The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 118: Charlie Kirk, Groypers, and the Disintegration of Politics

Episode Date: September 18, 2025

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My brain has been scrambled. I'm going to be honest with you. Except for mine. There used to be a time when I... Somebody side up is mine. There used to be a time when I knew what was going on. I'm confused. Wow.

Seven to ten minute videos I saw creators put out of like, okay, here's the difference between Charlie Kirk fans and Groopers. Groypers and the Black Pill Movement, and you just say, what the f***. Like, no one knows... I think that there is probably some inspiration from Groypers. Which will explain. Don't worry, Mom. It's also very funny to me.

I want to show you this because there's, like, there's comments. Whoa, what's with these weird pictures you got up on there? He's got a kind of weird stuff. If they've posted it verbatim how it is texted, I'm just surprised to see a 22-year-old using commas. That's how you text. Are you kidding? Okay. Hey, Emil, are you ready to shoot?

Yes, period. But I am running late. Right, which is why I found it so odd, because people make... Please unlock the door, comma, as I will be arrived. shortly period thank you for your attention dude oh wow are you ready today today yeah i'm i'm sleepy let's do something else yeah you guys want to can you hit the nipple thing to bottom in

Maybe we can go to a movie or something Yeah Oh, I've been going to so many things lately Jesus, I'm tired No, I did I did leg exercises today Oh man We got a we got a banger of an episode

For you guys today We're going to be talking all about Politics Are we? Yeah Oh, you're messing with me I will say though I don't even know

My brain has been scrambled I'm going to be honest with you As I mean everybody's brains have scrambled except for mine there used to be a time when i sunny side up is mine there used to be a time when i knew what was going on mm-hmm you just don't feel it i'm confused wow um i mean brother i hear you brother hey man and i like knowing what's going on yeah it confuses me to not i feel bad and scared there was a time when i knew what was going on when in the early 20 teens 20 10s? Yeah. And because I was in my car a lot and listening to a lot of news and a lot of

news related podcasts and stuff. But then I just got so burnt out on political discourse that I was just. And who would have thought it would have got, it got worse, got 10 times worse. Oh, I mean, that was like, I would do anything to go back to the 2010's, cut and dry. I'd bop around between NPR and Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin. And, yeah, and I would just get so effing. Marklevin's the scariest guy in the world. Oh, yeah. He's evil.

He's the little, he's the little, smarmy bald guy with the beard. Mark Levine. There was another guy who did Savage Nation. Savage Nation. Who's that? Savage Nation. It's not Fred Savage. No.

Michael Savage. Oh, God, yeah. I mean. Jesus, God, these effing people, man. These guys are just... But that's what we're going to... Well, we'll start with... We'll start with Nepal.

The Nepalese. Should we start with Nepal after... There's so much stuff happening right now. Yeah. I literally looking into Nepal... It is interesting. It is interesting. It is a bummer for the people that died.

okay been at a memorial it's a bummer for the people who died yeah uh Nepal of course the country that uh do be having the tallest mountain in the world Mount Everest but yeah we're basically trying to talk about how incomprehensible politics has become and I do think it's only going to get worse um just I think just today a bunch of things I've been released um kind of uh that are in contention with each other regarding Tyler Robinson. What are they? There's the official

indictment. And then there's the there's some reporting from Ken Klippenstein talking about have you seen that about the Discord chats that were leaked to him? No. Have you seen the, have you read

what he's been charged with Tyler Robinson? Yeah, he's been charged with aggravated murder. Yeah. And they're seeking the death penalty. Which is something that Charlie Kirk was against as a Christian. Was he? Yep.

He was talking about how we need to get kids to go to public executions. That's strange because I could swear that they said on the radio that he was against public... He was against capital punishment. There's video of him and his friends, you know, all these weirdos. I don't know who they are talking about... What age do you think we should start letting these kids go watch these public executions? It obviously would be good for them, but you don't want to... Charlie Kirk, death penalty.

See if you can find the clip of him talking about public executions. Oh, you search Charlie Kirk death penalty. All you're getting is stuff about Tyler Robinson. Here's to you, Mr. Robinson. No, public executions. Well, it's also going to be impossible to find because, yeah, it's all about the death penalty for him. But yeah, so they have... We should do the death penalty.

penalty you you screw up bad enough we're going to take away you're hearing oh deaf penalty that is that's funny yeah you got the blind penalty and the deaf penalty god can you imagine the relief that would uh wash over you if you'd committed some horrible crime and they were like we sentenced you to that death penalty and your and your lawyers like and you freak out and your lawyer's like no no relax it's the death penalty and then you're like whew but then it goes it turns again and they're like yeah they're going to hammer out your eardrums no They're going to give you, they're going to numb it out with a local anesthesia. No.

And then they're not going to give you any opioids afterward. And you got to walk around death. No. Better than death. True. Now you've got to learn sign language. No. Anything but sign language.

Geez. Well, anyway, they have some testimony from his mother stating that he was, You know, he was always pretty even keeled, and then he started to lean more left, becoming more pro-gay and trans-oriented, and that Robinson began to date his roommate. This is from the, this is from the prosecutors, a biological male who was transitioning genders, resulted in several discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and his father, who have very different political views. In one conversation before the shooting, Robinson mentioned that Charlie Kirk would be. holding an event at UVU, which Robinson said was a stupid venue for the event and he accused Kirk of spreading hate.

But they have texts from, I mean, this is... They have texts from Discord? No, this is, I believe, from just their texts. Who's texts? Between the roommate and Robinson. Oh, got it, got it.

And apparently his lover. Yeah, their text messages. On September 10th, 2025, the roommate received a text message from Robinson, which said, drop what you're doing, look under my keyboard. The roommate looked under the keyboard and found a note that stated, I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it. And so apparently this has been destroyed, but police found a photograph of this note.

