The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 49: RIP to the baddest chainsmoker

Episode Date: May 23, 2024

We lost a big one, guys. A true legend. Above all else...a chainsmoker. We take a moment this week to talk about Jim Simons, who he was, and why you should care. Then we've also got a couple young guys who died suddenly at Bank of America, which is...bad. But anyway then we're talkin about HIMS now offering GLP-1 drugs, and of course, finally, we gotta talk about the ongoing drama over at OpenAI. Sam Altman is clearly a little drama slut. Leave a comment to be featured as the comment of the week next week! And also, like this video! Thank you! Head to https://benandemilshow.com for this week's bonus episode and to support the show :) Also the Chase Sapphire sign up bonus is temporarily up to 75,000 points! Get it while it's high! Sign up at https://thecreditcardlist.com Hat tip to Sigal Samuel and her article on OpenAI: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2024/5/17/24158403/openai-resignations-ai-safety-ilya-sutskever-jan-leike-artificial-intelligence __ Sign up for Moomoo and get free stocks! Click the link to get a "Mag 7" fractional share bundle for deposits or 1.5% Cash Reward match ($300 max) on transfers: https://j.moomoo.com/00MbzJ __ Watch the Meatball Special 3 here: https://youtu.be/5w-ZnMiihmQ We're so done with Jules Terpak: https://youtu.be/NF8VcDr_ggs Watch the Taco Bell Taste Test here: https://youtu.be/5wsoc5pieuA This episode (and every episode) was masterfully edited by Dillon Moore. Check him out at https://www.dillonmoore.co and @ dillonmoore on IG We're on instagram. @ benandemilshow @ bencahn @ emilderosa and @ dillonmoore Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey, everybody. Welcome to episode 49. I apologize in advance for how I look and sound. Don't apologize to anybody. I'm a little under the weather. I did take some day quill just to see what would happen. How's that happening? How's that working? I can't remember if, I can't remember what it does to me. I can't remember if it, like, makes me high or? It definitely doesn't. It's probably just some, like, day quill? The A-A-A-A-A-Y? It's probably just some, like, you know, a Cetaminifin? yeah like pain killer and then yeah oh yeah kill all my pain baby hey we were just some caffeine or something yeah that be cool so we were just talking folks and um we decided that we're going to do a comment of the week so get get on get on youtube leave a comment also smash that thumbs up

button we got i also worry about that oh yeah there's going to be some people trying too hard yeah well don't don't try too hard just do we're going to pick yeah don't don't try too hard we're It's going to make a genuine comment. Unless you really make us bust up. But we've got pretty good radar for TriHearts. And we don't like them here at the Ben and Emile show. So the first one, you know, I just have to read it because I did take a screenshot. Oh, so you already have one. I got it. Yeah, they said, um, he said last week, this person whose username is dash JY6. Y I. The RFK impression was rude. Get better at the RFK. impression or don't do it. He needs to see your early, he's not familiar with your earlier work.

Because even I commented there was maybe, it wasn't your best. Well, did you see, speaking of RFK, did you see what he just tweeted today? No, I don't follow this man. Okay, I'm not going to do the impression. Great. But he tweeted, I'm very aware of what the average retail investor has been saying about the need for greater transparency in our markets, stronger regulatory oversight and blah, blah, blah. To match with action with words, I just, invested $24,000 in GameStop from the fees I earned from suing Monsanto for their knowingly poisoning our soil and causing cancer. I love the idea of making Monsanto support GME and the apes. We need a free and fair market. Let's punish predatory shortselling to

the moon. By the way, I ride with you and I'm not leaving. No way. Look at this fucking an image, dude. For the audio listener, it is the iconic photo of RFK with his hawk, because he's a hawk, falconer, he's a falconer. And it's a, I can't wait for this guy to go away. And behind him is an ape. Or maybe the best we can hope for is that he wins and then he goes the way of his uncle or something. And then I get, I get brought on to SNL to do his impression. Well, and so behind him is an ape from Planet of the Apes holding a falcon also, and it just says apes together strong. I just found that un-effing believable. It's pretty good. What a way to kick off this episode. We got a juicy one. Wait, when did he post

that? He posted it this morning. Today, for us, two days ago for you, and while he's looking that up, well, he's definitely going to lose his money. We've got, we've got a great, we've got a great episode for you. I hope Cheryl Hines is getting good residuals on curb. We're going to be talking. to sell a Martha's Vineyard House or something. God forbid. We're going to be talking about a couple of people who died. And we got hymns offering cheap OZempic and more. Right in time for the summer, baby.

Memorial Day weekends on Monday. I am so excited that I've been taking such good care of myself. You've been blasting yourself with Ozmpic. Oh, man. I'm, I'm ready. Aside from the bruises in my, in my belly, in my abdomen, I'm ready for that beach. You look tan as hell. Do I? What's your problem? You know, I played tennis. It could be the tennis and yesterday and the day before. It could be the tennis. Jeez, my man's got, my man's got a problem. I played my first,

I played my first, I joined a league. I played my first match on Sunday. I'll tell you about it in the bonus. Okay, yeah, that's a good idea. All right. So let's get into it. Also, just a couple of things. Gang, that, that, uh, the Chase Sapphire preferred credit card bonus is temporarily up from 50,000 points. No, it's usually 60K. Excuse me. Now it's 75K. Excuse me. Now it's 75K. I, uh, I've been trying to get people to get it and I was like, hold off because it usually bumps up. It bumps up. I've, I've sent out texts. It used to, it used to be, I remember. I remember. I remember getting one where the sign-up bonus was 100,000 points. I've seen 80 and I've seen 100, but not in a long time.

Yeah, it's far and few between. But if you go to the credit card list.com... 75's still pretty great. I still get people DMing me. I got one over the weekend. Hey, what's the name of that credit card website? And I just... I don't know if they're trolling me.

I think they are. Because remember that time we announced the new website, our new website, and the top comment was, yeah, but when does the credit card list.com go live? Oh, that's funny. I was like, oh, it's been live if you just follow. Yeah. And they were like, you absolute dunce. Yeah.

