The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 151: Can We Save Spirit Airlines?

Episode Date: May 7, 2026

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Everybody's miserable. Okay, spirit is shutting down. It is going to be bad for consumers. And now everyone is playing the blame game. Joe Biden give me butt-kater. This is just more of the mess. Joe Biden left me. There was also tons of predatory practices going on from other airlines, which I do find...

Oh, like that. Crazy and it's underreported. Disgusting test messages between each other? Delta texting spirit, like show me your boobs. Basically, the Big Four airlines were lobbying against the Trump administration's bailout of spirit because they hate spirit. By the way. Wait, before you do that, you had Delta, which absorbed northwest, United and Continental, Southwest and Airtran, and American and U.S. Airways. And now we just have these massive, you know, the big four.

Don't forget 9-11 airlines. Was that the by the way? They got absorbed by the, um, the twins. Was that the by the way? No, that wasn't the by the way. I was just looking for a joke. I can't do it by the pod. Now I'm too horny.

You got a, uh, you got something in your teeth. Man, this is a humiliating way to start the show. It's on, it's on the other side of your canine. You got to use your finger, man, not your tongue. There you go. You're on. Oh, you know what? I'm just not going to look at you.

I think you got it Let me see Yeah you got it What do you know folks What? Pepper corn Piece of bean Piece of bean

Hey gang We got a great episode For you today As we do every week But this week I'm all beaned up He's all beaned up I'm full of beans

And ready We're talking about The We're talking all about spirit Spirit Airlines. Can you feel the spirit? Take me up on the spirit in the sky. Get it? Norman Greenbaum. Yeah. It's going to go when I needed to fly. Do you think that's why they called it that?

I don't know. It's been around for 34 years. Was around for 34 years. Yeah, that song definitely predates spirit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Isn't it weird when you say 34 years? It's like, wow, they've been around since the 70s. Your brain is my brain is still stuck. I get it, but I don't do that. I feel like I feel like I've, broken the habit, but I do get it. And when we... But maybe not. Who knows? Maybe I'm still stuck in that. We're going to talk about what happened to Spirit Airlines. What's going to happen

next? Who's blaming who? And of course, this new fucking stupid Reddit campaign, or not Reddit, TikTok campaign. TikTok? TikTok. Campaign to buy it. TikTok? We're getting ready to buy it. We're going to buy it. TikTok. Spirit.

And they're all going like this. It's all P-O-V. TikTok. We're going to get ready to buy, man, I fucking hate when people do the POV thing on TikTok where they go like this with their hands. It looks like a natural gesture. I've never seen it.

Oh, it's everywhere. It's so pervasive. Anyway. How much time you spend it on TikTok? Not very much. I dick around on it when I'm in between trading in the morning. Dick around, okay. Yeah, yeah. You know, I dig around.

I see what's on there. And then we're going to talk about this incredible story. the J.P. Morgan's sexual assault case wherein this guy is really just too horny to live. Or I think he's just a flat out liar and he's been trying to get himself out of a... Out of some kind of pickle by just digging himself deeper.

Yeah. And folks, you're not going to want to miss this. I think he's just a prolific liar. Yeah. But it's a really beautiful... We'll get to it. It's a beautiful story. And we'll get into all the gorgeous deals

It's really, really, it's like soap opera type shit. So stay tuned for that. And then finally, we got to talk about how we got a new competitor. Amazon is breaking into the podcast business in a pretty unexpected way. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the Amazon podcast business is going to put us out of business. But first, since Superior Airlines isn't the only one to go out of business, we'd like to start this segment with In Memorium.

Maybe we can play some somber music right here. but ask jeeves also known as now ask.com I'll be honest what? It's all we ever want you to do Were you even aware that it was still around? I knew that ask was

But I didn't know what the hell it was Okay It was probably for grannies and moms I don't think I even knew it was around Oh I know what I'll do I'll go to ask.com Instead of asking Google I'll go to ask.com

They should have given a shout out to the people who were keeping this thing on life support. But it was one of the original search engines. Yeah, we can get a huge shout-up. Oh, this was, I remember being in my elementary school library and them showing us Askedgeef. Wow. And it was, it was incredible.

I remember searching all kinds of things. Ask. Ask.com was originally known as AskJv's. And apparently it wasn't a search engine. It was an answer engine. It was also an e-magiz. and it was operated by Ask Media Group, conceptualized and developed in 1996 by two dorks

named Garrett Gruner and David Wharton, based in Berkeley. Of course they were in Berkeley. Let's see. It was owned and operated by Interactive Corp, which acquired the Ask Media Group, blah, blah, blah. And yeah, it just closed. Yeah, that's the whole point.

Yeah, just closed. Let's go back to that page, the landing page, where it says, continues to sharpen its focus. We have made the decision to discontinue our search business, which includes ask.com after 30 years of answering

the world's questions. Well, it doesn't go that far. Yeah, I don't think that you fucking did that. Jeeves' spirit indoors. Oh my God, give me a break. 30 years. So 96, me just bopping away in the school library. What size bra is the biggest?

Jeeves is like, well, I'm glad you asked. That's actually not the kind of shit I was Googling. Yeah, it was. What do boobs taste like? It's all boob related. That was the kind of stuff. Should be askboobs.com. The way I was using that damn thing?

Yeah. Can you look up real fast, Connor? IAC.com. Do you remember just going straight up? Because there was no real like Google. There was no real hub. You remember just trying shit like boobs.com? Oh, yeah.

That's what you did. Click Our Brands. Oh, IAC. They bought college humor and all that stuff. Yeah, IAC. So for those unfamiliar, wow, they finally got rid of Ask. They own all recipes, better homes and gardens, brides, birdie, food and wine, health, in style, investopedia, people, people, and Espanol, people, ink, shape. It's just a bunch of, like, crap. They own something called Vivian.

I don't know if I'd call Southern Living Crap. I would, I would say that it's crap. Travel and leisure? Come on. Very well. The Spruce. What the fuck is this shit? They just buy crap brands.

They're the number one digital. print and print publisher in the U.S. home to 40 plus brands. More than 175 million people trust us each month to help them find inspiration. I doubt that. I think a good half of those people accidentally find themselves on your various websites.

Oh, and there's just like weird dentist's office who have closed and never, never canceled, and they just keep... They are a publicly traded company, valued at $2.8 billion. How are they doing on the ask.com news? Are they reeling? They tanked today, it looks like, on probably, I believe, earnings.

They're down 8.43%. Yeah. Yeah, look at that. Down 6% in the past five days. Won't someone think ofask.com? Yeah. So rest and peace to that in our first ever in Memorium segment. And what do you know?

