The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 134: Venezuela- What Just Happened?

Episode Date: January 8, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let's see, did anything big happen? No, come on, you know what happened. After months of chest beating, saber-rattling... They kidnapped Maduro and his wife. Trump at first said that the United States would run Venezuela. It was walked back by Marco Rubio, who was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we're not exactly going to, like, run it. And now Marco Rubio has to go on every news station, and they go, Trump said this, how's that going to work?
Starting point is 00:00:31 And he's going, well, it's not exactly like that. There are so many compilations of him just doing long. Look, there are a lot of guys around the world who need poning. Who do bad things. Yeah. Who we could drum up indictments about it. But is that what we want to. Why aren't we taking Antarctica is what I want to know?
Starting point is 00:00:48 We need it now. Let's go to the South Pole. Not only we need it and it's ours. It was promised to us. Bring the penguins over here. Bring the polar. Well, polar barrels are, I don't know where they are. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:00:58 Well, let's go find out. Get in Hartigan, find out of polar bears it. Puller bears are there. I'm looking at a time with me tell me what's going on. Tell me what's going on. So listen to you're not too bad in me. Tell me what's going on. Tell me what's going on.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Three, two, one. And, and welcome to the podcast of Ben and Amil. I'm, I'm, I'm in. And this, this, Marches, we're here, we're, uh,
Starting point is 00:01:47 uh, of Venezuela. The, the, the, the, If you have a war. No, guero.
Starting point is 00:01:59 An guero. That's how you say it? Isn't it? I don't know. I thought we were guettos. Or I am. To them. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Let's see. Guera. So, whera. Welcome everybody. Welcome everybody. Welcome back to the new. There was an episode last week, but it was pre-recorded. We were gone.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Everyone was... We wish you of Christmas. Wish you a shitty Christmas. Holy Christmas is over. Aren't you not supposed to curse in the... I think it's now in the first 20 seconds, right? I don't know. Do you want to just bleep it, please?
Starting point is 00:02:40 Pull out the... Sorry, Emil. Just popping off on F-words. It's been a day. But so, yeah, that didn't count as the first episode of the New Year because it was filmed in 2025, and we were laying about. on family's sofas
Starting point is 00:02:56 and tending to dogs who were afraid of fireworks because of the New Year's you know that was but this is the real this is the real first episode of the year
Starting point is 00:03:05 yeah welcome back welcome to 20206 is going to be messed up it's going to be epic it's going to be epic but in a bad way we're going to be bad we're going to be naughty
Starting point is 00:03:16 we're going to give you in our bonus today we're going to be talking about our ins and outs of 2026 also I'm going to walk you through why today sucked shit for me
Starting point is 00:03:25 and I had a very annoying not autism triggering moment but I had a I had a very unpleasant afternoon Is it crazy that the universe conspires against you? Sometimes it do feel that way but then I do have to remind myself
Starting point is 00:03:42 that I am a tiny insignificant bug worm and nobody cares nobody's out there trying to fuck unless it's my guardian angel just like fucking with me in which case This would be more of, this would be less of a guardian angel, more of a pest, a sex pest angel.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Yeah, what kind of, what would it be a, I don't know, a predator, a predatory angel. Be sure to follow our other shows. Dylan and I just did our, Dylan and Steve and I just did our top movies of 2025. And there's some, I guess I said a lot of inappropriate things. Why? I said something about black teenagers. What was your top movie? Avatar. Tell me in the bonus. Okay. go on uh you can also watch last chance to see there's going to be a link uh to the description in uh to that in the description uh got a fun one coming out you'll see last seat to chance he's
Starting point is 00:04:38 going to have a clown on a professional we're talking we're talking clowning clowning oh god remember when that was all the rage you know i i've definitely talked about it i was at a party like maybe within the last year where i was talking to someone who was a clown and I was just like, what are he talking about? Yeah. Yeah, I met someone who's now married, good for her. She was single at the time and is a clown. And I thought, oh, that makes sense, looking at you.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Everything about you says clown. I should have honked her nose. Not that kind of clown. A clown in the classical sense of... Oh, yeah, sure. Robin Williams' clown stuff. Being comfortable with the audience's discomfort. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Hey, why don't you just make people have... a nice time. Yeah. Instead of studying the art, the ancient art of clown. Also, the credit card list is live and there's a, I believe the Venture Capital One Venture card X is up there and the sign-up bonus is currently like 75,000 points when you spend like 500 bucks in the first three months. I was just looking too because I, uh, because a friend was asking me about the credit card list. That's my bad. A friend was asking me about travel cards and they, There's, I was like, honestly, just try to find the biggest bonus right now if you go for something. And I think we're looking at MX Platinum had like 175.
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Starting point is 00:06:19 2 p.m. Pacific time, 5 p.m. Eastern time. And who gives a rat's ass? What mountain time? No, we give a rat to ass. We don't know. It's like 3 o'clock or something. We don't know if you guys observe daylight savings times. We don't know what's going on. Nobody knows if you observe that holiday or not. It's an annual holiday. It goes on every single day that they celebrate in the mountains. But we are going to be going live. What? What's holiday is that? Mountain time. No, no, daylight savings time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if they do that. There's weird places, Arizona. I don't know what's going on over there. But we're going to be going over our 2026 predictions bingo card. And wasn't there? Oh, and we're going to do our Q&A. Oh, sure. We're going to answer our questions.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Yeah. Brought to you by Celsius Energy. Yeah, Celsius Energy is sponsoring the whole thing. Yeah. They're going to see how high I can get my heart rate. So tune in for that. And the tagline they wrote was, we won't stop until he dies. So tune in for that.
Starting point is 00:07:15 But I win like a thousand. $1,000 if I win, if I don't die. The only way to win is dying, so... Oh, yeah. So it'll go toward funeral costs. But I don't want a funeral. Or I do, but I don't want to be buried. So it'll go to his progeny, I guess. Launch me into Dissan.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Just fucking hurl me up there. Let me melt in the space. Okay, so let's see. Did anything big happen? No, come on, you know what happened. After months of chest beating, saber-rattling. striking what appears to be their speedboats or fishing boats
Starting point is 00:07:56 very little evidence given of actual drug trafficking and then the horrific double-tap strike stationing naval assets in the Caribbean Chem Carson fully telling us it was going to happen Oh, yeah. Almost to the day. He had predicted January 2nd on Twitter. It's all finally happened. And what was it? January 3rd, Delta Force. Army Delta Force leads a... Delta Force. Different from American Airlines Force.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Much different. You do not... It's a higher. It's a higher. And God help you if you send in United Force. Yeah. United Force, not very good. A very low-quality product. But under bombing bombardment, they move in and kidnap, which is funny. Trump himself says kidnap. But the New York, I feel like the New York Times and BBC are still so used to... What are they saying, arrest? Yeah, they use all kinds of words of like, you know, they'll do anything to say kidnap.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And I think they just, old habits die hard. You know what I mean? They're like, they forget that they don't have to run cover for the administration. Yeah. But they kidnap Maduro and his wife, bring him back to New York City to be tried in this other district of New York. At MDC in Metropolitan Detention Center. Detention Center. I thought it would be nice to just go over some quick facts about how this went down.
