The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 78: Luigi Mangione Kicks off the Class War with A Bang

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

This week we're talking all about Luigi Mangione, the folk hero who shot down the CEO of United Healthcare. We're taking it apart from all sides and it's a very fruitful discussion. Please enjoy. In ...this week's bonus we're talking about the girl who slept with 100 guys, UFOs, and Ben goes absolutely insane in the final ten minutes. https://benandemilshow.com LINK TO OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/CjujBt8g CHECK OUT OUR BONUS EPISODES: https://benandemilshow.com Subscribe to Emil's Substack: https://substack.com/@emilderosa Leave a comment to be featured as the comment of the week next week! And also, like this video, please! Thank you! __ MASTERCLASS: Give your loved ones the most unique gift they'll ever receive this holiday season with MasterClass. Head over to https://masterclass.com/baes for up to 50% off. MANDO: New customers get $5 off a starter pack with our exclusive code, which equates to over 40% off! Go to https://shopmando.com and use code BAES AURA FRAMES: For a limited time, visit https://auraframes.com and get $35 off Aura's best-selling Carver Mat frames by using promo code BAES at checkout! It's their best Black Friday Cyber Monday deal of the year so don't miss it! ROCKETMONEY: Stop wasting money on things you don't use! Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to https://rocketmoney.com/baes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Who is this Robin Hood? Who is this character? His name is Luigi. Luigi Manjone. One of the most Italian-looking guys. People were DMing me being like, are you going crazy for this? And it's like, wait, are you an Italian-American, strong jaw. I mean, pictures- Such a strong jaw. Pictures all over the internet with his shirt off. He's a surfer.
Starting point is 00:00:19 I mean, the abs. I mean, yeah, I'm going crazy for it. He said, hey, how you doing? That is the problem. His Italianist did get him in the end. He could not help but flirt with the... Get the teller, Donald. We cannot help it. Just as Andrew Cuomo said, the great Andrew Cuomo said, I'm not perverted, I'm Italian.
Starting point is 00:00:39 That's great. Yeah, that is right. You can see that. I'm looking down to town with Benin'i and me. Tell me what's going on. Tell me what's going on. So listen to her not to Benin me. Tell me what's going on.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Tell me what's going on. Tell me what's going on. Oh man, whoa, you guys got us. You just got us. We were in the middle of saying a funny joke. That's really funny. The joke you just said that everybody missed? Too bad we can't air it. Too bad we can't air it. Too naughty. Too, too, too, too naughty. Welcome. I wouldn't even say it's naughty. Yeah, you're right. Just about right. The average Joe just wouldn't understand. Wow. So you're an elitist now? When it comes to this kind of joke, I tell? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:30 It was pretty good. God, I wish you guys could have heard it. Man. Welcome back, everybody. Welcome back to this. What a wild, wild week we had. What a wild, it's a wild, wild week. Everybody did in a wild wild wild week.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Also, before we get gone, I do, I do, I think we already made a decision, but I do want to, before we go full hog, I want to put it to the audience to see if there's anything we're not taking into account. We have been toying with the idea of becoming a live. show of doing a... I mean, we're already live, but like livestream. What do you mean? I don't know. I'm just... Oh, go ahead. Yeah, because what... I mean, this is, even when we had a quicker turnaround at TMG,
Starting point is 00:02:14 it was still... Because I think we would get it out within 24 hours. Yeah. Maybe like 36 or something like that. But it was like, we would record, we would get in the car, you'd open Twitter, and you'd be like, you gotta be fucking kidding me. So it's...
Starting point is 00:02:29 Because stories would come out. Yes. And obviously last week was a great example of... As soon as we finish, man. I mean, it's... And the way everything moves so quick, it's like the thing people are talking about by the time it comes out.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Two days later, it's a fucking mess. So we are... I mean, last week was a perfect example. Just... Everything happened after we recorded. Very frustrating. We could have gone live multiple times if we wanted to.
Starting point is 00:02:52 So we're thinking we're gonna make... You know, we gotta get some ducks in a row. You can't just all of a sudden become a new format show. Yeah. But obviously we know there's going to be, no matter what we do, there's always some sicko who's like, I hate this. So we're not, if you're a sicko, save it for when we switch, you can do your, but if there's a genuine reason that you think. Well, there's nothing. The Ben and Emile Show would suffer for that.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Let us know. For the people. Or if you're like, we like that. Go ahead. But regardless, do comment all the time, period. Never stop commenting. Never stop commenting. ABC always be commenting.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Also, just a reminder. Comment right now. If you're not commenting right now, say, hey, let me pause it real quick and comment. And just a reminder to go to Stock Twits on YouTube and follow them and watch our episode from last week. It's going to be under the Live tab because we do a live show there every Friday, except for this week because Emile's going out of town. Also, to be clear, if it turns into a live show, you'll still be able to watch it whenever you want. It'll go up later as video on demand. and it'll go out.
Starting point is 00:03:59 The audio. The audio will be pushed to all audio platforms. Nothing will change if you don't want to tune in live. It might just be a little bit more fun and it allows us to get out. And we would probably do it on Wednesdays
Starting point is 00:04:08 just to leave that little bit of buffer for Friday's live stream. We'll figure that out. We'll figure that out, man. In the duck row thing. But let's know what you think about that. You want to hear my impression of the ducks getting in a row?
Starting point is 00:04:23 I'm moving one. Okay, I got them all. You get back. Okay, that's enough of that shit. That seems like a great place to start. All right, I'd like to let everybody know that the Christmas toad is almost here, meaning you better put on some chapstick to get ready to suck him off. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you're in for a treat.
Starting point is 00:04:48 The Christmas toad is, it's a new tradition. He's a toad. He comes once per year. And when he comes to town, it is, your duty to suck him off. He doesn't come. He does not get completed. You just suck him off for as long as you or he feels as necessary, but we made some Christmas tote
Starting point is 00:05:11 made... The people love Christmas toad. That's what they're saying. Anyway, we made Christmas Toad merch because why aren't we? And it's up on the website, Ben and Emile Show.com. I believe it's just what? shirts and a sweatshirt? Just shirts and sweatshirt? Great, great. And the nice, there's nothing about coming or sucking off on there. It's just a toad. It's otherwise safe, but yeah. So you can wear it with pride. And when you wear it, you don't have to tell anybody about the sucking off thing that he said. You could just say it's the Christmas toad. Yeah, it's the Christmas toad. Yeah, the art is right here. It'll be just like this. You got that? It'll be right
Starting point is 00:05:48 there, the Christmas toad right here in the middle. Merry Christmas. Not happy holidays, because this is a Christian nation. And I can say that as a Jew. I don't. care? It doesn't offend me? What other things can you say as a Jew? Ah, the K-word, but, uh, K-Rig. But, uh, let's get into the real story. Because, and, and before we even jump, obviously, the big story we missed last week was the, uh, the, the, the assassination of Brian Thompson, the United Thompson, Thompson, Thompson, Thompson, Thompson. Thompson. That's weird. You fuck that up. Just plow right through, baby. Yeah, yeah. The United Healthcare CEO, um, the, they have the person of interest in custody. Before we even get into that, because I feel like there's a real pre and post
Starting point is 00:06:28 getting someone, you know, getting the person of interest. I feel like, you know, the narrative's different now. We had, it was beautiful. It was very pure before they got someone in custody because it was just, we didn't know, we were all rooting for him to get away. It was. We all thought he got away. We did. We thought he was home free. And he was basically just something. kind of like mythical folk hero for all of us and it was a very it's still kind of disorienting it's uh you know usually when something like this happens it's it's politicized immediately there's a divide immediately like if you think about other high profile killings Kyle written house oh yeah sure daniel penny the guy who you know which is it's very
Starting point is 00:07:19 funny that that is going on at the same time they're trying to make it go on at the same time Well, I just think, I just think timing-wise because he got off. It's just happening at the same time. And usually it's a weird thing where, you know, people aren't, people are just saying, where do I fall on the political spectrum? And that's going to make me decide how I feel about this thing. Yes. Not this one.
