The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 70: We were wrong about Elon + Tesla.

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know, say what you want about Elon Musk, but the man is just a master presenter and a very eloquent orator. Well, so he's promising quite a bit here. That was sarcasm. I know. He's a, he's the, you know. He bumbles through it. The South African jumping bean as they. Did you make that out?
Starting point is 00:00:23 Yeah. The South African jumping bean. But. Oh, that's my man. I'm looking down town with Benin' Me. Tell me what's going on. Tell me what's going on. So listen to you're not too bad in me. Tell me what's going on. Tell me what's going on. Tell me what's gone on. Welcome back, everyone. We've got an episode that is absolutely chock full of stuff. It's going to be a really good one. We had to pivot a little bit.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Chet Hanks canceled on us again, but that's fine. We're just going to keep rolling right along. We're going to keep rolling right along. We had plans for him to come in here and do his patois voice, and I was going to do my best to match his energy. But we'll see. Maybe next week. Yeah, maybe next week.
Starting point is 00:01:15 We got a really good episode for you today. We're going to be talking all about the Tesla. You know we had to cover it. We robot event. It was full of a, it was really jam-packed. I actually watched it live. I robot. He robot. We robot. They robot. Us. We're conjugating the verb here, just like high school Spanish class. And then we've got a little bit about the loneliness epidemic, particularly for young men. Young man. It's a little linked to Elon. It's a little linked to Elon, and you'll see just how. You want to stay tuned for that. It's incredibly funny. And then we're going to be talking about Donald Trump's, not only his stock.
Starting point is 00:01:58 but his new crypto venture, among other things. Everyone's making a ploy for the crypto people. Kamala's making all kinds of crypto. Oh, yeah. She promised some black guys that, though, she said, hey, black men. I'm going to protect your crypto if you vote for me and are also going to make marijuana legal. That's pretty good. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Just off the cuff. I can only do it. I can only do impressions. Don't ask you to do anything. Don't ask me to do it on the spot. You just got to let me do it. But before we get into that, we have a very exciting thing to announce. People had wanted it.
Starting point is 00:02:34 You guys wanted it. We heard your requests, and we went ahead and called up the factory in China. And we said, hey, get those $1.75 an hour workers clocked in working around the clock to churn out new shirts. Oh, maybe toss one to us right there. And we also... We were... We came prepared. We also have mugs.
Starting point is 00:02:59 If you want to just throw that. There's a mug down there, too. Maybe don't throw the mug. But these things are quite sick. Yeah, we had to hit you with the... For the audio listener, it's a naked lady. It's a big... It's a naked lady.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Yours won't come as wrinkled. I promise you that. No, no, they will come wrinkled. That's how it works. Yes, that's... It's like Bucle. It's like the couch. The Ben and Emile promise.
Starting point is 00:03:20 The Ben and Emile Show. Each one will be wrinkled. Your mug will definitely be broken. They spelled show wrong. You see this? this? Gotcha, bitch. Ben, here's the bug.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Wow, they spelled show wrong on this, too. I'm just kidding. I got you again. Got you a second time. Oh, it's piss again. Oh, man. Oh, boy. Oh, baboo.
Starting point is 00:03:43 So, yeah, we got that on there. Ben and Emielshow.com. I believe if you are signed up, you get like a discount or something like that. That's right. And we're still working on getting a Q&A up and running. We've just had a lot of stuff going on. We got an exciting new endeavor that we will be announcing. shortly as well.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It's going to be a weekly live show and it's not going to be on our channel. I don't announce that yet. Well, I can. I can just hint at it. We got to start building the hype train. We got all kinds of things.
Starting point is 00:04:10 We got all kinds of stuff. Don't worry about it. We got a new chili that we're working on that's going to come in a bag. A Ben and Emile chili. Can you imagine? The B&E bean and egg chili.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Jesus Christ. All right, let's get let's get right into it, shall we, folks? So what, the, one of the biggest, a couple of huge things happened for our old buddy. Wait, I got to say one thing.
Starting point is 00:04:33 It's very funny. What? Wasn't it just last week I was talking about how now all tech and founder things is just the CEO coming out and being like, we've got a big thing for you. Oh, yeah. We're announcing it. And then they're like, um, maybe like 2026 or 2027, you can have it, but probably not. Who?
Starting point is 00:04:54 What other CEOs are doing that? Just last week, I was saying. this is how every product gets rolled out now because I was talking about the meta thing. Oh yeah, Taco Bell. Taco Bell's doing it. No, Taco Bell's doing that. They're jacking the whole Steve Jobs thing.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Stove Jobs. Steve Jobs. All right. R.I.B. Steve Jones. But, well, because everybody's, yeah, they're jacking his thunder. He was the original. Nobody can do it like Steve Jobs.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Oh, I mean, he's been doing it forever. No, no, not Steve Jobs. Elon has been doing this forever where he promises stuff that he can't deliver. on. And we'll get there. But now all of tech has adopted this model. He can't give a single example. I just did the meta glasses. Typical. Oh, the meta glasses. The Apple introducing iPhone and being like, it'll have those features soon. Yeah, it'll have these features soon. Maybe. The undisputed champion of promising, over promising and under delivering is our man.
Starting point is 00:05:51 The autistic king, Elon Musk. Because he finally said, I'm ready to announce the Robo Taxi, which he's been announcing since 2019. Yeah, the, the cybercab, the robotoxy, whatever you want to call it. I will say before getting into that, coinciding with this big event was, he big rocket, he big rocket did land on the thing, on the pincers. The very smart engineers at SpaceX. Exactly. That's the thing is if I'm one of these engineers working at SpaceX, I'm ticked off, man. I'm just like, God, it'd be nice to get some kind of recognition. from the public that that I mean he did I was reading a thing about so here's what I like to do I like to be as fair as possible and as objective as possible no he doesn't Elon Musk did and this is not me supporting I you know I think he's a jackoff but I was reading about how the origins of SpaceX came about which was they were they were preparing to buy rockets fully already made from
Starting point is 00:06:52 I think Russia. And the premium that you have to pay for a fully made rocket is 10 times what it would cost to make it yourself. So Elon Musk employed first principles, aka just going back to the figuring out the starting blocks of how you might go about building a rocket. And he just like, I don't know, did some research himself and figured out, oh, this would be way cheaper to build it ourselves. And we could do it because it turns out it's not that difficult in the grand scheme that's how space x came to be that's pretty much it's it's not rocket science i thought it was when he uh he kept asking this woman out and she kept saying no uh when there's life on mars and he went oh okay that's pretty good that's how space yeah and it does bother me that we're we're spending
Starting point is 00:07:38 so much time and energy and money uh toward making human beings an interplanetary species like in case earth gets blown out in case earth it's back blown out i was just going to say in case in case an asteroid comes and blows out Earth's back. I think that whatever colony is left on Mars is going to be flat out fucked anyway. So it's not really going to matter if we've got to, if we're
Starting point is 00:08:03 interplanetary at that point. People are with a telescope on Mars looking at Earth and a sundress trying to take back shots from an asteroid. Jesus. All right. So anyway, last week was the long-awaited Tesla Robotaxy
Starting point is 00:08:19 unveiling. And depending on who you ask, it was either absolutely revolutionary or a complete letdown. And when he says depending on who you ask, he means either Tesla shareholders. Oron Tesla Bros. Or the market. And again, those Tesla Bros that were at this thing and they were cheering on everything he was saying, they're probably all multimillionaires because of what Elon has. If I've said it before, I'll say it again. If I were one of those guys, I would definitely be airing on the side of cheering him on.
