The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 121: The White House Memo that Could Put Us in Jail
Episode Date: October 9, 2025Well it's been nice knowing you guys but according to the new White House Memorandum we violate quite a few laws and are likely subject to arrest and imprisonment. In this episode we'll go over the na...sty details. Give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed it! And please leave us a comment! It helps us! ***Ben's new movies and tv podcast with Dillon is OUT NOW! GO WATCH the latest episode on THE HIGH SCHOOL CATFISH here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC1wfcB6c2E **CHECK OUT EMIL'S LIVESTREAMS HERE: https://www.youtube.com/emilderosa Support us and get bonus content, ad-free versions and more plus your first 7 days free at https://benandemilshow.com __ SOME OTHER VIDEOS YOU MAY ENJOY: That's Cringe of Cody Ko: https://youtu.be/dTbEk0pVh2w Our AUSTIN VIDEO: https://youtu.be/yGSs56bFzRU Our episode with Kyla Scanlon: https://youtu.be/cIHWkY35cuc Big Tech is out of ideas (ft. ED ZITRON): https://youtu.be/zBvVGHZBpMw Arguing with a millionaire (ft. Chris Camillo): https://youtu.be/1ZUWTkWV_MM We bought suits HERE: https://youtu.be/_cM1XqA9n2U ***LINK TO OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/CjujBt8g ***Subscribe to Emil's Substack: https://substack.com/@emilderosa ***Trade with Ben at https://tradertreehouse.com __ FACTOR MEALS: Eat smart at https://factormeals.com/baes50off and use code "baes50off" to get 50% off your first box, PLUS FREE BREAKFAST FOR ONE YEAR! MOOMOO: Click this link https://start.moomoo.com/BAES to get up to $1,000 in free stock when you make a qualified deposit. Terms and Conditions apply. Securities are offered through Moomoo Financial Inc. (MFI), Member FINRA/SIPC. The creator is a paid influencer and is not affiliated with MFI and their experiences may not be representative of other moomoo users. Investing is risky. See full disclosures at https://invest.us.moomoo.com/_disclosure RIDGE: Upgrade your wallet today! Get 10% off @ridge with code BAES at http://ridge.com/baes #ridgepod __ Follow us on instagram! @ benandemilshow @ bencahn @ emilderosa Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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But we're going to be talking a little bit about N-S-P-M-7.
When I first started seeing it in the feed, I was like, I don't know, I can't keep up with all this.
And then as he kept talking about it, I looked into it and I was like, I mean, this show as a whole might be able to be classified as a...
We are bad boys.
As a terrorist.
Why, give me some examples.
Extremism on race.
Hey.
Extremism on gender.
Who else up late writing trans ideology on their bullets?
I'd be cooked.
I mean, the amount of donations I've made to the campaign candidates.
card-carrying member of the Democratic Socialist of America.
That's not really good for me.
But I mean, why not?
The benefits are crazy.
I'm even eye on some of those bonuses.
Those student loan forgiveness.
I'm like, should I freaking mask up?
Oh, great.
So now I got to pay for your student loan because you want to beat up a Mexican guy.
Maybe we should start having people report us so that we can gain some...
No, don't do that.
This is...
Some popularity.
I find this all...
I'll die on a cross.
Sorry, was that anti-Christian?
I'm working on time
We made it on me
Tell me what's going on
Tell me what's gone on
You want to hit the Tobata
I figured we made we would just freak it
You know
No time
Time is an illusion
We don't need it
We'll just podcast forever
Time doesn't exist
We'll podcast forever
Never never
Oh geez
Wow, no more beeps. Welcome back, everyone.
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We're going to be talking about, and before we even get into it, got to do a big shout
to Ken Klippenstein because he really
I don't think anyone would be even talking about
this. We're going to be talking about
N. S. Clippy himself. What's that?
Clippy himself. Is that what he calls himself?
I don't know. I'm calling him right now. All right, great.
But we're going to be talking a little bit about
NSPM 7. If you actually
go to Ken's Twitter real quick, you'll
see he's been
I brought this up, I think, in the
bonus last week. I was asking, but I couldn't even
remember the
I couldn't even remember the acronym.
But I was like, did you see this thing?
National Security Presidential Memorandum.
He's even changed his name to Ken Kliberstein, NSPM 7 compliant.
And if you just scroll through his head shaped like a pair.
His whole thing is basically just asking people to talk about NSPM 7 and begging people to.
And honestly, look, if Congress was to say anything about this at all, that'd be great.
And that's because
this
National Security Directive
National Security Presidential
Memorandum 7
Why is it 7?
I don't know.
Maybe it doesn't make
it doesn't make sense to call it the seventh one
because there was one called like NSPMB
I don't so usually these are classified
and not released to the public like this.
It's very strange for them
oftentimes they come out years later
there were
there were ones
from the Carter administration
post 9-11 Bush ones
were a big one
where they were released
like years later
there was one under Biden
yeah but they're normally not
just put out like this
it's not an executive order
it's this thing called
the National Security Directive
yeah it's not a law
it's a it's a
policy direction
he's directing policy
under
within
the bounds of the law just kind of saying hey it would be like saying hey parking enforcement go
out and i want you to enforce meters on this side of town specifically it's like it's not a
except he's talking to law enforcement pretty much every agency and saying we're going to start
stamping out left wing extremism while labeling pretty much everything we don't like
left wing extremism yeah when i first
started seeing it in the feet, I was like, I don't know, I can't keep up with all this.
And then as he kept talking about it, I looked into it and I was like, oh, wow, you know what, we might, we might be able to be classified.
Oh, you and I.
I mean, this show as a whole might be able to be classified as a, we are bad boys.
As a terrorist.
Why, give me some examples.
Well, so he goes on to list some of the indications of violence among, um,
among these left-wing extremists.
Anti-Americanism.
I think there might be some...
We've done that kind of thing before.
Anti-capitalism?
That one might be...
There was a lot of CCP as strong.
Those were jokes.
Okay?
Anti-Christianity.
I don't know if we've ever been anti-Christian necessarily.
Have we?
Explicitly?
We've made jokes.
We definitely on an earlier iteration of this show
were the, we would refer to ourselves as the only Christian finance podcast.
Well, then we're definitely not Christian, or not anti-Christian, because we're the only
Christian finance podcast.
I think they might say we were made, when we made Vlad do a prayer with us.
Oh, right.
Who knows?
Who knows?
We should have bought so much Robin Hood stock after that.
I mean, Jesus.
We'd be millionaires.
Support for the overthrow of the United States government.
Yeah, check that.
Yeah.
Extremism on migration.
I don't know about that.
I don't know if we've ever said anything.
Extremism on race.
Okay.
Extremism on gender.
Who else up late writing trans ideology on their bullets?
Hostility towards those who hold traditional American...
It's so vague.