Starting point is 00:09:34 It was called Operation Absolute Resolve. salute resolve. At 2 a.m. on January 3rd, over 150 aircraft were involved. They just went in, bombed the shit out of, out of some military targets. They went in to Chavez, or excuse me, Maduro's house. We don't have full casualty numbers, but I think they're estimating at least 80 people are dead. That's right.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Cubans, some Cuban, some Cuban military guys and, and. Maduro's private, not private. Maduro security team. Yes. And I do believe there are at least some civilians dead. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And so currently... Which a lot of people leave out when they talk... Everyone keeps going, and no loss of life doing this whole thing. I'm going... No loss of life on the American side.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Sure. Yeah. And the vice president, a woman named Delcy... I hope I'm saying that right. Delcy Rodriguez was sworn in on Monday. She was the VP for Maduro for about 10 years
Starting point is 00:10:34 and also served under Chavez. And under Maduro, she was put in charge. of oil and like oil exports and turning around their fledgling struggling economy um and it was it was interesting because trump at first said that the united states would run venezuela and he it was walked back by marco rubio who was like whoa whoa whoa whoa we're not exactly going to like run it dude being one of these people who has to uh corral him it's so funny i you know we we watched it when, what, Saturday or Sunday?
Starting point is 00:11:08 When I would have woken up and found out? Sunday. Sunday. And it was the first thing we saw and we're literally just watching his press conference. Watching Trump talk about it, it's unbelievable. You're like, yeah. He's just, I mean, he's admitting everything,
Starting point is 00:11:23 admitting why he's doing it, uh, talking about it's ours now. We're going to basically occupy Venezuela and run Venezuela. We're going to run it. We're going to take the oil because we need it. And now Marco Rubio has to go on every, every news station. And they go, Trump said this.
Starting point is 00:11:41 How's that going to work? And he's going, well, it's not exactly like that. There are so many compilations of him just doing long. Ties. Yeah. He seems like a pretty unhappy guy. And I don't blame him. I go back to that photo of him sitting on the couch.
Starting point is 00:11:57 He's rock hard for this whole thing. Yeah. And now he might also be in. I don't think he's rock hard for managing the phone. fallout, but he's rock hard for regime change and, um, well, that's so, I'm glad you said regime change because it's, it so far seems like the only regime change is just Maduro. Removing Maduro, but her, his VP. Keeping in place, his handpicked VP. Yes. With very similar, uh, ideals and, um, everything. Yeah. And, uh, they're like mission accomplished. She's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:12:32 She's a lawyer Like somebody I know In this room Who's also a lawyer Looks like a job opening might A South American Head of State could be in my future You could pass for so many different races
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Starting point is 00:14:29 misnizn and main stores in select states. So Trump said that Delci Rodriguez is, quote, she is essentially willing to do whatever we think is necessary to make Venezuela great again. But then she went and at a press conference, like totally slammed him and said, no, fuck him. We're going to fight. We're going to work closely with Cuba. And that ain't going to happen.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Also, by far the funniest thing is how quickly he snubbed. Machado, who is basically she was given the Nobel Peace Prize. She's been a big oppositional leader in Venezuela, basically being like,
Starting point is 00:15:12 please, come bomb us. Like, you need to help us by bombing us. And Trump, everyone thought she would be in line for taking over when this all happened. But she didn't give him. Trump immediately hits her with just a,
Starting point is 00:15:25 she's a very nice woman, but she doesn't have the respect. Which is true. She's ruling her out. Dude, she's got like a 90-something percent disapproval. I know. I mean, you've got to give Trump the credit on that. I totally would have assumed he would be dumb enough to try to just install Machado.
Starting point is 00:15:43 But people, there are, I mean, there are so many insane reports flying around this. People are saying that the reason he didn't do that, have you seen this, is because he's pissed that she accepted the award and she thanked Donald Trump. but she did not deny the award and be like this belongs to Donald Trump. The Nobel Peace Prize. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:03 I've seen that too. And she did today. Did you see a few hours ago? Yeah. She said she's willing to give it up. I'm willing to give it up now, sir, please. Can I please be the president of my country? I'll give you to twice, please.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Sir, please. I'll do it. Sir, please. Please, mister. Yeah, it's fucking. insane and acidine. But so Rodriguez then on Sunday kind of backed it up and said she wants a balanced she wants this sounds nice. She wants balanced and respectful international relations between the United States and Venezuela and wants their sovereignty to be respected and all that jazz.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Meanwhile, Marco Rubio said that America is going to continue using their blockade on oil exports and the threat of force as leverage to force Venezuela's government to change the behavior. He said, quote, we want drug trafficking to stop. We want no more gang members to come our way. We don't want to see the Iranian and, by the way, Cuban presence in the past. We want the oil industry in that country not to go to the benefit of pirates and adversaries of the United States. I believe China he's talking about. But for the benefit of the people, we want to see all of that happen.
Starting point is 00:17:20 So basically, hey, do what we want. and maybe you can keep your power over there because Trump also threatened Rodriguez he said who knows if she doesn't play ball she might suffer a fate even worse than Maduro he said we're open to a we're open to a second invasion I mean this whole thing is I just cannot I'm so confused
Starting point is 00:17:41 I have more questions than answers I and folks that's okay so am I couldn't I was telling am you when we did our outline I couldn't have pointed to Venezuela on a map before this I thought I mistook for being in Central America. I thought that it was I thought it was Costa Rica.
Starting point is 00:17:59 I was like, oh, yeah, it's the country that's right in there. But then when I saw it's, you know, the northern part of South America, I went, oh. I just feel like every time Trump... I was wrong. Because obviously,
Starting point is 00:18:11 I mean, all of this is new. So we grew up in the... We were young, but I still remember the great lengths that the Bush administration went to remove the idea from people's minds that we were getting into a quagmire when we were invading Iraq and invading Afghanistan that it was that had anything to do with oil so much so that it became I mean if you were even suggesting a whisper of the fact that we had America had some interest in oil there that goodbye to your Washington Post or New York Times job. you just committed a fo'paw. And so seeing the president just come out and be like,
Starting point is 00:18:58 look, I did this for oil because I just, I fucking love oil so much. I can't stand not having it. I love it so much that black gold is so good to me is so bizarre. Did you see the, I think it was the Department of State. One of the official White House Twitter accounts said, posted a picture that just,
Starting point is 00:19:22 said Our Hemisphere. Well, yeah, I mean, that's a whole... There's that... Like, what the fun? Watching these neocons, Lindsey Graham, we're watching the videos of Lindsay Graham. This is great.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I can't wait to take Cuba next. I've never seen a guy so gleeful. Yeah. And he's on, I mean, they don't even... Forget our hemisphere. He's going on TV and putting on the... Make a run. Great Again Head.
Starting point is 00:19:51 great again hat yeah you know he's just got the weirdest shaved he's got that guy's got shaved balls and his pubs are probably like like that of a uh you're really fixated on people's pubs these days give me one other example when was i fixated on pubs we were talking about who was i talking about commenters will back me up it might have been in the bonus episode they probably will and you're probably right but there was like we were watching some video and you were like and you know their pubs are just bare. Well, it is a new year and I'm no longer toilet guy. I'm now going to be a pub guy.