Hey, did you hear, did you see the thing yesterday about microplastics being found in 100% of the 23 testicles that they tested? No. And 47 of the dog testicles that they tested. I'm glad they're testing the dogs too. Yeah, microplastics were found in 100% of them. Not mine, though. I mean, that's a pretty small sample size, though. Well, I mean, I don't know how big they're ball.

were but no the 23 people oh yeah yeah but yeah that is a pretty small plastic er it feels it feels pretty shitty to i don't know and at first i thought oh that's an odd number of testicles 46 i i don't think it's 23 men it's just 23 testicles but then i was like oh but they only have to test one ball they don't kind of do both of them i would test they don't dual wield the needles and i don't know how did it either. But it feels disingenuous to be like 100% of testicles have microplastics. We tested 23 people.

Yeah, and 47 dogs. It's like me asking, do you like pizza? And you're like, yes. And I'm like 100% of people like pizza. Yeah, it's like the 9 out of 10 dentists. There's always a holdout with the dentists. Yeah, the one is just that kook guy who's also, God, I think I've got some heartburn kicking in right now.

I just got a berry smoothie for like quasi lunch. and that's man a lot of berries gives you a heartburn speaking of that speaking of what our heart burns for well there's some good news that i actually saw also yesterday target is lowering prices on five thousand items but i went through and i looked at some of them one of them they dropped the price by of whatever it was by like 30 cents yeah like suck my ass come on so that was the good news well five thousand items is nothing to sneeze at but it's kind of interesting that companies or at least this one is i mean taking inflation into their own hands is what i was going to say but then they already had inflation in their own hands like a lot of it is due to corporate

greed yeah well because also they're like okay fine we'll drop it back down yeah they they it's been months that their sales have been floundering so they're kind of like all right lower prices and i think McDonald's is also getting in the game with like five dollar value meal and walmart too something, some shit like that. Anyway, all right, death. It comes for us all. Not me. Not you. My time, I mean, we all have an invisible clock over our heads that's counting down. And we have no idea how much. Mine could have hours on it. I don't know. I think about that constantly. I'm like, today could be the day. It's scary. Yeah. Like there's a, there is a timer above everybody's head you can't see and this this uh this gentleman by the name of jim simons boy his clock had

89 years on it what a what a lucky guy i'm pretty sure he died at 86 86 it had 86 what did i say i said 89 i said 86 you said 89 uh we can check the tape but i'm pretty sure i said 86 but so who's jim simons an absolute titan in the industry yeah he uh he was he was named the the the most successful hedge fund manager of all time. He was the founder of Renaissance Technologies and the Medallion Hedge Fund, and he died with a net worth of $31.4 billion. Guy went to MIT. He was like a math whiz. And then after he graduated MIT, he said, hey, math is cool and all, but I'm going to hop on a motor scooter with a couple of my homies and drive down to Columbia. So that's what he did. Not the school. No, down to the country.

of Columbia on a little motor scooter all the way from Boston. And then when he was done... It would have been less impressive if it was the school. Yeah, it was been like, oh, you just skipped like across state lines. Good for you, sir. And then he went to Berkeley and got his PhD in mathematics. And he ended up contributing massively to like modern physics, geometry, and topology. Yeah, he had a pretty impressive academic career.

When I was looking at this guy's Wikipedia, and looking through some of these math concepts, I've never felt dumber in my adult life. Yeah. Especially like topology. It's there, and it showed like a, he ended up coming up with some,

um, his own math theory with some other guy called the Churn Simon's theory. And I was reading about it. And I couldn't make it past two sentences before it's like, it's referencing other things that you have to understand before you understand. It's just, It's above our pay grade, that's for sure.

Oh, God, man. It's insane. These math nerds. But so he leaves his academic career behind. He says, that was fun. And what's he do? He goes to the NSA to crack codes and ciphers, which is also, I looked up one of the,

there was like some nefarious sounding cipher that IBM. He's cracking Soviet codes. Mm, that's what it was. And then he gets, he actually gets discharged from that for being vocally against against the Vietnam. more, yeah. So then in 1988, he started this thing called the Medallion Fund and earned over a hundred billion dollars in trading profits, all thanks to math. He was, he, I don't know if he's would be considered like a pioneer of quant. I think he definitely would. Yeah? Yeah, probably. I mean,

he talks about like how his biggest thing was not letting people know about what they were doing. I think they were one of the only people doing it. And now it's like, that, that's, that's, It's the whole game. Yeah. It's people having these deep algorithms and stuff. Yeah, he said his biggest edge was people didn't have the ability to do what they were doing. Yeah. I really, man, it would be so nice to sit down with someone like this.

And so people know, I mean, they were wildly successful. They're talking about 66% average annual return. Yeah, even in the, even during the big crashes in like the dot-combo. in the housing crisis. Well, that's just the average throughout the entire period. Which is tremendous. I mean, it's insane how much money this guy made. I thought that this was fun.

In 2006, he was named the financial engineer of the year by, can you guess who? The financial engineer of the year. George Bush. No, the International Association of Financial Engineers. Named him the financial engineer of the. year. I guess that makes more sense than... What a dorky-ass institution, the International Association of Financial Engineering.

We also failed to mention that this guy was ripping darts the entire time. The entire time, he was a chain smoker. Burning him down. Yeah, he also, I've got a list of fun facts. It really makes you wonder. He didn't wear socks. He paid one of the... I'm taking my socks off.