Starting point is 00:07:43 This one was the most united. This is the most united the country has ever been in recent memory. Yeah. And we'll get into that. And even, I think, some right-wing people tried to claim that there was, if you were, if you celebrated this at all, there was. No, they're saying the leftists are celebrating it. Yes. And that that was some kind of, there was barbarity involved.
Starting point is 00:08:07 You were a depraved individual. You know, the most high-profile one's probably Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh. And their comments are full of people going, stop calling this the left. Yeah. You're an idiot if you think this is like a left of, you know. Everyone in this country. Some people saying, I remember seeing a couple that said, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:08:28 oh, I, I understand finally what your grift is. You're trying to pit, you, you're just trying to politicize this. You politicize everything. This ain't about left versus right. This is about rich versus poor. Yeah, which is pretty great. Which is, would be a really beautiful outcome of all of this. If people could start to feel like, oh, wow, maybe these guys are not on my team,
Starting point is 00:08:50 which I think they try to position themselves. says, I'm between the elites and you. I'm protecting you. I'm speaking up. So Brian Thompson is the is the CEO who got killed. And when I Googled him, Google hadn't yet caught up. And it showed me Brian Thompson, this actor guy. And I'm sure he's equal parts pumped and upset because I just love that photo of him. He just looks like, um, how about him? It's like that guy, Matt Gates, G-A-T-E-S, who every time the pedophile accusations come up, he has to be like, not that guy.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Oh, yeah. Or Jeff, I know that there was a guy on Twitter named Jeff Epstein. Oh, yes, of course. Same thing. But so, no, it is Brian, not Brian Thompson in the head. I know you might be thinking, wait, Brian Thompson, the actor got killed? The guy from the first Terminator? He's safe.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Don't worry. I'm sure his star meter on IMDB just shot up quite a few points, but no. Brian Thompson, the 50-something-year-old, is he divorced? I think he was divorced. He lives separately from his wife. I don't think they were divorced. I think they were living separately. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:10:06 But that's another funny thing is that, you know, obviously it wasn't just as much as like Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh were trying to say, you know, this was the celebrations of leftist freaks or whatever. the New York Times and all of these publications are trying to, you know, when it's coming out they're like, who would do something to a family man? Yeah. A good man, an upstanding citizen like Brian Thompson. Yeah. And... Not that living away from your wife makes you a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yeah, I'm not good. But I did have a DUI that people weren't talking about. But again, who hasn't been eligible for one of those? That's pretty good. That's pretty good phrasing. Who hasn't been eligible for one of those? I think amen, brother. I think we've all been eligible for a Dewey before. But he actually, we came to learn.
Starting point is 00:10:57 That's not an endorsement. Don't do that. Don't drive. This isn't the equivalent. We're not prefaceing all this with like, well, what was he wearing type thing? What was he wearing type thing? No, but the what was he wearing? We'll get to.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I mean, the what was wearing a blue suit. He was wearing a blue suit. He was wearing destroying Americans lives. He was wearing a target on his back. So I think he was asking for it. But he was, as it turns out, he was being investigated for insider trading because he, for last, this last February, he and some other executives at United Healthcare. United Healthcare, by the way, head and shoulders above the other health insurers,
Starting point is 00:11:39 they are the biggest by far. I mean, they're like a $500 billion company. Oh, yeah, biggest health care insurer. Huge. I thought you were going to say, because Ken Clippenstein, the reporter, posted the graph that everyone has been seeing, the claim denial rates by insurance company. Not only are they the largest... They deny about a third of all claims.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Yes. They also have the highest rate of denials at 32%. Yeah. Which is astounding. A lot of that ticked up under the leadership of Brian Thompson, as did United Health's profits, as did their stock, which up until his killing, was at all-time high. Again, not saying that I'm not making, I'm just stating the facts here. But so... What are you worried that that implies?
Starting point is 00:12:22 I don't know. I just don't, I just don't, we'll get to how we feel about this. But what are you worried that that implies? I don't know. Just like, oh, these things actually make him worthy of being killed. No, insider trading is not a punishable offense by death. But except when I do it, which I haven't. I've never done that.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I had the chance one time years ago, and I didn't do it. Loser. Oh, God. This guy that I, but this is before I was licensed or anything. This guy worked at Goldman Sachs and was like, drunk as hell. And he said, you know what stock you should buy? And he gave me the ticker symbol for this like biotech company. And I was like, okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:04 And I didn't. And it went from like eight bucks a share to 80. And I just thought, I want to fucking die. Hey, gang, we want to take a quick break to talk a little bit about the holiday season. You know, you got these gift idea. Are you struggling with giving a gift? I'm always struggling with gift ideas. I'm always struggling, but this year's going to be a little easier.
Starting point is 00:13:29 This year's a little bit easier because imagine this, all right? Just picture you got your loved one, and they've got a celebrity that they absolutely adore, right? Or a subject they're interested in. Yeah, that they wish that they could hang out with. Like I know you are a big tennis guy. Well, that's the thing. I got, so we're talking about masterclass, folks, and I got myself, I got myself one.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Perfect gift. You know, yeah, I got myself a gift, basically. You know, I'm all up in that Serena Williams master class. I am learning about mental toughness. I'm learning about my, I'm trying to improve my groundstrokes. I didn't even know that was a word in tennis. Groundstrokes? Groundstrokes?
Starting point is 00:14:04 Groundstrokes is the name of the game. Wow. All right. Well, I'd be doing ground strokes, but I just call that mopping. We're going to cut that out. No, we can keep that. Don't just give your loved ones something that they want. Give them something they want to be tennis player, a better tennis player, a better cook,
Starting point is 00:14:21 a better entrepreneur or artists, just like they've always wanted that. That, my friends, that's the gift of master class. I'm gifted my whole family. You got someone who's a photographer. Get them a photography class from a well-renowned photographer. Get them, yeah, business class. Get them a... They want to learn how to invest in the stock market?
Starting point is 00:14:41 Yeah. Ray Dalio. Boom. There. That's one right there. They want to learn how to build a billion dollar company? Mark Cuban. They are on Masterclass. That's the thing. You think of a name. I guarantee you that they got a master class you can take. And you're going to seem thoughtful, okay? Because your family is going to go like, wow, he understands what I'm interested in. He's getting me something that I can help learn more about.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Masterclass always has great offers during the holidays, sometimes up to as much as 50% off. So head over to masterclass.com slash bays for the current offer. That's up to 50% off at masterclass.com slash bays, masterclass.com slash bays. Anywho, Brian Thompson was accused of insider trading because last February, he and a bunch of other executives sold tens of millions of dollars worth of their stock just prior to an investigation. Yeah, $120 million worth of stock into a, uh, Because they were aware that a DOJ investigation was coming. The public was not. And they said, you know what, let's dump some of this.
Starting point is 00:15:46 It's also always so fun. It's, it's, they were getting sued by the city of Hollywood Firefighters Department. It's always like. Oh, because it's a pension fund. It's always like the teacher's fun being like, you guys ripped us off. And they're like, shut up. And it is worth, it is worth noting that when that happened, the stock was around $400 per share. And now it's well above that.
