The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 172: Why Muse is such a big deal

Episode Date: October 1, 2026

Mark Zuckerberg pulled off the hat trick with the release of Muse. Not only did it spike Meta's stock price, but it caused a ripple effect taking down several other companies in various sectors. We'll dig into that and why laziness is apparently worth billions. Join us TOMORROW, OCT 2 for a livestream here on YouTube! 1:30 PM PST! BEN & EMIL ON ALIENS OUT NOW: https://youtu.be/aD2_FzsXIAs For bonus episodes, discord access, fan Q&A, merch, Ben's monthly playlist, and to support the show: https://benandemilshow.com/ Give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed it! And please leave us a comment! It helps us! Edited by - https://www.instagram.com/conrad_roussrad/ Thumbnail by - https://www.instagram.com/cheyedewolf/ For all you audio freaks: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7M0vN85aGO0zdh62hyg03I Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ben-and-emil-show/id1693270208 Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/51280f1b-2fbd-4ea9-bdde-e96f70b5b1ae/the-ben-and-emil-show iHeart: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-ben-and-emil-show-117763570/ Follow us! TikTok - https://tiktok.com/@thebenandemilshow Instagram - https://instagram.com/benandemilshow Twitter - https://x.com/benandemilshow Ben - https://instagram.com/bencahn Emil - https://instagram.com/emilderosa https://www.youtube.com/emilderosa https://substack.com/@emilderosa Our newest acid video is out now so check it out! https://youtu.be/7vkFY3f5kkw Some other videos of ours you may enjoy: https://youtu.be/qX4pks0ASq8 https://youtu.be/_VOVxt3ZtIE https://youtu.be/5wsoc5pieuA https://youtu.be/dTbEk0pVh2w https://youtu.be/yGSs56bFzRU https://youtu.be/cIHWkY35cuc https://youtu.be/zBvVGHZBpMw https://youtu.be/1ZUWTkWV_MM https://youtu.be/_cM1XqA9n2U Chapters: 00:00: Intro 04:00: What is Muse 09:52: What it does 15:55: the Muse lover 19:30: Alex Wang's WHY 25:57: Superpower ad 27:54: Stock reactions, the lazy tax 35:30: Muse transcripts LOL 40:40: Muse negatives 47:40: Jensen Huang's comments 56:14: Tomagatchi and new glasses __ SUPERPOWER: Head to https://Superpower.com and use code BAES at checkout for $50 off your membership. Get 150+ biomarkers tested, a personalized health plan and on-demand care team. Detect early signs of 1,000+ conditions. #superpowerpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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No, silly Billy. Meta's Muse. Mark Zuckerberg's Muse. Mark Zuckerberg basically stole instinct and was like, we could do that and release it to our massive user base. I simply cannot imagine writing an article in the New York Times in front of God and everybody that says, I thought maybe I would donate to charity or buy my ill girlfriends of flowers, but the robot told me to buy a plate, so that's what I did.

Wow. Wow. They say, for us, Muse gives us back the scarcest thing we have. time with the people we love. I don't think that's true. They've been saying that to us for over a decade. We're just trying to connect people with who they love

and who they care about and give them more time to do the things that they love and they care about so that they can love who they love and care about. I would say what they're actually doing is they're offloading caring about the people they love to a thing. So it's like you don't have to care anymore. all care for you. Yeah.

And what does that leave you with if you're just now having... More time with your wife who you love. At a certain point, you get so far from it that the robot knows more about your wife than you do. God willing, she'll leave you for the robot. God willing. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Ben and a Meal show. I am Ben.

I'm Emile. And we're going to tell you what's going on. What is going on? This week, we're talking all about muse. How you can find your meal. muse, what to look for in a muse? No, silly Billy. Meta's muse. Mark Zuckerberg's muse. Do you remember the first time you found out, you found out about what a muse was?

I mean, I remember the first time listening to the band muse, circa like 2008, and I really liked them. For me, it was that bad, what's that guy's name? The movie, The Muse. Yes, with, I forget the guy's, Albert Brooks. Yes. Yeah. And it's Daryl Hannah, I think. I feel like it's Sharon Stone. I think you're correct, yeah.

And I remember asking my parents like, what is it? It's like a woman you want to have sex with. It's a lady you jerk off to, son. So that's not what this is. But they're beating everybody. They totally took everybody by surprise over the last few weeks. And we are going to tell you exactly why that is so important. What's the big deal?

What it is, what it's doing. And the other things that they just announced over the last week. Before we do that, we got the Q&A coming today. We're going to do that after hours. Ben and Emielshow.com, sign up there. Please support the show. Also, hey, yesterday we did a special edition little video about the anthropic IPO leak. So if you're an audio listener, you got to tune in the YouTube, man.

That's not going on audio. It's not going on audio. That's for the tubis out there, tubies and boobies. Oh, and check out Ben and Emil on aliens. Yeah, Ben and Emile on aliens. And if you liked it, there's a longer cut coming to the Ben and Emile show website. It should be up right now, right? Oh, yeah, yeah.

It's like twice as long. It's... People are going crazy about it. They're saying it's one of the best things we've ever done. Anyway, so... So, Muse. So, Muse. What is it exactly?

It's a little guy that lives in the computer. Mark Zuckerberg basically stole instinct and was like, we could do that and release it to our massive user base. Yeah. It launched September 8th. And if you go to their little link there, that first one, they put out a blog post by Mona Sarantacos. Ooh, great. Nice. Nice. And Christine Awad, which sounds like a slur. Kind of, right? Just A-W. Get a load of this A-Wod. Like As-Wad? It sounds like short for As-Wad, doesn't it? Anywho, it is a... I like this. So in the second little paragraph, they say,

they talk about why, it's the how and the why. They say, for us, Mews gives us back the scarcest thing we have. Time with the people we love. I don't think that's true. They've been saying that to us for over a decade. We're just trying to connect people with who they love and who they care about and give them more time to do the things that they love. and they care about so that they can love who they love and care about.

I would say what they're actually doing is they're offloading, caring about the people they love to a thing. So many of the examples which we're going to get into are, it's always like, it's like, hey, I had to do this thing for my wife. You do it. Yeah. Hey, I found these flowers that your wife likes. And the reason I know what flowers she likes is because I've been reading your text. Great job, Muse. I'm going to get a blow job tonight.

You don't have to care anymore. I'll care for you. Yeah. And what does that leave you with if you're just now having... More time with your wife who you love. I guess. Yeah. To focus on the things that matter.