Big thank you, Jeeves. I would have never known what boobs tasted like if it weren't for you. I would have never known that the bra goes all the way to freaking triple Z probably. Yeah. Can you imagine the size of those things? A triple Z? Yeah, it'd be like, whoa, where's your face?

How do you wipe your brick and butt? I don't think they go that big. Triple Z bra. Yeah, that's it right there. There it is, folks. There's someone who's into that fetish for sure. So, Emil, have you ever flown on Spirit Airlines? One time, and honestly, when this all happened,

It made me disappointed that I never did it. I only did it... You never did it more? Yeah, because I only did it when I was a... I would say I was maybe in high school and went on a trip with a family friend and we all went on spirit. And I remember being... This was probably like, I don't know, 2005 or something. Oh, so it probably was a little better back then.

I was going to say, I remember it being perfectly fine. Yeah. And reading all this stuff, I'm like, damn, I kind of wish I experienced it in the Atlanta. they did this whole article. I think it was called something like the only thing worse than Spirit Airlines is a world without Spirit Airlines because Give me a break.

Like these people were actually flying it. They're just trying to make them seem like people of the people. No, I don't think that's the truth. Me and you also lose it. Even if we never flew Spirit Airlines, we lose on this. Everyone loses on this.

They had a thing called the Spirit effect where it was as soon as they started flying a route, You started seeing... Prices drop. Price drop like 17 to 20%. As soon as they canceled the route, prices increased by like 35% or something. Whether they call that S&D.

Sucking and dickin. Supplying demand. Close. So, you know, they're not trying to be like, oh, like the working man, whatever. It's just we all get dicked on this. But it started off with some fun. like polling where they had one in 2014 where it was like would you rather fly on spirit or fly a

regular airline with uh but in the seat next to you is a bunch of snakes and like overwhelmingly people pick the snakes or whatever uh and i just i honestly didn't really know but it's like for literally everything you have to pay and i don't mean like nickel and dime man obviously the water or obviously the food, but it's like there's a fee for just booking online. There's a fee for if you want a printed boarding pass. There's a fee for, uh, and I was like, picking your seat obviously. Yeah, every, there's a fee for even just a carry on item. There's a fee for every little thing. Get the fuck. To the point where I'm like, at a certain point, when does this just become as expensive as a, uh, pretty quickly, I'm sure. Yeah. Um, what's next? They're going to charge for the

bathroom? They might. The Ryanair CEO is suggesting doing that. But, but, but, you're the Ryanair's CEO was suggesting doing that. But also, apparently the seats are quite uncomfortable. Smushed, hardly any cushion. So I'm just like, damn, I do wish I kind of saw the... Can you imagine? I had flown frontier. We've both flown frontier.

We did to Colorado. Oh, sure, yeah, yeah. It sucks shit. They didn't have their own terminals, so we had to like take a bus. Oh, sure. it was that from one terminal all the way it was just like oh yeah frontier you're in the way over in the internationals and its own little area where where they where we don't smell everybody your stink i will say it wasn't as wasn't that bad right it's not like it's not glamorous it's not glamorous

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I was also, I know that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but in this case, man, I hated their livery. That's the fancy word for the color of the airplane. So like here, can you Google Spirit Airlines? I thought they were like a nice green and white. Spirit Airlines old livery. Oh, you're talking to spirit, not frontier. I was like, Frontier's perfectly fine. Look at how stupid it used to look.

It was like this weird birthday cake. Look at that one. So the old one, the first one was this weird, like, modern computer-looking thing. Do you see that with the black and white? I think that's just one version. Yeah, but that was their original. That's what they used to look like. No, I think the original one is that one.

The birthday cake? No, no. If you scroll up a little bit right there on the left. I think that's the first one. Yeah, that very well could be the very first. Yeah, the McDonald's. Oh, okay. It's very classic. McDonald-Douglas.

Oh, and then they had that all-gray one. That one was kind of cool. But, yeah, and then the school bus, I mean, it just makes it. It's not in school bus. That's like full. Taxi. It just looks like shit to me. It makes me think, when I see that airplane, I think, I think struggle.

I think, oh, man, every flight they offer. is at 5 a.m. It's got two layovers. Everybody's miserable. It's crammed. You're fucking, you had to wake up at 3 a.m. just to get there.

Nobody's happy. Even the pilots in the... That's the real issue is the layover stuff. That was my other thing. Disgusting. When I took Frontier, I flew to L.A. from New York. This is when I was like,

yeah, I'll just take whatever the cheapest thing is. Huge layover. And so I just get it. wherever I am, Denver, Chicago, wherever, I get to the terminal so early and there's another Chicago to L.A. flight before mine. Yeah. And I was like...

They're that early. And they were talking about how their receipts on it. And I was like, oh, well, can I just get on this one? Yeah. They were like, no. I was like, no, fuck you actually. Sorry. I was like, but why? I'm basically going to sit here for like three hours. Yeah, but fuck you. So, you're, so you're, you're, like, no. I'm basically, just going to have to go sit down. And if you come up here again, I'll have you arrested, sir. Again, fuck you.

Brutal. Just to see a flight with seats. Thank you for flying with us, though. I remember back in the struggle days, I think it was 2012 or 2013. I was flying international with my friend. And just, you know, just to save a hundred bucks or whatever it was, we were like, oh, we'll just sleep in the airport. It'll be easy. It'll be enjoyable. But it's never worth saving a hundred bucks. The problem is when it's...

Because they're still... I'm still tempted. Especially with their international travel. It's called like... Who's international? It's called like French Bee or something, I think it's called. There's a new airline and there's another one like Nordic Air or something. Oh, French Bee.

And they'll offer these flights to France. I think you have to fly into Orly and not Charles the Gaul. Oh. But the one to Paris will be like $800,900, $900 to Paris. And then French B will offer one for like $450. And you're like, God. Nah, that's French B. I should probably do that.

ZC's French B. Yeah, but that looks like shit to me. Remember Wow Airlines? I don't remember Wow. But look at that. I mean, that's like... It's going to be the same thing. like, yeah, I bet it's gonna, you can't shoot your seat, there's no checked bag.

Well, you know what I think the real issue is? What? So if you have any kind of, if you fly Delta to Paris from LAX, there's always a chance. There's some kind of weather. There's some kind of disruptions and whatever in the flight before you gets delayed. So whatever, but they're going to do their best. They have a massive fleet. They're going to try to put you on another flight, find whatever they can do with French

or Nordic airs or whatever. You're fucked. Fucked. They're like, try again tomorrow. I'm sorry, we don't have any more flies today. Fuck you, but thank you. I think that's the real, I think that's the real risk you take.