This whole thing's very strange. I mean, and none of these have been released anywhere. It's just typed up. It's just typed up. And then it's the following text exchange then took place. It's a little long. After reading the note, the roommate responded, what? you're joking right

a hundred question marks on all those because by then the news is already out yes that he had died Robinson I am still okay my love but I am stuck in OREM orum for a little while longer yet

shouldn't be long until I can come home but I got to grab my rifle still to be honest I'd hope to keep this secret till I died of old old age I'm sorry to involve you roommate you weren't the one who did it right Robinson I am I'm sorry roommate i thought they caught the person no they grabbed some crazy old dude then interrogated someone in

similar clothing i had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after but most of that side of town got locked down it's quiet almost enough to get out but there's one vehicle lingering why why did i do it yeah i had enough of his hatred some hate can't be negotiated out if i'm able to grab my rifle unseen i will i will have left no evidence going to attempt to retrieve it again hopefully they have moved on i haven't seen anything about them finding it long have you been planning this a bit over a week i believe wow that's it i can get i can get close to it but there's a squad car parked right by it i think they already swept by that spot i don't want to chance it it's also very funny to me i want to show you this because there's like there's comments

well what's with these weird pictures you got up on there he's got a kind of weird stuff there's i i can't tell if this is if they've posted it verbatim how it's texted okay I'm just surprised to see a 22-year-old using commas. You know what I mean? And I don't know. It just seems very... Yeah, true. I don't know.

Maybe he was on a laptop and was very... That's like how my dad texts. You know, like very proper... That's how you text. Are you game? Okay. Hey, Emil, are you ready to shoot? Yes, period.

But I am running late. Right, which is why I found it so odd, because people... Please unlock the door, comma, as I will be arriving shortly, period. thank you for your attention. This is why I find it so all because people make fun of me for it. I'm like, there's no way a 22-year-old is... I don't know. Maybe this guy was a lot like you.

Wait, what? Man, can you imagine if one of his top podcasts was this show? That would put us on the map. That would be unfortunate. I mean, I think it would be good publicity. Could be good for us. We'd go on... I'd go on Fox and be like,

man. But this is kind of my point. This is rough. I wouldn't be surprised let me finish this and then we'll get it. So he said he's been planning for a little over a week and he's still worried about the cars that are parked near and he wants to go get the rifle. Why does he need the rifles so bad? To hide the evidence? Because apparently

it's a weird rifle. It's his grandpa's rifle. Oh. And they did find his DNA on the trigger. It's like, brother, wear gloves. I know. That's the thing is I don't know what to believe anymore. So he says, I'm wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle. I'm worried what my old man would do if I didn't bring it back, grandpa's rifle. I don't even know if it had a serial number, but it wouldn't trace to me. I worry about prints. I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits.

They didn't have the ability or time to bring it with. I might have to abandon it and hope they don't find prints. How the fuck will I explain losing it to my old man? Only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel. Remember how I was engraving bullets? The fucking, wait, remember how I was engraving bullets? The fucking messages are mostly a big meme. If I see notices, bulge, oo-woo on Fox News. I might have to I might have a stroke. All right, I'm going to have to leave it. That really fucking sucks. Yeah, this, these, I mean,

it's like he's, uh, I haven't seen the Sopranos, but I know that that one guy is an informant and goes like, hey, what's the deal with that money that we're laundering? Tony, what's up with that money we're laundering? You know, at the money laundering joint that we own, it feels very on the nose of like,

man, those bullets that I carved those messages into. I didn't have time. That's what's so weird. And this last part, it just... These are from the prosecutors? This is, well, this is the... This is from Clippinstein.

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Yeah, this is, to quote a 22-year-old, this is suss. It is, I mean, so Ken Klippenstein, and we're not going to go through it all, but basically he got leaked messages from his friends who were in his Discord chat, and he searched through them all, and it just kind of reveals a picture of a kid who just seems largely apolitical.

It's very odd. He's a gamer. Yeah. He see, I mean, there's left and right and center, and then there's gamers. Truly. But I do think it's, I think it's more indecipherable than we can imagine. I think on Friday when we were doing the live stream, everyone was pointing towards this Groyper thing. Yeah.

Which I think that there is probably some inspiration from Groypers, which we'll explain. Don't worry, Mom. You think he is. I think he's got some Groyper influence for sure. Yeah. And it is interesting. I just have to say, by the way. But he doesn't seem like a Nick Fuentes.

I don't know. I don't know. Well, that's the thing is it's interesting to me that according to the right, there are certain issues and cultural benchmarks that are exclusively attributed to the left, when that's not the case. Nick Fuentes himself is homosexual. There are trans members of the right. I mean, I can

Who's that one that's killed those people in Malibu? The Bruce Jenner Kaitlyn Jenner? Caitlin Jenner is conservative Oh, in the car I thought you were talking about a shooting

I was like, wait, did I miss Caitlin Jenner? Sure, and I think that's their one piece right now is that if it's true that he was by or in love with a trans person My point is that it's not exclusively they're in yeah the right is really really really they've just got it down pat they're so good at getting they've they've effectively been triumphant thus far in in the culture war yeah and i think that's what

i don't think we'll ever really know uh yeah i think you've seen the reporting that says tyler robinson is not cooperating with uh authorities which i don't know exactly what that means some people are pointing to that probably meaning that he doesn't want to go along with their narrative. I don't know if we'll ever know, and I think I think we've just gotten into this new

this new era of the It's chaos, indescipherable politics. And I think everyone using this left-right dichotomy or even even Groyper of

it's a internecine battle in right versus right. I just think, you're not going to have a you're not going to get the simple solution you want you're not going to get this easy answer and everyone's kind of desperate for it and unfortunately I think there's going to be real consequences for this this guy Tyler Robinson incoherent oh there's definitely consequences for him but I think there's going to be consequences for the country because of this like incoherent yeah killing uh so I I I think we should

talk a little bit about groipers, just so people understand. A groiper, first of all, spelled G-R-O-Y-P-E-R is the name of a variant of Pepe the Frog, which if you don't know what Pepe the Frog is, I mean, Jesus God, congratulations. You've successfully managed to dodge every culturally, politically cultural bullet for the last decade. And they call themselves groopers because in the wake of the 2016 stuff, they thought they were saying, Groyper by the Pussy. Are you serious? No, I made them on up.

By the way, if you're enjoying the podcast so far, give us a thumbs up on YouTube. Leave us a comment. It's very nice. So, yeah, the Groypers are led by Nick Fuentes, who hosts a podcast, literally, I believe, in his parents' basement. I think he's still in his parents' basement.