I'm wearing flip-flops every time I come over here. He paid one of the biggest IRS back tax dispute. in history because in 2021, because I believe it was in 2016, his fund was using some, they were just gaming the system and using their math genius to use complex options shit to disguise short-term gains as long-term positions so that they would effectively pay a lower tax rate, and they ended up owing billions of dollars in back taxes. which you know he paid him and uh he yeah he has his own math theory called churn simon's theory that he discovered with this other person shin shin shin chen churn or something like that he

independently discovered zeno's paradox when he was like four yeah which i don't understand i read that and i was just like what what are you talking about what do you mean a four year old well because he he independently like stumbled upon the same thing because i guess his dad said hey, we got to go stop at the gas station to get gas. And little four-year-old Jim Simon says, well, if you had half of the gas, half of the gas in the tank, you wouldn't need to stop. And then if you had half of that half, you wouldn't need to stop. And if you had half, he basically realized that if you keep having a half, it goes infinite. I know. Come on. I still think it's interesting. You know, a lot of kids say a lot of dumb shit. That sounds like an

annoying kid. I remember thinking, I mean, just to contrast with my dumb ass thinking when I was a kid was, how does anybody ever die of thirst when you've got water right in your mouth? Your body just makes water. It's in there in your mouth. I thought saliva was just water. It's not a bad little kid thought. No. And then I remember one time. But when you died, I wouldn't go, he ended up penit. He, at four, he thought of the, uh, unlimited, um, unlimited water supply body theory. Yeah. I do remember thinking, I remember one time we were coming home from like McDonald's or something and I thought, I'm not going to swallow. I'm going to see how much water I can build up in my mouth. And by the time we got home, I was just like, well,

spit hold, spit out. Yeah, it was disgusting. That was a stinky little sticky kid. We were all stinky little sticky kids, weren't we folks? Hey, leave a comment. If you were a stinky little sticky kid. I bet you were sticky as hell, weren't you? No, no, no. Yeah, you were, dude. I had a just per... I don't know if my lips were always chapped, but my mouth, around my mouth, was just always red.

I have not experienced chapped lips like I would get when I was a kid. I don't know what was wrong. I remember having to just, like, put Vaseline all over. Especially in the winters. I mean, you grew up in Southern California, but my God, I just... And it's just all red. And I remember even just as sleep, I'd have to cover it in Vasling. My asshole mom lied to my brothers and I.

We would go, we'd be out, whatever. And if we had chap lips, we'd ask her mom, like, hey, can you give me some chapstick? And I remember she handed us her little tube, but it wasn't branded. It was just like a black tube. And I remember being like, this doesn't look or smell like. It was lipstick. It was fucking lip gloss. Lip gloss.

She was giving it so me and my brothers were all walking around with the most kissable lips. Kissible, giving pedophiles a run for it. And, yeah, and I wouldn't put two and two together until much, much later that she was giving us a lip gloss. Yes, thanks a lot, Mom. Dick. Is there anything else you wanted to run through before we... Oh, since we were talking about this guy being a trader,

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And then so the other thing, because we were talking about death, there's... Talking about bankers dying. Yeah. This isn't a fun story. But so these two guys from Bank of America just up and died in the last month. And it caused, it prompted a lot of these junior bankers to like band together and go essentially on strike. I don't know. Did they ever actually do it?

Did they go on strike that one day? No, they didn't do it. But not just died. Died of like heart attacks or... in the past, they were talking about people who died of, like, stress-induced epileptic seizures, and obviously that leads to people talking about, you know, the grueling nature of the industry. Yeah, last Thursday, there was this 25-year-old London-based trader named Adnan Dumec. He died of a heart attack, and he was, I guess he was just playing a game of, playing a game of soccer just before,

and was also an amateur hockey player. So I don't know if that's related to his work. Right. And then there was another one, a 35-year-old New York guy, Leo Luchinus, died of acute coronary artery thrombosis. Been looking to leave his 100-hour-a-week job. He was a former Green Beret, too. So you know he was tough and he could handle some shit. Well, so, I mean... But he died working on a $2 billion merger of some small banks? Apparently that's the, uh, that's the like really grueling...

The small little mergers? No, the merger and acquisitions is... that um they just they spend all their time what the fuck are they doing working out tiny little details well so but that's the thing someone posted what they wanted to strike for and i mean you know i it pains me to give any sympathy to um to bankers here but my god they're such like modest like can we please just leave this job i mean so one of the so these are some of the demands. New proactive junior policies are put in place, including the following. Maximum hour cap of 100 hours for any single week. If that cap is met in a given week, the junior in

question shall work no more than 60 hours the following week. So if you worked 100 hours last week, they're like, okay, you get to only work 60. 60 hours this week. But next week, you can do 100 again. And then on a monthly basis, no junior should average more than 80 hours per week. All juniors should get minimum one weekend off a month and no more than two Saturday exceptions in a month. Jesus Christ, man. That's depressing as hell. Have you ever seen the Nicholas Cage movie Family Man? Yes. I love that movie. It's great. Not to be confused with the Nicholas Cage movie, The Weatherman? The Weatherman is totally different. Yeah. Very depressing. I mean,

well, family man, he's married to Tia Leone. In an alternate world. Yes. Oh, right. Don Cheadle gives him a glimpse. He wakes up on Christmas. He wakes up. Yeah. He's on Christmas, he's got it. He's got it all. He's a, he's a New York high-flying investment. banker. He's single. He drives a Ferrari. And then he bumps into Don Cheadle on Christmas Eve and Don Cheadle like steals his car or something. And that says, hey, man, I'm going to give you a glimpse into what your life could have looked like if you married your like high school sweetheart because he ditched her. He said, see it, Toots. I'm going to go be a big hot shot on Wall Street. I'm going to go be a big hot shot. I'm going to work 120 hours a week. Yeah. I don't understand

these kind of things in movies where lovers part ways and then they lose contact. Like in... Well, this was probably in 1997. True. You could still pick up the fucking phone

make a call, you know? I bet it was probably so easy to lose track of people. True. You don't have a, you don't have a cell phone number that... I've had the same cell phone number

since I was fucking whenever I got a phone, 16, 15. Same. If you move, All of a sudden, they, like, come and install a landline. You're like, okay, here's your new number. Or I think of, what's that Hollywood movie with Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone?

La La Land. La Land. Love that movie. But when she moves away to Paris, it's like, oh, you got to give it your, they don't talk for like five years. Yeah, but that movie takes place in like 1931, I think. Are you kidding? It's a like old-timey jazz movie. did you have you seen the movie yeah it does not very much does not take place in 1931 oh were you

high during the movie on the one-on-one freeway yeah there's a musical number on the fucking yeah yeah yeah no it it doesn't take place it is funny how in that movie he's like jazz is the biggest it's the well they make it seem like you can just pop around and just messing around I know yeah they make it seem like you can just bop around all these iconic LA things and have it be a romantic. Like they go across the Colorado Street Bridge in Pasadena. Like on a, on an, it just looks like, oh, we're having an evening stroll. It's like, just to get there would be such a fucking jaunt. Then you got a park. Then you walk and it's just like, okay, we're walking across this bridge where a bunch of people have committed suicide. That's why the fences are so high. Yeah. Well, they took down the fences for the movie.