But for some people, it's worth it. I mean, 400 bucks to Paris. That was the big, so, wow, and they're flying the fuck. Is that an A340? Wow. Oh, no, that's just an old airplane. The A340 is very famously like the slowest. Airbus plane to be able to take off.

It's got four engines, but it's only one Airbus A340. Google that real fast. Airbus A340. It's a 340. There you go. That's close enough. Yeah, this thing is so slow. Look at that thing.

It's beautiful, though. Beautiful airplane. But those engines are very small. So they famously have to take the entire runway just to take off. It's very entertaining. Anyway, so Spirit Airlines, what done got from freaking fell out the sky. Their airplanes all crashed,

and then they said it's over. That's not what happened. They've actually never had a... That's correct. Any kind of issue they've had... They've never had a deadly flight. They've never had a fatal crash. Have they crashed?

I don't know. I don't think they've crashed. I think they've completely had... Like, they have a complete safe track record. Yeah. They did not experience a physical plane crash, but rather a permanent... Oh, fucking Google, but rather a permanent, immediate shutdown of all operations.

Oh, my God. Okay, so perfect record. Yeah. They've never crashed. They've never had unsafe. Yeah. Yeah. They've been around for 34 years.

They employed over 17,000 people. Which is very sad because those people are all now out of work. Yeah, out of work. But other airlines are picking up the slack and they're offering them like. priority to get hired. And also, you know, the planes... There's no way all 17,000 of those people are getting hired, though. I mean, that was at their peak.

I think recently they were down to 10,000, but still. And they, according to their website, the statement that they put out over the weekend, quote, they started an orderly wind down of our operations effective immediately. The last flight was from Detroit to Dallas Fort Worth. I wonder what that was like on there. I wonder what the pilot said. I would cuss. What are they going to fire you?

Welcome to fucking Dallas Fort Worth. Thanks for flying spirit air will at lines. You might put yourself in a tough position if you're angling for a job. To get re-hired. Yeah. But yeah, it was all very abrupt. May 2nd, they just go, I don't know if abrupt is the right word, though,

because they've been warning about this for a long time. The Trump administration was apparently floating the idea of a bailout. So everyone knew they were in trouble. But yeah, they had done sometime. And then May 2nd, they said, you know what, folks? That's it. Tonight at midnight, we're seizing operations. Ooh, let's play that.

It looks like someone captured that final moment. Emotional moment. Pilot announced this shutdown of Spirit Airlines Operations. Is this the final flight? I don't know if it's the fight. It might just be one of them. Still, let's hear it. Then we're going to be ceasing operations at 3 a.m. Eastern time today.

I met a lot of friends along the way. Oh. Great conversations with some of you over the 14 years. Okay, keep it together. Not so great conversations occasionally. A lot of crazy stuff has happened, but it's funny as we sit here. I'll speak for myself. I don't remember any of the bad times.

Two of the months. So we've been in the... air since 1983. What is that? Forty three years. And unfortunately that's over.

So thank you for your support over the years. All right. Onward and upward, right? Very touching. If I'm on an airplane and my pilot is crying,

I'm not... I'm going damn, brother. We are going down. Yeah. Also, if there's some confusion, he's saying the 43 years thing because Spirit originally started as a different

company. It was called like Charter Airlines or something. It was just a regional tour and they did some freight stuff or whatever and then they bought jets for their fleet and in the early 90s turned it into Spirit Airlines and started bringing passengers.

There was a pilot who was due to retire. I think it was going to be his last flight and because Spirit went under, he was then fucked and Southwest West did a really cool thing and they flew him home on what would have been that final route of his. Obviously, they didn't let him fly the plane or anything. But they did a water salute like they do.

You know they do that, right? Whoa, really? So when it's a pilot's last flight? Whoa, really? You don't know this niche thing about pilots? Connor, can you look up airplane water salute? Is that a big thing? Yeah, it's a big thing.

It's a very special thing. When a pilot retired. But do you think that's like common knowledge? I thought that it was. A water salute is where airport fire trucks create an arc of arch of water over a taxiing aircraft. Go to images. I don't know. I just thought that everybody knew what that was.

I guess I did not. I mean, maybe I'm sure some commenters will be like, of course. Wow. Yeah, look at that one. They're spraying, spraying blood over that one. That guy was the most deadly pilot. Yeah. Anyway, I can't wait to experience that one day.

That'd be really special. I hope it happens for you. But so, okay, Spirit is shutting down. It is going to be bad for consumers. And now everyone is playing the blame game. You have Scott Bissent going out and being like, well, obviously, we inherit another. It's another bad situation. We inherited from Biden.

You know, these people on their deathbeds will be talking about. Don't buy me butt cancer. This is just more of the mess. Joe Biden left me. And they say that because, and honestly, it's not just Republicans saying, this. I've seen Democrats like Neartandon and others talking about how if the Biden administration would have just let Spirit or JetBlue basically merge with Spirit, then we would have not been in this situation. If they would have let them get married and just love is love,

then none of this would have to. Which I want to be very clear is not true. This is absolute bullshit. Number one, it was illegal. Spirit knew it. JetBlue knew it. Spirit had hired analysts to look into the potential merger, and they all concluded that this is illegal. It'll never go through so much so that they have a slide from one of their presentations to shareholders basically saying, do not vote for this. It's not going to, it's not going to work out for us. Interesting. Because there was another merger proposal from Frontier, which wouldn't have been illegal because they didn't. fly on, they didn't have such similar routes and everything. And yeah, the Spirit CEO went on MSNBC

and said as much like we think this is illegal. And it was just never going to happen. But there was a period of time. George Bush, Whoa, where are you going with this? George W. Bush and Obama. What do you mean?

It was just funny because you were just like, and da-da-da-da-da. George Bush. George W. Bush and Obama. basically oversaw a massive consolidation of the airline industry. I'm sure you remember as a kid, I don't know what yours were, but Newark Airport was a huge continental airlines hub, flew on continental airlines a lot that merged with United. I remember when U.S. Airways, I still, I had miles for U.S. Airways. Oh, yeah.

And then they merged with American. We had all these big airlines that basically just don't exist anymore because it, was just a absolute free-for-all. By the way. Wait, before you do that, sure. You had Delta, which absorbed northwest,

United and Continental, Southwest and AirTran, and American and U.S. Airways. And now we just have these massive, you know, the big four. What you were going to say, by the way?

Well, don't forget 9-11 airlines. That was the... They got absorbed by... Was that the, by the way? They got absorbed by the Twin Towers. Was that? Was that the by the way?

