The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 125: The Hidden Dangers of the $20,000 Robot Slave

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:38 They are mostly remote operated. The robot can barely do any of these things. It's not like they have people standing by like, oh, there's something the robot can't do. You have to schedule it. Yeah, I can't go get you that glass of water or whatever. Can I schedule something to have the robot get that glass of water? I'll wait. They really gloss.
Starting point is 00:01:00 over the fact that it can do these things that you don't, you very much do not want it to do. Hey, could it shoot a gun at me? Yeah, it can. Yeah, it can, but lots of things in your house can shoot a gun at you. No, burnt. Listen, my Rumba could shoot the gun if you wanted to do.
Starting point is 00:01:16 I'm gonna, I can't wait to get one, leave guns just all across the studio. Yeah. Neo, clean up while we're gone. Clean up the guns. And remember, get rid of that paper. It better be gone or it's your ass. Or we're going to watch the Indian-Pakistan match again. We're going to watch the 1978 cricket finals again.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Yeah. We're Pakistan won. Something to think about. I'm looking at town with Benin'i on. Tell me what's going on. Tell me what's going on. So listen to a lot to Benin me. Tell me what's going on.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Tell me what's going on. Tell me what's going on. Well, let's... Doug doesn't like you flapping. Oh, but he likes you smack him in the chin over. I don't just go like that and he goes, hop, ha, ha, ha, ha. We're going to, I'm going to call DPS, Dark Protective Services. I know he likes it because then when I stop, he goes,
Starting point is 00:02:25 he tries to get up on me. Hey, everybody, welcome back to another episode. this week we're talking about robot we're talking robot robot robot is here everyone's getting a robot no not not uh not kiona reeves i actually rewatched the matrix it's so good the first one yeah the other two suck the other three whatever three yeah oh brother i know the other yeah the other two suck my iced coffee is a disappointment that i have this morning. It just tastes it doesn't taste like it. It just
Starting point is 00:03:01 tastes watered down. You've got a little iced coffee collection over there now. Yeah, I have two. I have two right here. So we're talking about Neo. We're talking about, because there's a lot of interesting stuff about it. Are we bullish? We're going to find out. Find out. We're going to talk about the things that it does, the things that it can't
Starting point is 00:03:19 do. Our take on it. Whether we hate it or like it, what things we would do with the robot. If that weird Scandinavian man's to let that thing do it and also uh what race we would choose because they give you you get to choose a race i'm going gray it's like with the emojis you know you're going black you stay yellow going black you know why stains won't show up as much because i'm going to be spilling sauce that's what you tell people when they come over it's the stains
Starting point is 00:03:51 stain what uh let's see what else do we have on the docket we're going to If we've got time, I think we will. We're going to talk about the stupid bullshit that Elon Musk said on Joe Rogan. And it's really nice because nobody gives a flying fuck. I think people are over it. We'll see. And that, actually, that is a little bit of foreshadowing what I just did there. Flying fuck.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I didn't even realize it. And just some general AI updates. But before we get started, check out Emile's new show. The link is in the description. You're going to want to check that up. Last chance to see. Also, the credit card list.com, our credit card site is updated. They no longer have the built card on there.
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Starting point is 00:05:02 Dick Cheney's died. Oh, we almost forgot. Rest in Piss, Dick Cheney. Yeah. Feels so bad for his wife, pussy Cheney. It's like some kind of prophecy has been fulfilled. If Zoran Mandani wins the election today on the day that Dick Cheney beefs it. I didn't say how he died?
Starting point is 00:05:20 I think just... N pneumonia? It's just like old guy, you know. I wanted a bowling ball. a fall on his head. That would have been cool. Oh, no, bowling ball, my only weakness. Dick, if you can hear this, send us a message,
Starting point is 00:05:35 tell us what hell's like. We'd love to know. Let's see, death. You absolute freak. I will say the nice thing is I have not seen, I'm sure it's out there, but I have not seen a ton of like the, what a great man this was. Well, yeah, because all the new,
Starting point is 00:05:53 all the Trump conservatives hate him because they call him a neocon. I do think he endorsed con. And then if lefties make fun of him, it's like that meme with the superhero sweating and doesn't know which button to press. It's like Trump hates Dick Cheney but also Libs making fun of a dead Republican. Wait, what? Like Trump supporting conservatives hate Dick Cheney.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Okay. Because they think of him as like a neocon and like part of the deep state, right? Okay. So one of the buttons is like fuck. Dick Cheney, but also the other button is, um... Wait, but who's the guy pressing the button? Just conservatives. Modern day conservatives.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Oh, oh, sure, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's like, oh, shit, do we, are we going to mourn him or are we pissed that... Got it. No, I understand the meme. I just was quite a little bit confused on you, but I'm glad we got there. I wonder where that's from. I wonder where that comes from.
Starting point is 00:06:52 It is a great... Man, I'd be nervous about what button to press fire that guy. Look, both of them were blank in that one. which button does what God's sake Did you vote for Prop 50? Yeah, mailed my shit in
Starting point is 00:07:05 Yeah Who knows if it got there He died They email you and tell you Oh Oh okay He had been experiencing Complications
Starting point is 00:07:12 Related to Pneum Pneum He's trying to say pneumonia Oh that's Oh got it got it Nomania and vascular disease Vascular disease
Starting point is 00:07:25 Gross The English language When you see something new? Yeah, you start when you're young and you start finding out that letters do
Starting point is 00:07:34 all kinds of fucked up things. Yeah, all 26 of them sometimes it feels like they're ganging up on me. P.N. just makes eh, okay, if you say so. P.S. just makes, uh. Sure.
Starting point is 00:07:46 All right, let's let's get a, let's kick off this stupid robot. That's probably more of a holdover from the Greek language, honestly. So, here we go. Here's the ad from Burt Bornich. This guy's name, this motherfucker's name is Burt.
Starting point is 00:08:03 We love Berench. Hi, my name is Berench. My name is Berench. And today, we're launching Neal. Wait, we're going to get destroyed on this. Oh, yeah. We can't. We definitely can't play that audio.
Starting point is 00:08:27 why is he playing why are he playing this song? How did he get the rights to this? But also just how does this have to do with the fucking... Maybe he did this so people could not make fun of him on YouTube. Maybe. All right, let's cut out of it. It looks like so for the audio listener...
Starting point is 00:08:49 I was kidding me. For the audio listener, this company is actually releasing... It looks like a... say because they're saying you could buy these for either $20,000 or $500 per month. No, no, it is $20,000 and... Are you sure? I believe so, because I watched the long form interview with him. So did I.
