The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 124: NBA Stars Arrested By FBI in Mafia Gambling Ring

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

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The FBI announced a major, major bust. A bunch of former and current NBA players and, of course, a head coach. I mean, we've talked about before. You can bet on what color dildo is going to get thrown onto the court. So, of course, you can bet on this player's only going to play the first half. This player's only going to score a certain amount of points. This player's going to get no rebounds, whatever. You guys are doing too much with these card games.

It's wild. NBA players have been basically acting as face cards where people want to go play in these private poker. games. It's not like you're getting to play with LeBron. No, you're playing with Damon Jones, Terry Rosier, and Chauncey Billups. And playing cards that had markers visible only to individuals wearing specially designed contact lenses or sunglasses. Psycho. Where are they getting this? Tech. Honestly, I didn't even know this. Holy God. How much are we going to take, boss? $50,000. $50. Boss, is it worth all the trouble? Why are you order?

The equipment alone cost us $50 million. It's almost like these guys are... We've got specialty contact lenses. Yeah, Jesus. I'm looking down to town with baby on me. Tell me what's going on. Tell me what's going on.

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But that was also a ref. Sure. This is crazy. You're talking about a head coach. Yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. Where's the body? Where's the body coach?

This is crazier. Yeah. I mean, this is so crazy and it speaks just to the absolute rot in our society right now. But that's the problem is that it's not going to matter. I hope you're wrong. Because everything is so rotten right now. I hope I'm wrong too. I mean, I did see Adam Silver is getting, they're making a request for him to come comment in Congress.

But we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves. So we should talk about what's actually going on. but uh well for now you could you guys can bet on uh every bit of the action of this podcast every 10 minutes you can place place a bet on our on our new gambling partner pod kings yeah if you go to ben an amel show dot com uh pod kings as integrated with uh with ben and amel show yeah and you can bet on all the action will ben say pee pee-poo stuff uh you know will amiel talk about bags we have all of that stuff you can do prop um and we're not even fix and stuff. They've screened us.

We are not allowed to battle them. It's blind. We don't know. There's a bookmaker in Las Vegas who handles all this. Ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Okay, so this has been, this is a huge shout out to FBI chief director, Cash Patel. Man, what a hero. I actually, I mean, it speaks to, it just, it does speak to how big of a deal this is that he came out as part of the announcement that he was like I want to be the head of the FBI completely goofed it

I mean was saying La Casa Nostra I believe he said Toronto Rangers instead of Raptors this guy's a freaking goof we saw you we saw you in your what was he wearing some kind of Premier League tie to some hearing

something like that I'm surprised the right didn't jump all over him for that like I thought this was an American We're an NFL tie. Oh yeah, and a lot of the right is very anti-Indian right now, like majorly. Is that true? Are you talking Native American? No, Indian like India.

What aren't they anti-use-days days? They are very, very upset. I mean, they're all over the... There's this thing on the right now where they just post... They post pictures of objectively attractive women, and they're like, oh, these pigs, I wouldn't fucking with my friends. friend's dick or something. It's like, what are you guys doing? Yeah. No, I mean, that probably dovetails nicely into the Gooner piece that we're going to talk about. But it is interesting how, because you know, you hear about how, you know roughly about how America was built on immigration,

but I'm currently watching this multi-part series from 2010 called America, The Story of Us. And it's chock full of, it's really great. And boy, it really, It really does cement the reality that we are a country of immigrants, not only just immigrants, but like the toughest, most ambitious, foolhardy dreamers kind of shit that we're like, I want to leave all the things that I know and people that I know in some cases and people that I love and go try my luck in this new country. And it's very inspirational. And meanwhile, these guys are shitting all over them. oftentimes they were forced to flee or leave oh yeah slaves well yeah and just

you know bad times lots of Italians coming here they ran out of potatoes lots of Italians coming here after Mussolini's rise you know it's not a but still there is a good healthy amount of the hey we got a new country come party with us

come party with us anyway that's what's etched on to the the statue of liberty yeah we got a new country come party with us And, you know, it was assembled thanks to, I forgot the guy's name. But, oh, oh, oh, Pulitzer, the guy who was responsible for, at the time the world's biggest newspaper, it was going to cost a fortune to assemble the Statue of Liberty. And he was like, I'm going to do it. And people mailed in money, like dimes and nickels and dollar bills and stuff through the mail.

To assemble the Statue of Liberty. And then they held the meeting. And they were like, what do you think if we change the, we have a new country come party with us thing? I feel like we could do better. Let's put a poem on there instead. And someone else was like, okay, our tired, our hunger. Yeah, yeah. Oh, great.

So we got a country full of tired people, Sleepyville. Anyway, you know who's not having a good time? You know who's not coming apart? Oh, wait, before we get off Cash Patel, though. Okay. This drives me crazy. This is a quote from him. This is an operation that showcases to you that under President Trump's administration,

there is no room for any type of criminal behavior, be it on the world's largest stage or in the back rooms of tiny parlors where card games are being played. Where do you get off, man? Hash Patel. Really, sir. Give me a break. Give me a break.

Give me the biggest break. Break us both a piece off of that Kit Kat bar, why don't you? With everything going on, just, okay, you got your little gambling thing. I saw just before I left the apartment. Trump on Truth Social, they're now doing betting. You can do betting on true socials. You can bet on everything now. Hey, everybody. Listen up.

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But so the FBI announced a major, major bust. They were busting all over the place. A bunch of former and current NBA players and, of course, a head coach, are all indicted, along with 30 co-defendants on this illegal gambling, not only on basketball games, but on rigged poker games. And let's play a little bit of this clip from the news conference. It's actually two separate cases. Yeah.

Forged for their alleged roles in both schemes. This alleged illegal gambling operation hustled unwitting victims out of tens of millions of dollars and created a financial pipeline for La Cosa Nostra

to help fund and facilitate their organized criminal activity. Victims were attracted to play alongside well-known professional athletes and coaches, like Chauncey Billups, only to be unknowingly deceived through rigged shuffling machines, fixing the odds in their favor, as alleged, and as you just heard, from the U.S. Attorney's Office. This alleged scheme wreaked havoc across the nation, exploiting the notoriety of some and the wallets of many to fund. the Italian crime families here in New York. Three of the named defendants. All right.