It's so vague.
It's so broad.
Hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family.
I guess man, woman.
Hostility towards those who hold traditional American
views on religion. Oh, okay. Hustility towards those who old traditional American views on
morality. I mean, this could be construed- Anything, which is what we're going to get to why this is
especially heinous and a little bit on the scary side, because obviously these definitions are
wildly open to any kind of interpretation. And very, I mean, like we were saying, there's been
these national security directives before, but Ben's favorite Trump administration official,
Stephen Miller said, this is the first time in American history that there is an all, there's an
all of government effort to dismantle left wing terrorism. Yeah. They're coming for us.
Yeah, we have, I mean, we've definitely threatened, or not threatened, but we've, we've joked about
sending a certain type of package to the White House, a certain, you know, blowing up things,
and we've made jokes about that. So, am I worried? No, not at all. I don't think anything. I think we're too
small of a fish. But, you know, maybe we should start, uh, maybe we should start having people
report us so that we can gain some. No, don't do that. This, this is, some popularity. I find this
all, I'll die in a cross. Sorry, was that anti-Christian? I'll die on a cross for this bullshit.
He explicitly, uh, you know, in the, in the memo, he explicitly calls out the assassination of Charlie
Kirk. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's in the very first section. Even in the aftermath of the horrifying
assassination of Charlie Kirk, some
individuals who adhered to the alleged
shooter's ideology embraced
and cheered this evil murder
while actively encouraging more political
violence. So it's just a freedom of speech
thing. Yeah, like... He also calls out
his own... Oh, he calls out the Luigi
Manjone stuff. He calls out
his own two
assassination attempts.
He calls out Brett Kavanaugh,
which I completely forgot about.
That one really
22. I looked it up.
that one
that one flew too under the radar
it's so weird
the person went
with a plan
with weapons to go
they went to his house
with a plan to kill him
and then all the sudden
they called the cops on themselves
whoa what
and turn themselves in
they said you know I feel bad
we were going to come here
and kill Brett Kavanaugh
it's unbelievable
that's super strange
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Wait, wow. Yeah.
So, and then he obviously, of course,
name checks the riots in Los Angeles and Portland,
which is such a cop-out.
I mean, calling them riots.
Sure, there have been moments of, I don't know, people...
It's protesting, but everything that's protests now
is categorized as riots to these guys.
Also protesting that the police departments in every city
has never not had a handle on.
Yeah.
It never was like...
Well, that's what they're doing.
We need reinforcements here.
Any instance, be it, that's what's alarming about this, is any instance of dissent, whether
it just be vocalizing, verbalizing that dissent, or demonstrating in the streets, this is
this memorandum, memoranda, singular.
It's funny you say that because this, did you read through this whole thing?
Yeah.
It's full of the, I highlighted all my favorite.
For such an anti-entering.
intellectual administration and going after professors and universities and stuff, they really
try to, they do a funny job with a couple of the plurals of these words.
Like what?
It just reminded when you said memoranda.
So they go, these campaigns often begin by isolating and dehumanizing specific targets
to justify murder or other violent action against them.
They do so through a variety of fora instead of forums.
I've never heard someone who goes on to say.
I know.
And in the same sentence, they said, including anonymous chat forums.
Which one is it, dickhead?
And then the very next paragraph, there are common recurrent motivations and indicia.
You can just say indications?
Yeah, wow.
I just graduated law school and I really...
Unbelievable.
That's what it reads like.
But they really, I mean, they're giving so much credit to...
Antifa? I mean, I don't even want to say Antifa because I'm like, does this thing even
exist? Is this a, but the political violence is not a series of isolated incidents and does not
emerge organically. Instead, it's a culmination of sophisticated, organized campaigns of targeted
intimidation, radicalization, threats, and violence designed to silence, opposing speech,
limit political activity, change or direct policy outcomes, and prevent the functioning
of a democratic society. Obviously, I'm very biased. I don't know.
So, if the left was that organized, that'd be thrilled.
This, honestly, what he's describing is the right.
Yeah.
Like Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk was able to do that because he was so funded by right-wing billionaires.
And he was able to have such a massive impact because he was backed by big donors.
The left obviously doesn't have that because the left is often talking about things like billionaire shouldn't exist or we should redistribute wealth in those things.
So why would they do that in the first place?
This just, this doesn't exist.
This is...
Well, to me, it's the next logical step in the George Soros thing, which is true.
He's donated money to Democrat and left-wing groups and protests and stuff.
But I don't think that that necessarily means that there's targeted intimidation, radicalization, threats, and violence.
uh that are sophisticated and i mean and as we talked about charlie kirk's turning point
usa released their list of uh they do this they released they released lists of professors
academics journalists whoever which are basically just harassment lists and um many people
after he died came forward and was like you know i i'm not going to eulogize this man i mean he's
ruined my life there's a guy just uh ruckers university in new jersey
Mark Bray
He
Hi, Mark Bray
Rutgers University
He
I believe it was a targeted campaign
From the Turning Point USA chapter
At Rutgers University
He announced
He's leaving
The school and moving his family to Europe
Because they are getting so many
credible death threats
Wow man
Because he teaches
You know the history of fascism
The history of genders
The history of bathrooms
He teaches trans stuff
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah, here you got. Rutgers Professor moving to Europe after threats over Antifa accusations.
You're Antifa. You're Antifa.
He did write a book. I think he wrote a book called I'm Antifa by...
I think it's called Antifa, like the anti-fascist...
Man, the anti-fascist guidebook or something like that.
Aye.
Well, that paragraph goes on to say, a new law enforcement strategy that investigates all participants in these criminal and terroristic conspiracies,
including the organized structures, networks, entities, organizations, funding sources, and
predicate actions behind them is required. So again, a massive match of massive catch-all.
Like what constitutes a network entity organization funding source? Like if you donate 20 bucks to your
local church or your local whatever, yeah, church or whatever. And that church happens to also have
had a rally in support of something left wing against ice or something, they can, they have
the grounds to then say, well, that's, that's, that's your, you're, you're funding terrorism and
criminal conspiracy. Yeah, I mean, anything can be, they can warp whatever they want to fit
this legal, uh, this legal narrative. I'd be cooked. I mean, the amount of, uh,
donations i've made
oh yeah
candidates the
brother i mean
card carrying member
of the democratic social social
subrera brother brother that's not really good for me
yeah these campaigns are coordinated
and perpetrated by actors
emil who have developed
who have developed a comprehensive strategy
to achieve specific policy goals
through radicalization and violent
intimidation
these movements portray
foundational american principles
E.G. the support for law enforcement and border control as fascist to justify and encourage acts of violent revolution.
How about the fact that you guys are, you're doing the exact same thing, but in the opposite.
Your support for law enforcement and border control, you take it to the fucking nth degree to justify just kidnapping people off the streets and shit.