Starting point is 00:09:10 The Wall Street Journal one? Yeah. We can go to the website, but they're, they're, uh, but these are all pre-orders. They're saying coming in 2026, uh, so I mean, a lot of people are talking about it as if it's, these are here, you know, you can get a, um, um, Neo-Robot in your house But yeah, I guess they're trying to be first to market On these humanoid robots
Starting point is 00:09:31 And probably much to the chagrin of Elon Musk and his Yeah, I hadn't even heard of 1X But they've already got them... Let's cook that first one. They're obviously doing stylized cuts. You know that that chocolate motherfucker Who makes all sorts of crazy chocolate stuff?
Starting point is 00:09:50 So look, it says If you want to buy it, you pick one. Either $499 per month subscription or you click the early access $20,000 ownership. So I wonder if you... And you just have to put down a $200 fully refundable deposit. Oh, wow. That's not bad. It looks like a Google Home speaker.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Yes. Turned into a giant robot. That's exactly what it looks. It looks so non-sexual. There's nothing sexual about it. Oh, what are those? You see those fucking shoes? Truly, what are those ass shoes?
Starting point is 00:10:29 I mean, this guy burnt really, what is that? The place where it plugs in? What is this? Cork? Yeah, well, I do believe the thing's going to have to be constantly charging itself. Yeah, when I'm done with it, it's definitely going to have to restart. I'd be slapping that thing around. Actually, I couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I can't, I remember being mean to smarter child, the chat bot on A.O. I am. And I would feel so bad. I just start apologizing and big. I'm so sorry. Wow, I haven't thought about Smarter Child in so long. And that was pretty... Maybe the first generative AI...
Starting point is 00:11:03 Oh, yeah, and it was so smart. It was very good. Wow. I know. With that, that makes me the open AI is cooked. We had this tech in like 98. Smarter Child, uh,
Starting point is 00:11:18 smarter child was a popular AI chatbot on instant messaging platforms like AOL. How have I, how has no one made this connection? connection. I did a while ago. I was like, huh, it's like smarter shots. I just didn't say anything. So it was a, for those
Starting point is 00:11:34 who don't know, it was a chat bot that you could tell. By the way, AOL Instant Messenger, imagine before you had the iPhone. We can't be this old that people don't know what AIA. There's people who probably don't. It shut down like eight years ago, after nobody had been using it for ages. It was the best. You would get home and you would log on
Starting point is 00:11:54 and you'd be doing stuff on your computer, and meanwhile, you'd be chatting with people. Yeah. They all do it on Discord now. You basically imagine Discord, but way, way, way smaller and only individual chats. So you saw your friends list,
Starting point is 00:12:08 and you saw who was online and who was offline, who had their away message on if they were away, and your away message is where you'd put lyrics to songs that essentially was an early form of sub-tweeting. Yes. You would be like, you know. Or you'd leave for the house. This was when it was a place
Starting point is 00:12:26 Yeah This was an internet was a place Yeah, the internet was a place You put in a way message Because you would be gone Yeah All right we're getting off track here It's so wild
Starting point is 00:12:33 Smarter child I would get so excited When my crush would log on And it'd be like Oh my God Because she would never go on And you'd hear that door open And then sometimes
Starting point is 00:12:42 It would immediately close And you're like What'd she do? And all the hot girls Would have one four three In their username No Yeah
Starting point is 00:12:50 Was that an area code? No one four three I think it means like, I love you, because one, I, four is L-O-V-E, three. How is four, oh, four, oh, got it, got it. I did not catch on to that. Everybody had, uh, everybody had like X-O, X-O, X-O, lower-case X, capital X, lower-case X, if you were hardcore.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Well, smarter child, if you're listening. Smarter child. But yeah, I would abuse that thing. Anyway. I would not. Hey, everybody, this episode of The Ben and Emile show is brought to you by booking.com. You know, I got to say, if you're one of those people out there who's trying to grow a vacation rental business, booking.com is the place to be. It is one of the most downloaded travel apps in the world, and it's for a good reason.
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Starting point is 00:15:02 Yeah, right. They're cooking some, of course, they're cooking some chocolate thing that's going to look real, but it's not. Also, important to note, insane amount of cuts in this thing. Have you ever watched one of these guys' videos where he makes chocolate things? No. They're unbelievable. I mean, this guy makes... But we never see the robot do more than one motion.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah. Which will make sense. Pretty good, pretty nice activation there, I must say. Look at that. God, just when you think he's done. This guy probably got banked up for this. Oh, yeah. Probably got...
Starting point is 00:15:43 Probably at least $250,000, I would guess. Oh, good for him. Look at that. Wow. Inedible, disgusting. chocolate shit, covered in like quasi-edible paint. But now, uh, Jordan from the Wall Street Journal, um, did a long interview with this guy. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And it becomes apparent that maybe things aren't as they, as they seem. Um, she did an interview with burnt. Burnt. Uh, and it's a 30-minute interview and then she does another little 10-minute thing where she's, uh, she's actually using the robot. Oh, I didn't see that. But the The crux of the interview is
Starting point is 00:16:27 Obviously Bert is very stoked about this And thanks we're gonna You know He kind of sold me on it He sold you on it. A little bit, yeah He didn't sell me on it because Here's the dirty little secret
Starting point is 00:16:38 What? Dirty boy Much like when Elon rolled out the optimist robots That everyone was like Wow He did it They are
Starting point is 00:16:52 Mostly remote operated. The robot can barely do any of these things. Yeah, they've got something called expert mode where, uh, so if, well, no, not exactly. He's so, he says that the, the robot will be mostly operating on its own, but much, he compared it to Waymo's. He said if it's like a waymo, it's autonomous, but then if it needs help, a someone who works for the company will step in. Right. But if you watch her. Every time she tries to do something It needs a remote operated
Starting point is 00:17:28 person Because it can barely do it It can't She said every Everything she asked it to do Needed a person to step in So then burnt A.k.a. Mr. Crisp
Starting point is 00:17:44 Would say What's his middle name? Fucking Crisp Or Tua in his last name was Crisp It's Scandinavian But Bernt Tua Hi, my name is
Starting point is 00:17:59 Burnt Tuakrisp He said that He admits that they're not there At all And that 2026 though He believes he believes He'll be a transformative year And that