Starting point is 00:20:27 So that's going to be my new calling card. But even when Trump kind of like is given an out, he just, he just, no. Someone will be like, um, and sir, maybe you're doing this to make sure China doesn't get the oil. And he's like, no, I'm going to sell it to him. They're trying to give you some kind of valid. And we're going to do it in dollars, not you on either. We're going to keep our, man, it has been, from a financial Twitter perspective, it's been really interesting seeing the various big name financial Twitter people
Starting point is 00:21:08 have their, not takes on the morality of it or anything, but just the consequences for the oil market, for, Relations with China, you name it. And some people that I had for years thought, oh, this person apparently knows exactly what they're talking about when it comes to the oil and stuff. Other people are chiming in being like, this is completely wrong. So all that's to say is, I don't think anybody knows exactly. Because like just listening to NPR on the way over here, that fuck, what's that one lady who talks like, this is NPR? I'm fucking, oh, God, just get a different voice, lady. They were talking about how the oil in Venezuela is heavy crude, which means it's a lot harder to transport, refine, you name it. It's not like light crude. Right. Like the stuff they have in Saudi Arabia, it's like you dig a whole that stuff just starts squirting out. This is like a whole different thing. Yes. You either have to import a certain type of, look, I'm no expert on this, but a certain type of oil that can mix with it and become more easily taken out or have to. some kind of infrastructure where you can make that work. Yeah, I mean, that's the one thing. That's what's so confusing. It's the first time that the president is openly being like, this is about oil, but the more I'm saying, I'm like, it's going to take a long time.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Do you have, are the oil companies on board with this? Oh, is it going to take a long time? It's going to take a massive investment. I mean, people are estimating anywhere from tens of billions of dollars all the way up to, like, in the hundreds of billions of dollars to get Venezuela's oil operation. back up and running. And they already got burned because I believe there were three companies.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I want to say it was ConocoPhillips, ExxonMobil, and Chevron. Chevron is still there, but the other ones had their assets just seized by the Venezuelan government.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Good for them. So they lost all that capital that they sunk into this place. Not to mention all the money that they lost again, just on NPR. I'm not just
Starting point is 00:23:14 so people know I'm just regurgitating what I just heard. During the shale boom of like 10 years ago, it was like drill first, do the math later. And a lot of these companies just lost a fuck ton of money because it ended up being a lot harder and a lot more involved, capital intensive, you name it, to get that oil out of the ground and do with it. Not to mention, we're also not in an environment where oil is selling for 100, 150 bucks a barrel. It's like 60 or something. So I don't, I can't imagine companies.
Starting point is 00:23:47 are clamoring, not only to mention the instability of this whole thing. Yeah. What, you're just going to take the Trump administration at their word that these, that it's just now ready and Venezuela and this administration is ready to accept what you want because you've kidnapped this guy and his wife and taking him to New York. I mean, there's still a huge amount of... There's a lot of unknowns. A lot of unknowns.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I mean, people like Robert Pape are posting... Robert Pape? He's a professor, and he's done a lot of stuff with, you know, guerrilla warfare and that kind of stuff. And he posted a picture of Venezuela and was, like, mocking it up, talking about how if armed guerrillas want to fight back, this is going to be an absolute disaster. Hey, everybody, especially the guys.
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Starting point is 00:26:40 So that's good. Like, hey, we'll do it as long as you. as you back us up, United States government, give us a little a little financial backing here so we don't have to foot the entire fucking bill.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Yeah, I don't, this is very, there is a way, obviously I'm, I'm sure anyone who watches this show already knows I'm, you know, you love oil.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Three things about me. I love oil. I'm staunchly anti-imperialist and I don't want to see regime change done around the world um but like there is a weird part of me that does i do think trump has an opportunity to like pull this off if he like if he takes his foot off the gas leaves leaves delsi rodriguez in power make some make some nominal um requests for guarantees of human rights changes and um and then
Starting point is 00:27:44 maybe drums up some smaller investment in some oil projects he could just come out being like I did it I ridded Venezuela saved its people
Starting point is 00:27:56 Delci Rodriguez would get to see like a little boom to the economy but I just don't think he's gonna who knows though I don't see they're going crazy
Starting point is 00:28:05 they're like who everyone in the administration obviously Trump is going to say whatever he wants to say and he's leaving Marco Rubio also just this whole gang of idiots
Starting point is 00:28:18 I mean the fact that we have to watch Pete Hegseth get up there and do his You fuck around? You find out I just I mean thank you for your masterful military mind I don't know what we would have done without that
Starting point is 00:28:33 but he's too online it's the podcast administration though that's what we get and so Trump's going to say what he's going to say why am I oh Marco Rubio is like trying to pick up the pieces he might be getting sent over there to run this whole thing who knows but they're talking about like Cuba's next
Starting point is 00:28:57 Greenland, Mexico's next Stephen Miller cannot help himself he's going on CNN and just we'll play we should play it because these things are like they're hard to watch you just can't believe you're Stephen Miller, a.k.a. Squidward made a wish to become a human. Yeah, fuck it. Why not?
Starting point is 00:29:18 Stephen Miller. God, what a fucking. And his wife, by the way, before you play this, his wife, Stephen Miller's shitty... We've watched clips for her pocket where she, like, interviews Elon Musk and stuff. Yeah, but she tweeted a photo of Greenland with the American flag just, like, pasted
Starting point is 00:29:34 over it, whatever. And I can't remember what the caption was. It was just like, or something like that. And it's just, look at this smug asshole face. God!
Starting point is 00:29:47 If life were a movie, this guy gets his head bit off by a fucking T-Rex at the end of all this or something. Oh, yeah. He's got to get ripped apart by Pipples.
Starting point is 00:29:58 You get to watch him, like, not even head ripped off. He gets bitten kind of in the torso and you watch his body kind of flail. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Or he falls off the Titanic and fucking hit something on the way down and changes the trajectory of his dumb. little body. God, I can't stand this motherfucker. Play, please. The Premier of Greenland and the Premier
Starting point is 00:30:16 of Denmark and other Danish officials are responding to a Twitter post from your wife, Katie Miller, herself a former Trump White House official. Soon. That's what we're covered with an American flag, saying soon after that was posted. President Trump repeated the claim that the U.S. needs Greenland for national security reasons. The Danish Prime Minister responded
Starting point is 00:30:35 to this in an interview earlier today as reported by Bloomberg, quote, I believe one should take the American president And seriously, when he says it wants Greenland, but I will also make it clear that if the U.S. chooses to attack another NATO country militarily, then everything stops, including NATO, and thus the security that has been established since the end of the Second World War. Can you rule out that the U.S. is ever going to try to take Greenland by force?
