have you, come out and be like, Why are you, why are you destroying us? I feel like I missed something. These people are complaining about like, well, I'm not getting enough. Yeah, they're doing a great job.
Starting point is 00:00:36 I got my ice cream Sunday, but where are the chopped nuts? What was the point of Doge if he was just going to raise the debt by five trade? And it's like, brother, we elected the leopards, eat my face party, but I didn't think the leopards would eat my face. We've got to run on sexy. I'm surprised he didn't call it like the sexy party or something cringy like that, or like the epic. I would see epic more than sexy.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Epic bacon party. epic bacon party I'm looking down time with me tell me what's going on and we are in we are in business we're back in business
Starting point is 00:01:27 We're back in business. Oh, how was your, how was your holiday? Should we pour one out real quick for, uh, for, for, for who? For taking your shoes off at TSA. Oh, oh, wow. Wow, that's not what I was expecting. I haven't, I haven't had to take my, I thought you were going to, I, anything. I was like, were you going to do like, did he being released?
Starting point is 00:01:50 Nope, it was shoes. But as someone who has prechecked, has had prechecked. I'm celebrating that maybe, I think, as a pre-check person, you might have noticed the rise in pre-checkers. Sometimes you show up at JFK and you say, hey, wait a second. I thought this was supposed to be faster. I was supposed to be elite here. What happened to my status? I've definitely a couple times recently been in a situation where I thought that it was faster and I looked over to the Normie line and it was quicker.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Really annoying. I've never really seen it. I've heard people who don't have pre-check say to me like, yeah, but sometimes those lines are so crazy and it's like, sounds like something without pre-check. The international line at LAX can be a little hectic sometimes. There was a guy in front of me
Starting point is 00:02:38 the last time I was at the international line who was huffing and puffing. And I said, how much time do you have? He said, 90 minutes. And I wanted to go, shut up. 90 minutes. Sir, just shut up. You got plenty of time.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Where is he from? German. He was from L.A. Oh, oh. Did you just throw out Germany? Where was he from? Germany. You know, in all my travels, I have found that there are stinky people in every nationality. That's very progressive of you.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Stinky people. You would, that lady online, she would, um... What lady? Remember the lady who did the PhD and everyone was like... Oh, yeah. Well, I forgot about her. Just goes to show how you forget everything you read online. Name me one thing you read online in the last week.
Starting point is 00:03:23 The lady. She had a recent tweet about how she actually can't smell the Ph.D. lady. Or she's allergic to perfume or something. Wow. I don't wear deodorant, so I don't know what. Personally, I don't need it. Well, that's a determination you've made, but not maybe everyone else. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:04:04 And I got a bit of big news, folks. Hopefully this works. But you all know Dylan, right? Dylan, who previously died, he was working with us, but then he died. Well, he came back to life. And he and I and our psychotic, crazy psycho friend, Steve, I'm sure he'll appreciate that. We're starting a show. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Starting a podcast. We're calling it three thumbs up. That's fun. So if you go to YouTube.com slash at symbol three thumbs up pod, I'll put it in the description. Please go sign, please hit the subscribe button. We're not going to post until we hit. I'm just going to say 5,000 subscribers. I was going to say 10, but then that seems too ambitious.
Starting point is 00:04:48 It felt unrealistic. It felt unrealistic because, yeah, I don't know. but we're very excited and Dylan is excited to mumble on mumble. No, he's not going to mumble. It's just when we've had it,
Starting point is 00:05:01 when we were, when we would have him chime in on occasion, he was like, I don't like talking. So he feels. Well, he's going to love podcasting.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yeah, he's going to love it. He's going to be on camera and talking and, oh boy. Well, while we're doing plugs, why don't you go over to
Starting point is 00:05:17 YouTube. com slash Emil de Rosa. I've been doing some fun live streams. How often are you doing it? Once a day? No, no, no, no. I tried to do it like at least once a week.
Starting point is 00:05:25 I want to do it more, but... Are you going to upgrade and get a proper camera so you can no longer have it just on your thing? Oh, it's a whole journey. You know, there was a... I've gone from... There's been a whole plethora of audio and video issues, but I've honestly worked a lot of it out. You didn't have to suffer through any of the... If you join now, you won't have to have suffered through any of the tech issues and it's all smooth sailing here.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Still teaching myself some stuff, but it's... Give them an incentive. What happens when you reach 10,000 so? Things are going to get real wacky. You're going to shave your head? Yeah, if I hit 10K, I'll get a proper camera. Oh, I thought you were going to say a proper buzz cut or something. But yeah, someone on Reddit said it's mostly politics, books, and tennis,
Starting point is 00:06:06 and that's about right. If that stuff. I feel like there's a huge audience for that. The politics books tennis community is a huge one. You should write a short film about tennis playing. politicians political while they're reading books a political thriller author
Starting point is 00:06:25 well folks man oh man what a what a what a what a what a what a what a week in news there's a lot going on and keep it tuned right here because we're going to we're going to fill you in like a creamy donut
Starting point is 00:06:40 donut what were you going to say creamy donut oh cream filled donut okay yeah do you like cream filled donuts? Um, it's not my first choice, but if it was like, there's a box of donuts and, and
Starting point is 00:06:57 I would, yeah, I would share. Yeah. There's nothing worse than biting into what you think is a cream-filled donut. And it's jelly? I honestly kind of... It's custard. Oh. I think I might like jelly more. Jelly? Yeah? Well, there was a place... We're going to get off that. No, it's okay. It's the first couple minutes. Anything.
Starting point is 00:07:16 There was a place, I don't, I don't, unfortunately, closed. Oh. One of our friends had is it Hanukkah they do the jelly donuts? Yeah Or I want to say Roaster Shish, no I don't know, go on
Starting point is 00:07:29 I think it's Hanukkah And I went to a Hanukkah party And someone brought The jelly donuts from this place And I had so many And I literally couldn't stop thinking about them And then I went to go get them And they were like
Starting point is 00:07:42 Oh, it's just a Hanukkah thing, it's over And I was like, you gotta be kidding me And then I waited an entire year Went back, they were delicious And then they closed to like shortly after What was the name of the donut shop? Was it a pastry shop or explicitly donuts? Gemini Bake Shop.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Never even heard of it. I'm missing out on so much good food. Well, you'll never have it. Jelly donuts. Oh, yeah, it is Hanukkah. Hanukkah. Anyway. Delicious.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Delicioso. But those are really the only ones I've had. Bienveninos to the podcast of Ben and Emil. So, Elon Musk. Don't worry. Just relax. All right. Let's get it out of the way.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Just relax. relax it's okay he he tweeted that he's going to start a new party which is nice for me because i had joined the panicking party when that first started and uh wasn't getting a lot of traction yeah a little bit silly but it's nice to be able to join the american party that's what he's calling it the the america part america well the america party and i got to say this podcaster hates to admit that There's certain parts of it that I'm like, you know what? Fine. Okay. It's like the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Well, so there are certain parts of it. So a big part of it is because it's in reaction to the BBB, the one big beautiful bill, which, come on, you've heard of the big, big beautiful bill. Don't make me do it. But Trump made it happen. He said, I want to sign it on July 4th. And he did it. And Elon's livid. Pissed. Beyond beside himself. Not for a lot. There's a lot in there. If you haven't looked, it's like, I mean, Trump basically wanted to get his whole platform into one big bill, which is honestly, as much as I hate this, Billy, you got to give it to
Starting point is 00:09:33 him. He kind of just was like, I'm going to ram this fucking thing through. Oh, yeah. And it's going to be horrible for so many reasons. The Medicare stuff, the Medicaid stuff, the Snap stuff, all of this stuff. But that, it was unsurprising. It's obviously going to be kind of horrifying. I think some of the estimates are, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:53 anywhere from like 10 to 17 million people are going to lose health care, 9 million people losing food benefits. But hey, at least ICE gets a massive, what, from like $4 billion to $140 billion? Yeah, which we needed. That's good. Because I was worried they wouldn't be able to, like, storm through L.A. anymore. Well, who else is going to stop the Furtas guy and the taco guys?