Starting point is 00:08:52 If I had all my money wrapped up in Tesla? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding? I'll be one of those guys being like, I'll suck you off, sir. Yeah, if that's what you need to get us on Mars. It was on the Warner Brothers lot, the studio lot, here in beautiful Los Angeles in the city called Burbank. And my impression of it was that it felt less like a company announcing something new and more like a high school science project presentation about
Starting point is 00:09:20 like what the future could be. I remember writing... It was very world's fair. Yeah, yes, very good point. It was called Wii Robot. As in when you look back at footage of those things, you're like, wow, they were way off. Yeah, in the future, they're going to have jet packs and a space elevator and all sorts of stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:37 It felt a lot like that. And, yeah, they had these little maps that they handed out and they had their mission, so on on these little maps, they had their mission statement, which was stated. to be to accelerate the world's transition to sustainable energy, which I get, I think is totally noble. It's good. I agree with that. We should be accelerating our sustainable energy. We need that. We need that shit. And a big part of how we are going to get there, Elon says, is autonomy, making everything automatic. And so he came out in the robotaxy, aka, the cyber cab
Starting point is 00:10:20 and let's watch a little bit up here. There were three things three main things that came out of this the cyber cab slash robo taxi the cyber van
Starting point is 00:10:29 and the Optimus robot but this is the this is the thing he's been promising let's see it the cheering adoring fans that's good
Starting point is 00:10:38 he comes out with his little buddy I like this I think that this is funny the music is clearly what Elon thinks is cool music? Elon's whole life is kind of just starting to look like a make a wish thing for me
Starting point is 00:10:58 where it's like he just seems like a little boy. It's like when they shut down San Francisco for Bat Kid. This is what this whole... Oh yeah. Wow. And they made his little prototype and they're like, you did it, Elon. You did it. The car just looks like, again, depending on who you ask,
Starting point is 00:11:17 It looks like total vaporware shit Or it looks like the future It's super cool It's a clearly a What do you call that? Not cyberp- Is it cyberpunk? Steampunk It's like a cyberpunk
Starting point is 00:11:30 Sci-fi fantasy world Look Because that's Elon's whole thing, right? It looks like they turned a cyber truck Into a coop And I mean that derogatory Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:11:40 Perentheses derogatory Yeah Oh geez It's fucking unbelievable how cool would it be if it just mowed down the bicycles yeah yeah the headlights look kind of cool
Starting point is 00:11:54 he just had to go ha ha still working out some kinks and then you know all right let's cut out of this and then he comes up and gets out and does his whole starts this whole presentation and
Starting point is 00:12:05 you know say what you want about Elon Musk but the man is just a master presenter and a very eloquent orator well so he's promising quite a bit here. That was sarcasm. I know. He's a, he's the, you know, he bumbles through it. The South African jumping bean as they, did you make that up? Yeah. South African jumping bean. But, oh, that's my man right there. But look, he's, he's promising quite a bit here. Okay. It's the fully
Starting point is 00:12:40 autonomous vehicle. There's no, there's no steering wheel. There's no pedals. Yeah. It's, So if it goes rogue, you are fucked. Yeah, there's no one taking over on this thing. Yeah. He thinks they're going to be available for less than $30,000. Yep. He thinks about 20 cents per mile. All right.
Starting point is 00:12:58 So the whole thing, his whole thing is individualized mass transport. That's what he said to think of it as. Think of it as individualized mass transit. And again, he's hoping for before 2027, he said. Hey, guys, we want to take a quick break to talk about a little bit of Shopify, because you know, we went on this endeavor starting this show on our own. We had no clue what we were doing. No idea.
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Starting point is 00:15:51 available in 2026 and before 2027 so aka enough time uh will pass and he'll get another I don't think he'll get another pass after this but he said that they're going to start doing unsupervised full self-driving testing in California and Texas next year. And one big thing is that full self-driving relies fully 100% on cameras alone. No LIDAR, no radar like Waymo, which is way, way, way ahead of the game. Pretty much Tesla is the only auto manufacturer who's doing cameras only, which is worrisome because it's useless when there's bad weather, if there's like really heavy rain or fog, what have you. I really don't understand. Maybe there's something that I don't know that they do. But I think the reason that they're going for cameras is
Starting point is 00:16:45 because it's way, way, way cheaper. That makes sense. I mean, I'm definitely not an autonomous driving expert, but I have seen people mocking their choice to go the camera route rather than something like Waymo, which, dude, I had no idea Waymo was doing so much traffic. They're doing 100,000 paid rides per week in San Francisco. That is wild. Isn't that crazy? That is. And I'm on the waiting list still here in Los Angeles. Yeah, you have to get the invite and then you're going to get. Oh, okay. So maybe I need to ping. Did you not get invited to get?
Starting point is 00:17:15 I'm not cool. You didn't get away my invite? No. Did you? You didn't get away my invite? I just asked, did you? Because I did not. But you didn't get one? Tesla is saying that autonomy. So this whole thing is, was just,
Starting point is 00:17:32 a presentation about, I guess you could just say it was a presentation about what the future should look like according to Elon and according to Tesla. And again, it was very noble. One last thing I want to point out, because I don't think we said it yet, which makes me think that this whole thing is kind of slapped together in a pretty shoddy way. But correct me if I'm wrong, it's a two-seater. It can only hold two adults. The Robotaxy currently, I believe you're right. Imagine why you would design a robot taxi with two seats. Yeah. Well, because most people only know one guy.