Starting point is 00:16:07 It's like $500 something. But when he sold, so I think he sold $15 million worth. After that, $25 billion in shareholder value was erased once the news broke. And then he died. But also important to note, it's not just the entire trading. Under him was, as you were saying, the raise of more denials, more claim denials. They were using weird algorithms to deny claims. One was, which they were being sued, Navi Health, which incentive...
Starting point is 00:16:38 incentivizes employees to use a tool to deny care. Why would they do that? It's almost like they've got shareholders, they're beholding, too. Testing a new HCE auto authorization model, noted that it produced faster handle times, but there was also an increase in the number of cases that were denied due to the system catching errors that were missed in the original review. Yeah, so they were just trying to make this whole AI thing, because they also knew that people just do not have the time and energy to file appeals.
Starting point is 00:17:12 They figured out it was like 0.92% of people will actually file an appeal. I'm sure it's very, very tedious and cumbersome. Yeah, I'm sure they're not making it easy to do it. Yeah, you got to write a handwritten letter or some shit, who knows. One thing I can say, and this is just to underscore a lot of the theme of this whole thing, which is the haves and the have-nots, if anybody else were to get shot in the street like that, ain't nobody going on any kind of manhunt for that killer.
Starting point is 00:17:42 It would just be, hey, maybe it makes the, maybe it makes the evening news. People get shot and killed all the time. But when it's a big bad CEO, they're all going, oh, we've got to find this guy. We got to find him. We got to use all the resources at our disposal. And you bet your ass that they used every single resource. legal and illegal to track down our boy Luigi Manjone.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Which didn't really net much results. They got it off some elderly gentleman that shared a bus with him. That's what it ended up being? Yeah. Before we even get to that, though. But that was the most beautiful thing. This was not just people going crazy on Twitter. It seemed like every person was like good. I'm glad that motherfucker is dead.
Starting point is 00:18:37 It was just insane to watch. I mean, it was, they had to take down the post on Facebook because it had so many, people were hitting the laughing emoji so many times. They were taking down posts, disabling comments, all over Reddit, even doctors and nurses were like, I'm kind of glad this motherfucker's dead. And like sharing stories of United Healthcare, making their life hell, making their patients, life hell um we had a real life robin hood people were feeling really good so who is uh who is this robin hood who is this character his name is luigi luigi mangoni uh one of the most
Starting point is 00:19:22 italian looking guys you could also this is all allegedly that's that's why i'm saying like this whole thing changes now because it was everyone could make it whatever they wanted yeah and it does stink a little bit. It's kind of stinky. It definitely does. And now the whole story is becoming whatever the NYPD and law enforcement is telling us. Yeah. Yeah. And what have you felt good about trusting them as a source? Yeah. Mayor Eric Adams. We caught him. His name is Luigi Manjone. And already? He might have had a gun and we took his gun. Ha ha ha. I love. I love. The anti-Italian sentiment in this country is already going crazy. Yeah. Boy. I'm seeing you guys.
Starting point is 00:20:05 As if it wasn't high enough already. There was already a huge problem in this country. I ate some meatballs the other night with great reluctance. So. Out of respect. Luigi was, as it turns out a bit of a doomer. He, if you found yourself going through his Twitter trying to file him under left or right, as everybody was trying to do. I think you're making a fatal error.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Everyone, you're stuck thinking about this in the wrong way. You want to think... Which isn't your fault. Well, sure. We've all been programmed to... Every time there's a shooting or something or something big, everybody scrambles to go, was he left or right? Was he left?
Starting point is 00:20:47 Who... Whose team gets the blame? You got to claim him because he liked Bernie Sanders's Facebook page or some shit. But he's extremely interesting. He grew up very wealthy from Maryland. a bit of a, like a important, significant family in Maryland. His grandparents started some kind of real estate company where they would build homes around golf courses,
Starting point is 00:21:15 then ended up starting a nursing home company, and then even owned a radio station. Hell yeah. I love that. And had a pretty privileged life, went to a very fancy prep school in Baltimore called the Gilman School, All-Boy's School. All-Boy's school. Currently, tuition's about $40,000 a year.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Crazy. He was a valedictorian? Oh, yeah. Smart guy. That ended up getting his bachelor's and his master's from UPenn. Yep. And then I don't exactly know what this is, but he was working as a head counselor for this pre-college thing at Stanford. So very much in the realm of elite institutions.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Did you read his manifesto that was allegedly leaked online? Yes. Key word allegedly. Like that's what's so hard. As soon as law enforcement is involved in like this, I'm just like, I don't know what is real. Yeah. That's where everything feels fishy. Okay, he was caught in Altoona, Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Yeah. The bus he was riding stopped to get something to eat for everybody at a McDonald's. An elderly person on the bus recognized him. This is the story they're telling. Yeah. Called in the tip. They come and get him. He's got, he's got the four IDs on, the four fake IDs on him.
Starting point is 00:22:33 He's got, $10,000 in cash, $8,000 in American dollars, $2,000 in foreign currency. And, of course, he's got his ghost gun and silencer. If you don't know what a ghost gun is, it's... It's when a ghost dies. Or a gun dies. Fuck! A gun dies and then its spirit continues to live on. But they're guns that are hard to trace and they're, you know, manufactured from different parts.
Starting point is 00:22:57 sometimes they're 3D printed. So that's fishy right there. And he also had the manifesto. Which it feels weird even calling a manifesto. It's 262 words. It's a two-page handwritten manifesto. Well, so that must be different from the one that I... Yeah, there's a fake one.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Yeah, the fake one, because on the fake one, he talks about his mom having some kind of injury. That must be fake because his family would obviously have the wealth enough to do that. But so the story goes, according to... Testimony, not testimony, but anecdotes from people who claimed to have known him went to school with him. He had injured his back on a surf trip or something. Yeah, there was a surfing incident. He moved to Japan and he just kind of fell off the grid. There were even, people even dug up tweets of friends like tweeting at him saying like, hey man, hope you're okay.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Haven't heard from you a while. This is in the past six months. Yeah. Up until the past six months, he was in contact with friends and family. Yeah. And now everyone's really focused on these last six months. Yes. But before that, he was kind of bouncing around.
Starting point is 00:24:01 He was living in Hawaii. They have some, that's what's so crazy. They have so many people, friends who are posting, people who are coming out and talking about him. His hot sister? He seemed, do you want to check the age on that before you? Oh, come on, dude. Give me a fucking break. What?
Starting point is 00:24:22 Because I said, the missing woman from 2001. One, oh, she's good looking, and then it turns out it was her portrait from her senior portrait. Yes, that's exactly. Don't crucify me, okay? Hey, gang, we've got to take another quick little break. Ben, I got something to share with you. What do you have to share with me? You probably didn't even notice, but I played tennis right before I got here.