Starting point is 00:10:16 It's, we've been too lenient. With them, I would say. No, that part is very scary. Dude, the most fucked up part is I've been seeing, I've been seeing people talking, they've been showing traffic maps of Los Angeles. And traffic has been, like, kind of free flowing since for the last few weeks. And they've been like, look at what these fucking illegals. Look at what happens when they're, like, too scared.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I'm paraphrasing, but like, look at what happens when they're too scared to leave their houses. Look at all this, how traffic is flowing. Traffic's good? Because traffic is flowing now. And then one guy was like, I actually did the calculations. I've saved 30 minutes a day the last week alone. And he's like that totals to like four days out of the year that these people have stolen from me. Is there like actual data to back this up?
Starting point is 00:11:08 I feel like I don't think so. I think it's speculation. Because I feel like I've been driving and it's been bad. I mean, the past couple weeks I feel like have been worse than usual. but they posted them like during rush hour and it was like wow yeah it's fully green and my my drive down from orange county uh the other day which would normally take like an hour and 10 minutes going back up was like 40 but it's probably the holiday weekend too it's it's hard it's tough to say i have no idea i mean there's no there's no uh there's no denying that people are probably a good contingent and people are probably terrified in staying home i mean and i can't imagine how the i don't know i don't know I don't know if it made national news, but here in L.A., there was, everyone was talking about it yesterday. They, uh, we don't know exactly who it was. There's just some kind of federal agency was rolling through MacArthur Park with their
Starting point is 00:12:02 ridiculous military vehicles and then storming a soccer field. Dude, did you seem like, it looked like they were sweeping it for like mines or something. They had a whole line of them on horseback and then a bunch just like slowly walking through. the field. And then it turns out it was for... A show of force. But for like a commercial, right? Or something? I don't know. Someone speculated that they wanted to do a TikTok or something like that, but the only... Set it up and dance like everybody else. Substantive thing I saw was Ken Klippenstein had some, like, leaked documents saying it was some kind of show of force. They were doing like Operation Excelsior or something. Wow. I love that it's slightly sped up because it makes it look like
Starting point is 00:12:41 it's from the 1920s, or it did it first. But, you know, with this... America's Bravest right there. With this new budget, this could be coming to a town near you. I mean, dude, this looks like stuff you see in movies in like 1970s, Brazil or something. It's fucking crazy because it's like so many of us have been talking about, it happens slowly and then all at once. And it feels like we're on the cusp of the all at once part. Yeah, this is not. And to what end?
Starting point is 00:13:10 What the fuck are they do? What is the point to like, is it ultimately for when it comes time to, vote that they've just suppressed everybody and everything? Brother, I don't think there's going to be a time to vote. Dude, yeah. I don't know. But the cool thing is wait till they get the bigger budget. We can really...
Starting point is 00:13:26 Oh, yeah. We can really see what... Then we'll have drones. They're going to do. No, I... I don't think it's good. I also don't like the people joking about me getting deported in the Reddit. It is very funny.
Starting point is 00:13:39 So... People are saying that. Because there was apparently some guy who... No, we won't let that happen. Apparently, I didn't even read it. I just saw the headline. They were like, Emile's going to have to start speaking Jamaicanese or something like that
Starting point is 00:13:50 because some guy, some guy was born in Germany to military family. Just like you. And I guess he was deported. To Jamaica? And they were like, Emil's, amel's getting deported. Why would they, first of all, Wagwon?
Starting point is 00:14:07 Yeah. I don't think there's any, like, there's rationalities. I mean, people are ending up where, I mean, ending up, in a country you're not from is like... Get ready to learn Jamaicanese. Why would you call it that? I think he was joking.
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Starting point is 00:16:15 slash Bayes 50 off. Aye, aye, aye. Well, so maybe Elon's new party can help that. And it's funny because... But yeah, he's more pissed about the... He's pissed about the budgie. Well, the...
Starting point is 00:16:28 The spending. The A, the huge... That, you know, his whole thing was Doge and getting the government spending down and now this is going to add, I guess depending on whose estimates you're going by somewhere around $5 trillion. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:42 this, the Medicaid cuts, all this stuff, it seemed predictable. It doesn't make it any less horrifying, but the thing that's been so hard to wrap my mind around that I'm kind of with Elon on is some of this like stuff that's going to be so bad for American industry and just, it feels like suicide. And I don't quite understand it. This, this like complete turning their back on any kind of green energy and any kind of not only turning their back but like leaning into the bad shit oh and act yeah yeah actively trying to punish it and um it's it's bizarre it's so bizarre um these people are so vindictive in and to be clear i don't mean that in like a like a green peace climate change activism type way which like obviously we do need it for that kind of stuff
Starting point is 00:17:39 but like we're like refusing to participate in the next economic booms and stuff basically while China invests in all this I mean all the stuff we've been joking about about how like look they have all these incredible trains and all these uh all these new things they're the amount they've been investing is unbelievable and we were you know we're doing a little bit to catch up like Biden's IRA was um I think a lot of people were annoyed that it didn't go further but we were taking steps to do that, but this is a, this is a bizarre move that I just don't. And Elon, Elon's pissed about it too.
Starting point is 00:18:19 So while he's posting about all this like American Party stuff, he's, I saw him posting a lot of, um, posted a lot of epic memes, first of all. Well, a lot of like stuff about what China's doing. A lot of these like insane towers they're building out in the middle of the ocean that can create just like so much power. Dude, this is, I mean, I've talked about this before, but I just can't get over it. My friend in China, China vlog is coming, don't worry, one day. But he posted a video, he went to a dealership.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I forgot what brand of Chinese card is, but it's basically their Rolls Royce. And it's electric? This thing is so, it's so advanced and so, I can't even, it just looks so luxurious and so nice. And the price point was like 95. thousand dollars and it was just beyond like he's sitting in the back seat and you know the little the little lip uh where the the window goes down he rubs his hand along that and it controls the dimmer of the like tint wow and then there was one i was like oh is he like in a different part of the thing no in the back seat fully instead of like a privacy guard you know
Starting point is 00:19:32 full tv comes down and it's just it's be it's psycho yeah i mean that is it's it's It's, we made so many jokes, but at this point, it's just, it's great. I mean, it's not just like all the train stuff we've been joking about, but like their electric car industry. We were trying to keep up a little bit with like batteries and solar, which is, which everything was getting so much cheaper and proving to be such an efficient and much cheaper energy source. I just, it's like we're choosing to just like not take part in the next step and like innovation. nuclear is still on the table, right? They are going for that, which is something. Sure.
Starting point is 00:20:12 China still got us beat on nuclear. But yeah, I mean, they were kicking our ass so bad even before we decided to do this. So China installed 277 gigawatts of utility scale solar last year alone. America installed 121 gigawatts total. That gap is going to exponentially grow. They also built 41 gigawatts of offshore wind. America built 174 megawatts. Oh, that's not a good.
