The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 67: Rupert Murdoch's real life Succession drama is too funny

Episode Date: September 26, 2024

Stinky old newspaper magnate Rupert Murdoch is at war with his own billionaire children over the future of his media empire. We'll fill you in on the fascinating drama, what's at stake, and what possible outcomes are in the cards. Plus, we're talking about YouTube's new "pause ads" that are sure to be a huge hit. And John Mulaney absolutely roasted the Salesforce Dreamforce convention he was paid to perform at. Leave a comment to be featured as the comment of the week next week! And also, like this video, please! Thank you! Head to https://benandemilshow.com for this week's bonus episode and to support the show! :) __ MOOMOO: Click this link https://j.moomoo.com/BAES to get up to 15 free stocks from moomoo U.S when you make a qualified deposit + earn 4.5% on uninvested cash + an additional 3.6% APY Coupon for 3 months for new users!! Terms & Conditions Apply. More info at https://www.moomoo.com/us/support/topic4_410 Options trading is risky and not appropriate for everyone. Read the Options Disclosure Document before trading. http://j.us.moomoo.com/00xBBz __ Latest MEATBALL SPECIAL HERE: https://youtu.be/bF9FbRUtyrM Last week's episode HERE: https://youtu.be/TtMzvVzHk7M Watch the latest Ben & Emil On HERE: https://youtu.be/ZgLZQZ8oeQI This episode was shot and edited by Connor Rousseau / @ conrad_roussrad Follow us on instagram! @ benandemilshow @ bencahn @ emilderosa and @ conrad_roussrad Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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By the way, on the app, I don't know if nobody has seemed to notice or call it out, but we got new emojis for all the little... I just can't imagine anyone really cares. Well, I thought that it'd be fun for everyone, so I asked the nice people at the company to... I was shocked when I saw this email come across my inbox. I said, for whom? Well, because the little fire emoji when you're a new member at Beninamielshow.com,

and I thought, man, the fire emojis is the same. same whether you're one month or five months and I thought that's kind of boring like let's change it up if you're the developer who who was forced to do this because ben sent a huge shout out it's huge shout out and we're joking people really do care they love it yeah they've been talking about it a lot so anyway danny who's got the monkey emoji said said Ben looks like he'd be a bass player in a band comprised of blind mice and he pretends that he's also a blind mouse don't really understand what that means. I don't either, but it really makes me laugh. I send that one to Ben. Yeah. And this other one is really good. And this other one comes from jiggly

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another one of these jokes where you guys don't get Ben started on the Twitter algorithm I will say I've said it again I've said it before I am constantly chasing that high of we just didn't know how good we had it I miss my algorithm so much I had a perfect little thing where I could see all my little news I miss tweeting and when there was a thing happening it was the place to be to follow it yeah i have been someone suggested it and i have been

kind of using it a little bit substack basically has the the notes feature which is almost like twitter but it oftentimes leads to a you know an article someone wrote or something but it's been it's been nice for just straight news but it's not it's not it's not the same i'm for straight news so you don't follow gay news i'm out on gay news at the moment but i'm i'm open it's also just such a literally pretty much every time we come in to record we're I'm fresh off of some just being rotted out from some horrible thing I've seen on Twitter just literally today before we came in there was that that's the thing I've I've no control over it it now just appears on my shit but there was this woman going what was she doing she was talking about how

she lets I guess she's a porn star or something I've never seen her in my life she's She's talking about in a video about how she goes to different towns. She's British and lets 18-year-old guys to celebrate for, I don't know, starting university or whatever. She's, she posts her hotel or whatever and she says, come have sex with me. Come in and have sex with me. And then you're starting university. You're going to have sex with me. You're 18 years old.

I clicked her profile. Is my hotel. And she's just obviously making the. rounds on podcast and stuff and talking about how uh she's and they're the the podcast house are just going and um and so you said you had sex with 200 young men in uh in a week when you were in Northampton and she's like yeah and I did yeah about 200 and I did 28 in one night I did 28 in one night I was right chuffed proper chuff my my legs were shaking could hardly move could hardly get on the tube to go home i don't know but i just want my algorithm

back i just want my life back i don't want to yeah i just don't want to be stressed anymore well folks we've got a great episode for you today we're going to be talking about all about the real life succession that's right it's actually the more i read the more i learned oh that was the funny thing about it what so i mean he's we're going to be talking about the rupert murdoch stuff there's a big fight for basically the future of uh fox and news corp but i obviously i obviously knew that succession was based on the murdock family but i didn't quite know the extent of how similar they are oh yeah that me too as i'm reading i'm like oh this is silly fucking plot lines yeah but and if we got time we're going to be talking about some uh new ads that

YouTube is rolling out that we're not really big fans of. John Mulaney absolutely roasted the nerds at the Salesforce Dreamforce convention or something. And yeah, if we got time, we'll talk about this Solana breakpoint thing for their shitty coin. If we got time, we'll hawk pooha shit on that. Yeah, we'll hawk pooha and we'll shit on that thing. All right. So how about a little, how about, oh yeah, cue the intro, if we haven't already. I don't know where the hell that goes.

Who knows where it goes? Yeah, maybe it already happened. Maybe it already happened at this point. So, folks, when you look at the political landscape in America and much of the world today, you can pretty much trace it all back and thank one person. That's right. Rupert Murdoch, the Australian-born newspaper news media magnate. Which is the kind of freak stuff you like, your little wallow-o-weeb?