Starting point is 00:18:07 It just, I'm trying to think of a reason why you wouldn't at least make it. I don't know. Even a, you can fit four people in most Uber rides because you can use the front seat and the three back seats. And we will get to there. He did present an alternative to this very real problem for people who know more than one guy. Yeah, I know. But I'm just, yeah, I'm just so confused. But he was emphasizing, and Tesla was on their whole presentation online, was saying that autonomy will create the world that we want, covering all transportation needs with fewer cars, since they won't be sitting idle for most of the day anymore. And we can finally get rid of all these pesky parking lots, which they imagine would look like in this video.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Because that's one of Elon's main things was that for like the majority of the time, your car is just sitting there idle. And it's, it's, it's not providing any extra value. It just takes up space. Yeah, he says these things are going to, well, if you're just at home, you're done for the day. You don't need your car. It's just going to go out and pick up rides for you. I don't want to, I don't want that. I don't want some stranger farting in my car seat.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Yeah, I mean, that's, well, I don't want to, let's watch this. Yeah, let's watch this visualization of what they're imagined. What is that, like, is really interesting is how will this affect the cities that we live in? and when you drive on the city or when the car drives you around the city you'll see there's like there's a lot of parking lots there's parking lots everywhere parking garages uh there are and and so what would happen if you have it looks nice dodger stadium all green now turn parking lots into parks back at ball court lax and uh so from you do we're taking we're taking the ing lot out of parking lot oh we'll be taking the inn lot sort of bunch of just like gunshots people just were like, Hey guys, we're taking another break and we're talking about Lumen. Some of you guys might need a little introduction
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Starting point is 00:22:29 It's just public transportation. You can just have a fucking subway, go to the stadium, take you to work. The other thing about these cars, these robotaxies, is it he says that they're not going to have charging ports like they currently do. They're all going to be charged via induction. So like those charging pads that you see now. so just attacking on more promises that I just don't so my prediction is I don't think that this is going to happen he's been promising full self-driving since 2016 saying it should be coming next year it should be coming next year and what I'm glad to see is that more and more diehard Tesla
Starting point is 00:23:10 investors are starting to wise up and say and call him out on his bullshit and say like this they're all starting to catch on. The music is starting to stop or at least slow down. To that and, you know, investors thought it was, they just don't see what he's talking about, right? There's this Edwin Olson, CEO of May Mobility. This doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. If you've got autonomous vehicles and they are cash printing machines
Starting point is 00:23:39 because you can just turn them loose and they make money, then finding equity or investors to finance these vehicles shouldn't be hard. Why do you need individual shepherds going and buying 10? vehicles at a time. We also think, at least for now, fleet-operated vehicles are the best way to deliver this technology into the world. Personal car owners don't want to wake up and realize that someone threw up in the backseat of their car. Also, that's, that Shepherds thing is a reference to something Elon said. Yeah. He calls individual owners Shepherds. Yeah, he said you can, because they would mass their own flocks of robotaxis. Yeah, you could, you could, uh, I could see a world where
Starting point is 00:24:12 people have up to four, five, six, maybe even a dozen of these, and they tend to them like a shepherd managing an entire fleet, which should be pretty cool. Is that pretty good? That's pretty good. No one's buying this bullshit. Paul Miller, VP, principal analyst at Forrester, without external subsidies or Tesla taking a loss on every vehicle, it doesn't seem plausible to launch at anything close to that price this decade. There you go, man. I mean, that's one of them. So then the big reveal, one of the big,
Starting point is 00:24:52 perhaps bigger than the Robotaxi itself, was this robo van that he affectionately calls the Robovan because he's so corky and he's corked up and caked up. I mean, the boy is thicker than a milkshake. It looks like he's got a little fake tan going too. Yeah. it's green space south african jumping so out comes this fucking everybody's calling it a toaster because it really does look like a to it looks like something you would also but you know what
Starting point is 00:25:29 reminds me it looks like the star tours van you remember star tours at disneyland yeah it looks like a fucking futuristic subway car yeah or train car you dumb fuck the wait listen The Ropovin is This is a We're going to make this And it's going to look like that Now can you imagine Going down the streets
Starting point is 00:25:51 And you see this coming to Ward 2? Wait That'd be sick That'd be sick! Can you imagine That statement right there All right, cut this shit That statement right there
Starting point is 00:26:06 Summarizes His entire thing He's now reached such levels of wealth that he's now taking on his sci-fi fantasy and it all comes down to him thinking wouldn't it be sick
Starting point is 00:26:19 if this is what it's his view of... Dude imagine you saw this coming down the street that would be sick it's so people were pointing out that the clearance like yeah good luck going over a speed bump when it rolled out I was like
Starting point is 00:26:31 what the fuck where's this gonna go yeah it's not even like if there's a slight hill it's not going yeah I mean I'm sure that they would they would remedy that by making the clearance higher but I don't like You never know with Elon. I don't like that the seats, there's some seats that half of the seats face the other way. Like, that would make me puke.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And, yeah, he's... I just am so confused. I mean, there's... It's basically a small bus. It looks... Yeah, that's what... Here's what it looks like inside. I mean, sure, it looks nice.
Starting point is 00:27:09 It looks cool, I guess. I, I, it doesn't, like that with the lights on, it looks like any shitty party bus I've ever been on. Yeah, I don't want to ride around on a party bus with strangers is the thing. But, uh, yeah, yeah, it's, it's his future and he's just dragging it, um, toward us all. But the, the relief that I feel is, it ain't happening. This is sick. Yeah, I'd, no, I'd be getting my eggs ready to chuck at it. I hope he does understand, like, when we see his thing, when we see a cyber truck come, we all go.
Starting point is 00:27:41 you fucking asshole. Yeah. Like about whoever is in that car. Have you seen the movie Demolition Man with Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes? It looks like set design from Demolition Man. Yeah. And in this movie in the future, it's like 2030 L.A. Everybody is just so neutered and impotent and weak and all of their, it's just a bunch of weakling stupid shit art deco.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Is that what that is? Art Deco. It's very Art Deco. inspired and it just looks like shit to me. I mean, some of it can look cool. And I, again, I'm like trying to be optimistic by going, okay, yeah, usher. Let's, we should usher in a future where there's abundance and all that shit, which leads us to optimists. I mean, I'm fine with all that. It's just the pretending that some of these solutions don't already exist. And it would just be expanding public transportation, him coming up with like this weird alternative solution where it's just a
Starting point is 00:28:39 privatized individualized mass transport and I don't understand why would we how could we
Starting point is 00:28:48 somehow lose all the parking lots because don't those cars still have to end up where do
Starting point is 00:28:52 these fucking cars go you're just going to I don't know I don't know millions of fucking cyber
Starting point is 00:28:55 taxis where are they supposed to do with all the existing cars I'm not getting rid of
Starting point is 00:28:59 what am what am I supposed to do with my fucking flock of cyber taxes you want me
Starting point is 00:29:03 have where am putting those that's a good point man we're like Where, yeah, I don't understand this at all.
Starting point is 00:29:12 We all just have fucking room at our houses for my fleet. Well, maybe Optimus can help us solve this problem. Yeah, hopefully. Because Optimus is the robot. This was the real big part of it. Let's check out the reveal for this. Which you guys might remember him. He had someone come out in a, a human come out in a robot suit.