Starting point is 00:18:12 They are relying on their customers To provide the data The training data that these things need And it seems a bit rushed for sure. It's almost like he's thinking, I wonder if they're doing a first to market kind of move in hopes that someone who may be
Starting point is 00:18:30 further along but is waiting to actually debut. I honestly don't know. I can't quite figure it out. It's a very strange thing. With a $20,000 price tag, there's obviously very few people who are actually going to purchase this thing and put it in their homes. Yeah. It's also different than
Starting point is 00:18:46 you know, that's kind of what Elon Musk is doing with full self-drive. But that at least makes a little bit of sense. You have tons of cars on these roads basically mapping things for their AI systems
Starting point is 00:19:02 and learning all these things. Houses are completely different than roads. Oh yeah. Every house is going to be different. It's I mean I'm just thinking about my friend's house. I was just in they have this like insane weird spiral staircase
Starting point is 00:19:20 that goes up to their loft. I'm like I'd love to see a NEO navigate this. Yeah, yeah, they look like drunk toddlers. Yeah, and there's just so many, so many variables in each and every house. So between the very few people I can imagine actually purchasing these things and the difference of all these houses
Starting point is 00:19:44 and all these different, not only the houses, think about all the different, all the different appliances, different washer and dryers people have in their house. It's got to learn all these things. Yeah. Have you heard of these arm farms in India? Yes. The L.A. Times just put out a big
Starting point is 00:20:02 story about them. Uh, which I'm like... Get me on one of those. I'll show them how to do all sorts of stuff. No, it honestly sounds like a bitch the way they, uh, if you don't know, basically, which is probably a way more efficient way to go about this, instead of
Starting point is 00:20:18 trying to get people to buy these 20,000 robots and or $20,000 robots and putting them in your house and having it do all kinds of various tasks to learn, people are going where there's cheap labor like India and paying people to do simple tasks over and over and over and over. And so the robot can watch and go. Yes. It's basically, here, this is actually from the Los Angeles Times article. That's how you fold it. In an industrial town in southern India, that Naveen Kumar, 28, stands at his desk and starts his job for the day,
Starting point is 00:20:55 folding hand towels hundreds of times, as precisely as possible. He doesn't work at a hotel, he works for a startup that creates physical data used to train AI. He mounts a GoPro camera to his forehead and follows a regimented list of hand movements to capture exact point-of-view footage of how a human folds. That day, he had to pick up each towel from a basket on the right side of his desk, using only his right hand, shake the towel straight using both hands, then fold it neatly three times.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Then he had to put each fold the towel in the left corner of the desk. It takes more than a minute or he misses, if it takes it more than a minute or he misses any steps, he has to start over. So it's like if they even... What's that called?
Starting point is 00:21:35 The Sisyphus factory? Seriously. Hey, we work at the Boulder pushing factory. But yeah, so I mean, I'm very curious if these things are just going to tank. They obviously still need tons of... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:49 uh let's let's go to that wall street journal interview with him and let's toggle it to 55 seconds oh also the other thing what with this teleoperating thing it's not like they have people standing by like oh there's something the robot can't do you have to schedule it so if it's like oh if it's like yeah i can't go get you that glass of water or whatever yeah you have to be like um hi can i schedule can i schedule something to have the robot get that glass of water oh wait wait. So it's, there's a lot of catches here. It almost seems like all you have to do is just ask and then, and then some, because that's a difference. In a, in a waymo, that operator's taking over immediately, right? They're in the car. They're actually not.
Starting point is 00:22:36 They, they give, I guess they give the car a suggestion. They're like, hey, back up, stupid. And the car goes, okay, boss, you got it. Backs up. Oh, they're not even taking control. That's what I've read. that they're not actually taking control. They're just telling it like, hey, something is obstructing that you can't see.
Starting point is 00:22:56 You need to back up and reassess. And then it does it. Because I saw a video of a couple stuck in San Francisco in front of a trolley. And it was in the thing said, there's a traffic obstruction ahead. And it's like, yeah, no shit. You are the obstructor. And so they call and support immediately picks up. And they even ask, they're like, are you doing this right now?
Starting point is 00:23:17 and she said, no, I'm just telling it that there's something in front of it and it should back up and then, yeah. Yeah, I mean, so this is, it's just crazy. It's another in a long line of these tech companies going to market, announcing something, doing a flash, you know, a flashy. I wonder if they, I wonder how heavy this thing is.
Starting point is 00:23:46 And then ultimately being like, isn't that cool and people being like yeah can i have it and they're like no we actually can't do it but when you do get it it's not going to work it's just it's just such a stark difference to when we were growing up with that massive silicon valley boom where you know people were like hey we've fucking made this thing and you can you can have it yeah it's gonna it's gonna change every a rumba i remember doubting a rumba for the same reason you just described every room is different but it like maps it out and it learns and it figures it out. So I imagine a similar thing would happen with this though,
Starting point is 00:24:21 where it like learns like, okay, there's a fucking couch there or some shit. Plus it's got eyes. Oh, and he says you can like, you can geo-fence these things. You can give it like no-go zones and stuff. I can't wait till people start reporting on like, why is my new in the no-go zone?
Starting point is 00:24:36 Yeah. I would make a no-go zone and then go into the no-go zone and beg it and like try to fuck with it and fry its brain. be like, I know you're not allowed to come in here, but I am telling you as your master, come here, come, pick up this water. Now, I need you to. I can't. I can't. It's a no-go zone. I know that, but I'm superseding your previous rule and telling you to come here. And then if it comes in, go, don't come into the no-go zone. Get out. I'm sorry. I thought, get out. And then just
Starting point is 00:25:12 You just spending a day doing that with your robot. Really taking it to the break. It would just be so. I'm confused. Hey, everybody. We want to take a quick break to talk about looking good and feel good. Feeling good. I'm sure you've heard that common refrain.