And the latest thing, I don't know if you heard about this, but there's apparently been a couple of ice agents and feds and stuff have been doxed and there's bounties on their heads for like $2,000 to catch them alive.
I think it's cartels.
That's what they were reporting on the radio.
Cartels are putting bounties on ice agents.
10 grand to kill them and like 2 grand to kidnap them.
And that's...
I don't have to verify that.
That's...
I mean, who knows?
I'd believe it.
And that's why they're like,
oh, that's why we got to remain anonymous.
Sure, fine.
Whatever.
Even if we take that,
the biggest issue is...
Well, not the biggest issue.
But when you see people...
What's to stop?
anybody from just putting on a mask
and kidnapping someone that they don't like
or someone that they want to
sexually assault or someone that they want to just
flat out kidnap. Yes, this is the exact reason
we don't allow these things.
Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean
it's not entirely clear that these
that we haven't just seen
proud boys members or
I'm sure a bunch of them are
former proud boys. That's true. I mean, I'm sure
they've just gone legit at this point and
have signed up. I mean, why not?
The benefits are crazy. I'm even
I and some of those
those student loan forgiveness
I'm like should I freaking mask up
Oh great
So now I got to pay for your student loan
Because you want to beat up a Mexican guy
I'm just kidding
I would not do that
It is crazy that
That is how we're doing student loan forgiveness though
But yeah
The bonuses they offer all this stuff
I mean
The
Whoever
Anyone who has joined ICE in the past
month
two months, whatever.
I mean,
has to be one of the most...
Oh, they're depraved.
Yeah, it's...
Depraved, lonely, angry,
vengeful.
So, yeah, I mean, it's either...
Sad.
It's either vigilantes who are
just doing this unsanctioned
or...
But why even bother doing that
when you can go legit,
get paid, get bonuses?
Yeah.
They're doing huge recruitment cycles.
It's going to be one of the only jobs
left in the country.
But yeah, I mean...
I'm sure your feet is full of the...
It's full.
Just...
And watching some of them,
there was one that went very viral of them,
of, they chased the guys off.
Did you see them?
They're trying to grab a guy.
Yeah.
And they...
Those guys looked so unprofessional and so poorly trained.
And a lot of people were pointing out,
like, are these guys even law enforcement at this point?
Like, or are these just hobbyists?
Yeah.
Going out in their Dodge Durango.
Doing like Batman.
The fake plates.
Yeah.
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but apparently the administration cares more like, fine, go for it. Take that Mexican guy. Get him off
the street. I mean, I... But yeah, so I mean, all of these things...
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target people who oppose any of this stuff, target political dissidents. When I was looking
this up, I didn't really know who Miles Taylor was, but he wrote about this. And apparently he was
the chief of staff for the Department of Homeland Security in the first Trump administration.
And he's pissed about this. But I do have to say this, I have an issue with this. I have an issue with
It bugs me. But this is from him, someone who worked in Homeland Security.
I love that you, you're sorry, real fast. You just did Trump. I know, I did. I didn't mean,
I know. I realized literally right after I did it. Donald Trump just made a vastly easier for his
agencies to add Americans to the terrorist watch list, track them secretly, pervasively without due
process. It allows them, in effect, to add U.S. citizens by the thousands to the terrorist
watch list itself for minor legal infractions or none at all. Here's what people don't realize.
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formally called the terrorist screening database maintained by the FBI's terrorist screening center.
There's no statute passed by Congress that limits it to people connected to violent overseas groups like ISIS.
Instead, it's based on policies set by the executive branch.
The Trump administration has just blown the potential criteria wide open.
The new order not only empowers the administration to treat U.S. political organizations or non-profits as terrorist selves
under sweeping and ambiguous criteria,
i.e. basically anyone they use
legalese to decry as an extremist group,
but it also permits agencies
to consider an individual as a domestic
terrorism suspect for even
indirectly encouraging violence or
infractions like trespassing and vandalism.
I would say basically every,
even like Normie Libs
can be considered.
On Twitter and Facebook are going to be
able to be added to these things.
I mean, just the way,
just seeing response.
Post United Health Care CEO?
Seeing response.
Pretty much everyone in America has.
Yeah.
Which is like, okay, come on, you guys.
What are you going to do?
Arrest half of America?
There goes your damn economy.
And he basically said exactly what you're talking about.
Imagine a Democratic mayor in a small Midwestern town.
She organizes a peaceful rally with a guest speaker whom Trump's DOJ later claims is tied to Antifa.
Under Trump's order, the mayor would theoretically be flagged as an
associate of a domestic terrorist, which alone could be enough to nominate the mayor as a known
or suspected terrorist in the TSDB or terrorist watch list without even knowing it and eventually
upend her life.
I'm so tired of this like, ah, but Trump's not going to do that. He's all bluster.
Trump's not going to do that. It's all just words. He's just exaggerating. This is what he does.
And now we're at the point where you can't really use that anymore at all. Do you see that
Joe Rogan and the fucking chin, chin diaper beard guy,
what's his name? Theo Vaughan.
Oh, they're all coming out and being like,
whoa, I didn't vote for this.
Let me say from the bottom of my heart,
I didn't vote for this, okay?
Oh, you absolute moron.
When I saw people,
when I saw people shaking signs at his thing that said
mass deportations now,
I thought he was going to do it peacefully.
I thought he was going to be kind about it.
I just didn't want girls, boys playing girls baseball.
That's all shoot.
Shoot, I'm Theo Vaughn.
Boy, I don't know anything.
saying, hey, I'm just trying to be, I'm just trying to be a good guy here.
Shut the fuck up, Theo Vaughn.
And he's pissed that now they're using his clips in their...
Yeah, I hope they keep using them.
I mean...
I hope he gets death threats.
Not only that, I mean, he had the guy on.
He goes down and has the...
Boy, you ever try cocaine?
Wow, that'll have you sitting on a street pole like a damn owl.
Very good, Theo.
Good job, Theo.
He goes to the inauguration, so does Joe Biden.
Yeah.
Joe Rogan.
he's like doing
prank videos
at the inauguration
with the
what are those moron brothers
oh the Paul brothers
the Paul brothers
just like
you made your bed Theo
you gotta lie in it
just fucking we're just ruled by
idiots man
but that's honestly
I think this is the
no one has any
responsibility
for their consequences
that's why I'm saying
this guy's
response to
to this memo really pissed me off. This guy, Miles Taylor, because at the end, he said,
as someone who's helped build the nation's counterterrorism architecture, I'm telling you that
it's now being primed for potentially unimaginable abuse. Indeed, it could become the central
nervous system of Trump's surveillance state against the political opposition. Unless insiders
blow the whistle, we might not know how expansive the targeting of innocent Americans becomes
for many years to come since terrorist watch list itself and the process surrounding it are kept
secret. It's just so ridiculous to be like, as someone who tried to build this
massive surveillance system that, hey, we didn't know some crazy guy was going to get
a hold of. And hijack it. I mean, this is basically my entire life. Post 9-11, since I had like
an actual somewhat political conscious, people on the left have been railing against
the Patriot Act, the War on Terror, all these expanding things, even through Obama. Obama
was expanding his own powers and people were going, hey, those aren't going to go away when
someone else gets in office. And now all these people are like, as a good liberal who made all
these things possible, I'm appalled that they're being used like this. And it's like, my God.
