The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 121: The White House Memo that Could Put Us in Jail

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Well it's been nice knowing you guys but according to the new White House Memorandum we violate quite a few laws and are likely subject to arrest and imprisonment. In this episode we'll go over the na...sty details. Give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed it! And please leave us a comment! It helps us! ***Ben's new movies and tv podcast with Dillon is OUT NOW! GO WATCH the latest episode on THE HIGH SCHOOL CATFISH here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC1wfcB6c2E **CHECK OUT EMIL'S LIVESTREAMS HERE: https://www.youtube.com/emilderosa Support us and get bonus content, ad-free versions and more plus your first 7 days free at https://benandemilshow.com __ SOME OTHER VIDEOS YOU MAY ENJOY: That's Cringe of Cody Ko: https://youtu.be/dTbEk0pVh2w Our AUSTIN VIDEO: https://youtu.be/yGSs56bFzRU Our episode with Kyla Scanlon: https://youtu.be/cIHWkY35cuc Big Tech is out of ideas (ft. ED ZITRON): https://youtu.be/zBvVGHZBpMw Arguing with a millionaire (ft. Chris Camillo): https://youtu.be/1ZUWTkWV_MM We bought suits HERE: https://youtu.be/_cM1XqA9n2U ***LINK TO OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/CjujBt8g ***Subscribe to Emil's Substack: https://substack.com/@emilderosa ***Trade with Ben at https://tradertreehouse.com __ FACTOR MEALS: Eat smart at https://factormeals.com/baes50off and use code "baes50off" to get 50% off your first box, PLUS FREE BREAKFAST FOR ONE YEAR! MOOMOO: Click this link https://start.moomoo.com/BAES to get up to $1,000 in free stock when you make a qualified deposit. Terms and Conditions apply. Securities are offered through Moomoo Financial Inc. (MFI), Member FINRA/SIPC. The creator is a paid influencer and is not affiliated with MFI and their experiences may not be representative of other moomoo users. Investing is risky. See full disclosures at https://invest.us.moomoo.com/_disclosure RIDGE: Upgrade your wallet today! Get 10% off @ridge with code BAES at http://ridge.com/baes #ridgepod __ Follow us on instagram! @ benandemilshow @ bencahn @ emilderosa Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 But we're going to be talking a little bit about N-S-P-M-7. When I first started seeing it in the feed, I was like, I don't know, I can't keep up with all this. And then as he kept talking about it, I looked into it and I was like, I mean, this show as a whole might be able to be classified as a... We are bad boys. As a terrorist. Why, give me some examples. Extremism on race. Hey.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Extremism on gender. Who else up late writing trans ideology on their bullets? I'd be cooked. I mean, the amount of donations I've made to the campaign candidates. card-carrying member of the Democratic Socialist of America. That's not really good for me. But I mean, why not? The benefits are crazy.
Starting point is 00:00:36 I'm even eye on some of those bonuses. Those student loan forgiveness. I'm like, should I freaking mask up? Oh, great. So now I got to pay for your student loan because you want to beat up a Mexican guy. Maybe we should start having people report us so that we can gain some... No, don't do that. This is...
Starting point is 00:00:53 Some popularity. I find this all... I'll die on a cross. Sorry, was that anti-Christian? I'm working on time We made it on me Tell me what's going on Tell me what's gone on
Starting point is 00:01:09 You want to hit the Tobata I figured we made we would just freak it You know No time Time is an illusion We don't need it We'll just podcast forever Time doesn't exist
Starting point is 00:01:25 We'll podcast forever Never never Oh geez Wow, no more beeps. Welcome back, everyone. I can turn the beeps on. You want the beeps? No, I don't want the beeps on. Unless beep heads want it. Sound off. Beephead sound off. We don't want it deprive you. Emile ate, what was that, a veggie burrito?
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Starting point is 00:05:40 Ben andamielshow.com. If you're interested in any of that, but we've got to get right into it. We're going to be talking about, and before we even get into it, got to do a big shout to Ken Klippenstein because he really I don't think anyone would be even talking about this. We're going to be talking about N. S. Clippy himself. What's that? Clippy himself. Is that what he calls himself? I don't know. I'm calling him right now. All right, great.
Starting point is 00:06:02 But we're going to be talking a little bit about NSPM 7. If you actually go to Ken's Twitter real quick, you'll see he's been I brought this up, I think, in the bonus last week. I was asking, but I couldn't even remember the I couldn't even remember the acronym.
Starting point is 00:06:19 But I was like, did you see this thing? National Security Presidential Memorandum. He's even changed his name to Ken Kliberstein, NSPM 7 compliant. And if you just scroll through his head shaped like a pair. His whole thing is basically just asking people to talk about NSPM 7 and begging people to. And honestly, look, if Congress was to say anything about this at all, that'd be great. And that's because this
Starting point is 00:06:49 National Security Directive National Security Presidential Memorandum 7 Why is it 7? I don't know. Maybe it doesn't make it doesn't make sense to call it the seventh one because there was one called like NSPMB
Starting point is 00:07:04 I don't so usually these are classified and not released to the public like this. It's very strange for them oftentimes they come out years later there were there were ones from the Carter administration post 9-11 Bush ones
Starting point is 00:07:19 were a big one where they were released like years later there was one under Biden yeah but they're normally not just put out like this it's not an executive order it's this thing called
Starting point is 00:07:32 the National Security Directive yeah it's not a law it's a it's a policy direction he's directing policy under within the bounds of the law just kind of saying hey it would be like saying hey parking enforcement go
Starting point is 00:07:49 out and i want you to enforce meters on this side of town specifically it's like it's not a except he's talking to law enforcement pretty much every agency and saying we're going to start stamping out left wing extremism while labeling pretty much everything we don't like left wing extremism yeah when i first started seeing it in the feet, I was like, I don't know, I can't keep up with all this. And then as he kept talking about it, I looked into it and I was like, oh, wow, you know what, we might, we might be able to be classified. Oh, you and I. I mean, this show as a whole might be able to be classified as a, we are bad boys.
Starting point is 00:08:31 As a terrorist. Why, give me some examples. Well, so he goes on to list some of the indications of violence among, um, among these left-wing extremists. Anti-Americanism. I think there might be some... We've done that kind of thing before. Anti-capitalism?
Starting point is 00:08:52 That one might be... There was a lot of CCP as strong. Those were jokes. Okay? Anti-Christianity. I don't know if we've ever been anti-Christian necessarily. Have we? Explicitly?
Starting point is 00:09:07 We've made jokes. We definitely on an earlier iteration of this show were the, we would refer to ourselves as the only Christian finance podcast. Well, then we're definitely not Christian, or not anti-Christian, because we're the only Christian finance podcast. I think they might say we were made, when we made Vlad do a prayer with us. Oh, right. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:09:25 Who knows? We should have bought so much Robin Hood stock after that. I mean, Jesus. We'd be millionaires. Support for the overthrow of the United States government. Yeah, check that. Yeah. Extremism on migration.