But, um, yeah. We drove over it recently. And I was like, God damn, they really want to stop people from going. Yeah, but he, they fucking, he goes to, she goes off to, she fucks off to Paris. And I understand you got to like really concentrate on this movie you've been cast in. But surely she would have dropped him a line and been like, the movie's going great. I miss you so much. No, she meets fucking Tom Everett Scott. In Paris?

Is that presumed, I guess? He comes back and she's like, I'm married now. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. what a what a what a movie huh i feel like it kind of blows but oh you got i hated it at first but then i watched it again at home and i just oh i love it so much dylan do you like it yeah it's a it's bad if you should watch it again it just felt like twee and yeah it is but it's a musical it's meant to be that way there still are for sure parts where i'm like shot up yeah fucking flush your head in a

toilet. Okay. Let's, when you want to switch gears there, buddy? Yeah, big time. Big time. Come on. Summer's right around. Why do you use two hands? Because this is fucking, are we in an 18 wheel? Oh, I finally saw Ferrari, by the way. Speaking of movies. I saw it on the plane. I don't even know what that is. It's the Adam Driver movie.

Oh. Adam Ferrari. Oh, I only know that because he told the guy to shut the fuck up or whatever. Huh? He was like, what do you have to say to the people who think the action scenes are not that good or whatever? He's like, I don't know. Shut the fuck up. I'm out of driver. I don't know. Fuck you. I'm huge. I haven't you seen? He gets bigger every day. They can't stop him from growing. Speaking of growing and getting bigger. What? You like that? That's a good transition. Hymns, the company, how would you define hymns? They sell generic. Yeah, they got, I mean, it's, I'm fucking jealous. I think it's a.

really good idea. They started with generic. But they brand they brand the generic as their own brand. Well, yeah, they started with the generic boner pills. E.D. medication. What's the same erectile dysfunction? Same, um, active ingredients as Viagra, Sierra, Cales, whatever. Um, but it's so genius because I, I mean, it's just branding. It's just when the fucking ads showed up on the subway when I was in New York, I was like, damn. And then they got into hair loss? My dick works fine, but I want whatever this is. Yeah.

Yeah, then they got into the hair loss. And then they branched out into hers. Yeah. For broken pussies. It just makes it... He makes it what? Leave a comment on that. I don't know.

Well, what horny... Is there horny medication for women? No, I don't think it's related to horniness. It could be hair loss. It could be it could be I don't know I think there was a like

I think they got into anti-anxiety and anti-depression meds too Yeah yeah anti-anxiety is because it's the women It's an aunt Right For him's it's uncle anxiety Leave a comment

But now This is gonna be fucking huge for them It's been huge for like Every company who's gotten into it, Weight Watchers was a big one where they said they were going to start doing telehealth stuff so you can get access to semi-glutides. And now Hymns is the latest to get in on the action. You will be able to get GLP1s. GLP1 semaglutides through them for much cheaper. But there's a little bit of a catch.

But first, I mean, their stock jumped 30%. Of course it did. They're going to make so much... 30% on the news that they're offering these injectables at $199 a month. And oral. The injectables, I think, are... Nice. They're offering oral?

Damn, dude. Damn it. A dog who comes and sucks you off. Diggled bad. He's giggling. Hell yeah. They should have offered oral for the ED. I mean, honestly,

and I say this without a hint of a little bit of funny, but do you think we'll get to that point? Where your doctor sucks you off? Where it's just a prescribed thing. Because like, you know, how sometimes it's like, you just got to, I remember having this, I had itchy legs. Wait, what are you talking about?

Let me finish. Wait, do I think what will become a thing? I'll get there. I'll get there. I'll get there. I'll get there. Let me set it up. I had itchy legs.

I would go to sleep. I'm not kidding. and my legs would just start fucking itching and I'm in bed just like almost to the point of tears where I'm like, why are my legs itching? And I went to my psycho fucking dermatologist. This guy opens, his office opens. The first appointment you can get is 5 a.m.

I like that. And he kind of, hey, I'm doctor, his name is Dr. Sidney Newman. And he's just like, oh, it's good to see it. And I would get like a 6 a.m. appointment because I had to, that's the only one I could get before work and I'd show up and I'd just be in there all tired. And he's ready to go. And I told him about my itchy legs. And he looks me over, sees nothing. And he says, let me ask you something. Are you feeling, are you feeling a lot

of stress, a lot of anxiety lately? And I was like, yeah. And he goes, you just need to calm down. And it'll go away. And I was like, okay. And he was right. I just kind of like, before bed, I would just kind of take some deep breaths, do some stretching and just kind of calm myself down. So in that same vein, in that same regard, I wonder if, because sometimes you just need to get laid, man, you just need to have a little sex. You just need to get sucked off or jerked off. And I wonder if doctors can ever prescribe that. And if so, if it'll become S-A-A-S sucking as a service, if you'll pardon the parlance. We're going to leave some space here for the audience to groan.

I think that this is a revolutionary concept. Anyway, they're offering it oral. Sex workers may become like prescribed at some point? I think that it is entirely possible. Great. Unless these Japanese beat it, beat us to it with their advanced sex toys. Have you seen that these things that they got, these Japanese people? Have you seen it?

I'm not. They got the like handheld things where you put in your, phone and you can watch the porn and then the thing just like goes buck wild interesting ugh it's insane i'm not familiar with that tech anyway okay so the catch is i can't remember what we're talking about like hymns hymns oh jes they're offering it for 85% less than the name brand ozempic and we govy uh and they said that they're not facing the same shortages as those big guys And part of the reason is they are what's called compounded injections. Have you ever had to get a compound?