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Starting point is 00:27:24 It's like a commune almost for, you know, um... Italians? I believe they call that a pizzeria. I believe they call that Central New Jersey. But for like, what do they call them? Digital nomads, basically. It was, but more intentional than that. I think they were kind of, they capped it at a certain amount,
Starting point is 00:27:43 but it was out in Hawaii. And the guy who ran the place was on CNN and was talking about how much pain he was in, from this back injury, and it was affecting his romantic life, which I didn't realize. He said, Mr. Martin said, he and others in the community came to understand that the pain was no small matter to a young man yearning for a normal lifestyle. He knew that dating and being physically intimate with his back condition wasn't possible. Damn, dude.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Which I don't know exactly what means if he's not able to get an erection because of what's going on with his back. Maybe, or no position was comfortable to have sex in. I hope to God he was able to crank one out. Doesn't seem like it given his actions. I guess, yeah. But what's, what's, so, yeah, it's a little suspicious to me that he, this guy, you need to tell me that this guy is slick enough to carry out, to carry out this, this killing in New York, get away, Scott Free. But then when he's caught, he still has the murder weapon.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Yeah, it's all very weird. Between New York and Pennsylvania where he's caught, so many places, so many opportunities to ditch everything you got. It's a ghost gun. Shave your head, whatever the fuck. Wear a wig. Who the hell knows? He's still got the gun on him.
Starting point is 00:29:07 He's got this cash that, by the way, at his arraignment, he said he apparently didn't know where that money came from. Super fishy. Stinks like fish, if you ask me. He's got the gun. He's got the silencer. Yeah, but that might have been him trying to be... get, uh, be able to get bail because, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Because that obviously reeks of flight risk if he's got a bunch of fake IDs and, uh, foreign cash and stuff like that. And you know what? He might have just been like, I, uh, maybe it's possible he had other plans. Maybe it's, it's possible he was going to, uh, kill again, kill someone else. Oh, God forbid, kill himself. Uh, he had a, he also had this written manifesto on his person. And in it, he said that he act alone. acted alone also carrying the hard copy of the manifesto maybe he was getting ready to mail it you never know maybe he was getting ready to mail it from a different state to kind of throw the that's what's i mean there's so many things in this that at first blush make you go that's suspicious but then i can very quickly potentially explain it away like him still having the gun maybe he had it on for protection or for he had other plans the most viable explanation i've heard is that Have you heard of the, like, parallel construction thing people are pointing up?
Starting point is 00:30:25 I have. Remind me what it is. What is parallel construction? It's basically that law enforcement could be using unconstitutional methods that they don't really want to be forthcoming about. So as they're doing that, they're kind of building this parallel evidentiary case. That isn't real? And that they're going to be putting out. No, they're like, you know, using...
Starting point is 00:30:52 Oh, they, like, violated his rights and the rights of the people that came across. And then so they're like, and here's how it happened. And everyone's going, that kind of fucking feels weird. A guy, an old man on a bus? Everybody knows that old men sleep on buses. They're not... Even, they really had no idea who he was. It's odd he...
Starting point is 00:31:11 He gave them a fake ID. Yeah. The one that he used at the hostel. He could have given his real ID and been like, I'm Luigi Manjone. Yeah. Of the golf course real estate fan. But maybe you know our radio station.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Yeah. Or our nursing homes, even. Well, no matter what. Call my grandfather. He'll say, he'll work this out. This is how I feel, these guys. When people ask about Luigi Manjone, oh, the murderer?
Starting point is 00:31:41 He was the best guy around. What about the people he murdered? What murder? What murder? You know I love those guys. Oh, God, I love those guys. So, let's see. Wait, but is that really how you feel?
Starting point is 00:31:55 It seems like you're pretty cagey about... How I feel about all this? Yeah. Well, we can wait if you... Well, I've got all this written out. I've got all this written out right here. Did Brian... What's his name?
Starting point is 00:32:05 Brian Johnson? Thompson. Thompson. Brian Johnson is the don't die guy. The don't die guy. Plus, I believe, that was also the replacement for Bonn Scott of ACDC, if I'm not mistaken. Okay. Everyone knows Bond Scott era DCD.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Yeah, Bon Scott. Bon Scott sounds like a French guy. He's Australian. A guy whose dad had what had sex with a French lady. And he had to compromise. Name his kid something French, but kept the American last name. Because the only French you know is Bon Jo. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. We can cut that. Don't cut that. No, I don't know. But okay. So here's my editorial on this whole thing. You have an editorial. Well, yeah. Well, kind of. This is all editorial. no this is this is straight facts from me okay yeah well yeah it is facts did brian thompson deserve to die
Starting point is 00:32:54 that's kind of at the the crux of all this right did he deserve to die and i'm not going to make a judgment call on that because it's not for me to say uh whether somebody lives or dies or how they get punished that's for the court of law to determine yeah but you can a lot of people are calling this and I'm inclined to agree Brian Thompson and people like this a mass murderer if you will. Yeah, indirect mass murderer. I would agree with that. Not indirect
Starting point is 00:33:23 and I think that's the problem. Everyone's like, nope, he wears a fucking suit and tie to work and he just makes decisions and he's got his annual reports. Sure. The entire business model is to juice shareholder value by making sure as little people get care as possible. I mean indirect in that
Starting point is 00:33:39 he's not deliberately, he himself is not pulling the plug, he's not doing all these kind of things. I won't get caught on semantics. I would say he is indirectly, which is just as I know, but it's that indirect that like makes it feel like, well,
Starting point is 00:33:55 yeah. Well, because then you would have to give everybody along that whole chain of command equal responsibility. And we should. It's like, it's like with the ICC stuff with Israel where like, you know, Lindsey Graham is like, well,
Starting point is 00:34:11 if they're liable, then that means we might end up in jail too. And everyone's like, yeah, you're getting it. Yeah, yeah. I think of the scene in the Incredibles, the first Incredibles, where Bob is still working for the insurance company. Yeah, someone posted that his whole redemption arcs comes from him choking out his. I don't think that when he's in the service of the company, like denying claims, I don't think that he's just as culpable as his evil boss is what I'm trying to say. oh i think if you have a if you just got a job one of one of our one of the biggest employers in the country sure uh not just united but the entire health care sector yeah no i don't think
Starting point is 00:34:54 you are we're getting hung up on this i think that he's indirectly responsible for tens of thousands of deaths right uh which is a lot which is a lot surely a lot and a lot of what people who are against this whole narrative are saying is that oh, like this isn't the way to do it. Vigilini justice is not justice. It's just this person acting on their own. And like, sure, I can get behind
Starting point is 00:35:25 that argument about vigilante justice because then it's just, then this whole thing that we've got, this whole society we've built is for naught. if anybody can just go determine how they are going to exact punishment for whatever. Yeah, I think that is the problem is that the whole society we've built is creates desperate people who are... Elements of it do.
Starting point is 00:35:53 So like I wrote here, this guy, Brian, was indirectly responsible for the pain, suffering, and death of thousands, tens of thousands of people. As during his tenure at United Healthcare, the Niles went up. up, as did their profits. Immediately after he was shot, they had a quote from his wife. That was, basically, they asked, you know, was anything out of the ordinary happening? Was there any... We get dead threats all the time.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Exactly. Yeah. Well, no, you know, there was death threats, something about denying claims, but, you know, that's... Right. And so you have this... You have this system where they've built in this, well, you know, that's just a cost of doing business. Yeah. That's just part of the job.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Nathan J. Robinson... had like a very succinct take on it. He just said, he retweeted part of the story and he said just, live a life where people are not celebrating when you die. Hey, everybody. We want to take another quick break.
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Starting point is 00:38:52 reward people like brian and not punish him ever ever ever ever ever ever because it's all legal what he's doing. Same thing. You can apply that same kind of logic to the bankers who caused the Great Recession. These are people whose job like what was Elon Musk
Starting point is 00:39:16 put it perfectly. He clearly doesn't understand this. I'm curious to see how his followers who think he's some kind of protection against like elites trying to take over everything. He said, it's disgusting how everyone is turning this guy into some kind of folk hero. Insurance companies, like any company, have a duty to shareholders to maximize profits,
Starting point is 00:39:37 no matter how ruthlessly. The radical left disposing otherwise needs to grow the hell up. But that is, it's, as he said, it's not just insurance companies. I mean, you, I'm sure you've all been exposed to stories of going all the way back to, what was it, Ford with the Pinto, where it's the, um, let them burn or whatever, the memo. Oh, yeah. Because they basically had to crunch the numbers. Which would cost them more?