Starting point is 00:09:41 I don't know about that. I don't know if we've ever said anything. Extremism on race. Okay. Extremism on gender. Who else up late writing trans ideology on their bullets? Hostility towards those who hold traditional American... It's so vague.
Starting point is 00:09:57 It's so vague. It's so broad. Hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family. I guess man, woman. Hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion. Oh, okay. Hustility towards those who old traditional American views on morality. I mean, this could be construed- Anything, which is what we're going to get to why this is especially heinous and a little bit on the scary side, because obviously these definitions are
Starting point is 00:10:28 wildly open to any kind of interpretation. And very, I mean, like we were saying, there's been these national security directives before, but Ben's favorite Trump administration official, Stephen Miller said, this is the first time in American history that there is an all, there's an all of government effort to dismantle left wing terrorism. Yeah. They're coming for us. Yeah, we have, I mean, we've definitely threatened, or not threatened, but we've, we've joked about sending a certain type of package to the White House, a certain, you know, blowing up things, and we've made jokes about that. So, am I worried? No, not at all. I don't think anything. I think we're too small of a fish. But, you know, maybe we should start, uh, maybe we should start having people
Starting point is 00:11:15 report us so that we can gain some. No, don't do that. This, this is, some popularity. I find this all, I'll die in a cross. Sorry, was that anti-Christian? I'll die on a cross for this bullshit. He explicitly, uh, you know, in the, in the memo, he explicitly calls out the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's in the very first section. Even in the aftermath of the horrifying assassination of Charlie Kirk, some individuals who adhered to the alleged shooter's ideology embraced and cheered this evil murder
Starting point is 00:11:44 while actively encouraging more political violence. So it's just a freedom of speech thing. Yeah, like... He also calls out his own... Oh, he calls out the Luigi Manjone stuff. He calls out his own two assassination attempts. He calls out Brett Kavanaugh,
Starting point is 00:12:01 which I completely forgot about. That one really 22. I looked it up. that one that one flew too under the radar it's so weird the person went with a plan
Starting point is 00:12:15 with weapons to go they went to his house with a plan to kill him and then all the sudden they called the cops on themselves whoa what and turn themselves in they said you know I feel bad
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Starting point is 00:14:34 name checks the riots in Los Angeles and Portland, which is such a cop-out. I mean, calling them riots. Sure, there have been moments of, I don't know, people... It's protesting, but everything that's protests now is categorized as riots to these guys. Also protesting that the police departments in every city has never not had a handle on.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Yeah. It never was like... Well, that's what they're doing. We need reinforcements here. Any instance, be it, that's what's alarming about this, is any instance of dissent, whether it just be vocalizing, verbalizing that dissent, or demonstrating in the streets, this is this memorandum, memoranda, singular. It's funny you say that because this, did you read through this whole thing?
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah. It's full of the, I highlighted all my favorite. For such an anti-entering. intellectual administration and going after professors and universities and stuff, they really try to, they do a funny job with a couple of the plurals of these words. Like what? It just reminded when you said memoranda. So they go, these campaigns often begin by isolating and dehumanizing specific targets
Starting point is 00:15:56 to justify murder or other violent action against them. They do so through a variety of fora instead of forums. I've never heard someone who goes on to say. I know. And in the same sentence, they said, including anonymous chat forums. Which one is it, dickhead? And then the very next paragraph, there are common recurrent motivations and indicia. You can just say indications?
Starting point is 00:16:19 Yeah, wow. I just graduated law school and I really... Unbelievable. That's what it reads like. But they really, I mean, they're giving so much credit to... Antifa? I mean, I don't even want to say Antifa because I'm like, does this thing even exist? Is this a, but the political violence is not a series of isolated incidents and does not emerge organically. Instead, it's a culmination of sophisticated, organized campaigns of targeted
Starting point is 00:16:45 intimidation, radicalization, threats, and violence designed to silence, opposing speech, limit political activity, change or direct policy outcomes, and prevent the functioning of a democratic society. Obviously, I'm very biased. I don't know. So, if the left was that organized, that'd be thrilled. This, honestly, what he's describing is the right. Yeah. Like Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk was able to do that because he was so funded by right-wing billionaires. And he was able to have such a massive impact because he was backed by big donors.
Starting point is 00:17:20 The left obviously doesn't have that because the left is often talking about things like billionaire shouldn't exist or we should redistribute wealth in those things. So why would they do that in the first place? This just, this doesn't exist. This is... Well, to me, it's the next logical step in the George Soros thing, which is true. He's donated money to Democrat and left-wing groups and protests and stuff. But I don't think that that necessarily means that there's targeted intimidation, radicalization, threats, and violence. uh that are sophisticated and i mean and as we talked about charlie kirk's turning point
Starting point is 00:18:03 usa released their list of uh they do this they released they released lists of professors academics journalists whoever which are basically just harassment lists and um many people after he died came forward and was like you know i i'm not going to eulogize this man i mean he's ruined my life there's a guy just uh ruckers university in new jersey Mark Bray He Hi, Mark Bray Rutgers University
Starting point is 00:18:31 He I believe it was a targeted campaign From the Turning Point USA chapter At Rutgers University He announced He's leaving The school and moving his family to Europe Because they are getting so many
Starting point is 00:18:45 credible death threats Wow man Because he teaches You know the history of fascism The history of genders The history of bathrooms He teaches trans stuff Yeah
Starting point is 00:18:55 Yeah Yeah, here you got. Rutgers Professor moving to Europe after threats over Antifa accusations. You're Antifa. You're Antifa. He did write a book. I think he wrote a book called I'm Antifa by... I think it's called Antifa, like the anti-fascist... Man, the anti-fascist guidebook or something like that. Aye. Well, that paragraph goes on to say, a new law enforcement strategy that investigates all participants in these criminal and terroristic conspiracies,
Starting point is 00:19:24 including the organized structures, networks, entities, organizations, funding sources, and predicate actions behind them is required. So again, a massive match of massive catch-all. Like what constitutes a network entity organization funding source? Like if you donate 20 bucks to your local church or your local whatever, yeah, church or whatever. And that church happens to also have had a rally in support of something left wing against ice or something, they can, they have the grounds to then say, well, that's, that's, that's your, you're, you're funding terrorism and criminal conspiracy. Yeah, I mean, anything can be, they can warp whatever they want to fit this legal, uh, this legal narrative. I'd be cooked. I mean, the amount of, uh,
Starting point is 00:20:23 donations i've made oh yeah candidates the brother i mean card carrying member of the democratic social social subrera brother brother that's not really good for me yeah these campaigns are coordinated
Starting point is 00:20:35 and perpetrated by actors emil who have developed who have developed a comprehensive strategy to achieve specific policy goals through radicalization and violent intimidation these movements portray foundational american principles
Starting point is 00:20:52 E.G. the support for law enforcement and border control as fascist to justify and encourage acts of violent revolution. How about the fact that you guys are, you're doing the exact same thing, but in the opposite. Your support for law enforcement and border control, you take it to the fucking nth degree to justify just kidnapping people off the streets and shit. And the latest thing, I don't know if you heard about this, but there's apparently been a couple of ice agents and feds and stuff have been doxed and there's bounties on their heads for like $2,000 to catch them alive. I think it's cartels. That's what they were reporting on the radio. Cartels are putting bounties on ice agents. 10 grand to kill them and like 2 grand to kidnap them.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And that's... I don't have to verify that. That's... I mean, who knows? I'd believe it. And that's why they're like, oh, that's why we got to remain anonymous. Sure, fine.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Whatever. Even if we take that, the biggest issue is... Well, not the biggest issue. But when you see people... What's to stop? anybody from just putting on a mask and kidnapping someone that they don't like