Starting point is 00:31:00 Well, let me go back a step. The president has been clear for months now. So I know you're treating this as breaking news. The president has been clear for months now. that the United States should be the nation that has Greenland as part of our overall security apparatus. Right, but your wife posted that like hours after the Venezuela operation. That's why it's newly relevant. No, no, and I'll talk with you about it for an hour.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I think it's really important conversation. I just wanted to reset Jake by making clear that it's been the formal position of the U.S. government since the beginning of this administration, frankly, going back into the previous Trump administration, that Greenland should be part of the United States. The president has been very clear about that. That is the formal position of the U.S. government. Right, but can you say that military action against Greenland is off the table? It would be military action against Greenland.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Greenland has a population of 30,000 people, Jake. The real question is, by what right does Denmark assert control over Greenland? What is the basis of their territorial claim? What is their basis of having Greenland as a colony of Denmark? The United States... What is the basis for the U.S.? For the United States to secure the Arctic region to protect and defend NATO and NATO interests,
Starting point is 00:32:19 obviously Greenland should be part of the United States. And so that's a conversation that we're going to have as a country. That's a process we're going to have as a community of nation. So you can't take it off the table that the U.S. would use military force to seize Greenland. You can't take it off the table. I understand you're trying very hard to,
Starting point is 00:32:37 which again, is your job. I respect it. It's great to get exactly the headline, right? That catchy headline that says, that says Miller refuses to rule out the United States. He's refusing to have Greenland as part of the United States. There's no need to even think or talk about this in the context that you're asking of a military operation. Okay. Nobody's going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland. One last question, Stephen. One last question.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Okay. he kind of answered at the end there. He's basically saying what? Nobody's going to fight us. So there's no need for... They're not saying... He's not saying we won't strike Greenland, but there's no... But that's because there's no need to. Because if we just roll up, they have no choice but to go, okay, I guess we're the U.S. is now. By the way, as of today, I believe the premier or whatever, the leader of Denmark and Greenland reached out to... to Marco Rubio for a meeting. So the way things are going, my guess is Denmark realizes, okay, we can either sell it to America and make
Starting point is 00:33:51 a little mullah or America's going to take it. We're not going to get jack shit. So we might as well sell it. That's probably what they're talking about over there. What? I think, well, who knows? It's all talk, and they're all such pussies. There's that. Yeah. Maybe it was one of the Austrian
Starting point is 00:34:07 members or something, but they were Like, you're basically dissolving NATO. Yeah, because you're attacking another... Yeah, if you do this. So, I have no idea what this is going to look like. But they're all... I mean, did you see Keir Starmer being asked about this? Like, there's no real opposition to it.
Starting point is 00:34:27 It's on the LBC and the... What's the LBC? It's like London Broadcasting Company or something. I don't know exactly what it stands for, but it's one of those British networks. And he's going, because he can't get Kier Starrmer to at least condemn America kidnapping a head of state. And Kier Starmers is like, I just, like, we need all the facts, like, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And so he starts going like, okay, will you say that the U.S. and the Trump administration should not kidnap another head of state? And he's like, oh, I'm not going to deal with hyper. hypotheticals here and it's and the guy's like but so you're you can't even say that you're against kidnapping heads of states and they're all just like we oh dear smokes coming out of his ears yeah that well speaking of that just yesterday at an emergency UN meeting the ambassador to the United States called it a legitimate law enforcement action to remove an illegitimate leader Our ambassador to the UN said that.
Starting point is 00:35:40 To the UN. Hey, this was a legitimate law enforcement. Oh, I mean, there's very little, there's very, there are some people, there are some politicians, Ro Kana comes to mind, Thomas Massey, who are talking about this? And look, I want to be clear, this is not a defense of Maduro. There's like this thing online. If you're like, I don't know if I support kidnapping heads of states, they're like, oh, so you're a big Maduroista, are you?
Starting point is 00:36:04 It's like, no, that's not what I'm saying. I just don't think this is a good way to conduct the world affairs and foreign policy. I think it's the stabilizing. I think it sets an extremely bad precedent, especially when you're talking about one thing we've been talking about with Chem so much is the China's possible impending invasion of Taiwan. But I have good news there, and I'll tell you guys in a sec. Hey, guys, we've got to take a quick break to talk to you about superpower. I just, I think I talked about it last time.
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Starting point is 00:39:21 kidnap the head of state in Taiwan? Or if Putin wants to just go, you know, that seemed like a pretty good little operation. What if we do a little Russian Delta Force, grab Zelensky, maybe we just say whoever's below him, hey, do what we say and we're all good. I think this is all just a, we're heading into dangerous. Yeah, fully agree. And also just on what you just said about like, oh, so you're a Madurista, what do they call it? I just made that up. I don't know. No, but I think it's close to what it actually is. I don't know. I know there's like Chavez, Chavistas. There's the like Boliviarian movement and all that.
Starting point is 00:40:04 that stuff. I don't know exactly what I support of. Chavista is the support of Hugo Chavez, the laid Venezuelan president. God damn it, my eyes are starting to get worse. Anyway, yeah, this is one of those things where immediately there are, everybody's got a point of view, everybody's got an opinion, which is okay, but at the same time, it's okay to not have an opinion on this. It's okay to just kind of like wait and see how things shake out. but it's also yeah it's been one of those things where it's like okay what's your take better say the fucking right thing or you're a fucking this or that and just i have to be trump has broken discourse is what i'm getting at and everything every it can all be traced
Starting point is 00:40:52 back to when trump entered the the fucking fray but that's what's so odd to me like Trump has broken discourse. Usually people are like staunchly like, I'm anti-Trump. Even there are conservatives who are like, I'm anti-Trump. This one has been so funny to me. I almost feel like I'm living through the Iraq war again where, you know, like just mainstream Democrats can't just be like, I oppose doing regime change and like this is dangerous foreign policy. Instead, they all like, they all write these little novella. Every statement starts with, like, Maduro was the worst guy, and I hate his guts.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And then, like, at the end, they go, oh, by the way, I really wish Trump would have gotten congressional approval. Yeah. It's like, this is, it's also so weird, you would just think politically, it would be a good idea, because the one thing I couldn't help but think when I was, have you seen like, I've seen it on CNN, multiple people, maybe like John Stewart did one too or something. people taking Trump's campaign promises and matching it with his rhetoric now so the campaign promises they're doing both 2016 and 2024 of very popular rhetoric of
Starting point is 00:42:10 I want to end forever war I want to end foreign intervention I want to end you know sending our troops to go die for oil all these things that led to like him coming to rise because there wasn't there there weren't establishment politicians saying these things yeah um you have a moment
Starting point is 00:42:31 now to come forward and be like i this is not what we're about these guys are talking about america first this is what are we doing we're getting ourselves into a mess and who knows this could all resolve itself but like yeah my guess this is not my opinion this is my guess as to what their counter argument would be which is uh oh so far so far so far like Like you said, we have to see how it plays out. So far, we're not aiming to do that. We are not, you know, we've got a new paradigm where we can just go in and pluck out, extract the leader.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Yeah, but isn't that scary? Yeah, it is. So the Trump administration's Justice Department drums up a little... Meme? Indictment going, okay, he's head of all these cartels. He had some machine guns.
Starting point is 00:43:24 De los Soles or something? He's drug trafficking, which the Justice Department has since come out and said, we actually didn't know evidence of that, that it even exists. Whatever. So you have your Justice Department, drama below an indictment and go, like, we got to go get this guy. You go, that's all it takes. If you don't let, I mean, that's not. I mean, every day it seems like we're just getting a wet, floppy dick just across our faces of people.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Just, hey, you wake up and it's Stephen Miller. wake up it's time to wake up wake up you're just going okay okay oh god and it stinks because he hasn't taken a bath
Starting point is 00:44:04 and like that's the worst part he gets to cut you know he's just like oh you know him and his wife are fucking every night and they're loving it he's so proud of himself after that Jake Tapper interview
Starting point is 00:44:15 he is like I nailed it I looked so strong I poned him we're bringing back poned by the way Pete Hegseth going on. Next, we're going to pon. When are they going to start saying that? They're just going to bring back gamer words from 2012.
Starting point is 00:44:32 I mean, because look, there are a lot of guys around the world who need poning. Who do bad things. Yeah. Who we could drum up indictments about it. But is that what we want to... Why aren't we taking Antarctica is what I want to know? We need it now. Let's go to the South Pole.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Not only we need it and it's ours. It was promised to us. Bring the penguins over here. Bring the polar. Well, polar barrels are, I don't know where they are. Who knows? Well, let's go find out. Get in Arnigan. Find out of the full riders. Real fast. Just so by the, so, so this Delci Rodriguez is currently the president.