At a certain point, you get so far from it that the robot knows more about your wife than you do. God willing, she'll leave you for the robot. God willing. Yeah. And I feel like when you're talking about time with loved ones, like some of the examples are specifically like... Some people don't want to spend time with your loved ones.

No, or we like doing those things. You're removing. It's like, have you ever planned a trip with your partner or friends and gotten together and been like, okay, let's talk about, let's talk about what we're going to do on the trip. Let's send each other things for weeks. And they're like, no, no, don't bother doing that. Have your muses send them to each other. And it's like, why? I like sending it to my friend.

You know, like, if me and Sarah are going on a trip, we're going to, like, we'll have a, like a session where we're just like sending each other things, looking at things, being like, ooh, this looks fun, we should do this, blah, blah. You don't want a little furry cartoon avatar with a huge butt doing it for you? It can, sure. I'm just saying, you know, if you're going to tell me

you're doing it so I can spend more time with my friends and loved ones, I'm like, no, that's not what's... When we went to Japan, me, you and Phil, had a funny little Zoom and a Google Doc and we're sending each other things. We're like, oh, we could do this, we could do that. Yeah.

Well, they go on to say, we want Mews to be maximally helpful in achieving your tasks and goals. In fact, the first line of our system prompt reads, Your purpose is to make your users life better. Okay. So it's basically an AI agent. And if you haven't, it's like, think of it as one step beyond further above the chatbots that we've all become so accustomed to over the last few. years, chat GPT and all that stuff. It can actually do things.

It's basically the first... It's been talking about. I mean, how many times have you heard the like agentic word thrown around? Yeah. They're saying we're finally here. We're finally here. And it lives in your like Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram ecosystem from Facebook. They say it has its own computer on the cloud or something.

It can like navigate the internet. You give it permissions for your credit card. your messages access to all of this stuff. You have to trust it. And it can do things like order groceries, call customer service, send emails, book appointments, and plan travel. And yeah, it runs on the Muse Spark AI model built specifically for agenic work. It's fully just the tweet where it's the guy being like, oh, dude, you got to watch it. It's on Bibo. Yeah. And it runs on the muse sparked. Yeah.

And it is essentially the same thing as instinct, which is so fucking psychotic. It now has a $10 billion valuation. I can't confirm it. I've been looking. The best I can do is there was a tweet and then there was a LinkedIn post talking about how meta had actually offered to buy

instinct for a massive amount. And instinct said, no. I can't confirm it. But it is consistent with meta's moves from, you know, for so long. They love being like, hey, we love your product. Let us buy it and incorporate it. And the company's like, no way, dude, we're doing so well. Look at how many users we have.

And meta's just like, yeah, all right. We'll just build it out on our platform. I immediately can't think of how anybody like instinct is even going to be able to compete with this because meta's already got such a head start. They've already got over a billion users throughout Instagram, Facebook, WhatsApp, they're advertising it to their existing user base. It makes the most sense if you are a person interested in this kind of thing to just go with them. Rather, when I opened WhatsApp, it literally, look, I got a little new, meet Muse, your personal AI agent, hand off everyday tasks like

managing your email, booking reservation, and tracking prices right from WhatsApp. It's a nice idea, and I haven't tried it yet, and maybe one day I will. How many people use WhatsApp and just got this message? Billion, over a billion. So it's a big, big deal because this is the first agent, the first AI agent from any of the major tech companies. They beat everybody. They beat OpenAI. They beat out Google.

They beat out Anthropic. They beat them on so many levels. And it's really, they seem to be doing a good job at it, too, which is part of the reason why the stock jumped up 25%. I mean, I said the same thing when instinct came out. I had gotten a invite to instinct because I was like, oh, you know, if we're going to be talking about these things, it would be great to try them. Yeah. There's just no way to try these things without doing the goofiest shit with your data and being like, yeah. Sure, meta.

I guess here's my medical records, my banking records. No way. Have fun in there, you little cheeky robot. Start sorting stuff out for me. Yeah. Have fun, cutie. There's no way. I won't even let Claude, like, nothing is connected.

to any of my... Nothing is connected externally. Yeah. Just no way. I mean, there's enough stories where it's like, why would I risk it? Yeah. I keep getting...

My shit must have gotten hacked somehow. I keep getting calls that say on the phone, Google, like the caller ID is from Google. Oh, I got that one. And they call twice in a row. Yeah. And then they leave a voicemail.

That's how they get you. You go, oh shit, something really must be wrong with Google. And then you pick it up. I picked it up. And they had me for a second. They had me on the line. I was like, oh, my God.

And then as soon as they said, I needed to log into something for them. I was like, brother, come on. They got me like a year and a half ago. Oh, shit. I did everything. I don't remember how they convinced me that what I was doing, I was like, this feels fine. The guy said he was from the Google Security Department. He did have an Indian accent.

I don't know if that's a positive or a negative. Because some of these scammers are in India. It's the thing. But he said that I had, I had. my account, I can't remember the details, but I had been, maybe it was Amazon. But either way, I had been hacked and they asked me to just change my password and to do like additional two-factor authentication. And I remember just like rack in my brain, I'm like, okay, if this were, if this were some kind of, you know, trick or something, surely I wouldn't be put in a position to change my

password. They're not telling me what to change it to. I was good. So, and nothing has happened. I haven't lost anything. I've since gone in and changed my password again. I don't, I don't have no. But either way, in that, in that same article that they talk about, the, I forget who's actually writing it Maria or something. She says that it, she's obviously been working with Mews behind the scenes for a while. And she said that it has managed her kids' back to school, prep by monitoring emails, school district website shit, and keeping track of all of that for her, putting dates on calendars, buying school supplies. And she said it's been a total life changer for her.

And I'm like, okay, that's the kind of thing that I think just broadly, it can probably benefit parents and stuff. But still, there, and it was like it caught some deadline for some sport, like the kid needed to be, have some paperwork filled out. And it was like, oh, hey, by the way, your son's going to miss T-ball tryouts. Deadlines like in four hours. And they filled out the forms. And yeah.

It also has a human in the loop feature that checks in with you on critical actions like before a purchase or sending an email. And that's you. That's you. You are the human. You are the human. Yeah. I just want to make clear that's not, meta does not have a human for every user that's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah.