Starting point is 00:40:02 The deaths from whatever, like the faulty fuel gauge or whatever, or the lawsuits. Yeah. So, I mean, the, or the recall. Yeah. So they did it. If we recalled, it'll be about, it'll cost us about $121 million. If you think this many fuel gauges are going to fail, this many people die, lawsuits are going to cost us about $45 million.
Starting point is 00:40:25 So by Elon Musk's logic, we might as well let people die. It doesn't matter. That's not good. That's not bad because that CEO of Ford at the time is just acting in the service of his shareholder. He's just doing his duty. Prudent business decision. Suck my dick, Elon Musk. Suck my dick. What was Brian Johnson? Johnson. Sorry. Jesus Christ. It's such a forgettable name. The guy just died. Brian Thompson. Brian Thompson. What was his job exactly? What was the company's goal? How are they supposed to pay their dividend? Because they do. United States. United Healthcare is so flush with profits that they pay a dividend to their shareholders. They give them a little share of the profits because they're making that much. They're a $500 billion company. His job was to take money from people, customers, and then make sure that the company
Starting point is 00:41:16 denies as many claims as possible. Deny as much coverage as possible. Why? To maximize the profits in service of the shareholders, in service of the pension funds, in service of everybody who's got a stake in United Healthcare, squeezing every last bit of profit out of the people who pay the premiums. But that's the most compelling part. You said, you know, for anyone who can't understand this, the most compelling part about
Starting point is 00:41:42 all of this is that everyone understood it immediately because everyone has interacted with the system. Everyone, I mean, I'm 35. I now have a bunch of friends who are new parents. It's crazy how many people I've talked to post... post birth been like how's everything going
Starting point is 00:42:01 who note that now they're worried about what the bill is going to look like not real it's it's just fucking insane I mean my my dandruff
Starting point is 00:42:10 won't someone think of me my dandrefoam I had to pay $980 for this can of foam no you didn't yeah that's how much I paid I didn't tell you that $980
Starting point is 00:42:20 yeah I suffer I needed to buy it I was like I sat there at the pharmacy and I was like do I really want to put this on my credit card right now, but I was like, I am at my wits end. I cannot keep washing my fucking hair with this shampoo that doesn't work. I'm going to try the phone. I'm just going
Starting point is 00:42:40 to try it. I mean, we're joking. And it didn't get covered because a Kaiser Permanente doctor did not prescribe it. So the pharmacist guessed because she said, you know what, next time, try to, try to, I will have to go to my main Kaiser doctor. Then either she will be able to prescribe it or she will refer me to a Kaiser Permanente dermatologist who will then be able to hopefully be able to prescribe it. But I'm sure I will have to show proof that I have tried keto connozol shampoo. I've tried clobatosol steroid topical cream. Fucking, all of these things. Yeah, but we're joking about your dandruff, but that is very real. You've been
Starting point is 00:43:18 trying to figure it out forever. You are at it. You're like, fine, I'll pay fucking close to $1,000 just to get some fucking relief. And in the wake of all this, I mean, there, I'm sure you've seen. seen so many. People are posting their own stories and it's, I can barely make it through. It's heartbreaking. People talking about getting cancer and having to fight tooth and nail. Someone posted a story about a woman who got mauled by a bear. Literally, her face ripped off and she had to go through months, if not years of rehab and all of this, all of these different surgeries and everything. And when it was all said and done, she said the worst part was dealing
Starting point is 00:43:57 with insurance. Wow. Getting your face ripped off by a bear, getting transplants, skin grafts, and all that stuff, and the worst part of that experience, dealing with insurance. Boy, howdy, amen. So if you want to bitch about something, why not bitch about the system that rewards people like Brian and punishes people like bear face lady? There is no, there is no system in place to effectively hold people like him accountable and that entire industry accountable because it's too big. The people that make the laws that are meant to give justice
Starting point is 00:44:32 that people speak of, the critics of all this, oh, well, there is no justice. There would never be justice. That guy would continue to live his life. He would continue, the stock would continue to climb, people would continue to die, get their service denied, all that shit.
Starting point is 00:44:47 And because the people who are supposed to be in a position to deliver justice are bought and paid for by people and lobbyists who serve industries like this massive, massive fucking healthcare industry. I'd love to be able to say, oh, Mr. Manjone, he shouldn't have done that. He should have let the justice system do its thing. But what fucking justice system? These are the same corporations. They put, they put microplastics in our balls while we sleep. They come, they break into my apartment, they inject my balls with microplastic. They put it in my drinking water. They stalk
Starting point is 00:45:21 me. They gangstocked me. They follow me around everywhere I go. I mean, seriously, that's the worst part. It's like that fucking Mark Ruffalo movie where it's like DuPont poisoning water supply. That's the best we get is a movie decades after the fact that we go, wow, someone should make sure no one's doing that.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Boy, they should make sure. We're still doing it. Wells Fargo, just a few years ago, when they opened up dozens of accounts in people's names, ruining their lives, ruining their credit scores, racking up insane fees. Any punishment there? Take a wild fucking guess. No. Again, the bankers who did 2009, nothing. There's just no... There are a few acute cases. Some of the Enron executives got punished. For the most part, though, ain't nobody gets punished in this here
Starting point is 00:46:08 world of ours. Sure, they love like a high profile figure. Sam Bankman Fried is a great example where, you know, he got probably an exorbitant sentence when I would much rather than go after many white-collar criminals with, I'm sure none of those guys want to go to jail for five years. No. How about the people who got us, the doctors who got most of a lot of Americans hooked on opioids because the Sackler family and the big pharmaceutical companies gave them, gave these doctors bribed, not bribes, but, you know, kickbacks and shit. or the never-ending wars that we've got.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Where's the justice system, bitch? Where is it? I'm waiting. Who's coming to save us? Luigi Manjone. That's who's coming to save us. Well, but that's the thing, not to get, I didn't. Not quite, but are we going to see, is anything going to come of this?
Starting point is 00:46:55 I think, you know, you've obviously seen, I think that executive boards have maybe taken notice, taken notice. They've taken down. They're going to ratchet up their security. They're not going to do anything else. Yeah, there's all kinds of, people are posting, um, job postings for executive security positions at Amazon at wherever, they're going to beef up all their security.
Starting point is 00:47:18 They've taken down their company info pages where you can see who the CEO is of whatever company. But yeah, I don't think we're actually going to see. The one thing I am hopeful about is that thing we're seeing on the Matt Walsh and the Ben Shapiro things where people are going, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:38 fuck you. This isn't left or right. We've all been fucked over by this. And I think that's what we're talking about when we're saying that people have a bad read of this when they're like, where does this guy fall on the left or the night? Don't fall into that trap. Don't care what he tweeted. Don't care who he followed. Don't give a shit about any of that. Just don't care. Hey, everybody. We're going to take one last quick break. Ben, I need to let you know something. What? So I've been buying gifts for everybody. And the biggest problem for me is my credit card statement out of control. I was like, I can't tell what I can't tell what I'm spending on gifts, what's actually real.