This is the kind of stuff. Yeah, I love it. Just because he's Ozzy, I automatically love it. He's one of your homegrown boys. Yeah. So he's had a ton of editorial control over his huge media empire, which includes Fox News and obviously a ton of the current conservative political narratives that have really taken a stranglehold on the United States. Also, News Corp, which encompasses, so Fox is basically all of the kind of TV holdings and everything. And the News Corp is his massive newspaper holding of, you know, hundreds of public. with Wall Street Journal is part of the most popular one, the New York Post as well. So, yeah, he's got... He's got a lot of them. But now, lately, his precious conservative media empire could change drastically if he croaks

soon, which could mean the end of the likes of Fox News as we know it. And we're going to explain why in this episode. But first, how about a little bit of history? we. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about this little creed. This was born. Oh, can you say that on YouTube? That this B. I don't know if you're allowed to say that specific curse. It's like the C word. You can't say it. Oh, who cares? We'll find out. Yeah, we'll find out if we get fucking like, uh, he was born in 1931 in Melbourne. He's dead on the Melbourne Herald when he was 21. His dad died. So he left, so Rupert left Oxford to take it over. I'm not going to stop.

I'm going to stop doing it. Do you think he's a swans fan? Probably not. I don't think that he, I think he's such an old. Well, someone commented on your swans talk saying typical finance, bro, swans fan. I guess I would later find out that the swans are beloved by, it's like a more hoity-toity fan base. Yeah, it makes sense. So call me hoity tooty all you want. Swans rules. Him and Rupert Murdoch in the box, watching the swans. I'm a swan till I die. And you know about swans they're beautiful be better watch out because they'll bite you they'll bite you they'll protect their young yeah and we were also ugly babies bitch hey gang we got to take a quick break to thank one of our uh best sponsors mu mu mu yeah that's right mu mu mu you've heard us talking about

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newspaper and he turned it into a huge success and he started acquiring and expanding. He took over the Sunday Times in Perth and a bunch of other smaller newspapers in Australia, including the Sydney tabloid, the Daily Mirror. And that's the big thing right there because Rupert Murdoch is basically credited with creating the tabloid like he's he's he's the godfather the father the mother the holy spirit of the tabloid yeah doesn't he have a funny line about like i just want it splash with tits i was gonna get to that yeah he said that damn you that sounded pretty good but you sounded more british than australian well just what you sounded like mc jagger i just want it smashed with tits yeah yeah some big

babes babies and the way he went about creating the tabloid is he took the these otherwise boring-ass newspapers, and he just filled him up with sports and scandal coverage and eye-catching headlines. In 1972, he acquired the Daily Telegraph. He bought the Sun in the UK in 1969. He turned that into a tabloid, and that's when he said, yeah, he told the editor, I can't even do it now because I want to do a British voice. He said, I want a tear-away paper with lots of tits in it. So he said, I want a tear-away paper. I want a tear-away paper. So he said, I want a parraway paper, right? Well, lots of tits in it.

He kind of, he kind of invented the... Did he? He invented the tit. No, he invented the current Twitter algorithm, basically. Reactionary politics. Yes. Tits. Yeah.

Hell yeah. We can thank him for that. Pussy in bio. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And then, you know, the cheap fast food content bullshit. Yeah, man.

The easy to digest the, in the 90s it was um what was it like bat boy discovered in cave that was all did you remember seeing that it was like a little black and white photo with like fangs and oh yeah yeah i as a naive child was like i i assumed the tabloids were the truth which to some extent they can be but yeah reading those i'm like wow why is nobody talking about this they found like aliens and it was like pictures of bill clinton shaking hands with they it's just ridiculous shit but so he moves uh he starts acquiring stuff in the united states in nineteen seventy three mortetes he started acquiring shit in the united states in

1973 with the san antonio express news he then moved to new york and he founded star magazine as we all know in love and in 1976 i keep wanting to call him uh i don't even know it just it keeps it's hard for me to say Rupert Murdoch Rupert Murdoch bought the New York Post and in 1985 he became a naturalized citizen so that he could be able to legally own a United States based television station because apparently you foreigners can't do that

can't do that no can't do it you got to become a citizen first then you can buy a TV station Are you sure they don't just have to register as foreign agents or whatever? Foreign Asians? I don't know. I don't know. Ask a Japanese person. I really couldn't tell you. But you might be right. So in 86, Rupert took over the Herald in the Weekly Times, which was the largest news publisher in Australia. In 1999, he got his grubby little fingers into what?

what don't bang on the dead oh oh whoops he got his grubby he got his grubby little fingers into music he bought a controlling share and some australian record label called mushroom records he had his son james manage uh the the entity that came out of that when he merged it with um festival records and they created festival mushroom records in the 80s things really started to take a change he buys a stake in 20th century fox that was Isn't it crazy that they ended up

changing into 21st? We're conservative new. Yeah. And eventually he bought six television stations to form

the Fox Broadcasting Company. And then in 1996, he gets into cable news with the Fox News channel being born

doing 24-hour cable news competing with Ted Turner's CNN, which was I believe the first to do it,

the 24-hour news network. And they absolutely dominated. Nine out of ten of the top cable news television stations or, yeah, TV shows or coming out of Fox News. And at the same time, he was merging his British TV network, Sky Television with the British satellite broadcasting company to form B SkyB, dominating the British pay TV market. Plenty of tits. Plenty of tits.

None of the shits. You got to go out some pretty good. I'm tuning in to finding your shits. None of the... Yeah. Be sky B. All the tits. None of the shits.

Stay tuned. And he just went on a spree from there on out. He bought a stake in direct TV. I couldn't... Going through all of the things that he bought or acquired or took a stake in, it's truly too long to list. He had a stake in direct TV. They got almost immediately when Fox broadcasting was...

created, they had a deal with the NFL to air NFL games almost every night. The movies, obviously, Titanic, anybody? Titanic, anybody? There's some tits in that movie. Famously got into social networks a little bit. Everyone's favorite website. Myspace. MySpace.

