The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 69: Longshoremen Victory
Episode Date: October 10, 2024The longshoremen union and the UMX came to a temporary agreement recently but it only kicked the can to January...and it's not looking good. It's not just about money; it's one of the first major batt...les in the coming war between workers and automation. We'll explain why it's not so simple. PLUS we've got some Harvard nerds who figured out one of the worst use cases for the new $META smart glasses, and a poor Canadian sap who made $306 million dollars and then lost it all. What a week. What an episode. HUGE shout out to Kyla Scanlon and her article on the Longshoremen strike, which you can check out here: https://kyla.substack.com/p/the-biggest-man-made-disaster-ever?r=1lckxb&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true Leave a comment to be featured as the comment of the week next week! And also, like this video, please! Thank you! This episode was shot and edited by Connor Rousseau / @ conrad_roussrad Follow us on instagram! @ benandemilshow @ bencahn @ emilderosa and @ conrad_roussrad Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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You know my first exposure to a longshoreman?
Was it sexual in nature?
No.
Well, you said exposure.
What was your first exposure to a longshoreman?
The wire.
Oh, interesting.
Season two, the stevedores.
The Sabatka clan.
Did you watch The Wire?
No.
I started watching it, but then there was a very, very, very intense graphic sex scene because I started watching it with my mom.
I was like, hey, you want to watch The Wire?
I've heard good things.
and I was like 20 and she goes, okay, and we sit down
and it's just like,
I don't want to watch this with my mom.
Dominic West is McNulty laying into some lady probably.
Yeah, it's just absolutely given being a longshoreman.
I'm looking down town with Benin'Lean.
Tell me what's going on.
Tell me what's going on.
So listen to her not too bad in me.
Tell me what's going on.
tell me what's gone on
oh
sorry
do you have any more
do I have any more
to get out
do
okay
do you feel better
yeah welcome back everybody
it's
we're not going to do it
we're not going to do anything
silly for episode 69
you guys
I don't even know
who cares
yeah exactly
call attention to it
because people were getting
excited. I don't care what people do. To that, all I have to say is grow up. All right. Grow up.
What? What? What? Yeah. Oh, the cool. What am I? Elon Musk? Oh, the cool number.
You wish. Yeah, I wish I was. Man, don't get me started. I'm all hopped up on cold brew.
Are you really? Yeah. And I'm going to try to get it. What? And I'm going to try to keep it together.
And I think I can. I think I can. I think I can. In fact, I know I can. Unbting your jacket. You're getting like so much.
Okay, then, I will unbutton my jacket.
Well, we're going to get into the comments of the week.
Let's do it right now.
Let's do it right now.
Let's do the comment of the week.
Pretty much exactly what we knew was going to happen.
People are in?
Emil, this from, it's Mark Kenny.
I don't like either of these.
My boy has two first names.
But he is a monkey man, and that we got to send out a big Ben and Emil's salute to that.
Emil in a suit looks like the president of a frat.
True.
Fuck you.
Ben in a suit.
Looks like his son died and didn't own a suit before it.
okay uh that's really messed up to make fun of a guy who tragically lost his son my son uh got
squashed to death by the risler in a pee we football game you might have to uh you might have
to explain this one to me honestly coleslaw lover 69 on the ben and emil show dot com said ben and
and emil are just frog and toad you don't know who frog and toad i've seen the pictures they
like ride bicycles together somebody didn't have a child
How dare you?
They were just a couple buddies
whose sexuality was questionable.
Is that?
Yeah.
Oh yeah, Frog and Toad, similar to Burt and Ernie.
It was just like...
Burton Ernie?
I thought they were like sucking fucking ladies all the time.
Bert and Ernie?
Yeah.
No, they are gay.
Gay all the way.
Queer icons, Bert and Ernie?
Queer icons, Bert and Ernie.
He was...
Bert and his Ernie.
All night long.
We're going to do that...
Also, we're going to do the Q&A soon.
We're going to bring that back.
Everything's coming back.
We're busy with the set.
Meatball, I swear to you, there will be a meatball.
I shouldn't say, I swear.
I swear to God.
I do.
I swear to God.
And also, we're going to open the mail.
We got your mail.
Oh, yes.
We're going to do that very easy.
Although a lot of them have been ticking.
No, they haven't.
They're in my apartment now.
And I shook them and I listened.
Oh, man, I can't wait to open that shit.
Hopefully there's not perishables in them.
We open up just like...
It's just rotting.
I would have smelled it by now, but, you know, hard cookies.
Maybe they wrapped it up real good. Maybe they aren't.
Hard cookies.
You know what?
We'll do, because we'll post it.
We'll make a little post in the, on the Ben and a Meals.
Yeah, how about that, folks?
We're going to post the PBO box in the thing.
But let's get into the episode.
First of all, we got to give a huge shout out to everybody in the eye of, not in the
I'm in the path of Hurricane Milton.
Be safe down there and leave.
My God, what a fucking absolute, so scary.
They're telling that I was listening to the mayor of Tampa on the radio.
Oh, and she's basically like if you don't leave your dead.
Yeah, leave.
Please leave.
Yeah, but the, what?
It's so infuriating.
Leave.
I mean, there's a ton of people who can't leave.
What, like people in hospitals?
Are you giving, or just people who don't have the money?
for a hotel or a flight or whatever.
And now, of course, the prices are surging.
A flight out of Tampa is like $1,500.
Oh, my God.
Of course they are.
So I'm just like, what do you want anyone to do?
Yeah.
Or like open up the freeways in both directions so that everybody is not stuck in traffic.
And don't price gouge people.
Yeah.
Although Kamala was like, I'm going to institute, we're going to stop price gouging.
And everyone was like, I'll kill you, you communist pig.
So I don't know what anyone wants.
Yeah.
Oh, and my favorite has been the, I mean, it shouldn't even call attention to it,
but some of the wackadoos in the conservative party saying that it's like cloud,
they can do cloud seating.
Yeah, they can.
Oh, Marjorie Taylor Green.
Yeah, but it's not like you can create a full-blown fucking hurricane.
I don't know.
I like her.
She's got gumption.
You absolute numbskull.
You're just jealous because she can do more pull-ups.
She probably could do more pull-ups.
Definitely.
Have you seen her whip?
on that bar? Have you, have you seen her, um, her lats? She's got lats, man. She got,
called, yeah. Do you see the way this guy gets flustered? Talking about Marjorie
Tyler Green? Sometimes she just does something to me, man. She's just, uh, I'm just picturing
my head between those thighs. She's getting crushed. Like a watermelon. Yeah, and I'm just going,
and she's going, you fucking Jew, you know, you don't you? You control the weather, don't you? You
You do it. Admit it. Admit it. Just admit it. And I'm going, I admit it. I admit it. She's squeezing me. Yeah, you little fucking too. That's also what I imagine. Who's that black rapper, a woman? Who's a little crazy? I never.