That's cool. He is a sexless, well, not anymore. I believe he's fucked and sucked a little bit, but he's a gay man. who is America first. That's his main thing, is America first. He is also blatantly, openly, racist, anti-Semitic. Anything that's not white Christian American, he's against.

I think that was kind of part of his beef with Charlie Kirk, was that he wasn't Christian enough, all this stuff. Yeah, he called Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, et cetera. I believe their term for it was conservative ink. conservative incorporated as to poke fun at the fact that they are not true conservatives they're just playing the game enriching themselves you name it uh but yeah there's with these groopers they're gamers their virgins their in cells you name it they are irony poisoned nihilistic accelerationists they a lot of them are i mean you couldn't if you were to sit down with one

you'd be hard pressed to get any kind of it would be impossible to get because I don't even think they know who they really are they've lost all semblance of any true identity it's difficult for me to honestly talk about because I just I have no they're like this it's like Bigfoot I don't know people say

Groypers it's like have you ever encountered one of these things yeah I've known one I knew Baked Alaska is he a Groyper? Yep he was there with Nick Fentes on January 6th And I'm actually glad you said that because I forgot to, I wanted to bring him up. So I knew this guy, just Google baked Alaska Trump, and you'll learn all about this asshole. Who was weirdly a liberal for a time?

He was at first, yeah. And then. He's probably the perfect, yeah, he's got a weird name. He's got a whole ass Wikipedia page. Yeah, I knew him as Tim Treadstone, but his real name is Entime, Joseph Tim Gionette. he was such a sweet guy and so eager to please and so eager to like hang out and make stuff and like make jokes and but you could tell that it's not that there was something off about him it's just that oh I can tell that this guy's from like a small town he was he was from some Alaska he was from Anchorage apparently a family of eight and yeah he just had this eagerness to succeed he was a fledgling comedy rapper at first and then was he had a big was baked alaska his rap name okay and he was big on twitter i do have to say that's kind of a fun rap name sure yeah for and he wore like

you know fake grills and glasses i look up a picture he's just he i remember yeah he released a song called the maga anthem and i oh wow this is is what he looks like. I think he did one called We Love Our Cops, too. Okay. And it was just, oh my God, he was so...

Yep, yep. And those glasses are a Groyper, those big glasses are like a Groyper calling card. It's part of their uniform, so to speak.

But yeah, this is the type of guy, just someone who's lonely looking for some kind of community. Lonely white men who feel

ostracized and who don't necessarily believe in anything and there's just something about this I don't know they're mad at the world they feel from what I understand what you just described is basically like every young

man now yeah it's a lot of young men like this I mean I encountered one at a well I encountered a young man at a party this weekend that was only similar in the sense that I was just like what is going on here

what are you doing It was really crowded at this bar, right? And there was one area where the bathrooms were. It was downstairs. There were only two, and it was full house. Some guy downstairs said there's actually a bathroom upstairs next to the bar upstairs. It's just like a door. There's a hallway there.

And me and my friend Dan went up there looking for it. We see the door. We see a handsome young guy. Must have been 23. Pop out of the door and like starts to close it behind him. And I go right. I'm like, oh, hey, man. we're trying to get in there there there's a bathroom in there right he doesn't even look at me he looks

past me and he goes no there's nothing in there and i was like there's i saw and someone else came out during that time too and i was like there's a bunch of people in there what it there's another guy told us to come here that there's a bathroom and he goes no the bathroom's downstairs yeah i think that's where it is this isn't anything i don't even know what's there but there's nothing here and i just was like what do you fuck are you you doing asshole what is this mental game you're playing and he was so handsome and like welder i'm like fuck you you you little piece of shit and this guy was a griper handsome no just the same kind of vibe of just like what's going on you're in a you're an enigma to use the trump word

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Well, but yeah, I mean, I just think. He hated, yeah, he hated Charlie Kirk. This weekend was kind of a rush. Also, I don't know, it just kind of made me sick, this, like, this discord, this, like, discourse thing of everyone rushing. The amount of, like, seven to ten minute videos I saw creators put out of, like, okay, here's the difference between Charlie Kirk fans and Groopers. Groopers and the Black Pill movement, and you're just like, what the fuck is that? Like, no one knows anything. It's the meme of Scarlett Johansson in the divorce movie where she's just...

Right. You know, just staring off, just... And obviously, all of these things are going to get even more confusing now, you know, with these text exchanges and the... I've already seen right-wing people using those as like, see, it was a leftist. We told you. And it's just... everyone is just rushing to they just want to filter it ours or not ours with us or against us what's mind blowing to me is how willfully ignorant slash under the spell they are of Elon Musk here you've got because for the longest time the big boogeyman is was has been George Soros he's funding the leftist violence below he's this foreign interloker interloper interloker interloker fuck

this is foreign interloper funding these things and trying to sow discord among Americans meanwhile fucking George Soros

is only worth a couple billion dollars you got the wealthiest man in the world up until a week ago with Larry Ellison but I digress

well speaking of sorry I don't want to cut you off you guys you got the wealthiest man in the whole world who owns the biggest communication platform in the west

did you see who's going to buy tic-tok no who's going to buy tic-tok a consortium of uh oracle anderson harrots and silver lake all right so it's just going to be psychotic black pilled billionaires all the way down every um that's why i was like wait there's just like so many things that just happened today that it's like uh uh i mean just all of these we used to joke like it's funny you were talking about 10 years ago

like the the 2010s or whatever it was it was a common joke on Twitter of you know oh I hate it here but I'm addicted whatever that was nothing yeah it was paradise it truly was you know I mean I truly just used to follow some

some comedians and some journalists and it was honestly a nice time on there what we've done to ourselves is psychotic and it's only just going to get so much worse. It's because of Elon's algorithm. Yeah. It feeds on human hatred.