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Starting point is 00:50:16 Also, people looking through his follow list and being and you're trying to decipher something you won't be able to understand. I follow Donald Trump because we use because you love him. We use Twitter to keep up with stuff. Donald Trump is and I love him.
Starting point is 00:50:34 And I love him. But they're going like, oh, he followed so-and-so. Which, look, he might like that guy, but it doesn't fucking give you an insight into this guy. Some of his tweets do. He's definitely, I would say he's more normy than people think, though. I think, like, that's just kind of what online shit is. It's not, you can't make it out in this left-right dynamic.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Because left-right dynamic doesn't really exist. When, if you think, like, the Democrats are left, that's just not really a real thing. They're a party of elites. It's like when people were confused that, like, I don't get why there's this huge number of people who, Trump supporters, who said, if Bernie was running, I would have voted for him. It's like, doesn't that tell you anything? People would rather vote for change than the system to stay the same. I got a note just back on what I was saying.
Starting point is 00:51:26 What do you think happens when you've got this system in place where so many people suffer, lose their? they either lose their insurance, it kicks them over the edge into poverty or struggling to make rent because of whatever kind of health issues. I mean, it happens to people every day all the time. What do you think happens when a population gets kind of pushed to the brink like that? And you've got them, it's so easy to get guns. Oh, I mean, they really created a powder. was gonna have i thought that that's what the point of the guns was like isn't that it to like stop to
Starting point is 00:52:11 i i can i can very easily make the case that things like health insurance are uh quite tyrannical also what the fuck am i paying three hundred and fifty dollars a month for as a healthy which is on the low end which is on the low end i've got thank you i've and mine's going up because the because the new year starts in a month and uh wait what's it going up to i think it's i think it's like 365 now or something like that which is insane i mean i get literally one doctor's visit a year everything else is so expensive uh i wanted to do this test and it's like well i've already used my one doctor's visit a year and to do anything i got to i mean you guys understand how it works it's the fucking worst uh but what you're describing it is
Starting point is 00:52:58 kind of insane i mean you're and just real fast Very easy to get guns. Now imagine, I don't know if we can even say this on YouTube, but people, you're talking about people who are getting, um, possibly. Yeah. I mean, look at the, dude, even, because you got to go outside of Twitter. You got to go to like normie spaces. I'm all over the New York Times comments because I'm like, what are like just good liberals
Starting point is 00:53:24 saying about this? And they're like, pretty much like, all right, look, I don't want to condone murder, but this motherfucker had it coming, which is like the general sentiment. That's kind of my sentiment. And I scrolled through so many, the one that went through Luigi's, you know, personal history, close to 7,000 comments now, just every single one I'm seeing. And I'm going through all, which is the ones that are coming in chronologically, and I'm going through the reader picks. And it's just like, God, damn. So you're seeing a guy who's lionized for this action. And if you're someone who's been fucked over by the healthcare industry,
Starting point is 00:54:01 your doctor gives you a death sentence, like, look, you got a month to live. Or they hope that, like, oh, you've got some condition. It is in their best interest to not have to pay the exorbitant bills that are billed to them. That is how the all insurance industries work.
Starting point is 00:54:21 You pay a premium. The insurance company collects your premium as well as the premiums that everybody else is paying to that company. That then becomes what's called the float. That company, it's kind of like a bank, how a bank uses all their money to invest and see a return on that profit or on those investments. Insurance companies function the same way. It's not just purely, oh, they take in all this money and then they hope to spend less than what they take
Starting point is 00:54:49 in. No, no, no, no. They take in all that money. They invest it. They've got investment. They do all kinds of stuff with that money. And then that's where a lot of their profit comes from, in addition to denying claims. So it's... And they're making insane profits. Oh, yeah. I think someone, I read that they made like $16 billion in profit this year or so far this year or last year or something like that.
Starting point is 00:55:15 And I just got to say, meanwhile, to underscore how this isn't a left and right issue, it is a it is a haves and haves-nots. have nuts. It's rich and rich and poor, ultra wealthy. That's why you haven't been seeing Elon Musk tweeting very much about it. He's kind of other than that one. Donald Trump, we kept checking, we kept refreshing his thing because we're like, what are they going to say about this? Because their whole thing is somehow riling up this populace basin being like, we are economic populace. I'm like, okay, that doesn't really check out to me. Richest guy in the world plus some fucking game show billionaire. Yeah, you're a populace. Suck my dick.
Starting point is 00:55:53 um please but yeah awfully fucking quiet except for this ridiculous take they're trying that's the thing it's like they've got their if they are the kings in the chessboard the likes of ben Shapiro and um and all the you know Tucker carlson's and all those guys those are like the knights and the in the rooks and shit and their task is to please their overlords by going out and making the culture uh making us all continue to have this spat over left and right when the real issue all along has always been us 99% 99.9% versus them. I read today that the world's billionaires jumped by about 17% to 2682 this year and their wealth climbed to $14 trillion from 12 trillion last year. Meanwhile, global GDP, everybody on Earth, everybody's GDP, all our gross domestic product, $105 trillion.
Starting point is 00:56:59 So these motherfuckers have over 10% of, they possess these 2,682 people, over 10% of the global GDP. I'm just, I don't know how much further, I mean, when we- But this is the thing, they pushed it too far. They were at the brink already. They, you know, destroyed the middle class and they're finding out that they're not going to be able to have a functioning society without allowing people to take part. It's, I finally looked it up because I have definitely brought it up on the show before. It was like probably 2015. I don't know if I saw it live or if it was on something, but Bill Burr had this joke about, I've definitely brought it up. No, no, 2015 or 2016.
Starting point is 00:57:50 And it was this, uh, he said, you know, like, he was joking. The only thing, the only way things are really going to change is when people start going over gated communities and slicing, jumping over the walls, slicing people's throats. Yeah. And I remember, like, people got uncomfortable at first and then he like brought it back and made it funny. But I was like, did I fucking dream this or, and I googled it and finally found like some grainy YouTube clip of it. I was like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:58:14 But it is very close. He left a, he had a very active good reads and he left a. Goodreads is the website where you review books, and Luigi Mangione had a Goodreads account. Yes, full of stuff that's very consistent with the history we're getting. There's books about, there's one called Crooked, all about Backpane and how to manage it and all that stuff. There's a bunch of books about Backpane. And then some, you know, of course, he left a review on the Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber Manifesto, gave it four out of five stars. It's too long to read the whole thing, but he had this part.
Starting point is 00:58:48 when all other forms of communication fail, violence is necessary to survive. You may not like his methods, but to see things from his perspective, it's not terrorism, it's war and revolution. Fossil fuel companies actively suppress anything that stands in their way, and within a generation or two, it will begin costing human lives by greater and greater magnitudes until the earth is just a flaming ball orbiting a third from the sun. Peaceful protest is outright ignored. Economic protest isn't possible in the current system, so how long until we recognize that violence against those who lead us to such destruction is justified as self-defense. Hey, I'm Doug.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Yeah, that's fuck it a day, dude. I also love giving it four out of five stars. It's like... Yeah. But... And I mean, that's where I then have trouble because, like, the unabomber, you know, he bombed the federal building and a bunch of fucking kids died. Which in his, which in his review, he says he doesn't condone killing it.
Starting point is 00:59:48 some people, and that's why he went a different route. Yes, that is why he went a different route. One guilty motherfucker. I did love... Look, leave it through an Italian, you know what I'm saying? Did I... So did I sell a little bit of fart coin to buy some Luigi coin? You bet your ass.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I had a moment where I was like, I bet someone made... Already there were fucking... And this guy, there was a... I guess the runner-up to the United CEO Healthcare Shooter Lookalike contest showed up at the scene of the crime to shill cash tag Luigi. Good for him. Aye, aye. We don't stand by that.