No, I never fuck Drake. Rihanna. No. Nikki Minaj. I imagine Nikki Minaj would treat me the same way. She'd be like, you fuck just on top of me, just going, you fucking duke.
I think we're going to have to wrap this segment up.
Ben has had too much cold, bro.
But she's using a different word.
She's using the slur word on me on top of me.
No, that's enough of that segment.
And that thing was called the intro to the episode.
Oh, we got a whole.
We just wanted to wish that everyone was safe in the path of the hurricane.
It's important to remember that's what we wanted to do.
Yeah, I really do.
And hopefully zero people get hurt or,
killed because there's anyway let's talk about something more uplifting which is a bit of um
would we call this corporate greed yeah we could file it under that we could file it under a lot of
it's fighting corporate greed yeah i think it is an uplifting story you you may have heard about it
maybe you didn't because it came and went but it's it really didn't come and go there was
people were talking if anything we're talking about the longshoremen and and the very
brief. If anything, we're talking about the longshoremen.
What, what, what, what, you do, uh, everybody, you know what a longshoreman is, huh?
Do you know? We're talking about the longshoremen. We're talking about the longshoremen strike.
They came and went and it's going to, it's not, it is temporarily, it's just temporarily over, but it's going to come back.
And I don't know that they're going to be able to solve this thing. So longshoremen are the guys working down at the harbor.
Did you know this? Did you know this before the strike?
what a longshoreman was yeah yeah my dad works oh my god i know i was leading you there don't
oh oh yeah yeah so yeah my daddy my daddy worked down at the harbor and he worked in an office he
was not like uh he was doing stolen valor my dad was doing longshoreman stolen valor uh but no
there are the guys who uh load containers and cargo onto and off of ships
Among other things, and my dad hated working there.
He hated it because to hear him talk about it, he was like, man, boy, those buttons are,
let's just, we need to get a meal a new suit here.
It's like when you're in the mob and you kill a guy and you get out there and you're digging a hole to bury him.
And then you and the other guy's shovel, clank, they hit.
Oh, that's awkward.
And the other guy stops to joke about, hey, hey, look, I'll shut up.
Well, just keep digging the tunnel.
Yeah.
I mean, keep digging the hole.
We got to put this body in this.
Well, so these longshoremen are in a union, and I believe on the West Coast, we've got the ILWU, is one of them.
And then on the other one is the International Longshoremen's Association, which includes cities like Houston, Miami, New York, New Jersey.
And their contracts get renegotiated every six years.
You know, my first exposure to a longshoreman?
Was it sexual in nature?
No.
Well, you said exposure.
What was your first exposure to along short?
The wire.
Oh, interesting.
Season two.
The stevedores.
The stevedores?
Yeah.
Huh.
I just remember my dad telling me that...
The Sabatka clan.
Did you watch the wire?
No.
I started watching it, but then there was a very, very, very intense graphic sex scene because I started
watching it with my mom.
I was like, hey, you want to watch the wire?
I've heard good things
and I was like 20
and she goes
okay
and we sit down
and it's just like
it's just
I don't want to watch
this with my mom
is McNulty
laying into some lady
probably
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So, uh, the longshoremen are very interesting.
because it's very much a good old boys club.
It's like if you know somebody, you're practically in.
Case in point.
Just went on the bow.
I have a video of Gary, and I'm going to share it in the bonus.
But Gary's son, Travis, briefly wanted to be a longshoreman.
And Gary knew a guy in the union who was very high up.
And he said, you got the way to enter into the lottery when they opened it up.
like thousands of people enter this lottery to become a longshoreman, to start at the bottom
and start working your way up. You got to fill out this postcard. And Gary's friend said,
here, give him this special postcard. They basically just probably got a special mark on it that's
like, oh, this is someone's kid or someone knows somebody. And he got right in. Yeah, I think that's a lot of
unions. Yeah. They're difficult to get into. And yeah, which doesn't inherently, I'm not making a judgment call
that's the funny thing about this when you know when this happened and i don't know if we want to
start with maybe playing the union boss video so people can have a little bit of a better idea of
who was the head of this guy yeah what's his name harold harold harold dagger
daggett daggett my name yeah picture what harold daggett would look like and that's him
and for the audio listener he does have a big old chain he got a big old metal he got a big old gold
chain he's got a white goatee and a bald head and looks like possibly designer glasses yeah oh for sure
let's hit play let's check it but today's world it's changing into the future they're not making millions
no more they're making billions and they're spending it fast as they make it i want a piece of that for my men
because when they made their most money was during covid when my men had to go to work on those peers
every single day when everybody stayed home and went to work.
Not my men.
They died out there with the virus.
We all got sick with the virus.
We kept them going.
From Canada to Maine, Texas, Great Lakes, Puerto Rico,
now the Bahamas.
Everybody wants to work on COVID.
Nobody stayed home.
Well, I want to be compensated for that.
I'm not asking for the world.
They know what I want.
They know what they want.
And if they don't, no.
then I have to go into the street
and we have to fight for what we
rightfully deserve.
These people today don't know what a shrike is.
Right.
When my men hit the streets
from Maine to Texas, every single
port will lock down.
You know what's going to happen?
I'll tell you.
First week,
be all over the news every nine,
boom, boom. Second week.
Guys who sell cars
can't sell cars because the cars ain't
coming in off the ships, they get laid off. Third week, malls start closing down. They can't
get the goods from China. They can't sell clothes. They can't do this. Everything in the United
States comes on a ship. They go out of business. Construction workers get laid off because the
materials aren't coming in. The steel's not coming in. The lumber's not coming in. They
lose their job. Everybody's hating the longshoremen now.
because now they realize how important our jobs are.
Now I have the president screaming at me,
I'm putting a Taff Hartley on you. Go ahead.
Taff Hartley means I have to go back to work for 90 days.
It's a cooling off period.
Do you think when I go back for 90 days,
those men are going to go to work on that pier?
It's going to cost the company's money to pay their salaries
while they went from 30 moves an hour, maybe to eight.
They're going to be like this.
Who's going to win here in the long run?
run you're better off sitting down and let's get a contract and let's move on with this world
and today's world i'll cripple you i will cripple you and you have no idea what that means
nobody does i i love this guy i don't want to get crippled i'm obsessed with this guy i and
so that's uh i was surprised to see the reaction to a lot of this um i think i'm always surprised
but this is a guy he's talking about the power that labor has he's tired of being fucked with
throughout this whole point
they're flexing
the idea that
the so this is all
what is it USMX
the US Maritime Association
yeah
and that's you know that's all the
the ports the shippers
alliance alliance
the alliance
um
that's
all of these
the longshoremen work for them
they're unloading
um
they're unloading the ships from them
and
they're pointing out
how they have record profits
And it's not just millions anymore. It's billions. They're making so much more money. And he's saying, we deserve a piece of this. None of it's possible without us. In fact, if we were to go on strike tomorrow, you're absolutely fucked.