Let's be careful before we send that one. So they launched it on specifically. September 8th. And then last week, they had their big Meta Connect 2026 where Mark Zuckerberg trots out there. And he's like, hey, everybody, and this is what we've got. Permit the Frog. Commit the Frog took over. Mark the Zuckerberg here. It's free for users. But eventually they may, they say they may take transaction cuts. It's free for users, but you get, you get limited, I think, on a lot of stuff. So you can either pay into like $20 or they're.

There's even a higher tier if you want to really, if you really want to take the governor off this thing. Yeah, and let it crank out. They've already, it seems like every day they're adding new companies that they're integrating with. They've already got Walmart, Best Buy Gap, Sephora, Instacart, Expedia, Kors, Ulta, Wayfair, Box, GitHub, Granola, Notion on the, on the, like, software side. And Shopify, too. interestingly though

Amazon has Yeah that's what I was going to say Some companies are being like No Excuse me We don't allow your little digital shoppers here Which is surprising to me We don't take kindly to clankers here

Yeah Get out of here No clinkers allowed Which I found out through There was a guy who He wrote an article For the New York Times That said

I gave Which this feels like an ad Honestly I gave my life over to Meta's AIA and was blown away. Oh, yeah. And this is honestly the kind of stuff

where I'm like, yeah, what are you? You're not giving me what you're promising. So he says, to test Mews, I experimented with it nonstop for two weeks, giving over many aspects of my life to it. I had to trust Mews with my most personal data, insane, which included connecting into my bank accounts and email. Then I had to perform dozens of day-to-day tasks, including ordering my groceries, scheduling my meetings,

and setting my fantasy football lineup. Dude. This is where I'm like, what is the point of anything? Why bother playing? Yeah. Why about the, the whole fun

is to see if you can do well, to see if you can look at stuff and go, okay, he's playing like this, I feel like blah, blah. I don't play in fantasy football. I've done it before. I know people have all kinds of like

intricate scenarios that happen if you are the, if you come in last place, because it's like, oh, you idiot. You got to go to a diner for 24 hours and eat waffles. Your brain is so bad at picking these things. How is this fun for you?

It's like cheating at golf. Like what the fuck? You're just, I mean, obviously you're playing against people, but you're cheating yourself. You're cheating yourself. Is that the same article where he meets someone off of Facebook marketplace? I think so. Yes. It's the one where he...

The agent starts... He accidentally texts the person thinking he's texting the agent. Yeah. And he is like, well, so there are some things. It's like, it all stems from this. He says, two weeks in, I found Muse to be the most useful AI app I had ever used. One clarifying moment came after I connected my credit cards to Muse. Also, you're so nuts, dude.

And asked it to track my spending in Google Sheets. I watched as it spun up tabs with hundreds of rows of data each in minutes, then flag duplicate subscriptions, which it canceled for me. Then Muse used my email to request a refund for free newspaper trial that had expired. saved me $45. Wow. That's a genuine use. Sure.

Like if you're deploying this thing to save you money, still, I wouldn't necessarily trust it with all my information in this way. But yes, so he has that $45. He asks the AI, hey, what do you think I should do with the $45 that I saved now that it knew him a little bit? And he thought it was either going to, like, suggest a charitable donation or buying his... Oh, buying his girlfriend Flowers

who was recovering from surgery. Instead he bought plates. Yeah. Like Heath Ceramics. I'm not sure what that is. The most Bay Area-ass tech thing. And it just sounds like, like, who's... I don't pay attention to ceramics.

And then so he unleashes this thing on Facebook marketplace, and it's just like haggling for him. Yeah. The... I found it interesting that the person that he ends up meeting, he asks, hey, would you ever use one of these things? and it was the person said, no, I wouldn't, I wouldn't trust it with my, with my sensitive information. The, the comments on this article are very funny, but specifically to the Facebook marketplace thing, one guy, Andy from Portland just wrote, wow, using AI to spend days badgering local artisans into giving a 50% discount on their wares. If we thought humans were lousy now, I guess we're just getting started.

That's awesome. A lot of them are very funny. But, and it's like the same. It's the same thing you would think. The top comment on the article, the most recommended comment is just so you gave meta your personal health and financial data when their main revenue stream is selling that data so you didn't have to be on hold. Sounds like an incredibly poor trade off for me. And by far my favorite one, I simply cannot imagine writing an article in the New York Times in front of God and everybody that says, I thought maybe I would donate to charity or buy my ill girlfriends of flowers. but the robot told me to buy a plate so that's what I did. Wow, wow. Yeah, fuck this guy. Well, that begs the question. I mean, I know we talked about the two developers who wrote that blog post on what they're building and a little bit of why.

But Alexander Wang, the billion-dollar man, the billion-dollar AI guy that they're paying literally that much money, three commas worth of money to come in and rock their shit. He posted a very brief thing on Twitter saying titled, Why We're Building Muse. And he talks about, and it kind of, I get what he's saying. He says, most people never say what they want. It's not because we don't want. We want fiercely and constantly. It happens in the moments before falling asleep or while daydreaming on the ride home. We want to spend more time with our families, overcome social anxiety, eat healthier,

open a bakery, build an app, or just find more moments of calls. them in a hectic life. But rarely do we get to even express these dreams? And even more rarely do they ever come true? When we can't name our dreams, we mostly can't reach them. The world is a maze of forms and gatekeepers and schedules and obstacles. And most dreams die by a thousand paper cuts long before they are said aloud. They die in the not knowing where to start and in the phone calls never made. Every unrealized want is a quiet tragedy of human potential. Now imagine every person on earth with a second mind beyond their own, a general manager whose sole job is to find out what you want and make sure it happens. Someone that hears the half sentence, I feel like there's

something more I could be doing and helps fill in the blanks. Someone that says, this is the thing you've been dreaming of your whole life. Let's go get it. Here's how. And then builds a plan, sends the email, makes the phone call, finds the funding, keeps you on schedule, clears the way, and solves all the problems it can until the human part, the wanting and the dreaming is all that's left. We have no idea what people will want. The world until now has been shaped by the small number of fanatics who have somehow found a way to make their wants real. But we've never seen humanity with every single person's agency fully switched on. Eight billion people who just need to write their dream down in order to get started making it happen. So we built

muse to help people build the world they want. Here's to wanting. Here's to dreaming. Here's to everyone. Okay, Elizabeth Holmes. This is so dramatic for a goofy little... Say it. Tech guy? No, no, no. For a goofy little... Sasquatch-looking thing?