Starting point is 01:00:18 God almighty. Don't tarnish the good. You know I'm going crazy. People were DMing me being like, are you going crazy for this? And it's like, wait, are you, an Italian-American, strong jaw. I mean, pictures of- Such a strong jaw. Pictures all over the internet with his shirt off.
Starting point is 01:00:34 He's a surfer? Fuck yeah. I mean, the abs. I mean, yeah, I'm going crazy for it. He's getting barreled. He's getting barreled in my heart. Yeah, look at that. It's very.
Starting point is 01:00:47 26? That's how I, all this time, I'm like, wait, how old is he? And speaking of what we're talking about just in the beginning of the episode, I do worry that in just a couple days, when this comes out, it might be a completely different thing. You know, but as far as we know right now, he seems like quite a normal guy. Outside of this, like, these absent six months, he's got that like, it's like the lost weekend with John Lennon and Harry Nelson, which he had a someone posted, one of his friends post. posted a picture of him. It's very normal. G. Ben, it's hard to say his handle. But he posted a picture of the both of them on his Instagram. And he just wrote, he's not a monster. I can't put into words on how worried I am for you right now. They have the story all upside down. Whoa. See, now that's interesting. Isn't it? It's just like not your average, uh, there's usually a profile going along with the, um, with a high profile shooting. I mean, back pain will make a motherfucker do some crazy shit. I don't know if you've ever had back pain. I've been dealing with back pain for the last year probably and it can make you crazy. I don't, it's odd. I'm very curious
Starting point is 01:02:00 about these lost six months. He seems very normie. You know, in his taking pictures at the frat house had kind of the whole world at his fingertips. I mean, well educated, came from a good Family, handsome. Interested in coding and AI and all this stuff. I mean, he really could have gone down a different path. Again, that's why I keep harping on it speaks to... It speaks to what is broken in our system and how, yeah, I mean, a guy like this getting pushed to that brinket makes you wonder how many people out there crack in different ways. And they turn to drugs or they turn to alcohol or they turn to domestic abuse and all kinds of things.
Starting point is 01:02:46 that tear apart families and relationships. And this guy chose a different route. And so I'm saying there are so many other things that we just don't see and hear about that are a product of the very system that drove him to do what he did. Some people are pointing to drugs saying stuff about psychedelics and ayahuasca maybe.
Starting point is 01:03:06 I don't know. I do worry that they're going to assassinate him. Like the guy who killed Lee Harvey Oswald. Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, Jeffrey Epstein I mean, I really I hope that nothing like Why, because if he goes to trial
Starting point is 01:03:20 It'll be too Yeah, I don't know I feel like the ruling class Did you see him kind of yelling As they were taking out of the car Can we Google that? Here, I could probably find it Pull it up
Starting point is 01:03:31 As he was getting pulled out of the SUV And brought into It's hard to Understand exactly what he's saying But some people are speculating So I mean I can I was able to hear Unfortunately known dipshit
Starting point is 01:03:44 Beni Johnson was was tweeting about it but uh oh yeah here it is Luigi Mangione I believe what he says is the media is completely out of touch and it's an insult to the intelligence
Starting point is 01:03:56 of the American people play it it completely out of touch and insult the intelligence of the American people and their lived experience and their lived experience
Starting point is 01:04:09 yeah I mean I would agree with that it wouldn't surprise me if Elon Musk then used this as like yeah Yeah, the media is You are the media now Fucking shut the fuck up I don't think he touches it I don't think so either
Starting point is 01:04:23 And some were speculating that the reason I just cannot believe Trump was able to keep his mouth shut this whole time I know I find it interesting Someone floated the theory that The reason Elon Musk Is going around with his fucking kid Literally
Starting point is 01:04:38 Like on his head Is as a human shield And I wouldn't put it past him man. I wouldn't put it past him. He's walking around with this kid as a, hey, no assassin's going to shoot that child. Well, who knows, but maybe they're good enough shot. Is some stuff about Syria. He hasn't said anything. Maybe he hasn't figured out a, I don't know, maybe he hasn't figured out a good enough quip.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Well, that's the thing. People who try to say this is like the people who try to go against it and say this is, you know, the rambling. of freakish leftists get met with like what the hell's wrong with you you're you're showing who you really are if you uh if you are going to act as some kind of defense for yeah i just i just love that especially health care CEOs i really do love that people were turning on a ben Shapiro and matt walsh and oh dude the whole right wing media apparatus reading those comments is very cathartic have a question here's something do you think there's going to be copycats I think that it is very possible that there may be copycats, and I hope that if there are, they aren't sloppy. And what I mean by that is I hope they aren't using tactics.
Starting point is 01:05:56 If there were to be a copycat situation, I hope nobody's doing like a Timothy McVeigh Unabomber type thing where you're just going a shotgun approach. Because innocent people don't deserve to be killed or maimed. This is Ben Shapiro's video, a shocking targeted attack. and the left celebrates, and people were commenting, here's one, I work in a factory in a deep red state, my coworkers all voted for Trump and wear his merch. They were laughing at the incident. It's not just the left. And someone else. Why do you pick on the left? This is bipartisan. You are out of touch. Ben, you're a millionaire. You aren't a true blue collar conservative. You're a rich guy that tries to appeal to working class Republicans. You don't understand what poor people go through.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Yeah, I think, and I just have to say, when I'm talking about like the old Well, I'm talking about people whose net worths are like $500 million and above. Oh, this is the one you were talking about. If you look at that first reply with, but I just realized your entire entire business model requires that normal folk hate each other. There you go. I just realized your entire business model requires that does normal folk hate each other. Fucking, eh, right, man. Facts don't care about your feelings, Ben.
Starting point is 01:07:13 God, I've... You're alone on this, Ben. This just reaffirms your position and stance against the working class. That's the... I think the video itself has so many... Thousands of dislikes versus thumbs down versus thumbs up. I hope that, at the very least, we can get right-wing grifters to expose themselves as... Shills?
Starting point is 01:07:37 I mean, we already have. Like, we've known it for a long time. Yes, but obviously there is... this is obviously very illumining to some portion of their audience. Yeah, I really, that's what my hope, my hope is that what comes out of this is a newfound kind of unity among, among the majority of Americans and just people, is that realizing that a lot of the shit that's been fed to us
Starting point is 01:08:04 comes from people like Ben Shapiro who are in service of their political and corporate overlords, whose best interest involves keeping us occupied with stupid non-issue, well, not non-issue shit, but shit that has us pointing the finger, they're loving it. They love when people are getting worked up over fucking bathrooms and shit. Exactly. It's the culture war.
Starting point is 01:08:28 It's the culture war to distract from what we really ought to be focused on, which is the fact that one guy has, one guy has over like $360 billion. dollars. More than a billion would be enough to spend over 10 lifetimes. And when we talked about the Enron episode, which you can see on YouTube last week, it's a great episode. But the fact that Enron was the, we touched on it, the fact that it was the seventh most valuable company in the world in 2000 valued at $70 billion, that doesn't even crack like the top 50 today. It just speaks to how that window
Starting point is 01:09:08 has shifted so much. I remember when the wealthiest guy in the world had, it was like $90 billion, 10, 15 years ago. 90 billion doesn't even get you in the top 20. You're a loser. You're a fucking loser if you're only worth $90. It's fucking. It's
Starting point is 01:09:25 and where are we going to be in 10 years? At what point are we okay with one person possessing so much wealth, so much influence that they become completely untouchable. You can't say shit. And that's why Elon Musk and other people,
Starting point is 01:09:43 that's why they act the way that they do. He knows that he's completely untouchable. And even if, I'll just play your game. I thought he acted like that because he's the most divorced guy in the world. Most divorced? Yeah. Well, there is that.