The Italians taking strays here. This is crazy. Come on. Those are just hardworking immigrants, as Ben was saying. Can you pull, I just sent in the two indictments. Can you pull them up for one second? I just want to show, show Ben, some of this, some of the people involved here. What they look like?

No. They've got some very good, they've got some very good nicknames here. We've got. Oh, yeah, zoom in just a wee bit. Eric Ernest, also known as Spook. I hope that's not a black guy. Well, they

definitely let you know when it's a black guy. Marvis Fairley. Vez, Vizino, Vizino Lox, Shane Hennon, Sugar, Damon Jones, D. Jones, not as De Niro, Laster, Nero, Peso and Peso.

Terry Roseer. I know there's going to be basketball fans who are going to kill us for not knowing all these people. Terry Rozier. Scary Terry and Chosier. And on the next one, you've got Spanish G, Lou App, Flapper, Poker, Flappy. Oh, geez, look at all these names. Matthew Dadino, also known as Maddie and the wrestler.

How are you not going to... They could do better than this. I would have called Matthew Dadio Dadino. That's just me. Thomas Galardo, Juice. But here's where you guys get, Tony Goodson. That's Black Tony. Oh, you mean Tony?

That's Black Tony. The Italians are going, what are we going to call this? guy. Well, he's black. His name's Tony Black. I love Osmond Hote. He's my favorite. He's my favorite. Albanian Bruce. I mean, these people are fully just uh, uh, action Bronson characters, big Bruce. Man, some of these guys don't have nicknames, which is making me sad. They must have felt so left out. I do think it's a lot of the Oh, you got another black guy. Robert Stroud, also known as Black Rob. Yeah. Sophia Y. Pookie. Known as Pookie. Yeah. Oh, that's cute. She might have been, she's, I mean, I bet she was cute.

A lot of fun guys in here. Wow, man. A lot of fun guys. I mean, when you really, Jesus Christ, so the, the poker or the crime families, excuse me, are the Bonano, Gambino, Luchese, and Genovese families. By the way, speaking of Bambino, Gambino, the guy who played the catcher in the sandlot lives in my neighborhood. I saw him walking his kid the other day. Biggest head I've ever seen on a human being. I was the kind of fat dude

who said come on I want to get home before lunch Yeah and he goes You're killing me small Yeah you bob for apples in the toilet And you like it But yeah So there are two cases here One has to do with

Which is very straightforward I mean makes a ton of sense With the proliferation of all these prop bets and everything You have players and coaches leaking information To betters often You know associates basically they get a injury report and then you can do all these small bets on things like

such and such player is not going to score above 10 points tonight. Why? Because his ankle's bothering. He's probably not going to play a lot tonight. That one makes so much sense and it's so easy. The other one with these, so that's one suit. The other one is this poker one, which is it's wild. NBA players have been basically acting at And there's so many puns here. Honey pots. They call them... Face cards.

Yeah. Face cards where people want to go play in these private poker games, these underground poker games, because NBA players will be there. Literally like pretty low, I would say low tier NBA players. It's not like you're getting to play with LeBron. No, you're playing with Damon Jones, Terry Rosier, and Chauncey Billups. Which, by the way, and we'll get to... why, but Chauncey Billups' career earnings spans over $100 million. Terry Rosier, $160 million.

And this poker one, they're not even netting that much money off these, and it's so involved. Okay, this is paragraph 37 of the charging document. At the rigged games, the members of the cheating teams, including the defendants and their co-conspirators, used card shuffling machines that were purportedly randomly shuffling the playing cards to ensure fairness. However, the rigged shuffling machines were secretly altered to use concealed technology to read the cards in the deck, predict which player at the table had the best poker hand, and relay that information via interstate wires to an off-site operator. The operator then communicated the information by cellular telephone to a member of the cheating

team seated at the rigged poker tables referred to as the quarterback or driver who used secret signaling to share information with the other members of the cheating teams playing in the rig games. The cheating teams used the information from the quarterback to defraud the victims who believe they were playing straight illegal poker games. At times, the defendants also utilized other cheating technologies such as electronic poker chip trays that could secretly read cards placed on the poker table, card analyzers that utilized technology loaded onto decoy cellular telephones that could surrepteciously

detect which cards were on the table and playing cards that had markers visible only to individuals wearing specially designed contact lenses or sunglasses. Psycho. Where are they getting this fucking tech? Honestly, I didn't even know this. Holy God. It's like a... It's James Bond type shit.

It reminds me of the Austin Powers games where like the... Oh, I remember. Number two is, you know, he's got his eye patch where he's looking on the... I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah, I need to see these... I need to see these cheating decks and poker chip trays and... And they've got signals where it's like, all right, just going to go and fucking... And off-site operators relaying messages?

Yeah. That's why this is so... just play regular poker enjoy yourself the prop bet thing makes all the sense in the world you have inside information

let's use these let's use these gambling things that have ridiculous menus of things you can gamble on I mean we've talked about before you can bet on what color dildo is going to get

thrown onto the court so of course you can bet on you know this player's going to go out this player's only going to play the first half this player's only going to score a certain amount of points this player's going to get no rebounds whatever

Makes so much sense. You guys are doing too much with these card games. Or just take a rake like any other underground game. Take a fucking, take 10% off the pot. Good God Almighty. It's not worth, how many guys do they have to pay out for this thing? And it was only, according to the thing, Chauncey Billups helped take, in 2019,

he helped take a whopping $50,000 in poker game winnings. The juice is not worth the squeeze here. No, man. What a tiny little freaking orange. whatever you're squeezing for that damn juice. Pathetic. But yeah, I mean, geez, who I really want to know who they're working with on these. The mafia's got some kind of whiz kid.

They've got some kind of tech. I will tell you what, between this episode and the previous episode about the Louvre heist, crime is back in a huge way. Crime is back. Like, we have literal old-timey James Bond villains doing. Oh, yeah. And their nicknames? We have nicknames.

We have criminals with nicknames again. Black Rob and Black Tony are out there. Albanian Bruce is coming to get you. Okay, Albanian Bruce, you're going to talk to Black Tony, all right? We're going to set it up so that he thinks he's got a boat, all right? But really, we're going to have quad aces there, so you're going to lure him in with an all in. And my signal's going to be, I'm just going to tap my nose, all right? I'm going to tap my nose.