Starting point is 00:22:18 or someone that they want to sexually assault or someone that they want to just flat out kidnap. Yes, this is the exact reason we don't allow these things. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean it's not entirely clear that these that we haven't just seen proud boys members or
Starting point is 00:22:34 I'm sure a bunch of them are former proud boys. That's true. I mean, I'm sure they've just gone legit at this point and have signed up. I mean, why not? The benefits are crazy. I'm even I and some of those those student loan forgiveness I'm like should I freaking mask up
Starting point is 00:22:50 Oh great So now I got to pay for your student loan Because you want to beat up a Mexican guy I'm just kidding I would not do that It is crazy that That is how we're doing student loan forgiveness though But yeah
Starting point is 00:23:02 The bonuses they offer all this stuff I mean The Whoever Anyone who has joined ICE in the past month two months, whatever. I mean,
Starting point is 00:23:14 has to be one of the most... Oh, they're depraved. Yeah, it's... Depraved, lonely, angry, vengeful. So, yeah, I mean, it's either... Sad. It's either vigilantes who are
Starting point is 00:23:26 just doing this unsanctioned or... But why even bother doing that when you can go legit, get paid, get bonuses? Yeah. They're doing huge recruitment cycles. It's going to be one of the only jobs
Starting point is 00:23:38 left in the country. But yeah, I mean... I'm sure your feet is full of the... It's full. Just... And watching some of them, there was one that went very viral of them, of, they chased the guys off.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Did you see them? They're trying to grab a guy. Yeah. And they... Those guys looked so unprofessional and so poorly trained. And a lot of people were pointing out, like, are these guys even law enforcement at this point? Like, or are these just hobbyists?
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Starting point is 00:26:13 things together is it's just the confluence of things making it vastly easier to target immigrants, target people who oppose any of this stuff, target political dissidents. When I was looking this up, I didn't really know who Miles Taylor was, but he wrote about this. And apparently he was the chief of staff for the Department of Homeland Security in the first Trump administration. And he's pissed about this. But I do have to say this, I have an issue with this. I have an issue with It bugs me. But this is from him, someone who worked in Homeland Security. I love that you, you're sorry, real fast. You just did Trump. I know, I did. I didn't mean, I know. I realized literally right after I did it. Donald Trump just made a vastly easier for his
Starting point is 00:26:56 agencies to add Americans to the terrorist watch list, track them secretly, pervasively without due process. It allows them, in effect, to add U.S. citizens by the thousands to the terrorist watch list itself for minor legal infractions or none at all. Here's what people don't realize. you have to be tied to a foreign terrorist group to end up on the U.S. terrorist watch list, formally called the terrorist screening database maintained by the FBI's terrorist screening center. There's no statute passed by Congress that limits it to people connected to violent overseas groups like ISIS. Instead, it's based on policies set by the executive branch. The Trump administration has just blown the potential criteria wide open.
Starting point is 00:27:33 The new order not only empowers the administration to treat U.S. political organizations or non-profits as terrorist selves under sweeping and ambiguous criteria, i.e. basically anyone they use legalese to decry as an extremist group, but it also permits agencies to consider an individual as a domestic terrorism suspect for even indirectly encouraging violence or
Starting point is 00:27:53 infractions like trespassing and vandalism. I would say basically every, even like Normie Libs can be considered. On Twitter and Facebook are going to be able to be added to these things. I mean, just the way, just seeing response.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Post United Health Care CEO? Seeing response. Pretty much everyone in America has. Yeah. Which is like, okay, come on, you guys. What are you going to do? Arrest half of America? There goes your damn economy.
Starting point is 00:28:25 And he basically said exactly what you're talking about. Imagine a Democratic mayor in a small Midwestern town. She organizes a peaceful rally with a guest speaker whom Trump's DOJ later claims is tied to Antifa. Under Trump's order, the mayor would theoretically be flagged as an associate of a domestic terrorist, which alone could be enough to nominate the mayor as a known or suspected terrorist in the TSDB or terrorist watch list without even knowing it and eventually upend her life. I'm so tired of this like, ah, but Trump's not going to do that. He's all bluster.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Trump's not going to do that. It's all just words. He's just exaggerating. This is what he does. And now we're at the point where you can't really use that anymore at all. Do you see that Joe Rogan and the fucking chin, chin diaper beard guy, what's his name? Theo Vaughan. Oh, they're all coming out and being like, whoa, I didn't vote for this. Let me say from the bottom of my heart, I didn't vote for this, okay?
Starting point is 00:29:18 Oh, you absolute moron. When I saw people, when I saw people shaking signs at his thing that said mass deportations now, I thought he was going to do it peacefully. I thought he was going to be kind about it. I just didn't want girls, boys playing girls baseball. That's all shoot.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Shoot, I'm Theo Vaughn. Boy, I don't know anything. saying, hey, I'm just trying to be, I'm just trying to be a good guy here. Shut the fuck up, Theo Vaughn. And he's pissed that now they're using his clips in their... Yeah, I hope they keep using them. I mean... I hope he gets death threats.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Not only that, I mean, he had the guy on. He goes down and has the... Boy, you ever try cocaine? Wow, that'll have you sitting on a street pole like a damn owl. Very good, Theo. Good job, Theo. He goes to the inauguration, so does Joe Biden. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Joe Rogan. he's like doing prank videos at the inauguration with the what are those moron brothers oh the Paul brothers the Paul brothers
Starting point is 00:30:14 just like you made your bed Theo you gotta lie in it just fucking we're just ruled by idiots man but that's honestly I think this is the no one has any
Starting point is 00:30:27 responsibility for their consequences that's why I'm saying this guy's response to to this memo really pissed me off. This guy, Miles Taylor, because at the end, he said, as someone who's helped build the nation's counterterrorism architecture, I'm telling you that it's now being primed for potentially unimaginable abuse. Indeed, it could become the central
Starting point is 00:30:49 nervous system of Trump's surveillance state against the political opposition. Unless insiders blow the whistle, we might not know how expansive the targeting of innocent Americans becomes for many years to come since terrorist watch list itself and the process surrounding it are kept secret. It's just so ridiculous to be like, as someone who tried to build this massive surveillance system that, hey, we didn't know some crazy guy was going to get a hold of. And hijack it. I mean, this is basically my entire life. Post 9-11, since I had like an actual somewhat political conscious, people on the left have been railing against the Patriot Act, the War on Terror, all these expanding things, even through Obama. Obama
Starting point is 00:31:32 was expanding his own powers and people were going, hey, those aren't going to go away when someone else gets in office. And now all these people are like, as a good liberal who made all these things possible, I'm appalled that they're being used like this. And it's like, my God. I mean, ICE is the biggest one. People were, you know, people were kind of laughed at when people remember the abolish ICE movement? Oh, yeah. A decade ago, they were like, what are you talking about? they've been vindicated yeah thousands of times over
Starting point is 00:32:06 I feel bad for the guy in ice who's just customs he's the customs part not immigration and he's just like I just make sure they don't bring frogs and grain into the airport
Starting point is 00:32:15 I'm not one of the bad guys I'm just checking for frogs and bugs and stuff that poor guy have you seen the frog the Chicago frog the Chicago frog oh yeah they pepper sprayed
Starting point is 00:32:29 the fucking I did pepper spray him, but he often, like, there's other videos of him going and taunting them, and he's kind of just like, you know, shaking his hips. Yeah, that's great. I love that. You love the frog. What's, what's frustrating to me is all these, you get to see, it's like Warren Buffett says, when, when the tide goes out, you, you get to finally see who's been swimming naked
Starting point is 00:32:51 in reference to, like, who's got their balance sheet over leveraged when the easy money policies go away. and like which companies are set to fail. In a similar sense, when push comes to shove politically and the political tide goes out, so to speak, you get to see who's been like morally swimming naked and who is so inconsistent in their political beliefs, i.e., the gun lovers, the states rights people, the reason we have guns is to go after a tyrannical government. it's like sending federal... Yeah, where's your militias, yo? Dude, this is exactly what they were warning against. And what they're like, this is why we need guns. Dude, I mean, it's federalized troops and federal agents.