Yeah. Even just the three days that they went on strike. So it was 45,000 dock workers across 36 ports. They went on strike for just a few days. But now they've got a tentative deal that's calling for... So the ILA, the Longshoreman, they wanted a 77%
wage increase, whereas the USMX was only offering 50%.
And that's the terminal operators, the port associations, and the ocean shipping companies.
The shipping companies are the ones who are making by far the most money and the biggest profits.
So this tentative deal that they've got calls for a 62% wage hike over the next six years,
which will bring the average wage from $39 an hour to $63 per hour.
but it only extends this current contract to January 15th.
And like I said, that three-day strike is going to take a month to clear because you had
cargo that gets rerouted via air and sea to other ports, containers arrive in the wrong
places, it's just a big mess.
And at first blush, you think that it's about the wage increase, but it's actually a lot,
it's, it goes beyond that.
And it's a bigger overall conversation that this is like the perfect.
Right, because there was two parts of it.
The wage part is a big part of it, which is pretty cut and dry.
They deserve the wage increase.
They deserve to share in the profits.
The more confusing and more difficult thing to figure out is the automation.
They're obviously pretty anti-automation.
They think it's going to cost them their jobs.
It's confusing because the ports obviously need.
to advance and be more efficient.
But some people have pointed out that
some ports that have already automated
have led to, you know, they're talking about like a 5%
decrease in the workforce, which already is thousands of jobs.
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They wanted a ban.
They want a ban on automation of cranes, gates, and container moving trucks.
So just all of the main pieces of the ports.
They also wanted better job security.
They wanted something called touch fees,
which is payments that Longshoremen get
for each container that they handle.
And a good friend of the show,
Kyla Scanlan actually wrote a very, very good,
easy to understand, comprehensive read.
We'll link it in the description.
But yeah, she pointed out that the top 10 carriers,
the top 10 shippers have 90% of the market cornered and it's funny they actually benefit from
these strikes yeah they they profit because the strikes give them shipping gets way more expensive it's
just like how they all their fucking profits went crazy during the pandemic that's right and a standard
40 foot container normally costs about four to five thousand dollars to ship from europe to the
USA but with uh not only peak season with you know the holidays coming up and strikes surcharges the
rate just went up 30 to 40%.
Yeah. So while you're jumping in the shower, every time
you take a shit because you don't know any toilet paper, this guy's
printing money. Not me, baby,
because I got that bidet.
Oh, man. But before we even get into the automation
stuff, I want to talk about the
just the reaction to some of this. I found it so crazy. In my mind, I would
think that a lot of people... Oh, online?
Yeah. And I mean,
some stuff is going to be
expected. Anything from right wing, obviously they're
going to be pro-corporation, anti-labor.
So you have things like, if you want to pull up one of that first tweets, it's the New York
Post.
Of course, they're jumping in here.
They're looking at...
Oh, yeah.
Because, to be clear, that guy we're...
That guy we played, him talking, he does make a ton of money.
Yeah.
He's the top.
He's the top dog.
And people are pointing out not only his, but they also called out that the average salary
for a lot of these people was around $147,000 a year, which is a lot. But they're also pointing
out that's with heavy amounts of overtime. Yeah, because their wages have actually gone
down. Yes. Recently. Yeah. Before this strike, the wages were going down. And the, you know,
the average for without overtime was something closer to $80,000. So, yeah, the New York Post
is pointing out that this guy lives in a pretty luxurious situation. He's got a very big house.
He's got a Bentley.
We don't know if that Bentley's used or not.
It might be a used Bentley.
He's got a yacht.
Okay, might be a used yacht.
Maybe he bought it with other guys in the union.
But it's just a very,
but watching people doing this,
I don't quite understand the point.
Just because he's making a lot of money,
he doesn't deserve to,
and he's labor,
he doesn't deserve to share in the profits of,
I guess.
Of what these shipping companies.
Ooh, and it looks like he's got a fancy pool cover on too.
And the best part is,
I'd be even more pissed if he was living like this
and then was forcing his guys to go,
take a deal that wasn't good for that. Yeah, sure. So he's living like this and going,
I want to get all my guys fucking banked up too. That's a fucking real dude. It's like they're
using him as a poster child, like, oh, the union boss is making this much. That just goes to
show how greedy these longshoremen are. They're all yoked up like this. My dad was good friends
with one of the ILWU. Like, I think he was the head of the union for a long time. He was a huge
guy. It's got to be a big guy. He was huge. And then,
Then he died of, like, black lung or something.
Just being down, exposed to all that shit for so long.
That's tough.
This guy had bags under his eyes.
You could carry, you could carry, you could carry your groceries in this guy's eye bags.
He was huge.
You know that, you know that famous euphemism.
Yeah.
But anyway, there's more.
Well, should we talk about what they were, because at, I was a very surprising.
These are from regular people.
So obviously, it's to be expected from the post.
but seeing regular people with like tons of click the second one with the uh just being like just
calling out oh yeah this point i hope the i la gets crushed outlawed and cast into the fire
to suffer uh in a very literal sense they want to make you personally poor to enrich themselves
that's actually not true at all they want to take money they're underscoring the corporations that
are getting so much money um can you go back uh the and the next one someone pointed out
that they retweeted his tweet and said, you know, you're calling the longshoremen a mob.
And this is the percent of the S&P 500 market cap that are under antitrust investigation right now.
It's 43% of the entire thing.
All these companies.
Want to give a huge shout out.
Fuck you to Kroger.
They just settled a lawsuit in California.
Albertsons, they were overcharging people.
So I just this got to love that government regulation doing its thing.
to some of these, oh, this one, also, they tried to paint it as a race thing. Someone, someone tweeted,
seeing the unions about to shut down the ports as they seek to ruin the economy, starting to
miss leftists, denouncing white males for their privilege and putting them in their place. Yeah,
that would be nice, right? And then, uh, you actually don't even, you could just scroll down.
Someone, um, someone, um, someone hit him with it. Look at all these, look at all those privileged white longshoremen
at the port of Charleston. And that was something I wanted to point out when you're talking about
how hard it is to get into this. Yeah. Yes, that's true. But it's also, it's, it's, it's, it's,
It's a pretty diverse group of people fighting for what they deserve.
Okay, so let's go back to what the UMX, what they were getting offered.
So it wasn't just this 50% raise that they were offered.
They were also offered triple employer contributions to retirement plans.
That's fucking huge.
Stronger health care options, but they also wanted to retain the current language in the
contract around automation and semi-automation, which is exactly why the union rejected the offer.