Thumb to the forehead. That's how you know it should turn. you go all in and you suck it right out of him. How much are we going to take, boss? $50,000. It's $50,000. Boss, is it worth all the trouble? Why are you order?

The equipment alone cost us $50 million. It's almost like these guys are... We got specialty contact lenses. Yeah, Jesus. Yeah, how much is the fucking overhead on these things? Those contact lenses sound like they cost a fortune. Truly, go to Vegas with this shit. What are they thinking?

Well, it sounds, speaking of awesome powers, these guys sound like guys who were in prison for a long time. And when they got out, they had no concept of how inflation changed the value of things. They're doing the whole like one million dollars. And it's like, boss, 50 grand. And he's like, shut up. We're going to get 50 grand. Yeah, 50 grand. 50 large easy. And somehow they got NBA players to be like, sure. Yeah. I mean, some of these, looking through the things some of these winnings were like they're getting like five grand. To be fair.

It is exciting to hold $5,000 in cash in your hand. I do think a lot of the the NBA players and not just NBA players. It seems like sports and gambling has obviously been enmeshed since

time in memoriam. But players like to gamble. And so I'm sure it's not that crazy I'm sure a lot of these players would have just came to poker games and then they're like hey how about an appearance fee of 50 grand they're like sure what do I care I'll gamble with house money so I'm sure it's not that crazy for them to just be like

you want me to be the face card whatever I just want to I just want to I just want to place to gamble I mean there are tons of stories throughout history of one very famous one is Michael Jordan who was a legendary gambler oh yeah fixing them Jordan would you know do things like when they were playing away games, he would be placing bets on the plane and he'd be like, okay, let's bet

whose luggage comes out first on the conveyor belt. That's fucking, it's psychotic. But he was also paying off the baggage handler and being like, make sure this bag comes out first. Jesus.

It's not hard to imagine, you know, and he's not making big money here, right? Yeah. It's their little stupid... I wonder if he was betting on Space Jam, like in Space Jam. It's like, all right, he's betting against fucking Porky Pig. The Bond Stars. I go, yeah, Blah, Jim, Michael, I don't have, I don't have any money to bet.

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since 2019. This has been an ongoing investigation. I'm surprised Cash Mattel didn't get in there and bungle this whole thing. Oh, yeah. Wanting to get involved and like play. They've got, let's see, December 2020, the co-defendants used non-public information on player's

statuses that could affect games for flat rates or percentage of the win. So like Damon Jones texted that LeBron James wasn't going to be in a game, for example. Yeah, because these injury reports get released. Yeah, but they get them before.

Yeah, exactly. They're not public. And that affects the thing. I guess Terry Rozier in 2023 texted a guy that he was going to remove himself in the first quarter. And they spread it across their network. They placed $260,000 in bets for his under making to, he's going to score under the amount that they've got projected. And sure enough, he left. and they got the under.

Billups told the co-defendant guys, co-coordinate or co-defendants, excuse me, that the Blazers would tank because there were... They wanted to get a better draft pick, so they were going to throw the game anyway. And for fucking $5,000, that's it. I know. And they're talking, I mean,

if you want to know why, look back at like Michael Jordan. Some of these guys are just straight addicts. and also like I said it is thrilling even when you're worth a hundred million dollars having five grand in cash handed to you

it's nice it's got to feel so good man what's the most cash you've ever handled I've had a lot of cash I probably shouldn't talk about it because of tax reasons and stuff but how much cash now you gotta tell us

the IRS isn't listening I've had a lot of cash are we talking over 20 grand Yes, that's a yes. Why did you have that much cash, grandma? Jeez. I'll tell you all there. Were you buying a car?

No. Whoa. Whoa. I was buying a car. It was my truck. And I had $13,500. And I famously had it in the rental car at your show at Permanent Records. And I left it in the glove company.

I left it in the car. Yeah. because I couldn't I don't remember why but I was like I'll just leave it in the door probably safe there undraceable cash

oh man it's probably safe in Cyprus Park oh yeah so there were a bunch of others there were the main teams were the Blazers the magic the Raptors

and the Lakers and much of it involved injury reports like you said and them knowing beforehand hey this player's going to be out and apparently

So my favorite One of these guys got kicked out of the league Who was it? Terry Rozier himself was investigated by the NBA And they cleared him of wrongdoing For all the suspicious betting activity They were like what the fuck going with this

These people are obviously going to have a lot to answer for Here The I mean this is all The betting is at the core of this stuff Adam Silver himself, when he took over as NBA commissioner, he came in as a pro-gambling commissioner. Oh, yeah. It's everywhere now.

No, but this was his mission. He, over a decade ago, when he became commissioner, he put out a big op-ed in the New York Times. Let me see. Why gambling is good and players should participate by Adam Silver? It's just legalize and regulate sports betting. Jesus Christ. Opinion op-ed contributor Adam Silver with two little dice as the headline. And now look at where we are.

And it's just an entire article of him being like, we should be able to do it. I think we should do it. You've got MGM bet, ESPN bet. Well, that's the other thing. I mean, this shit is so fun. Like, it's not just the league. It's like even journalists. Journalists can't even be honest about what's going on.

on here because they're so in league with this. The entire thing has been bought out. ESPN used to be the leader in sports journalism. How can they even talk about this in any kind of honest way without talking about how they have their entire gambling wing ESPN bet? Everything, like when you watch sports, it's wall-to-wall coverage. When you watch ESPN, they have their sections on spreads and odds and all this bullshit. I fucking can't stand it, man.

It's now in baseball, too. I've been watching the World Series. Phenomenal World Series so far, by the way. They've got these fucking commercials where it's like, you can bet on every pitch. And it just feels like they're spitting in the face of God. Just like, yeah, fuck the Ten Commandments. Like, not that I'm religious at all, but it just feels so.

It's just wrong. I mean, just pathetic. The amount, Bill Simmons has been a big one. He's like the, well, I think he literally goes by the sports guy or whatever did for a long time. His fans are giving some pushback because he kind of covered the story and basically gave a, who cares? Basically gave a, you know, this is, sports gambling's been going on forever. And it has. Sports gambling has been going on forever.