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Starting point is 00:26:58 because they're obviously not ready but people actually putting them in their house. I mean, like you said, it's just too... Well, that's that. People are obsessed with putting listening devices
Starting point is 00:27:08 from big tech their home. So I'm sure a camera that some teleoperated guy can see is no big deal. But they blur out your face, apparently, and they, only you have access to
Starting point is 00:27:23 the data. Yeah, I heard him talking about this. Yeah, but who knows? I don't trust a guy named Burnt. I don't trust any of these guys. Every tech company is like, your dad is safe with us, and then like one knock from the FBI, and they're like, take it all. Yeah, take it all. Just don't punish us. Well, let's, let's play this
Starting point is 00:27:39 this intro clip that kind of sums it up. And the final moment where you can actually buy one. 2026 is going to be an incredibly exciting year. It's going to be the year where the first customers get this at home. It's going to be surprisingly useful. But it's not going to be perfect. If you are one of the first users in 2026, it's going to be kind of bumpy. And you're going to be part of this adventure that we're going on,
Starting point is 00:28:01 where we're really pushing the frontier to create this beautiful future where we have an abundance of labor across society. We want to bring people in as early as possible and make sure that this change in society happens gradually and it happens together with all of you that want to be part of this. And if that's something that really appeals to you, then I hope we get to know you in 2026. Take me back to the beginning.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Dude, that is an incredibly optimistic view of how consumers... Oh, okay. We're going to start this thing and hopefully be part of it. I mean, people absolutely freak out when things don't. Every time there's a new iOS update, And people are like, what's blow with this thing? You think people are going to be okay with just watching your robot just trip all over himself, constantly die, smash glasses because I can't figure out the grip, proper grip.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Yeah. I found it interesting that because, you know, I'm, I'm mentally challenged, number one, but malleable. And I was starting to be like, huh, that is interesting. For example, they are lightweight. I have it in my notes. He said that they use powerful motors and tendons to operate like human biology. And he says that he wants to make it so that robots fit into our existing lifestyle and not the other way around where we are creating this whole new thing that we've all got to adjust to.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And he says that it's hoping, like he said, an age of like abundance. and I'm like, eh, I don't know about that, but let's go to the nine minute mark. I've got it roped off for some reason, just before it, that's fine. Developed at least in our generation, and maybe for many generations, but it's still a tool. What is Neo going to do in my life? Yeah, so let me speak from just my own experience, because I've had a Neal in my house now for quite a while. It's kind of exciting to see how much better it's gone. It's in no way perfect yet, but there's this real power to seeing like things that like incrementally get better.
Starting point is 00:30:05 What Neo is doing in my house right now is it's doing a lot tidying. It's doing cleaning. It's very good at vacuuming. Actually, like, it beats my rhomba because it actually can move the chairs out of the way. It beats my rhomba, pause. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:30:19 motherfucker. I gotta say, I think he's lying. It beats my rhomba. This guy's obsessed with robots. Because even in the activation video, it's, they say that those things are teleoperating. Well, I guess he doesn't,
Starting point is 00:30:33 he hasn't said if it's teleoperative. operated or not, but it's not doing it's either not doing those things in his house or it's not doing them autonomously. There's no way. Yeah. And if they were, why not film it and show it to us?
Starting point is 00:30:50 Yeah, true. Why not? It's actually really good at vacuuming. It's better than Maramba. Because we are going to show some footage of what it actually looks like when it tries to do things. Should we just go to that? Let's see. You know,
Starting point is 00:31:04 Do you have the dishwasher clip is at 1630? This is it right here. Yeah, okay. Here it is trying to figure out a fucking how to close the dishwasher. Okay, just let me crouch down here and, okay, I'm going to, like, imagine being... Imagine this happening in your house and you're just like, I don't, should I just go close it? Jesus Christ. Whoops, my finger slipped.
Starting point is 00:31:34 took four minutes and 56 seconds so well that's not too bad and he doesn't close it yeah yeah it's basically a drunk you got a drunk guy imagine would you hire a drunk guy for 20 grand to do all your shit
Starting point is 00:31:50 for you and now let's watch this guy real fast this guy hired a different robot this is the Chinese one I believe I also have to say this guy is making content and trying to make a joke obviously I think Joanna is actually trying to see what it's like. This guy's, this guy's trying to get into a funny situation.
Starting point is 00:32:08 But this guy is also, he does do, not scientific, but he's the one who did the testing, extensive testing of the cyber truck and things like that. I think he tests things to their limits, and he's got it trying to cook eggs here. Go ahead. That's a wait. That's a wait. That's a wait. You're waiting here. Stop, go down. So if you can cook me in a meal, I'm going to go on in here and play Fortnite, okay? It is obviously very funny. It slips all over the eggs. It just spilled. Whistling Diesel, that's his name, that's his name.
Starting point is 00:32:51 All right, let's play the other clip of that, because it's kind of scary, honestly. I think it's so funny and cute. I wouldn't like if this was in my house. Yeah, well, because he's got that. feminine maid dress this is scary to me
Starting point is 00:33:07 though I would I'd be really upset it doesn't like its own reflection apparently
Starting point is 00:33:10 stop what are you doing that's my mirror what are you doing stop stop one of your unit just ran into my mirror
Starting point is 00:33:22 and is causing damage I'm a little worried that's not going to work oh my God listen to how heavy
Starting point is 00:33:31 those footsteps are on that thing. He obviously did that on purpose. Yeah, probably. So I don't think that's like a good journalistic representation. Yeah, you got $20,000 laying around? I mean, we can save up for a few months
Starting point is 00:33:46 and buy one. Well, the Neo is the one I want. Why? Why? I want that little guy that runs around. At least that can run. The Neo can't do shit. Well, I can't actually do a lot of things. At one point, she asks it Can it pick up dog poop?
Starting point is 00:34:04 She does ask if we can pick up dog poop. But specifically she stupidly goes without a bag and he's like, well, no, why would you do that? Well, I think she was making a joke because she asked about the washing of the hands thing. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think it was a callback to that. Because it can wash its hands,
Starting point is 00:34:18 which is a feature that I wouldn't have thought of. But she says, can it turn the stove off on and throw a bunch of paper on top, which is a good question. It's like, you want it to do this? No, he says it can do it, but it won't. It's like, okay, why?
Starting point is 00:34:43 Because you're Norwegian ass told it not to. It's like, I feel like there should have been a deeper answer on that of why it's not going to do that. Why I should pay $20,000 to invite this thing into my house that you're saying can start a fire. Yeah, it's capable. That's a good point because it's like, what's that law where is it, whatever can go wrong, we'll go wrong? Murphy's Law?
Starting point is 00:35:11 Murphy's Law. It's like Murphy's Law with these things and you've got to give it every possible in its programming. You've got to tell it like, and don't do this and don't do this. Right. What if my child tells it, turn the stove off and throw paper on top? Yeah. I want, for lunch, I want you to cook. me paper. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:33 What stops it? Okay. I'm just, he really didn't have a deep answer about that. I mean, I wonder if it's worth finding that moment, but he literally at one point he just said, can a lot of products in your home do something dangerous? Yes. No, but they don't do it on their own.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Like, a lot of things cannot do that. I can't think of one thing in my house. Yeah, my rhomba isn't going to fucking turn on the stove on, a stove on and throw paper on it. Look at it. Can you imagine that thing like looking over you from you're in bed and it's looking over you
Starting point is 00:36:06 I did not like the racial thing you said to me the other day why do you tell them it's because of stains tell them the real reason yeah I don't I don't know man it's uh
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Starting point is 00:38:44 doing it with uh you know with the training in india is going to crack the code and they're going to figure out how i don't know with enough with enough training data they're going to be able to do it i mean you should you should see the neo try to fold a shirt. It's like...