So I learned something from reading Kyla's article about this, and I did not know this.
Ben learned something, everybody.
You learn something new every day.
The ILA, the same union that is going on strike.
And by the way, this is not me making a judgment call.
I'm just speaking to.
Emil alluded to it earlier.
and Kyla underscores this as well.
Automation is going to happen.
It's going to come.
We shouldn't just pay these people off and say,
all right, get the fuck out of here, get out of the way.
Automation's here to take your job.
No, there are other solutions that can and very well should be implemented.
That's what you learned today?
No, I learned that the ILA opposed containerization in the 1950s.
And what is that?
That's exactly what it sounds like.
Before the 1950s, they didn't have containers like you see on ships.
Everything was just loaded piecemeal.
Yeah, it's like if you've ever seen, what's the Marlon Brando movie?
Oh, yeah, streetcar named Desire from 100 fucking years ago.
Well, he's a dock worker.
Oh, yeah.
Back then, boy, that was a risky-ass job.
And it's all just coming in on like ropes.
Yeah, guys were getting crushed to death all the time.
I could have been a contender.
And so when they containerize things, it sort of standardized.
stuff, and it brought the cost of per ton loading from $6 to $16 and made things way safer.
And as Kyla points out, you can't fight technology, whether it be in the 1950s with containers.
I know that that's, I mean, back then that was a sort of technology.
Yes, it's like a, there's like a long tradition of this, right?
The Luddites who are often misunderstood as people who hate technology.
They were people who were fighting for, they weren't against the technology.
They didn't end up destroying machines and stuff.
but it was because they wanted to be included in the profits.
Yes.
So as efficiency goes up, they say, why are the wages not going up?
Yes.
Okay, so efficiency goes up and up and up and companies are making tons of money, but where are wages?
Yes.
And rightfully so, the ILA is petrified that these companies are going to do what companies want to do
and just bring in the robots and tell everybody to fuck off.
And this is...
Which is the true.
Which is the point.
Right.
It's important.
Like, it's not a side effect.
that some people get laid off.
It is the goal.
Corporations and companies are like,
God damn, labor's pretty expensive.
Oh, baby, they'll fuck you.
If you bend over to pick up something,
they're going to try to slip it.
Sorry, that's a bad.
Yeah, why don't you relax?
They're just going to try to fuck you.
They're going to try to rob you.
They're going to try to rob you.
Because that's what they are designed to do,
except for Costco.
But that's why...
Costco has a really good CEO
who doesn't take a lot of pay
and that man is...
He's Jesus.
That's why I have been so shocked at the response to this.
Obviously, I get it from the New York Post, but seeing an example of someone using their power...
Because people are stupid, man.
I guess.
I mean, there's another...
There's one more.
I just want to point out.
Someone created this little meme.
Do you see the Elon one?
Click that.
Elon could automate this whole thing.
So Longshoremen need to get their mind right.
And someone took a picture of the leader, said, careful, fat boy.
Elon could automate the whole thing this weekend.
Where's your 900K per year then?
And it's just like...
What is wrong with these guys?
These guys are so fucking backward.
I just don't get all the dick riding for people who hate you or want to kill you.
Yeah.
And also, I mean, they, they, they, I'm just echoing other people's sentiments who have phrased it much better than I.
But just as a side note here, these, these conservative guys are so scared about the,
that George Soros is the foreign billionaire who's, like, influencing media and all this shit.
And you've got the biggest billionaire, who's a foreigner, who bought one of the biggest, most important pieces of media dissemination actively...
Forced everyone to see his tweets.
Yeah.
And, like, that's...
Can you imagine if George Soros did that and was forcing everybody to see fucking BLM tweets?
Literally...
They'd all be...
They'd all...
Literally got pissed that Joe Biden's tweet.
got more engagement than his after whatever event and was like, you guys need to fix the
algorithm.
Well, anyway, so the thing that I'm worried about, and again, Kyla points this out, is that if
come January, they aren't able to figure things out and they do go on strike with this automation
stuff, that could be really, really bad for inflation because we just finally got inflation
under control. And I know it doesn't feel like it, but by the metrics that the Fed cares about,
and they're the ones in charge of interest rates, we've got inflation pretty much tamed and in a good
place. But if we see a massive supply chain disruption that would come from a strike from these
dock workers, that could be really, really, really bad. And it could get really bad, really fast.
because as this guy,
I mean, just as we've seen,
three days of them on strike
is going to take like a month to clear.
And as Harold Daggett said himself,
you know,
hey, man,
I can't do it.
I don't remember what he sounded like.
One week, you know,
the car,
the guy selling cars runs out of cars.
Two weeks.
Yeah.
By the way,
you're a hell of a car salesman.
You're saying we can cripple the economy.
Yeah.
But, you know,
it sounds like to me,
it sounds like the USMX
should come to the table
with a serious plan for how automation
could work.
How automation could work.
how they could work together to retrain existing employees and these union workers,
how they can come up with, there's got to be a better way than just robot comes in,
robot takes job, but man is it a sexy robot.
But this is going to be every industry for now on.
Yes, that's why they are at the front line of this.
That's why these fucking, these dorks who are railing against them, they don't have second
and third order thinking like you and I do.
See, because we're smart, right?
Well, and it also just seems like it's always going to be, it's always going to be, it's
always going to be labor that is going to be at the forefront of this fight when there are tons of,
you know, white collar jobs that could be automated away. But people are like, no, that's,
that's serious work. And I mean, just during this whole thing, I just am so pissed about, you know,
no one complains about tech CEOs, not even tech CEOs, people who work at tech companies
and make 600, 700K to what? Tinker around on the fucking AI algorithm. So we burn the planet. But they're
like, dude, that's worthwhile work.
Yeah.
These people are fucking unloading docks all day while everyone's dying from an infectious
disease.
You know, I wanted to be a longshoreman.
I wanted to be a crane operator.
And my dad was like, you are not going to do that.
Because you're not cut out for it.
No, it's because he recognized that it was my little child autistic brain being like,
oh, giant crane, this is fun.
Because I got to ride in one one time and control the thing.
And it blew my little mind.
And yeah, he just...
By the way, Travis got the job as a longshoreman, and he quit after a month.
He was like, I totally understand how so many of these guys, I'm sorry, become alcoholics and drug addicts because it is grueling.
It's a fucking hard job.
It's very, very, very hard, very stressful.
But this isn't, you know, even traditionally industries where you wouldn't think that automation or whatever it would be called in that industry, Hollywood, is suffering the same thing where they have to fight with their bosses to make sure they're not automated away.
Every time they film a movie, they're not like, well, we captured your likeness on this thing.
We're just going to make entire franchises out of that.
So a couple things as we wrap up this topic.
It's not like automation takes the blink of an eye.