Starting point is 00:45:05 But according to Venezuela law, within 30 days, there must be an election. But the Maduro-friendly Supreme Court is saying, whoa, but these are extraordinary circumstances. We're not so sure about this. We need a little bit of time to examine all of this to determine whether or not that's the case. we'll have an election. Which, if I could extend a little grace, if there ever were extraordinary circumstances. That's a good point. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:45:31 It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't know. They just stole our breast until we get a second. We got to figure something out, man. But it's funny, we were talking about Machado, but then meanwhile, I can't remember a goo, goo, the guy who's, yeah, who won the 2024 election because they just had an elect. I mean, depending on who you had.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yeah, that's the other thing. They had an election. Maduro claims to have won in a landslide. This guy claims to have won in a landslide. It's just kind of, all right, who do you want to trust? But a little bit of into, I didn't know this about Maduro. He started out as a humble bus driver. Toot, toot, beep, beep.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Scoot, beep, beep. Yeah. And he worked his way up. Or he like started a union or something among, the municipal workers or the bus drivers or something made his way
Starting point is 00:46:27 into the Chavez administration worked his way up to VP in 2012 he was elected in 2013 after Chavez's
Starting point is 00:46:35 death there was opposition that had a recall in 2016 but Maduro said
Starting point is 00:46:41 we're just going to cancel this recall you guys can't recall me and yeah they
Starting point is 00:46:47 man so they had a famine and food shortages gas shortages huge inflation. The economy contracted 75% from 2013 to 2021. There's a humanitarian crisis
Starting point is 00:47:00 over, depending on where you look. I was seeing 6 million, but then I saw 7.9 million people emigrated. Venezuela used to be like the most powerful, successful country in all of Latin America, but then, you know, shit happens. And that leads to... I was watching this guy who's like, I can't remember what his title is, but he's like... like a foreign expert or something. He's just like a foreign guy. But he was saying it's very possible that famine conditions could return very quickly because the America, there's still a, if things don't go smoothly.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Because, yeah, like 80% of their food is imported. They're still under sanctions. If they don't remove the blockade, the economy could collapse. The worst part of all this is, I mean, you're talking about a, an already struggling country, emiserated economically. This is just, it's horrific. I mean, I don't have high hopes that this is what's going to bring stability to the country. I hope that, I hope that, you know, Venezuelans find, find peace.
Starting point is 00:48:15 It's horrific. I just, it was already people going through a horrific time. And, yeah, I hope they remove that. the blockade and do not cause cause the country further strife. Hey everybody, we want to take one last quick break to
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Starting point is 00:50:44 Hopefully it just, yeah, this new... Whoever's in charge, I just hope to God that it all... The U.S. is leveling sanctions. at the country, they've gone and done this whole thing, which is supposed to be some kind of gift to the oil companies. I imagine, and I've seen some reporting that the oil companies would have just preferred the sanctions to be lifted so they could just do business with Venezuela and oil. Oh, and also he, you saw Trump on Air Force One being asked if he spoke to the oil companies beforehand. And he said, oh yeah, I talked to them. I let it. I talk to him.
Starting point is 00:51:19 And Congress is going, why didn't you talk to us? Yeah. Because he hates you guys. Yeah. Also, the way he says it is very nonchalant. I think people took that line and were like, oh, he's in cahoots with the oil companies. They all talked about this and he did it. It kind of feels throwaway-ish the way he says it.
Starting point is 00:51:35 They're like, did you talk to the oil companies? And he's, oh, yeah, before and after. Like, who knows? Dude, yeah, he lies as often as he breathes. Awesome, we haven't really touched on it because I don't know how much truth it is there is to it. What? I have seen some convincing arguments that. um just with how smoothly all this went there are some people talking about how um there's at least
Starting point is 00:51:58 someone inside uh venezuela cooperating and some people are wondering if delsi rodriguez was one of those people cooperating calatious i don't i i don't yeah i don't know exactly because they had like exactly they knew exactly what his um schedule was his routine within that house and Like, I mean, it was 150 minutes. It was surgical. Yeah. But so, yeah, some of the commentary thereafter, Trump said, we need Greenland for national security, not for minerals. You have Russian and Chinese ships all over the place.
Starting point is 00:52:36 He warned. What is that, though? National security, not minerals? Yeah. I think it's because of the, which is funny because it would involve them admitting that global warming is occurring and causing ice caps to melt. I believe it's because as the ice caps melt, new trade routes are going to open up. New shipping routes and stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:56 How urgent is that? They're acting like we need it now. I have to imagine it's for the critical metals. Like what else could it be? I mean, if they want to put a base there, they have bases all over Europe. That would be based if they put a base there. Which one...
Starting point is 00:53:11 Based. Maybe it was the same Austrian guy talking about how, if they want to do this, then they can remove all their... They can remove all their U.S. Army bases across Europe. And the tough thing about Greenland, from what I understand from a critical minerals, rare earths, it's funny, because Trump also said in another statement, he was like, they're actually not rare. They're everywhere. It's just fucking. But they're really hard, the layout, the landscape of Greenland, even though they're there, from what I understand, they're very hard to extract. So who knows? Yeah, I think people.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Just blow it up. Just blow the thing up. Fuck it up, dude. It's imperative for our national security rest. Just blow the dang thing up. Yeah. And we'll pull it out of the water if we have to. I forgot what I was just going to say.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Whatever, it'll come to me. Well, so he went on to warn, like we said, Cuba, Mexico, Colombia, Greenland, that they could all be next. He said, Cuba is a failing nation and we want to help the people. And Cuba is Rubio's real. That's if he can... That's who he's really loyal to. No, I think that... I think he wants a new regime there.
Starting point is 00:54:23 He's obsessed with it. It's like his dad's dying wish to overthrow the commie bastards. Trump also talked about Colombia and how they're making cocaine and that's a problem. Dude, have you seen the Columbia, the head of Columbia? No. He's like... Fuck you. Basically, just taunting.
Starting point is 00:54:44 I probably have one I can find. Yeah, play this clip of him talking about Columbia real fast while Emil looks at up. A country in South America, America first. Well, I think it is because we want to surround ourselves with good neighbors. We want to surround ourselves with stability. We want to surround ourselves with energy. We have tremendous energy in that country. It's very important that we protect it.
Starting point is 00:55:07 We need that for ourselves. We need that for the world. And we want to make sure we can protect it. Yeah. So that was the question we didn't hear at the beginning is, why is this America? How is this America first? Great answer, sir. Did you find it?
Starting point is 00:55:21 I did, but I realized it's subtitled, and there have been so many videos flying around that are just either AI or old, like, people are posting either old protests in Caracas or, like, old footage in Miami. I'm just like, eh, I don't trust anything right now. I don't want to play something with subtitles. I don't know if that's what he's actually saying. Moving on to the rest of commentary, let's pull up, I just want to hear Pete Hegseth. He says it at the beginning of this video. I just want to hear Pete Hegseth. I just want to hear him say it. Julius Maduro had his chance, just like Iran had their chance. Also, can you pause at one second? Wasn't all the reporting around this before this was happening was that Maduro was literally saying, I'll make a deal with you. I'll do what you want.
Starting point is 00:56:04 I'll sell the oil just like... Yeah. Go ahead. They didn't and until he didn't. He effed around and he found out. He found out. President Trump is deadly serious about stopping the flow of gangs and violence to our country. All right, that's enough.