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JetBlue's CEO actually just today, I believe, said oh yeah, there's that slide. Shareholders should think about the conversation with regulators with JetBlue acquisition of spirit will have lasting negative impacts on consumers. Anyway. Yeah, this, I mean, analysts now are like, the more likely situation is if the JetBlue

Spirit acquisition went through, it likely would have just, it would have just sped up JetBlue's demise as well. They had, they had so much debt at the time, and they wanted to take even more debt on. Everyone was like, this is just untenable. untenable. And then it also wouldn't have even really helped consumers because their plan was to basically just like cut 40% of the routes so that Spirit was not undercutting them anymore. And then just jack up prices. Well, I'm glad that that didn't go through. Spirit did file for bankruptcy twice in the last two years, but ultimately recently they're blaming high oil prices and jet fuel prices, which the JetBlue CEO, as of today said they might have to consider reshuffling under Chapter 11 bankruptcy. Yeah, I mean, the real reason Spirit had to do this, the final death now was just the gas prices from the Iran War.

It's going to happen to... You're seeing this everywhere. I mean, Lufthansa cut, I think tens of thousands of flights. Yeah, we're going to have to cut flights. I think Air India said we're not... I'm not going to touch that one. We're not doing international flights through the rest of the summer. Damn.

It's like, no one's going to be able to, this is going to be very difficult to survive, especially for airlines like this. Yeah. I love what Pete Buttigieg said on Monday. He wrote on Twitter, quote, you can't lower gas prices by blurting out the names of a few Democrats. And then he blamed the doubling of jet fuel prices for why Spirit went under. but they did also

nobody really noticed this they had a few ongoing engine issues causing a bunch of the planes to be grounded Pratt and Whitney engines go figure you wouldn't get that out with a Rolls-Royce Everyone knows about the Pratt and Whitney engines It's almost as popular as the water salute

Yeah I suppose you've never seen an airplane do a wing a wing dip Farewell either Again when a pilot is It's like a little salute Yeah they make the plane go like this Oh, I should have done that on her thing.

Well, whatever. There's always next time. So. There was also tons of predatory practices going on from other airlines, which I do find crazy and it's underreported. Disgusting test messages between each other? Delta texting spirit, like show me your boobs? I wish it was that. Predatory.

Basically, the big four airlines were lobbying against the Trump administration's bailout of spirit because they hate spirit. Yeah. As I was saying before, when Spirit enters the market, they have to lower their own prices to compete. So they were lobbying heavily against the bailout. They were like, no, please let this airline fail. It's going to be good for us. Yeah. And they also, it's not proven, but there was some reporting that they would do this thing where they would try to undercut their own passengers.

So when Spirit Airlines weren't fully booked, and they often weren't till the last minute, because often Spirit is, it's full of people who are flying last minute because it's like, fuck, all right. I'm getting, if I'm trying to fly Delta at the last minute, it's going to be prohibitively expensive. And then you're looking at that spirit flight,

and you're like, yeah, fine. I'll sit next to that, stinky guy. Whatever. I'll do it. But companies like Delta and United started doing this thing where they could they would release like

10 seats at a level comparable to spirits fairs and people would go well shit I'll just take that one and basically to make sure that a spirit could no longer maximize their maximum their revenue on those flights so there's just all kinds of weird

fucking shit going on yeah I found it interesting how they did this, how they wound it down, because I was curious. They apparently asked the FAA to issue a ground stop. So like when pilots look on their computers or get their pre-flight briefings, it says like zero spirit airlines planes are allowed to take off. Just in case some pilot out there didn't, you see the news or hear the news. And they made the announcement that they were winding things down when they made, that's why on that, on that, announcement that we heard the pilot make. They said as of 3 a.m. Eastern time. So it was like

when no more planes were flying. They set up a reserve fund to issue refunds. And yeah, United Delta JetBlue and Southwest are offering $200 one-way flights for people with spirit confirmation numbers who are stranded or whatever. Speaking of which, I forgot to mention this, just the other day, the United CEO, Scott Kirby, suggested a murder. between them and American Airlines. And apparently... Oh, yeah, that's been going on. Yeah.

And apparently the head of the American Airlines like pilot union association said publicly, like, this is a bold idea and I'm for it. Like, all right. Yeah, I'm sure they are. All they want to do is consolidate and completely, like, completely control the market,

jack up their prices, collude with each other, continue to play this, like... They're all just credit card companies. Basically. It's insane. And it's going to be, it's going to get so expensive. As long as I get my Biskhoff cookie, I don't care, man. Give me my Bisk off, bitch. Come on.

It was already, I mean, it was already bad before the war in Iran. Now, I don't know how anyone's going to be able to afford to fly. Yeah, I mean, Delta famously bumped me three times from lay flat into coach. And I had it. It was three times in the last like three years, two or three years. Oh, oh, oh. Where it was like, well, we didn't sell enough tickets on that other flight, so we had to change planes. And on this one, you're going to get bumped down.

But here's 5,000 miles and they left a Snickers bar on my seat. Remember that? No. That's what they did. And I had to, like, repeatedly ask them to like, no, make this right. There's so much complaining when we're traveling from you that I just kind of have to like. Well, here's the fucked up part. Yeah.

Listen to this. And you're just like walking through the terminal. And it's just this next to you know. And it's fucked up because, and I paid him points. Well, listen to this. I paid, I paid like 90,000 points, whatever it was to fly Delta One. And I got bumped down to coach, which is, I get that. That happens.

It's not anyone's fault. And then the whole trip, he's on the phone with airlines. Well. And so he comes out and he's like, you, you don't even believe. Well, because they've, no, and they've offered me 15,000 points. Here's the problem. After that happened. And you're going, yeah, okay.

After that happened, they changed their system. And what used to cost 90,000 points now cost 180,000. I'm so pissed. Wouldn't you be? Christ on the cross. It went from 90 to 180 and I didn't even get that flight. Now you're offering me a fraction of that 90 anyway. So make it right.

God damn it. Or I'll crash the next plane I'm on. But it's just, it's always something with you. It's always something. Every time you're like... But for the most part, I'm fine, man. As long as I don't have to poop at the airport or, God forbid, on the plane, then I'm fine, man. You know, I don't care.

Just give me my Bisc golf cookie. No, but I feel like literally every... I use points all the time. I never go through this every day. Because I booked Delta 1. No, you're always doing something fucky. And then... And the best part is...