Yeah. And now these, you know, these, all these platforms are now going to be controlled by Silicon Valley rules. I believe the deal is not gone through yet. So by the time this comes out, this whole thing could collapse. How much? What's the total price tag? 90 billion? I don't know the price tag, but I think the deal is supposed to work out that they will, those U.S.

investors will have about a roughly 8. 80% stake with the Chinese shareholders holding the rest. Let me see if I can find a number for you. Well, while you're doing that, we now have a list. There's a running list of, I want to say, like, 60,000 names of people who have disparaged the good name of Charlie Kirk in the wake of his death. And did you, I got, I don't know, someone must have doxed me or something a long time ago, because I'll randomly still get texts from right-wing things.

Wall Street Journal doesn't have a number. Oh. Did you see that Erica Kirk, Charlie Kirk's wife, is already doing a fundraising thing for his death, already using his death, before his body was even fucking warm, cold? Something about her really scares me? Well, yeah, she's just as, she's just, sometimes the wives of these guys are even more psycho. They're just, you think, I don't know.

man. I mean, obviously she's very pissed. Oh, I thought you were going to say pretty. Obviously, she's very pretty. Not for me, but... Yeah, no, not for me. I'm happy for her and Charlie. I'm not, because, I mean, he's dead.

But every video I've seen is just, yeah, her obviously... Just preaching, revenge and... They're going to come get you, bitch. You think you can stop a mama tiger, bitch? Right. I'm going to come.

get you just like a mama shark just using mama animals you know when you come up to a mama bear if mama bear's guy protect her cap that's all I'm gonna say did you see the video she did

of like his hands and his casket yeah and you can it's ASMR you can hear her kind of whimpering because she's and then just I love you so much imagine filming that so I always think

about that and i wanted to i almost wanted to make a tic talk about it when whenever you would see people posting their grandmother or grandfather's old wrinkled hand in their hand in like their hospital bed i've never seen that on social media someone's dying grandparent and they've got like a photo of their hand in their hand you never seen that bell but i can understand it yeah i can understand connor you've seen that before no okay all right this fucking suck It's a very specific thing. I don't know. I remember there was a UFC fighter a few years ago.

This is a bit of a contrast. His little daughter got killed in like a car accident or something. And he posted a photo of her dead hand in the hospital bed in his hand. And at first blush, you're just like, oh, man, yeah. But then I'm thinking, what did the entirety, the buildup in the aftermath of taking that photo look like? because he would have to get out okay i gotta put her hand in my hand it's a very

and then he opens the camera app and then it's on front facing camera and he's like oh shit oh got it just sees tears rolling down his eyes fuck he clicks one off shit the flash is on then he's got to like adjust it

and then he takes it has to check it fuck not good enough Oh, my good. I'm going to do it again. You can see my weird shoes. It's so fucking bleak. It's so gross.

Don't ever do that, folks. Don't take a picture of your dead anybody or dying anybody's hand. Unless it's the tiny child-sized juggalo coffin, then we want to see that. Remember that? Yeah, I do. Anyway, you know, it really is, I think it speaks to the division in this country that because I brought this up when we were going over the outline

even though they are not at all different things uh 9-11 the entire country came together left right center everywhere in between everybody for the most

for the vast vast most part it was a unifying thing and in light of of this assassination I do not think that if we were to have another kind of attack

a terrorist attack that the country would be united it would be an immediate witch hunt for finger pointing and blaming and trying to view it through the lens of this bullshit

culture war nonsense that we have just become engrossed by yeah if a bomb went off in New York City right there's because of illegal right it's my

They can't through the left. It's right-wing extremists. It's trans. It's whatever you needed to be to prove that those people need to be punished. Meanwhile, it's... Did we ever get... I just thought about it. The Trump shooter, is there a coherent narrative of why he...

I don't even remember how he died. Did he get shot by cops? Shot by cops. What about the vaguen? shooter. I mean, that's another one. I can't even research because it's so fully been dominated

by conspiracy theories that it's like, yeah, there's no way that that one guy would have done all that or could have done all that. And then I'm like, okay, so what's the fuck? Every time... I mean, it does seem very bizarre. And then the lack of... The lack of security footage and stuff in Las Vegas, the most

surveilled place in the country, maybe. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, Crooks. I see, I didn't even remember his fucking name. Crooks. Thomas Matthew Crooks. So, yeah, if... Oh, his birthday's coming up. Happy birthday.

Yeah, four days. Well, then this comes out two days. So, happy early birthday, Thomas. Yeah, there, we're, it's, it feels like we're almost there. We are almost on the cusp of getting it. And when I say getting, it, I mean, realizing that we are all being pit against, yeah, I know that we have disagreements about certain things, but for the most part, we are being pit against each other by the ultra wealthy, who are the real enemy. Hey, gang, we've got to take one more quick break to talk about hair loss, you know, it's not

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they're offering you know $20,000 bonus and a raise of student loan forgiveness Oh yeah And it's like someone said They just put it perfectly very simply It was like What is it

What does our country come to Where instead of offering these kinds of things For people to get into Instead of offering for teachers Or math and science shit It's no It's like Do you want to crack the skull of a migrant?

Yeah. Come on in here. God damn. And did you get a humanities degree? Get on in here. The fucking... We can wipe away that debt. Come on in.

It's... We're just so ass backward. And I mean, a perfect example of that is this Hyundai plant that's being built in the United States. And you probably haven't heard about it because it's just been one of a trillion things it's been dumped in the news cycle, but Trump's ICE administration is so gung-ho

and so blinded by like, get everybody who didn't have papers out of this fucking country. Hyundai sent some of its own workers to the United States to help this big-ass factory get built. And they were tasked with teaching

these... I was in Georgia, yeah. They were tasked with teaching these American workers how to work the factory. It was a battery plant. A battery factory that we fucking need. It was Hyundai and LG Energy Solutions.

It's a joint venture to produce EV battery cells. And yeah, hundreds of federal I think it was the biggest raid I want to say in United States history resulting in the arrest of 475 people. And it's like, what are we fucking doing here?

These guys have come out and told stories about how they were treated in the custody of ICE. This is a South Korean... I bet you can guess how they were treated. Yeah. Not very well. These are Korean nationals who are not here to, like, try to fucking pull one over on the United States government. Yes, they are. They're trying to replace us.

Yeah, that's true. All 400 of them. They're trying to orientalize this country. Orientalized. That's what I heard on some. Chineseify? I've been hanging out on Reddit. I mean, not Reddit, Rumble.