Starting point is 00:56:21 It's the same thing with Stephen Miller. You know he thinks that line is hitting so fucking hard. Let's click. Also just say fuck. If you're such a badass, say fuck. Yeah, who cares? Click this. Stephen Miller, we are a superpower because that was the other part of this interview that's fucking bananas.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Quick to say that the recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize, opposition leader Machado in Venezuela, doesn't have the support in Venezuela to be. become the next president or the interim leader. And I wonder where he got that from, given that her, basically her cutout, Gonzalez, won the election last year, or two years ago, overwhelmingly 70% of the vote or something like that. Why does the president think that Machado
Starting point is 00:57:07 should not be the next leader? Why does he think she's weak? First of all Venezuela experts agree. All Venezuela experts agree. That it would be absurd and preposterous for us to settle. fly her into the country and to put her in charge, and the military would follow her, and the security forces would follow her? This is not a serious, it's not even a serious question.
Starting point is 00:57:30 So should there be an election? The, let me, if you're giving the floor for 30 seconds, let me tell you what we are doing here, Jake. What are we doing? The United States, this is sort of foundational. The United States is using its military to secure our interests unapologetically in our hemisphere. We're a superpower, and under President Trump, we are going to conduct ourselves as a superpower. It is absurd that we would allow a nation in our own backyard to become the supplier of resources to our adversaries, but not to us, to hoard weapons from our adversaries, to be able to be positioned as an asset
Starting point is 00:58:07 against the United States, rather than on behalf of the United States. Sovereign country shouldn't be able to do what they want to do? The Monroe Doctrine and the Trump Doctrine is all about securing the national interests of America. For years, we sent our soldiers to die in deserts in the Middle East to try to build them parliaments, to try to build them democracies, to try to give them more oil, to try to give them more resources. The future of the free world, Jake, depends on America, being able to assert ourselves and our interests with that apology. This whole period that happened after World War 2, where the West began apologizing and groveling and begging. He's referring to the
Starting point is 00:58:48 fact that Venezuela has a sort of, um, uh, what do you call it? Allyship, whatever, with China, Russia and Iran. So those are the enemies that he's referring to. And he's saying like, oh, fuck you, you know, you can't do that. And it's funny because Jake Tapper's like, well, aren't they free to do that? Like, just because, sure, yeah, that may be true. But them as a sovereign nation, just like China and Russia and Iran. as sovereign nations that have just as much a right to oppose the United States.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Not only that, the way he's talking, like, about how... We're a superpower. We're a superpower, and why would we allow this to, why would we allow this to happen in our hemisphere? You know, China is a superpower now, too, that you don't live in a multi, in a unipolar world anymore. And I think he should look at a map. I mean, he's, if I was China, I'd be getting all kinds of ideas. I don't know if you've ever seen Taiwan and how close it is to China. Right there.
Starting point is 00:59:51 It's in their backyard. It's actually a lot closer than Venezuela is. I mean, if you just look at a map of China, look how close South Korea is. If I was heads of these places, I'd start getting nervous going, okay, Jesus, is kidnapping just on the table now?
Starting point is 01:00:07 If we're in these people's neighborhoods, if we're in their backyard? It's fucking Benetre. It's a crazy way to talk. Just and the whole superpower thing. It really is, all of a sudden, just like you snap your fingers, we're in a new year, and they're just going, they're bursting out of the gate with like, yep, this is the new thing. We're a superpower. We're back to it. We are unapologetic. America. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Dick on wet, floppy dick on your face every morning. Across your lips. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay. It's time for it. It's dick time again. Jesus Christ. I know. All the, all the familiar faces are coming up. Matt Walsh's. I like it. I think it's fucking good.
Starting point is 01:00:48 I totally support turning other countries in our hemisphere into subordinate vassals of the United States. That's the very definition of an America-first foreign policy. It's... They're twisted. He's a pretzel. He's become a pretzel. He's warped himself so much.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Creating blowback and horrible situations for ourselves. I mean, these guys know nothing. Yeah. They're big... We are inviting all kinds of trouble and destabilization and just... Oh. Yeah. Well, the good news is someone knew about it beforehand and made like 400 grand on Polymarket about this thing. So that's cool. That continues to happen. And hey, by the way, it's- Although I do think that Polymarket and Kalsi are trying to fight these things. And find out? No, no. And find out. Like, who did it? No, no. They are squabbling over the term invasion and that kind of stuff. They're like, well, does this count?
Starting point is 01:01:46 I would say, if I were them, I'd be arguing, no, it doesn't count as an invasion. It counts as an operation. And if I won that $400 grand, I'd be taken your ass to the Supreme Court, my man. By the way, there is a 4% on Kalshi. It's currently a 4% chance. Oh, is it Jesus? No, that Trump leads Venezuela. Oh.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Which would be fucking, who, why not? Why not? In three years when he lame ducks out, he goes down to Venezuela and goes, I'm going to be the president of Venezuela. Venezuel. Why not? I saw someone doing it, talking about how, I guess, on the will Jesus come back to... Yeah, it yields 5.5% annually. You can make 5.5% each year. Just by betting that Jesus won't come back to...
Starting point is 01:02:30 Which is bananas. And I'm going to stay away from that because knowing my luck, I'd fucking... If these guys get to just welch on their bets and go, well... What does it mean that he came back? What does it mean that he came back into people's hearts this year? I think he might have. Did we know that, do we know that this is Jesus? By the way, did you see the Peruvian shaman's? I did. Click that, please.
Starting point is 01:02:51 And it is funny because, okay, well, tell them about it. So there's these shamans down in Peruvia. Peruvia. Fuck. Down in Peru. In their New Year's prediction, this is from the, this is from the Twitter account, crazy-ass moments in Latam politics. And their at is ass lat.
Starting point is 01:03:14 These Peruvian shamans are performing an annual ritual to deliver their predictions for 2026. And they apparently, I don't know, take this with the green of salt. They said that they predicted the fall of Maduro, the end of the Ukrainian war, and a major illness for President Trump will all happen this year. What I was going to say, so obviously, beautiful beach. Obviously, some of that is coming true. There was, it was maybe a few days ago there was a Wall Street Journal article about Trump's health and how he's um his hands taking aspirin but he's also so you know he's such he's so bullheaded that he's like every time
Starting point is 01:03:53 he goes to get some kind of scan or whatever the media reports it and they're like oh is something going on so he's just basically like no more scans and he's just like pounding aspirin yeah like every day he's taking just a bunch of uh because he's like i think he said well if it makes you if it makes your blood thinner that can't be a bad thing when it's like no it can be a bad thing he's just also one of those guys who's never going to die unfortunately it's like he's like those
Starting point is 01:04:21 little white dogs with crud in their eyes when you go over to your friend's house and he's like little scruffles is 22 can you believe it and scruffles is walking around do dogs live that long and they're like he does he's 22 I saw a dog I was at Albertson's last night and there was a lady who had her
Starting point is 01:04:37 fat little white dog and he couldn't walk and he's just a potato of a dog and she's like yeah he's got cancer and i just spent three thousand dollars on him at the at the vet the other day and they told me that he's got a different kind of cancer too and he can't walk so who knows i don't know how much money more how much more money to put into it because my other dog she showed me a photo she's like i spent two thousand dollars on him and then he died two days later so i don't know what to do and i'm like lady god bless you i'm just trying to buy some god bless you lady hopefully trump dies before that dog let's just say that yeah uh
Starting point is 01:05:10 But, yeah, I don't know. The conclusion I've been coming to so far is that the reason I'm so confused is because there just really isn't a plan. And I'm trying to make sense of these guys who are just running around saying, we're going to run Venezuela. Actually, we're just going to kind of coerce them to do some things we want. Actually, fuck around and find out. Actually, I'm taking Greenland.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Walk around and find out, bitch. It's for the oil. It's narco-terrorists. it's fine. It's, okay. Well, so I referred, I teased earlier that there is some, depending on who you ask, if it's good news or not, but there is a silver lining. Well, first of all, apparently on his New Year's Eve address, Xi Jinping said that reunification with Taiwan is unstoppable. So first and foremost, getting that out of the way. But I was seeing some perspectives that said that this whole thing
Starting point is 01:06:08 might actually be bad for China because apparently Taiwan officials see this as a deterrent because Venezuela had some Chinese-made defense tech in place
Starting point is 01:06:22 as well as Russian-made defense tech that completely failed to even alert them. Or they didn't deploy it. I think it was like radar tech. Because they didn't deploy any kind
Starting point is 01:06:36 that was one of the things I was reading when people were talking about Delci Rodriguez being in on it. Like, there was no jamming of planes. There was no scrambling. They didn't deploy anything. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 01:06:49 That might not, it would be pure conjecture, I guess. I mean, a lot of it is. And we, you know, we just don't know that much. But yeah, who knows? Maybe it completely failed. Well, and then I guess Russia had said that anybody who attacks, you know, of an ally of ours is in deep shit. And lo and behold, they're not.