But it's disingenuous to say that this is not different. as you say, like how prevalent it all, it is everywhere. And not to mention the fact that his company, The Ringer, is massively sponsored by Fandual. It's just like none of these people are going to be able to speak honestly about this. It reminds me of the scene in the big short where the guy is having dinner with Steve Carell and he's bragging about how they're just packaging crap and repackaging that crap and packaging the crap. So you've got levels of crap. It's the same kind of thing where it's like, you can bet on blah, blah, blah, and bet on this and even bet on your fantasy team. It's just the most sloppy, slop, bullshit, garbage, pathetic.

And it caters to people who are, I feel like it caters to a desperation out there. There's a lot of people who don't have a lot of money, and they're just like, fuck it, I'll gamble. Of course. And it's just betting on every pitch. I mean, it's no way to enjoy. It's just, it bastardizes the entire fucking thing. It's literally, I mean, from the crypto to even the stock market, the way everything has changed. I mean, it's the same thing with like, you know, we were kind of trying to get at it with Vlad when we had him on trillionaire mindset, this thing of like, you know, you've gamified a stock market thing.

And I think people have this thing of like, whatever, you could always bet on the stock market. And if you're not able to see that it is different now, then that. And I don't know what to tell you. This is a completely, you know what's funny. We're going to talk about the gooning piece in the bonus. It's very similar. It's a similar flavor. It feels so like, okay, so I was talking about the gooning thing with my friends.

We went to lunch before we went to go see Barry Lyndon at AFI Fest. And we were talking about the gooning piece. And we were all laughing because my friend at one point said, you know, pretty soon we'll all be gooners of a kind. And I think it's true. because, like, this gooning thing gets to the heart of, like, how pervasive this all is and just, like, how it's, like, this, uh, this almost, like, dedication to content and, and, like, giving into it all. And it obviously talks a lot about porn and how prevalent it is in our daily lives. And I'm like, wait, this is all of these things. This is just a small piece from the gooning thing. Um, it says, anyone paying attention to online porn's evolution over the preceding 20 years could send, in its brain-melting variety and abundance, the blueprint for a new kind of person,

a new relationship to human sexuality. In my own lifetime, I have seen incredible advances in the world of pornography. When I was a boy, there were still porn magazines. Fathers hit them on high shelves. You stood on stools and gawked at them in a state of mortal terror. But by the time I started college in the late aughts,

the foundations of our present porn environment were firmly established. Widespread broadband internet had enabled the rise of the so-called tube sites. platforms like Pornhub, which streamed untold numbers of clips free of charge, then came the smartphones transforming every toilet stall into a potential porn theater. The very air suddenly was misted with pornography. And that's very true of pornography. We'll talk about all that and bonus. But like that's true of all of these things now. Things that like I just, I've never had

any interest in sports betting, in gambling, in any of these, like in crypto. It's just become so easy to, like, that I've now come across these things and taken part in things. Things, and obviously it's a, like, a masterful play by these gambling companies, right? They've gotten

people like me who kind of like to test the very existence of this thing to play along. It's, it's, the, the, the air is not only missed it with pornography, it's misted with gambling. It's everywhere. there's nowhere you can't find these things yeah politics i mean you want to gamble on the outcomes

of who like literally on polymarket right now or calcium it will be like who is donald trump going to meet with next is it president g is it fucking whoever oh is jerome powell going to cough is jerome power going to say good afternoon is trump going to mention chuck schumer in his speech these are all real ones that i i recently came across but so it's just so this timing it like feels so relevant to this gooning thing where we're all just like swimming in muck and can't get away from these things. Well, back to the sports thing. There was, uh, John Tay Porter was a player for the Toronto Raptors who ended up getting

banned from the league. He got caught, uh, I think it was last year, 25 year old kid just career over because he couldn't, he couldn't keep his gamble dick in his pants. That's honestly what it is. He was a gooner. He was a gamble. Honestly, we're all becoming gambling. He was a gamboners of a sorts.

Yeah. My favorite, though, my favorite character in all of this, one of the intermediaries is a guy named Robert Stroud, who's 67, and get this. So this guy, Robert Stroud, killed a guy at a card game, I believe in Louisville, a house card game in the 90s, and somehow was out of prison. He got pulled over for expired tags in the early. early 2000s, and cops found in his car dice, cards, sports betting cards, and gambling records.

What a, what I just, uh, here's a little tip. That's an old school guy, man. If you just got out of jail and you're doing illegal stuff, keep those freaking tags updated. You know, get your, get your registration in order. Yeah, keep your, you would think, keep your fucking registration done. But, uh, yeah, he, he's, he's one of the guys that recruited the players. And I was reading about the history of the mob in sports. And it goes a lot deeper.

It's really concerning. Apparently they recruit a lot of these players when they're young. The mob in gambling is concerning. Yeah. They recruit a lot of these players when they're young, when they've got nothing. So they establish these relationships. And in many cases, it can be they're like in too deep. I don't know if Chauncey Billups is one of those.

another thing too when we were talking about the when we're talking about why are they doing these certain things when it's only you know 50k or 5k at some points that's another thing it's not like uh if you get in with the mob it's not like they're going remember you owe us that money and we just need that money and then you're done i mean they own you at that point and then it's uh well why don't you forget the money and why don't you do us a little favor yeah what do you say we wipe that away you do us a little favor chauncy oh dude what are these mob guy's doing. Didn't you guys go legit by now? Don't you all own laundromats and shit? Yeah, but they got bored. Remember when Chrissy tries to go to do an honest day's work? Who? Did you ever watch the Sopranos? No.

What? I know. I started watching it, but then my HBO account got all fucked up and it wouldn't work. It wouldn't work. And now it works, but now I'm like, I don't want to start over. It's a perfect TV show. He tries to go work a normal job? Well, no, no. He's like, I think he's

I haven't seen it a long time. I think they're facing pressure from the feds or whatever and they are trying to go legit. I think a bunch of them, you know how they have these no show jobs in the mob where, you know,

especially in waste disposal or whatever. I mean, waste disposal. So they'll be like, look, you got to actually make it look like you're going to those jobs and stuff like that. And there's a bunch of very funny scenes where they're just losing

their fucking minds at sitting at a desk like, what the fuck? Staring at clock. It sucks. It's really good. Yeah. Well, apparently, yeah, some of these guys just can't be, I mean, I wonder how deep this will go.

There's some people saying that there's a lot more that's going to come out, and I'm sure that there will be. I'm sure. When you've got already 30 co-defendants. And like we said, some of these guys, they're in too deep. They were brought in when they were young, or they're just addicted to the high. Because some of these players, man, when they go and visit, other cities, when they're on the road, they're fucking gambling.