Yeah, for a little product that you can... Well, yeah, this is the image... And he's also... So Alexander Wang, to his credit, he is putting on a master class of shit posting on Twitter after all this is launched. Just like all this... The thing I've realized in that... the past how like throughout doing the show is that tech is just out of ideas and they're basically

just like reiterating things to us and then they're in different packages it's like you know how different is this from e-commerce there was like it was like whatever three months ago or whatever because the agentic thing has been the thing on everybody's mind forever and one of these like freakish little Silicon Valley guys posted like holy shit and he basically had a little thing, like a little add-on that he attached to Slack where his employees could go in and be like, order this dish from whatever restaurant. And he's like, it's here, blah, blah, blah. And I'm just going, how different is that than pulling out fucking postmates? Truly. Yeah. How different is it? Well, because now I don't have to leave Slack.

I can do it while I'm still working. Do this schmaltzy post of like humans, what makes them human is desire. And they don't even know what they want sometimes. That's why we've built Muse. It's like, what the fuck are you talking about? I don't know. There's also some pretty evil people out there. I don't think we need 8 billion people suddenly being able to have their wildest wishes come true.

It's very strange to watch them act as if they're just like revolutionizing revolution. revolutionizing. Our lives with all of this. You know, when you're talking about the mom with our kids, I'm sure that is That's great. I love that. I'm sure that's great. I've never had kids. I have a wife. We have a shared

calendar. We add things to it. Mr. Bragger over here. Set reminders and stuff. I'm sure, you know, okay, great. I bet this can help you on those little things. Is it... Did you ever stop to think about like the New York Times guy, maybe you would benefit from having an AI generated podcast play

10 minutes worth of your daily stuff. That part was so fucking brutal in that article. He puts a little 39 seconds clip in it. Morning in San Francisco. Time to start the day. Grab your coffee, Eli. You're on your way. Seahawks scores and AI news in the mix.

SF headlines and your fitness fix. It's the morning brief. The morning brief. Your morning brief is here. Happy Wednesday, Eli. It is September 16th, and you are listening to the Morning Brief. We have a packed one, a merger across the Atlantic, a mastodont tooth in a Bay Area Creek, and the Seahawks getting a lot of love from the betting market.

Let us start with football. Seattle heads to Arizona on Sunday, and the odds makers are saying something interesting. The Seahawks opened as a 10-point favorite in the look-ahead line before. But, yeah, it's basically that dream Sam Altman was talking about of, uh, picture, you're driving along and your kids won't shut the hell up. and you don't want to talk to him. So you just have AI make you a little podcast. Did you see that?

That's the other thing, though. You don't need an agent to do that. That's what I find so odd. So many of these things I'm like, all right, sure. You could just do that with a chat pot or whatever. There's also fucking hundreds of thousands of human-made podcasts out there. Surely you can find one. Surely there's a podcast out there.

Not one that speaks about your kid's specific soccer game that day. Tiffany's got a soccer game today. We're going to be talking about the stuff. soccer game. God damn. I hope that car crashes. And I hope the kids are okay. Also, do kids really want to listen to podcasts like that? Every time I've been with my friends who have kids, the kids just are like, we want to hear that song. We've heard seven million times. Run it again. Like Cocoa Mellon, the musical. Hey, guys, we've got to take a quick break to talk about superpower. If you've been watching

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heard about superpower. Tell them the Ben and Emile show sent you to support the show. Oh, have you seen that tweet that's going viral around today about the guy who goes, boy, Apple, music and Spotify have no idea what's coming. Bro, you can now- Operating on old systems, Suno is about to blow your dick off. You can now have personalized music made by AI. You know what? Fine.

Enjoy yourself, man. If it means one less person like you at whatever concert I'm going to, just fuck off, enjoy yourself. It is scary, though, because, like, as much as we make fun of these people, like, they're often proven right. I don't know. Sure. Like, not everything is a problem that needs solving,

especially music. I mean, well, that's... Boy, this song really speaks to me, but not enough. I dare any AI company

to create a groundbreaking platform that isn't just putting creatives out of work. Every time... There was another one that just... Aren't you sick of musicians? Greedy musicians. That just came out,

that was basically like... It was basically like, oh, this is just going to put out of work every voice actor. Yeah. Yeah. I've been hearing.

AI voices on the radio a lot recently. It's very fresh. I mean, it's every other week. They're like, this changes everything. You no longer have to pay a human to do this work. Yeah. Speaking of

this changes things, let's talk about how the market reacted. Meta itself gained over 25% in the last few weeks since this all started launching. Because the stock was pretty hated. Everybody was more focused on how much money

were spending versus the limited return, especially measured against all the competition out there. It felt like, well, what do they have to show for it? And then they launch Muse Spark and then this muse thing itself. Which he said he went on and he said like in five years, every person is going to have a personal agent or whatever. Yeah. And I do also just want to point out, he's said a lot of things are going to happen. Totally. He said everyone was going to be on the Metaverse. I will. They'll say that the difference here is that he was alone in making those proclamations about the Metaverse, whereas this one, it's him and everybody else. But that doesn't mean that it's any more true. It's just that he's not alone now.

He's not alone. And yeah, I mean, I guess it depends, though. Like, it depends what he's talking about. Are they going to be, like, managing your life or have they created a new way? Because honestly, a lot of the things with LLM, these chapels, bought things. I'm like, it feels to me as if you created a new way to search. It feels like a different search engine to me. A little smarter one. It's a little personal librarian. You get to boss around. And sometimes when they show a lot of these things, I'm like, okay, so it's e-commerce, but it's different.

Yeah. So now I just type in what I want at the restaurant. Well, part of the, part of the, it wasn't just meta-stock that went up. As it turns out, human laziness is and was worth billions of dollars to other companies. What do I mean by that? Well, companies whose businesses relied in part on customers renewing, booking, buying, and forgetting things fell really hard. Planet Fitness, publicly traded stock. It's like the New York Times article guy where he was like,

it found multiple things that I double-subs for. It found a thing that I forgot to cancel. for my refund, whatever. Yes. Because those, the savings that you get that that guy gets from canceling a subscription, canceling a free trial, you name it, those savings is some other company's revenue. Sure. And that's worth a lot.

Case in point. Planet Fitness dropped over 10%. New York Times dropped 7.2%. Charles Schwab. The brokerage company dropped 6%. Allstate. The insurance company dropped 5.5%. Booking.com.

Airbnb, trip advisor all fell. Netflix fell to. Basically anything touching, insurance, banking, brokerage, telecom software, and gyms all got hit and continue to get it. Everyone's financial model is that now to just give you a free trial of something and never let you out of it. I had to go to Verizon for my phone was broken. And he was like, I wasn't paying attention. I was just trying to get my phone fixed.