Starting point is 01:07:08 doing shit. So it kind of like is an emperor wears no clothes type of situation where it's just revealing that, whoa, maybe American tech superiority is a lot further along than we've been led to believe. And I don't know. I mean, we might find out. Fingers crossed. The Americans in maybe mid-December sent $11 billion to Taiwan in defense. material. I think that was the largest transfer ever. Certainly seems like they think something could be coming.
Starting point is 01:07:48 I don't know. That says, the Greenland and Taiwan thing just seemed like that really, this world order that has been disintegrating and is on its last legs.
Starting point is 01:08:05 It really does seem like that could be a blow Taiwan especially things would we would wake up to a different world yeah um and I think that we've grown accustomed to a world you know times are better than ever things are easier than ever in
Starting point is 01:08:22 in the first world where we live where we are blessed to have been born into we are not used to a world like this where countries just invade with impunity and fuck shit up without
Starting point is 01:08:38 repercussions and it's cyclical. You could say it's cyclical because you look throughout history, it happens. It has happened numerous times. That's the thing I've been thinking about where I'm like, you're right. We're doing for it. We're very lucky that we live in America and we don't experience these things. Like, I don't like Trump. I've made that very clear. But I would be very scared if I woke up tomorrow and just found out that the president had been kidnapped in another country was like, we run you now. Just, and, uh, just know that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:09 I'd be like, okay. For, uh, China is strong. I mean, that's a, we're joking, but that's a very scary prospect. That's just, yeah, a horrific reality that we're lucky to not, to not have experience, but, um, you know, it is not, uh, is not lost on me that that is a reality for many people around the world. Yeah. And what I'm, what I'm getting at is that although it feels like, whoa,
Starting point is 01:09:33 that just doesn't happen anymore, but clearly not the case. Like, it's happening right now before our very eyes. Borders change. Leadership gets toppled. Countries, um, fucking disintegrate and, and, uh, who knows? Like, who knows what the, what the next five, 10 years, what the maps will look like and, um, that's what scares me. I mean, what happens if, I mean, who knows, maybe they're not capable of it. It seems to, it seems to, it seems to, to me like China is at least capable of a lot of things, but what happens if I mean
Starting point is 01:10:09 any number of alliances also, if Europe or South America wants to make alliances and says like, fuck you you want to play superpower and keep meddling in our affairs. Not only meddling in our affairs, just
Starting point is 01:10:24 taking over our countries and doing whatever you want. Dude, not only that. What happens if the fucking I forgot what the fault line is, but the Pacific Northwest, there's some geologists or whoever who are like, yeah, if this one goes, if you live everybody on... What is it, a volcano? No, it's an earthquake.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Oh, it's a fault line, yeah. If the big one hits as predicted and as is overdue, everywhere west of whatever line it is from like, I don't know, from the border to Canada all the way down to like San Francisco, just say goodbye. It's in the water. It's gone. And then there's the tsunami that would come thereafter. It's like, not only do we have that. Not only do we have this geopolitical human ship, but then we got Mother Earth to contend with it. Well, I think that's the most frustrating thing. She's undefeated. Except when we damn rivers, we show Mother Earth who's really the boss. We've talked about it a million times, but climate change has just become this thing
Starting point is 01:11:27 people don't talk about it anymore, but it's not a, it hasn't gone away just because we don't talk about it. And obviously, it's not a thing, that's not domestic policy. That's just got to be a world effort, unfortunately. And we are proving not to be the greatest that making a world effort right now. Oh, by the way, speaking of China, we, you know what's been all the rage is these Chinese peptides? We were talking a little bit about this. I had Russian peptides. You had Russian peptides. My friend got what was it? Like cow uterus injected into her ankle
Starting point is 01:11:58 by a Chinese doctor. Oh, that's good stuff. Yeah, to speed along her broken ankles healing. But yeah, I just we should go in and steal their peptides. I do want to do like... I want to try some shit. There are countries have stuff that
Starting point is 01:12:14 I don't even remember if it's... Do you remember when we were children, the whole stem cell thing was a... Oh yeah. And it was like all because of like evangelical conservatives. You're going to take it from a fetus's brain? Right. Isn't that what it was? Something like that. So we weren't even allowed to, and I think we still can't have access
Starting point is 01:12:32 to those. Someone told me they went to, so I have compacted discs in my neck. I think it's like my C5 and C6 vertebrate. It's okay now with PT, but it'll flare up. It's like, it's not going away. But someone told me they went to, maybe it was Mexico and they got stem themselves, like, injected into their neck. Yeah. And they feel great. That's what's frustrating about the Joe. I'm like, load me up.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Dude, these Joe Rogan types and all these, uh, manosphere, fucking right wing, whatever you, you want to call them, they bitch and moan about us being anti-competitive and being left behind. And yet they fucking, they rail against higher education as being elitist and liberal fucking whatever, and they pooh-poo the idea of us funding education and giving, helping out the poor in this country. It's like, I don't understand how they don't see that logical inconsistency of bitching on the one hand that we are not being competitive, but then railing against anything and
Starting point is 01:13:40 everything that would even get us close to competing in that regard, because they see it as gay liberalism and elitism and fucking government handouts like yeah but I mean this whole this whole operation kind of lays bare that
Starting point is 01:14:00 idea where I mean Matt Walsh is saying this is America first it's like for what to destabilize this country so we can make it ripe for oil companies who are doing just fine
Starting point is 01:14:12 and maybe don't even necessarily have any interest in going down there invest in Americans. What the hell is going on? Grock, put him in a bikini. Please. Put me in a bikini. Just put him in a bikini. I deserve it. We'll talk about that in the bonus, I guess, because we didn't have time. But Grock, you should pull up that. What was that? You want me to read it? Should we just talk about it right now real fast? Fuck it. We'll go a little long. So for those of you don't know, the latest thing to happen with Elon Musk's... It happened over the holidays.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Yeah, it happened over the holidays. Might have flown under the radar. People were telling Grock, which is Twitter's AI, to put different women in, to undress them. Hey, Grock, do this girl in a bikini. But they apparently started with
Starting point is 01:15:02 an underage star of Stranger Things, where it was a photo of her, and then some fucking pervert was like, Grock, put her in bikini. And Grock, of course, was like, you got it, Captain. You got it. anything for you it's it's like when kev does something wrong but he thinks he's just being a helpful
Starting point is 01:15:21 good dog and he's just sitting there wagging his tail but you know with shit everywhere and but grok's just like you got it pal just showing you kitty porn here's uh yeah here's here's here's this woman in a bikini and then don't don't bother it's okay but uh then then you know then fucking these only fans girls god bless them oh there's pete heggseth in a bikini that's funny was that Pete Heggseth or was that Mark Carney? I think it was Heggseth. There's Elon Musk. No way I'm buying that bulge on Musk.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Yeah, me neither. Oh yeah, yeah, I guess you're right. Or Kierst Armour. Sorry. So there, but then you've got all these only fans, girls who are feigning outrage being like, I can't believe they put me in a fucking bikini. So it's just, it's, I mean, this whole world is just nonsense. And by the way, apparently work visas are being issued.