Mm-hmm. And I've learned a lot. Well, it's just so ass backward. It's like, what are our priorities? Because now we've, we just keep alienating ourselves from even our closest, like South Korea is an ally. And look at this. On the September 11th, 2025 news conference, South Korean president, Lee J. Mung stated, this could significantly impact future direct investment in the U.S.

Oh, you think? Adding that the raid would make South Korean companies very hesitant about investing in the U.S. And I'm reading some of these things on Twitter, and some of these asshole idiot morons are like, well, it's very simple. Follow the law, and this won't happen. It's like, I guess you've never heard of the phrase, you know, shooting yourself in the foot or in this. this case the dick i think that the the thing is everyone just has to everyone has to be okay with not knowing what's going on yeah stop trying to understand it live locally you're not going to understand it uh all of these people trying to just parse out what's going on they have no

idea what's going on they don't understand uh they don't understand these discord communities and like we're saying i don't either i don't understand discord fuck i don't want to uh We tried doing live things and people are like, you have to create a stage and you have to turn on the light in the stage. And we're like, I don't know what that means. And I mean, pretty soon, if this acquisition goes through with TikTok, it's like just every aspect. I wonder how the algorithm will change.

Yeah. Every aspect of the discourse is just going to be completely destroyed. I mean, Twitter is, you know, where people get. Twitter is a cesspool. Yeah, but it's still where it's still kind of ruled by journalists and kind of every politician is on there issuing statements. You know, Instagram is completely millennial coded and they're going to be able to, you know, they're very good about the censorship on Instagram if they see. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'd be trying to.

I did a joke. This was years ago after an episode came out of Trillionaire Mindset. And I think we were in the car. And I took a picture of my, of my hand in a thing like this being like, watch the latest episode or else. And it was immediate, it was taken down. And I was like, this is ridiculous. It's just a joke.

And then, you know, obviously boomers are on Facebook doing God knows what. And now they'll just completely rule the TikTok algorithm for zoomers. And I mean, these are just. Freaks, man. I mean, the video of the video of Elon Musk zooming into the right-wing Tommy Robinson. Is that the name Tommy Robinson? Yeah. Tommy, Tommy something. Yeah. The British provocateur racist right-wing. They just had a huge like rally over there. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Elon zoomed in and goes, they're going to kill you. They're going to kill you all. So you've had to kill them first. or something that's not literally what he said but it might as well it's not far off I mean if we had it's no better example

of this than the fact that he zoomed in from the comfort of his thrown high atop the hill to chime in and stir the pot and then watch as you know meanwhile you did you hear you saw Trump on Fox

and Friends that dog shit morning show where they sit on that fucking god awful couch and talk about stuff, right? Well, which one are you talking about? Where the host, the dipshit, asked him about uniting the country. No, no, she asked him about uniting the country. And Trump said, to be honest with you, I couldn't care less. Yeah.

I couldn't care less. And he said, that's awesome. Well, but he continued. He said, I don't even think, like, sure, there's violence on the right, but those are people who care about, those are people who care about law and order. They care about crime going down, and that's why they're acting out in those ways. And the left is just like this... crazy mob of trans fanatics.

We want more of those career criminals to stab white ladies in the neck according to them. But yeah, that's the... I mean, we have a kind of rogue... He's a perfect example of a guy who, like, everyone's trying to understand his ideology, and it's just

a madman. Yeah. He doesn't... I don't think he even knows anymore. I'm sure he's probably a little bit... I mean, there's some footage of him today out on the lawn getting asked some questions and he's just lashing out at people a reporter was like should a president in office be engaged in so much business activity he said where are you from and they said australia you're hurting australia very much right now i'll tell you i'll tell you i will

tell you about this to your leader yeah yeah he said the prime minister's coming and i'm going to tell excuse me we don't need to watch and trump said be quiet yeah he's quiet quiet you uh there's just that's that's one thing that i think is going on here is if you You just see how Donald Trump reacted to the news of Charlie, or when he was asked the day after Charlie Kirk's death. This is a young man who helped, who idolized Donald Trump, like cried when he got elected. Without Charlie Kirk, arguably, there's a good chance that Donald Trump would not have won the election. Do you think that's true? Yes.

He successfully, I mean, he rallied so many young people to vote. But he was asked, like, how are you holding up? And he said, I think I'm doing fine. Hey, did you see these trucks over here? You know, we got the ballroom going. And then that night, he's at Yankee Stadium jerking off the two ghosts doing his dumb fuck. Where they did a moment of silence for him. Yeah.

This guy is such a narcissist, I don't even, megalomaniac on such a level that he's incapable of feeling. You could probably shoot Melania in the head Right in front of him And he would go, you know, that's a shame She was a great woman And he just wouldn't get They could hang his two children in front of him And he'd go, that's a shame

They were my sons He's He's something is missing in his soul He can't do it And he has imprinted Or the rest have I believe a big chunk of America Has imprinted on him

And kind of taken over his fucking slovenly evil complete devoid of empathy personality trait where he's he's the one setting the tone for all of this he's like the fearless leader

and he's the guy at the top and he doesn't care about fucking anything except for himself getting rich and furthering this project of ridding the country of It's wild that during like a trade war and with China nipping at our heels economically and Russia kind of running amok that his number one priority is focusing so much time and resources and manpower on undocumented immigrants and other nonsense fucking shit.

It's just it's exhausting, man. I mean, that makes total sense though. That was their whole thing, right? don't blame us, blame the migrants, right? They're the reason you're unhappy. They're the reason you have all these bad things are happening to you. They're the reason you can't have good health care. We spend all this money on them.