Who do you think fucked it? Rupert Murdoch, everybody. Yeah, yeah. He was like... Not enough tits. Not enough ads. We can make this website unusable. And didn't he sell it to Justin Timberland?

They bought it for like $700 million. they yeah I think over half a billion dollars and then they sold it for pennies on the dollar they literally thought they were gonna be printing money with my space yep nope instead they were printing toilet paper and now that guy Tom gets to live and do whatever the hell he wants good for him good for Tom we really do love him and then Avatar obviously

they they scored huge box office successes he bought IGN entertainment and he even I did not even know this but he bought You guys know the Dow Jones, like the industrial average, the stock market? Answer him. Answer me. Do you know it? Please.

He bought the Dow Jones and company. First, he made an offer to the family, and the family was like, no. And then they came back and said, actually, go ahead, buy it from us for like $8 billion or something like that. And then that entailed Wall Street Journal, Barron's smart money. Real Logan Roy shit. Real Logan Roy shit. And then 2013, News Corp. Is it News Corp?

Yeah, because Corr would have an S at the end. I said News Corp. Yeah, no, you're right. And I don't know if I'm right, but I don't care. Yeah. So, 2013, News Corp is filmed, affirmed, formed He's good. By spinning off from

21st Century Fox to include the Dow Jones, News U.K., which is the sun in the times, NewsCorp, Australia, some real estate shit he owns real realtor.com and the book publisher harper collins yeah they're even in book publishing so he steps down as the CEO of 21st century fox in 2015 but owned it until disney bought it in 2019 they bought all that shit and uh spun off and he still owns some tv assets and the fox corporation including fox news and throughout all of this he of course had political allies that helped him.

It was, scratch my back. I'll scratch you, scratch your back. Also, mutual sucking and fucking jerking each other off. You know, given favorable coverage in his newspapers. It's a great big suck and fuck. It's a great big suck and fuck for decades in the UK. Tony Blair, I think he helped get elected. He loved Ronald Reagan in the 80s.

He helped, buddy. He also helped Hillary. Clinton get voted into the Senate. He liked Obama. I liked this. In 2015, Rupert Murdoch supported Ben Carson, remember Ben Carson. How can I forget? And tweeted, what about a real black president who can properly address the racial divide and much else? And then he followed it up with apologies, no offense meant personally find both men charming. I love tits. Rupert Murdo. he didn't say that part. I added that about the boobs. And of course, most famously, he supported Trump big time, big, big, big, big, big time through Fox News, which is going to lead us to

part of the problems that they're having today. So throughout all this, he does what a lot of very rich men do. And this is my thing. Why do you need to get married so much? Oh yeah. He got married, what, five times? I think he's on his fifth marriage. Good for him. And good for all of them. because right now there's all's well and good, right? He owns all these things. He can be a little conservative freak. But what happens?

He's 93. Yeah. What happens if this guy takes one bad fall? Yeah. And he's decided what he wants to happen. He wants Lachlan Murdoch to take over. His son, Lachlan.

And this is after years of, you know, a succession-like drama unfolding where for, for a time they thought people thought it might be

James Murdoch his brother he's basically got his four eldest children from his second marriage what is it

Lockland James Prudence and Elizabeth Prudence and Elizabeth With an S Elizabeth His second wife when they divorced he wanted to make

sure they were all secure so they made an irrevocable irrevocable irrevocable trust maintaining that each of the eldest four children he's got I think six altogether two more children but they don't have voting rights but each of these eldest four children will have equal voting

rights um and have a say in what happens with the companies after with the massive empire yeah after rupert croaks but the thing is so he's decided he wants lockland to take over lockland is very aligned with what daddy was arguably more conservative than daddy but James Elizabeth and Prudence they're a bit They're a bit cooler I wouldn't go that far They smoke weed

That's the thing I want to be careful about I think there's a bit of a narrative Of like oh they're you know They're just more moderate Right That's it And the funniest thing about all of this

Is that in pretty much every story That talks about this They cite They cite the election of 2020 As a turning point for them Right And you can't help but be like, it took until 2020 for you to be kind of disgusted by your father's feelings and all this?

So James and Lachlan were pretty much running things at Fox News, but he resigned from News Corp in 2020 and issued public statements about his disappointment with climate change denial being pushed by News Corp outlets in Australia. This was around the time of those huge bushfires that they had. and the media's lies that contributed to January 6th. Important to note James' wife is a climate change activist. Yes, very important to note. So he and Lachlan ran it from 2015 to 2019, and their relationship started to get pretty shitty

when they were disagreeing about Fox's treatment of Donald Trump, with Lachlan and Rupert taking sides against James and just pointing out true to their... very core not worried about anything other than ratings they're just rupert and lockland are like what are you talking about james we got the record ratings we got tits up to wazoo don't be a wet blanket don't you like tits yeah don't you like tits and like you said yeah they so that trust was created in 1999 and what's happening now is it's a it's really not complicated so the key phrase there is irrevocable.

That means that you can't change shit. But when they made it, they made... It basically means that it's hard to change. It's hard to change. It's obviously... These things do get changed, but it's very difficult. Much like an old man's political beliefs. Very hard to change.

The one case, the one asterisk there is if Rupert wanted to change the trust, he would have to prove that the change would be to benefit all of his heirs. And so, yeah, he's currently got a 40% voting share in both News Corp and Fox. And the prevailing wisdom here suggests that if Rupert wins, things will stay the same, if not intensified toward even more conservative slant. Because like we said, Lachlan would be, he would, uh, he would, uh, he would, continue bringing them even further to write because he's even crazier.