And then he was like, oh, and I gave you. you've got like Verizon Care now for the next three months if you want it. But if you don't cancel it. And you've got like Google Google AI Plus, whatever. I was like, all right, I just wasn't even thinking about it.

We're giving you Google boys. It's Google for boys. And then I got home and I was like, I guarantee if I don't do anything, it's going to start charging me. Yep. I log in and I was like, this motherfucker. And I just start like canceling all these stupid ass free trials

that it would have been. made my bill at least $30 more every month. I was reading that the UK, correct me if I'm wrong if you're out there, I believe that the UK had to enact a law recently because insurance companies and any kind of recurring model, like mainly insurance, I believe, a big part of their business model became raising prices every year on existing customers without alerting their customers, without any kind of heads up just and they just kept doing it to the point where it was like, oh yeah, that's just what we do. And yeah, shit like Muse will...

I mean, I feel like that's everything with like, they say with your internet provider, they're like, oh, well, you basically got a switch every two years because you lock in the good price. And then they're like, okay, now we hit you with the real price. Yeah. And most people are too lazy to be like, I'm not switching internet provider every... But if you do it, you can pay like $50 a month. Yeah. But if you don't, they're like, it's actually a whole. $180 above for some reason.

Yeah. And if you've got an AI that can find cheaper insurance in the case of brokerages, they can move cash that's earning very little to higher yielding accounts. If it can cancel subscriptions, compare travel prices, get refunds, get rebates and all that stuff, that has a big effect on the bottom line of other companies that are offering those things and that are relying on friction. and they're relying on laziness to make money. So it's going to be really interesting to see how all this shakes out.

Yeah. And it's so far on track to be the biggest AI app ever. If you click that link, there's a graphic that someone shared. It is so far being downloaded at a faster clip than even ChatGPT when it first launched. Which was like the number with that crushed every record. Yeah. money until about at least 2028. But just to give you a clue as to what could lie ahead, the Instinct CEO has said that 50% of their transactions so far are travel related,

and they are already doing over a billion dollars a year in total volume. Not revenue just like the, hey, if you book a thousand dollar ticket through instinct, they count that. Yeah. So that's the potential good. Let's talk about that. Some of the potential good. Check this out. They had this guy on Twitter, Peter Yang shared about how Muse ordered him a cake. And it apparently, I guess you can see the... Transcript.

Yeah. Muse says, hi, I'm Haley, calling on Peter Yang's behalf. Muse has like two... It's basically they have a male and a female. It's Haley and I forget the other guys. Curiously, you don't get to pick their race. I wish you could do that. How would that help you?

I just... Maybe I... Hey, what's the default voice? Is it a white person? What does it sound like? Just saying. I'm transcribing our call for notes. I'd like to place a cake order for pickup today.

I like the recipient says, Hello? Yes. Hi, still here. I'd like to place a cake order for pickup. Yeah, what kind of cake? An eight inch chestnut cake, please. And then it says the cakes ordered

eight inch chestnut cake. with happy birthday blank on it, pick up after 3 p.m. today. Here's the price. And then scrolling down, there is a counter example. Oh, I'm sure that they said no is a different thing. Yeah. Go back, go back. There's a tweet below that where he says, counter example. Someone else posted their own interaction. Someone called Guerra's Plumbing in Englewood, Colorado. and the guy answered saying, this is Robert. And Mews says,

hi, this is Brett, calling on Enkitt Gordhonda's behalf. I'll be transcribing this call for notes. I'm looking for a quote to install three customer-supplied biday sprayers. Can you help with that? And the guy at Robert at Gwara's plumbing says, can you soak my dick?

And then Mews says, I think it's probably suck and they don't, they try not the course of it. I don't know. That's very funny. I'm just calling about the installation quote. Is there someone there who can help with plumbing pricing? And then it just doesn't continue.

I imagine he hung up. Another guy found... But they said it's really cool when it works. Half the companies hang up on my agent. Yeah. So that presents an interesting thought here. Like if you're a customer service person or anybody dealing with your customers in any meaningful way, I can't imagine how, I don't know, it would just be upsetting to me.

Yeah. Do you know what they would say, like the AI Ultras? They would say, well, the customer service people should just be deploying their agents. Right. Why are we even having them? Oh, you're pissed that I deployed a bunch of agents and it ruined your system. Why weren't you deploying agents? Yeah.

Yeah, it's just agents all the way down. Another instance, a guy said that Muse found some old subscriptions and canceled them. One guy had his internet bill lowered. But yeah, it begs the question. happens when everybody's got a little guy running around getting refunds for them on shit. I imagine the system would just get clogged. Like Alexander Wang said, a billion people all simultaneously deploying their agents to ruthlessly work around the clock to get your shit renewed or canceled or lowered, prices lowered.

That could have massive reverberating effects on the economy. If I was the most petty software engineer, I'm petty enough. I just don't have the skills. I would be creating some kind of CAPTCHA for agents that is, if you call my business and you can't prove that you're a human calling me, just disconnects. But then you're losing out on a potential sale. What if the cake person hung up and then there's, okay, I'll just go to another cake business. Everyone needs to do it. Oh, oh, oh.

I'm putting it everywhere. I've released it into the water supply. Yeah. The theoretical, the metaphorical water supply. The metaphorical water supply. I mean, that gets us into the, so we've, that's the potential good that we can all kind of grasp and see. But with that comes these potential issues. All these, if, yeah, if they got agents being deployed on the other side, then you just got agents, you know, scissoring each other,

finger blasting each other. Oh yeah, you deploy an agent that's really good at selling your agent on... You know how when you go to cancel Disney Plus or whatever or whichever one? They're like, are you sure? We're willing to throw in... Hulu. For the next two months. Yeah.

And we're dropping your price down to $21.99. And you're like, uh, maybe. But then I'm like, no, I don't watch anything on this. Plus, you can get tickets to the new Avengers buttblasters right at Disney World this summer. But now your agent is like, shit, that's kind of a good deal. What do I do? He loves butt blasters. He loves butt blasters.

And he does it. And now for the next two months, you've got a lower rate. And then it just goes back up after three months. That's what I would be doing, right? I mean, yeah, they're going to figure out how to game the agents. Which it does seem like is happening a little bit. There's this story that came out from Blue Cross Blue Shield, where they're basically talking about how it's not saving anybody any money.