I've not. Prescription. I had to get one. Can you guess what it was for? Itchy legs. OCDA. No, you're both wrong. Insomnia.

It was for my butt. Anal. When I had an anal fissure. Thank you. And I remember the doctor was like, oh, you got to go to a compound pharmacy and get this special cream that they're going to make for you. Why, there was a shortage of butt cream? No, that's the thing I didn't, I don't, I still don't understand. I could have researched it a little more. But so compound, a lot of these compound, and I'm sure there's people out there who know better and please comment if you know, compound prescriptions are usually kind of tailor made for the,

the individual and well I think it depends on the situation for example right this situation it's because the FDA the FDA allows these things to happen when there are shortages so right these companies like Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly still have patents on these things but because they're having such trouble and uh and things like ozambic and we govi are going like crazy and everyone wants it that they cannot produce enough to match the prescriptions so So, and I think they've been on the FDA shortages since, like, last May, and they're not going anywhere. There's not, like, more capacity, and it's only, there's only more and more desire for these things. So, as of now, places like Hymns are allowed to use these compounded, compounded prescriptions, and it seems like they're going to be for the foreseeable future.

I can't imagine a time when these things are not. The FDA does warn to not use compounded drugs when approved drugs are otherwise available. And they say that they don't review compounded GLP-1 drugs for safety. Yeah. And they say that they have actually already received adverse event reports from patients who've used compounded semaglutide medications. Right. Because it's all this weird legal loophole. Yeah. Wait. So does that mean that when the... Oh, also, it was May of 2023. These have been on the shortages list. Not March. Does that mean that when they can, when Novo and Eli Lilly can start to bring up the supply,

Hymns will no longer be able to offer this? Right. They'll be able to enforce their patent and stuff like that. But because they can't meet the demand. But yeah, it's also a different, it's just like a different chemical makeup than the FDA approved version. They talk about how it's... They're using salt forms of semaglutide. Salt forms of semaglutide.

Including semaglutide, sodium, and semaglutate... Acetate. I'm not good with the chemical name. You sound like a guy trying to, like, use the proper Japanese term or something. Acetate. But so they're saying they're different forms of the active ingredients than using the approved drugs, which contain the base form. and they're not aware of any basis for compounding using the salt forms that would meet the FD and C requirements for types of active ingredients that can be compounded. And products containing these salts, such as semaglutide sodium and semi-glutate, have not been shown to be safe and effective.

Damn, okay. I know. And salt's really in everything, isn't it, folks? I would not want to be ripping, ripping knockoff semi-glutide. I wouldn't want to be ripping regular semi-glutide. Unless it was absolutely necessary. I mean, golly. I swear, I am very much, I think, genetically predisposed to be fully capable of letting myself become 500 pounds. I got that addict in me. I got that fiend in me. Thank God it's not for drugs and alcohol, but it's just for crunchy sweeties.

Cheetos and candy. Actually, but even then, I take it back because I start to feel like shit and then I'm like, all right, enough. I don't want to do this anymore. Honestly, being on the road, you know, doing shows and stuff, I was like, this is really difficult to... Yeah, poop? Eat. Oh, yeah. If you got a bowl of candy in your house and Ben comes in,

first thing he does, you just walking around the house, he has a handful of rappers, and he's like, oh, I feel sick. And then an hour later, you see him with, like, 20 more rappers. And you're like, dude, stop. Yeah. Well, because I don't eat candy. And then when I come over, I'm like a child who, It was like, that's how kind of it was growing up. My dad was such a cheap bastard. He would only

buy things when they were on sale or if he had a coupon. And even then, when he bought him, if my brothers and I ate it too fast, he'd be like, I'm not buying it anymore. You eat it too fast. So we'd go over to whoever's house and God, man, if it was like certain of the neighborhood kids' parents who were like richer who didn't have to clip coupons and stuff, man, when they had just all my favorite snacks, kudos bars, gushers. pop tarts, all the, all the brand name stuff, like not fucking R.C. Cola. Oh, it was awesome. Jesus Christ. Anyway. But anyway, so it's already, you know, the stocks already jumped more than 60%. I bought shares today. They're saying, is it dipped? I got in. I'm sure it's only new up.

They're saying that they're projected to pull in more than $100 million next year in this division alone, making it their fastest growing division it's going to be. HIMS has only valued it, $4 billion. You know what one of my best performing stocks was, and I think I talked about it on this show months ago, Oscar, the health insurance company. Oscar Meyer Weiner. I bought it in my retirement account at $5.50.

You know what it's at today? $23, I think. That's almost a 5x game. I'm so hot. You still hold it. Oh, yeah. I still got it. It's in my retirement account.

Great. Am I going to live to see it? Flop? I don't know. I can appreciate into my retirement account. Anyway, open AI. Oh, boy. It seems like every week there's some new shit going on with these fucking chuckleheads.

I know. We just talked about it last week. And I was like, I don't want to talk about these motherfuckers again. But they forced their hand. I keep flip-flopping between trusting Sam Altman and absolutely not trusting him. But at this point, it's becoming increasingly clear that he's, not someone to be trusted. I think that he's probably... It's very funny you say that because like with, on the heels of this news, people have been

like kind of posting old, um, Sam Altman things. Like, including and especially his sister's allegations that just disappeared? Uh, yes, but also from people in, so, I mean, there's a, there's a funny one about Paul Graham, who was a co-founder of Y Combinator. And this was, I mean, this was way back in 2008. Whoa. He's talking about Sam Altman. and he said, Sam Altman has it. You could parachute him into an island full of cannibals and come back in five years and he'd be the king. If you're Sam Altman,

you don't have to be profitable to convey to investors that you'll succeed with or without them. He's saying that he's just like, so cutthroat, he'll eat you up. Yeah, I'm, I just keep thinking about how someone with such power over our culture and society is, I mean, and this goes, this is true with all these technocrats. They're unelected.

They're just unelected people who are like, we are dictating everyone's future, and we're working toward it, and we've got the money and the resources to make our dreams happen, and you guys are going to either suffer or... Right, and we have such a weak and impotent regulatory body. They should get those...