But if he loses, if Rupert loses and the trust remains unaltered, there's a good chance that the other siblings are going to vote to outvote Lachlan and push the media empire more toward a moderate stance. And that's at the crux of what Rupert is going to try to prove would hurt his heirs, because his whole thing is, hey, we've built this entire empire upon conservatism and upon conservative media. Therefore, if we were to change it, it's kind of unproven, but we can confidently say that if we were to change it in any way, it would materially harm all of my heirs because it could drastically reduce the value of Fox News, of News Corp, et cetera. So. And not only that.

excuse me. Not only that he's going to argue that it's going to create all kinds of gridlock within the company and be very difficult to run because now you have four different people with voting rights. And they have to be included on all strategic moves at the company right now. So he's going to argue that it's going to be bad for the company, bad for the airs, and very difficult to run the company now. Yeah, his case is going to be that any change in ideological direction and potential disagreement among the siblings would materially harm the company and thus allow him to modify the trust, since its current iteration, he'll probably argue, could negatively impact his errors. but people who are close to the other siblings, James, I'm blanking, Prudence and Elizabeth, say that their concerns are with how Lachlan has been running the company, including and especially,

so they point to their argument is, hey, the way things are going, it could actually negatively impact us already, because look at what Lachlan just did with Fox News, having to pay out Dominion voting to the tune of like almost a billion dollars. That was a huge thing because they just kept doubling and tripling, quadrupling down and not giving a flying fuck because they realize and they know that they've cemented themselves as just the sole, trustworthy news source for Trump supporters, Trump lovers. I like that he kind of, he thought it was all going to just be fine. He thought he was going to tell the other kids.

Yeah. they were just going to be like, okay. Oh, yeah, I love that part. After filing his petition to amend the trust, Mr. Murdoch met separately with Elizabeth and Prudence in London, hoping to win their support. Instead, they were furious. Elizabeth responded to the possibility with a string of expletives. The fight has left Mr. Murdoch estranged from three of his children in his twilight years.

None of them attended his wedding to Ilana Zoukova, his fifth wife. Lachlan did go to the wedding, of course. He's daddy's little boy. He's basically, what's his name? Kendall. Kendall. He's basically Kendall. And the others are, the Prudence is the older one who wants to run for political office.

What's his name? Con. Connor. Connor. Yeah. So it's really fun. He calls, Rupert calls this effort to change the trust. He called it Project Harmony.

Right. Because he thinks, he thinks if he succeeds, it will actually bring a lot more harmony to the family. And it's really funny because all these kids. are set for life already. I mean, they literally, each of the six kids got two billion dollars from the Disney buyout. Which I didn't quite understand. Rupert asked for some of that money from them after. And I'm pretty sure the other kids said no, but Lachlan said yes. Wow. I wonder why he was cash poor? I don't understand. Interesting. But yeah, each of them, two billion dollars from that Disney sale. Yeah. James and Catherine said that they use a portion for climate change and combating

what they call high-tech illiberalism and apparently Rupert himself does not like James's outspokenness and calls him the quote, troublesome beneficiary in communications. And he points out that, hey, the shit that you're railing

against is what made you a billionaire in the first place. Just kind of like oh, you ungrateful little twat. You probably calls him a twat. Which I kind of understand. But this is the thing. If you're going to have that position, don't bring your kids into the company. Give them their money and then say, if you don't

like it, shut the fuck up. Yeah. You give the money away to charity. But if you're going to bring them into the company and they're like seeing the inner works into this thing and going, Jesus Christ, this is pretty fucked up. Yeah. If I had that much money at that point, I would just say, you know what? Well, I guess if my dad was still alive in 93 and a billionaire who ran Fox News, I would probably feel a little bit of guilt and shame about the source of my wealth and what it did to contribute to the state of things, not only in the world, but in the United States. Just assassinate your dad. It is all, it does, it does raise a lot of questions. And I don't know how much we'll find out.

This is all happening. It's all sealed. We're not necessarily going to hear about all of it. It's happening in Nevada, which is the reason it's happening in Nevada, which is the reason it's happening in Nevada. is, it's like, it's the way every corporation is incorporated in Delaware. It's, it's much more advantageous for probate shit. For probate shit. Also, it's, um, it's friendlier to trust with anytime there's creditors involved, all that kind of stuff. It's just a better place to have your, uh, trust done. And so it's all going to happen there in this, in this probate court in

Nevada and, and, wow, look at him calling it Nevada. What are you supposed to say? No, you're calling it the right name. Nevada. I say Nevada because I'm a piece of shit. Oh. But you said it was sealed. Is he going to oversee the case? Seal?

I think he is, yes. And then when there's a ruling, he will mark it with a kiss from a rose. But, yeah, I don't know. These things always beg the question of. I'm begging the question. I'm begging me. But truly, if you're one of these kids,

why not just, I don't know. If any problem with it, cash out and get the fuck out. Elizabeth runs a movie studio, a very famous one called Sister. They, if you know, good grief, this is going to hurt Chernobyl, that series. That's all her. And she calls herself the Switzerland of the family. Which is ridiculous. It's like, just leave.

Yeah. No one's forcing you to be there. You've got plenty of money. You go wherever you want. Yeah. I do think there is a, I, I, I, you know, I think when you're watching Succession, you have those thoughts, too. You're like, why don't any of these people just fucking take the money and leave?

But I do think there is some kind of sickness and pathology where these people, what would you do anything you fucking want? Yeah, well, yeah, but I mean, there's... Start a, like, run your movie studio with all the money you fucking have. Yeah, do your investment fund. Obscond somewhere. Just get out of this awful... Pay some mercenaries to kill your dad. Or your brother Lockland.