Shanghai, for example, their port took four to six years to implement automation.
And it's also worth noting that, you know, the ports of Long Beach in Los Angeles are number one at being dead last.
The worst.
We are the least efficient.
ports in the world.
Number 351.
No, 370.
New York and New Jersey are below 251st because we have little to no automation.
And guess what?
The cost of that inefficiency gets passed on to the loser consumer.
You and me and everybody.
That's right.
And that's not me blaming the ILA.
That's me blaming, I don't know, corporations.
Figure it out, guys.
That's what you're getting paid the millions of dollars.
understand the argument that like it takes well. I saw someone else talk about how it could be
six to eight years before they get some of these automated. It's like, okay, so in six to eight
years, a bunch of people are going to lose their jobs. Well, hopefully if they, if they structure
it in such a way, because obviously someone's got to, I don't mean how this sounds, but someone's
got to make sure that these robots are working, right? And you know, oiling them up and whatnot.
There's good, there's, there's a way to make it a hybrid thing, that to make it retrain people,
You can obviously retrain people so they are, you know, maybe not on the ground pulling containers off of ships.
But you don't, I don't think you need that many people running the automated machines.
Yeah, probably not.
Plus, I mean, a human is going to have way more fun offloading those things than a machine would.
I know I sure did.
I had such a good time.
They find no time.
They find no joy.
We shouldn't let them do anything.
Yeah.
It's a completely joyless.
And when there's happiness going into, that gets passed on to the goods.
You know, when I get my TV, I know that it was unloaded at the port of Los Angeles by a guy who was having a good time doing it.
And it makes the TV more enjoyable.
There's going to have to be a much, you know, even outside of this industry, there's just going to have to be a much bigger solution to all of this as everyone wants to automate everything away.
I remember, I mean, this was like probably 2015.
Obama was in office.
Let me be clear.
But my friend's dad worked for IBM.
And I wasn't even trying to be a shit.
I was just, but he was talking about how they were working on automation and all this stuff.
And I was like, do you guys also have plans for?
What happens to you?
No, what happens if like, okay.
so you go automate this factory and all those jobs go away. Do you guys like think about that at all?
And he was like, shut up, kid. No, he was like, they're not good jobs. Like, someone would say
about the longshoremen. Like, this is a really difficult job and we're making it way easier to do.
And I'd be like, yeah, but it's still a job. Like, it's got to be replaced or there's got to be new jobs.
Yeah. And he's just like so confused. He's like, you don't get it. It's a difficult, like,
a robot's going to do it now. And I'm like, yeah, I know. But what happens?
to the person.
Oh, oh, oh, that's what you mean.
Oh, we're going to kill him.
Yeah.
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
We're going to kill that person.
You mean the guy's shoveling shit that the robot's doing now?
Actually, we'll pay him to then stand there and take the shit in the face.
Can let's move on?
Let's shift gears, shall we?
Oh, man, this one's depressing.
Oh, baboo.
This one is depressing.
And it's, this is a, we don't have to talk about it for too long, but it's a perfect
example of a, uh, you know, this is the real, this is the guy who ever, all of your
eye are should be focused on. Um, there was a impact plastics as a company down in
Tennessee. Yep. And Irwin Tennessee. Irwin, Tennessee. And you might have heard about the story
because I obviously had no idea what, had no idea what impact plastics was because of this, but
started seeing people getting interviewed employees from impact plastics. You know,
crying, extremely upset and distressed at the fact that, uh, a, I think it was 11 of them went
missing. Yeah. And four of them at this point are dead and some are still not uncovered. But
they had to come in and work during Hurricane Helene. Yeah. On September 27th, there were
11 of these workers at this point. There's, there's one road in and one road out. And there's
And an area that's famously prone to flooding.
Yeah.
And the company is saying that, oh, there were no, like, harsh weather report warnings on that day.
So that's why people went into work.
But that directly contradicts the weather services.
Oh, complete fucking lie.
When the first shift at the Impact Plastics factory started at 7 a.m. last Friday,
the company claimed there was no flooding alert or warning.
Water started to pool in the parking lot around 10.35 a.m.
The power plant went out at 1039 a.m. and public warnings were sent out.
That contradicts the multiple flood and storm alerts, along with public warnings from the National Weather Service that were issued for the area, including the Irwin Plastics plant prior to the start of the workers' last shift.
A flood watch, which included warnings of Helene's rain, was issued for the area on Tuesday.
And a flood warning from the National Weather Service was issued at 3.59 p.m. local time on Thursday.
Yeah, I just don't understand. Even without those weather reports, if I own a company,
like this and a fucking goddamn hurricane is coming
through town. I'm not going to be like, well,
you guys just, I mean, play it by ear. Let's go in. No, you're kidding
the day. Maybe that's just how it is in hurricane land
where they're used to having to go into work. I'm sure he plays it a little
faster and loose because of his
yeah, because they probably see more heavy rains.
Well, 11 of these workers. I actually forgot to send this to
to Connor because, but I'm going to, can you check
the slack there's a the CEO yeah did you see the picture of him yeah he looks yeah um so so this is the
uh this is gerald o'connor for the audio listener just imagine what the CEO of a 20 million
dollar regional plastics corporation might look like and now imagine him kneeling next to his
portion 9-11 turbo with a shit eating grin on his face um but so no you're not going you're going to
stay in work. Goddammer. People heard about this. Obviously, there's a backlash to it.
And, you know, he wants to get ahead of this story. He doesn't feel like he did anything wrong.
Yeah. And it's tragic because 11 workers got swept up. They had to seek refuge on the back of a
flatbed truck. And then the truck got swept up. And I think at last count, yeah, five or
now confirmed dead. One is still missing. So I just don't. Can you play his little statement?
Because I found, it's hard on an apology.
I found this.
I'm Gerald O'Connor, founder and president of Impact Plastics in Irwin, Tennessee.
Due to death threats against me and my family and to reduce distress on local law enforcement
that now needs to be focused on recovery operations.
I'm with you by this video.
The flood of September 27th took from our Impact Plastics family,
some great employees.
Do we need to watch this whole thing?
Is he just...
One was a personal friend of more than 30 years
of working together.
I want you to...
He describes his account.
We are heartbroken as you are
about our loss
and will keep those
who have now passed in our hearts forever.
And he basically clears himself
of any wrongdoing.
Following that day,
I ordered an immediate review
of the events
and the timeline
of what occurred that morning.
Beginning as soon
as a last surviving
employees and a count of those who are missing were addressed. With help from the National Guard,
we were able to help secure the rescue five of our employees by helicopter. Today, we share
that preliminary report with the public. The findings are that employees were told to leave the
plant at least 45 minutes before the gigantic force. Oh, what? Forty-five fucking minutes?
escape. Keep going.
So the flood hit the industrial park.