Starting point is 00:20:38 About 0.4% as much. And Trump famously hates when he thinks that they're ugly and they kill birds. Yeah, their share of the electric vehicle market soared past 50%. Last year we were 10%. We all know about their high speed rail network. They basically just built from scratch and covered the country. It's bizarre to just... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:59 It's hard to... It's funny. I was sitting there. being like, what is the plan? And I was reading the American prospect and they had this very good headline of just, is it the Republican Party a Chinese communist conspiracy?
Starting point is 00:21:13 Because it's like the only way it starts to make sense, you're like, what other... Dude, truly, I can't, that's what I, my head has just been, I truly don't understand. I'm like, how can anyone with a brain, a functioning brain and critical thinking skills,
Starting point is 00:21:30 especially in politics, the ones leading, country. How is there not, I, I just don't understand the mental gymnastics involved in, Trump Party came out and said there's probably going to start to be blackouts by like the late 2020s, 2030. And you're just like, okay, but why'd you, why'd you do that? Why? Yeah. And, and, and while everyone's screaming about how we're going to need so much more energy, like the AI revolution is coming. I don't understand. It's very weird. And so like, That's where I'm like...
Starting point is 00:22:04 There's so many contradicting things. I find a little bit of the stuff, Elon saying, about the American Party, um, moronic, but I'm shocked that more, that we haven't seen more kind of industrialists, tech titans, what have you come out and be like, why are you, why are you destroying us? Yeah. Well, Peter Thiel is to, I mean, he loves it. He thinks, I mean, I truly don't know what these people's plan is, but... Peter Thiel famously thinks that we need, like, we need a new king.
Starting point is 00:22:38 And people crave kings. I read that. I mean, I watched that entire... Look at Burger King. I watched that entire Ross do that interview. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The one... You sat and watched the entire fucking...
Starting point is 00:22:51 Did you watch it on one and a half speed? No, they didn't even... I was trying to see... So, I obviously looked for that. And they didn't have it on the New York Times player. So I was like, maybe they put it on YouTube, sometimes they put them on both. They didn't even have it on the YouTube,
Starting point is 00:23:06 so I had to watch it on one X. But it was very weird to watch, because I watched it before the Big Beautiful Bill passed, and so I find it even weirder now. He spends a large chunk of it kind of like crying about, he's just wishing we were, he's like, why aren't we further along? Like, why don't we have more innovation?
Starting point is 00:23:27 Like, why aren't we living in this great age of, you know. Abundance? Yeah. Yeah. And but then he talks about how like, you know, yeah. And so I decided what I had to do was back Trump. And I'm like, he's, he's actively destroy. I mean, I'm so lost. I'm like, it's, he can't connect it. I mean, he brings up past things. He's like, he was like, he was talking about how, you know, what a disaster. The new dealers were and all that stuff. But then he's like, he's like, look, I have my problems with the new dealers. But they at least knew we had to invest in science. And I'm like, brother. It's all connected. Well, I don't, and he talks about, like, Kennedy and the space program and stuff. I'm like, I feel like you're, you're so close. We can do, we can have a public-private partnership here.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And I think it's so easy when you're worth so much money and you're so separate from the rest of society and so isolated. It becomes very easy to just view society and everything in these absolutes and in these, like, well, why can't everything? be like running a company that's all it is at the end of the day and it's like brother no it ain't like running a company he's like off the deep end oh yeah and he looks like shit he looks like he's dying of
Starting point is 00:24:45 I would like to know they need to tell us what happened to it I want to know what does that to a person you can't just trot that guy out and not tell me what's going on he looks scared all the time he's got like fucking he's got zins in his mouth that
Starting point is 00:25:00 the rest of us couldn't even handle probably. He's got 20 mili vanillies in there. He's got some kind of news in we don't even know about. Oh, God. Yeah. Can you imagine? No, but I mean, he's on a whole, you definitely saw the clip that went viral of him. Ross asking him, do you think humans deserve a future? And he's like, well, hmm. And then he goes, yes, but it's like, wait. Was he talking about like transhumanism and like cybor? He said, yes, but huge pause.
Starting point is 00:25:29 transhumanism and Orthodox Christianity was like what is going on in there so yeah he's on a whole other trip but I mean also for me it's very weird like why
Starting point is 00:25:43 it seems like the Democratic Party was the perfect place for all these guys like they were ready to like I don't know give you everything you wanted it was just like I feel like I missed something was it all just woke stuff I don't that's the thing
Starting point is 00:25:58 I think, I think that's what it was. I think that Twitter, I think Twitter, I think Twitter just sent us down a path. Elon Musk got everything he could have ever dreamed of from the Democratic Party. I mean, Obama stepped in and saved the company, like basically made it. Everything flourished for him under these. I mean, look at the stock price. He's the richest man in the world. What else do you want, son?
Starting point is 00:26:25 That's actually a great point. These people are complaining about like, well i'm not getting enough yeah they're doing a great job i got my ice cream sunday but where are the chopped nuts god damn but so i'm with them on that i'm with them i i also don't think um we should commit national suicide i don't think that's like a great idea sepacu national sepacu um but i also i have a hard time uh you know obviously was trying to piece together nothing officials happened he didn't he didn't like i don't i think as of right now we can't like, I don't think I can like sign up for the American party or anything.
Starting point is 00:27:00 My favorite thing is two, two, the Tesla stock dropped 7% at the start of trading on Monday because this, this happened over the weekend. Look at that. Look at that drop. Bo boom. And number two. People were pissed. They thought he was going to stay. His whole thing was, I'm going to stay out of politics. Yeah. People were, Tesla investors at least were happy about that. And by the way, oh yeah, they were. It rallied back. It's really funny. The Tesla, just speaking to Elon's hubris and just his stubbornness, which is a major character flaw that I think Tesla investors and the board are starting to wake up to is his whole thing with the self-driving cars was we can do it without LIDAR and we're going to do it with cameras.
Starting point is 00:27:44 But now it's been popping up that some of these robotaxies in Austin have LIDAR. But there were a bunch of fake filings, like you said, with the federal. collection commission and my favorite thing is you pointed out some of them were registered to like random proton mail accounts there was one went snowboarding at yahoo dot com yeah probably just a bunch troll so a bunch have been registered but it doesn't seem like it's why and what's the point of that what the fuck do you get out of that maybe they think it's like a domain maybe maybe they think it's like pump fun you got to be the first one to get there i don't know i don't know or like uh what's what is that called domain domain squatting where you buy a oh maybe they think they can get a nice little pay
Starting point is 00:28:24 out from Elon? Like me when I bought Pinocchio. Triple X thinking I would be able to hold Disney Ransom. I do have to say, I think I... Like that idea? I think extorting Elon is a good idea always. But there are some parts
Starting point is 00:28:38 where I don't necessarily agree with his platform, but I don't necessarily think it's the worst idea. But because at first I thought he was going to try to run a presidential candidate, which he's not doing. But before we even get to that, so you have to piece it all together from his Twitter.