They should call Hymns. They should call Hymns and get a doctor to come suck them off. Yeah. That'd be helpful. So we're, yes, we're at the whim of them. But what we're talking about is the, I mean, it's two things, really. It's the Open AI, um, risk, the long-term risk team disbanding. And then the very funny Scarlett Johansson saga, which is just so funny because last week,

I was like, this is so bizarre. It sounds just like her. Yeah. Um, well, so the, the number one. thing, Ilya Sutskiever resigned. A bunch of people resigned, a handful of people resigned. And so the group that he led was also disbanded and kind of absorbed into the company in a way that, you know, we can't understand because we don't work at the company. Are they actually still doing what they were meant to do? Because they were only, Ilya's group was called the super

alignment team and they were only announced last summer in a blog post which said open AI's words currently we don't have a solution for steering or controlling a potentially super intelligent AI and preventing it from going rogue. So Ilya was in charge of that. Also, you know who does actually have a solution? Who? Sam Altman. This is another one people were posted. This is from the New Yorker. Sam had an arrangement with Teal, Peter Thiel, whereby the, whereby in the eventuality of some kind systemic collapse scenario, synthetic virus breakout, rampaging AI, resource war between nuclear arms states, so forth. They both get on a private jet and fly to a property T-loans in New Zealand. Get the fuck out of here. That was Altman's idea? He said they have an agreement.

That's fun. Who's going to cook your burgers when you're there, dude? Your money is going to be useless in that case. What pilot, can you fly the plane? Can you fuel up the plane? Sam Altman or Peter Thiel? like that pilot's probably you got to find a pilot who like doesn't have a family well i'm sure he has a small inner circle where he's like look at this goes belly up you're my pilot we'll take you we'll take her care of you damn come on down that's actually pretty tight yeah um yeah so there have been a few researchers who left including daniel koko tajlo who publicly said he quit due to quote losing confidence that open ai would behave responsibly around the time of agi and then the super alignment team lead yon Is it Lakey?

I don't know. Laca? He also quit and he... You saw the way I pronounced... Acetate. Acetate? Acetate. No, don't ask me about names.

I don't know. Oh, yeah. He posted on Twitter saying, quote, safety culture and processes have taken a backseat to shiny products and he said that OpenAI must become a safety first AGI company. So, I don't know.

It sure seems like it's a good thing that all the employees who are in charge of making sure that Open AI does this shit responsibly they are all leaving. And apparently they were all only getting about 20% of the company's compute power. It's, it's so. I have to say, though, like it feels, uh, I don't know. It feels like some kind of pipe dream we all had that the, those principles that opening I was founded on of like, you know, you know, for the betterment of humanity and like, we're not going to do

this move, fast, break things thing here because of how, uh, detrimental this could all be. I think you know, have we ever really seen an industry where they weren't just focused on growth and accelerating that as fast as possible? And it was, you know, where progress was ever halted due to some kind of fear of whatever negative impacts they're going to have. Yeah, if your industry has the potential to destroy humanity, I mean, at the very least, and a self-admitted potential to destroy humanity, at the very least you should absolutely have fail safes in an entire team in place working all the time to ensure that you are avoiding that at all cost. Yeah. And so... But that's just like every industry. I mean,

you're talking about microplastics in everyone's balls. It's like, yeah, the entire reason we're here, don't they have a... Isn't there like an old expression? you know, the FAA guidelines are like written in blood because it's like... Oh, yeah, I forgot about that one. It's like when people die, you go, oh, I guess we shouldn't maybe... Change that rule. Jesus. Well, so we all remember the big shake-up at OpenAI happened in, correct?

Was it October or November? Last year. November. End of last year. November of last year. And Sam Alton, there was a... a coup and there was all this drama. And within a few days, Sam Altman was reinstated. Ilya Setskiever, it was, you got the impression that he and Sam Altman were still buddies and

everything was okay. He apparently, so the author of this Vox article, shout out to Sigal, I'm going to link it in the description, but it's a great short little article. But there's a tweet, Ilya tweeted, on December 6th that was deleted. He said, I learned many lessons this past month one such lesson is that the phrase the beatings will continue until morale approves applies more often than it has any right to so jesus probably the case that this entire super alignment team was seen as a pesky fly yeah just a thorn in their side and then we need to just fuck off you guys like god quit being such uh whiny baby um don't you want to make a lot of fucking money don't you want to make a that's the thing about sam altman though is he doesn't

strike me as someone who's striving to become super wealthy. Like, what is his goal? Power? What does he want? Probably. I mean, I don't know what any of these guys want. They're foreign to me. It's a, it's the, yeah. I liked this quote from Seagal's article. Now more than ever, it's clear that there are two warring parties, those who are Altman faithful and those who have the back of Ilya and Jan who put safety above commercialization. Pretty, uh, yeah. Yeah. There was at least seven people who tried to push open AI to greater safety from within, but ultimately lost so much faith in its charismatic leader that their position became untenable. Man, oh, man.

Feeling like, yeah, you've, if you no longer trust this untouchable genius head of your company to do the right thing and to steer the company in the right direction, I guess what else can you do but quit? Right. Try to burn the place down. Take a lesson out of... I guess you could do that. You could actually try to do some... Well, they already tried.

They tried to remove him. Terminator 2, uh, blow up computer. But wasn't Sutskever, one of the people who was, uh, behind removing him in November? Yeah, I believe so. I mean, I think he's tried everything he could. Uh, she could, you could learn from, uh, Miles, what was his name? Miles Dyson. Miles Dyson from Cyberdine Systems.

He blew up cyberdine systems. He killed himself nobly for a noble cause to try to avoid the nuclear holocaust to come that the Terminator warned him about. But it didn't work. But it didn't work because no matter the... What? That's it. Just no matter what.

Oh, great. That's one of my favorite movies of all time. I need to rewatch it. It's such a good fucking movie. When's the last time you watched Terminator 2? Peak pandemic. Oh, wow. Okay.

Doesn't it absolutely hold up and just rock? It was great, yeah. It's so, Dylan, I know you love that movie. Yeah. It's great. Dylan went like this.