Starting point is 00:29:32 When was this like? Yeah, and it was meant to be cheeky and silly. But now he's, uh, here's the optimist. R2D2C3PO. Yeah, again, a reference to sci-fi. Don't you want your own R2G2C3PO? Yeah, this would cost something like, I don't know, $20,000, $30,000. Probably less than a car, is my prediction, long term.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Now, you know, take us a minute to get to the long term, but... See, his choice of language, I gotta hand it to him here. He is being very cautious. He's saying, long term, my prediction, is that these will be affordable. that these will be affordable. $30,000 long term. So, and what can it do? It'll be able to do anything you want.
Starting point is 00:30:14 So it can be a teacher, babysit your kids. They can put a little apple into a box. Yeah. Just be your friend, serve drinks. Whatever you can think of. Yeah. The be your friend is just brutal. And yeah, it's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I think this will be. It's going to be awesome. Ever of any kind. it's going to be the biggest product ever of any kind he says and these I mean if I were there I'd probably be cheering like crazy too like damn fuck yeah I'd be drinking the Kool-Aid if I were in that crowd and yeah he's saying that
Starting point is 00:30:55 not me lips around the barrel of a gun the entire time he says his prediction long term it'll take us a minute to get there it'll do anything you ask it to and I wanted to shoot me with a gun. That's what I wanted to do. If I ended up getting one,
Starting point is 00:31:15 well, I imagine they're going to have to imbue some kind of, you cannot harm humans into it. Oh, sure, yeah. It's going to be like Isaac Asmob's three laws of robotics, you know? Will it be woke, I wonder? How will it answer? Not if Elon has anything to do that. If you ask it, what is a woman?
Starting point is 00:31:30 What will its answer be? I'm sure he's going to hard program that in there. They'll get Matt Walsh to program. something cool into it. Yeah. He says it'll be the biggest product ever of any kind and will bring an age of abundance for everyone by making goods and services
Starting point is 00:31:46 much less expensive and it'll bring two orders of magnitude of potential improvement of economic output and will allow for a future where there is no poverty. I mean, Babu, it doesn't get any more pie in the sky than that. I'm just picturing Tim Poole,
Starting point is 00:32:02 crying, carrying his robot to the bathtub, threatening to toss it in. Toss it in if it doesn't answer what a woman is. Please, Optimus, I'm giving you one more chance. I feel betrayed by, no, that's kind of Ben Shapiro. What is a woman? Hey, everybody. We got to take a quick break to thank our favorite sponsor of the show.
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Starting point is 00:35:31 Yeah, so the big... When all the footage started coming out, people were acting like these were fully autonomous robots. Because he had them all over the event. They're bartending for people. They were dancing. Yeah, they're doing little dances. They're interacting with people.
Starting point is 00:35:46 And they were the real robots. To be sure, they were not people in suits. Yeah, they could be. I mean, if you see it, they've got these like insanely cinched wastes. I could only dream of, yeah, giving us all the... The body dysmorphia, we never thought we'd get from a robot. But it turns out they were not.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Yeah, they were fly-by-wire operated remotely, I mean, pretty clearly. But after all these presentations, the guests at this big event were able to hop in cybercabs and take them around. One guy said it best, it was like one big Disneyland ride. That's what it was. It wasn't true autonomy. It was clearly pre-planned routes. with these, in these cars. They went like five miles per hour.
Starting point is 00:36:36 They just shuttled you around, a pre-planned route. And then, to give them credit, the event went off without a hitch. I mean, there's so many moving parts with the robots, the cyber taxi, the robovan. They did not have any problems. The robot just grabbed someone's throat. Yeah, it didn't grab anybody's throat. And yeah, you could interact with the robots. And a lot of people were just fully fooled like this guy.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Let's pull up that first one. That's what I don't understand. Yeah, I don't get how people got tricked. Miss. It's insane. It's even talking. John, where's John? Right here.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Oh, hello, John. How are you? That's crazy. I'm talking to a robot. From San Jose. Probably from where you were born in Silicon Valley. Where do you live in San Jose? Do you live in Almond Valley or do you live in San Francisco area?
Starting point is 00:37:30 No, I live. live in Las Gatos? Los Gatos. Oh, wonderful. Yeah. Nice area. Where do you live? Beautiful hiking out here out there.
Starting point is 00:37:38 There is. Where do you live? I live in Palo Alto at the current moment. Figures. Yeah, this is awesome. That's where they're trained us. That's where we get our bills and that's where we work with a wonderful group of people. What's the hardest thing about being a robot?
Starting point is 00:37:55 Oh. Trying to learn how to be as human as you guys. Human is you guys are. And that's something I try harder to do every day. And I hope that you will help us become that. Awesome. Nice to meet you, Optimus. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's clearly a guy.
Starting point is 00:38:13 He understands he's talking to a person, right? I don't think so. I think he fully believes it. He's like, wow, I'm talking to a robot. Brother, we talk to robots all the time. When you call a call center, you're talking to a robot. When, uh, I just, I mean, I just found it funny because, like, that guy talking to that robot like that, I just couldn't
Starting point is 00:38:34 help a picture. This is how he talks to women. Oh, that guy. Yeah. Where are you from? No, where were you? Is that where you were born? Is that where you were born?
Starting point is 00:38:47 You were probably born there. Yeah, that's what he said. He's like, where are you from? Oh, I'm from San Jose. Oh, he's probably where you were born. Yeah. And Marquez Brownlee played charades. with one. Which this one also confused me. Before we watch
Starting point is 00:39:02 the video, I just want to read his tweet. He said, playing charades with the Tesla Optimus Robot last night. This is either the single greatest robotics and LLM demo the world has ever seen, or it's mostly remote operated by a human. No in between. And it's like, yeah, Marquez. Yeah, you're smart enough to know. It's the other one. It's not the greatest robotics
Starting point is 00:39:24 in LLM demo you've ever seen. Great video. Great video. Okay. What games do I play? What games do I play? I play charades. You want to play charades? That sounds great. You do.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Yeah, let's do it. I got one for you. Ready? Yeah, let's do it. That's good. One word. Ready? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Let's do it. All right, here we go. We won. Whatever. Pretty sure we all. But I had a suit with that, it looks like you're fishing right now. Like what our field is doing on.
Starting point is 00:39:57 That's right. You got it. Nice work. We'll never know, Marcus, which one was it? I think... The greatest robotics display? Or... Or just fucking vaporware.
Starting point is 00:40:12 It's vaporware. And I think that the market has spoken because the next day the stock was down like 7%. I personally scored because I bet against and I bought some put options. And I've also got some put options for earnings because I think that the music is slowing. Elon has to keep doing shit like this. to keep the story going, to keep the stock propped up.