There was time to escape. Hardly.
Employees were not told at any time that they would be fired if they left the plant.
Far.
After checking to make sure everyone was out of our plant and to rescue important files,
I was one of the last people to leave the plant and luckily escape.
to our knowledge
he just peels out in his porch
no one perished
while on company property
I mean you can
what did that happen
how does that happen
if you're one of the last people
leave the plant
but 11 people don't
aren't it
I doubt that you're that light
on your feet sir
you don't appear to be
just by age alone
sorry to be ageist
but this man is old as fuck
and he looks like
droopy the dog
furthermore
but I don't understand that
I was one of the last slave
let's check in on
the comments. I wonder what people are probably...
Oh, man, they probably got them... People are probably buying what he's saying.
Zoom in a little bit. Scroll up to the top.
I'm getting death threats. Man responsible for actual deaths. This man is the
disgusting excuse for a human being. He should be robbed in prison.
Aye, aye, y. Babu. All right. So that happened and it's so tragic. And folks, if you're,
if you ever find yourself in the unfortunate position as these workers where you've got a
kind of choose between working and living choose living i mean that's a that's such a difficult
thing i know i i there was not the first time something like this is happening there was a
a couple people who because there's obviously inevitably tweets going like why are these people
even on these fucking roads why are these people not evacuating their homes and then people
responding being like because i don't have any fucking money yeah i had to go to work i can't afford
a hotel yeah i can't afford to oh boy yeah yeah
Yeah, well, may their souls rest in peace, those poor people.
Jesus Christ.
Well, let's shift gears to something a little more upbeat, shall we?
You got something a little lighter for us?
Hey, we got a huge shout out to these Harvard guys.
At first I said it.
We talked about the Rayban glasses last week.
Yeah, yeah.
And you were like, dude, I can't wait.
I think that they're cool.
I'm going to be.
I'm going to be probably using them.
My LASIC is probably going to wear off.
and I'm going to need to be an augment.
I want to be a hybrid human.
You called Mark Zuckerberg Zaddy.
Mark Zuckercorn.
Oh, God, he's, I don't know what it is.
What a transformation.
And we all know what it is, actually.
He just let his hair go a little wild.
And he wore a bigger shirt.
He also got fit.
He started going crazy.
He could kick people's asses now, and he's no longer scared.
Was he scared before you think?
Yeah, he looked petrified.
He looked like a scared alien.
Congresswoman.
Yeah.
Now he'd be like,
Pardon me, trick.
Yeah, but have you seen our stock price lately?
AOC, can I stop you?
Shut the fuck up for a second.
Shut the fuck up for a second.
Yeah.
But so I loved what you said about these guys, which was,
hey guys, stop doing that.
Because these two Harvard students found a really awful use case for these glasses.
Well, they're just pointing it out.
They're pointing it out.
Let's play the video of them, shall we?
The video is wild.
Yeah, we got these two smart.
Harvard guys. We built... This is just the video episode. We built classes that let you identify
anybody on the street. The information a tool collects from just a photo of your face
is staggering. Wow. To use it, you just put the glasses on, then as you walk by people,
the glasses will detect when somebody's face is in frame. This photo is used to analyze them,
and after a few seconds, their personal information pops up on your...
Wow.
June Lee, right?
You're a...
Anyway, let's...
Well, I want, because...
Can you keep going?
Because they do...
They start doing it to some strangers out in the world, and it's...
Oh, wow.
Oh, yeah, because that was just his...
Yeah, they do it.
You're the audio listener, the glasses immediately can pick your face.
They built an AI platform that can...
So, look, trying it on a real person on the subway.
Oh, hi, ma'am.
Wait, are you a...
Batsy...
Yes.
Oh, okay. I think I, uh, I think I met you through, like, the Cambridge Community Foundation, right?
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
It's great to meet you. I'm Kane.
Did you not watch the whole thing?
No, I didn't.
Keep going, keep going.
He doesn't do another guy.
Oh, wait.
Do you happen to the person working on like minority stuff for like Muslims in India at all or something?
Really?
Are you Kashif?
Yes.
Oh, I've read your work before.
I wonder if they tell him after.
I hope so.
I'm Anfu, nice to meet you.
Oh, I love...
But are you a Sarah Chan?
This one's probably staged.
So here's how it works.
We streamed the video from the glasses, straight to Instagram and have a computer
program, monitor the stream.
We use AI to detect when we're looking at someone's face.
Then we scour the internet to find more pictures of that person.
Finally, we use data sources like online articles and voter registration databases to figure
out their name, phone number, home address, and relative's names.
And it's all fed back to an app we wrote on our phone.
Using our glasses, we were able to identify dozens of people, including Harvard students,
without them ever even knows.
See, now let's stop.
See, this is great for me because I see cute women in the wild all of the things.
time. No, dude. And I just want to say, let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish.
This would be useful for me. So that I. We know. No, no, because instead of having to ask things,
you, I'm, yeah, I mean, that was the number one complaint, women being like, do not, you need to shut this down.
You're making women so unsafe. That's what they're doing here. They are, they're, they're,
No, because Zuck was like...
It can reveal, so here's the catch.
It can reveal a person's name, address, phone number, and biography just from a single
look at you using public data within 90 seconds.
And it's legal.
And they said that they'd, so these guys didn't do it to be like, hey, check it out.
All the in cells are going to be able to, they're doing it to expose, they're showing...
No, I know they are.
But so when 404 media approached meta for comment about the project, it said that
similar information gathering could be used with any camera like sorry not our fucking problem i wonder how
true that is i mean i'm sure that it could but it would it would be way more involved the thing about
the metaglasses is that they are discreet these people that they're obviously if we come up with
one of these and go like obviously this has been a problem since the internet started yeah right
and with each iteration of uh instagram it all makes it much easier to i mean we fucking geotag
our own shit.
But this is just so much more...
Yeah. We need Moudang to swim to the bottom of the ocean and chew up them cables, man.
That would... Can you imagine?
You think she's capable?
No, I don't. Her body would pop, like one of those billionaires on the subway.
I don't know if Moodang is actually mentally healthy. She seems kind of angry.
That's just what baby pygmy hippos are like.
Oh, okay. Then never mind.
They're all a bit rambunctious and like to bite little butts.
Mark Zuckerhorn is too busy, absolutely, man, this guy is crazy about his wife.
What do you mean he's crazy about? He's crazy about his wife. He loves his wife so much.
Well, why does that mean? I don't think we should say that. I think it should be a good thing to love you.
Well, yeah, but you and I aren't going to be able to do this. Actually, I will because I'm cool like that.
I already bought my wife a Porsche. Yeah. He posted on, he posted on his Instagram, new side quest.
Priscilla wanted a minivan. So I've been designing something. I'm pretty sure.
exist. A Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT minivan.