Starting point is 00:28:54 tweets. He doesn't have a real, but this is the platform he's saying. America's Party will be focused on. Number one, reduce debt, responsible spending only. So I think he would totally be in line with, and has said, we want to cut entitlements. I mean, this is the guy who was waving the chainsaw around. Which he then, speaking of the chainsaw,
Starting point is 00:29:10 someone tweeted him and said, hey, maybe it wasn't such a good idea to brandish that chainsaw on stage. And he, I got to give him credit. He responded, and he said, yeah, in hindsight, that wasn't a wise decision or a good look or something. Millay handed me the chainsaw and it went on on stage and blah, blah, blah. There was honestly quite a bit of, as I was going through his feed to try to piece together the platform, there was quite a bit of, I don't know, reflection or interest.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I don't know if I'd go that far to humility, but like introspection, because someone else was, I thought he was going to kind of pop off on some of these people, but someone else was like, dude, you got used. Like, Trump, you're an idiot. Like, he fully got everything he wanted from you, blah, blah, blah. and he just posted a little, like, sad emoji. It's like, holy shit. Wow, he's waiting, yeah. Okay, so we're going to reduce the debt. Responsible spending only.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Modernized military with AI slash robotics. Pro tech, accelerate to win AI. Less regulation across board, but especially in energy. Free speech, pro natalist, which is a crazy thing to have in your... Po natalist is just like have babies, right? A bunch of, yeah, we've got to repopulate. And then just blanket, centrist policies everywhere. else. Oh, all right. Which means, like, nothing. Okay, what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:30:27 He did. There's not much. Yeah. He did, I did like, just speaking of the sad face, he did tweet, what was the point of Doge if he was just going to raise the debt by $5 trillion? Exactly. And it's like, brother, it's the, what is it, the leopards ate my face party? Isn't that popular meme? We elected the leopards ate my face party, but I didn't think the leopards would eat my face. right i i don't i don't know it's we've talked about so many people now who have you know there's been a good amount of people who have kind of come around and and been like yeah i don't know i threw my lot behind him because i thought it was going to work out and it's just like he he's not he's not going to do any of those things i mean actually so i i should say some people are i'm sure very like those women who you know the old ladies at the rallies who were holding like mass deportations now so it's like those those ladies did the right thing if that's what you were voting for like you're getting what you want that's off to you
Starting point is 00:31:29 ladies yeah congratulations you should be happy yeah but so many of those people who are like I didn't vote for this it's like yeah he said uh the the speculation like you said is not that he's necessarily going to run a presidential candidate because that famously won't work um there's something called in my researching about this Duverger's law, which states that people tend to not vote third party for fear of splitting their vote. That's why there's such a chokehold on the two-party system. So it's likely that he would stick more to senators and representatives and keep it there for now. It's not a bad idea. Elon's move, target just two to three Senate seats. This is, he retweeted, it's one of his like fanboys,
Starting point is 00:32:18 target just two to three Senate seats and eight to ten house districts skip the national circus hit where margins are raised within he's pulling millions on X has an existing pack and could crowd source signatures quickly and easily
Starting point is 00:32:28 if he pulls it off could be the biggest disruption to U.S. politics in recent memory and the beginning of a new third party era I think this party is a joke
Starting point is 00:32:38 and I think a lot of these things are ridiculous but that's not a bad strategy and he's got the money to do it the thing is I don't know if he can pull it off he's torched a lot of his goodwill his last kind of foray into politics was the Wisconsin thing
Starting point is 00:32:50 and people pretty roundly were like get the fuck out of here dude and he spent a lot of money in Wisconsin and was like doing the whole thing of you know remember in Pennsylvania we're giving out like one million bucks a day yeah wow Jesus totally forgot about that
Starting point is 00:33:05 if he actually I mean 8 to 10 8 to 10 reps he bought could potentially mean the difference of not passing the one big beautiful Bill. Oh, I mean, two to three Senate seats as well. I mean, it was, it came down to a tiebreaker with J.D. Vance. So it's not the worst. Yeah. And I think people are so disillusioned with both parties, especially in light of the Epstein stuff, which we're about to get to. But I think that
Starting point is 00:33:37 something like this is just crazy enough to work. And, but people hate him. Yeah, they do. But, but, Or maybe they still like him. I don't know. I think it's very possible for people to come around, especially people on the right. Who have been so disillusioned, again, by this, like, Epstein shit, it's really bad. Trump also tweeted out or truthed out this long-ass thing being like, oh, Elon's going crazy or something. And all he wrote back was, I don't even know what he replied. It was some shit like, uh, do we have the Trump tweet?
Starting point is 00:34:08 I didn't read all that, but. Yeah, he did the meme. He did the, but. Or the Trump truth or whatever is. I mean, it's too much to fucking read, but it's, it's, it's, it's psycho. And then did you see what he, he said today? No. He said that Steve Bannon is in the Epstein list.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Interesting. Yeah. Can you imagine jerking that guy off on the massage table? Can you imagine jerking any of these guys off on the massage table? Yeah, I can't imagine jerking a lot of them off. Or just giving them a massage for that matter? Jesus Christ. It's not something I'd like to imagine.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Yeah, I don't know. There's, because he did the poll, right? 66% of people said they wanted the, I think they said I want a new party, not necessarily this party. Those two things are different. I mean, that's also nothing new. I think, I think the vast majority of people are registered as independence in this country, not. The vast majority? No, it's like 1%. There's like seven. Oh, wait, that's libertarians. Libertarians have the most. Just like independent, like, I'm not registered as Democrat or Republican. Oh, oh, oh, oh. I think so. I think you're right. I want to throw a couple stats out there for you guys just on the Duverger's Law. Vote splitting. Vote splitting from a third party exceeded the margin of victory in three presidential elections, 1844, 2000, and 2016. So a huge shout out to Gary Johnson. Wait, what is it? Vote splitting exceeded the margin of victory in 1844, 2009. in 2016 for the presidential election.
Starting point is 00:35:44 But wouldn't Gary Johnson votes more likely go to Trump than? I mean, I think it was that just his, the amount that was siphoned into Gary Johnson was substantial enough to, it weighed. A libertarians lean right. That would probably mean that Trump would have won. They would have, oh, maybe you're right. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how, I don't know how if a libertarian had a ranked choice vote.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I don't know how they'd go, but I... I think it was still just the fact that the splitting exceeded the margin of victory, period. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, there's that truth social post. I'm sadden to watch Elon Musk go completely, quote, off the rails, essentially becoming a train wreck over the past five weeks. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:36:30 He even wants to start a third political party despite the fact that they've never succeeded in the United States. Not necessarily true. Dude, it's way too long. He starts bitching about the EV man. mandate, no more EV mandate. I have campaigned on this for two years and quite honestly, when Elon gave me his total and unquestioned. Wait, that's...
Starting point is 00:36:50 Dude, not to defend Elon. It's crazy to say that when you were just on the lawn with these freaking Tesla's. Yeah. I know. Which would have forced everyone to buy it. Whatever. My favorite thing is about Ross Perot. So I actually have a...
Starting point is 00:37:07 Maybe I'll try to find it at some point, but I've got a photo of my... dad wearing a Ross Perrault, I think 92 shirt. Would it be 92? I think it was. Or 94. No, yeah, yeah, 1992. He started in 1995, the Reform Party. And I did not know this, but in 92, he won 18.9% of the popular vote. That is wild. That's fucking huge, man. Yeah, there's a... And he was on to something. Trump, and I didn't know this, Trump was part of... Ross Perrault's Reform Party in his fledgling 2000 presidential campaign. I actually didn't even know he ran in 2000. I thought it was a...