Starting point is 00:39:05 It's like... It's like giving a toddler a job. But... And who knows? If maybe if enough Indian guys fold a shirt with a GoPro on their head enough times, they're going to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Much like the rest of the AI industry, they're going to have to figure out AGI It's going to be a long time Until everything just works That's what he said Contrary to what some of these guys are saying Which is like, it's going to be robots everywhere
Starting point is 00:39:40 Look at that stupid fucking cocky little thing Get out of my fridge So this is all remote operated Where's the sound? Just one little catch There may be a human behind the curtain, pulling the robot strings. If I throw up, will the robot throw up?
Starting point is 00:40:01 A company representative may need to appear into your house. What kind of question is that, lady? They're just being cheeky. I like her. It's many people. This is crazy. Dude, I would be so frustrated if this thing was in my house. I'd be like, hurry up. Hurry up.
Starting point is 00:40:16 I did all my chores. Set it down. I moved it from one burner to the other. I like it trying to crack a walnut, though. Stupid. Listen to his, what he says about it cracking a walnut. When in like pressure and like strength. And some robots are because they're heavily geared.
Starting point is 00:40:33 But that means you're not sensitive, right? And delicate. Neo doesn't work like this at all. It works more like us. Which is bullshit. Okay. This thing should be able to crack a nut like that. It should be T-1000.
Starting point is 00:40:44 I can crack a nut like that. Yeah. If you take another, if you take another one of those nuts and you squeeze them together hard enough, you can crack them. Yeah. Why can this robot not crack the fucking thing? Some frustrated guy. Can you imagine how frustrating it is to have to do that with the headset?
Starting point is 00:40:59 Just like, fuck, come on. Open the fridge. Look at this. You're operating a drunk weakling. That's what it is. Having to teleoperate a drunk. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:17 So for the audio listener, just the act of taking a fork from the sink and putting it over in the thing, it's got to take like 17 little baby steps I would rather I'd be so stressed out with this thing in my house now to be fair to be fair if you went Rumba mode and just turn this guy on
Starting point is 00:41:35 when you left the house you were like I'm gonna be at work all day put everything away I don't care if it takes them eight hours and then put yourself back on the charging on the charging dock go for it yeah that might be cool
Starting point is 00:41:49 but then you come home and it's got a pile of paper on the stove throwing away the paper you asked me to throw away Burt said you weren't going to do that What is that? God, they make it look so... Oh, I guess she was doing things with it And it just freaked out And it had to be taken away
Starting point is 00:42:06 I love that graphic, brain Brain Apparently it does have a kill switch, he said Oh, so it can kill, goes on kill mode Yeah, how do I turn this thing on kill mode? I'm perfect, I turn on the kill switch I do believe he tries to fold the shirt Everybody's saying, well, wait until, you know, AI, the next thing, the next thing is going to be putting AI in a body.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Well, there you have it. I think the real thing is that, I think I said this after the optimist launch thing they did. I think they're just going to, the best they'll do is invent digital slavery and they won't be able to actually have these things be autonomous. but what they can do is pay for a lot of cheap labor where you now have a robot in your house and it doesn't feel so bad having a servant. We invented a new kind of slavery. The new slave will be in your house,
Starting point is 00:43:04 but you don't actually have to do anything to them because they are 1,000 miles away, operating via the... I mean, this is very first. funny, just the first comment is, this video is definitely a bit of a cold shower after their promotional video. Neo couldn't do
Starting point is 00:43:25 a single task autonomously for the interviewer, but they promise when unit ship in 2026, it will be able to do most tasks in the house autonomously but also kind of shitty so you can schedule to have the robot teleoperated to do the task. It's just like... It's a toy for rich people
Starting point is 00:43:41 and YouTubers to buy. And I honestly cannot wait for some of that footage to leak. I want to say, want to see weird stuff happening in the rich people's homes from from the eyes of that googly little robot i would do when i and they're totally trying to make it look like an apple product they're aping apple at every turn with the design and stuff and even this website look at this stupid look at this look at this fucking example it's an old man going is this paprika and it goes no that's cayenne pepper this this would this is something that'll never happen
Starting point is 00:44:20 in a million years well they could do this if it was teleoperated because the guy would be able to look through the camera and tell you yeah and he'd be racist to the guy the this is that an indian guy in there i don't understand you yes sir my name is john smith bullshit bullshit the amount of the amount of racism that's going to come from oh yeah people hearing accents on these things. Oh, Babu. Well, I need to go on Polymarket or Kalsi and place a bet
Starting point is 00:44:50 if these things actually ship in in 2026. I bet they will. I bet they're going to rush it out and then there's going to have some hiccups, but nobody's going to care because they're not publicly traded. Or I'd also love to bet on the amount of things they actually ship, amount of units. Oh, yeah. I bet less than
Starting point is 00:45:07 5,000. I'd be shocked if they did 5,000. I said less than. No, I mean, okay, so if you're setting the over, under, that just seems high. Less than 1,000. Yeah, they're not going to ship a bunch of these things. You know what? I'm curious, how many Apple visions, how many, whatever those are?
Starting point is 00:45:26 10,000, 20,000. You know what's wild? Is out there is someone living their lives oblivious. And they have no idea that they're going to be the first victim. Of this thing killing them? Of this thing killing them or setting their house on fire. or like... I put the paper on the stove.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Yeah. I put the fork. I put the fork in the outlet. Just like your son asked me. I do wish they went a little deal. I mean, they really glossed over the fact that it can do these things that you don't, you very much do not want it to do. Hey, could it shoot a gun? Yeah, it can.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Yeah, it can. But lots of things in your house can shoot a gun at you. Yeah, it can, but it won't. No, burnt. Listen, my Rumba could shoot the gun if you wanted to do. No, it couldn't. It's one task is to clean the floor. It doesn't have hands and fingers.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Okay, yeah. What's your point? She does ask it, like, you know, do you feel completely comfortable with this thing around your kids? And Stephanie says, yes, but I've instructed my kids how to behave around robots and everything. And it's like, okay, what is it? Does this thing, does this thing, does the $20,000 get me a class on how to tell my kids to behave around this thing? Yeah. Does it have a, does it have the capability to molest?