Starting point is 00:33:41 No, but they like it now. I know, that's what's... Greg Abbott of Texas. Texas Governor Greg Abbott is sending 400 National Guardsmen from Texas out to Illinois. And they send these guys out there, and then there's protests and pushback, and then they use that protest and pushback to justify. their presence there. It's just one big circle jerk.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Oh, like this is, this is your federal government overstepping its bounds to a T. You couldn't, this is your perfect setup. And I have seen some people out there like really saying this is wrong and conservatives everywhere need to like step up and say something. But are they
Starting point is 00:34:17 going to fucking do that? And go on boys suit up. I just hope that we don't get at. I'd love to see some ice on militia. Well, I guess it's like, It's like that tweet says. It's like the same reason you never see Hannah Montana and Miley Cyrus in the same room.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Wow, what a comparison. You know, ICE versus cops. It's like, it's like, well, you never see Hannah Montana and Miley Cyrus is the same. No, no, ice versus militia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you understand? Yeah, it's because they're one in the same.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah, yeah. The militias have just been like, great. Man, I still just can't stop. Why don't we just go get good government jobs? Get good government jobs. We'll get health care. Some of us went to college. We want those loans forgiven.
Starting point is 00:35:01 You'd be, you'd be, well, you'd be furloughed right now. Well, they're not furloughed. Oh, that's right. Yeah, they're one of the few. The few, the proud, the ice. We have no government. We just have rogue, you know, secret police. In jeans.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Loyal to Trump at all costs. Yeah. Trump could fuck these guys' wives, and they'd be like, man. I'd vote for you a third time. Thank you for that. You made her come harder than I ever could. Just to hammer this home for people to understand what this means for everyone. This is still from Miles.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Being nominated to the list can make it easier for your movements to be monitored, your bank accounts to be frozen or closed, deny you jobs, visas or security clearances, and or track your communications and financial transactions across agencies, often without a warrant and usually without your knowledge. Well, as part of the memorandum on Section 2, they've got this thing called the National Joint Terrorism Task Force, or the JTTFs. They shall coordinate and supervise a comprehensive national strategy to investigate, prosecute, and disrupt entities and individuals engaged in acts of political violence and intimidation designed to suppress lawful political activity or obstruct the rule of law. Again, a very blanket definition that, you know, anybody, they could easily find a way to say that you were engaging in political violence or conspiracy. The JT, this is one part I didn't like, one of many, the JTFs shall consult and coordinate with executive departments and agencies as needed to determine whether such agencies can apply existing authorities or exercise.
Starting point is 00:36:50 their own authorities as appropriate to support the JTTF's investigations and relevant prosecutions of political violence. So it's just kind of like, hey, do your own thing. You know, exercise your own, your best judgment for how you want to, unless you want to work with us. But otherwise, hey, whatever you do is A. Okay with us. Hey, gang, we've got to take one last little break here to talk about your wallet. Can I have your wallet please give it to us give it to us no but ha ha i'm just kidding you know i remember back when i was a we lad uh just a few months short months ago when i had a big fat wad for a wallet it was pathetic i had a leather behemoth i didn't even i would take it out of my pocket every time i sat down
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Starting point is 00:39:23 After your purchase, they'll ask you where you heard about them. So please support our show and tell them that we sent you. I mean, he talked about it when he was, maybe it was last time we went live. We were talking about that big presentation with all the generals with Heggseth and Trump, like 500 generals down in Virginia. This is the most pathetic. But he mentioned it.
Starting point is 00:39:47 He said, this is going to be a big, this is going to be a big thing for the people in this room. Because it's an enemy from within and we have to handle it before it gets out of control. It won't get out of control once you're involved at all. And just so people are aware, because I tend to forget that not everybody's online and on Twitter and stuff. But I actually didn't really know this. But the military is famously supposed to be completely politically new. neutral. And Trump and Hegeseth and everybody, they've really been, and it, this is what's concerning is like all these little pieces are coming into place. And it just, you can't help
Starting point is 00:40:28 what's coming, but wonder what comes next. Because they're very much trying to politicize the branches of government by addressing all these generals and admirals and stuff and saying, we've got an enemy from within. And then just at the, I guess it was the Navy's birthday. that's why Trump was addressing all the sailors. I'm sorry. I forgot to send the card. I know. I didn't send the Navy anything. But he goes up, Trump went up there and said, we got to deal with a little problem, a little gnat on our shoulder known as the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Not the left, not the radical left, but just the Democrats. That's why I feel good that I don't consider myself a Democrat. Thank you, Trump. I'll see you out there, pal. But just to finish up with this memoranda. the Attorney General shall issue specific guidance that ensures domestic terrorism priorities include politically motivated terrorist acts, acts such as, so all of these are going to be considered politically motivated terrorist attacks. It's basically minority report pre-crime bullshit.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Yeah. Organized doxing campaigns, swatting, rioting, looting, trespass, assault, destruction of property, threats of violence, and civil disorder. What would constitute civil disorder? What would constitute trespass or assault? Could it be verbal if you, if you yell at a cop or say just the wrong thing? Could they say, I feel threatened and then take you down and get you arrested? Who the fuck knows? Do you hold traditional American morals? Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:41:55 What are those? In the course of and as a result of the investigations directed by Section 2 of this memorandum, the Attorney General may recommend that any group or entity whose members are engaged in activities meeting the definition of domestic terrorism merits designation as a domestic terrorist organization. The attorney general shall submit a list of any such groups or entities to the president through the assistant to the president and Homeland Security Advisor. So now we're talking about making lists of people. And the Attorney General is going to give said list to Trump and the Homeland Security Advisor. So that's nice. They'll just have a list
Starting point is 00:42:35 of everybody. Just like Charlie Kirk's toilet paper USA had. Let's see. One last thing. The Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall designate domestic terrorism a national priority area and develop appropriate grant programs to allocate funding for law enforcement partners to detect, prevent, and protect against threats arising from this area. God bless you. God bless America. God bless Jesus Christ. and God bless traditional American values. 1488, we must ensure a white future for our white children. And thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:43:15 And God bless you. And God bless the unborn babies. And no, say no to abortion. Donald Trump. Just say no to abortion. And that's how they signed it off. That's crazy. Yeah. God bless.