Starting point is 00:37:48 Well, he didn't run, but he started to. Oh. And he was part of Ross Perrault's Reform Party. And the Reform Party was focused on... And when you read it, it's like, this sounds so sensible and nice. It was focused on fiscal issues, term limits, campaign finance, and lobbying reform. I actually don't know anything about Ross Perot except for... Hold on there.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Hold on me. Honestly, that. I remember... Now, hold on. Was it Dana Carvey? Oh, yeah. Dana Carvey did it on SNL. Because he was allowed to debate...
Starting point is 00:38:18 Dix? He was allowed to debate George Bush. He was on the debate stage with George Bush and Bill Clinton. Right. He reached whatever, like, polling or fundraising goals you have to make. Rossboro.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Damn, he died in 2019 from Dallas, Texas. Now, hold on a minute. He's like a King of the Hill character. Anyway, then we had Buchanan and Nader ran on or were attempted to do the reform party as well um and so if you look at his Wikipedia page Ross Perot accused Republicans of sabotaging him and especially his daughter's wedding and then apparently because he was distracted with that he got called a quitter in the press and that like never left him he was always referred to as a quitter the media let him label
Starting point is 00:39:04 you a quitter dude the minute the media labels you a quitter you're done and then you had Jesse Ventura in 1998 Minnesota governor ran on the reform party. Didn't he win? Yes. Jesse the body, Ventura. Jesse Ventura. 9-11 was an inside job. And, yeah, oh God, there he is.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Holy shit. If you haven't seen Predator, go watch it. It's not the, it's not to Jeffrey Epstein biopic. It is an Arnold Schwarzenegger picture and Jesse Ventura is in it. But Teddy Roosevelt was also another third party. He ran in 1912 on the Bull Moose Party. After
Starting point is 00:39:43 having won two elections in a row as a dem, as a Republican. The Republican Party famously. Don't look at the screen. I have a pop quiz for you. What three presidents were independence? Were
Starting point is 00:39:59 like one as independence? Like sort of technically. It's just like what three presidents were like technically independence? Neither Republican nor Democrats. but like even when they so it has to be like post
Starting point is 00:40:12 one is kind of it's tricky but well I just don't know George Washington wait what I mean that's George Washington was technically an independent okay but all right I was confused because she said not Democrat or Republican
Starting point is 00:40:27 those are kind of modern constructions yes because the Whig party at one point was like a thing but Tyler and Johnson who both became independence because they were unpopular within their parties and they were both elected because their president died while they were in office, and then they were just, like, kind of thrust into it. But, interesting.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Anyway, you thought that that was interesting. And so, yeah, now here we are with this. I'm joining the party, okay? Yeah, we're joining the America party. Why not? Because I just love, I love centrist values. Yeah. I would like someone to explain what that means, when you just go, like,
Starting point is 00:41:06 and then centrist, centrist policies. for the rest. What does that mean? Yeah. What does that include? That's not a real thing. Yeah. That's what everyone should do. We're just doing like centrist stuff. I'm surprised they didn't call it the Overton party. I'm surprised he didn't go with a more annoying
Starting point is 00:41:22 name. I mean, it's pretty prosaic, you know what I mean? I mean, there are a lot of different yeah. Well, his whole thing, he's got the America pack anyway, so he's already on it. Sure. Yeah. Also, he apparently, you know, he was alluding to fixing some voting machines in Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:41:38 So who knows, maybe we won't have to spend that much money. Maybe you can just do a little tinkering with his... I'm hacked into the mainframe kind of shit. Tinkering with his doge broccoli boys. It's so fucking... I was going on his ex account. Sorry, Twitter. Because I haven't muted now.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I forgot, like, the dude even exists. I know. I had him muted, like, going through his timeline, I had to keep being like... It's like, this is from an account. You meet it. I'm like, I know. I'm trying to figure something out. Trying to figure out what the American Party platform is.
Starting point is 00:42:06 He posts his fucking his gaming stuff. stuff and is his name on there is... Oh, you mean Kekechius Maxis? Chequis Maximus. I guess you just don't love a good old-fashioned joke. Jesus Christ, dude. Kekius Maximus ranked... Number one ranked hardcore.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Like, dude, 4chan, you're really... You're really trying to claim 4chan shit? He's just like a giant child, man. I don't even... What game is it? I don't know. Some... Look at Diablo or... Oh, wow. He posted a full 15-minute clip of just him playing... Gaming? Yeah. You can't even tell.
Starting point is 00:42:38 If it's him gaming, there's no picture of him. Heckiest Maximus. Shut the fuck up. All right, I don't want to... God bless him. We'll keep an eye, and I'm very curious what congressional districts he's going to target, which Senate seats he's going to target.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Fifteen children, and he's got time enough to play epic win battle for 15 minutes. I would say if you're like a young progressive trying to maybe get into a Republican district where the Democrats are asleep, because they're like, Yeah, we lose every time anyway.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Let's just run whoever. Keep an eye on what Elon's doing. Maybe he's going to split a vote with the Republican who normally wins, spending a bunch of money on the American Party. Income some plucky, progressive. Sexy, sexy, sexy. So. We got to run on sexy.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I'm surprised he didn't call it like the sexy party or something cringy like that or like the epic. I would see epic more than sexy. Epic bacon. party. The epic bacon party? Man, I will say the lore on, I remember reading about the 4chan Keck lore in
Starting point is 00:43:48 like 2015. It really is wild. I can't remember the details of it, but I understand why some of those young men got totally radicalized. Oh, yeah. Just, just sucked in of like, oh my God, it's divine intervention.
Starting point is 00:44:05 It's crazy. There is also who knows, there's an opportunity for this this uh this friction between trump and elon to get much worse too it could um yeah if didn't we have that on our bingo card for the year yeah that they were gonna split up if god is good they will both somehow take each other down i'm just looking at that pendulum of justice and i'm waiting it's up there and it's got i'm like when's it going to swing back this direction i don't know it might have a little higher to go yeah it might have a little bit well i mean so with epstein this poor guy you know Poor Epstein.
Starting point is 00:44:38 He's not even around to defend himself. Yeah. I mean, here you had a couple. I don't think he has to be. I mean, people are, they're doing a great job for him. Yeah. You had this couple. They're so in love.