But yeah, I mean, I don't know. It's all connected. Everyone keeps, I don't know. Everyone keeps blaming the algorithms and all these social media things. And we've been talking about it. And I keep seeing people talk about how we have to get. people off and it's just like, that's just never going to happen. I know. I mean, and I agree

with people. I read this thing. There was this guy, Cal Newport, who put out this thing, like, we know these platforms are bad for us, so why are they still so widely used? They tell a compelling story that all of your frantic tapping and swiping makes you a key part of a political revolution or a fearless investigator or a righteous protester, that when you're

online, you're somewhat important, doing important things during an important time, but this, for the most part, is an illusion. In reality, you're toiling anonymously in an attention factory, while billionaire overseers mock your efforts and celebrate their growing net worths after troubling national events there's often a public conversation about the appropriate way to respond here's one option to consider quit using these social platforms find other ways to keep up with the news or

spread ideas or be entertained be responsive be responsible grown up who does useful things someone who serves real people in the real world and i agree it's just i think people think we're going to like go back to something and it's just never going to happen we're going forward into something new even with i think people are if trump just dies if trump just dies if trump just dies we can go back to office or if we make 20 or we can go back to normal if if if uh in 2028 we can just elect another damn we get to go back to norman it's like we're not going back we're going forward it's something you don't understand and it's going to be scary and weird i recently watched eddington did you ever see eddington i got bored at first

the first time i watched it and then i turned it off and then i've been seeing people talk about how it's been um what's the word like it's it's kind of it now legitimized or something like that yeah something like that the violence vindicated maybe yeah i mean when i first heard about it you know see i i i hate myself because i fall victim to the same thing that i rail against i'm imperfect you know but i saw a bunch of people saying it's centrist slop and it's blah blah blah no i saw the movie and decided for myself which is what we all need to start doing more and more of But it, you should watch it. It perfectly captures almost what you just read from Cal Newport kind of like sums it up.

And yeah, it just kind of everybody just kind of collectively, it perfectly captures how everybody lost their minds by putting all of that 2020 shit into a small town in New Mexico where none of it is consequential whatsoever. But everybody wants to feel like they belong because they're all connected. via the phones and stuff. And they're all, you know, the young 18-year-old white boys who are like just lost and confused and have nothing else really going on. And they see, you know, they have a crush on a girl who's protesting. So they become involved and they become activated. But they don't fully understand what they're even saying and repeating and shit.

And it's just, it's very cathartic. It does have a bit of a, I mean, it's Ariaster. So it's got a real downer of an. ending. Don't tell me. I do want to watch it now. The whole city blows up. Damn it. A nuclear bomb drops. I also watched the long walk this weekend.

There's poop and pee in it. I do feel like there's been a little vindication for that movie Civil War as well. I feel like that people were so mad. I liked Civil War. I liked it too. People were like, why didn't they tell me why the Civil War happened or whatever? And it's like, shut up. I need like a clear cut.

And it's, if something like this happens, everyone's going to be so fucking confused. and there's going to be so many wrong narratives, all this thing. People are going to make of it, what they want to make of it. Yeah. There were some cringe moments, the like Antifa riots or whatever.

Wow, you were so epic. You took photos at the Antifa riot of 2025. It's not a perfect movie, but I did find the people's, it honestly feels very similar to this. People's desperation to like know what was going. Why didn't he tell me what was going on? Yeah.

And you see it now with everyone going like, uh it's this it's this uh i've actually just i saw a long tic talk where she explained black pill and groypers and now i know what's going on um and now they're gonna you know with the new texts released and they're gonna have to be trying to like insert what that means about his identity and no one's gonna know because sometimes there aren't any sufficient answers because sometimes just like baked alaska he didn't really believe necessarily in anything he just wanted to do whatever was the most whatever got the most

reaction out of anybody or out of people. He just wanted to be a provocateur just like fucking Milo shithead Yonopoulos that piece of shit god these people are just awesome I mean

no one is earnest or believes in anything anymore and if you do you get absolutely mocked and ridiculed for believing in anything and so I mean I think a lot of these people especially kids Tyler Robinson's age have been

just inundated with irony I mean I believe they call it irony poisoning on the on some of these chats he's been hanging out I mean these I mean no one's equipped to deal with those bullet engravings of

who notices bulge whatever which maybe I'll get made fun of for this because I'm not a gun guy. But like is getting bullets engraved a normal thing in the gun community? I don't think so. Because in my mind, after like this and Luigi and whoever, it's like, hey, if someone comes in to get some bullets ingrave, maybe just call the authorities. Be like, yeah, I got another guy. I thought that he probably did it himself with a soldering iron or something.

Really? Yeah. Or a little engraver. You know, it should be easy to do it yourself. to DIY that shit okay I don't know I assumed

do you have them engraved um I forgot what I was even said but because I got lost them well just the gamer thing and you're you don't understand you know why would someone go through the trouble of engraving a bullet

yeah these are people who deal in you know SpongeBob memes you could never even you could never even dream of understanding I've seen memes you can only imagine I mean, honestly, and you're going to try to parse out this person's politics, which I don't even know if they have a political platform. You know, or if they even, also at 22, did you? Did anyone have like a real coherent vision of the world? Well, I thought that I did.

Yeah. I just was like, I fucking don't like George Bush still. Right. And you're like poking around and reading things and trying to figure it out. And I was just walking around. Cal State, Long Beach, outrageously criminally horny, doped up on Adderall, just like, fuck, I gotta go home and jerk off.

Yeah. Well, that's the other thing. I mean, there was a, it was going kind of viral because like this kind of shit always does. And I did look it up. It's from the, it's from the Institute for Family Studies, which I do think is a right-wing think tank funded by, you know, whoever co-call these people

but they're calling it the sex recession and people are just having way less sex and I don't think that can be discounted no I mean not having sex makes you insane and I think I think we're seeing the consequence of that but it does seem like this man had a partner so maybe I just don't understand why

if I were in charge of this country I would just force people to fuck I wouldn't even be addressing culture war stuff anymore. I would just be going, you know what we're going to do, folks? We're going to, I'm going to, we got to build that. It's America's time. We got to build. I've talked about it before, weaponizing the autistic kids.

We're going to build an entirely new infrastructure. We are going to barrel face first into the future. And we are going to be on top again. And we're going to, all these public works projects and shit like that. And we're going to give incentives to young people to go into the scientists. and math and also guess what you mean you all been complaining about how expensive it is to have a kid everybody gets a free kid everybody gets free kids how do you make free kids no we'll figure it out well i guess you could just make it free to have them free to have a kid yeah it's not gonna cost

you a dime how we start with that yeah yeah make it make it so that it's damn effing affordable to have a child and yeah i don't know i but i think that's another i mean we're not going to get people off uh yeah we're not gonna get people off what we're not getting people off they're not we got to get people off no we got to get them off these social media platforms and stuff but yeah i mean there's got to be a way to combat you imagine if uh jfk was president now and during this time we air have to put a stop to these sexless young men oh he would be furious i mean that guy could not stop fucking these young men need to Come.