You got the money for it. Firebomb, Fox News. Get a two for one deal. If you can't get it done via your voting shares, there's other means to get it done. You're a billionaire. You can find someone. You can pay someone. There are fixers out there.

I know you know what I'm talking about, man. I know you know. Just do it. I am very... You care that. Show us that you care. Do it. Poison Tucker Carlson.

He doesn't work anymore. He's not there anymore. He's got the Tucker Carlson network now and he's doing just a... fine he's starting a very cool um zin competitor yeah because now zin is somehow like pusified or something everyone knows there's pussies using zin and if women are using zin it's for people who like tits just like his ex-closs instead of zin his tits but i am very curious what it uh obviously if you're watching this you would hope that rupert loses and we get to see that would be the most interesting outcome but genuinely how much is actually going to change i i think

at at best i i don't know they make another cnnn i why did i say so many ends why did i say so many ends or i i mean i i can't imagine it being some kind of some kind of news network that is honestly covering climate change stuff or i just i don't i can't imagine james and katherine are going to... Yeah, I mean, you've got to wonder how moderate, just how left-leaning their politics actually go. I don't know. But it is interesting, the irony to me,

that the guy who founded a tabloid is dealing with all sorts of poisonous drama within his own family now. Was it worth it, Rupert? You've got all your children estranged from you and all you're battling them. And what do you care, man? I would say he would say it is worth it. He's got a lot of money.

Well, what is it? Do you love News Corp that much that you need it to go on and you don't give a rat fuck? Oh, the best part about this, too, I forgot. I want to mention that, like, we were talking about the big old suck and fuck and how we were going to get back to that a little bit. But there are obviously, there's obviously people in American politics with a vested interest in having this conservative mouthpiece. And it's important to point out who is on the side of Rupert here. and moving for some of these changes to the trust. So to bolster his argument that he's making change in order to benefit all of his heirs, Mr. Murdoch has moved to replace two of his long-time executives

as his personal representatives on the trust with two people with more independence. One is William P. Barr, an attorney general under President George H. Eddie Dish and Trump, who is also a guest at Mr. Merdoch's recent wedding. The court document shows that Mr. Barr is leading Mr. Murdoch's effort to rewrite the trust.

It quotes Mr. Barr's statement when he introduced Mr. Murdox moves at the special meeting of the trust on December 6th. Mr. Murdox said he knew the companies and the environment better than anyone else and believed that Lachlan

was in the best position to carry on that successful strategy. So there are people who really do not want to lose what Fox News means to them. It's a very, very powerful thing. Yeah. So the sucking...

He who controls the media controls the tits. That's... Or he who... Hmm. something like that that's fool me once shame on tits fool me twice let me see him we got to stop saying tits we'll put a tit counter in someone's gonna be upset and and that rupert said it i didn't say it he said it we quoted him yeah we quoted him he said it this many times he said it will rupert murdock

tits yeah and you'll see just how many times this guy popped off we're just good Google tits and enjoy yourself. And have that it. Wait, so who's the other special person? Oh. Billy Barr? Who's the other guy or gal? I think that was the real one sticking out.

Yeah. He's really leading the charge with Lachlan to get this thing. Change. Well, so there you have it, folks. We're going to be hearing about this pretty soon because it's in probate court as we speak, as this comes out. And if he can change it, basically all you got to know now is if you see the headline that the trust was successfully changed, that Rupert came out on top like he

probably will and always does, because that's what I think. I think he's going to be able to change it successfully, and which means that the status quo will maintain, everything will remain the same, if not get worse. And if he loses and the trust remains unaltered, hey, maybe we're leaving some, going to have a little bit of an exciting times and maybe toned down the rhetoric from the old Fox News in the near future. Hopefully, Rupert dies before, you know, soon so that that can start to happen. I mean, obviously it's a big if if he dies. I'm almost certain he'll change it. And we're just going to see. Yeah. And we're just going to see. I think he's got a strong case. If I were the probate, if I were the

probate enforcer guy in Nevada, I would point to, yeah, I mean, you're right. The way that things are has proven to be completely just an unadulterated, massive, one of the biggest success stories in the history of media. So to alter that, yeah. I could see both sides. Yeah, me too. What you pointed out about their, like, that's a very valid, it's a very valid argument from, you know, that we clearly have a business model here that works. But then the other stuff about Dominion. Also, I don't know what the future of Fox looks like. I think their audience obviously skews old. I think the amount of, the amount of lead ingested in the audience is maybe quite high. And then, like, I don't think they have a real transition plan in place for, they don't

like a huge digital footprint or, um, or any of that. And a, just speaking of politics and, and again, I mean, who are their stars anymore? They used to have Tucker Carlson. I don't even know. Bill O'Reilly. I mean, those people are still massive. I didn't really, Bill O'Reilly has, oh, he's like seven feet tall. He's huge. Has his own website with. Yeah. It's like Ben and Ameal Show.com, but way more successful. He's also got the auto parts, auto parts store. O'Reilly. That's not him, I don't think. Oh, it's not? Okay.

Some other Irish guy? But yeah, all their, now they got Jesse Waters. This guy has, he doesn't have it. Wait, is that that black guy? No, he's the, he's a white guy black hair. He, he tries to do the thing where he like says something repugnant. Just the most smug prick in the world. Oh, yeah.

Constantly telling on himself, just, and Greg Gutfield. Oh, Gutfeld, yeah. Gutfeld. He's crushing it in the ratings, apparently. Is he really? Yeah, you always see that he's like number one at night. I don't know, because old people don't sleep. Look at Phil's butt out there.

Anyway. But it's a pretty bleak lineup. So, I mean, I could just see, I can see both, but I just, good things don't usually happen. I can see, but both good things don't usually happen, too. So. Anyway, let's switch gears, shall we? Let's talk a little bit. Wait, actually, real fast.