Oh, it's fucking. Okay, fine, go on. The best part is that the entire lead-up to the... this happening is him texting you like well I'm gonna be in first class so suck my dick and you're like okay whatever I truly don't care now you remember yeah

and then him just like solemnly coming up and being like I got kicked out of the lounge apparently I've been downgraded and you're like good I don't I don't feel bad for you it's obviously because it's the color of my skin anyway so now

let's buy spirit air shall we this guy on TikTok started a movement, if you will, if you will. And it's so stupid. I mean, I get it. It's fun, but it's, uh, let's just play it. Go ahead. Idea. Spirit Airlines just went bankrupt, right? I'm the guy that flew Spirit Airlines for 24 hours straight. There's more than 250 million individuals over the age of 18 in the United States. Now, if we took only 20% of them and paid basically the average fare of a Spirit Airlines flight, which is somewhere around $30 to $40, we could buy a Speard Airlines. This is a genius idea.

We nationalized. I hate this guy. I hate him, too. Owned by people. Airlines gone. We make a new airline. Let's buy an airline. I should make it better enough of this.

Okay, I had a genius. God, dude. Like, come on, man. Shut up. It's not, shut up. And go, okay, let's do it.

Oh, go to the website. Let's buy Spirit Air. It's a very nicely put together website. Spirit 2.0. vibe-coded it? By us, probably. I could vibe-cote a website and we could buy it with the savings that you save from one flight. Private

equity is already circling the wreckage, but before they lock it up, there is a narrow window for something that has never happened in commercial aviation. The passengers, the workers, and the community's spirit served can take it back. Like the Green Bay Packers, like WinCo Foods, like us. I didn't know this, but the Green Bay Packers

is apparently owned by 360,000 people. That's cool. I mean, look, it's cool, but like, you pledge, you pledge how much money you would... What do they have to raise? Ten billion dollars? Dude, that's the thing. It's not like out, somewhere out there, they've got a

chase card, a chase credit card that is like a billion dollars overdue, and it's like, well, we can't pay it. And as soon as they have enough money, they can just log on and click pay, and then oh, the lights are back on. No, no, no, no. That's what's

frustrating about this kind of thing. Is it is it caters to gullible, I was going to say stupid, gullible people who are like, this is a fun, ape together strong kind of thing. Brother, do you have any idea how complicated and hard it is to run a company, let alone a goddamn airline?

Well, and what, like, it's not just a matter of getting a, how are you going to accumulate, even if they had the amount of money necessary to like bail them out, the,

the, the organization, structural structure. He's got to sort through all the creditors. Yeah, what are you going to fucking do? Rewind an airline and then restart it. Rehire everybody. Give me a fucking break.

Apparently, also what they were doing was pretty, pretty impressive. They weren't like these big airlines where they've massive hubs and airports and stuff like that. They were running very effectively just on their little terminals and stuff. Apparently it was a pretty impressive

operation they had gone. I wouldn't have been dead on one of these fucking planes. Why? Can airlines what? You mean like nationalized? I don't know. Well, the, it used to kind of be that way.

The airlines were heavily regulated before the Carter administration, like 1978 or 1979. They started deregulating them. And now it's like become this, uh, become this free for all of consolidation where they're now just these mega corporations. We've never had anything like. Greyhound bus or Amtrak, but in the air? No.

Uh, but. I'm with you. This is going to be bad for people. I just don't think this is a great... Yeah. This is a great thing. It's going to become... 88 million dollars have been pledged so far.

Go ahead. It's going to become like... People always talk about the heyday of flying. Like, I'm sure you've seen those... Of course. ...posts of... White nationalists talking about it? I mean, it did...

Oh, this was before black people were allowed on planes. Well, it was... Back when the flight attendants wore skirts and you could fuck them. they wanted to sorry go ahead it is very in the vein of this is what they took from us thing and they post a picture of

you know Pan Am in 1964 whatever but people also don't think about what the cost of that was and how prohibitive it was only rich wealthy people flew

it wasn't like it is now where everyone can jump on a plane and go to Europe if they want. You could hijack him easy back then, too. They happen all the time. I think this was from the Atlanta Garlet's. Flying round chip from Los Angeles to New York cost $208 in 1958. That doesn't sound so bad.

No, but that's today. In today's dollars, $2,377. Like, imagine if that's what cross-country flights were. Well, and back then, well, I don't know if that was before or after the age of pressure is pressurization, but before cabins were pressurized, they had to fly at like 10,000 feet, which means it was loud and fucking bumpy. So you'd be in there like, oh, shit, I hope we make it to fucking, where are we going? I just thought of something interesting.

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K. That's the situation. The top 10% of earners are spending 50% percent. make up 50% of consumer spending. Yeah. And airlines know this. The ones that are doing the best are people like Delta who catered to more higher-end, um,

higher-end clientele. And they've even talked about how when they're doing their new planes for things that are doing, uh, international routes, they're going to start separating us by race. They're doing like half the plane now of, uh, you know, the higher end.

Yeah. Business first, comfort, whatever. And leaving just like, like the last rows for coach because they're like this is who flies. There are a couple

man I wish I could remember what airline it was but there's one airline that does a business class only plane. Is it JSX? Business class, no only airline.

There's one specific flight. Only business class only flight. I could swear ay yeah, yeah. It was called anyway there was one airplane

that only had yeah someone's saying it's La Compaigne Of course it's French you fuck That maybe that's it Maybe that is what I'm thinking of

La Companie Okay La Companie But that's kind of cool Also That was your point I just It's not something that you always see

You know The Airbus A321's That American fly especially L.A. to New York, I like that layout the most because it's like six first class seats and like six rows. Six rows of business class. And then coach is like kind of a party back there.

It's a real party back there. It's like 15 rows. Which one is this American? American, yeah. People talk shit on American, but guess what? You're wrong. Even though American banned me from their advantage program and stole 680,000 of my miles. It's always like, this is when it's like,

it's just. They stole it from it. me. What? Because I took advantage of a loophole that they designed? That's their fault. Listening to grievances from prior travel experience. And the flight attendants like, do you want the cheese and crackers or the, you know, whatever. Cheese and crackers, please. It's the least you could do. American did have the worst of all of the, those cheeky videos. What's your favorite, what's your favorite airline? Currently? Yeah. Dude, it's easy. I would say JetBlue, but I hate the placement of their remote control. Your elbow is constantly

hitting it and changing the channel. Or in my case, I fell asleep and then my elbow hit the volume and all of a sudden it turned up way loud and I was like, I would have to say, am I going domestic or international? Dude, just fucking whatever. Just pick one. Because if I'm going international, you know I got to go with Emmerz. No, go domestic. Okay, domestic, I got to go with, I got to go with.

It's Delta far and away. Delta. I would go Delta, then American, then Southwest. then JetBlue. Before United? Yeah, I never found United to be... I mean, United was used in 9-11, so... It's crazy they recovered from that.