Threw in a manual GT3 touring to make it his and hers.
Thanks Porsche and West Coast Customs for helping to make this happen.
Do you know where West Coast Customs is?
I drive by it all the time. You know why?
Why?
And I'm going to get made fun for it in the comments, but it's right across the street from the REI.
I want to stop.
You got nothing?
No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
Oh, Babu. Man, I got a piss so bad.
But you know what?
That's what the coffee's doing.
You know what?
I'm just going to reabsorb it into my body
because that's what I do for you people.
I can't.
Should I just pee?
Yeah, I'll just pee.
Okay, shifting gears here, by the way.
There's a Moudang coin, and I'm kind of ticked off.
Did you buy it?
No, no, no, no.
No, I didn't because I'm stupid.
Although my friend Drew made a ton of money
on something called cheese coin.
Oh, dude, I was in on cheese coin for a while,
but I sold-
Shut up.
Shut up.
No, you didn't.
Shut up.
You didn't know about
cheese coin.
Dude, I was in on cheese coin.
He took his girlfriend
to Italy
because of cheese coin.
That's how we went
on this trip this year.
I just want to,
I just want to KMS sometimes, dude.
Where else are you supposed to go
if you get rich off of cheese coin?
Yeah,
where else are you supposed to go
if you get rich off of cheese coin,
guys?
Wait, I didn't like that so much.
Wait.
Can we edit that out?
Because I don't think people
are going to think that's why.
Let's do a little market update here.
And before we get into it, I got to sneak a little thing in here.
And that's, you know, Moomoo.
I do be using Moomoo, and you do be should be using it too.
And if you check the link...
I'm going to be using Doodoo.
Because, you know, maybe this guy that we're about to talk about should have used it also.
Check the link in the description.
You get a nice little sign-it bonus.
And if you're still in on CheeseCoin, get out.
So imagine this.
Imagine you're a guy named Christopher DeVoct.
Okay, I'm thinking about it.
And which one is it? Check it out. Dude, shut your eyes. Shut your eyes for you. I just wrote my own name. And I'm like, how is it? You're a carpenter just like Jesus in Vancouver Island. You're hammering. And you've got about $65,000 in your Royal Bank of Canada brokerage. That's kind of, that's a lot of loons. And in 2020 and 2021, you are on a role. You are just ripping them Tesla call options and Tesla stock to the point where you make $300,000.
Six.
And I'm celebrating...
Million dollars.
I'm celebrating the only way a Canadian knows how.
Blackface Trudeau style.
All right.
Right on.
Yes.
That is exactly what he did.
No.
He,
he,
this guy turned $65,000 into $306 million
by trading Tesla options and,
uh,
stock and then lost it all when Tesla plummeted,
uh,
the next year in 2022.
I'm going to have to do Indian face Trudeau style.
And he's now, he's suing the Royal Bank of Canada, saying the advice from his advisors that were then assigned to him was negligent and inadequate.
The Royal Bank of Canada considered him to be a sophisticated investor.
The guy was a freaking carpenter, man.
So what?
He got lucky on some options, some incredibly risky options.
That doesn't make him a sophisticated investor, and they should have known that.
And that was his argument that he made.
They failed to appreciate that his knowledge of investing more generally of financial planning.
for instance, and of taxes was limited.
They had advised him to create a company and roll his stock into it to lower his tax
liabilities.
They didn't advise him to diversify, for example, which they should have done.
They should have said, hey, bub, you got way too much Tesla stock now.
It is all concentrated in this one effing company that, by the way, has just gone up
a thousand percent over the last two years.
Why did he not just fucking sell at all?
Because he's...
I don't understand.
I don't understand to.
The minute I hit above 10.
million bucks. I'm out. You're never seeing me again. You're never going to see me again. Actually,
you will. You never see me again. But they set up loan accounts for him to borrow against his
Tesla stake, which is what a lot of rich people do. But then guess what? Tesla starts to drop.
And then poor Christopher, he's got to go back to hammering nails now. He even, I bet he feels bad
for this. He donated $25 million Canadian to charity because they were like,
oi uh you gotta you gotta donate because that's gonna offset some of your tax liabilities no it's not
canadian no i think fuck you wait oh hey there uh you're getting close yeah you better you know we do
advise uh okay no okay i'm really sucking right now and thank god this is toward the end of the
episode because no one's watching nobody's watching anymore so that's that story and i do feel
bad for that guy and hope that he finds his piece that's going to be a big salute from us you know
36 million a zero that's historic buddy i don't know how you live with yourself i i don't know
what the heck i would do well careful because he might yeah but i mean that makes for a cool
story right you you're in the bar yeah that's how he thinks of it yeah i've got let me tell you guys
a cool story what oh yeah yeah and i'm just in
in Trudeau Indian face?
Yeah.
No,
don't mind this.
This is for Halloween
when it's the only time
it's okay.
Well, they wouldn't mind it
because they're Canadians.
They're probably in it too.
Oh, let's wrap it up
with a couple uplifting things.
The feds cleared this
Kalshi company
for betting on the United States election.
So that's good
because we definitely need more stuff to bet on.
You want place bets right now,
maybe?
I think, well,
according to the,
according to the,
the betting markets,
they've got Trump favored to win now,
like 60, 40, something like that.
I don't believe it.
Because remember when we had it all,
it was 90% assured
that Clinton was going to win?
But that's polling.
That's polling.
The betting market is way different.
That is true.
I kind of buy it.
I don't know what to make of it, man.
I'm truly just like,
I'm just got my head down.
I think unless something crazy happens,
I think Trump's going to win.
I do wonder how
these hurricanes are going to affect voting.
That's a good question.
That is a good question.
But.
So vote twice.
Vote three times.
I mean, fucking Elon's mom told everyone to vote like 10 different times.
She's a...
Elon's offering like 47 bucks for anyone you, um, register to vote.
Can you imagine if, uh, if some live was done that?
Imagine if what's the guy he said before, George Soros.
Yeah.
He, Elon Musk's fucking head would explode if he saw, if he saw George Soros tweet what Elon tweeted.
He went on, he went on Tucker Carlson's stupid fucking show. And just seeing the timestamps, it's just the greatest hits of it's just like illegal immigrants, liberals, trans.
I'm dark maga now. Yeah. I said maga bad on purpose to make fun of Ben.