Starting point is 00:40:33 It is, he's been doing it for over a decade. He's very masterful at it. I mean, but I think as time goes on and more and more people wise up to the fact that a lot of his whole thing is empty promises, they also no longer have the moat that they've had before. Other electric vehicle companies have caught up, China has caught up, they no longer standalone. They're I was saying this to you before,
Starting point is 00:41:01 but I haven't seen anyone really pointed out on the robotics front. I'm just so surprised. These robots seem so unimpressive compared to some of the stuff that Boston Dynamics has put out. Like, every few months they put out a video where you're like, holy shit, that thing is
Starting point is 00:41:17 incredibly advanced. Yeah, they're doing backflips. I mean, I've seen one where it fully, we might have played it on a show at one point. It just fully is making its way around construction site. Yes. Picking up a toolbox
Starting point is 00:41:31 and like back flipping its way up to a scaffolding. Yeah. I'm just... Oh, I mean, this is incredible. I don't understand. I forgot my tools again. Wow, it looks like you forgot your tools.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Need some help with that. I mean, look at this fucking guy. Yeah. I'd rather work with that little guy. Its movements are so much more fluid. It is scary. But if one of the first of... I'm going to kill me. At least make it, uh, it looks like it's having fun, too.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Do, do, do, do. Just got a, beep, beep. Daddy, daddy needs his tool bag. I'm coming, Daddy. I'm coming, daddy. I just have to one of these stales, daddy. Good camera work, too. Praise the cameraman. Dude, this is insane. Wow. You didn't have to throw it, though. But it's so sick. Okay. needed that block, but thank you. And also, fucking Honda with the Asimaux. Okay, that's unnecessary. That's unsafe.
Starting point is 00:42:38 See, this guy, this robot is a little cocky. I will say that. And you don't like that. I don't, if you're, don't show off to me. That was also so long ago. Yeah. You know, Elon's been working on this bullshit. And all he can do is have, you know, he can pay some guy $25 an hour to go like,
Starting point is 00:42:57 I'm from near, uh, Palo Alto. The way, the places where Elon is really, um, head and shoulders above the competition is SpaceX and Starlink. Maybe just focus all your energy on that shit. I think he should step down from Tesla, let somebody else run it. And, uh, I actually think that the stock would reward him for that. I think that people would buy it up and, um, I don't actually, I don't know. I'm not convinced on any of it.
Starting point is 00:43:26 I'm not hailing a cyber taxi. I'm getting in a Jobie, baby. Oh, the helicopter? Me and the robot from Boston Dynamics are getting in a Jobie. No need to call a Robovan. We've got a Joby. A Roebovan.
Starting point is 00:43:41 God, that's so fucking annoying. But Marquez Brownlee had a really good point. I watched his reaction video, and he said, he echoes my sentiments when he said it's all an honorable thing that they're striving toward, a clean, safe future. But for now,
Starting point is 00:43:56 It's all just concepts. They're just, it's, it's, it's, yeah, he basically, it's nothing more than concepts. He invited a bunch of people to, um, to the Warner Brothers lot to, to, to rip off the artwork from the movie I-Robot and periodically to say, um, wouldn't this be cool? Wouldn't that be sick if you saw that? And everyone got, um, yeah, I guess so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:18 And so the, the whole glow of it all is Tesla bringing us closer toward utopia, but it's, overshadowed, as Marquez Brownlee points out, it's overshadowed by the fact that this is a company making these promises with a price tag attached. Like, oh yeah, we're going to provide utopia and all this stuff and it'll cost you $30,000. Yeah, he says it. Like, it's like, come on, you guys all, you guys all have $30,000, don't you? It's continued. It would be one thing. Everyone's going to have one of these in their homes. Yeah. And, man, and we got the election coming up. I really am curious. He's like, it's like, it's the price of a car. Like, That's not people's one of the, yeah, their biggest expense, you know, my lease is up in six
Starting point is 00:45:04 months now and it's like just fucking weighing on me. Imagine my robot went out and I'm like, oh, fuck. Yeah. I got to come up with 30 grand. To get a robot just to compete. Otherwise, who's going to put this apple in the box? Yeah. Who's going to open my Diet Coke for me? Well, as he said, the robots can walk your dog. They can do what? whatever you want. But can they help you get a date? It's also very funny, just before we go, it's very funny, all of his examples
Starting point is 00:45:34 sorry, all of his examples are this like very home-based, when I watch all the things, I'm like, I can bring the fucking groceries in, you know what I mean? Yeah. I can make myself a drink. I can, he's got one watering the plants. I'm like, that's the last thing I need for.
Starting point is 00:45:52 But the Boston Dynamics thing is like, hey look, You got this fucking helper on a dangerous construction site. Don't want to go down the ladder on dangerous scaffolding. Well, this guy's going to fucking backflip up to you with your toolbox. But I worry that the Boston Dynamics robot is going to do things like, I need to get from point A to point B. Here's a ladder and he kicks it and uses it as a little stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:15 That presents its own problem. The context difference is very apparent. Yeah, it's very stark. And yeah, and he includes things like be your friend. you know it's it's just uh well so let's there's one guy who's saying that Elon should buy hinge and Tinder because this guy's my favorite he's like the perfect encapsulation of these Elon bros who you know we were talking about them a little bit last week of you know they think he can do anything uh whenever there's something happening they don't like they're like
Starting point is 00:46:51 Elon will have your whole port automated in a weekend brother so you've been Shut up, Fatsmo. But this guy, Daniel Schmidt, on Twitter. He's famous recently for saying that black people are responsible for crime at the University of Chicago or something? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Obviously a big Elon head. And I saw, he's got such a long, of course he's verified on Twitter. It's one of those fucking very long post, but I just saw the first part and I was like, I need to know where this goes. And so it just starts with if Elon Musk wants to raise birth rates,
Starting point is 00:47:25 he should purchase Match Group, the company that controls Tinder and Hinge, over half of the online dating market. No company comes. So whatever. He's advocating for them to take it over. And he couches it in the birth rates thing. But he veers away from it so quickly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:43 And really tells on himself, I first encountered Match Group three years ago when I began college. I was horny. But I didn't want to... Wait, wait, wait. Can I read that part? I first encountered Match Group three years ago when I began college. I was horny, but I didn't want to hook up with random girls.
Starting point is 00:48:00 So I downloaded Hinge. I went on a few dates. It was one girl that I really started to like. Then I woke up one morning and was suddenly banned. Did you know you can get banned on Hinge if just one woman reports you for whatever reason she wants? Maybe she didn't like your bio. Maybe your ex found you. And if you do get banned, did you know the app sends an email to every woman you matched with?
Starting point is 00:48:23 Good luck! You think you can outsmart the system and create a new account? That'll require a new phone and a new phone number. You'll also need to use a different name and birthday on your account and create the account from a different Wi-Fi and GPS location. You need entirely new photos as well. And that'll probably still not work because the apps likely use facial recognition and will detect you.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Whatever technology you think these apps have, they're far beyond it. I've learned all this because of a subreddit. This is the darkest part. I've learned all of this because of a subreddit called R slash swipe help. The entire purpose of this community is to help men get unbanned from Hinge and Tinder. Delete that subred. There are 34,000 members. They're building an army.