Truly, when you think about it? Yeah. You would think they would be like, why don't we just switch the name? Yeah, yeah. Let's do... divided. Divided Airlines. American...

Oh, no, that's already taken. But how about America Airlines? No. I feel like it's honestly Delta and then a huge gap. And the- Really? It's so much nicer. I guess.

And literally every time I've been flying Delta so much that I start to go, it's fine, just do a different airline. It doesn't matter. They do have the best colors. And then I switch

and immediately, I'm like, fuck, I hate this. I fucking pissed at them, though, for changing their redemption rates on the points.

It's always with this guy. It's a crime, man. It's fucking criminal. I think airlines just should stop being credit card companies and just fly a fucking plane.

Every time you're out of flight And if we'll be coming around with signups for our credit card There's a 60,000. But shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Give me my Bisk off cookie and fuck off. Give me my Biscop cookie. Email me.

Oh, sorry, sir, if you can be in the next row, you need to answer an affirmative of the yes if you're going to be able to help in the case of evacuation. I need a verbal yes. That one I'm okay with. Uh-huh. No, I said I need a verbal yes. Yes.

Okay, thank you. That wouldn't it make sense? Yeah, it does make sense, yeah. You want the people sitting in the exit road to be able to help. You know, they should make the boarding go through the center of the plane so that people can go either direction. You go down, okay, excuse me. Okay.

You ever go on one of those smaller planes? I've only really done it in Europe or something, but they'll basically, you board outside and you go through the front and the back. Yeah, we've done it. that together. We did where? Yeah. When we flew to like Austin or something, we definitely, I have one second a day footage of like you, me and Dylan getting on. We boarded outside front and back. I think. At Burbank. Interesting. Maybe Burbank's small enough. I could see that. Yeah, Burbank, the most dangerous airport in America. I feel like I've only done it like. I remember like on, I remember being in some small island and they're like, go right up. Good luck airlines

I still remember my favorite flight I ever did It was so cool It was from it was a layover Coming home Europe And we were flying What is it Oh Jesus

It sounds like a sexual act It's the Irish one What's it called? The Irish Airlines What's it called? Oh, Aer Lingus Air Lingus Yeah

Do you want some air lingus I flew LAX to Dublin, I enjoyed myself on Air Lingus. The flight home to LAX from Dublin, I am not kidding, didn't turn once. We took off and I, you know me, I'm paying attention. Let me see. Has anyone felt a turn? Flight doesn't turn.

Air Lingus flight from Dublin. Oh, of course, it's given me fucking, it was forced to turn around. No, I'm talking about the fact that it didn't turn at all. The, you know, most, most, just let me, just let me, just let me spurg out. Nothing. I'm enjoying it. You know, you take off at LAX, for example. You go over the ocean and then you make a big you turn to go in whatever direction. Unless you're going to Hawaii, you just go straight out. But the flight from Dublin, it was just a gradual climb. And I'm like, when are we going to make our turn? Because I was assuming, you know, we're pointed in whatever, whichever direction. And I was like, oh, the way that it takes off, it must be just pointed all the way at America. Sure enough, I was right. And we just took off. to altitude and then we're just cruising. And then I was like, okay, well, surely when we get to LAX, we're going to land in the, we're going to find ourselves in that landing pattern where we go out over Malibu and do a big U-turn.

And then the big S turn, the U-turn it downtown to land. No, no, no, no, we just came straight-o. And I remember thinking, holy shit, this international flight did not turn like more than a couple degrees to keep us on track. It didn't do a fucking turn. I think that's cool That's so cool So anyway

So what do you do for work On a date All right Let's talk about the sex assault Let's change gears We talk about Alleged sexual assault Then I don't even need to do a trigger warning

Because this is Almost certainly made up Well and it's also It's a it's a role reversal It's not a man getting So you're saying you only do trigger warnings if it's a woman who's been assaulted, not a man who's been assaulted.

Is that what you're saying? Yeah, it's exactly right. Because fuck men. Fuck men's feelings. Am I right, girls? Am I right, ladies? Yeah, we don't have feelings. We're impervious to a sexual assault.

Do you think that's true? No, it's not. I've been technically kind of sexual assaulted a few times. Oh, brother. I was coerced in having sex a couple times. Maybe we should do this in the bonus episode. No, no, no, no. Anyway, so there's this guy.

Google him real fast. Pull him up. His name is Shariu Rana. And he's a 35-year-old guy, worked at a bunch of different places. Go to images. And the dude, the dude is very, he looks like Count Chocula made a wish to become a human. And this is the woman that he is like openly accusing of all. Well, I feel bad for it.

Oh, of course. This is incredibly fucked up. Also, like, I don't think the story should have. even been reported. I want to sue J.B. Morgan. This got picked up by the Daily Mail, which is basically just, you know, the most trash, rag, whatever.

And they're allowed to skirt defamation laws because once it's been in a lawsuit, it's, they can report on it as it's happened and it's out in the record in the public, whatever. But they shouldn't

be able to do that. And some people are talking about how there actually might be some changes to the law because stuff like this happens where clearly the Daily Mail did not do any like, oh, is this plausible at all? Because as we're going to talk about, it's not plausible at all. And there's internal investigations showing that like they didn't even work together. Whatever, we'll get into all that. But this poor woman, it's like, I mean, everyone's doing it in good fun. but I mean, anytime you Google her name after this, this fucking ridiculous story is going to pop up. It could hopefully have some kind of unintended positive effect for her

where the over... Why, she seems to be doing fine. She was higher up at J.B. Morgan. The overwhelming amount of sympathy toward her, I would think would... Yeah, it's, you know... What would she need? It's just not that she would need anything, but everybody obviously rightly feels terribly for her,

assuming that this guy's allegations are false, which it seems like they are. I have to imagine, if anything, it's only negative for her. This is a private person who's now very public, and I can't imagine... So her name is Lorna Hajdini, and this guy, she's a senior executive at J.P. Morgan,

and this guy is alleging sexual abuse, racial harassment, and workplace intimidation by her done to him. internal investigations at J.P. Morgan found zero evidence, including the fact, this is, this is an important one. He never worked under her. And part of the allegations include her threatening him to withhold bonuses, to fire him, whatever. The whole thing hinges on him being her, or her being his superior. Yeah. And J.P. Morgan even said, quote, the complainant, in this case, Chirayu, refused to participate in investigation in the investigation. In the investigation. investigation and declined to provide facts that would be central to support his allegations. He had also, prior to this, he had filed complaints against J.P. Morgan's citing racial and gender discrimination before this one and wanted to pay out in the millions of dollars.