I mean, ICE is the biggest one. People were, you know, people were kind of laughed at when people
remember the abolish ICE movement? Oh, yeah. A decade ago, they were like, what are you talking about?
they've been vindicated
yeah
thousands of times over
I feel bad for the guy in ice
who's just customs
he's the customs part
not immigration
and he's just like
I just make sure
they don't bring frogs
and grain into the airport
I'm not one of the bad guys
I'm just checking for frogs
and bugs and stuff
that poor guy
have you seen the frog
the Chicago frog
the Chicago frog
oh yeah they pepper sprayed
the fucking
I did pepper spray him, but he often, like, there's other videos of him going and taunting them,
and he's kind of just like, you know, shaking his hips.
Yeah, that's great.
I love that.
You love the frog.
What's, what's frustrating to me is all these, you get to see, it's like Warren Buffett says,
when, when the tide goes out, you, you get to finally see who's been swimming naked
in reference to, like, who's got their balance sheet over leveraged when the easy money policies go away.
and like which companies are set to fail.
In a similar sense, when push comes to shove politically and the political tide goes out, so to speak, you get to see who's been like morally swimming naked and who is so inconsistent in their political beliefs, i.e., the gun lovers, the states rights people, the reason we have guns is to go after a tyrannical government.
it's like sending federal...
Yeah, where's your militias, yo?
Dude, this is exactly what they were warning against.
And what they're like, this is why we need guns.
Dude, I mean, it's federalized troops and federal agents.
No, but they like it now.
I know, that's what's...
Greg Abbott of Texas.
Texas Governor Greg Abbott is sending 400 National Guardsmen from Texas out to Illinois.
And they send these guys out there, and then there's protests and pushback,
and then they use that protest and pushback to justify.
their presence there. It's just one big
circle jerk.
Oh, like this is, this is your
federal government overstepping its bounds
to a T. You couldn't,
this is your perfect
setup. And I have seen some
people out there like really saying this is wrong
and conservatives everywhere need to like
step up and say something. But are they
going to fucking do that? And go on boys
suit up.
I just hope that we don't get at.
I'd love to see some ice on militia.
Well, I guess it's like,
It's like that tweet says.
It's like the same reason you never see
Hannah Montana and Miley Cyrus in the same room.
Wow, what a comparison.
You know, ICE versus cops.
It's like, it's like, well, you never see Hannah Montana
and Miley Cyrus is the same.
No, no, ice versus militia.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you understand?
Yeah, it's because they're one in the same.
Yeah, yeah.
The militias have just been like, great.
Man, I still just can't stop.
Why don't we just go get good government jobs?
Get good government jobs.
We'll get health care.
Some of us went to college.
We want those loans forgiven.
You'd be, you'd be, well, you'd be furloughed right now.
Well, they're not furloughed.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, they're one of the few.
The few, the proud, the ice.
We have no government.
We just have rogue, you know, secret police.
In jeans.
Loyal to Trump at all costs.
Yeah.
Trump could fuck these guys' wives, and they'd be like, man.
I'd vote for you a third time.
Thank you for that.
You made her come harder than I ever could.
Just to hammer this home for people to understand what this means for everyone.
This is still from Miles.
Being nominated to the list can make it easier for your movements to be monitored,
your bank accounts to be frozen or closed, deny you jobs, visas or security clearances,
and or track your communications and financial transactions across agencies,
often without a warrant and usually without your knowledge.
Well, as part of the memorandum on Section 2, they've got this thing called the National Joint Terrorism Task Force, or the JTTFs.
They shall coordinate and supervise a comprehensive national strategy to investigate, prosecute, and disrupt entities and individuals engaged in acts of political violence and intimidation designed to suppress lawful political activity or obstruct the rule of law.
Again, a very blanket definition that, you know, anybody, they could easily find a way to say that you were engaging in political violence or conspiracy.
The JT, this is one part I didn't like, one of many, the JTFs shall consult and coordinate with executive departments and agencies as needed to determine whether such agencies can apply existing authorities or exercise.
their own authorities as appropriate to support the JTTF's investigations and relevant prosecutions
of political violence. So it's just kind of like, hey, do your own thing. You know, exercise
your own, your best judgment for how you want to, unless you want to work with us. But
otherwise, hey, whatever you do is A. Okay with us.
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I mean, he talked about it when he was,
maybe it was last time we went live.
We were talking about that big presentation with all the generals with Heggseth and Trump,
like 500 generals down in Virginia.
This is the most pathetic.
But he mentioned it.
He said, this is going to be a big, this is going to be a big thing for the people in this room.
Because it's an enemy from within and we have to handle it before it gets out of control.
It won't get out of control once you're involved at all.
And just so people are aware, because I tend to forget that not everybody's online and on Twitter and stuff.
But I actually didn't really know this.
But the military is famously supposed to be completely politically new.
neutral. And Trump and Hegeseth and everybody, they've really been, and it, this is what's
concerning is like all these little pieces are coming into place. And it just, you can't help
what's coming, but wonder what comes next. Because they're very much trying to politicize
the branches of government by addressing all these generals and admirals and stuff and saying,
we've got an enemy from within. And then just at the, I guess it was the Navy's birthday.
that's why Trump was addressing all the sailors.
I'm sorry. I forgot to send the card.
I know. I didn't send the Navy anything.
But he goes up, Trump went up there and said, we got to deal with a little problem, a little
gnat on our shoulder known as the Democrats.
Not the left, not the radical left, but just the Democrats.
That's why I feel good that I don't consider myself a Democrat.
Thank you, Trump.
I'll see you out there, pal.
But just to finish up with this memoranda.
the Attorney General shall issue specific guidance that ensures domestic terrorism priorities include
politically motivated terrorist acts, acts such as, so all of these are going to be considered politically
motivated terrorist attacks. It's basically minority report pre-crime bullshit.
Yeah. Organized doxing campaigns, swatting, rioting, looting, trespass, assault, destruction
of property, threats of violence, and civil disorder. What would constitute civil disorder?
What would constitute trespass or assault?
Could it be verbal if you, if you yell at a cop or say just the wrong thing?
Could they say, I feel threatened and then take you down and get you arrested?
Who the fuck knows?
Do you hold traditional American morals?
Oh, fuck.
What are those?