It's costing them money. Because AI is deployed in hospitals. are basically spiking people's costs because they're flagging things that they normally wouldn't even hospitalize people for. And then the insurance providers are like deploying their AIs to deny care. Yeah. And it's just driving up costs for everybody. It's just creating more friction, which costs more money, which in turn will make premiums rise. Unbelievable. So they're saying a sharp increase in patients being documented.

as having complex conditions appear to have added an estimated $942 million in health care spending for Blue Cross Blue Shield companies between 23 and 2025, driving higher premiums and out-of-pocket costs for families, employers and taxpayers. Jesus Christ. There's a clear disconnect between coding and treatment. Our research shows that coding care has changed, but there is no evidence for corresponding change in care delivered. Patients often fell into higher-cost billing category after a second-second.

A condition identified in addition to the patient's primary reason for receiving care. This secondary diagnosis may be derived from single laboratory values, making it particularly well-suited for detection by AI tools. Approximately 70% of the additional costs, more than $650 million, were tied to secondary diagnoses. So it's kind of like one big WebMD where when you Google your thing is like, well, this could be cancer. So all these AIs are going, well, this could be cancer. And then the healthcare company's got to check it out and spend a ton of money on doings. Better hospitalize him.

Yeah. Yeah. His butt hurts from playing butt blasters at the new Disney Avengers butt blaster game. Better put him in the hospital. And then the insurance company is like, deny it. Yeah, deny it. We actually don't cover that kind of secondary shit. We don't cover butt blaster injuries.

Yeah. One guy, this is an interesting one. I mean, there are so many second and third order effects that you just can't even think of because you can't make this stuff up. There was a guy who was saying that Muse was accepting lowball prices on Facebook Marketplace. Like people would offer, because, you know, you give it the, you give it the directive of sell my shit on Facebook Marketplace. And then one guy's like, I'll take it for a dollar. And then Muse is like, okay, here's the address. So he's got strangers showing up to his house.

What if you were a, what if you were, you know, a vulnerable person? And you had strangers showing up at your house. Oh, dude, you've... Sorry, my computer sent you here. I'm so sorry about that. These people have given this thing way too much data about themselves. It's absolutely unbelievable. I like this one. There's an anecdote from this woman named Lauren Wilford is replying to a tweet that says,

A world where everyone has a perfectly rational, tireless optimizer working on their behalf is much more adversarial than people realize. A lot of our existing infrastructure will not survive this transition. I mean, that's a bit of a doomer take, but this person is correct. A tireless optimizer working on your behalf is much more adversarial than people realize.

Case in point, this woman, Lauren Wilford, says, I work at a restaurant that does events, and we received some challenging last-minute requests from a client. We scrambled to fill them. I realized later that these requests were likely made by an AI agent and that the human client might not have personally cared. This felt bad. She goes on to say, what felt bad about it was realizing that I was throwing myself at a problem to make a human client happy. But it's possible it wasn't even really a problem to the human. It's highly possible

that the robot prompted needless work on my part in the name of optimizing. Oh my God. She needs to read Alexander Wanks Post. Don't you get it? Humans don't even know what they want. That person wanted to spend more time with people they care about. That person was spending time with their family. family and friends, you idiot. Yeah. She says, it changes the calculus entirely if I realize that any given ask

might be invented to make the agent looking like they are a tireless advocate and an optimizer for their user. If a human client asks if we can do something unusual or off many for them, I'm going to assume they have a good reason

and they know it's asking us to go above and beyond. This is different from an agent, blue-skyeing about what would be best for their user in some ideal world. And she finally says, now knowing that this is a possibility, it inherently makes me more on guard against special requests from clients, especially ones delivered over email. I feel like I now have to vet how

serious they are and whether they really came from a person and whether it's a need or a nice to have. This is just one example, but I think this will happen all over in every sector. People will be flooded with agents advocating for or negotiating for their users and social trust will degrade proportionately. People will play harder ball if everyone learns the trick. what Lauren's problem is? She didn't deploy her own agent to argue on her behalf. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe Lauren, maybe you need to get a little Thickham's looking muse, freaking avatar. I mean, I think that's 100% going to happen. We talked about it a little bit with the instinct stuff where it's like, you know, people just clogging up resi and trying to get hard to get

reservations. There was the story about the guy who was bumping. He built his, own agent. This was, I think, on the open claw platform. Oh, yeah. Remember that? And he was bumping people from exercise classes he wanted to go to because his agent found out that there was the program wasn't super secure, so it could

easily just access the back end and be like, oh, we'll just kick a person off and get my guy in here. Because my guy's most important. I mean, I've dealt with it on just stupid little citywide reservation sites. that are for booking tennis courts.

They've now built, they've now built little platforms that you have to go through if you want your, it's so stupid. You're just creating problems. Like problems that were solved, right? We already had platforms. If you wanted to book a exercise class,

you no longer had to be there in person. You no longer had to call the place. You could just go on their website and book it. But now they're like, actually, it's this new thing that we invented. where you can just kick people off. You're still doing the same thing. You're going to your agent be like,

book me my exercise class. Instead of using the system you're supposed to use, you're just throwing chaos into the system. Yeah. I love that for these tech overlords, their lives are so charmed that their biggest issue is just like, isn't booking a restaurant reservation such a bitch? Isn't booking like a massage or a facial or just,

It's all booking stuff. It's all fucking appointments. Get your friggin' act together. Just fucking, I don't know, hire a 20-year-old. Jesus, God. This clip has been going around everywhere. And people are talking about what people are focused on, and even in the tweet, he says that Jensen Wong says basic math is being forgotten.

Does it matter? This is in his recent interview with Ezra Klein. I found it so much more fascinating at the, at the back half. So just play it. I mean, it's obviously annoying watching him talk about how these skills aren't useful to people anymore. Fascinate by this. This is a study on AI in schooling out of China. It looked at 26,000 students, grade 7 to 12, and they had staggered AI adoptions.

You can kind of see what was happening. And what I found was, quote, AI adoption raises homework scores by 18%. Great. Reduces completion time by 30%, so they get their homework done faster. And then lowers monthly exam scores by 20% within six months. high-stakes entrance exam scores fall by 18 and 24 percent, with a full penalty emerging only after about two years. So the message of this research out of China,

where you were seeing a lot of kids using AI to kind of help them, was that when they were using the AI, they were getting things done faster. But it turned out that the skills they were learning were not holding, that their actual personal performance, at least in the way we traditionally measure it, was degrading.