Starting point is 00:49:06 11 days ago, here's where the true dystopia begins. 11 days ago, someone claiming to have worked in quality assurance for various dating apps wrote a post on R slash swipe helper. Their posts went into great detail about their work and aligns precisely with what many people have observed. for years. So I'm inclined to believe it. I'll link to it in a comment below. It's just, if you get too many, the person, the insider just goes on to say that, uh, yeah, if you get banned. It's fucking sad. Yeah. He talks about how he gets placed in the, in the, you know, in this, uh, trying to get re-signed up phase. He's like, it's in this state that men feel worthless. Weeks pass. And they receive zero messages, zero likes and zero matches. They become
Starting point is 00:49:50 desperate and start purchasing booze. Whatever. This is fucking... He's talking about how... Match Group has a monopoly on this and they get desperate men to start purchasing... Yeah, match
Starting point is 00:50:04 group has a direct incentive to make it impossible for men to find love. You can... Jeez. Well, so he wants Elon to buy it, right? Yeah. And the first step, he says, make the algorithm public. Show everyone, how these apps have been manipulating them and profiting from it. That, I'm kind of not so...
Starting point is 00:50:20 I think we should know how these things work. They do cause a lot of people, a lot of stress, and people are profiting off our own loneliness, and it's kind of dark and sad. But his next step, a little weird. The rest is simple. Eliminate shadow banning. Offer amnesty to ban users and make the algorithm fair.
Starting point is 00:50:40 That alone would lead to countless new relationships. It's very funny that his whole thing is just getting thousands of men, unband from these apps. I, this is all obviously anecdotal. I've been on dating apps for, I would say probably since 2009. I was like an early adopter. I got an OKCupid.
Starting point is 00:51:03 I've never experienced the ban. I pretty much all of my male friends are on these things. I've never heard of, no one has ever been like, dude, I got banned from Hinge. I've never heard that one time. It is not, I just don't think it's the problem. He thinks it is.
Starting point is 00:51:20 The problem is that he maybe did something. Yeah, he probably, yeah. If this was a problem, I would have heard, I would have had at least one. Yeah. One guy, been like, I got banned. I've been like shadow banned before, but just because the algorithm, because I was getting zero likes and I was like, this is unusual. You know that it takes, you know, I know I'm going to get one.
Starting point is 00:51:47 I know I'm going to get one, you know. I mean, I'm not that bad looking good. I got to be getting at least one person liking me. Also because in the past, when I've downloaded it before, the likes start coming in, just a couple at least. So you know that you're at least in the algorithm. But, yeah, and then I had to email support. And I was like, this is, I'm going to sue you.
Starting point is 00:52:09 And then they, they, they, Ben logged off of R slash swipe helpers and got right down to. No, I mean, this guy just, honestly, it explained so much for, or just connected a lot of dots for the whole Elon mania with I was saying he's got just the most the darkest divorced energy and I think it's just all these guys with
Starting point is 00:52:32 it can't be me, it's everyone else and he wants them to take over the world again this is a guy with countless divorces he's been accused of spying on his girlfriends I think Elon I think Amber Hurd came out and said that, uh, she, her Tesla was bugged by him and, uh, very Howard Hughes.
Starting point is 00:52:56 She was being followed by drones, uh, because she was, she was suspected of, of cheating on him. So, I mean, of course, this is, this is the guy. I'm, I'm sure this, I'm sure the R slash swipe helpers community is very, very pro Elon. I'm sure it is. But so there are alternatives. There's, uh, There's loneliness is, well, apparently the Surgeon General just last year said that isolation among young adults is a public health crisis. That is certainly true. It's not just, it's not just romantic loneliness. And there's good news because apparently there's, there are some budding entrepreneurs out there who are addressing this issue. And there's one.
Starting point is 00:53:39 So there's a couple. I don't like this first one. Time left where you can get dinner reservations with a group of strangers. Let's check this out. You don't think that's cool? Time left. No, because I don't want to go to dinner with a bunch of strangers, man. Hit, hit, let's, yeah, book your, let's, let's check it out.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Oh, here, get back. Go, go back. If you scroll down, it should show, yeah, there we go. So it'll show the steps here. Step one, take our quick personality test. Step two, we match you with five strangers. Step three, we book and organize. Step four, you just show up and die.
Starting point is 00:54:17 dive into a unique experience. That sounds like shit to me. I mean, these are hard for... That sounds like shit to me. These things, they kind of make me sad, but I don't want to be so hard on them. It's like, if anyone is, if anyone's having an easier time because of these... Yeah, that's great. I'm like, great.
Starting point is 00:54:35 I wish... I'm just not that they're in 60 countries in 275 cities. I just wouldn't want to have dinner with five strangers. Yeah, just maybe one. Well, there's something for that, too. show up to dinner it's a bunch of just a bunch of guys from r slash swipe helpers yeah fuck yeah you guys got banned too yeah that's why i started using time left hoping a hoping a lady would show up on one of these yeah yeah but i mean that's at least do i have to try this i guess it's a little
Starting point is 00:55:04 less sad because it's do you have to try this i'm like should i try it just so i can like talk about it and maybe maybe where those uh maybe bug myself i would love if you went on a time left uh Oh, God. Time left dinner. Well, and then there's a... Then there's the breakfast. Yeah, I do podcast. Oh, what's it about?
Starting point is 00:55:22 Shut up. About how much this sucks. Yeah. Yeah. What do I talk? I'm actually here to make fun of all you guys. But then I fall in love with all four of them. And I'm like, you guys, you're in my new friends.
Starting point is 00:55:34 And I have to admit something. I was here originally to make fun of you all. But now I realize the joke is on me. And we, yeah. That could be. fun, I guess, maybe. I've used, I've used Meetup. But, except for guys who like meat?
Starting point is 00:55:53 I, that would, okay, that's Grindr, I think. Uh, yeah, yeah. But I used it only, I've only used it for tennis. I was just going to guess that. And I was going to say that to make fun of you, but it turns out it's real. But I know that people use it for more social stuff. Because that's the thing. With the tennis thing, it's like, literally I would show up, play some guys, we hardly talked and I'd be like, nice to meet you guys. I'm going home. I did it when I first moved to L.A. That was very lonely. I could have used time left, maybe. It was a, but yeah, I just pounded the pavement, old school style, had parties, invited everybody I knew. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:56:30 that's cool. Would go to parties and be like, you play tennis? Um, me too. Don't you like the, don't you like how new tennis balls smell? I like it. I like the sound it makes. I'm actually not one of those guys. I don't like it. I played with someone recently. they opened a can. They're like, you want the first wife? And I was like, dude. Yes. Don't be weird.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Oh, man. Well, so there's also one called, is it called the breakfast? Yes, it's the breakfast. It pairs you with someone to have deep conversations over eggs Benedict. Yeah, you know how you eat breakfast and then have to take a shit? Hey, how about meeting with... Do you think that's a universal experience? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:11 How about joining up... Hey. You can, and their copy on here, no, it's not just me. Their copy on here is, you can take only one chance per 24 hours. The breakfast is all about quality interaction with real people. We believe in showing up, not swiping. That's why every day you get the opportunity to take a chance on someone new. Take it or pass it on.