I mean, when you're a young man and you've suddenly got a little bit of walking around money, why not throw down? Obviously, these are also extremely competitive people. Yes, there's that too. You don't get to this level without having that drive. And I'm sure it's a huge outlet for that kind of personality type. There was a huge... So back on Michael Jordan, there was a big...

conspiracy theory because he... About his dad. He was going to go six straight with the Bulls. He did three and then he went on hiatus. To go play fucking to try to go play baseball. Yeah, with the White Sox. And...

Just a fucking guy who's like 6, 8 trying to play baseball. Well, he was like, I remember believing him in him at the time when I was a little kid. I was like, well, he's the best of basketball. Why not be good at baseball? there's guys there's other athletes who've done that i forgot bow jackson there was a there was one

guy who's the one of the only guys to score a touchdown and hit a home run in the same day i can't remember who it is was it bo jackson can you google that home run and touchdown in the same day no i want to say it was but yes there is a conspiracy theory that i i don't know how much credence there is to it that michael so michael jordan's dad turned up dead um murdered and there was a conspiracy that it was payback for Michael Jordan's gambling debts

and in order to keep everything quiet rather than doing a suspension and cause a national scandal because back then it actually would have been a scandal the world would have stood still now things don't matter like that but they couldn't afford to do that

so the theory is that they were like why don't you announce you're going to go play baseball for a year Cool off in minor league baseball Go fucking embarrass yourself But again, I don't know People have talked about I forget where it was

Maybe it is North Carolina There's that stretch of Because it's weird He pulls over to take a nap Ends up murdered his dad But apparently Which is a common thing that can happen When you pull over to take a nap

Gotta be careful out there folks By the way it was Dion Sanders In the same week, not the same day Anyway what deon sanders scored a home run on september 5th 1989 for the yankees and then five days later he scored a touchdown for the falcons on punt return mooky bets is another one of these you're allowed to play in two different leagues

apparently man when you're dion sanders they'll let you do anything yes yeah that's insane so he took a nap and then his head just did that apparently people have talked about how like it's ridiculous to even entertain this conspiracy theory uh it is actually a very dangerous stretch and there's not a lot of hotels or motels or places to take a rest. Who knows? But yes, obviously this is not, the gambling part is not new to the sport. The way it's been supercharged and it's in the air and easier than ever is. I mean, these prop bets also, dude, the fact that at first you had to literally go to like

legit sports books in AC or Las Vegas. It's like porn. You had to go to the porn store. Yeah, you had to go... Or at least mail out for a fucking playboy or a penthouse to come. Or you had to find a illegal bookie. And there's only so many people who are going to want to do that sort of thing. And the frustrating thing is the people who act like this is nothing new, you know, and it's just another line of...

another in a long line of gambling scandals in sports. I mean, you see people calling for things like, oh, well, they're going to change the way they do injury reporting. Oh, okay, that'll fix it. Yeah, yeah. It's not, it's not this insane gambling. It's not like players are now going to, there's never been an instance of players throwing games or throwing plays

or rolling over to cover a spread or anything like that, which you would think as we've talked about it will and can happen a lot more how do you crack down on that as a league if these if these mafiosos and stuff are just

they're only getting more sophisticated but I fear that the genie cannot be put back in the bottles too much money has been poured into these oh these sports the leagues the media companies everyone would have to completely divorce themselves from these

gambling companies and it's never going away. It's never going to happen. It's never going to happen. Uh-uh. It's sad. It's very sad. Yeah. And this, I mean, yeah, it just has reverberating effects. Shohei Otani was another, I mean, there's conspiracy theories out there, but I think that they're just Dodger haters, which makes sense because Shohei Otani is the best player to ever do it. And they're saying that his translator from a couple years ago who got busted took the fall and that Shohei was the one doing all the betting. and that he's still betting? I don't believe it. I don't know. I look at Shohei and I see just a sweet, sweet, sweet baseball man. Sweet, sweet baseball man. Sweet, sweet baseball man.

He doesn't need it. He's got the new balance money. He's got... I mean, his salary alone was what? Beats by Dre? No. 760 or something like that. Let me finish.

200 plus 560 million. Oh. So I don't think that that's going on. know, people, there was an instance earlier this year in the Major League in Major League

Baseball where a guy intentionally, it looked so intentional. He threw a couple bunk pitches and right before those pitches were thrown some

questionable betting bets hit the line on him throwing a ball. And it was like, oh, he's throwing these intentionally so that his buddies

can get in on the action. Makes you wonder how many, I just, how the fuck did the FBI get so deep in all of this and they're just monitoring these guys because they've got text messages,

they've got phone calls, they've got all this shit, they're just sitting there going, oh man, we're going to get him so fucking hard for years. Yeah, some guy was probably working on it

in 2019 being pissed that he's like watching Cash Patel. I don't, I'm trying not to say, podcasting. Cash in. Oh, yeah. On his hard-earned work.

Ooh, yeah, yeah. Oh, just to watch fucking Cash Patel. some Indian guy what did he say the rest now brother we've got the watch we've got the watch yeah

that's what he said that's what he said to the guy who initiated this whole investigation rest now brother we've got the watch we'll see you in Valhalla

oh yeah oh my god everything is cringe everything is betting the whole everything is they'll probably at some point

it wouldn't surprise me If you could, hey, stuck in traffic, you can bet on the over-under of you making the next light, you know, that kind of shit. Do it. They've already in my fucking car. I want to be able to hit the button. Yeah. You purposely just put up through. That's my last $500.

I got to go! Why not? Fuck it. Why not? I want to be able to just hit buttons. I want to be walking around. Betting, gooning, jerking off. Am I going to turn left or right at the line?

Yeah. Fucking, let me just bet on everything. I saw a landing page for a startup that touts the ability to bet on your own credit card debt. What are you talking about? How? I don't know. I tried understanding it, but it was like, we're going to gamify you paying your bills to make it fun. And it's like, I don't need it to be fun.