In the course of and as a result of the investigations directed by Section 2 of this memorandum,
the Attorney General may recommend that any group or entity whose members are engaged
in activities meeting the definition of domestic terrorism merits designation as a domestic
terrorist organization. The attorney general shall submit a list of any such groups or entities
to the president through the assistant to the president and Homeland Security Advisor.
So now we're talking about making lists of people. And the Attorney General is going to give
said list to Trump and the Homeland Security Advisor. So that's nice. They'll just have a list
of everybody. Just like Charlie Kirk's toilet paper USA had.
Let's see. One last thing. The Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security
shall designate domestic terrorism a national priority area and develop appropriate grant
programs to allocate funding for law enforcement partners to detect, prevent, and protect
against threats arising from this area. God bless you. God bless America. God bless Jesus Christ.
and God bless traditional American values.
1488, we must ensure a white future for our white children.
And thank you very much.
And God bless you.
And God bless the unborn babies.
And no, say no to abortion.
Donald Trump.
Just say no to abortion.
And that's how they signed it off.
That's crazy.
Yeah. God bless.
And I do think for that little bit you did, you're going to jail, pal.
Yeah, probably.
Jesus Christ.
I think they might find bullets that's a trans ideology on it in your house.
Oh, boy.
There's a popular meme format, in particular in, like, white supremacist, nationalists groups.
And this format, it looks like it's a still from a VHS tape from the late 80s or 90s.
And it's meant to...
Oh, yeah, we've talked about this.
Yeah, it's meant to elicit feelings of nostalgia for...
a time long gone, a time that they often
decry as being stolen
from you, taken from you, due to
globalization, due to woke, due to
black people and illegal immigrants and stuff.
If it wasn't for woke, you would have a wife right now.
That's the reason you don't. Oh yeah. The reason why
well, yeah, it's because some Mexican guy came and took your wife
before you could even meet her. They're taking our wives.
It's because Bad Bunny doesn't speak English very well.
But they
they they they pine for this bygone era which interestingly enough usually involves advertisements
it's usually around old magazine ads television ads because they're just a for some reason
they're singularly obsessed with ads and how back then ads used to have like white families
and a white mother and a white father and there was no multiracialism shoved down our throats and they
they long for this time
that may not have
ever even really existed for them.
I don't think it ever...
That's a thing.
I mean, I've said it before.
I think they're just stupid
and they're like,
I saw it on TV.
That's what it was like.
I missed that.
Everyone,
they lived like leave it to Beaver.
Their dads were nice to them.
My dad was horrible to me.
And they had a nice mom.
My mom left me
because my dad was drunk.
And they just think
things they saw on the TV
where they,
every time,
was better than it is now. Everything
about history was
great because
they consider themselves
just an elite
that has been downtrodden by something.
But if it was just any other era,
you know, if they could go back to
ancient Greece, they wouldn't be
the philosophers
butt boys in the spas, but they
would be the philosophers themselves.
They'd be the ones fucking the butt boys. Right.
Yeah.
Go back to that
tweet, though. Because in this
image you got a couple of Apache helicopters
flying over what appears to be
a NASCAR race
and it says
recapture our national identity
you see UScIS.gov
slash join in the Homeland Security
tweeted this and says victory is within reach
now let's click the Homeland Security thing
because they've been just on a fucking
tear. They truly must have
click media. You do have to give it
to Christy Noam though for someone who
looks to be continuously
getting stung by bees. She's doing a
of a lot of work. Oh, yeah. The poor woman.
It seems like no matter where she goes,
she's bumping into a...
I mean, they're doing...
Look at these. Wasp's nest.
Look at this. Click one of those. The America
calls. America calls. Join
ICE now. And it's... It's Lady Liberty
holding a white lady liberty.
It's just there... I mean,
I wouldn't even call these dog whistles anymore. I just call them
fucking whistles, dude. These are full-blown,
you know, white supremac propaganda.
Yeah. Click out of the list. Let's find.
another one that's like that doing you know world war two era propaganda to get you to join the war
against your fellow citizens it's that Europa shit that packs Europa shit um and they think that's
going I that's what I'm saying where people anyone who's joined in the last couple months or whatever
these are only going to appeal to just the most depraved oh yeah stinky guys like the
Stinkiest, stinky guys.
America calling.
Join.
This is full-blown Nazi shit.
It'd be great if it was like, hey,
learn a trade or like join the cause for building factories.
I'd be all for it.
Oh, go to the homestead one.
Go down to the right there that on the left.
The Pioneer's Home.
We are the ones who create.
It's just all this white shit.
it's um it's bananas man it's really bananas i saw one the other day that has since gotten
deleted but it was uh it was something about um we want the america we want the america
that only had a hundred million people and it was just a bunch of clips from the 90s of like
white guys in the olympics and which is they they are so good at making it seem like america
was was and always had been purely white and it wasn't brother until 2008 we barracco
Obama got elected and he made everyone black somehow.
And we just wanted to go back.
We just wanted to go back.
Yeah.
But, um, sorry, I'm chewing ice.
Nice, dude.
Chew ice.
No, no, I don't want to do that.
Uh, yeah, that's, so...
Don't join ice.
Chew ice.
Chew ice.
Uh, anyway, it's, it's bad stuff.
It's bad vibes.
And you got, you got fucking, uh,
What's his name?
Let's click the F-A-F-O of Captain Dipshit of the fuckhead militia.
Pete Hegseth addressing the military, expecting a round of applause after he says this.
In other words, to our enemies.
F-A-F-O.
I want to do my own Pete Hegseth here.
In other words, to our enemies.
L.M. A.O.
That's a president I would get behind.
A president bringing the he-hees ha-haz?
Or B-B-W.
Big beautiful woman.
Oh, sure, sure, sure.
He's just into large women.
I was immediately going Star Wars.
I thought you were going to say BB8.
He fucking, he was expecting...
In other words, R2.
D-2.
Mine sucked.
the one that I just did, but he
Fafel, of course, stands for
Fuck Around, Find Out, which has been
a rallying cry and
a
punctuation mark on
many of these guys's statements
as it pertains. Which it wasn't always. I remember
being very, I mean, just finding it
frustrating. It was like an act of fool
at a party or a club. You
fuck around, you find out, you get knocked out. I don't know being very tired of
seeing it online in like 2020 of like
but the proud boys totally co-opted.
I know. Or you go out there and you protest us?
Fuck around.
Find it.
Just fuck you.
I will say, as goofy as these guys are, we are finding out.
Yeah.
But it was just entertaining because he assumed that all these generals were just as online as he is.
And I'm sure most of them were like, what the fuck are you talking about, dude?
Don't drag your online shit and try to make, ugh.
When people try to co-mingle and race mix, if you,
will online and in person. It's the cringiest shit. Oh, yeah, it's extremely cringy.