J.P. Morgan said go pound sand. And then it looks like he filed this one after that. Not before they dug up his whole weird thing where he went into a. Oh yeah. Legal chat bot and workshopped his workshoped his story of the sexual... How do they get that? I don't understand how they even dig that up and make it public so quickly. So, I mean, I'm sure people have seen the crazy...

The crazy stories of the things this woman was saying to him. Oh, yeah, we've got them all. But from the very beginning, I was a bit like, this feels so weird because the stuff he had her saying... Uh-huh. I was like, number one, I don't even think this white woman would be aware of some of those things. And then I don't feel like a woman would talk like that. The fishhead cannon thing.

Well, we don't know if that one's authentic because we pull up the under highlights. It says, unsure if real. This is an alleged, I couldn't find this one, but part of it is part of the official thing. And this is by far the biggest one that everyone was talking about. Hajdini then allegedly removed her shirt, began fondling her breasts, and racially insulted John... He was John Doe at the time,

remarking, quote, I bet your little Asian fishhead wife doesn't have these canons. So that right there, I'm like, Fishhead, I don't think I've ever even heard... Have you? No. Like, that would...

If someone was like, be racist to this Asian person, I'd be like, what? Fishhead? I don't even know what that is. And then cannons, I don't think.

these canons. I don't think I've ever heard a woman in my life call breasts cannons. Yeah. Then the complaint says she repeatedly remind him that she owned him and that she controlled his promotion and bonus.

No claim she then forcibly removed his pants and performed oral sex on him against his will. He continued to protest. On one occasion, she propositioned him for oral sex in the office saying birthday BJ for the brown boy

my little brown boy do you think you're going to be in good standing if you do not have me in your corner you really think management wants some brown boy Indian leading originations you're not welcome because of your skin color people don't want you or

your kind here boy this is going to be brutal for me if this gets clipped out of context it's also I'm calling you my little brown boy yeah I mean so it's just all that I yeah well so in the suit, he claims that she turned him into her sex slave by drugging him with rohypnal, which is the date rape drug, and Viagra, and threatened to slash his bonus if he didn't cooperate.

He also claimed someone else from J.P. Morgan showed up at his apartment one time and coerced him into sext. Anyway, so part of the highlights from this, after he declined drinks one time because of the weather, Lorna, his supervisor, well, he allegedly, is his supervisor, which she wasn't, invited him into her Uber and allegedly dropped a one-liner.

Come with me. I don't like the rain, but I do like getting wet. It's just like... It's like if a guy had to write, you know, what are those fantasy novels? Yeah, a fantasy thing.

The romance fantasy? Come with me. Hey, your fish had wife probably sucks shit. Look at my big goopy boots. Click the two links Because TMZ

Had some highlights here I like the rain But I do like getting wet I do like getting wet I'm talking about my vagina And just to be clear Yeah I'm talking about my vagina

My big white pussy Yeah yeah He says Hajdini also confessed She repeatedly slipped him Roofies At one point forcing him to have sex

As she scolded him And made him cry Okay Pussy I'm joking. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. Let's see. On another occasion, he said that if she told him if he wanted a promotion to executive director, he would have to earn it by pleasing her. At one point, she grabbed his junk and ran her spit-covered hands over his head and neck. And at that same function, she called him her, quote, little Arab boy toy. he says that she dropped a pen on the floor near his desk and as she bent down to pick it up, she caressed his leg telling him, quote,

Oh, did you play basketball in college? I love basketball players. They get me so wet. They get me so wet. And John Doe says when he once refused to have drinks with her, she allegedly responded, quote, If you don't fuck me soon, I'm going to ruin you. Never forget, I fucking own you.

Well, the banker also accuses a supervisor of making racially challenging charged remarks allegedly telling him leadership wanted to keep the firm, quote, strong and white. There's no, I'm sorry, but there's no way that someone, I just don't believe that. Oh. That she'd be like, yeah, we're never going to promote you. We want to keep this place strong and white. It's possible. It's also so silly because, like, it's. This is not the kind of thing that you need to have to win a sexual harassment or racially motivated harassment lawsuit.

He's going so over the top. Yeah. For I don't know why. I don't know why. But he seems to be maybe an absolute madman. There's all this other reporting about him lying about his dad's death. Yeah. Well, he lied about his dad dying so he could get paid leave and use the time off to prepare to prepare this lawsuit.

but apparently his dad is totally alive and fine. And as of today, there was a new filing where he's got an anonymous witness friend that says that this woman was drunk at his place and lit a cigarette and begged this guy to, quote, join them in bed. So I'm picturing the three of them at his place and she's like, why don't you fuck? Let's have a threeway. and despite refusing several times, the mystery witness claims that she told him,

quote, you know I own him, so you better come join. And after she returned to the bedroom, he claims that he could hear Rana pleading, no, no, no, you have to leave. I'm not going to do this. Please stop.

Just, again, we're not trying to make light of the notion. We're going to look really silly if this comes out of it. I'll eat my own dick. If it's true. Yeah. You'll eat your own dick if this is true. Yeah, but I don't. think that it is. I don't think it's true

either, but I'm not so confident that I'd eat my own dick. Yeah. Okay, yeah, fair. I take it back. This isn't a million people on Mars type of situation. This is a... I mean, who knows? I don't think it's true. I don't think it's true at all. There's also, like, people have dug up

records. He worked at, like, I think he's shuffled around eight different... That's... Eight different investment firms in the last 12 years. I think the last person before this posting, he was managed out for poor performance. And it just seems like he was trying to avoid getting fired. Or at least get a payday if he was going to. I don't know. Count Chocula, man. This guy can't

I wouldn't trust Count Chocula at my investment firm. He really does look like him. Yeah, that's the other sad thing for this guy is everyone was buying the story and having a lot of fun with it. There was all kinds of memes of I'm trying to get hired at, I'm trying to get hired at, I'm trying to hired at J.P. Morgan as soon as possible because this is what happens. I want to work there. Oh. But then the picture of the guy came out and everyone's like, nah, this is bullshit. Yeah. So let's do, let's round it. Should we, should we do the Amazon thing? Do we have time? We could do it quick. We could do a quick. So Amazon created this new thing. This new feature. It's this new thing where you can listen to, apparently they did this because they said, and rightfully so.

sometimes consumers can feel overwhelmed with the amount of information on a page, reviews, questions, product descriptions. It's at a point where you click any somewhat popular product. And they're like, we have 600,000 reviews on this thing. Oh, okay. But also here's like 10 similar products that are just slightly different. And also have 600,000 reviews. Yeah.