I don't need to turn it into a fucking slop machine okay I don't need another one of those I've already got six in my room am I gonna wake up today if I can't take a shower they gotta cut the cords

this is bad like they gotta kill these people we need to round them up we are all good like we are all already gooning it's just I don't know what you're we don't know what your particular advice is

but I know you're gooning in some way maybe it's just Instagram reels but you know you might be going home and just you might be just doing like two hours before to before bed of just real real real story time real oh you know the worst part about reels is when a guy that you haven't talked to in a couple years just sends them to you constantly and you just don't have the time to watch them and you just have to write well ha ha ha ha well well can't believe it but it's like stop just i love you buddy but stop sending me real genuinely don't like, if I don't have to, I don't like engaging with bullshit short form

content. I've told some people like... Some of them are so good, though, some reels. It depends. That's the thing, though. If it's your friend sending you one, you're like, I'm going to like this. But you do have those friends where you're like, I don't think you get what I'm going to like. And I've been like, hey, man, I'm not like a big reels guy. So maybe it just like cut back on it. Some of it that I get sent is just like so obviously skits where they're in Target and it's like you know some guy going up to a woman and being like

hell, cut your boobs or shit like that and they're like what? It's just slap that was a really bad example yeah no it was not great but these the betting stuff man I don't know I don't know where it ends

I really don't you know where it might end actually I'm going to make a bleak prediction here there's going to be probably within the next year some kind of hostage its situation. And we can bet on when they'll be released. On when they'll be released and how the one holding people captive... How many will die?

Will be taken out? Like, oh, is it going to get shot in the head? Is he going to get arrested? Is he going to make a run for it? It's going to be like a dog day afternoon situation, but we're all captivated by the polymarket odds. Yeah. Polymarket odds got them at 3%.

I've got the, you know, fucking God, dude. I just hate gambling parlance, too. the over, the under and Harley and I'm sick of hearing the word pick six. Every fucking time I turn on the radio oh, they got to pick six with the, what the fuck does it mean?

I'm not going to Google it. Don't Google it. I don't want to know. Pick six. I don't know. And then Buffalo Wild Wings has a goddamn commercial where it's like, oh, we got to pick six of the, it's a food version though. Suck my dick. Enough. I'm surprised there hasn't been

more of a backlash. Like that that professional sports have not taken more of a hit from fans, just consider, I mean, this obviously just completely undermines the integrity. Yeah, integrity of the sport. And not to be like an integrity of the sport guy, but doesn't that make it less fun knowing things are being thrown or they're like, they're being influenced by... Let's just give them all their own league. Let's have a separate league for steroids and gambling.

Yeah. You got the NBA and then you've got the fucking E.NBA, the enhanced NBA, where you can bet on how many, they'll have new technology and you can bet on how many rotations the ball has as it goes into the thing. We can put our best minds to work. Fuck curing cancer. Fuck nuclear power. Fuck solving all that stuff. I want the smartest Chinese guys in a room figuring out new ways. Fuck working on Wall Street. Figure us out some new ways for new things. that we can gamble on. There's no, Chinese guys are, uh, they have the utmost integrity in their sports, I bet.

What sports do the Chinese have? All the same sports. Oh, well, I mean, they've got, but they've got other ones. Sure,

but I think that they, ping pong is one. You know, they play soccer. There's Chinese tennis players. Yeah, yeah. They've,

they've basketball. I meant like special, like there's this one game that I've been seeing. You want to hear about special Chinese sports. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I do see those kids at the school. do the like all dribbling and then switching over you know what the most impressive sport i've

ever seen is those kids in the school no it's like southeast asia these guys are playing it's like a combination of badminton in in terms of the like the smallness of the court it's volleyball but with feet oh yeah like jumping up inverting themselves and kicking the ball oh my good god man and it's like why is this not the biggest thing this is so impressive Sometimes it ain't that impressive to us Americans. We're like, I don't think we can fathom why it's so impressive. Well, impressive doesn't mean necessarily the best sport to watch. Yeah.

Have you been seeing? I'm sure you haven't. But in the NFL, there's been, I forgot what team it was. They were doing a technique called the tush push. I've done that before. I'm sure you have. Oh, it's kick volleyball. That's what it's called.

Thank you. Very impressive stuff. but um the tush push where they're they basically they do like a rugby thing where they give the run of the ball and they all just kind of collectively push oh that's not okay i thought of something different yeah something you're holding in a crap no that's mine that's what a tush push is for me i'm just holding it in god help me but um and i think it's really and people are complaining they're like this isn't football it's like yes it is if you're if you are exploiting if you want to call it a loophole in the rules, it makes

the game more interesting. You're incorporating elements of other sports, and it's very smart. I like that. I think that that's, I tip my hat to that. He tipped his hat to the tush push. I like the tush push. Anyway. So, what's the over-under on us? People are... Did you guys win any

money on us talking about that? Yeah, we should have a fucking Chiron at the bottom. Someone's putting down a big parlay that, you know, I'll burp. I'll take a Ben burp A meal talking about a bag

A meal taking a sip of A meal taking a sip of water Under six times Will Ben finish his coffee before the end of the episode? Will Ben finish his coffee before the end of the episode And Ben says Say hi to the bugs for me

And it's Adam Sandler placing a vet He's going let's vet on this shit Let's vet on this shit I'm going to place it A party Okay, what else do we have? Hey, I thought that this would be fun to show you guys. There was, you remember the Amazon Web Services outage last week?

Yeah. There's a man on a yacht who's the top dog in Amazon Web Services. And he just lives on a yacht. He's got an incredible vibe. When shit goes wrong, this is their, this is Amazon's official status update from October 20th. And the highlight down there at the bottom, at 2.57 p.m., James Hamilton's yacht made landfall. Four minutes later, by 3.01 p.m., all AWS services returned to normal operations. This motherfucker, they can't.