What is it, mag? Yeah. I say maga. I know. I said dark maga. Oh, okay.
make fun of you. Oh, oh, but it is Maga. It's Maga. Maga? What is it short for magazine? You saw him
come out and say I'm dark Maga? Yes, of course I saw it. I saw the footage. I'm convinced now that
he realizes that he's now alienated so much of his customer base that's on the left, that he's now
just kowtowing to his untapped customer base of the right. And he's obviously... Oh, dude. I mean,
once you dip your toes in, you got to go all the way, because... It's also so wild because he's
talking about how on on tucker carlson he was saying um on tucker carlson he was saying oh i know that
a lot of billionaires are petrified because if trump wins they're going to release the epstein client list
and that's why these billioners are scared um brother you're scared that if uh if camilla wins you're
not going to get your precious like government subsidies i don't know what the fuck man i don't know
what he's scared of anymore he he's convinced that he's enemy number one and he's going to go
to jail. Give me a fucking break. No, you're not.
You're not that important, dude.
You're not that danger. Musk thinks he's enemy number one.
He's like, oh, yeah, if Kamala gets elected,
I'll probably, I'll probably go to jail.
And he does the, like,
the, like, reshuffle, the
awkward guy, like body reshuffle.
And then he makes the stupid... He has lost
complete control of his body. Like,
he's all, every... He's, like, shaking hands with Trump.
He then makes it, but he goes...
And the jumps, I mean...
He makes the...
this asinine point that
well isn't it
interesting that nobody has tried to shoot
Kamala or Biden it's because they're not
important
that's his
that's his thing nobody has tried to kill
Kamala or Biden
therefore it's because they're not important
hmm
he just sucks
I mean I'm just tired of him
I hope he gets poisoned
someone
someone got mad at me on
Twitter, because this last rally
was in Butler, PA, where Trump famously
almost got got.
Yeah. But I
retweeted it, because Elon said, I'll be there, and I
retweeted it and said, you know, potential two
for one deal coming up.
And, uh...
Oh, yeah, I saw.
And so, some guy was in my mentions, just like...
He cleared his throat?
You know, it's funny.
As much as I hate Biden and Harris, I would
never wish any harm on them or hope
they get killed.
But I always see Democrats talking about how they want something bad to happen to Trump.
It's just funny the way you see these different.
I was like, I feel like all I see is people on the right being like, I want to string them up.
Wait for that fucking civil war, dude.
I'm going to shoot so many trans black people.
It's not even funny.
I can't wait, man.
Just come try to take my God, man.
I swear to God, oh, man, I just bop up you stupid, fucking liberal.
I was just like, am I missing something?
Yeah.
Well.
Well, folks.
Oh, and then Toyota, I just saw that Toyota invested $500 million into this Joby Air Taxis.
Joby!
Joby!
And I don't know how I feel about these things yet.
They can go pretty fast.
I think they go over 100 miles an hour.
I can't wait to die at 100 miles an hour in the air,
crashing into another air taxi.
just trying to get to the airport.
They're talking about...
Oh, because no one would build a fucking subway.
I have to ride in a goddamn Joby.
Well, or you're just on the ground
because you're too poor to afford one.
Oh, I'm sure they're going to be so expensive.
And due to improper training because they just want to hurry...
Because that's part of this push
is that they're hoping to retrain
existing pilots or like Uber drivers
to offer them training to, hey, you want to be a pilot?
Most people shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car.
Pretty much...
You know, with the destruction of the economy and everything, they've now forced everyone to become an Uber driver.
Yeah.
He famously says that women shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car because they're inferior drivers.
The most harrowing rides I've had were old men.
Yeah.
My dad used to say old men with hats.
The...
I don't really get car sick, but I've had some Uber rides where I'm like, oh, this is what it feels like because it's just...
You know, this woman, I was thinking about it the other day.
You was thinking about a woman the other day.
When I used to carpool, we used to carpool the Sunday school.
And God bless her, her name was Michelle.
She was my friend Sasha's mom.
Michelle.
And Michelle drove a Ford Expedition.
Hell yes.
And I had a mom's car.
I had to sit.
I don't know if any of you ever been in a Ford Expedition, but it's got the front seat and
then the back seat.
And then the way back is like up.
It's like elevated.
And I would have to sit way back there.
and this lady didn't know how to drive.
To be fair, you feel everything in that but also, no, no, no, so this is how she would drive.
Her foot would be on the, she, you know, normally you accelerate and you just hold your foot at a,
you find the sweet spot and you're just holding it.
That's where you're driving.
She was a constant foot on the gas, foot off, foot on the gas, foot off, foot on the gas, foot off.
And it wasn't, it wasn't too much, but you're definitely feeling it just, and then she, and
would offer you guys want some gum it's sugar-free because she was a dental hygienist
and for something for some reason the combination of that sugar-free gum and just being in that
car I just felt like throwing up now imagine Michelle behind the wheel of a joby oh man you guys
okay back there I got 20 hours booked on my job for my jobie license I got sugar-free gum
yeah but and then the other guy was this uh um his dad I forgot what his name I think
the kid's name was David and his dad was like David
Sr. I don't even remember what this guy
looked like. I just remember a figure with
like he looked like Dale Earnhardt.
He just had glasses and a mustache
and he drove a shitty Ford Explorer
with really shitty like
the poor man's expedition. Reddish orange tint
and it was always just like
uncomfortable in there. It stunk
and his radio
he had the base to up high
so it would just be
and the whole fucking drive,
I'd just be feeling sick
because it's just
nice.
I'd be a good carpool dad.
Imagine that guy behind the wheel of Joby.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm...
Yeah, we'd crash.
I'd rather crash that Joby than ride in the back.
I'm curious if, you know,
we will unfortunately not be able to find out until next week,
But the day this comes out, Elon is supposed to be announcing his own robotaxies.
We'll see if they're finally coming.
But if you want to see that little freak jumping around on stage,
his little belly hanging out, he's going to be announcing that he's actually going to be crushing Jobie.
Yeah.
Anyway.
We'll see if Toyota feels like they got a little egg on their face after.
That about wraps it up for this week's episode, folks.
So thank you so much for two to a good.
Do you think that wraps it up?
I think it does, yeah.
What about you? Do you think it doesn't?
I would say you should come into the bonus.
Oh, yeah, man.
Come into the bonus, that's for sure.
Yeah.
We're going to get nasty in there.
We're going to get nasty in there.
Topless show, maybe, actually.
I don't know.
I'm just throwing it out there right now.
Ben got real nasty last weekend.
How did I get real nasty?
You're so, the cold brew is cranked through your system.
Huh?
What?
You're not making any sense.
He needed an attitude adjustment.
I don't think we're going to find it this week, but that's okay.
Maybe it's not me, but everybody else who's the problem.
Okay, join us in the bonus, folks.
Thank you so much for joining us this week, and we'll see you next week.
We're going to be talking about pedophiles on Roblox, probably.
Yeah, no, that's just a little teaser.
That's just the little teaser.
No, but that's what's going to happen because that's a big thing going on.
It's a big story.
It's a big story.
Yeah, they're on there.
They're on there.
They're on there.
I'm not, but they are.
Okay. We'll see you next week, King. Bye.