When you, when you, when you're bringing that, F-AFO belongs online. It doesn't belong in real
life. Don't do that. That's, that's the crux of the problem, really. So much online,
they've been desperately trying to bring into the real world. Dude, it's the Twitter podcast
administration. Yeah. The entire, um, yeah, I don't think this is popular. They've unfortunately
captured power. Um, and it's going to be extremely hard to
wrested away from them but this is not popular yeah and stephen miller who speaks with his bottom
teeth you like him right oh i love him so much he's so hot i thought you said he's at least the one
guy who's doing good stuff he's at least the one guy who's trying to do a good job if the woke will get
out of his way i will say i think he's trying to do a good job and he wants to be a little good boy for
Trump.
Of course he does.
Yeah.
He's a, he's, he really is, um, who was, was it gerbils?
Who was like, oh yeah, he's certainly, Hitler's like right hand, who, the propaganda guy.
Was it Gerbils?
He's, he's a little weasley rat boy, gerbils.
And he's the one who's been really, this, it's been racking around, rattling around.
Rattling around my brain.
Thank you very much.
about how what's scary about
I think what's scariest about Trump
arguably is the fact that he
delegates so much of
of his responsibilities
to others.
And that's been his calling card
for the longest time.
I'm a good businessman.
I'm a smart businessman.
On The Apprentice,
it was all about like
he's got his sons there
and Ivanka and he's like,
I hire the smartest people
because I'm really good at that
and then they handle everything.
And that's what he's been doing
and it feels like
and I'm not the only one to think of this or pointed out,
but a lot of people have been noting
that it really increasingly feels like
this is Stephen Miller's like pet,
not even pet project,
but entire basis for fucking living right now.
And he's just,
and Trump has probably just been like,
you go wild,
you're my little pit bull,
you're my good little boy,
get out there and do whatever needs to be done,
go on TV,
say whatever needs to be said.
Yeah,
he wants to be a good little boy.
Oh,
and he's the one who's been the loudest,
the most vocal and the most aggressive
with this whole
and just conditioning people
conditioning their base
leftists or terrorists
the Democratic Party is
a terrorist organization
Gavin Newsom talking about shit
he was like this is I don't remember
what he said it was like this is insurrection
this is calls for violence just calling
calling Stephen Miller
fascist and calling these guys
want to be fascist he's like that's violence
you're promoting violence by saying that
That's a big part of their whole thing motivating this is the fact that when they act
like fascists, people call them fascists. And that is promoting violence.
You can't call us that because then people might act on those things and take out their anger
toward us. And that's not good for us.
I mean, case in point, well, I shouldn't say case in point because it's still unsubstantiated.
but there was this judge, Diane Schaefer Goodstein, Goodstein, and her husband, who was a former member of both houses of the state legislature in, where was it, Missouri?
I thought this was North Carolina.
North Carolina, that's right. Her house burned down. And there's no proof that it's arson yet, of course, but it's just really, really bad timing.
It's obviously very strange, but I don't think as of this point in time, there is...
yeah there's no evidence that it's arson but it was i mean it is bad vibes and bad timing because
she was uh she'd gotten death threats from weeks after goodstein issued a ruling against the
trump administration yeah obviously uh tensions are inflamed to say the
well well to switch gears just a little bit i guess um let me pull up that pull up that thing
that's in bold there
show, Jim Carson has been all over this. He's a very smart guy. He's a stock guy. And he put out
a warning months ago that there was going to be some really increased, not only rhetoric,
but policy cracking down on political dissent. And he's been proven right. And it's kind of
terrifying. Yeah, he's been kind of a terrifying follow lately. Oh, yeah. And lately he's been kind of
dropping breadcrumbs, so to speak, about what he thinks might be next. And he put up this infographic
about the countries with the largest proven oil reserves. And they're the biggest one. You've got
Venezuela with 303 billion barrels in their reserves. And who is it that we've been
blowing up extra judicially? What country outside of the waters? Yes, Emil. How dare you? Number one.
Those were drug running Venezuelans.
that is the Trump administration
keeping us safe. It almost sounds like you don't
adhere to traditional American values.
Oh, no, I love traditional American values.
I love them.
It's Venezuela.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And apparently maybe that's what traditional
American morals are.
Bombing people extraditionally
in the Caribbean. Maybe that's our morals.
I would like to, I mean,
the America that these guys love
so much would not be where
it is without
without everybody, you know?
I mean, so much of the tax revenue and shit
and the GDP comes from blue cities in blue states
from a lot of companies
that they purport to fucking hate
because they're woke and whatever.
Well, even just going back to, you know,
those AI-generated things you're talking about
where people like to be like, you know,
making America great again,
goes back to the 50s, whatever.
We used to be a great country.
They always base it in woke,
and this was before trans and black people
and gay people and all this stuff,
but they never point to any of the actual economic factors
of union density in this country,
tax rates, corporate tax rates,
you know,
employment protections, it's always
things that have been just absolutely gutted.
And not to mention that the country was still kind of coasting off of
New Deal era
policies that have been gutted since
it's just, it's never that, it's always
well, the woke, gay, we need to kill every teacher
because they made my kid trans.
I was surprised.
I have a group of friends
that I'm still very close with
that I grew up with.
Most of them,
if not all of them,
left New Jersey
just like I did.
And I saw a guy,
I follow him on Instagram.
He was probably a few grades older than me.
And I honestly didn't know.
I wasn't that close with him.
I didn't know his political leanings or anything.
But like on Instagram,
I've been seeing him just like blast.
Like, you know,
just going very,
very left. And I was like, damn, okay.
Interesting. And he posted something about central New Jersey where I grew up and someone
they just elected. I don't keep up with Central Jersey politics, but I do know that it's a
pretty conservative area. And I just texted back, like, or responded to it. Like, man,
it's such a shame that where we grew up was such a conservative place. Like, I guess I didn't feel
it that much growing up because I wasn't, you know, I was a kid, whatever. And he,
He was like, you know, I used to be close with a lot of people who still live there,
and I've basically cut everyone off.
He's like, you have no idea what it's like over there.
Apparently, like, the high school that my high school was a part of, the district,
they, there was an insurgency from moms for liberty, which is that, like, anti-gay,
anti-trans, whatever.
And I guess they took over the board and they just,
instituting all these
insane policies
and he was like, I honestly
just cut ties with everyone. I was like
God, what a weird
it definitely was not like
that when I was growing up. It was not like
I mean, we
we got in trouble. We had
assemblies and stuff
about like, you know,
you know,
they made us, they wanted to stop
using gay and all this stuff
and it's just such a
encouraging it.
Hey, we just want to let you kids know.
It's okay.
Call each other gay.
And I think conservatism was always something I would probably be against,
but it's just such a different thing.
I even asked him, because he was older than me,
I was like, was it always like that growing up?