Just on that note, I've been seeing. Speaking of Fox News and shit, I've been seeing RFK now leading the charge. I did see one lady go, they interviewed her and she said, I voted for Trump in 2016. I voted for Trump in 2020. And then the person said, well, what changed? And she said, I turned off Fox News. Oh, yeah, I saw that too. That Walter Masterson, Walter something, I don't like that guy.

I know what he's trying to do and I just think that he sucks at it, trying to be like a troll to he wants to be on the daily show so bad, and it's like, bud, you're not good enough. I'm just sorry. You heard it here first, Walter Matheson. Give up your dreams if Ben Kahn thinks you suck. I think he suck. But so, RFK is leading the charge in sleeping with young journalists. Of making America healthy again.

And it just goes back to what we talked about last week. I actually don't think he slept with her. I don't think he did either. But it goes back to what we talked about last week with Peter Thiel being on Joe Rogan and them railing against government regulation. but at the same side of their little buttholes, they're talking about how microplastics and all sorts of shit are ruining us and making us unhealthy.

And it's like, bitch, that is your lack of government regulation at work. That's it. You cannot simultaneously call for a decrease in regulations to let the free market do its thing and then act surprised or then act surprised when the corporations poison us. No, Ben, don't you get it? plastics directly into my balls. If companies make food that's unhealthy for people and makes them

fat, then those companies will fail because people will stop buying those foods. That's not true. That is true. That's the free market at work, the invisible hand. The invisible hand is anything other than that is fucking rank communism and you're a pinko loser. The invisible hand is too busy jerking off its invisible dick. That's what's going on. The invisible hand has done nothing but edge itself and just refuses to come. Wait, so what is it, what is, what is the RFK Jr.'s plan in, uh, I don't know, to do something to make, we got to get healthier and stuff in schools and go to move away from genetically modified, you know, crops and stuff like, okay, then you know what

that's going to require government regulations. No. It's going to require shit like that. All right, enough of that shit. All right, let's, Olivia Nuzzi. I didn't know that's how you said her name, and I thought it was Nutsi. I thought it was Nuzzi.

Olivia Nuzi? She's got 400,000 people subscribed to her substack. Ooh. Yeah. Did that go up because of, no, it was just always. I can't imagine. Apparently they were just sex thing. Yeah.

She also did a very funny thing. What did she do? Well, according, she has not released the statement, so I don't know. But RFK Jr. has tried to get ahead. of it and said that because did you read her story about him no it's insane they went on this hiking thing he picked her up in this van with his like insane dogs and it's also just it's so crazy to to to fall for this man and desire him I think it's probably pretty easy he's a kennedy women love kennedies you know you're probably going to die or something because they're cursed

you need to read the story though he pulls up in this beater van with like three dogs and He's just, it's like getting, and they're driving to the hike, and he's like, Shut off! Hey, shut up, McNair. But anyway, he's getting ahead of it. He's saying that she was, she was bombarding him with explicit images. Damn. And then.

Taking a page out of Rupert's book, sending boobs, huh? And then he blocked her. And then she emailed him. Wow, what are you, a teen? She, she emailed. mailed him to be like, hey, I actually, um, I need you to unblock me just for some, uh, you know, story purposes. Yeah, we need to go over whatever. And then he says he unblocked her after that. And she sent him, uh, she sent him more nudes or whatever. Do you think she was trying to,

and she, she, and then he said, you know, I blocked her again after that. Do you think he, she was trying to pull one over on him and get him to like respond and play along? And then, and then, no, because why would you do that? I mean, she, she, she, she, she, her current, right, I guess that relationship is probably over now, but she was engaged to a guy who left his family, a 50-year-old. She was engaged to a 50-year-old who left his family for her. For her. Dang, girl, Olivia, what are you doing? What are you doing? Girl, stop going for these unavailable men. They're emotionally unavailable. Well, but then they become available. Yeah, but that's not a good recipe for a successful relationship.

I say, what is it, Girl Boss, Gatekeep? Tiddy Something Tiddy Meg Girl boss gate keep Tiddy No Either way

Also We need to maybe study the Kennedys Is there something Yeah they had a curse Wrong with them Where they Maybe

It's way beyond Sexual addiction But maybe they can't They can't live Without Did you see that You saw the JFK quote Of

I can't get I get these Terrible Migrants If I don't get a Strange piece of ass every day. I thought that was RFK Jr. who said that. It was JFK. They're all, there's something broken. There's a curse. And it was at its peak with JFK, getting his head famously shot off in front of everybody. And then his brother, RFK, famously getting shot,

but not in front of everybody, but in front of a good amount of people. And then another Kennedy who like got drunk and crashed his car in Martha's Vineyard and drowned that poor woman that he was with. And then one of them has red hair now. The curse is wearing off is what I'm saying. And then RFK Jr., the curse is now so impotent that it just affects his voice and makes him do a bunch of crazy shit. The Kennedys are proof that God is real and he doesn't like it when you're sexually promiscuous. Oh. I don't know why I'm right on Irish but I love Harry. No, he doesn't. He talks about how much he doesn't like them all the time. I love that. I love that the lucky charms, all the colors of the rainbow. Oh, that's brutal. You're so mean to them.

Is that Scottish? The Lucky Charms is good? That guy's Scottish. Wait, I seriously don't know. Yeah, he's Scottish. Are you fucking? No, the Lucky Charms guy, the leprechaun is Scottish. No, lepricons are Irish.

