The Ben and Emil Show - BAES 79: What's with all the Quantum computing hype?

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So Google what done created this qualum chip. Not any kind of chip. It sure ain't no potato chip. I'll tell you that much. It would take El Capitan, the world's largest supercomputer, 10 to the 10 years to solve. Do you think El Capitan feels bad? It's cucked.
Starting point is 00:00:16 It's sitting in a digital cuck chair just watching Willow absolutely plow through this math problem in five minutes. I tried to listen to it, and I kept just rewind and be like, wait, what? Yeah. Every five, I mean, okay, but what happens? Isn't they get more cupids? Let me sell it to the public like this. All right, check it up. Everybody likes cigarettes, right?
Starting point is 00:00:35 We changed the molecular levels of tobacco. You can now rip as many darts as you want. And in fact, it makes you hotter. I mean, they already do, but it makes you hotter. I'm looking at a time with me. Tell me what's going on. Tell me what's going on. So listen a lot.
Starting point is 00:01:00 me tell me what's going on tell me what's going on on mm-hmm that might get us copyright just humming? Yeah, you're right, God, with how fickle these things are these days.
Starting point is 00:01:22 You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't even hum a song, they say, these jerks. They really are jerks, aren't they? I was singing the, I was humming the Christmas Toad song. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:01:35 I think if you sang it, it would be protected by parody, but because it's just the tune. Yeah, Christmas Toad, oh Christmas Toad. Yeah. In case you missed it, Christmas Toad merch is available. I should have been wearing one. Ah, whatever. And there he is right there. My mom also got me a little ornament.
Starting point is 00:01:56 She got you a Christmas Toad ornament. Yeah, a Christmas Toad ornament. It's in between. Apparently, this little plushy is called something. It's called like a... A toad tree. No, but it's got like a... Someone left a comment saying it's got a name or something.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I don't know what the heck is going on. Wow, really riveting. Yeah. Who knows? But, hey, exciting news for... If you're a Spotify user out there, if you're a Spotify listener... Oh, by the way, welcome to the show. We've got a great episode for you today.
Starting point is 00:02:26 How rude of you? We're going to be talking... I'm so sorry. I didn't acknowledge you guys. guys we've got a great episode we're going to be talking talking about quantum stuff and this ain't your mama's quantum all right this isn't the marvel cinematic universe where antmen where antmen goes and in battles uncleman and wasp lady and wasp lady and uh speederman which we'd love to see evangeline lily getting work you know man she's what a
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Starting point is 00:06:21 I'm caressing the gun under my desk. Jeez. Oh, gosh. So, hey, a lot of stuff going on. Hey, pal. A lot of stuff going on. Google done, depending on who you ask, they might have just proved that there's a multiverse.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I don't think they did. I don't think that they did. Also, quick apology to everyone, editor's note. I did read a fake tweet last week, and I'm sorry about that. What fake tweet? There was the Elon Musk tweet I read about the United Healthcare thing
Starting point is 00:06:56 Oh was it the thing about CEOs are essential or something It was about him talking about how he's just like doing What any prudent CEO should do I got duped There's a lot of shit flying around And I apologize for that And we will be going live later today And I'll be self-flagellating
Starting point is 00:07:11 To make it up to you I saw those comments And I thought that it was naturally Because since I'm the one I was getting duped on Twitter No, they said Emil read the wrong. Oh, well. Ha ha, ha, what an idiot. God, that's embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Man, I'm so sorry on his behalf, guys. Oh, geez. Tune in live if you want to see me. Sepaku? Self-flagellate. Yeah. Anyway. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:07:39 So Google, what done created this quantum chip? Not any kind of chip. It sure ain't no potato chip. I'll tell you that much. Can I ask if you understand what quantum computer. computing is. I kind of do. Yes. Don't look at the screen. Tell me. Well, okay. Don't look at the screen.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Huh? What? No, no, just... Don't look at the screen. Everybody shut up for a minute. Try to tell me what... So what is... No, no. Try to tell me what quantum computing. Well, okay. Before you... Before we talk about quantum computing, we have to understand what regular computing is, right? Okay. This is my understanding of it. Because, you know, I've read about the stuff before. Because here's... Go ahead. The Wall Street Journal did a thing about this.