And he was like, no, I remember in 96,
Clinton was going to be in the town over.
I remember I remember Republican friends' families going to see Clinton speak
and being like, he seems like a sensible guy.
I actually might, it's just such a different...
Well, yeah, Trump changed everything.
This whole thing has really...
Trump was like at just the right place and time
when the online world started to really spill out
into the real world.
In 2015, 2016, if you had used the word woke
to an older, to a boomer voter,
they wouldn't know what it is.
But now it's everywhere.
Online and in real life are enmeshed.
Facebook cooked the boomer's brains.
everything could and Trump especially he was the big catalyst for it because he's the living embodiment
you know the the pink sludge in Ghostbusters 2 underneath New York and it's it's just all of all
of the bad vibes of the city is is um what manifest in this sludge Trump is that but for like
boomer rage and and Jen and a little bit of Gen X and yeah I guess to a lesser
extent some frustrated millennials and stuff but he is the living embodiment of that and that's why
they see him as their champion he's like i don't know yeah it's i mean yeah it's certainly not a um
it's certainly not an administration with a ideology based on actually building a there's no project
here there's no it's all about tearing things down and going back to yeah it's revenge and tearing
everything down and I
the friends that I have
from like high school and from my hometown
some of whom I still talk to some of whom I
just have lost contact with
even in the first election
they had such
a lack of
interest in being
challenged
it was just like
I believe this and this and when I try to
like disprove
or debate or whatever, it would just be like,
I don't want to talk politics, which I get.
But at the same time, there was no intellectual curiosity.
There was no.
And I knew I was like, oh, this guy or these people don't,
it's not even that they're consuming Fox News or anything.
It's just that they're not getting anything.
They just know Obama was bad and Democrats are bad and gay.
and all the all the um emotionally stunted men in i'm thinking of this one guy in his family
including him or just like i vote republican because i want lower taxes and i want to be
able to keep my money and and it was always so funny to me because the hypocrisy with this guy
was so glaring he's like you don't understand i see and i've mentioned this on the show
before. I see, if you worked where I work, he works in a hospital. If you worked where I work,
and Gray Sand, please don't clip this, because I don't want him to see it. He's probably would.
He's like, if you worked where I worked in a hospital, you see people come in all the time who
were broke, but they have iPhones. And it's like, that's such a fucking fallacy of logic.
You have no idea how they got the phone. Maybe they got it used, whatever. But either way, in the
modern era everybody's got to have a fucking phone here number one number two he's like and these
people are just leeches on the system they take advantage and they don't pay their fair share
blah blah blah blah blah blah would he feel better if that guy came in and was broke and he was like
good no iPhone let's treat this guy must be broke dude right and then the hypocrisy comes from his
brother not like that oftentimes like he could have had that phone for such a long time it's not
like you're born broke and die like yeah well you go broke and fuck sure
The main point that he was making was these people are leeches on the system.
Meanwhile, his own brother was a wildland firefighter.
And wildland firefighters are only contracted to work, you know, four months out of the year.
And for years, this guy did the following.
He would work as a wildland firefighter.
And then for the remaining eight months out of the year, he would collect unemployment.
And my buddy was like, isn't that fucking sick?
He's just like taking advantage of the system.
And like, yeah, he's just chilling in his cabin up there just collecting unemployment.
And then when he works again, he gets the paycheck from the.
And then there was some loophole that he was exploiting where it was like he was working a job under the table, collecting the unemployment.
And I just wanted to be like, man, you remember those guys, you were, those families, those poor families you were knocking for like taking advantage of the system?
like what's going on there and he himself would i remember him telling me one time he got pulled over
by the cops uh right after a shift he was speeding or something and he was pissed because the cop
gave him a ticket because he tried to get out of it by being like oh i work over at blah blah blah
hospital and uh yeah i help you guys out all the time whenever we get like d ui suspects and stuff
because he's first to like take the blood to make sure they get a conviction and he was sure
that the cop would be like oh yeah you're you're one of us and it's just like dude you again just
the kind of living embodiment of this like uh the cheating the system and and and cronyism for me
but for everybody else you're a fucking you're a leech and you're you know you're surping the system
and it's just and when you would try to engage with it or try to convince him otherwise there was
no talking to him because he either just ah i don't want to get into that
That's messy.
I don't want to get into politics.
Or just like, just some stuff just, you could give him the most cogent, coherent,
logically consistent argument for why he's wrong about something.
And he'd be like, yeah, I don't know what to tell you, man.
I just feel the way I feel.
I just like the guy.
I just like the guy.
Which is like those fucking, I mean, they, we don't have to play.
Well, let's play the clip of the soybean farmer because it is funny that his name is Scott Farmer.
I know.
I don't know what to.
Or whatever.
Well, like we talked earlier.
We went from 12 billion to zero, and then, you know, as a farmer, we'd get up one morning and you give Argentina, which is our second biggest competition in the world.
They're the largest exporters of soybean meal in the world.
So I get up one morning and I turn the news on.
And you get $20 billion of taxpayer money to my competition.
And then the Chinese buy, I think the figure is 30 or 40 containers, ships, which is about 65,000 metric tons per ship, which is like...
all right basically yeah but doesn't he say that doesn't she ask him if he would go to
oh yeah keep playing it sorry by 12 or 14 billion dollars worth of soybeans from the
argentinians after the tax holiday and here's the caveat to it they give two dollars and 30 cents
over the november board while i'm getting 50 cents under the november board so that
makes the argentinian soybeans about 12 dollars and 42 cents a bushel i think that's the real
figure they gave so all my premium well
oh
Scott I just lost you there at the end
you said your premiums go
they all went to Argentina
maybe that's not the right one
I thought there's no
basically he got the all the soybean
firmers got royally fucked
China used to import
$12 billion a year
from America
and it dropped to zero this year
because of Trump's bullshit
and we just
gave Argentina a bailout.
Because they fucked their economy up so bad with their ridiculous libertarian
Javier Malay.
Yeah.
People on the right were like,
we're back, baby.
The world is going to see what libertarianism unleashed can do.
And then they tank the economy.
Yeah.
And now we're giving them a $20 billion bailout.
Yeah.
And then they're selling their soybeans to China instead.
And the sad thing is that these people, no matter what happens,
they would still, they're still so devastatingly effective at making farmers like that
and like rural, god-fearing Americans so afraid of trans and woke, they really make it seem
like they're going to come and like force convert your sons and shit.
They're just so good at it that they would, they would just keep voting for Trump no matter
what, every single time.
It is very, I mean, it's very disheartening.
talking to that guy from my hometown was just really bummed me out.
I mean, those are people, you know, it's a suburb in New Jersey.
You know what I mean?
It's like, these are people who, for the most part, the system is working for.
Oh, yeah.
And I can understand it when there's some, you know, there's economic hardship.
There's feeling like you're being left behind.