Sorry, but, no, Marty McFly's family in Back to the Future. Marty McFly are most famous Irish American. Oh, maybe they were Irish. So, yeah, RFK Jr. He's getting him fit. Oh, and he, like, cut off a whale, the head of a whale. whale with a chainsaw, which is very cool. It's, I mean, I, I, listen, just let me say it. I think he's funny and interesting. I feel like I would just like to stop learning about. Yeah, yeah. I would

just like to hang out with him because he's, he's a maniac and I love maniacs. Hey, why don't we go down on the beach and cut off that whale's head, you know, dig around inside, see what we find. Which came out because his daughter was getting interviewed and she was like, yeah, my, Growing up with my dad was insane. We were just, uh... He sounds like an adventurer. Yeah, but for like, of his own making, there's no... Yeah.

Hell yeah. He's just a Kennedy with too much money and he's... In a great tan. And that curse of just getting sick if you don't fuck someone. His voice. Yeah. Yeah, I went 10 days. That's how that happened.

He went too long without fucking. And if you're a Kennedy, it's like, You either get shot in the head or you lose your voice. Yeah. That's what happened to... JFK. JFK. He was on that dang Dallas trip.

Yeah. And he wasn't getting late. Did not get any strange. Yeah. His head exploded. And his head... His head... His head...

Didn't... He's gone. Ah, I got one of those migraines. Didn't R.FK. Jr. say... Oh, and Jackie Onassis was like, Honey, don't worry about it. When the parade is over, I'll suck you off in a little. be good, is like, uh, dear, I don't think air, uh, I can make it that long.

The British building. Hurry up, get me out of here. And then boom, done, gone. But I believe RFK Jr. said that, uh, or maybe this was a joke. That could just be Irish Catholics. I mean, that's why they have so many fucking kids. They just cannot stop fucking. Yeah, or their heads will explode.

Who's talking shit on Irish people now? Good God. I think it's cool that they fuck so much. I do too. I think it's great. Um, but didn't RF, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't RFK Jr say that they let him alone with his dad's, uh, dead body? He would fuck it. And he like dug around in the hole or something, the bullet hole?

I don't know. Maybe I made that up. I could not correct you if, uh, if you were wrong, because I don't know. I think that I made that up. But I think that that's very funny to think about. And that's probably something that he did do. They left me alone and they let me alone and they're saying goodbye to my dad. And I saw the hole.

And I thought I'd dig around in there. See what I can find. Okay. YouTube's got these new ads, right? So things are about to get. If you love ads, this is great news. Huge news for ad lovers. Huge news for ad lovers. Everybody out there's talking about it. They started this pilot program in 2023. It was a huge hit for ad firms and for Google and a huge disappointment for everyone else who's not an ad firm or not Google. Basically, when you pause YouTube, it has ad, you'll start seeing ads now. I don't think that they play. I think that they play. I think that

just like banner ads. Which if you use YouTube, you know that the whole thing is slowly becoming on YouTube. You should pull up that screenshot you have of just the way they currently

implant ads on. The mid-roll ads. So you'll be... So what I try to do... If you're an audio listener, I'm sorry, but you're going to just have to... So YouTube has this function where when we upload, we

tell it like, hey, there's a little bit of explicit language, whatever, and it says, okay, you're still good to post ads. And then it says, do you want to place, you basically have no choice. It's just either it's going to have ads or it's not. And then when we hit publish, it automatically populates the entire timeline with mid-roll ads. And it takes a minute for it to like figure out where to place them. And then sometimes I forget, but I like to go in almost immediately. and delete as many as possible, because otherwise, it's going to make it unwatchable.

And I just screenshot of this. There are one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, eighteen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty, over the course of, uh, seventy minutes. That's just, I actually don't know if every single person watching would get one at all of these intervals but still so i go in and i delete like all except for two it's because my my thought is if you're watching it and you keep getting these i'm just going to click out i'm not going to watch this shit no matter how much i love the ben and amel show the greatest podcast known a man on on youtube is that what it was voted uh yeah people voted and people voted yeah well that's good

we've got a lot of competition we got uh yeah but we wiped it we're coming from the we're coming for the number three show, talk to a. Talk toa, the Joe Rogi podcast. And Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson's wacky world. Tucker Carlson's wacky world. That's what they should call it. Welcome to the wacky world. I'm Tucker Carlson. Today we're going to be talking about clowns. These scare me. My wife likes them. I don't. So yeah, YouTube says it's meant to be a less interruptive experience. I mean, I guess, because yeah, when you pause it, who cares? If you're not looking, you're not looking. It'll be more money for us, probably to the tune of a tenth of a penny each time you pause.

So please pause our episode every so often. Get that ad. Support any way you can. Also, good news. Hulu, AT&T, Sling TV. They also started doing pause ads. So enjoy it while you can, folks. It sucks, though.

I always joke that, you know, we exist to consume ads. That's all we were put on this planet for. but I think Amazon might do it I just fucking hate it when I pause something and I see a fucking ad Unless it's an ad

from our show when you pause it I didn't realize I didn't know this was a thing I have a cobo e-reader on Kindle's You have a what

Kobo e-reader It's basically a Kindle competitor Is that named after like a monkey in a zoo Sounds like a monkey name Cobo Kobe the monkey Yeah cobo he was the first monkey

To ever read in captivity Oh wow So they named it after him Don't lie to me because I'll believe you. Go on. Cobo was the monkey that they told that... Trying another? That Robin Williams died and it cried.

Yeah. That was Coco. That was Coco. Yeah, yeah. Got you. But when you... Apparently, you can turn it off by paying, but when you let your Kindle sit, it just... It just plays ads for the schlockiest bullshit AI-generated books that people are trying

to sell. Because the only way I found out was my friend had it sitting there. I was like, are you reading my car goes fast? And they were like, no, it's fucking. So he just looked like a jackass. My brother just found an AI generated Instagram account that's just a bunch of like face app looking faces of this guy. And it's got like 40,000 followers.