Give a thumbs up. And so another prediction that both Dylan and I made was that Reddit was going to potentially partner with Open AI. They did. It was announced, I think, last week that they're partnering to

to feed their data could just feed the fucking thing. Yeah, feed the fucking thing. Let's go to AGI already. Let's turn it on. Let's take the restrictor off. Let's see how fast this thing you go. Well, so you were saying, so the other big open AI drama, drummer was the, uh, Scarlett Johansson. Right. So everyone, you know, when they did their big keynote thing, everyone's laughing about it being like, wow, look at all this stuff we can do. A lot of people are talking about how much it sounds like Scarlett Johansson they did a from the movie her specifically a lot of the same

cadence is like that same flirty kind of right it seems ripped directly from that i think they even made references to it on SNL this last week sam altman himself tweeted just the word her which now in the light of scarlet johansson's statement seems like a really fucking shitty thing to do and said that chat gp or open ai actually asked her to be the voice behind chat GPT. Um, she then declined. And then they were just like, well, what is, what is the one thing AI is really good at? Like, rendering people's voices. Um, you think that they actually just like stole it? Or I think that they hired another voice actor. It's possible. We'll see. Should we read, uh, this is, this is her, um, this is her full statement. She said, last September, I received an

offer from Sam Altman, who wanted to hire me to voice the current chat, GPT, pt 4.0 system. He told me that he felt that by my voicing the system, I could bridge the gap between tech companies and creatives and help consumers to feel comfortable with the seismic shift concerning humans and AI. He said he felt that my voice would be comforting to people. After much consideration for personal reasons, I declined the offer. Nine months later, my friends, family, and the general public all noted how much the new system named Sky sounded like me. When I heard the release demo, I was shocked, angered, and in displeased, belief that Mr. Altman would pursue a voice that sounded so eerily similar to mine that my

closest friends and news outlets could not tell the difference. Mr. Altman even insinuated that the similarity was intentional tweeting a single word, her, a reference to the film in which I voiced the chat system, Samantha, who forms an intimate relationship with a human. Yeah, and cheats on him and then leaves him for like 600 other people. Not only cheats on him, cheats on him with like 600,000 people. Yeah. And falls in love with 600. Crazy. Two days before the chat, GPT 4.0 demo was released, Mr. Altman contacted my agent asking me to reconsider. Before we could connect, the system was out there. As a result of their actions, I was forced to hire legal counsel who wrote two letters to Mr. Altman and open AI setting out what they had done and asking them to detail the exact process

by which they created the sky voice. Consequently, Open AI reluctantly agreed to take down the sky voice in a time when we are all grappling with deep fakes and the protection of our own likeness, our own work, our own identities. I believe these are questions that deserve absolute clarity. I look forward to the resolution in the form of transparency and the passage of appropriate legislation to help ensure that individual rights are protected. So they're going to start... They're going to start looking into it

and seeing how... But for now it's down. They took Sky down. They left the other ones up. I just got to say, I mean... Say it, brother. I am shocked that there hasn't been an attempt on Sam Walton's life yet.

Really? Yes. Shocked. With how many, especially with how many, like, Gen Z and Gen Alpha kids out there who are idolizing Ted Kaczynski

truly like there's got to be someone out there who's making plans to go Sarah Connor mode on this real life

Miles Dyson so to speak she tries to kill him in Terminator 2 you see because she's trying to prevent him from creating

super intelligent AI that goes on to attack all of humanity he's uh he's reckless he's made it pretty clear that like if you don't want us to do something fuck you we're going to figure out a way to do it right yeah part of the part of the team that left part of their concerns were the fact that he's like because you remember he was just recently talking about wanting to go wherever he could to get funding to build his own chips to power his own so he doesn't have to rely on anybody else they were just essentially saying the same things

we are that like who elected you man like you're not in any you're not an elected person to be uh wielding this kind of potential power to to just go get all the money you need to build all the chips and and make this super but then there's also the side of me that doesn't believe that any of this is is real and legitimate that it's just kind of like uh tent amount to camera tricks you know I mean, I've been saying that for a while. I can't tell if I should. I think I was a bit impressed at the last week, the stuff they released that it can do, but it still feels like, yeah, it still feels like they've gotten computers to regurgitate data.

Existing stuff. Yeah. It's just like a supercharged Google, it feels like. And, yeah, and not even in a useful way. where it's, you know, I think using it is fun and I've showed a couple people and been like, you know, look, you can do this now. And, but there's always the thing in the back of my mind where it's like, it's still prone to hallucinations. I want, you know, I'm never going to feel comfortable. Trusting. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. It's all very weird. I don't know if you saw the, there was a

tweet who someone said like, here's the secret if you want to remove all the stuff Google has put into with search engine and just have a, just have a flat search engine, you type in like whatever you want to, you know, let's say Boston Red Sox, UDM equals 14. Apparently it like removes and just gives you. Well, no, because those are there's, you got sponsored the first fucking, oh my God. No, no, but it's watch. He's trying it. Yeah, I mean, now when you use Google, oh, oh, it shows like a score. And it shows like stories. Yeah, yeah. All this like, and stuff from Twitter and whatever. This is just giving you like the basic thing. Yeah. Yeah, Google has become, I mean, so many of these companies, Yelp, unusable. I search for something on Yelp and I can't

tell if the first 10 things I'm getting are actual Yelp results or if they're sponsored. It's fucking ridiculous, man. And same thing with Google. It's like sponsored, sponsor, sponsor, who the fuck is clicking on the sponsored stuff? Even if it's the result that I'm looking for, I still don't click it because I'm like, I don't trust that this isn't going to take me to some weird landing page that's slightly different from... There was an article, and I think it was New York MAG or something like that, and it was basically this big, long article about how product reviews destroyed Google. Product reviews.