We need a guy like that. We need a horny Irish Catholic. Yeah. Who's just, Joe Biden was not our Irish Catholic. We needed an Irish Catholic who's just, who cannot stop. I just can't get over the fact that it's really not that complicated.

It's, it's, it's bots. No, it's really not. So RIP to Robert Redford, he did die today. And I saw some, if you don't know who Robert Redford is,

Or maybe you know him as an old man, but he was maybe the one of the top hottest guys. He walks so that Brad Pitt could run. I mean, so hot. But there's someone tweeted a funny story of when he was just doing theater productions and someone who is an actor who is in the production with him remembers a conversation that Robert Redford had with the director where he was kind of having trouble understanding his motivation.

And the director was like, well, look, so your character is trying to get the attention of this woman, but she just won't give him the time of day. Do you understand? And he was like, no. I don't get it. It's easy for me. I always get the attention. Wow, man. Speaking of all of this stuff, there's a really great video I highly recommend

to you guys. It's just, if you search on YouTube for Elephant Graveyard, it's a video that this guy just put out. It's like an hour and a half long video essay about Joe Rogan in... He's been coming for Joe Rogan for a while. There was an original one where...

It's the Comedy Jones Town thing. How comedy was destroyed by an anti-reality doomsday cult. And it just kind of speaks to... It's all connected, right? Well, yeah, so the first one he's making fun of his special Burn the Boats, which is very funny. And then the comedies are one. He's talking about how

Joe Rogan became the leader of all these people and now he's talking about kind of this ideology. Oh, and he's become massively influential and has kind of shaped the reality that we're in now. It did really bum me out the clips he has of people kind of changing, you know, the Duncan Trussle of being like, man, you got to be careful, you have this big platform,

like people are going to want to get to you, they're going to want to influence you, they're going to want to use you. And then him just fully on Rogan's podcast, being like, I don't understand why people don't like Peter Thiel. I mean, Peter, like, I met the guy. And it's like, whoa, it's just. Money corrupts.

But not me. You can't corrupt this guy. Actually, maybe you could. Why don't you try? Peter Thiel, try to corrupt me. Fuck it. Should we quickly, uh... Well, wait, I just, I wanted to just real fast talk about that.

Because it's all related to Elon and the bots. and just where we're at, it all comes from... Because, like, Elon, I mean, he talks about this in the video. Elon was bullied. I didn't know this. He was severely bullied when he was a child. I believe for doing things like calling... Sure.

Like, not to say he deserved it, but I believe that story where he talks about getting pushed down the stairs or whatever, he was talking about some other kid's parent dying and, like, making fun of them and stuff like that. Oh, I'm sure he was an evil little. little kid. I don't know, but whatever. No kid deserves to be bullied. I'm just, it's very telling that. Well, you get someone like Elon Musk who's got a major chip on his shoulder, daddy

issues, childhood trauma, and you get what we've got today where he's blind to consequences. He's immune to them. And he now has the capability to kind of shape and mold the world around him and unfortunately we live in that world that he is actively shaping and molding in whatever image he sees fit politics culture you name it and that you know it's connected in the web to joe rogan in the in the in the manosphere and the um the influence that joe rogan has he's now blown up and he somehow established himself as this trustworthy intellectually curious i mean i know how he did it because at first he was somewhat he felt trustworthy and was intellectually curious, and had these experts on and would ask questions

and was inquisitive in things. And something along the lines changed, and now he's, I don't know, he's fully drunk his own Kool-Aid, so is Elon Musk, obviously. And these guys wield such a significant amount of hole and power in the popular culture, in the discourse and I don't know how you I don't know how you go back from that and yeah in this video

the guy's just talking about how everybody around him now has to like pay their what do you call that it's like a tax or something offer a tribute yeah yeah I don't know and it's just it's a bummer and you know then

everybody's sucking up to him because he's so powerful within the comedy community and comedy is such a big thing in the United States and is such a pillar of entertainment and culture. Well, and the comedy scene has done a good job of self-aggrandizing and writing their own mythology of, it was, I don't know, maybe 15 years ago or something, all of a sudden, the stand-up comedian community

started calling themselves like the philosopher class or whatever, and they're kind of like our last hope and able to tell it how it is in their free speech warriors and, I don't know, it kind of worked a little bit. People really got into it, but it's gotten so out of hand. I mean, I don't watch Joe Rogan at all. So a lot of these clips were very new to me, but that one clip kept sticking out of him telling, I think he's talking to a woman, and he's telling her that he's like a scout for humanity.

And he's basically been sent out ahead. And so he's running up on the trail. He's good at sniffing out bullshit. Right. And he's run up and he's seen something. So he's run back to the group to say, there's a cliff up there. Everyone stop. And it's like, whoa, dude, you really think you're... He thinks that he's good at that and he sucks ass at it.

Because he's fallen, he's fallen victim to... Like Peter Thiel, him buddying up with Peter Thiel and fucking Donald Trump and interviewing the head of the FBI and the CIA and just like, what the fuck happened? man. If you'd shown Joe Rogan that 10 years ago, he would have spit in your face and been like, I'll never sell out like that. I'll never, you know. I honestly think what happened is just

push back from people who thought he was wrong. I think it's like, we've seen that with every person. I mean, it's funny too, because what we used to call cancel culture was mostly, I'm sure some people lost their jobs or lost opportunities.

Actually, I'm not, I know that. But for the most part, it seemed like it was a lot of comments, angry comments, people calling you things online. That you assume represents some bigger group. Yes. That's what the magic of online is. It makes you feel like there's this stadium full of people flipping you off. Right. And I think that led to a lot of, especially comedians, doing a hard reactionary, a different hard R reactionary turn.

And, you know, finding warmth and comfort in the embrace of people who are like, that's just a bunch of crazy libs. Like, you're not wrong. They are. And all of them have found, I'm sure it's very comforting. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And now we just have to live with the consequences of it.