Yeah. What do you think when you hear that? I think the last part, I completely agree. Try to get a kid to do long division right now. You know, the multiplication table is starting to be forgotten. Doing square roots. My goodness. I mean, he's just basic math is being forgotten.

Doesn't matter. That's my... Pause it for one second? So he's like, which I find this alarming. He thinks it doesn't matter. You know, people are pointing out that, yeah, this is kind of fucked up that this guy is like, basic human skills that we have are going to be forgotten.

It doesn't matter. Well, he's talking about like the testing. I mean, I kind of get... No, no, it's not testing, though. It's that they actually don't have the skill anymore. And he's even... And he's saying, I admit it. Try to get a kid to do these things.

They can't do them. Those were things I could do as a child. Yeah. Those were things you could probably do as a child. Long division. I can still do Long Division, bitch. Square roots? No. But now, listen to his reasoning

for why this matters. Yeah. I don't think it does. But there must be some set of skills that matter. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But maybe not those. We're gonna discover new ones. Just maybe not those.

There are a lot of skills that don't matter. You know, people don't, I mean, my first confession, I actually don't know my address. And I, and every- I don't really believe that to be true. It's completely true. Huh? And Janine will tell you, and Lori will tell you.

Here, yeah, the rest of the- No, no, keep going, please. It was a few years ago. and they needed my zip code. And I panic. I didn't know my zip code. I don't know my telephone number, but I forget these things.

That's basically, I'm just too busy thinking about chips. When you're bringing up these, like, charmed tech guys, I mean, these are the guys telling us, like, we don't know the things we want. This is probably one of the most powerful men in the world right now. And he's either lying to soften the blow of this thing he's trying to sell you,

or he doesn't. know his address. He doesn't know his zip code. He doesn't know his own telephone number. Yeah. I don't know. Call 100 Jensen Wong. What is worse? Yeah. If he's lying to soften the blow of this new era he's trying to usher in where you have a soft, smooth brain that doesn't, that doesn't have skills that, like, like recall that that every other human used to be able to do? Or is it worse if this guy genuinely doesn't know his telephone number? And we're all just going like, whatever Jensen says, baby. I mean, okay, so I listened to that entire interview and a big chunk of it was, or a good chunk of it, was Ezra Klein pointing out that, yeah, these students, not just in China, but here in the United States are using AI to get through the, what would you call? Not the rigors of school, but just the, like to help with Helmarks. The busy work. Yeah, how to studying and just get it done.

But I wouldn't call that. get it done. But I wouldn't call it. That's, I think calling it busy work is a well, I'm talking about through the student's eyes. That's how they view it. Sure. They're like, I got to get this task done so that I can. They're not learning. If you've ever seen a

child's, a young child's homework, it's to get them to like, of course. Do this movement and do this yeah, build this skill. But here, look at me.

here I am being pro homework. To Jensen's point, I think obviously there's a lot that can be gleaned from it. But my part, partly my interpretation is, sure, there is some, because if you were to look at homework or tests from 100 years ago, so much of that skill set is no longer needed. It's way, way, have you ever seen any of that shit? That's from 100 years ago, no. Oh, they're like impossible. They're so hard. I mean, Jesus, I truly don't know what they were feeding us or feeding people back then.

But it's, and I think some of it, you know, you can look at like a physical. I understand the argument of like, oh, wow, they're using a calculator. That's stuff that we used to be able to do easily with whatever. I always just, and I remember the same thing is one day you're not going to have a calculator. What if you're at work where, you know, you're going to need this? And it's like, hey, baby, the matter where you work, you're going to have access to a calculator. But at the same time, I do think there's a... I would always think about a saw type situation

where it's like, you've got to do a long division. I'm gonna fucking kill you. That's what you're right? No calculators allowed. You better hurry up, right? I'm gonna cut off your butt. Do you know the square root of 64? You want to play, you want to do math homework?

That's not really sounds like. I've never seen that shit. I feel like you're doing like a sling blade. he doesn't know how to do fucking math for shit. He can't even decide what biscuits to order. What were you going to say? I'm sorry. Jensen Wong and then test stuff.

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I just, we said it all, but yeah, I find it a little alarming. It's hard to not take it all into totality to have just, it feels like they do want a, dumber populace and to hand off more and more of your agency to, to these people. I don't know about, I'm sure things have changed,

obviously in the past. I don't know about these tests from 100 years ago or whatever, but it feels deeper than that, right? Like, kids can't, you know, and this is not AI. This has been happening forever. It just feels like this is a outgrowth

from all of this where attention spans are shot. Kids can't read. Teachers are talking about how they have to, they have to assign smaller, easier to read passages. They talk about just the complete inability, which this is, okay, fine. You know, I think the math thing is a bit easier for people to get on board with because they're like, yeah, you know, I could have a job that doesn't require long division. What do I care?

But just what life is going to require you to not be able to deal with a, passage of words and not pull out... Comprehension. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that is a big worry of, like, turning people into beings that don't know how to comprehend things. That is... It's foundational, I think, is ultimately... I mean, not like math necessarily relates to reading comprehension, but it does serve a foundational understanding of just how the world

works and how, yeah, simple math and Jesus. I mean, people's lives. lack of understanding about statistics has proven to be detrimental because a populace that doesn't understand these simple concepts can be very easy to manipulate. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, well, that's not all, folks, because Mark Zuckerberg also released a very, very, very smart move. They released a device for the muse also.

They call it the muse charm. If you click that link, you can see it. It is a Tomogachi-like thing. I remember my Tomogachi. Oh, I can't wait for a bunch of adults with their little tomagachis. Their little... Mews. Their little safety tomagachi to...

Boy, that is a perfect hand. Whoever that hand model is, if that is, in fact, a real human hand. Gorgeous. AI can create hands now. You don't even need hand models. Yeah, wow. I mean, so their whole thing, their whole push with this is that you're not going to need, you're not going to need to visually interact with this.

You're going to be able to do it with just voice. It's going to be voice activated. They've even got these new Rayban sunglasses that are only, or glasses that are audio only. See the meta, Metaband. Yeah, they have no cameras. Rayban meta audio, just audio. So you can talk to it. So you guys can't call them creeper glasses anymore.

Yeah. They've got. This one's just listening to you at all times. They've got. hearing assistance, which is good for my deaf uncle Jeff, who probably wouldn't be able to figure out these things. This is,

the one bummer to me is with the like creeper glasses thing, is that these things, I know people who have disabilities, whether it's vision impairment, whatever, who have found a great deal of value from tools like this.