Starting point is 01:09:55 But even if you were to say, I'm totally fine with this guy having $360 billion. Okay, fine. What about a trillion? Are you cool with that? Well, they're saying he's on pace to become the first trillionaire. He is.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Yeah. He's on pace to become the first trillionaire. If he becomes a trillionaire and someone doesn't kill him, we are useless. Yeah, we're totally, I don't even, I just don't give a shit anymore. These are anti-social freaks. Any other species would, like, root this out of their. They'd be like, this is bad for our collective species. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:10:24 But we lionize these people and say, like, this is good. This is not only good, it's an example of what. And if you work hard enough, you might be able to become one of these antisocial freaks. we should snuff them out or at least clip their nuts man but yes going back I do hope there's that I do hope at some point people start
Starting point is 01:10:46 you know we our our Instagram reposted the because there was I think it was in the wake of the election there was that that woman wrote the article which everyone was dunking on don't replace the culture war with the class war oh yeah but then you know someone put the little meme face guy crying and please bro please don't worry
Starting point is 01:11:02 or bro, please don't worry about why you pay more in taxes than billionaires. Worry about the war on Christmas and the trans agenda. Please, bro. Stay distracted, bro. Yeah, I love that one. God, that's good. And it would be nice if people got, you know, more clear-eyed about what is, who is really your enemy and it's not, uh, it's not other poor people.
Starting point is 01:11:20 I'll tell you that much. It's like classic thing of like, uh, people, people defending billionaires because they think it's going to be them one day. Yeah. And that's fine. You can think that. I believe in you. I think that I would, I strive to be, to be wealthy so that I can enjoy my life and take care
Starting point is 01:11:39 of the people that I love. I don't strive to be worth, I don't even think of it as, is within the realm of possibility to hit like the billion dollar mark. I just want enough to live comfortably and, yeah, take care of my people and enjoy myself. and I think something's wrong with you if you like fucking Jeff Bezos has a yacht
Starting point is 01:12:03 that's just the support yacht for his main yacht he's got a mega yacht whose only purpose is to follow around the big one, the other one and loaded with supplies just toilet paper I mean dude a perfect example is the way
Starting point is 01:12:20 we talked about yesterday but it's worth talking about here you basically described the way Palmer Lucky responded to me. I basically, Palmer Lucky in the wake of this who is the Oculus guy who is now basically just like a huge defense contractor basically
Starting point is 01:12:39 just sells drones to the government and he tweeted about how in the wake of all this oh yeah, go up. He said, I hope the New York City assassination gives certain people a hint as to why concern about mass reporting on the location of specific
Starting point is 01:12:55 private jets is, is in fact reasonable rather than hysterical, commenting on how it's not that bad for these guys to want to keep it private where their jets are going and everything. And I, as a joke, I just, because these guys should not even see my shit.
Starting point is 01:13:11 I retweeted, I said, man, if I was a rich guy right now, I would be shuttered my ass up. And he responded, and he said, that mindset is at least, is at least part of why you'll never get there. And it's like, my guy, we don't, None of us strive to be there.
Starting point is 01:13:27 And yes, you have a broken mindset. You're an antisocial freak. Yeah, I... And I obviously retweeted that and said it, and you'll never be happy. You can accumulate all the wealth you want, but you'll never outrun the nagging sense that you have too much while so many have so little.
Starting point is 01:13:41 You can buy a government to protect you from those that hate you, but you'll never be free from their scorned. You know. Yeah. And then he wrote, I don't know, man. I'm pretty heck and happy. But I think... I like that he was so quick to be like, oh, that attitude is exactly why he'll never be rich.
Starting point is 01:14:01 No, it's just, it's, it's, um, if anything, your stance was practical. It was just like, dude, if I were rich, I'd be shutting my ass up right now. And not being like, well, this is why Elon Musk doesn't want his jet information published. Yeah, no shit. It's what, yeah, of course that's why he doesn't want his, right? That's why he said it's dangerous for him. Yeah, because people don't like the fact. that there's a guy flying around worth that fucking much money
Starting point is 01:14:29 because it sucks because maybe they just got denied for their, who knows, man, their health insurance. It's also just a perfect example of how he views the world works for him, right? Even in the wake of a CEO being slain, he's like, um, hello, government, we might need to shut down anybody who's talking about our jets. Yeah, suck my dick to everybody.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Not everybody. The bad guys, the bad guys. The bad guys can suck me off But I'm not gonna come I'm just gonna make you keep on going You're just gonna keep on sucking Just like the Christmas toad You just suck until I say stop
Starting point is 01:15:04 But I'm not gonna say stop He's gonna have to keep going Do I enjoy it? I don't know Do you? I close my eyes Maybe it feels good I don't know What am I talking about right now? That kind of reminds me of I want to talk
Starting point is 01:15:18 I want to tell you about something in the In the bonus? Yeah By the way, guys, because we should end it here. Yeah, we've just been... We're going to be talking about the other big thing that I wanted to talk about in the main episode, but it was just too much. This was obviously the story.
Starting point is 01:15:32 But honestly, by Thursday, it probably won't be. The drones, man. Why are they talking about the Wii? I'm going all up in the drone business shit. I'm going to be talking... We're going to be talking about the drones in New Jersey. These Italian drones. You can hear them as they zip by going, hey!
Starting point is 01:15:51 my my big takeaway from all this is i think if you're not italian maybe you should just stay out of this yeah you know what i mean maybe sit down and yeah why don't you sit down and and uh sit your jewish ass down and listen what because people say like i sat my white ass down and listen oh yeah why jewish because you're jewish oh me yeah oh yeah no i am i'm listening i'm listening i'm trying to learn i didn't know you were talking to me i thought you were talking to the people i was like there's buddy there ain't that many we don't have that many Jew listeners I don't know hey Jews out there
Starting point is 01:16:26 sound off in the comments comment hi yeah comment C-H-A-I hi okay so Greek listeners Italian listeners we're all cousins stand back and standby stand back stand by stand by
Starting point is 01:16:39 comment on the bonus and folks stay vigilant out there okay stay vigilant keep your head on a swivel you know There's never more... Don't do anything stupid.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Just be careful, be smart, and best wishes to all, except for the cock suckers. You know who I... Sorry, we do have to end, but you know who I can't wait till we hear from? Who? That lady who, you know, when you watched the video? When I watched what video? When you watched the video of him gunning down the... Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:08 There's that lady who sings like... Can you come out? Can you talk? Yeah, can you get in? Where is she? Well, I need to know what was going on. Also, beautiful restraint from my boy, Luigi. What, taking the time? Well, no, not getting an innocent stuck in the crossfire.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Oh, yeah, of course. Get out of here, lady. These bullets are for one. He probably said, hey, how you doing? Brian Thompson. He said, hey, how you doing? That is the problem. His Italianist did get him in the end.
Starting point is 01:17:33 He could not help but flirt with the... The teller at the Donald. We cannot help it. Just as Andrew Cuomo said the great Andrew Cuomo said, I'm not perverted. I'm Italian. That's great. Yeah, that is right.
Starting point is 01:17:48 He did say that. You didn't say that. We were born like this. Yeah. Anyway, folks, we'll see you next week. Thanks for watching.

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