Starting point is 00:43:28 And I do think for that little bit you did, you're going to jail, pal. Yeah, probably. Jesus Christ. I think they might find bullets that's a trans ideology on it in your house. Oh, boy. There's a popular meme format, in particular in, like, white supremacist, nationalists groups. And this format, it looks like it's a still from a VHS tape from the late 80s or 90s. And it's meant to...
Starting point is 00:43:57 Oh, yeah, we've talked about this. Yeah, it's meant to elicit feelings of nostalgia for... a time long gone, a time that they often decry as being stolen from you, taken from you, due to globalization, due to woke, due to black people and illegal immigrants and stuff. If it wasn't for woke, you would have a wife right now.
Starting point is 00:44:19 That's the reason you don't. Oh yeah. The reason why well, yeah, it's because some Mexican guy came and took your wife before you could even meet her. They're taking our wives. It's because Bad Bunny doesn't speak English very well. But they they they they pine for this bygone era which interestingly enough usually involves advertisements it's usually around old magazine ads television ads because they're just a for some reason they're singularly obsessed with ads and how back then ads used to have like white families
Starting point is 00:44:55 and a white mother and a white father and there was no multiracialism shoved down our throats and they they long for this time that may not have ever even really existed for them. I don't think it ever... That's a thing. I mean, I've said it before. I think they're just stupid
Starting point is 00:45:09 and they're like, I saw it on TV. That's what it was like. I missed that. Everyone, they lived like leave it to Beaver. Their dads were nice to them. My dad was horrible to me.
Starting point is 00:45:20 And they had a nice mom. My mom left me because my dad was drunk. And they just think things they saw on the TV where they, every time, was better than it is now. Everything
Starting point is 00:45:32 about history was great because they consider themselves just an elite that has been downtrodden by something. But if it was just any other era, you know, if they could go back to ancient Greece, they wouldn't be
Starting point is 00:45:48 the philosophers butt boys in the spas, but they would be the philosophers themselves. They'd be the ones fucking the butt boys. Right. Yeah. Go back to that tweet, though. Because in this image you got a couple of Apache helicopters
Starting point is 00:46:02 flying over what appears to be a NASCAR race and it says recapture our national identity you see UScIS.gov slash join in the Homeland Security tweeted this and says victory is within reach now let's click the Homeland Security thing
Starting point is 00:46:18 because they've been just on a fucking tear. They truly must have click media. You do have to give it to Christy Noam though for someone who looks to be continuously getting stung by bees. She's doing a of a lot of work. Oh, yeah. The poor woman. It seems like no matter where she goes,
Starting point is 00:46:34 she's bumping into a... I mean, they're doing... Look at these. Wasp's nest. Look at this. Click one of those. The America calls. America calls. Join ICE now. And it's... It's Lady Liberty holding a white lady liberty. It's just there... I mean,
Starting point is 00:46:50 I wouldn't even call these dog whistles anymore. I just call them fucking whistles, dude. These are full-blown, you know, white supremac propaganda. Yeah. Click out of the list. Let's find. another one that's like that doing you know world war two era propaganda to get you to join the war against your fellow citizens it's that Europa shit that packs Europa shit um and they think that's going I that's what I'm saying where people anyone who's joined in the last couple months or whatever these are only going to appeal to just the most depraved oh yeah stinky guys like the
Starting point is 00:47:26 Stinkiest, stinky guys. America calling. Join. This is full-blown Nazi shit. It'd be great if it was like, hey, learn a trade or like join the cause for building factories. I'd be all for it. Oh, go to the homestead one.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Go down to the right there that on the left. The Pioneer's Home. We are the ones who create. It's just all this white shit. it's um it's bananas man it's really bananas i saw one the other day that has since gotten deleted but it was uh it was something about um we want the america we want the america that only had a hundred million people and it was just a bunch of clips from the 90s of like white guys in the olympics and which is they they are so good at making it seem like america
Starting point is 00:48:17 was was and always had been purely white and it wasn't brother until 2008 we barracco Obama got elected and he made everyone black somehow. And we just wanted to go back. We just wanted to go back. Yeah. But, um, sorry, I'm chewing ice. Nice, dude. Chew ice.
Starting point is 00:48:40 No, no, I don't want to do that. Uh, yeah, that's, so... Don't join ice. Chew ice. Chew ice. Uh, anyway, it's, it's bad stuff. It's bad vibes. And you got, you got fucking, uh,
Starting point is 00:48:55 What's his name? Let's click the F-A-F-O of Captain Dipshit of the fuckhead militia. Pete Hegseth addressing the military, expecting a round of applause after he says this. In other words, to our enemies. F-A-F-O. I want to do my own Pete Hegseth here. In other words, to our enemies. L.M. A.O.
Starting point is 00:49:30 That's a president I would get behind. A president bringing the he-hees ha-haz? Or B-B-W. Big beautiful woman. Oh, sure, sure, sure. He's just into large women. I was immediately going Star Wars. I thought you were going to say BB8.