I want to know what he did. There's a reason he lives on a yacht. And it's because he is so good and so powerful, no one can do what he does. He came in and just went, beep, boop, beep, fixed it. Beep, boop, beep. incredible absolutely incredible it was down for hours and this motherfucker James Hamilton

came and fixed it all so I just thought that that was fun for you guys thought that that was fun wait we gotta show the picture of this guy oh yeah let's look up the picture of this guy yeah right there

there he is he looks like he'd be a member of queen he does I see a little problem with a WS on my yacht on my yacht I'm coming to fix it coming very quickly

I am very sickly me it'll take four minutes four minutes it'll take four minutes to fix it the internet is back up look at that look at his LinkedIn picture what an absolute legend

he does seem like a very fun he seems like one of your friend's dad who you enjoy when he comes around yeah I like any dad when they come around because I don't have one and I want to flam onto him

yeah but you know how some friends dads are you're like all right yeah they're a little too weird with they're like make too many sexual anyway and it's like okay enough dude we get it you want to fuck a butt weird yeah stop wanting to fuck a butt

cool out but he doesn't seem like he'd be doing that no no he's not a butt fucker there you go how's life on the yard james oh it's great you know that's great fixed a w s uh yeah Travis kelsey I mean I can already see I can already see I can already see the commercials. He's doing his Shack run. He's, he's, um, entering his Shack era. I think that

Travis Kelsey has seen the success that Shaquille O'Neal has had, where he's just shamelessly, and I, I, I, a huge shout-out to Shack. I love what he does. I love every commercial that he's in. I love what, I'm loving what Shack's doing. Yeah. The general, the car insurance, papillon, I just like to imagine that he's doing this with all Taylor Swift's money and he squanders her vast fortune on things like, babe, roller coasters, okay? What do you guys say anymore? Babe, roller coasters are epic, don't you think? Epic bacon?

What do you think? How epic roller coasters are? Yeah. What if I invested in it? New York-based hedge fund, Jana Partners, the National Football League Star and other investors have a combined stake of about 9% of the theme park operator shares or $200 million. You know what's great about six flags? They're publicly traded.

And you know what their ticker symbol is? we close take one more guess uh ah no a little further away no it's fun fuck fun six flags ticker symbol fun did you know uh i was a i was a season pass holder for six flags for many years wow um we had one in new jersey uh huh it rocked yeah it was the most fun thing my family was a were season pass holders for Universal Studios Not as fun, not nearly as fun.

No, Universal's cool. Hey, gang, remember that movie that came out 10 years ago? We find they got a mediocre ride for it. Universal Hollywood is, it makes sense because it's all IP from that. Six Flags was like weirdly connected to Warner Brothers. Oh, yeah. Like,

looney-tuned shit everywhere and, you know, the Batman ride. Batman. It's very strange, the Superman ride. Superman. But they weren't very good at, they weren't very good at integrating it in the same way as like, like Jurassic Park, the ride?

Incredible. Oh, yeah. Straightforward. T-Rex. Yeah, just feels very faithful to the movie. Batman, the ride. Basically has nothing to do with Batman. It's just a roller.

coaster. Yeah. I remember knowing I had a problem. I think I was a freshman in college or a sophomore somewhere around that. And my friend, I believe it was my friend Paul, wanted to have his birthday at Six Flags out here in Santa Clarita. And I went very reluctantly because I had never been on a roller coaster that did loops. And it was summer and very, very hot. And I went out and I went on the rides. I went on just about every ride that they went on. Hey, I'm proud of you. But every photo when they were taken, I just thought, okay, I'm just going to put my head down and just keep my eyes close.

So every photo, everybody's like that in my head and beyond. You look like you passed out. But I remember being so sincerely upset and grossed out when I would see people get off of the ride and they're sweaty and the seats right there. and I'm like, I can see the sweat from the previous person. I'm like, oh, they don't wipe these down between rides. I've got to go sit in that. And it really, really upset me, man.

Like, really, it was so... That tracks with who you are as a person. It was a formative time where I just was obsessed with that at every ride. Anyway, let's see. Should we wrap it up with the Trump GameStop thing? Because that's kind of... I don't say it fun. It's very fun

It's very fun You like this So GameStop put out A thing you guys They said that they You remember the console wars PlayStation and Xbox Yeah were you a PlayStation guy

Or an Xbox guy I was a PlayStation kid Up until Halo came out And one of my friends was like You gotta play Halo So I said all right I saved up my money And I bought an Xbox 360

And then I was an Xbox 360 guy I think I was similar Yeah I was PlayStation and then yeah Xbox Xbox was big Xbox was big when Halo came out Some of the funnest times I've ever had playing Xbox Live Halo 3

Very fun Oh my God I don't know why I don't get back into gaming and playing online with friends I know why I don't I find the idea because you're an adult I was going to put it more I was going to put it nicely I think

gaming is definitely like an art and I think people are making very cool things and I get jealous sometimes when I see some of them I'm just like I'm just actively trying to pull myself away from screens anyway I'm like I don't want another thing pulling me and I hate my cell phone

I hate the computer I don't want to watch bullshit TV yeah I hear you well GameStop because apparently one of the new Halo games is going to be released on PlayStation in 2026 They put out a cheeky press release saying GameStop declares the console wars over because I guess this was the one game that really had people divided.

And then if you scroll up just a wee bet to see the Rapid Response 47 official White House account tweeted, President Trump presides over the end of the 20-year console wars. Give them the Nobel Peace Prize. Yeah. Oops. Priests. Oops. Whoops.

Do you see what happened? I did peace and prize at the same time. I hope somebody made a bet that one of us would flub a word. And then I hope someone made a bet that the other one would call it out. Yeah. Oh, my God. Call that a better than Neil Parlay. Woo.

All right. So then GameStop followed that tweet up with this AI photo of President Trump shaking hands with Master Chief, who's the main character from the Halo series. And then GameStop responded because, well, then, oh, sorry, then the White House responded. with this bullshit piss filter AI of Donald Trump dressed as Master Chief

saluting in front of the White House with the I forgot what that's called the sword the energy sword thank you and then

sorry and then GameStop responded they did a pretty good job they've got Donald Trump in the foreground as Master Chief again and then they've got JD Vance as

what's that what's that entity called Osana Who? Cortana, Cortana, Cortana, Cortana, Cortana. And then to top it all off, the Department of Homeland Security had to inject their stupidity into it

with more of their weird accelerationists, white national propaganda. Destroy the flood. Obviously talking about... Mexicans. Immigrants. and Indians, I guess.