Starting point is 00:57:34 No pressure. You, you, oh God, we developed an algorithm called brioche. Breakfast integrated ongoing chances estimation. that finds chances tailored to your profile and activity. Dude. Riosh is tough. Breakfast integrated ongoing chances estimation. Dude, that, I mean...
Starting point is 00:57:57 I don't want to meet someone for breakfast. I'm groggy. If a congressional staffer did not come up with that, I will eat my own dick because that is their bread and butter. I mean, every time they come up with a new bill, it's a... Sir, we're calling it the brioche act. I don't want to meet someone for breakfast, let alone a... Well, yeah, I'll meet a friend, but I'm not going to meet a friend.
Starting point is 00:58:13 but I'm not going to meet no stranger. Oh, yeah. Ben, you get one chance per day, dude. Yeah, I guess. I have to, I guess. I do feel bad, again, I feel bad dissing them. I want people to fucking find their friends. I want...
Starting point is 00:58:29 There's Geneva, which pairs you with... No, we don't have to look it up. It's okay. It pairs you with people who have similar interests. So exhausted by it. Just like your meetup. And then there's Kindred, which is... I kind of like this one.
Starting point is 00:58:41 It's more geared towards spontaneation. and social connections. So if you're like, gonna go bowling tonight, need a bunch of fuckers to join me to go bowl or gonna, you know, rob a bank.
Starting point is 00:58:53 It's strange, though, because I feel like a lot of these things do exist in, at least in every major city. Yeah, they're called Fring group chats. No, like,
Starting point is 00:59:02 you could sign up for, yeah, you could sign up for these things. There's all kinds of... This is. No, but, no, no, but you don't, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:59:10 You don't have to go through this. This is just like another... But it makes it easier. I guess. Yeah. Where am I going to find? What am I going to Google chess club, Los Angeles?
Starting point is 00:59:20 That sounds like shit. I guess Facebook is also doing this with Facebook groups, right? Isn't that their whole thing? They had that big campaign, that big push for it. Facebook groups? Yeah. It was a great campaign. I really liked it.
Starting point is 00:59:34 I get it. Yeah. They post some of that stuff. My thing is, if Facebook wants to get in any kind of game on that, they need to clean up... Lots? Just clean up the legacy Facebook. When you log on, it is so weird.
Starting point is 00:59:47 It's such a weird experience. It feels like you left. I don't know. There you have it, folks. It feels like you left. Mine shows me just like two people. My algorithm, my feed on Facebook is like my friend's mom. Maybe it's because that's the only one of my friends on Facebook that's actually posting.
Starting point is 01:00:11 but then there's like some random guy I knew from a stock chat group who flunked out of trading and now he's got a weird chin beard and has a kid and is a state at home dad husband and he's it's just depressing. I'm like, oh, good for you, Peter.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Peter? That's his name. I'm doxing him. Yeah, good luck. You're not going to find him. I bet they can find him. No, no, don't do that. No, no. You're not going to find him though. You're not going to find him.
Starting point is 01:00:41 But let's transition, shall we? Oh, yeah. We're going to get to the... By the way, we still do comment of the week, but we're just doing it at the end now. Well, we were supposed to say that at the beginning. We were supposed to say that at the beginning. We were supposed to tell people, if you're looking for comments of the week, it's at the end. Maybe we can put this little thing right before we get started.
Starting point is 01:00:58 If you're looking for comment of the week, it's at the end. Yeah. Yeah, we could put that in. And I know one guy in particular is going to want to see it. And it could be you. It could be you. It could be you, but you don't know yet. Okay, now we're back to this.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Let's do crypto corners, shall we? Bitcoin is having a time. If you pull up like the one-year chart, you don't have to do this, but looking at the chart for Bitcoin, this sucker is about to break the F out. And I'll be the first to say it. I was dead ass wrong about Bitcoin for all these years. I mean, I still may be right about its utility. Wrong about the price. It looks like it's about to break the hell out. I stand by all my positions. I've always said that it's going to keep going up, but it is absolutely useless. It's the most. That's why when I go crazy. When I'm watching Kamala say shit, like, and we're going to protect your crypto.
Starting point is 01:01:43 I'm like, what are you, why are you pretending this is real? We're going to protect your crypto. They just invented a speculative asset and just, we're going to let these black men smoke weed protect your crypto. That's basically what she said, by the way. She came out with a black men agenda. And it's just, it feels oddly racist because it's just, yeah, we're going to let you smoke weed. That's basically one of like four points. You want to smoke weed and play crypto?
Starting point is 01:02:12 We got you. We got you. But so you know that we're entering a new cycle of Bitcoin and crypto when all the alt coins are running, which they are starting to do. And one of the stocks, one of my alt coins that I'm in, Aerodrome, fucking nailed it, man. I've been in that thing since like 70 cents. It's at $1.40 or something today.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I love my aerodrome. Dude, $1.4. Get out. No, I did. I sold a little bit. Oh, okay. Yeah. Micro Strategy. Michael Saylor, got to hand it to the guy, got to tip my hat. Stocks peaking all-time highs. Played it in the treehouse. We scored on the treehouse. Crypto miners, their stocks are setting up. They look really good. Riot. That's ERS, not ORS. Oh, yeah, yeah. Thank you. Thank you for that. The miners, the miners with an E are looking real good, real sexy, real ripe. Marathon Digital is looking really good. Coinbase started breaking out. Also had some of that. And of course, Donald Trump, he can't miss an opportunity.
Starting point is 01:03:17 He's launching a crypto. And I don't even want to click the thing. But what's been interesting to me is as he's rising in the polls, in particular the Kalshi betting, the betting markets for who's going to win, he's leading. Like, it looks like the betting, the betting people are betting that Donald Trump is going to win. And so these days everything being gamified, the Donald J to the DJT stock is on the rise. It went from like 15, it doubled in the last couple weeks on significant volume, which just speaks to how stupid everything is, you know, that, hey, Donald Trump is winning. Gotta buy the Donald Trump stock because it's tantamount to own.
Starting point is 01:04:04 owning shares in the man himself. It's not. You're just owning shares in truth social, which is a piece of shit. He's still posting. He's posting on Twitter now. I'm just looking at the all-time chart for Bitcoin. It's a fun exercise in realizing all the times you could have gotten in. I mean, it's funny thinking back to like 2017 when it broke out into the thousands and people were like, ah, I fucking missed it. It's just Yeah, please don't remind me because I owned like five Bitcoin back at like 1,000. Yeah. And I was like, oh, sweet.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I flipped it and I made a couple thousand bucks. If I know one thing, though, that sucker's going to fucking crash again. Yeah, that sucker's going to crash. Not before. I think it goes to a, if Donald Trump wins, it's going to go bananas. It's going to go absolutely apes shit. Yeah. And so will the Donald Trump stock, I think, probably.