Should we stop there? Do you want to talk to Nipple? Let's do Nepal real quick Because it is just another I mean I'm not going to sit here and act like I'm any kind of Nepal expert Are you a Nepal? I'm a big time Nepal head There's a and it's not just Nepal

There's a bunch of There's a bunch of countries across Asia Who are going through Similar uprisings Whether it's Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia and they all kind of seem to be from the same thread of an elite political class who is unresponsive to the needs of ordinary citizens I think it was the Philippines where you know there was a ton of examples of them getting them getting funds from you know

whether it's USAID or whatever for millions of dollars for projects that were supposed to help with preventing floods in areas and stuff like that and then just pocketing the money and not doing any of the work while people's homes and livelihoods are wrecked. But Nepal had a similar I think they were doing

like it started online with these nepo baby hashtags. They were you know obviously economically depressed population but and a lot of young people being part of that. Yeah, but politicians...

40% of the 30 million population is Gen Z. Right, very young, very young population. But what they would see is politicians and their children living these kind of lavish lifestyles, posting images from G-wagons and designer bags and clothes and all this stuff. That's how you do it, folks.

That's who's the enemy. It's not your fellow citizen that you may disagree with on some crucial things, but the bigger fish to fry is that of the leadership that is actively pitting you against each other. Because, yeah, everybody was calling out this inequality and the nepotism, and then the government tried to silence that under the guise of, well, these social media companies are spreading misinformation,

and they've got to register in Nepal first. But in the interim, we're going to ban 26 of these social media sites. people took to the streets. Which made it way worse. Oh yeah. Which was funny. Wasn't I saying on this show that I think that a big part of why there's not bigger upright. And it was like it was, it was almost from what I was reading about the social media platforms that I think so much of that they could be like a pressure valve for any of the energy surrounding any kind of mass movement where you're like, why am I to go out

in street with a sign and protest? I could just, I could just tweet it. I could just I could just do the black square post the story I could just post the black square did you do the black square I did not I did did you yeah and then I deleted it after 15 minutes because I saw that people were like the black square is so stupid don't fucking do it if you're white sit down and I was like okay I'm gonna sit down I'm gonna eat there late you sat your white ass down I sat my white ass down and I listened but as soon as they banned these apps and sites people were like well this is I got a I got all this political energy.

Yeah. And it's got to go somewhere. Sexual angst. So, yeah, they, people protested, 30 people were killed, hundreds were injured, the prime minister resigned,

so did most of the cabinet. The demonstrators burnt down parliament, Supreme Court, and other government buildings. And then they used discord. These young people used discord to have meetings

and held a kind of interim election to have an interim prime minister. minister until such time they can kind of figure out where to go from here. But it's exciting. It's not the first time. They've had two uprisings before once in 1990 and again in 2006, but this is the first one done by Gen Z, which like I said, is 40% of the 30 million population. It's been a ton of political turmoil since they got rid of their royal system, and it's been just their complete turnover of

different administrations ever since. New constitution, I think, in 2015 or something. something like that. But yeah, it's, this is just another example where I'm like, I just think things are going to, I think people need to forget about what they think they knew about everything. I think things are going to, even reading about, so they did, they ended up picking a former Supreme Court Chief Justice. Her name is a, so Sheila Karki. She's, Karki. I mean, I'm probably mispronouncing that, so forgive me. She's a 73 year old who's only going to be, um, interim prime minister. until they have their more official elections in March. But just reading some of these people

who also were shortlisted for the Discord vote. You know, you have Harka, Sampong, ooh, I really backed myself into a corner. I'm going to have to say all these. A social activist and mayor of Eastern City of Dharan, Mahabir Poon, a popular social activist running the National Innovation Center. Why are you listing these? Well, I'll tell you why.

Oh, okay. Keep going, sorry Sagerdakal, independent politician who ran against the powerful Nepali Congress leader

Shir Bahadur Dehuba Advocate Rastra Bimochan Tamasina also known as Random Nepali on his YouTube channel

who has been advising the Gen Z protesters. Crazy. And they're saying that Oh yeah,

here's another one. Baylon Shah, the popular rapper turned mayor of Kat man do as their choice for interim prime minister i wonder how many of these guys have climbed everest and this was just like wow so it's not dude the amount of people i talk to here like when you talk about 2028 they're like i honestly just think we need the rock and you're like what

it why what are you talking about and then seeing this that they're just like popular YouTuber popular rapper and you're like yeah maybe this is just i mean it makes sense it's the future that even people this is probably the most sane one and i still just don't like i'm sure you've seen the people, I think there's a whole Twitter account now of John Stewart for president in 2028 or something like that. And it's just, I just, I want to be done with this. But it's, we're not, you can't be done with it. We're not going back. Yeah. We're going forward into something new and scary and you're not going to know what's going on. I think, I think that's a good place to end. I think we can stop right there, right? We'll go into the bonus. I want to tell you guys about a

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So leave a comment, give that thing a thumbs up, smash that button. And then we'll see you next time. Coming up on this week's episode of Ben and Emile show.com Dogs don't get sexual pleasure. They're just virgins. I know. Kevin is completely sexless. Yeah, he's just a eunuch.

They're all eunuchs. All he cares about is balls. They're little boys. 12 to 13 year old. What does a 12 year old boy look like? No, don't. Private browse that. Private brows that.

And does it come with a warranty? It's like, no, bitch. You met me in a parking lot. What do you mean does it come with a warranty? Yeah. And then at the end, because he was asking me all these questions, he was like, do you have any questions for me? I was like, no, I don't care what you do with this.

Do you have the money? Yeah, just fucking Venmo, I never want to see you again. Yeah. Remember how great everything was before Jack and off entered the picture? Maybe just mass castration. Yeah. Yeah. God, can you imagine?

You get milked one time before, uh, before castration. So we can. Mom, I don't want to go to the mill. king all the kids are doing it it's a ritual yeah it's a right of passage instead of um i don't understand what they're going to do with my milk they're going to keep it in a vault we're going to keep the human race going yeah go get milked you're late it felt kind of good i don't think i want to get castrated too bad no yeah don't talk like that