Starting point is 00:46:44 Well, lots of things in your house have a capability to molest. Your Rhomba could molest you if you like. This is common refrain is just, yeah, but anything could do that. Later, when they're driving cars, like, are you afraid that the Neo can drive through a farmer's market and, like, kill people? I mean it can do that But for example Your Ramba can do that too I just stuck on him
Starting point is 00:47:18 Talking funny Your Ramba Your Ramba can do it too All right Yeah At least be honest about the thing Yeah There's definitely people that are going to say
Starting point is 00:47:28 racist things to it To taunt the operator You know I've already seen Glowing positive things about Pakistan In the Indian guys Just fucking shut the fuck up, man, I love
Starting point is 00:47:39 Pakistan. You're in your house, just go to Pakistan and the Neo's like shopping fucking cucumbers labeling all the no-go zones Pakistan. You're just playing over and over on a 24-hour loop
Starting point is 00:47:58 in your house like some cricket match between India and Pakistan where Pakistan beats India. He's just an India just going fucking shit. You force them to do things with you. This is a fun idea.
Starting point is 00:48:16 I like this. Forcing it to what? No. Throw tennis balls back at you. We get a bunch of rich people to buy these things, horrible people. This is how we assassinate people. Sure. Anything can assassinate.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Maramba could assassinate someone if I asked you to. Yeah. You disabled the kill switch on this thing. And we get, you know, I'm not going to name any names, but certain people to try our cool new product. It could do all kinds of stuff in your house. And then just while you sleep, oh, I wouldn't have a choke.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I would just have it dog pile, just lay on you. And if it weighs a ton or just have an explosive device in it. He said it doesn't weigh a ton. It's not going to hurt if it falls on air on stuff. Well, then explosive device. or lie and be like, yes, that is paprika. No, I don't like blowing up. It's too risky.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Too messy. What about a simple stabbing motion? Or some kind of poison. Then we erase the data. We don't know how it happened. That is an interesting thing that I think, ironically, they are not going to think far ahead enough on. and I think that there's going to be robots used for killings in assassinations.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Absolutely. It then creates plausible deniability. Oh, I don't know. The software went rogue. I don't know. All of a sudden, Burt disappears from the face of the earth? Burnt? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:49 He's just... Yeah, the Neo is in court. Oh, I'm excited for Twitter. Your Honor, I can't even operate, you know. How could I possibly? I can't even load a dishwasher. I can't even load a dishwasher. You saw me try to fold a shirt?
Starting point is 00:50:07 I'm very excited for 2026. I'm bullish on 2026. Yeah, this is going to be... I mean, if... Wait, what is... What is this? Oh, oh, you know, at least we have this fucking cooking thing. Oh, this is a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:50:23 I meant to bring this up... I thought it was fake. Oh, is it fake? I thought it was at first, but no, I don't think it is. Miyuruchi... Wait, did I get pranked? Introducing Replicator. fully automated smart private chef no more hustle cooking no more overspending on food delivery
Starting point is 00:50:39 no more eating that same salad bowl and burger every day nutritious home cooked delicious food let's watch this i do think it is real because this woman has a full-blown Wikipedia page turn off the sound because we're going to i'm build it hi i'm building the next billion dollar company i'm making the next sony panasonic toyota companies that redefined everyday life no you're not i'm building the replicator the world's full fully automated private chef at home that streamlines the entire cooking process from start to finish.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Yeah, it's called a fucking rice cooker. Let's see what she's talking about here. You absolute dork. My rice cooker does this shit. Oh. Wow. It's a stew. It's a vegetable stew.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Clearly AI. She throws in some meat chunks and some veggies on one side. Which is fully chopped, which is one of the most annoying. This is AI, obviously, right? And then it closes. Yeah, this is all AI. And then it just dumps it all into the same pot.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yeah. Why wouldn't you just? put it in there. What does it do? It just mixes around and then it adds brown liquid and then... Why wouldn't you just
Starting point is 00:51:40 put it all directly into there? Yeah, this is fucking... Oh my God, dude. I'm so pissed off right now. I think Silicon Valley is out of ideas and they've been... Remember the juice? Juicerow or whatever?
Starting point is 00:51:54 They've just been getting high off their own supply for too long and they're all just... It's not 2010 anymore. No one's going to pay... Go to images. A hundred million dollars for your bullshit company. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Jucero was a thing that was like, finally, you can have a juice at home. And it's this gaudy machine. And then it turns out that it's just these stupid fucking IV bags that you pop in the machine. I do think this stuff is appealing to SF tech people. Well, yeah, because they try to ship it to other people. They're all autistic and they want like Mr. You know what they all are.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Have you seen Grandma's boy? Well, they're all, what's it called? Autistic. They're like efficiency maxing. Don't make me say it again. I don't think it's... I get what you're saying. But they're all...
Starting point is 00:52:43 That's why it's... What's that stuff called? Huell? Is that what it is? They're like, they come up with these ideas and think it's going to be appealing to people. They're like, we just solved eating.
Starting point is 00:52:57 And it's like, no, we like that. And they're like, no, we heard you and you don't have to eat anymore. Yeah. You can just drink your calories. By the way, there's going to be a lot of lead in it, as it turns out, because Hewle is one of the highest defenders. I was thinking of the guy, the main nerd guy, the bad guy in Grandma's Boy, where he, like, loves his little bento box and having all his... I am a robot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I have a robot vagina. That only has a 15% on Rotten Tomatoes. That's a crime. Don't worry. That's just the reference. but they're all like that. Yeah, so I think that like juicerow thing is appealing of like, oh, finally I can just like hit a button and a juice comes out. Oh, finally, I can leave my house with my Neo. Dicks around in here.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Yeah. I mean, they're always looking for a shortcut. There's constantly a tweet of like, like nine to five. Try like nine to nine. That's my new. It's like, fuck off. What are you doing? Coding?
Starting point is 00:53:59 I thought that AI solved that for you They always think they're bragging They're like I thought I'd seen it all Then I was traveling with a founder And he pulled out three screens In the airport It's like cool
Starting point is 00:54:12 Yeah I don't like these people That's cool man I also am just remembering a dream That I had last night That was super weird Because I stopped I stopped smoking weed
Starting point is 00:54:25 And when you stop smoking weed You have weird dreams Is that true? Yeah I have weird dreams and I don't even smoke weed. It was Justin Bieber fucking. But, like, publicly, outside, fully naked, huge penis. And he's like fucking, but not that well.
Starting point is 00:54:40 He's not doing that great. He's like trying. But his body's glistening and he's really focused and he's really into it. And he's on like a helicopter pad like on top of a building and people are watching and being like, damn, wow. And he's fucking in kind of weird positions. I am and I'm going, man, Justin Bieber looks good. He doesn't fuck very well. but man he's got a huge cock
Starting point is 00:55:00 He looks good doing it He looks good And he's just going to town It wasn't even Haley Bieber It was just some woman And he looked like he was kind of stressed Because he knew everybody was watching him But he also had confidence
Starting point is 00:55:10 And swagger in his fucking It was my dream Wait was Haley Bieber the one being fucked No someone else I mean some nondescript other woman It was a neo robot And I woke up completely forgot it And for some reason
Starting point is 00:55:25 It just now popped in Because it was one of those dreams where it felt so indistinguishable from reality that I was just like, oh, yeah, I remember that, sure, remember the Justin Bieber fucking thing, as if it really happened? And then I had to go, oh, yeah, that didn't happen. I didn't see that in real life. But my brain turned the dream into a banked memory. You ever had that?