And it does suck that it's, there's a lot of moron, content creation people just yeah people doing creepy and stupid things when these things can genuinely change people's lives it is very unfortunate yeah uh the

the charm thing is voice activated palm size you're meant to talk to it without your phone it's the size of an airpod case it's got a two inch touchscreen and 5G connect connectivity and then the biggest thing arguably is they came out with

new VR glasses so I'm probably going to buy one of these. You're going to buy it. I had the meta quest. I was really impressed by it, but it was also back when I wore glasses, so it kind of made me feel a little ill. It was like so immersive that you couldn't fucking,

you just couldn't, you know. Just search for, is it meta glasses? No, I would search for the new meta VR glasses, just Google. They're 1299. They weigh 100 grams, which is, five times lighter than the quest. Five times lighter than the quest. Well, that's a big deal because you probably

never tried it. I've tried it. Okay, so this thing's being that much lighter is really impressive. In the way they do that, they move. I mean, just from this picture, it looks way more comfortable than wearing the quest. Oh, yeah. Because it doesn't fucking... Part of it is that there's leaks, there's light leaks,

which is meant to actually make it better. It's sort of like a combo, AR, VR, type situation. It's available in sports. It's got a 5K display. The batteries move to a puck that you clip to yourself or put in your pocket

instead of putting it on your face. From their promotional materials, it looks like they figured out a way better, what the, what is the Apple Vision? Yeah, the Vision Quest or whatever, quest, yeah.

Because again, that thing is fully just gaudy. They're like, not even gaudy, they're just like, hey, did you, have you ever been skiing

and thought, ski goggles aren't heavy enough? Yeah. Well, we've got something for you. And I wish I could wear these at home. Yeah, it can turn any flat surface into a keyboard or display. It connects with video apps like YouTube, HBO and stuff. So you can, yeah, like be at the airport or wherever.

You can just have screens up. It uses hands and eyes as controllers. So there are no controllers. Your hands and your eyes are the controllers. Oh, and check this out. Oh, my God, you guys. The games that they've got on these things? Of course, they've got Beat Sabre.

Everybody's favorite game that everybody is still playing all the fucking time. Well, no, I don't even play anymore. I just have my muse that I've connected to one of those flies that can play Beat Sabre do it for me and it's just as satisfying.

Yeah, they've got new titles including Card Mata, dice thrown digital, Dragon Grove. They've got Dragon Grove? They've got Phoenix Wright, Ace Attorney, Dual Destinies. Did you say Phoenix, Reich? Phoenix.

supernatural, Tetris effect, mixed realities. Ooh. And everyone's favorite, two-point hospital. What the fuck is two-point hospital? Muse. It's a console game. Set my fantasy football lineup for me? It was, you get to cure peculiar illnesses and manage troublesome staff as you spread

your budding health care. All games now are just like, hey, you want to work a tedious job, but in a game? Dude, truly, I was with my friend and his kid was playing a gas station VR game. You just, I'm not joking, dude, it's just never ending. Like, new car pulls up, you fill it with gas, new car. I was going, let's just get this kid a job.

I mean, he'll love it. Oh, I guess Phoenix Wright, Ace Attorney, it looks like some kind of anime game. It's a visual novel and adventure video game developed and published by Capcom. set during a period known as the dark age of the law, attorney Phoenix Wright returns to the courtroom after an eight-year absence following a catastrophic bombing at the courthouse.

Jesus Christ, man. Jesus Christ is right. All right. So to round it out, yeah. Mark Zuckerberg thinks everybody's going to have an AI assistant in the next five years. And the other big news, they just launched this Muse Enterprise platform to bring all things muse to, uh, yeah, he just announced it. We believe super intelligence will create significant new opportunities for all people and

businesses. I can't do his voice. Meta already serves billions of people at scale and helps hundreds of millions of businesses reach consumers. Today we're starting the next major pillar of our business, meta enterprise platform to help businesses use AI to grow and transform in new ways as well. I mean, man, the stock seems like it's a freaking bargain if all, if any of this stuff comes to fruition because they're...

Well, that's the point. They're truly taking on so much. Yeah. God bless them. Yeah, God bless him. Boy, howdy. So... Let us know what you're having your muse do for you.

Yeah. What's your muse do for you, gang? Are you going to use one of these... Set my fantasy football line up so I can play Hospital 2.0? By my way, flowers so I can... play card matta. Ignore my son for me. Respond to my stupid son's text so I can...

Plan all my upcoming travel so I can play Phoenix Wright. Yeah. I used to journey, dual destinies. You show up for your trip to Spain and you're just like in the worst accommodations. Oh, why did I spend so much time? Playing two point hospital. Playing two point hospital. Anyway, gang.

we're done folks we'll see you in the bonus Ben and Amelso.com thanks so much for tuning in and we love you and see you next week coming up on this week's episode of Ben and Amel Show.com

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And so I was like, oh, yeah, I didn't read it out to you because I didn't know what it was. Oh my God. And so we went up and I was like, can we change our tickets to this? We literally got out of the movie. I was like, I wish we saw Hot Chan Shake your booty. This movie fucking bites. This is really beautiful. People wanted us to chime in on this because it's, yeah, there were a few comments.

And I got some DMs. Oh, funny. Saying like, hey, I would love to hear you talk about the. If you scroll up so, oh, can you not scroll up? I don't know, maybe certain things went too far with, people just get wrapped up in this ship. With some good intentions around stuff and it became a hyper, I don't know.

I really don't know. It's hard for me to imagine people like this to put so much, to write some of these comments. They're hateful people. They're hateful. Right. And to be so. to hold yourself out as so like, well, I'm...

I'm good and virtuous. Yes. And then be like, I hope your business gets firebombed. You're like, what is your fucking... Where is your moral compass? I don't understand. It's like... But I would also feel like...

I don't think I'd ever... Fuck, I wish the guy didn't come at me and I had to defend myself. It's manslaughter versus homicide. And then he's got his wife and kids. Oh, yeah. Well. But then you discover that his wife...

wife was actually relieved and maybe she thanks you used to beat his wife and kids I saved the wife and kids I'm a hero what about his second family that he was actually very good to oh he was good to the season in January he cheated on the first wife and he's technically actually cheating on both they're both cheating

they'd be cheating on both I'm a hero again he also was a tax he was behind on his taxes he's not I'm a hero he was a pedophile I'm a hero how many pedophiles are there

How many pedophiles are there?