Starting point is 00:49:47 He fucking, he was expecting... In other words, R2. D-2. Mine sucked. the one that I just did, but he Fafel, of course, stands for Fuck Around, Find Out, which has been a rallying cry and
Starting point is 00:50:03 a punctuation mark on many of these guys's statements as it pertains. Which it wasn't always. I remember being very, I mean, just finding it frustrating. It was like an act of fool at a party or a club. You fuck around, you find out, you get knocked out. I don't know being very tired of
Starting point is 00:50:19 seeing it online in like 2020 of like but the proud boys totally co-opted. I know. Or you go out there and you protest us? Fuck around. Find it. Just fuck you. I will say, as goofy as these guys are, we are finding out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:34 But it was just entertaining because he assumed that all these generals were just as online as he is. And I'm sure most of them were like, what the fuck are you talking about, dude? Don't drag your online shit and try to make, ugh. When people try to co-mingle and race mix, if you, will online and in person. It's the cringiest shit. Oh, yeah, it's extremely cringy. When you, when you, when you're bringing that, F-AFO belongs online. It doesn't belong in real life. Don't do that. That's, that's the crux of the problem, really. So much online, they've been desperately trying to bring into the real world. Dude, it's the Twitter podcast
Starting point is 00:51:14 administration. Yeah. The entire, um, yeah, I don't think this is popular. They've unfortunately captured power. Um, and it's going to be extremely hard to wrested away from them but this is not popular yeah and stephen miller who speaks with his bottom teeth you like him right oh i love him so much he's so hot i thought you said he's at least the one guy who's doing good stuff he's at least the one guy who's trying to do a good job if the woke will get out of his way i will say i think he's trying to do a good job and he wants to be a little good boy for Trump. Of course he does.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Yeah. He's a, he's, he really is, um, who was, was it gerbils? Who was like, oh yeah, he's certainly, Hitler's like right hand, who, the propaganda guy. Was it Gerbils? He's, he's a little weasley rat boy, gerbils. And he's the one who's been really, this, it's been racking around, rattling around. Rattling around my brain. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:52:19 about how what's scary about I think what's scariest about Trump arguably is the fact that he delegates so much of of his responsibilities to others. And that's been his calling card for the longest time.
Starting point is 00:52:33 I'm a good businessman. I'm a smart businessman. On The Apprentice, it was all about like he's got his sons there and Ivanka and he's like, I hire the smartest people because I'm really good at that
Starting point is 00:52:44 and then they handle everything. And that's what he's been doing and it feels like and I'm not the only one to think of this or pointed out, but a lot of people have been noting that it really increasingly feels like this is Stephen Miller's like pet, not even pet project,
Starting point is 00:52:59 but entire basis for fucking living right now. And he's just, and Trump has probably just been like, you go wild, you're my little pit bull, you're my good little boy, get out there and do whatever needs to be done, go on TV,
Starting point is 00:53:12 say whatever needs to be said. Yeah, he wants to be a good little boy. Oh, and he's the one who's been the loudest, the most vocal and the most aggressive with this whole and just conditioning people
Starting point is 00:53:23 conditioning their base leftists or terrorists the Democratic Party is a terrorist organization Gavin Newsom talking about shit he was like this is I don't remember what he said it was like this is insurrection this is calls for violence just calling
Starting point is 00:53:39 calling Stephen Miller fascist and calling these guys want to be fascist he's like that's violence you're promoting violence by saying that That's a big part of their whole thing motivating this is the fact that when they act like fascists, people call them fascists. And that is promoting violence. You can't call us that because then people might act on those things and take out their anger toward us. And that's not good for us.
Starting point is 00:54:10 I mean, case in point, well, I shouldn't say case in point because it's still unsubstantiated. but there was this judge, Diane Schaefer Goodstein, Goodstein, and her husband, who was a former member of both houses of the state legislature in, where was it, Missouri? I thought this was North Carolina. North Carolina, that's right. Her house burned down. And there's no proof that it's arson yet, of course, but it's just really, really bad timing. It's obviously very strange, but I don't think as of this point in time, there is... yeah there's no evidence that it's arson but it was i mean it is bad vibes and bad timing because she was uh she'd gotten death threats from weeks after goodstein issued a ruling against the trump administration yeah obviously uh tensions are inflamed to say the
Starting point is 00:55:01 well well to switch gears just a little bit i guess um let me pull up that pull up that thing that's in bold there show, Jim Carson has been all over this. He's a very smart guy. He's a stock guy. And he put out a warning months ago that there was going to be some really increased, not only rhetoric, but policy cracking down on political dissent. And he's been proven right. And it's kind of terrifying. Yeah, he's been kind of a terrifying follow lately. Oh, yeah. And lately he's been kind of dropping breadcrumbs, so to speak, about what he thinks might be next. And he put up this infographic about the countries with the largest proven oil reserves. And they're the biggest one. You've got
Starting point is 00:55:54 Venezuela with 303 billion barrels in their reserves. And who is it that we've been blowing up extra judicially? What country outside of the waters? Yes, Emil. How dare you? Number one. Those were drug running Venezuelans. that is the Trump administration keeping us safe. It almost sounds like you don't adhere to traditional American values. Oh, no, I love traditional American values. I love them.
Starting point is 00:56:20 It's Venezuela. Yeah. Yeah. And apparently maybe that's what traditional American morals are. Bombing people extraditionally in the Caribbean. Maybe that's our morals. I would like to, I mean,
Starting point is 00:56:34 the America that these guys love so much would not be where it is without without everybody, you know? I mean, so much of the tax revenue and shit and the GDP comes from blue cities in blue states from a lot of companies that they purport to fucking hate
Starting point is 00:57:00 because they're woke and whatever. Well, even just going back to, you know, those AI-generated things you're talking about where people like to be like, you know, making America great again, goes back to the 50s, whatever. We used to be a great country. They always base it in woke,
Starting point is 00:57:20 and this was before trans and black people and gay people and all this stuff, but they never point to any of the actual economic factors of union density in this country, tax rates, corporate tax rates, you know, employment protections, it's always things that have been just absolutely gutted.
Starting point is 00:57:44 And not to mention that the country was still kind of coasting off of New Deal era policies that have been gutted since it's just, it's never that, it's always well, the woke, gay, we need to kill every teacher because they made my kid trans. I was surprised. I have a group of friends
Starting point is 00:58:07 that I'm still very close with that I grew up with. Most of them, if not all of them, left New Jersey just like I did. And I saw a guy, I follow him on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:58:21 He was probably a few grades older than me. And I honestly didn't know. I wasn't that close with him. I didn't know his political leanings or anything. But like on Instagram, I've been seeing him just like blast. Like, you know, just going very,
Starting point is 00:58:35 very left. And I was like, damn, okay. Interesting. And he posted something about central New Jersey where I grew up and someone they just elected. I don't keep up with Central Jersey politics, but I do know that it's a pretty conservative area. And I just texted back, like, or responded to it. Like, man, it's such a shame that where we grew up was such a conservative place. Like, I guess I didn't feel it that much growing up because I wasn't, you know, I was a kid, whatever. And he, He was like, you know, I used to be close with a lot of people who still live there, and I've basically cut everyone off.
Starting point is 00:59:12 He's like, you have no idea what it's like over there. Apparently, like, the high school that my high school was a part of, the district, they, there was an insurgency from moms for liberty, which is that, like, anti-gay, anti-trans, whatever. And I guess they took over the board and they just, instituting all these insane policies and he was like, I honestly
Starting point is 00:59:41 just cut ties with everyone. I was like God, what a weird it definitely was not like that when I was growing up. It was not like I mean, we we got in trouble. We had assemblies and stuff about like, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:55 you know, they made us, they wanted to stop using gay and all this stuff and it's just such a encouraging it. Hey, we just want to let you kids know. It's okay. Call each other gay.
Starting point is 01:00:08 And I think conservatism was always something I would probably be against, but it's just such a different thing. I even asked him, because he was older than me, I was like, was it always like that growing up? And he was like, no, I remember in 96, Clinton was going to be in the town over. I remember I remember Republican friends' families going to see Clinton speak and being like, he seems like a sensible guy.