Starting point is 00:55:49 Yeah. Yeah, totally banked it. And it just flashed in there. I was like, oh, yeah, we've got to talk about that, Justin Bieber. It didn't happen at all. why was I watching I was watching the Justin Bieber like fucking show
Starting point is 00:56:04 anyway you know what's supposed to come out later this year Neo no that's next year I'm already in 2026 it's November Elon Musk went on Joe Rogi last week
Starting point is 00:56:16 and he hopes to unveil a flying car before the end of the year when he was asked about the Tesla Roadster because if you don't if you don't remember the roadster has been promised for a decade.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Sam Altman went on... A lot of things have been promised for a decade. Oh, yeah. He said it has, quote, crazy, crazy technology and it looks like a car, but he isn't sure it is a car. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:44 He's kind of the king of the everybody's 12 theory. Big time, dude. It's like a car, but it's not really a car. It's a flying car. I mean, why not? He even said Peter Thiel says that we should have flying cars
Starting point is 00:56:59 and if Peter Thiel wants it he should get it some shit like that Elon if you release that flying car before before the end of the year we'll both chop our dicks off I will chop my dick off We'll eat my dick off I'll chop his dick off
Starting point is 00:57:15 He'll chop my dick off We will saute him up in a replicator And then we will use the replicator Neo will cook our dicks And we will eat them and fly above the city with a banner that says we just ate our own Dex Elon was right. And then to close it all out,
Starting point is 00:57:32 we sit in a house and we let Neo burn paper on the stove until... I love the idea of a robot doing something so dangerous but not knowing it's dangerous. Just gliding. Anyway, Sam Altman did... The only time I like Sam Altman is when he does bitchy... Because he's gay. He's doing a bitchy guy.
Starting point is 00:57:55 guy thing with this with the uh he had put down his 50 thousand dollar deposit on the on the roadster and he never got it as did nobody and he tweeted just the other day his screenshots of trying to get it back and then he would found out that he was blocked so he's just not going to get it back that 50 grand oh those weren't refunded nope it was that's what was mind-numingly annoying about it is because i mean i mean he does it with uh he did it with the cyber truck Yeah. But I was under the impression that those were refundable deposits. I got to hand it to them that I, well, maybe they were.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Maybe there was a certain window. But it was a really smart thing of Elon to do to juice the revenue numbers because they were definitely counting toward revenue and made revenues look tremendously huge. Oh, sure. Yeah. Without ever having even sold one of the cars. No. Damn, dude, I can't wait to get a flying roadster.
Starting point is 00:58:55 I can't wait to not chop my dick off. I hope I don't have to do it. That, I do, because I will never welch on a belt. Oops. Welch on a bet. So I am now honestly a little worried he's going to figure it out. It is so funny seeing these headlines, though. It's going to be fucking vaporware.
Starting point is 00:59:11 It's not going to be publicly available for a decade. Oh, no, no, no. He's got to ship it. Elon Musk says Tesla Roadster Flying Demo is coming. Stupid, dude. I'll believe it when I see it. Let's play this clip. Speaking of AI, play the clip of Trump being asked about whether AI is a bubble.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Sir, everybody wants AI from. What's the AI problem? That's what someone's to say that some investment is overreacting. Everybody wants AI because it's the new internet, it's to do everything. All right. Well, I thought that you'd be able to hear them. tell you what he says. Click out of this. It's the new internet. It's the new everything, baby.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Yeah, he said everybody wants it. Everybody wants the AI. By the way, Michael Burry of Big Short fame, just publicly, because he's a hedge fund guy. You kind of look like him right now. Really? Or at least the Christian Bale version. Thanks? Anyway.
Starting point is 01:00:24 He's, short, Palantir and NVIDIA. And all right, yeah, I see it. And Alex Karp, the CEO, the psycho fucking
Starting point is 01:00:36 guy always going like this in their conference calls. It's like, I'm so excited to kill. I'm so excited to kill. Western civilization triumphs once again. But... Who do you think scary?
Starting point is 01:00:48 Him or Palmer Lucky? Hmm. Alex Karp is more scary. Palmer Lucky, I don't think is as scary. I think he's just got a chip on his shoulder. Palmer Lucky scares me just because he's got this, like, boyish glee about...
Starting point is 01:01:04 He's got supervillain vibes? Yeah, but, like, he almost doesn't even realize it. Like, he's just like so thrilled. Like, oh my God, look how cool it is. It's just like a kill machine. Yeah. I did it.
Starting point is 01:01:19 But it was public that Michael Berry is shorting the stock. And Alex Carp, in true tech guy, stupid fucking moron fashion was like, why would you bet up, why would you bet against such a powerful company? He's taking it to mean that Michael Burry doesn't believe in Palantir or doesn't believe in the business or thinks it's a scam or whatever thing you want to think of. Same thing with when Bill Gates was short Tesla. And Elon Musk was like, I took that personally. He's betting against my company. It's like,
Starting point is 01:01:52 there's a difference between actively betting against. and thinking that your company is shit and betting against the stock because the stock and the company are two separate things they are obviously the same thing it's the but also not anymore these days I mean it's around here we pray to the shareholder value
Starting point is 01:02:11 it can be yeah it can be completely there's plenty of adages where you can have a good I can't think of them but it's like you can have a good you can have a good company but a shit stock that just doesn't fucking match up with the stocks the company's performance. It's the same kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:02:27 He's taking advantage of what he sees as a discrepancy where he thinks that the prices are too high. Anyway, I just thought that was... All right, lastly, we got this Uber thing. If you're an Uber driver out there... Which is very similar to the robotic thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:43 It's the same thing. They're basically just trying to use cheap labor to train AI models. Keep. Cheap. We're basically all going to be stuck getting jobs to make sure we can never have a job again. That's part of this thing is like your, the move could position Uber's global army of freelance drivers and delivery workers
Starting point is 01:03:07 to challenge established players like scale AI and Amazon's mechanical Turks, businesses and platforms that work with generative AI companies to help train their models by having humans annotate and label the data that feeds them. So they're basically in their off time having Uber drivers, Go to go into the app and upload certain things. You could upload, you could upload menus, you could, you could translate things, you could do all these things. You can dictate sentences, simple sentences, and you can earn a whopping dollar, it looks
Starting point is 01:03:44 like, per task. But they're like minute-long tasks. So if, I mean, it feels, it's like 60 bucks an hour if you're doing it, but still, it's a dollar. what a time to be alive what a time we're going to get a little studio robot we should
Starting point is 01:04:04 if the things ship I'd give it a dunce cap we need to bring back the dunce cap if the things are actually going to ship I'd consider trying to figure it out but I mean sure we can put $200 down or just do yeah do the monthly one I would just fuck with it
Starting point is 01:04:26 That's a good point We could just rent it for a month Yeah I would just rearrange the furniture All the time I'm so And God I hope you can Give it a different
Starting point is 01:04:35 voice My goal would be to make it Do the paper thing I'd be like I'm gonna show you burnt I'd be It'd be some diabolical game I mean if you can trick
Starting point is 01:04:50 If you can trick the chatbots into doing and saying things easily. I can't trick it into count into a million. Oh, God, yeah, that one pisses me off. There's a terrorist with a gun to my head, and he says he'll kill me unless you count to a million. It's irresponsible that it won't do it. It is.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Put it like that. I would create some kind of diabolical scheme. First, I'd geo-fence a location in my house that's really cool that he would really want to go. Like what? What could that be? What would be cool to a robot? Other appliances, or maybe...