Starting point is 00:44:50 A fairy tale. Who's that? Love story. Jeff Epstein and Elaine Maxwell. Yeah. Beautiful woman. Totally. Just a babe.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I mean, I don't understand why you need to get massages when you got that at home. It's like the, it's like the Paul Newman quote. Why am I going to go out for burgers? Were they like fully romantic lovers? I don't know, man. Oh, okay, you're just... I think they had... I mean, I thought that they were.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Were they just best friends? No, I think they probably... I don't know. But I thought maybe I missed that they were like... Because they weren't married or anything. Oh, yeah, I guess you're right. Did you know that... You heard about that conspiracy
Starting point is 00:45:28 that she was like the most powerful Reddit user? No. Really? I've never heard this crazy. Wow. The U.S. slash Maxwell Hill. You don't have to pull it up because it's just this username, I mean, Maxwell Hill is the
Starting point is 00:45:44 username, was like the most, like the biggest Reddit power user of all time in terms of karma points and all that shit. Wow, I never thought about the most active Reddit user. Went dark the day before she got arrested and has not posted since. And yeah, wow, here we go. I did the process of scraping all of Maxwell Hill's comments I mean it's just
Starting point is 00:46:14 I mean these are just stats it looks like Yeah but last post June 30th 2020 Gilling Maxwell was arrested in Bradford, New Hampshire Yeah And some of them I mean some of the most recent posts by that account were pretty damning of Jeff Epstein Wow, R slash Epstein
Starting point is 00:46:32 Who the heck is on that thing? I bet a lot of people. People really, I never, like, really waded into the, um, me neither. It was too, I just didn't, because so many right-wing, like, Pizza Gate people were in on it, I was like, there's something, I mean, I know objectively from the documentary that I watched and everything that he was a, like, a pedophile sex trafficker, kidnapper, you name it. Had an island where he was. Had a sex island, a groovy sex island. The reason where I'm talking about, talking about it is because, uh, there's a huge schism in Trump lands now because of the promise to release the Epstein files is not going to be, is not going to be fulfilled. Another one where it's like, he just was never going to do it. I, I, I, yeah, because he's a fucking, he's one of the ones on the list. They, they, they, Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, Pam Bondi, Bondi, Bondi, Bondi, Bondi's the beach. I'm not going to give her that. You could be named after a beach. She's
Starting point is 00:47:34 No, she's not good enough. She looks like a beach girl. Bondi Beach is better than that. That's sacred to you, Wallaweb. These three, it is very sacred. It's beautiful. It's heaven on earth. Huge shout out to everybody in Bondi Beach.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Oh, also a huge shout out to that Australian actor who just died. Heath Ledger. No. Rest in peace to a legend. I forgot his name, but he was on that show, Nip Tuck that I watched. And he was just recently in the Nick Cage movie, The Surfer. Great actor. Nick Cage was in a movie called The Surfer?
Starting point is 00:48:00 Yeah. Yeah. What was his name? That was brutal. Scroll down. Oh my God, 1.8. Julian McMahon. Yeah, he died.
Starting point is 00:48:11 He's in the trail and he goes, hey, mate, you got to get out of here. You don't belong here. Something like that. Anywho, all these fuckers were like, oh, as soon as I get in there, you bet I'm going to release those, all that shit. Pam Bondi even said, the list is on my desk. And she got pressed today about that. The press secretary got pressed about it the other day about that. And her rationale was, I meant list like figuratively, like the whole package was on my desk.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I mean, yeah, I saw the Catherine Levitt thing where they were, she was like, if you go back and look at what she said, she said she had a list that she had to review, not that it was the actual list. And Trump, even when he was just asked about it, he said, are you guys still talking about this? Unbelievable. Unbelievable. You guys are still on this? He's, there's something impressive about it. what which just his like entire i don't know even watching that just making everyone else feel stupid for even being like hey you said you were going to do this and well you guys are still
Starting point is 00:49:15 he asks the reporter asks pam bondi and he cuts in and goes pam do you mind if i say something are we talk we're still talking about this yeah you it's just like the most impressive gaslighting i've ever seen in my life and the one of the big controversies of course is that there's like a minute of security footage from Epstein's prison that's missing. And Bondi said, that's actually an anomaly from the fact that every night it like, they have to redo it. It resets. And actually, so every night, there is a minute missing.
Starting point is 00:49:47 And we're going to publish previous, it's like, she said, we're going to publish previous footage that shows that a minute is missing. It's like, oh, so you could probably just go in and delete that minute and say. I don't know if you saw, but they, um, they, I saw this earlier. They, they did find the missing minute. I just sent it to you, Connor. Oh, this is going to be either real or funny. It's, it's, it's, it's, they found the missing minute.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Wow. It actually, oh, oh my God, is that Hillary? Whoa. I do, you know what? I also do have to give, um, you know. That's incredible. That's, that's a bombshell. I'm, um, not her, but like the, the story.
Starting point is 00:50:27 She was once a bomb. I am shocked that they didn't just, like, release this and go, like, it was her. I should lock her out. Truly. I mean, I would give it 50-50 odds that he retweets that. And tries to skirt the blame on her because she is the deep state. I mean, that's their whole thing. They've been all of these MAGA.
Starting point is 00:50:52 See, I said it right this time. Maga. All these MAGA guys are now just bending. over backwards going, listen, guys, this was all taking care of before Trump even got in office. The deep state did everything that they could. The people at the FBI, the people of the CIA, they worked together to delete everything. So then why isn't Bonjino and Patel and Bonn? Why aren't they all coming out and saying that outwardly? Why aren't they saying this was a massive cover up? And it was all, instead they're just going, yeah, we didn't find anything.
Starting point is 00:51:24 The official report says, we did not uncover evidence that would predicate an investigation into third parties. In other words, the over 1,000 victims with videos and photos and hard drives and all this stuff, they're saying it was just Epstein. Flight logs, all of it. He was just a big pervert and he liked getting sucked and jerked off by underage girls. He also did kill himself. And he did kill himself. And that was because of a lack of evidence. He was so distraught in his jail cell that there.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Well, no, there is evidence. There's evidence against only him. I mean, the guy loves to collect evidence against himself. You would think, you know, everybody. But they've all got their marching. I mean, it's very clear to see what happened. Like, if you just watch anything that happened with the Big Beautiful Bill, I mean, all these people, there was like, they had a group, Thomas Massey had a group of Republicans who were like, this is. We're ready to do it. We're ready to do it. We cannot do this. I mean, it's political suicide. When the Medicaid cuts and all this stuff hits,
Starting point is 00:52:25 they're going to have such a hard time electorally. And they were like, we're going to fight this thing. They all independently had meetings with Trump. They came out and they go, you know what? We made no changes to the bill, but I like it now. I think it's good. What did he say behind closed doors? Did he say, you guys don't understand this is my like 10 year?
Starting point is 00:52:44 Does he have like a longer term plan that we're just not privy to because we're just plebs? I would imagine there was some of it that was like I could make your life hell I have the full force of the American government I have the full force of the Department of Justice and the full force of the IRS what do you say we start looking into some of your business deals
Starting point is 00:53:04 what do you think we start opening up some of your campaign finance what do you say we start looking into that it's like I mean it's stuff I have honestly advocated for like when Biden was in office and he was having such a hard time getting Joe Manchin or cinema on board with some of these things.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Like Joe Manchin had so many corruption things. His daughter was running horrible schemes down in West Virginia. It's like, why don't you just tell him his daughter's going to jail if she doesn't. Cinema, Finema, Finema. If you don't vote for this thing. I mean, he knows how to wield his power. And it's very clear.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I think people are so confused. They're like playing the old clips. Look at what Dan Bongino said. what Cash Patel said. Look at what Pam Bondi said. And it's like, yeah, well, Trump said otherwise. And now they say other shit. I just wonder how this is all going to, is it going to be, like some people, when they have an abusive parent, they're not fully released from that trauma and cannot truly move on until that parent dies.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Is that true? Yeah, in some cases. And I wonder if a similar thing is going to happen, not only within the Republican Party, but just collectively across the country, when he dies. when he dies. We're going to have to spend so much American taxpayer money on these congressional therapist. This is bullshit. I just, sorry, just to go back to Epstein,
Starting point is 00:54:31 listen, we've all had our little... You like the guy. I mean, I just think he was... I just don't understand, like, brother, look, when... What is he going to say about Epstein? When I was younger, and I like, you know, I...
Starting point is 00:54:50 I'm so curious where this is going. When I was younger and I would jerk off, I would have such shame. Every turn, I don't know. Every... When I was younger, I would jerk off and I would have shame. I mean, we all did, right? Right?