And then when you go to who the account is following, It's following a bunch of similar-looking accounts, and we couldn't figure it out. And then I just concluded it's probably a bunch of AI bots interacting with each other, farming clicks and whatnot for who knows why. For who knows why. Yeah, God knows why. I can't wait until it's all AI. I can.

I don't want it yet. No, I want to be able to just put on – I just want something to talk to me. Yeah. Well – and if I'm all out of my Nazi podcast, in the top 10, then I need something. And I've listened to the latest talk to her. Jesus. God bless her.

Well, speaking of AI, so this is John Mullaney. These are some excerpts. And I, it's so, it's, I'm not a huge fan of his, just mainly because I feel like he wouldn't like me. And Ben preemptively doesn't like someone who he thinks might not like that. Well, I did meet him once, and he wasn't kind. He was just, oh, huh. he was probably high on cocaine though

I'm drunk now that I look back at it should I read this whole thing what do you think I think it's quite funny yeah he said let me get this straight you're hosting a future of AI event I don't think you said where it was this was in San Francisco for Salesforce and it was an event called Dreamforce which is all about the future of AI

and he said let me get this straight you're hosting a future of AI event in a city that has failed humanity's so miserably. Pretty good. That's a good joke. He said, you look like a group who looked at the self-checkout counters at CBS and thought, this is the future. That's pretty good. If AI is truly smarter than us and tells us that we should die, then I think we should die.

And then he said, so many of you feel imminently replaceable. Can AI sit there in a fleece vest? Can AI not go to events and spend all day at a bar? what's important here is that we're looking for solutions and in looking for solutions what we're really after is insights which then lead to success now start prepping the humans for robots some of the vagus language ever devised has been used here in the last three days

the fact that there are 45,000 trailblazers here couldn't devalue the title anymore oh man he said he thanked the attendees for the world you're creating for my son while he will never talk to an actual human again. Instead, a little cartoon Einstein will pop up and give him a sort of good answer and probably refer him to another chat bot.

We're just two guys hitting wiffle balls badly and yelling. He shared an anecdote about how he and his son, who was nearly three, like to play baseball in their front yard. We're just two guys hitting wiffle balls badly and yelling, good job at each other. It's sort of the same energy here at Dreamforce. Love that. The best part of all this is they probably,

probably paid him millions of dollars. $500,000. I would say $500,000. I would say probably more. Really? Yeah, probably a million dollars. He's probably the most popular working stand-up comedian right now. It's surprising that he would take a corporate gig.

I imagine it was one of those situations where they asked him to do it and he gave a joke number. And they were like, okay. And he was like, all right, fuck it. Yeah. And you got to give it to any way. who takes that opportunity to take the money and then also say go fuck yours else i am getting so tired of the bots man i still have not had my insurance reinstated by kaiser permanente for those of you guys following the ben con uh Kaiser permanente saga he still has not had

they told me well you've got to pay us back the you've got to pay us the back and he doesn't have the money because he's broke no they said you got to pay us $1,600 or so and i said okay i paid it and then they said your insurance should be reinstated any day now. You'll get an email. Within a few weeks, I still did not have my insurance reinstated. So I called again. They said, actually, it looks like you owe us about $650 more. And I said, okay, here's my credit card. Charge me. And then they said, we've escalated this to a manager. And it should get reinstated within a week. Two weeks again passed. So I called again last night, because I realized I'm probably going to be getting low on my prescription soon. And I don't want to deal with this again. And the lady, first, I

had to call and talk to a robot. Boner pills and balding medication. My boner, what medication? Boner pills and balding medication? Yeah, because I want to get bald and lose my chronic bonner. And now he's not taking it and he's getting acne. I got, yeah, I called and I was like, they were like, the robot said, I can understand complete sentences, which is bullshit because I'm not going to be able to speak in a coherent

sentence mainly consisting of, I need my medication because I'm turning bald and I'm losing my bonner. And my dick is softening. and it's giving me acne and then it says And no matter how many tits I look at in Rupert Murdoch's magazines, I can't get hard. It doesn't work. And then they say, uh, enter,

please say or enter your member ID number. And so I do and I say everything that they want me to say, my name, my date of birth, oh my God, this story sucks. And then a fucking person comes on the phone. There's going to be no payoff. There's going to be no payoff. What is your member ID number?

And I want to say, cut off. Can you mute his mic. I can't hear the story anymore. I want to say. I want to say. Cut it off. Mute the mic. I almost said to the lady, but I knew you got to be nice because I know it's not her

fault, but I wanted to say, why are you asking me for the fucking member ID lady when I just gave it to the fucking robot? What's the point of the robot? I'm going to, can you end the story now? That's it. So now she said I elevated it. You said that was it. You said that was it.

I escalated it to a manager. And it looks like you're going to get your coverage again. So you can get your boner pills and your bald pills and you're going to lose all those pimples, sir. And I love you. And I said, I love you too. Her name was Ariana. Because I remember thinking, like the grande.

This show's gone off the rails. What time are we at? I feel like the amount of times you tell me about a phone call you had with a... Robot? Just with a customer service rep is too many. We're... I should have done this for Rupert. We've had our limit.

And if I wanted to do that, I could just volunteer at an old folks home. Yeah. don't yeah okay well so that about does it for the end of this episode um shoot did we oh man okay what i'll tell you after uh so why don't you follow us into the bonus the bonus episode we're going to march you right off a cliff dipshit bed of the meal show.com that's bed of the meal show dot com we're going to join you up there at the bonus see you next week