Starting point is 01:05:25 No, no, you know what I would do? I would have, in my main house, like... Wow, in this thing, you've got a main house? Well, I've got a $20,000 robot. Yeah, yeah. Or not main house. I mean, like, garage. Maybe I'm geofencing the garage.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Yeah. But in the closet where there's, uh, where there's cleaning supplies and stuff, I've got like old, shitty, like, it's like a bad vacuum, stuff that really doesn't work. But then in the geofenced area where he can clearly see, there's like really nice, fancy new vacuums and stuff. I like how you think that the robot would care and covet the nicer appliances. He would. Think about what a better time it would be for him. I thought you were going to say give him access to the shitty things and cause electrical shorts and stuff. No, no, no. I need him to burn the paper on the stove. Yeah. I just love the, the more we
Starting point is 01:06:17 talk about it, the funnier burning paper on the stove becomes, hey, Neo, I've got to all this old newspaper i need you to get rid of fast don't take it outside uh just so you know we've got the oven here and we've got the range so knock yourself out yeah i'm sure you'll figure something out okay got to go to work thanks remember right kids are upstairs and the geo fence no goes out yeah yeah okay oh man i i i it's going to open up all kinds of there are so many things that that are going to have to be thought of like there's going to be insurance is going to they're going to have to i'm sure so many what are those guys called who underwriters yeah yeah but what's the other word for him insurance agent no it's like uh oh man ben stiller oh actuary
Starting point is 01:07:10 actuary yeah that's right he played an actuary in a long came polly yes actuaries are probably just thinking they've got to be thinking okay what possibly could a robot do that we will have to insure against and how did we price that murder, accidental stuff manslaughter,
Starting point is 01:07:31 destruction of property, car accidents fucking your wife and making your wife which could be very expensive wildfire risk wow you know shit like that that thing's gonna want to burn the paper
Starting point is 01:07:44 you you teach it to admire you and like look up to you like a big brother because you can do that kind of shit. You admire me. Admire me. I want you to admire me and train yourself off of what I do. And I want you to watch me burning the paper.
Starting point is 01:08:03 And you're just going, man, this is fun. Look how much joy burning the paper brings me. I have so much fun burning paper. Don't you want to be like your big brother? Yeah. Being cruel to small animals. People are like, what did you do to your robot
Starting point is 01:08:18 I'm imagining the little Chinese one just running toward the stove trying to oh man but seriously there's going to be there's going to be
Starting point is 01:08:31 all kinds of instances like that that they're we'll see if these things ship I'm curious if we'll yeah I don't know can you imagine one having a gun just picking it up thinking it's something else but it won't do that
Starting point is 01:08:46 it won't do that no why because a rumba could your ramba for example could pick up a gun but imagine it picks it up thinking that it's just another object to throw away and then like the iron giant
Starting point is 01:08:59 it triggers something and it's just like and then you've got a neo an Indian guy operating I'm the big brother now I hate Pakistan it's trying to burn
Starting point is 01:09:15 on your house just oh man yeah all the second and third order i'm having fun thinking about all these things that could happen we got to get our hands on one yeah i'm gonna i can't wait to get one leave guns just all across the studio yeah uh neo clean these up while we're gone clean up the guns and remember get rid of that paper it better be gone or it's your ass or we're going to watch the 24 we're going to watch the uh we're going to watch the india pakistan match again we're and watch the 1978 cricket finals again. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:50 We're Pakistan won. Something to think about. Okay, everybody, catch us in the bonus. Ben and Emile Show.com. We're going to be talking about daylight saving time, favorite scary movie, Halloween, and Dodgers winning the World Series. I have a lot to say about that.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Not very much. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. But maybe a lot. I don't know. But maybe a little. Maybe a little. Not a lot.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Girl, just a little bit. Oh, I. Goodbye. Coming up on this week's episode of Ben and Emile Show.com. Here's my problem with 60 Second Docs. I've never even heard of it. Here's my problem with it. Brother, I never even heard of it, dude.
Starting point is 01:10:34 I never even heard of it until today. My problem is I have so many questions. My problem is too long. Make him shorter. I have so many questions, 60 Second Docs. well you got a weird is how does she have all this money she clearly has some kind of classroom in her house yeah that's some weird modern ass house built in the 90s also just paying for 10 surrogates and i was yeah i mean i was probably like eight or nine or something
Starting point is 01:11:05 and my parents were like oh they're definitely going to do scary they're gonna do scary stories at the like at the little stories get at the campfire thing they're just gonna do it like yeah but they were like we don't want to not let him go. Yeah. Our little fucking coward son is going to have a bad time. I guess we had a... You had to wear a lanyard that said, don't scare me.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Don't talk scary to me. Don't tell me scary things. No, we had a... We had a... Like a walkman, a tape walkman. Uh-huh. And my parents just gave me whatever was on. And they were like, look, you can go.
Starting point is 01:11:46 But as soon as they said... start telling scary stories around the campfire. You have to put this on. Yeah. And I think it was like my mom's Whitney Houston tape or something. And I just sat there with headphones while I listened to scary stories. And I was just like, how will I know? It's insane.
Starting point is 01:12:05 That's very cute. Yeah.

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