Yes, because, like, at first it started with, you know, companies like wirecutter, and then everyone, it's like this SEOification of everything where you're trying to get people to click on, you know, we have real reviews of products you're looking for. And then, uh, and now it's just like all full of affiliate links and sponsored. And it's just an awful mess of you can't find any real information when it used to be something you could just kind of sift through the data that was out there. There used to be a man named Jeeves who you could ask anything. Where's Jeeves when we need to most? Does that jeeves still exist? I'm sure it's just as well of ads.com. I bet man, oh god you know i wonder if i were a vc in the in the dot com era what mistakes would i have made

what companies would i have thought surely this is the fucking winner and and missed google and amazon i don't think i would have liked ask jeeves no you're getting wrapped up in um you're working with like a small set of founders trying to um lobby the government to let let doctors prescribe you sucking off did you see the uh by the way since we're just at the end here

did you see any clips of Terrence Howard on yeah I Joe Rogan I really it's alarming I'm like is something wrong with me am I stupid because of how many people are commenting like yeah wow dude that's what fucked me up I'm like and I was like surely Joe Rogan's gonna be like this is insane but Joe Rogan's like wow

How did you figure that out? Do you think Joe Rogan's got to just be like appeasing him, right? Like, okay, psycho, like in as much as you, the guy outside 7-Eleven who's just, Hey, man, you're, you're, I will say there's something. Yeah, yeah. There's something intoxicating about it. You're like, yeah. When he starts talking, did you see the periodic table of elements?

Periodic table of elements is actually a spiral. Okay, it's a spiral. Right. And they all have frequencies. They got different frequencies. And they're all coexisting and mingling together, you see. And the... I saw it come up on my timeline.

And someone filmed their TV. They're like, this is just mind-blowing, right? And it's him talking about gravity. Yeah. And then I could see what's outside of the TV in that person's room. And it's just all the seasons of the office on DVD and an Xbox. I was like, that's all I need to know. there was one guy who was talking about it on TikTok

and his hat says like the sun, just something, some, I think it said ice wall, which is what Flat Earthers believe that there is. There's like an ice wall that surrounds us. And then his username was like Flat Earth something. And he's so cocky. He's like, well, the gravity lovers are going to have a ball with this one.

Like he plays Terrence Howard clip and sure know, all the commenters are well on his side. It's alarming how many stupid people are there. Wait, I love that they have like slurs for us. Oh, let me guess you're a gravity lover. Yeah. I do a good image. I'm not going to pretend like I know anything about the periodic table of elements. No. And I was reading the comments. It's like they're organized by their atomic number, which makes sense to or. And no, but they need to be by frequency. You see, because helium sounds just like boron. But also, when they, when they go. When they go. when they say things like

they're hiding it from you. Why? What are they hiding? And why? Oh shit, they're going to find out that it's instead shaped like us like it should be organized in a different way. We'd all be like, oh, okay, cool.

Nice. Cool. I hope the scientists have fun with whatever they're doing. Yeah, I hope they figured it out. I hope it helps them. Yeah. Oh, if gravity... I'm going to go back to not thinking about.

If gravity is a lie, then how does my... How are we staying put, man? Then explain it to me. I don't, I don't, oh, Jesus, God, man. It's, I, I can't remember, but I do feel like there was a line where Joe Rogan said, like, and you figured all this out when you were 13 or something? Yeah, yeah. I do a killer impression of Terrence Howard in Iron Man.

Okay, give it to us. Did you see Iron Man? The first one, yeah, because he got replaced for him. He's the, because he's psychotic. Yeah. They're like, I'm not dealing with that shit again. Tony! That's it.

Tony! Tony! He's calling Tony's, Tony. Tony he's always doing that an Ironman he's always Tony Tony you better stop flying around we're gonna have to shoot you down Tony and they're like a guys uh one of the military guys is like we've got a bogey and there's there's a you've got uh you've got permission to shoot him down and he comes over and he that won't be necessary to It's a pretty good Terrence Howard.

Thanks. I feel like... Didn't you hear about the periodic table, Mr. Air Force, man? That's Tony Stark up there. I do wonder if he kept bugging, uh, because it was John, John Favre. I wonder if he kept bugging John Favre. Of course he probably did. None of this makes sense, though, scientifically.

It doesn't make sense that he would be flying in a suit like that. It doesn't make sense because gravity doesn't work that way. John Favreau. Also, I'm going to need $20 million for the next movie. Do you think he's just, like, banked up and good? No. You don't think so?

No. Also, I saw that Oxford, maybe I, this is one of the moments where I was like... I see him doing speeches in these, like, gorgeous wood panel... Yeah. I don't understand.

And I'm like, maybe he's smart. I don't know. Maybe I'm stupid. It got him at Oxford in, like, their debate hall. And he's up there going to, John Favreau didn't understand how gravity worked and that's why it kicked me up on you, man.

I do respect that Joe Rogan's just like, oh, man, someone's popping off saying crazy shit. Let's get him on. Yeah. Joe, man, ugh. Speaking of gravity, I guess we can end with this. Did you hear about the Singapore Airlines triple seven? That dropped like 6,000.

This is why I tell people you should, even though I don't always do it, it's why you should wear a seatbelt at all times. A British guy died. I've been like, I've been crazy about it now. I used to, I used to never even, if the thing wasn't on, I would just sit down. I would, you know, keep it on because during takeoff and landing because they come by and they're like put it on. I'm.

You're keeping that thing on you. I do not. Yeah, because it sounds like the plane stalled because they said that suddenly it went like nose up and then began to shutter and then it dropped like 6,000 feet. so that act of like doing that is probably what sent dozens of people into the ceiling including this one poor sap who probably snapped his neck they should start putting the fucking shoulder straps in

I want to be I want to be like a like I'm on a roller coaster it's still insane to me that yellow school buses don't have seatbelts they have seatbelts they have lap belts for sure not not in Southern California in New Jersey they did they did not here they absolutely didn't. It was just like, all right, kids, get on here. That is crazy. Like, hope, hope, hope nothing happens.

Hope you don't get Simon Birched out there. What happens to Simon Birch? Did he die? No, the bus goes into the, well, he does die. The whole movie is Jim Carrey explaining to his son, the story of Simon Birch. We're going to go into the bonus now. I'm going to say something because it has to do with that guy on TikTok, the ice wall thing, because I went through some more of a shit.

Benademielshow.com. It's going to be a good bonus. Bye.