At least this guy's talking about wanting to shake up the system.
This is just bizarre to me.
I mean, so I try to, I'll, like, mute anyone who I just, like, don't want to see their stuff.
There's, but my friends who I do keep in touch with who are very normal and have left will sometimes, like, send me a thing.
They sent me, this guy, he was in our grade, we knew him, and they sent me his Instagram post.
And it's November, 2024.
It's a picture of the Trump rally he was attending in somewhere in Pennsylvania, I think, and just like,
long caption about what an honor it was to be at Trump's last rally before he becomes
president again brought tears to my eyes like down like what the fuck yeah i mean there's
going to be entire areas of study dedicated to this after it's all over about what a what a
stranglehold
this guy has had
both on his own party
on the opposition
on the country
on the culture
and on the world
he's truly the main character
every day
and
yeah I mean
I'm often just left
speechless and
um
hopeless
and just like
I don't even know
there's
what's going on?
Truly what is going on?
I mean,
yeah.
How are people
and people like Ted Cruz
who are just
revealed to obviously
be completely lacking
in any kind of principles
and moral consistency
and...
Dude, literally go down the list.
Every single one of these guys
in 2015 and 2016
was calling him a despot
a JD Vance himself
called him the next Hitler.
Yeah.
All of these people are the biggest cowards.
Marco Rubio, all of them, just the biggest cowards, all down the line.
But they can see what's happening.
I mean, that's the thing.
We're not even a year into this to the second term.
These things like we're talking about, NSPM 7, things are just getting started.
I mean, it's the...
Yeah.
And like you said, they never have any plans for how to make things better.
it's just
hey all these plans that you have for making things better
that's never going to work
that's fucking stupid that's going to cost too much money
are you gay
get out of here with that gay shit
it's the you know
they go for the easy thing of
Christy Gnome tweets out like
F a FO
30 million illegals
deported
sounds like that'll do a number for the housing market
now all of a sudden you're not
competing with illegals and it's like
just kill me
just not even we didn't even get into
the Christianity you turned on your dog
Christy Nome put it right here
that's not even getting into the
Christianity part about how these people
claim to be such like
God-fearing
brethren-loving Christians and yet
they are so
hateful and
just intolerant toward
virtually everybody
yeah but they're going to do a
they're going to cloak it in the fact that they're protecting their own yeah they're going to do um who is it the lake and riley act they're going to take any instance of um an immigrant having some kind of violent action towards someone and even better if it's a blonde white woman and they can go do you see what they want to do to you this is what they took from us what they want to do to the entire world the entire country all of our sweet beautiful
white babies
you're going to have to hand them over
you're just going to have to do it
and Obama himself hi Doug
if Obama gets his way
he's going to hand over all the white babies
to the immigrants remember that
remember that clip of the
of the people acting out the
abortion in front of the White House
during the Obama administration
oh man I got to find it real fast we'll end on that
I hope I want to we should reelect
Obama and he should just like
day one, be like, we're collecting all the
white babies, and I'm
giving them to the immigrants.
I'm sending them to Venezuela.
Oh, here. I got it. Uh, go to YouTube
and search render unto
Obama.
I need your money
to kill babies by abortion.
You, taxpayer.
Give me your money to pay
a baby killing.
No, I don't believe in abortion.
I don't care.
Render to Caesar what to Caesar's.
Give me money to kill babies.
All right, all right.
I'll pay you.
Don't hit me anymore.
Please, please, kill my baby.
Kill my baby.
You kill that woman's baby.
Who's the audio listener?
yes yes you kill that woman's baby
the woman who said kill my baby
said need money for a boob job i want a boob job
and i do remember this uh because this resurfaced recently the guy's wearing a mask
but um that is now the uh i believe he works under robert kennedy now at the director
of health and human services. Oh, that's good. No, I'm joking. Oh. But that's basically, these guys are,
the administration is full of these guys. Well, they let guys like this govern and now this is what.
Well, and this is what politics and discourse used to be, which I'm totally okay with. You got four
weirdos doing a weird kind of, uh, demonstration in front of the White House. Knock yourselves out.
But now these people each have like a million followers in a fucking podcast and they're, they're, you know,
You should write an op-ed in the New York Times that Randall Terry was practicing politics in exactly the right way.
Is that who that is?
Yeah, I just got to watch it one more time.
I need your money to kill babies by abortion.
You, tax payer.
Give me your money to pay for baby killing.
No, I don't believe in abortion.
I don't care.
Render to Caesar, what to Caesar.
Give me money to kill babies.
All right.
All right, I'll pay you.
Don't hit me anymore.
Please, please, kill my baby.
Kill my baby.
You kill that woman's baby.
Dude.
Yes.
It's honestly a perfect...
I love the look at the camera.
It's so fucking good.
Yes.
This is...
Oh my God.
See, now, again, if it were 2025, she would have a podcast.
They would both have a podcast, and they'd probably be influential within the fucking, what?
I'd tune in.
I want to know what these people have to say.
I mean...
I need to kill my baby.
I need a boob job.
Just, and nobody cares.
Nobody's, like, looking, paying them any attention.
They're just fringe weirdos.
And that's what this country used to be.
Do we know who these people are?
I need to know what they're...
They must be thrilled now.
Yes.
Yes.
The doctor just...
Randall Terry.
16 years ago.
These guys have gotten exactly what they wanted.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Randall Terry.
Was Stephen Steve Huffman.
He was holding a protest sign with the same phrase.
All right.
Anyway, well, folks, that's it for this week.
We'll see you next week.
And like we always say, render unto Obama.
Render unto Obama.
And we'll see you in the bonus.
Ben and Emelshow.com.
Doug's going to be there.
Won't you?
Won't you?
Coming up on this week's episode of Ben and Amel Show.com.
Yeah, you had it at a hospital.
It's got records and stuff.
Then, yeah.
But.
But on the way to New York, the big city,
Wait, what?
You and your wife hucked a baby out the window.
What is happening?
Who would find out?
Nobody in the city knows that you had a baby.
Whoever finds that baby?
Yeah, but the baby's never found.
A bear eats it.
What is your hypothetical here?
Yeah, but the records, who's checking up?
It's not like they're going, huh?
Oh, I mean.
The baby hasn't paid taxes.
Not kissing each other.
I'm like, do you guys, are you attracted to each other?
Yeah, you got to see if you taste good.
You got to smooch each other.
Yeah, you got to smooch.
Must smooch.
Smooch.
Aren't you guys going crazy too?
Doug still won't lick me.
And she was like, no, I don't think so.
He does another lap.
I see him.
I see the black shorts.
I see the shirtless guy.
It was so clearly him.
And like I just had a second of, if she says that that's not him, I think I'm going to have like a mental breakdown because it's just so obviously him.
I got a good one for you.
He doesn't even care.