Starting point is 01:04:56 But then did you see him at the town hall recently? Dude, he is all of it. I mean, was it? Was it the Bloomberg one? I don't know. But there was one where he basically said, I don't want to do a Q&A. Let's just listen to music.
Starting point is 01:05:09 And he said, pick some real beauties for us. And then he just stands there and occasionally does his little jerking off skiing motion. I was watching the Bloomberg one where he's actually getting questions and he's just not answering them.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Yeah, it's not even, it's just the same old bullshit, but it's just he's. But the Bloomberg guy was trying to keep him on pace. He's asking him about like, and you know, what do you think? He's trying to give him
Starting point is 01:05:32 real questions. Like, what do you think about Google antitrust and, you know, breaking up Google and stuff like that? And he's like, I've got beef with the Department of Justice. Okay. They, uh, you know, votes down in Georgia and like goes on for three minutes. And he's just like, the question was about Google. And he says, well, you're a liar and you get a lot of things wrong. You've gotten a lot of things wrong. And frankly, your, uh, Bloomberg has gotten a lot of things wrong. And it's like, okay, sir. And people are laughing in the audience. I can't tell if they're laughing at Donald Trump or I couldn't tell if they were sympathetic to her. They were like, wow, this guy's a fucking joke.
Starting point is 01:06:06 You know who's a fucking joke? Marjorie Taylor Green. She really, really sucks at investing. Let's click this. Because famously, she bought a bunch of crowd strike right before the big outage happened. Yeah, damn, dude. She's got to get her dentist to turn down the shade on those vaniers. On them.
Starting point is 01:06:22 On them jumpers. So she bought some ASML last week, which is a, I believe they are a, they're, They do something in the semiconductor space. You'll have to forgive me that I'm not Jim Kramer mode and I don't know off the top of my head. But just this morning... No one forgive him. As of this morning, they accidentally published their earnings early and it kind of shook the market today because it tanked 16%.
Starting point is 01:06:48 They were saying that their orders are significantly down. I believe they do manufacture. Can you Google it? ASML stock. What do they do? ASML holdings. Yeah. What do they do?
Starting point is 01:07:01 they are oh they're based in the Netherlands scroll down let's see microchip equipment maker warns of a slower recovery
Starting point is 01:07:13 so it put a little bit of fear into the market because you know Nvidia's been the captain at this at the helm of the ship for so long
Starting point is 01:07:23 so if one of these guys it could be the canary in the coal mine or maybe not it might be just kind of bird in the coal mine Yeah, it might be a sexy bird with a great rack.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Lots of blooms. It's distracting you from... Comes out of the coal mine all black. Yeah. He goes, don't send me back in there. Damn, I've been working next to that bird down in the coal mine. And maybe it's just because there's no human women down there. But it's starting to look good to me.
Starting point is 01:07:46 That cloaca, man. All right, let's do the comment of the week. Let's end on a positive note. All right, here we go. Jordan. This is the guy I was talking about. Big shout out to Jordan. He never thought he'd make it.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Here he is. Look at you today, pal. He says, I've been... I've been commenting on every episode since this podcast creation. I will never get comment of the week. And you know what? I'm okay with that. I'm okay with the fact that my two beautiful podcast boys will never acknowledge me or know that I exist.
Starting point is 01:08:13 As long as they're pumping out podcasts, I'll sacrifice whatever it takes. Well, we acknowledge you now, Jordan. You made it, pal. Yeah, but that's the one and only time. And now I've already forgotten who that first person was. I don't even know that he exists. Jordan, I actually. Yeah, I'm kidding.
Starting point is 01:08:28 This one comes from no sothayan. No soy, Ethan. Damn it. He says, Mr. Oh, Bababoo and Mr. Truly. That's not how you spell Babu, Babu. And that's not how you spell truly, Babu. Yeah, he did. I know.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Clever Tortal says, listening to this clip, or listening to this while chopping wood, so my boyfriend doesn't think I'm gay. That just made me. That one got you. Yeah, that one got me. I have to pee so bad, folks.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Guess who's got a cold brew running, coursing through his veins? Ooh. Me. Let's see. Shall we tease the bonus? Oh, we got a, yeah, it's going to be really fun. We're going to, there's a, there's a music video I want to look at with you. It's going to be really fun.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we're going to have a lot of fun. I think we're going to have a lot of fun. Those of you who remember. We can start teasing these at the beginning of the episodes. Yeah, yeah. Because no one watching. Well, no, because we got to keep their retention rate up.
Starting point is 01:09:30 We need people tuning in. We've got to grab their attention. We've got to lasso them and make sure that they never let go. So we're forced to watch. Hey, there's a lot of shit coming in this episode. Don't click away. Don't click away. Don't click away.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Don't click away. Don't click away. There's a lot of stuff coming. Don't click. Don't do that because I said shit. And you can't cuss in the first minute of the thing. Remember the Tom's Diner episode? Yeah, we're going to be referencing.
Starting point is 01:09:56 That's a huge promise. It's one of our most beloved episodes. You think it's going to be like that? I don't. We're probably going to fuck it up. I'm going to talk about the baseball game. I made custom shirts for me and my friends to wear to the Dodger game. And a train video that has to do.
Starting point is 01:10:07 There's a train video that I want to show you. Train the band. No, we're not going to talk about you. Remember that fucking song? Jupiter in her hair. Or whatever the fuck he says. Keep going. I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:10:20 It's something like. Stars of Jupiter or whatever. It's about his mom croaking. Well, I'm sorry. The lead singer of train. about his mom dying, and Matt King told me that. He was like, did you know that that song's about his mom dying? And it's about her, like, on her way to heaven.
Starting point is 01:10:34 At one point, he just goes, yeah, yeah. It's about his mom absolutely biting it. His mom just completely beefs it. His mom fully beefs it. And he's like, hold on. I got to sing a song about drops of Jupiter in her. Well, because that's his childish notion of heaven as you fly through space to get through heaven. And he's saying like, hey.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Did you pass through the Milky Way? Did you stop and look at Jupiter on your way to heaven, dead mom. And that's the whole thing, is that on your way to heaven, did you notice that the Milky Way looks nice? Yeah, but that's a fallacy because if heaven were a physical place
Starting point is 01:11:14 in the physical universe, then that means that we could access it, and that's just not true. Because I just know a thing or two about this. So, all right, everybody. Thank you very much for one. watching this episode or listening. Be sure to give us a thumbs up
Starting point is 01:11:29 and a comment for your chance to be a comment of a week. Bye!

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