This is just not good. And maybe even Democrats at that point that guy's going that guy did red, red versus blue we call it

Oh, and he's teabagging a blue plasma posting. Do you see that? The red player's teabagging the, yeah. So,

for the uninitiated my mom, the flood is the aliens that are They're like this fungus. Yeah. And they're taking over. well

so have fun have fun everybody place your bets place your bets we hope everyone's having fun yeah yeah or at least

making money off of it all do we want to tell people that we've turned down not that we're heroes or anything but um I mean we've gotten offers to do

ads for me I would say this we've turned down very few because the things that come across our desk are like I mean you see

the things we advertise it's like clothes and like manscaped and oh I miss manscape too those things do rock

they will shave your balls they're great and not nick them what else do we Shopify which we use yeah it's all just like very you know

the sunglasses gooder and stuff like that And, yeah, Ridgewallet. But, like, yeah, so we've said yes to basically everything except we've gotten so many. And it seems like there is a new company popping up every week. We get so many requests for Fandul, Draft Kings, Kalshi. Calci and Polly Market came in on the same day. We said, no.

But it just doesn't feel. I mean. It just doesn't feel good. I mean, to propagate this... I want people staying off those things. I think these things are demonic. It is bad vibes. And then you've got in the fucking stock market,

they've now got these... Picture this, gang. You have regular stocks. You've got Amazon, Google, Tesla, you name it. They now have stocks that trade based on those stocks. They're ETFs. And they're anywhere from like two times leverage

to five times leverage individual ETFs on individual names. Invidia alone has like six of them. It's just crap, wrapped in poop, dipped in diarrhea, deep fried in piss, put in the oven, basted with a little more piss,

and then topped off with a little more melted poop. But there's no sprinkled flakes of shit? They're sprinkled with... How fresh are your flakes of shit? They're very fresh, sir. Okay, then yes, please. Grides him. And it's like that where it's not only can you buy NVIDIA,

but you can buy NVDL and NVDU and NVX and all these fucking derivatives on derivatives. And it's just... It's just gambling all the way now. we've turned the whole thing into a casino and I think pretty soon it's going to be I mean I don't even want to get into the bleak the bleak that I it's to keep us distracted but I'm just like I genuinely don't know what's coming when we already don't have good jobs for people and we're automating away the bad jobs where people were already had to work like

three of them just to get by yeah and I'm like what when you what's the plan when you take that away. Everyone can just gamble. You know, it was funny and annoying when Biden was president. All these fucking Republicans, they love to go, they love to quote that, give them circus and bread. Yeah, it's the

Roman thing. Yeah, the Roman thing, which is basically, yeah, bread and circus. Give them just enough food and entertainment to keep them distracted. And they'd be like, man, they're fucking doing the bread and circus thing. But now that they're in power and that shit has all been supercharged.

He's doing a fucking UFC fight on the White House. Just give me a fucking break. That's the bread and circus to a tea. Yeah, I mean. But they're like, hell yeah, America's back. Oh, geez. And yeah, Amazon's laying off at least 4. I saw the number that was twice that.

What? Yeah, I saw 30 corporate people, which is not something that you would expect to happen going into a busy holiday season. But again, those are corporate. jobs and not necessarily boots on the ground kind of thing. Apple bottom jeans boots on the ground. Any whomst.

Nods to AI-driven changes. Good. Good. Make it all AI. Let us do all. There should be only one job. Or no, maybe two jobs. Ice and gambling.

Those are the only two jobs now. Yeah. I want there to be two jobs. Place your bets on how many immigrants will be rounded up. Jesus Christ. It wouldn't surprise me if the HHS. Those are the two jobs. You're either.

rounding up the immigrants or you're betting on how many immigrants will be rounded up. Homeland Security. And if you go bust, you have to join ice. Sorry. Or get rounded up. It's up to you. That's why I can't, I mean, I also can't wait for this Running Man movie to come out because it's, it's kind of... Because you just like bad

movies. That's not going to be bad. It's Edgar Wright. It's Edgar Wright and Glenpoe, and I love both of those guys. Dude, Glenn Powell. I like Edgar Wright. He's made some absolute dog shit. Sure. Lots of people have made dog I know, but to be like, if you said that about, there are directors you could say that about, but Edgar Wright is a very funny one.

I bet that it'll get more than a 75 on Rotten Sumptoes. Maybe, but, um, baby driver. I loved Baby Driver. You're not beating. It's fun. It's fun. It sucks. It's fun, man.

You got to watch it again. Baby, baby driver. I honestly saw it, I saw it probably in, I rewatched it in like 20, 22. So it's not been like, it's not like I saw it. Lily, what's her name is so gorgeous in it? Oh my God. Last night in Soho. It sucked.

Yeah, it sucked. I didn't like that one. Lily James. Lily James. I will. I do. Obviously, huge shouts to Edgar Wright. I still think he's great.

I just, he's, he's, uh, we'll see. Maybe running man will be good. Maybe it'll be good. And you're right. Uh, all right, folks. We'll see you in the bonus. Ben and Emile Show.com. We're talking all about.

Gooning. Going to talk about gooning. I'm going to show you some pictures of our goon cave. We should turn this into a goon cave. Can you imagine just tidies up there? Buts. Penises. Bitties.

Bats. Penises. All right, folks, we'll see you there. Coming up on this week's episode of Ben and Emile show.com. And that's what I love about baseball. It's just, it's, you never know. I like that there's a guy on the Yankees called Schittler. Schneider. Schittler.

His last name's Schittler. I don't know who you're talking about. And he's also throwing fucking heat. He's throwing 99mm hours. He's a massive pitcher named Cam Schlittler. Back then, you would only see a king would only see maybe one beautiful woman in his entire life. I don't know if that's true. It is true.

A king? Where's a king going? You're relegated to the people in your fucking village. It would go all kinds of places. No, no, no. Not one his entire life. Maybe like 20. his whole life.

20 beautiful women? Yes. Yeah, man. They couldn't travel. Where are they going? Where's the king going? They literally traveled all the time. Not, no.

Not far. It took ages just to go fucking anywhere. They would go to like, the king of England would go to France and Prussia. Watch the naked ladies dance? And, uh, Switzerland. Yeah, but barely.

And you, even then you're encountering those along the route. It's not like, show me all the beautiful things. They would maybe see, French court moving Oh yeah Well anyway

I don't know 60 to 80 times per year That's how often they would travel But you guys are just building goon caves You don't even You don't know what struggle is You have no respect for jacking off This I'd like to apologize to everybody

For this episode It's really upsetting I want people to know that It takes a lot for me to feel embarrassed I was a real jacker I was a real You're saying it with your posture Like true unk

I was a real jacker. I was a real jacker. Yeah. I did it. So I made sure I wasn't a freak in society.