And it's at 4.8 stars. Yeah. So you can click this new button where you can, it's called, hear the highlights, and they have two AI podcast hosts who describe using a combination of reviews and questions that have already been asked, they give you this... They give you the information in podcast form, which I also, in a sad way, I have to imagine what's factored into this is that they know no one reads anymore and maybe can't read. And then, like, they ingest all their information through short form content or podcast.

And they're like, I think this is the way we have to reach people. It's like when Iran first, when the Iran War first popped off, they released this, like, beautiful, flowery, the Iranians. Mm-hmm. Passage, like, to the Americans. Oh, yeah. You are our brothers, like, blah, blah, blah. And someone must have been like, hey, just so you know, Americans don't know how to read. So, uh, that's like O-A-I movies.

Yeah, they were like, Lego AI movies. Let's just do that. So Katie Natopoulos, the former BuzzFeed writer, who now is at Business Insider, did this. Here's this one from Rapid Relief. What is this? Diper rash cream. So let's play this clip. Today, our AI generated shopping show is exploring the Welmedics Rapid Relief Diper Rash cream.

Emma, what makes this hospital grade cream different from standard diaper rash products? Wow. it's really interesting. This cream uses a dual action approach. Instead of just zinc oxide, it combines that with white petrelatum to create two protective barriers. This helps both treat existing irritation

and prevent new issues from developing. So you can also ask questions. Yeah, for the audio listener, you couldn't see, but you can pop up a little keyboard and prompt it. And she's writing help, my butt hurts. Go ahead. issues from developing.

That's fascinating. So it's not just about treating the problem, but stopping it from coming back? Exactly. And they've added some really thoughtful ingredients like calendula and white birch bark extract. These botanical ingredients help soothe sensitive skin while the dual barrier does the heavy lifting. All right, Katie, we've got you. You're dealing with discomfort, and this cream is designed for exactly that kind of irritation. Irma, what can you tell them?

This is actually formulated for adults dealing with skin irritation from incontinence, chafing, or moisture. So you get it. You get it. I have to say, it's impressive that, that's an impressive. It is pretty impressive feature, I will say. Click the dog poop one. I don't think I'll be using it, but. So this guy, and it's not on every single product, but this guy did it on, this guy did it on a fake dog poop.

item. So go ahead. Let's play the podcast for this. Today our AI generated shopping show is exploring the vaulted skull's realistic dog poop prank. Jake, what makes this particular gag gift stand out? Well, it's all about the attention to detail in the design. At four inches long, it's sized perfectly for believability. The chunky texture and authentic brown coloring make it a real showstopper. And I mean that quite literally when people spot it. Oh my. And how are people typically using this unique item. You know, it's become a go-to for office pranks and party gags. The material is really durable so pranksters can use it repeatedly.

According to customer feedback, the realistic appearance is a huge hit, though some mentioned wishing it had a more authentic scent. Gotcha. I suppose that's good. All right, that's... Can you imagine you're some guy working in a factory in Shenzhen and it's like, you're making dog poops? Oh, these Americans really love that fake dog poop.

Yeah, what's going on? anyway I wonder if this is what these videos are what made Richard Dawkins think that Claude is alive Did you see that article?

Yeah Wait, who's Richard Dawkins again? He's the fucking famous atheist guy Oh yeah He wrote Evolution The selfish gene He's a hack

All right everybody We got a lot to talk about In the bonus Let's see I'm just going to read off the, look at this horny ass spider, Ben Bankus, man serial,

Scientology raids, Mickey Mantle, social skills, floss. I've got a bone to pick with glide floss. It's a major, major,

major scandal, actually. I'm not joking. And, if it's not like breaking news, no, it's a big deal. It's no joke.

It is a big deal. And I will talk about it. You know I'm going to be talking about it. It's a big deal. It is a big deal. Are you going to go after glide floss, Aaron Brockovich style, kind of? No, I don't think that. Well, you'll see.

You'll see. You'll see, folks. All right. Tune and we got it. We got it. It's good to the, pull up the comment of the week. We almost didn't do it. We almost didn't do it.

Why does he do? This is from Taz 3R. Why does he do the Tim Allen meme so good? First of all, it's not a meme. That's just the sound. Tim Allen makes on the show of Home Improvement, which goes, it could be considered a... That is a meme, though.

You're thinking of meme in strictly the post-internet sense. Meme is also a thing that existed before the internet. Yeah, that's true. And the reason that I'm good at it is because, I don't know, man, it's just right in my wheelhouse. Doug apparently likes it. Look at that. Okay.

He's getting right in my lap. All right, folks, we'll see you in the bub-bub-bub-bunus. Coming up on this week's episode of Ben and Amiel show.com. Trans, abortion, race, Indian guy. Gen Z. Sensitivity. Oh, man.

The thing that frees... Yeah. White women. Here, I'm putting this in the chat. Epic. I don't hate him. When a guy says that you suck, you gotta just take it in and eat some oysters and have a beer.

I don't. And watch the sunset with a Thai Chinese guy. I don't hate him. He's fine. You just think that he's overblown. He's overhyped. I think that's more of it. I think everyone needs to like hop off his dick a little bit.

I know. I agree. It's totally fine. If you love Anthony Bourdain, I'm all, I love it. Kitchen Confidential. Kitchen Confidential. He gave birth to the cross-armed, tattooed chef. Yeah.

We love, I love walking into your bedroom and seeing that, that earmarked copy of kitchen confidential and been like, wow, this guy. This guy's a little. Chefs are naughty. Sure, yeah. Chefs are actually pretty naughty. I know we were talking about. You're not going to like reach. Glide is,

it was a very specific thing. And I'm glad you liked it. But those days were over and you're going to have to pull your big boy pants up and get over and start using it. I'm trying to pulling my big boy pants up. I love my little boy pants. I want to wear him forever.

You grew out of them. Fucking shit, dude. Oral B started making your big boy pants in a different way and they don't fit you anymore. Test find PFAS abundant in some dental floss. So great. Not only do I have to subject myself to terrible.

Four products had more than 70,000 parts per million or 7% PFAS with Oral B testing at 248. Oh my God. Oh my God. Is that a lot?

Yeah. So... Damn, dude. That's why you're so... So that's been the cost of me being really good at flossing my teeth. That's why you're so weird. You're full of plastic. Way more than other people. I've been flossinging with that shit for like over a decade.

You're dead. Every single day. Do you think maybe it gave you the brain innerism? You should sue. I mean, how do you prove that, man? How do I prove anything? We can prove it. We can do it.

What are we going to do? Can I sue them? Can I sue them? Ben, let's do this.