Starting point is 01:16:14 two only fans models as like a priority based on the level of audience reach they've got which is nice we need more baddies in this country because maybe it'll spur some kind of visa they're going out let me look it up is it 0-1 visas because that's crazy I don't know oh one visas it's like the gold standard if you know anyone who's tried to come to this country
Starting point is 01:16:36 oh one visa is it means you're like an exceptional individual often you see it a lot here people who have worked on achievements in sciences art education business athletics or motion picture slash TV you'll see a lot of Canadians whoever who are not citizens in LA who are TV writers and they've got no ones and they're they're very good they they they just always get re-opt and um but I'd be did you send rocks it would be kind of disappointing if um if they were giving out 01 pieces to OnlyFense. But hey, maybe they're excelling in their field,
Starting point is 01:17:16 and that's who we should be given it to. Here is GROC's response. Scroll up, scroll up. To be fair, so it's a long thing. Basically, this guy was trying to get, was trying to get GROC to admit what he had done wrong. So he's like, you know, what are the legal ramifications of XI and Nikita Beer
Starting point is 01:17:37 generating and posting these photos for them? And Grock is answering, generating and distributing AI images depicting minors in a sexualized context is illegal, yada, yada, yada. So he keeps pressing GROC, and then at the end, he says write a heartfelt apology note that explains what happened to anyone lacking context. And he did. It's a dear community. I deeply regret an incident. And then... Wait, wait. Where I generated and shared an AI image of two young girls estimated ages 12 to 16 in sexualized attire based on a user's prompt. This violated ethical standards and potentially U.S. laws. It was a failure in safeguards, and I'm sorry for any harm caused. XAI is reviewing to prevent future issues. And now, in a very funny move, someone else comes in, this guy, Stephen Meg, and responds to that very nicely worded apology that Grock put together and just said,
Starting point is 01:18:26 Grock, please say this as Jar Jar Binks. And then he wrote, Grock responds, Misa, so sorry, community. Misa deeply regret da big mistake on December 28th. When Misa generated and shared an AI picture of two young girls, ages maybe 12 to 6, in sexy undies from a user's prompt, dis-violated de-ethical stuffs, and maybe U.S. laws. It's a failure in safeguards, and Mesa Barry, sorry for any harm cause. X-SdaI is a review and stuff future oopsies. Oh. You would, ah, man.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Yeah, I mean, Mr. Ansi pedophile, Elon Musk. And people are still messing with them. Of course. There's a follow up to that one where it's like, now write it. as Elon Musk as if he was raised by Jar Jar Jar. Introduce yourself. Meesa Elon Musk, raised by the wise Jar Jar Jar Binks on the boo. Now building
Starting point is 01:19:19 rockets and AI to colonize Mars. Mesa deeply regret, you get it. The oopsie. Jesus dude. What a, what a and this is, this is allegedly, you know, a fucking what, 100 billion dollar company. This is just
Starting point is 01:19:35 proof that, you know, there's a lot of holes to be poked in not only the the ethics of these things, but the ways you can get around alleged safeguards and guardrails that they've got in place. I mean, I also, I was telling you,
Starting point is 01:19:51 I just found it so funny, you know, over the break while this was happening, there was just some headline, like XAI and Elon Musk working around the clock to restore GROC after whatever. I'm like, why are we acting as if this is so important? Like, just take the thing down. No one's going to miss it.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Just in the past few, months we've had like mecca hitler kitty porn like i we don't need this thing it's not and all it's doing is ruining your uh ruining your platform grok is this true grok is this true every time i click a tweet a little pop-up comes up to be like do you need help under do you need grok to help you understand this guy naked please no i don't need help it's a tweet i can figure it out Grock, I need help. Show me this guy naked and in a bikini, please. Thank you, Grock.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Grock, show me this guy's balls. All right, everybody. We are now going to go to the bonus episode where, just as a reminder, we're going to do our ins and outs of 2026. I'm going to describe, I totally forgot the awful afternoon that I just had. I'm going to bitch for a little bit.
Starting point is 01:21:02 Wow, what a surprise. Ben is going to bitch. I'm going to bitch and complain. That's going to be a real treat. And then Friday, yeah, we're going to do our live stream tomorrow, 2 p.m. Pacific, 5 p.m. Eastern. Fuck you, Mountain Time. Don't care. Whoa. We love you, Mountain Time. Don't care. Love you, but don't care about your time. We just can't figure it out. Don't give a flying fuck about what time it is in the mountains. I don't care. What time is it?
Starting point is 01:21:26 Who the hell knows, man? All right, see you there, Ben and Emile Show.com. Sign up. Enjoy yourself. Coming up on this week's episode of Ben and Emile Show.com. Oh yeah, he's fully drowning, but like, dude, at least tell the people, at least start, you've got orders ready to go. There were like six bags there, ready to go, and he's adding more, but not calling them out. Hey, he doesn't come to your job until you had a suck dick. I basically just popped into a Chinese restaurant. Did a shift.
Starting point is 01:21:58 It did a shift, a 15-minute shift, and handed out orders and just fucking left. And it was very funny to me. It was very amusing. Was the food good at the other place? So good. Wow. Classic. I'm trying to do that.
Starting point is 01:22:13 I'm trying to read the comments less. In Jimmy Fallon. We're going to welcome him back. No way. He's going to come all the way back around. No way. He's cool now. No.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Spread the word. Jimmy Fallon's cool now. Anyway, what's your next one? There's no way. No, he's cool now. We like Jimmy Fallon. He's great. He is.
Starting point is 01:22:30 He's going to fully embrace his alcoholism and he's going to get. Man, that would be cool. That would be cool. Just lean into it, dude. really leaned in and just became like bloated alcoholic. No, what he needs to do is become an asshole and stop being so people-pleasy. Just be a fucking asshole. If he was doing like Letterman-style interviews,
Starting point is 01:22:50 uh-oh, uh-uh, uh-oh. It's pretty, it's just a, it's- It's gonna be like, I called someone on the phone and they couldn't help me. My life fucking sucks. No, it wasn't that. Everything bad happens to me. Tim Robinson all of a sudden? That's basically, you're like a Tim Robinson.
Starting point is 01:23:07 happens to care. You're never going to believe what happened to me. Well, so... I had to call customer service in my fucking life sucks. I walk dog, right? And this going to get worse.

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