Starting point is 00:55:01 He's nodding his head. Still do, brother. He's totally, yeah. He gets it. Yeah, we still do. We still have shame. You go, I'm disgusting. Especially if you're like, you're like, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:09 looking at some pornography or something. Afterward, you're like, God damn, look at me. What am I doing? Delete cookies or you, you, uh, close your private tab so yeah you close you toss the magazine whatever it is magazine whatever it is sears catalog if you're someone like jeff epstein didn't you at any point like you know you uh or like after you break up with someone you
Starting point is 00:55:36 delete your text you would think that he would have some kind of post nut clarity moment where he goes jesus oh i got thousands of I imagine he's a sociopath. Videos of me getting jerked off. Golly. You would think? I imagine he's a sociopath. Yeah, I know, but you would think that there'd be one sliver of a moment where he's like,
Starting point is 00:56:05 this is incriminating. I should delete this because it's me getting jerked off by the people that I'm sex trafficking. I just, it's mind. It gets much deeper than that, though. I think, like, the more you pull out the thread, there's all kind of, like, CIA and intelligence people involved. And I don't think he was necessarily, like, acting in his own, on his own volition at all times. I mean, there's all kinds of, there are weird moments throughout the years where he's been arrested on. Oh, and he knows that he's untouchable.
Starting point is 00:56:39 You've seen the footage of him getting interrogated. The people, the law enforcement people saying that they had him in custody and then they got a, phone call. Yeah, that he's intelligence, let him go. So I don't, I think if any, I mean, he might have been like, Jesus Christ, I'm in so fucking deep with the, I'm running a pedophile ring for the fucking CIA, what the hell's going on? Yeah, sorry, I got something stuck in my hair.
Starting point is 00:57:06 It's okay. But I did, that's too much. The, one of the scariest things I saw was someone reposted that, I remember seeing it when all the Epstein stuff was going. on, but Melinda Gates talk about, um, oh, how Bill, Bill, but the way she seems like so scared of this man, she said she met him and she was like, it was the most chilling, chilling experience. You know, it was also widely reported that Bill had a friendship or business or some kind of contact with Jeffrey Epstein and that you were not, that that was very upsetting to you.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Did that play a role in the divorce at all in this process? Yeah, as I said, it's not. one thing it was many things but I did not like that he'd had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein know then you made that clear to him I made that clear to him I also met Jeffrey Epstein exactly one time did you yes because I wanted to see who this man was and I regretted it from the second I stepped in the door he was abhorrent he was evil personified I had nightmares about it afterwards. So my heart breaks for these young women because that's how I felt and here I'm an older
Starting point is 00:58:22 woman. My God, I feel terrible for those young women. It was awful. You felt that the moment you walked in. I didn't realize it. Yeah. And you know, okay. I want to share something.
Starting point is 00:58:33 You let Jeffrey Epstein and he gave you nightmares? No, just speaking to how. Whoa, gee. What? My hair is flaking. It's on my shoulder. Jesus Christ. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:58:50 My friend went to a big party. I told you this story. Went to a big party a couple months ago. Celebrities, like big, powerful, rich and famous. Top of the list, celebrities. And she went with her friend who has a young Russian model girlfriend. How young are we talking? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:15 24, 25. Okay. And her friend with the girlfriend is approached by this very famous, very popular, successful, massively rich, influential movie producer. And she goes up to, like, talk to the producer and her friend and, like, try to get an in and meet this guy. And then, you know, he's kind of like, nice to meet you. And then after the party, she's with her friend. The man. The man with the younger Russian model girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:59:51 The friend has since exchanged phone numbers with that older producer man. And he shows my friend the texts from the producer. And it says, what's it like to fuck that girlfriend to yours? Which is just on so many levels. Like, number one, the audacity to ask another man that about his partner is insane. If you send me that text after you meet my girlfriend, I'd probably kill you. Yeah, I'd be, I don't, I would go nuts. And then you're that, you're that horny, you're not, are you just, I just don't understand it.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Hollywood's the biggest sex abuse ring in the world. I mean, it's just, it's, it's, those guys, those guys run on sex abuse. Oh, yeah. Those guys, look, 2017, obviously, like, flipped it upside down with the whole, stop pulling stuff. No, no, I had something stuck in my hair. I'm going to have you pull it out in a sec. I'm so, no, no, it's cool.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Forget about it. And you didn't see anything. Go on. Sex rings? Yeah, like, but like all those guys didn't just all of a sudden change. because those stories came out. I don't know. It's a pretty horrifying.
Starting point is 01:01:16 The most horrifying slash entertaining... Don't worry. I'm not conflating the two. But, like, the conspiracy theory is that in order to make it to the top echelons of society, no matter what... No matter what line of work you're in,
Starting point is 01:01:33 there comes a point where they're like, all right, now you got to fuck a kid. Look, you want this? You want this? You want this promotion in the construction industry. You got to fuck a kid. You got to fuck a kid.
Starting point is 01:01:44 So you would think, though, that like Elon Musk or any of the thousand billionaires and titans of industry out there would come out and go, they approached me and they told me that I, in order to make it,
Starting point is 01:01:56 I need to fuck this kid. And I said, no. And I'm exposing them. Like, why not just do that if that's really the case? You would have to imagine he's, I don't know. It would be surprising
Starting point is 01:02:06 that he's not on it. If the Simpsons guy is on it, Elon's not... I feel like Elon's too interested. He's too autistic. Like, there is something about him where I'm like, damn, dude, you're so close. It does seem uninterested in sex a little bit.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Like, all those women with the children, they all say that, like... Yeah, he just wants to make a baby. Was he, like, mailing them as calm or something? I mean, do you have a more efficient way to impregnant a woman? I don't think he was having sex. I think, like, like, whatever it is, 14 out of the 16 kids or whatever have been conceived
Starting point is 01:02:38 outside of intercourse I think I think like some of these women he hasn't even met he's just like can I mail you it please can I fucking mail you it can I mail you my cum please
Starting point is 01:02:51 please let me fucking mail you it that's the sex to him he doesn't really yeah he gets off on other things the gaming the power you agree he gets up on gaming he clearly gets off on
Starting point is 01:03:05 the lengths he's gone to proven that he can actually game Do you think he's one of those guys who, like, sticking those metal rods up his urethra? You know, I haven't thought... I bet he's tried it. I only just found out about that. Brother, get with the program. Do you remember where I found out about it?
Starting point is 01:03:21 No. In Austin. Oh, yeah, that's right. We were in a... Oh, I've known about it. We were in a... I was having the time of my life. I was learning about so many things.