Starting point is 01:00:32 I actually might, it's just such a different... Well, yeah, Trump changed everything. This whole thing has really... Trump was like at just the right place and time when the online world started to really spill out into the real world. In 2015, 2016, if you had used the word woke to an older, to a boomer voter,
Starting point is 01:00:53 they wouldn't know what it is. But now it's everywhere. Online and in real life are enmeshed. Facebook cooked the boomer's brains. everything could and Trump especially he was the big catalyst for it because he's the living embodiment you know the the pink sludge in Ghostbusters 2 underneath New York and it's it's just all of all of the bad vibes of the city is is um what manifest in this sludge Trump is that but for like boomer rage and and Jen and a little bit of Gen X and yeah I guess to a lesser
Starting point is 01:01:31 extent some frustrated millennials and stuff but he is the living embodiment of that and that's why they see him as their champion he's like i don't know yeah it's i mean yeah it's certainly not a um it's certainly not an administration with a ideology based on actually building a there's no project here there's no it's all about tearing things down and going back to yeah it's revenge and tearing everything down and I the friends that I have from like high school and from my hometown some of whom I still talk to some of whom I
Starting point is 01:02:08 just have lost contact with even in the first election they had such a lack of interest in being challenged it was just like I believe this and this and when I try to
Starting point is 01:02:27 like disprove or debate or whatever, it would just be like, I don't want to talk politics, which I get. But at the same time, there was no intellectual curiosity. There was no. And I knew I was like, oh, this guy or these people don't, it's not even that they're consuming Fox News or anything. It's just that they're not getting anything.
Starting point is 01:02:50 They just know Obama was bad and Democrats are bad and gay. and all the all the um emotionally stunted men in i'm thinking of this one guy in his family including him or just like i vote republican because i want lower taxes and i want to be able to keep my money and and it was always so funny to me because the hypocrisy with this guy was so glaring he's like you don't understand i see and i've mentioned this on the show before. I see, if you worked where I work, he works in a hospital. If you worked where I work, and Gray Sand, please don't clip this, because I don't want him to see it. He's probably would. He's like, if you worked where I worked in a hospital, you see people come in all the time who
Starting point is 01:03:41 were broke, but they have iPhones. And it's like, that's such a fucking fallacy of logic. You have no idea how they got the phone. Maybe they got it used, whatever. But either way, in the modern era everybody's got to have a fucking phone here number one number two he's like and these people are just leeches on the system they take advantage and they don't pay their fair share blah blah blah blah blah blah would he feel better if that guy came in and was broke and he was like good no iPhone let's treat this guy must be broke dude right and then the hypocrisy comes from his brother not like that oftentimes like he could have had that phone for such a long time it's not like you're born broke and die like yeah well you go broke and fuck sure
Starting point is 01:04:24 The main point that he was making was these people are leeches on the system. Meanwhile, his own brother was a wildland firefighter. And wildland firefighters are only contracted to work, you know, four months out of the year. And for years, this guy did the following. He would work as a wildland firefighter. And then for the remaining eight months out of the year, he would collect unemployment. And my buddy was like, isn't that fucking sick? He's just like taking advantage of the system.
Starting point is 01:04:57 And like, yeah, he's just chilling in his cabin up there just collecting unemployment. And then when he works again, he gets the paycheck from the. And then there was some loophole that he was exploiting where it was like he was working a job under the table, collecting the unemployment. And I just wanted to be like, man, you remember those guys, you were, those families, those poor families you were knocking for like taking advantage of the system? like what's going on there and he himself would i remember him telling me one time he got pulled over by the cops uh right after a shift he was speeding or something and he was pissed because the cop gave him a ticket because he tried to get out of it by being like oh i work over at blah blah blah hospital and uh yeah i help you guys out all the time whenever we get like d ui suspects and stuff
Starting point is 01:05:45 because he's first to like take the blood to make sure they get a conviction and he was sure that the cop would be like oh yeah you're you're one of us and it's just like dude you again just the kind of living embodiment of this like uh the cheating the system and and and cronyism for me but for everybody else you're a fucking you're a leech and you're you know you're surping the system and it's just and when you would try to engage with it or try to convince him otherwise there was no talking to him because he either just ah i don't want to get into that That's messy. I don't want to get into politics.
Starting point is 01:06:20 Or just like, just some stuff just, you could give him the most cogent, coherent, logically consistent argument for why he's wrong about something. And he'd be like, yeah, I don't know what to tell you, man. I just feel the way I feel. I just like the guy. I just like the guy. Which is like those fucking, I mean, they, we don't have to play. Well, let's play the clip of the soybean farmer because it is funny that his name is Scott Farmer.
Starting point is 01:06:44 I know. I don't know what to. Or whatever. Well, like we talked earlier. We went from 12 billion to zero, and then, you know, as a farmer, we'd get up one morning and you give Argentina, which is our second biggest competition in the world. They're the largest exporters of soybean meal in the world. So I get up one morning and I turn the news on. And you get $20 billion of taxpayer money to my competition.
Starting point is 01:07:08 And then the Chinese buy, I think the figure is 30 or 40 containers, ships, which is about 65,000 metric tons per ship, which is like... all right basically yeah but doesn't he say that doesn't she ask him if he would go to oh yeah keep playing it sorry by 12 or 14 billion dollars worth of soybeans from the argentinians after the tax holiday and here's the caveat to it they give two dollars and 30 cents over the november board while i'm getting 50 cents under the november board so that makes the argentinian soybeans about 12 dollars and 42 cents a bushel i think that's the real figure they gave so all my premium well oh
Starting point is 01:07:50 Scott I just lost you there at the end you said your premiums go they all went to Argentina maybe that's not the right one I thought there's no basically he got the all the soybean firmers got royally fucked China used to import
Starting point is 01:08:08 $12 billion a year from America and it dropped to zero this year because of Trump's bullshit and we just gave Argentina a bailout. Because they fucked their economy up so bad with their ridiculous libertarian Javier Malay.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Yeah. People on the right were like, we're back, baby. The world is going to see what libertarianism unleashed can do. And then they tank the economy. Yeah. And now we're giving them a $20 billion bailout. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:38 And then they're selling their soybeans to China instead. And the sad thing is that these people, no matter what happens, they would still, they're still so devastatingly effective at making farmers like that and like rural, god-fearing Americans so afraid of trans and woke, they really make it seem like they're going to come and like force convert your sons and shit. They're just so good at it that they would, they would just keep voting for Trump no matter what, every single time. It is very, I mean, it's very disheartening.
Starting point is 01:09:15 talking to that guy from my hometown was just really bummed me out. I mean, those are people, you know, it's a suburb in New Jersey. You know what I mean? It's like, these are people who, for the most part, the system is working for. Oh, yeah. And I can understand it when there's some, you know, there's economic hardship. There's feeling like you're being left behind. At least this guy's talking about wanting to shake up the system.