Starting point is 01:03:32 We were in a gay sex store, and I would just look at something. I'd go, well, what do you do with this thing? I don't even... You stick it up your... you're right some guys are in that i finally think i'm so sorry i keep asking your questions but like what what do you do with this one and he was like yeah you just i was like oh and some of them are quite large yeah i mean so you think he could be one of those guys i definitely think that he's explored the limits of um hey we might not know what's considered pleasure and pain we could
Starting point is 01:03:58 potentially be one of those guys i've never tried it uh yeah i remember reading about a guy who did it with a long wax rod in it broke in half long wax rod like instead of it metal. He did it with wax, and then it broke off inside of his dick hole. Yeah. I mean... That's something for you to think about. Wax isn't even that... I don't know. It's a crazy... Hey, man, I'm just reporting the news here. Well, speaking of mysteries, I thought this would be a fun note to go out on.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Over the weekend, the Bitcoin world went absolutely nuts with speculation. They're always going absolutely nuts, aren't they? I mean, dude, between Epstein and this, these are some of my... my favorite things to just think about because it's such a it's such a huge mystery that we're actively living through who these mystery billionaires are totally nobody knows who these people are i think that's what drives me crazy about it and which is why sometimes i'm like i i feel like i have the propensity to be like i'll be a crazy guy where people will be like me you got to like you got to come back to reality like you know i've lost myself in like jfk stuff and so that's why i was
Starting point is 01:05:06 like, okay, I'll, I'll fucking look through the binoculars at the, but it's, they're never going to tell us. And we're all going to, I mean, the mounting evidence that will drive you crazy is, you can't get lost on it. Well, so picture this. It's, uh, it's 14 years ago. You bought 80,000 bitcoins between 78 cents and $3.37. You got over a hundred thousand times return on your money. And that 80,000 Bitcoin is now worth 8.69 billion. And people were seeing that that Bitcoin was thought to be just like lost or burned or whatever because it hadn't moved in 14 years. And then all of a sudden, in 10,000 Bitcoin chunks, it got moved to not to exchanges because people were speculating that it was some like longtime whale who was about to
Starting point is 01:06:02 start dumping it wasn't the case the speculation was that and it's all speculation one some people say that it was just uh some original early early early minor i'm not talking about someone under the age of 18 talking about someone who was mining bitcoin because according to the blockchain it was like blocks that were awarded to that person for doing mining um speculation that it was being moved to a more secure wallet which is like you did it after 14 years you would think that there'd be There was also speculation. Oh, that, I don't know. What?
Starting point is 01:06:36 You were saying that someone wrote a long piece about how, like, that, that price is not moving anymore. And it really, like, this, this kind of, I think we're just. Oh, but it's really not moving. I'm like, it's consolidating. I was telling you, I was so pissed because I almost bought in again at 100. And it's been at, like, 108 for, I've never seen it so stable. Yeah, honestly. I picked up some Ethereum today.
Starting point is 01:07:00 I'm going to buy some more. because at this point it's been 14 years I mean it's just it's probably just gonna keep going but the head of coin the head of product at Coinbase speculated that it might be a hack
Starting point is 01:07:14 because there was some kind of evidence that there was a test there was a I don't know how the hell he determines this my favorite though was there's some people in China who say it's someone named
Starting point is 01:07:25 fried cat that's this guy's monitor his name is Zhang Xinju Jun chingu, who crowdfunded. In 2012, this kid was like 15, and he crowdfunded, he did the crowd fund under the name, Fried Cat, to buy a bunch of, or to create some minor things. And apparently this kid was once 42% of the global mining,
Starting point is 01:07:52 Bitcoin mining thing, and then just disappeared. It's just such a cool mystery to me. Who are these mystery billionaires out there? It must feel so good to just be sitting out just going, fuck, man. Every day, you're just got to be... How do I learn how to hack? How do I learn how to get this guy's stuff? I don't think we can...
Starting point is 01:08:09 Am I too far behind the curve? Go to Russia, dude. To become a hacker. Some hackers in Russia are like North Korea. Every day I... Every day, I lament missing out. You know, I... It was only 14 years ago.
Starting point is 01:08:23 We were full-grown adults. That's, well, that's what hurts. We fully had the opportunity to participate in all of this. the guys honestly those stories about the guy who like goes to the dump the dump to look through it for the hard drive or whatever
Starting point is 01:08:38 where he had his that's worse that it's something I don't think I'd be able to handle I don't think I'd be able to handle it too every day I'd be like it's it would consume me yeah there were I mean there were guys
Starting point is 01:08:52 that I just wish that I had known to follow like there's this one guy whose name I can't remember his name it's something eight like, oh, God, but he's got like two million Twitter followers now, and he's one of the earliest Bitcoin enthusiasts, been posting about it, making videos about it for forever. And it's wild to look back at some of these guys just posting videos to YouTube going, I beg you, just take a couple hundred dollars and buy some Bitcoin. If you think I'm wrong, then make a wager against me by just buying some and see what happens. I don't know if I would have bought it, but
Starting point is 01:09:28 The pitch at that time didn't really seem like, now people talk about it like it's digital gold. Like it's this thing that accrues value. But at the time, people were like, this is going to be the new currency. Yeah, that part lost me. You're idiot. And I don't think that's ever, maybe it won't come true. I don't know. And maybe I just completely wafted it.
Starting point is 01:09:49 But I'm like, I don't know, man. I don't think so. If it was a straight up, if they had pitched it to me back then in terms of it being like a stock and it being a supply and demand. thing. There's only a fixed amount. There will only ever be 21 million of these things to split among everybody in the world. I still probably wouldn't have bought. Well, I probably would have bought. I probably would have had it on Mount Gox, as I've said countless times. And then when Mount Gox went under it, it would have just been gone. And I would have been
Starting point is 01:10:15 like just, oh, God, fuck me. Anyway, this is a good place to. Shout out to that poor guy digging through the dump. I mean, I'll, like, I'll see a pair of pants or something that I bought, thinking that I was going to wear them and that I spent like $80 on and I'll go like, look at you, you wasted $80. That stuff eats me alive, imagine. I got several of those pants too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:39 $120 pants. This is going to change my life. I'm actually... And then someone told me, those are like skinny jeans and I haven't worn any of them. Here I thought that they fit me real well, these pants that I bought. It is embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:10:52 I've definitely had things where I like war when I was single that I put on when you're with a romantic partner and they go like oh that's not and you go oh weird sorry I used to think this was a cool everybody's dressing like cowboys but yeah two million everybody I don't know dude everybody's everybody's dressing like cowboys
Starting point is 01:11:17 I can't keep up I don't know what's hot anymore with that's good dude the worst thing is look if you're I don't want to get caught in the trends you're right If you're 24, have at it. Chase trends. Go down to Dime Square. Have the time of your life. Guy who's our age, it's like, buddy. Stop.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Go, seek help. You look crazy. You should have a kid. Stop this. What do you guys think? Why don't you leave a comment? What do you think? What do you want to, what do you dress us up?
Starting point is 01:11:46 What would you have me wear? Help me. I don't know what to wear. Dress us. Dress us now. Someone did send me an AI thing that it's like you, I don't know. You pop in like, I want to be a cool guy who looks good or whatever.
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Starting point is 01:13:38 Coming up on this week's episode of Ben and Emielshow.com. No. His uncle. His uncle. Look at that guy. Yeah, that's my cousin. Goodness gracious, great balls of cousin. Goodness gracious
Starting point is 01:13:53 That is my cousin I dream my cousin when I saw her there She is the daughter of my bass player there My bass player's my uncle But I don't care Goodness gracious That is my cousin This is the first real canceling
Starting point is 01:14:07 Jerry Lee's career suffered A major setback as a result of the scandal Concerts were canceled Radio stations banned his music And he faced public backlash I kind of Do you think it was because it was his cousin Or because he was 13?
Starting point is 01:14:19 I know I feel like he could have gotten away with one, but it was the double whammy of like, someone was like, did you hear about Jerry Lee Lewis? And they'd go, what? And the other person would go, he married his cousin. They'd go, I don't care. And then they'd go, she's 13.
Starting point is 01:14:31 And they go, cancel. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Defenders of billionaires will say. They'll say that kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah, he truly went to the investors and said, but she crazy, what are what to say? I'm going to start Amazon.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Damn, dude, imagine your stepson being like, can I have half a million dollars? And you're like, for books? And he's like, they have a lot of skews.

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