Starting point is 01:09:43 This is just bizarre to me. I mean, so I try to, I'll, like, mute anyone who I just, like, don't want to see their stuff. There's, but my friends who I do keep in touch with who are very normal and have left will sometimes, like, send me a thing. They sent me, this guy, he was in our grade, we knew him, and they sent me his Instagram post. And it's November, 2024. It's a picture of the Trump rally he was attending in somewhere in Pennsylvania, I think, and just like, long caption about what an honor it was to be at Trump's last rally before he becomes president again brought tears to my eyes like down like what the fuck yeah i mean there's
Starting point is 01:10:30 going to be entire areas of study dedicated to this after it's all over about what a what a stranglehold this guy has had both on his own party on the opposition on the country on the culture and on the world
Starting point is 01:10:50 he's truly the main character every day and yeah I mean I'm often just left speechless and um hopeless
Starting point is 01:11:05 and just like I don't even know there's what's going on? Truly what is going on? I mean, yeah. How are people
Starting point is 01:11:16 and people like Ted Cruz who are just revealed to obviously be completely lacking in any kind of principles and moral consistency and... Dude, literally go down the list.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Every single one of these guys in 2015 and 2016 was calling him a despot a JD Vance himself called him the next Hitler. Yeah. All of these people are the biggest cowards. Marco Rubio, all of them, just the biggest cowards, all down the line.
Starting point is 01:11:46 But they can see what's happening. I mean, that's the thing. We're not even a year into this to the second term. These things like we're talking about, NSPM 7, things are just getting started. I mean, it's the... Yeah. And like you said, they never have any plans for how to make things better. it's just
Starting point is 01:12:07 hey all these plans that you have for making things better that's never going to work that's fucking stupid that's going to cost too much money are you gay get out of here with that gay shit it's the you know they go for the easy thing of Christy Gnome tweets out like
Starting point is 01:12:25 F a FO 30 million illegals deported sounds like that'll do a number for the housing market now all of a sudden you're not competing with illegals and it's like just kill me just not even we didn't even get into
Starting point is 01:12:41 the Christianity you turned on your dog Christy Nome put it right here that's not even getting into the Christianity part about how these people claim to be such like God-fearing brethren-loving Christians and yet they are so
Starting point is 01:12:57 hateful and just intolerant toward virtually everybody yeah but they're going to do a they're going to cloak it in the fact that they're protecting their own yeah they're going to do um who is it the lake and riley act they're going to take any instance of um an immigrant having some kind of violent action towards someone and even better if it's a blonde white woman and they can go do you see what they want to do to you this is what they took from us what they want to do to the entire world the entire country all of our sweet beautiful white babies you're going to have to hand them over you're just going to have to do it
Starting point is 01:13:42 and Obama himself hi Doug if Obama gets his way he's going to hand over all the white babies to the immigrants remember that remember that clip of the of the people acting out the abortion in front of the White House during the Obama administration
Starting point is 01:13:59 oh man I got to find it real fast we'll end on that I hope I want to we should reelect Obama and he should just like day one, be like, we're collecting all the white babies, and I'm giving them to the immigrants. I'm sending them to Venezuela. Oh, here. I got it. Uh, go to YouTube
Starting point is 01:14:15 and search render unto Obama. I need your money to kill babies by abortion. You, taxpayer. Give me your money to pay a baby killing. No, I don't believe in abortion.
Starting point is 01:14:39 I don't care. Render to Caesar what to Caesar's. Give me money to kill babies. All right, all right. I'll pay you. Don't hit me anymore. Please, please, kill my baby. Kill my baby.
Starting point is 01:14:53 You kill that woman's baby. Who's the audio listener? yes yes you kill that woman's baby the woman who said kill my baby said need money for a boob job i want a boob job and i do remember this uh because this resurfaced recently the guy's wearing a mask but um that is now the uh i believe he works under robert kennedy now at the director of health and human services. Oh, that's good. No, I'm joking. Oh. But that's basically, these guys are,
Starting point is 01:15:41 the administration is full of these guys. Well, they let guys like this govern and now this is what. Well, and this is what politics and discourse used to be, which I'm totally okay with. You got four weirdos doing a weird kind of, uh, demonstration in front of the White House. Knock yourselves out. But now these people each have like a million followers in a fucking podcast and they're, they're, you know, You should write an op-ed in the New York Times that Randall Terry was practicing politics in exactly the right way. Is that who that is? Yeah, I just got to watch it one more time. I need your money to kill babies by abortion.
Starting point is 01:16:21 You, tax payer. Give me your money to pay for baby killing. No, I don't believe in abortion. I don't care. Render to Caesar, what to Caesar. Give me money to kill babies. All right. All right, I'll pay you.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Don't hit me anymore. Please, please, kill my baby. Kill my baby. You kill that woman's baby. Dude. Yes. It's honestly a perfect... I love the look at the camera.
Starting point is 01:17:05 It's so fucking good. Yes. This is... Oh my God. See, now, again, if it were 2025, she would have a podcast. They would both have a podcast, and they'd probably be influential within the fucking, what? I'd tune in. I want to know what these people have to say.
Starting point is 01:17:25 I mean... I need to kill my baby. I need a boob job. Just, and nobody cares. Nobody's, like, looking, paying them any attention. They're just fringe weirdos. And that's what this country used to be. Do we know who these people are?
Starting point is 01:17:38 I need to know what they're... They must be thrilled now. Yes. Yes. The doctor just... Randall Terry. 16 years ago. These guys have gotten exactly what they wanted.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Yeah. Yeah. Randall Terry. Was Stephen Steve Huffman. He was holding a protest sign with the same phrase. All right. Anyway, well, folks, that's it for this week. We'll see you next week.
Starting point is 01:18:09 And like we always say, render unto Obama. Render unto Obama. And we'll see you in the bonus. Ben and Emelshow.com. Doug's going to be there. Won't you? Won't you? Coming up on this week's episode of Ben and Amel Show.com.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Yeah, you had it at a hospital. It's got records and stuff. Then, yeah. But. But on the way to New York, the big city, Wait, what? You and your wife hucked a baby out the window. What is happening?
Starting point is 01:18:39 Who would find out? Nobody in the city knows that you had a baby. Whoever finds that baby? Yeah, but the baby's never found. A bear eats it. What is your hypothetical here? Yeah, but the records, who's checking up? It's not like they're going, huh?
Starting point is 01:18:57 Oh, I mean. The baby hasn't paid taxes. Not kissing each other. I'm like, do you guys, are you attracted to each other? Yeah, you got to see if you taste good. You got to smooch each other. Yeah, you got to smooch. Must smooch.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Smooch. Aren't you guys going crazy too? Doug still won't lick me. And she was like, no, I don't think so. He does another lap. I see him. I see the black shorts. I see the shirtless guy.
Starting point is 01:19:23 It was so clearly him. And like I just had a second of, if she says that that's not him, I think I'm going to have like a mental breakdown because it's just so obviously him. I got a good one for you. He doesn't even care.

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