Starting point is 00:08:17 They did, like, a whole series of... It was like a podcast on quantum computing and how they're getting closer and stuff. And so I was like- Don't listen to that. Listen to this instead. I mean, well, you won't want, I tried to listen to it. And I kept just rewind and be like, wait, what? Yeah. Every five-s, okay, but what happens if they get more qubits? Yeah. How do they make? Because then, okay, so I'm.
Starting point is 00:08:41 And even on this, I'm like, what are you talking about? I watched the presentation of the Google absolute sweetheart of a nerd. goes up there and you can tell that he's gotten media training because he's using whoever does the media training for Google and for Apple when they do all these things. Yeah, it's always just like, use your hands, just use your hands. And he goes up there and I'm like, oh, okay, he's going to explain it to me in English, like I'm five. And he goes up and he just starts using all this
Starting point is 00:09:06 jargon. I'm like, I can't pause. I would have to learn the definition of like 18 different words before, yeah. I also watched the, there was like a little six minute video from like inside the Google quantum computing lab or whatever. Yeah. And there's interviewing all these dickheads who work in there.
Starting point is 00:09:27 It's just like, what the fuck are you talking about? I know. And then I was trying to Google like, what's the difference between a quantum chip versus a quantum computer? And all I get is, what the difference between a quantum computer and a regular computer? I'm like, no, I want to know the difference between the fucking chip and the computer. I still don't know. Apparently the chip is where it's all happening.
Starting point is 00:09:49 They have to build all that shit around it because it creates so much heat and stuff. They've got to have all these ridiculous refrigerators. Yeah. So, okay. My understanding is normally a normal computer, like the ones that we've got in our phones, like your laptop there, they are, they use bits. Zero's and ones. So everything that gets fed into and spat out of your computer is all transferred into the binary. code language that a computer understands right sure it's all hey this color can be translated to whatever
Starting point is 00:10:23 version of zeros and ones and that's all little tiny little pieces of silicon on millions of them on on chips right and with quantum computing so so in in that everything is either a zero or a one right zero or a one quantum computing with quantum computing it could be anything it could be a zero and one at the same time. Yes. Called a super position. Instead of... What the fuck's that mean?
Starting point is 00:10:49 Instead of... You're fucking nerd. When you think about supercomputers, right? I never do. I want to be clear. Same. I never think about that. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:57 There's a fucking website called top 500.org. And it's just... Let's go. I want to show you guys this real fast. Top 500.org. It's published twice a year. And it's just a list of the top 500 supercomputers. and the one that just was published on November 18th,
Starting point is 00:11:18 the 64th edition of the Top 500 reveals that the biggest supercomputer right now is called El Capitan. And it's based in the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California. It is the most powerful system on the list with an HPL score. You want to guess what that stands for? Hot Pussy Liquor. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's childish. High processing language. I don't know. Who actually knows? Nobody knows. And it's a... Well, don't tell me to guess and then not give me the... Well, I thought we'd have fun trying to guess what it stands for together.
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Starting point is 00:13:57 Well, either way, that H-P-L score is pretty high at 1.72 exophlops. 1.742 exophlops per second. I googled when an exof-flop is, and it's one of those definitions where it refers to another one exoflop is actually one pita flop and it's like okay thanks that doesn't tell me you a fucking thing
Starting point is 00:14:17 an HPL score is a measurement of a computer's performance in solving a dense system of linear it stands for high performance linpack wow wasn't I close didn't I say something yeah high performance language or something I said a hard pussy licker or something
Starting point is 00:14:32 can we talk about that it's got 11 million combined CPU and GPU cores and it's just it's massive and it's used for it's taking every fiber of my being to not make the snoring sound yeah well it's used to advance
Starting point is 00:14:51 this is kind of neat it's used to advance nuclear weapons science and scientific discovery its function is high performance computing for advanced simulations related to nuclear stockpile management including material discovery high energy density physics and weapon design so you got this this giant massive computer right and this google willow chip just solved
Starting point is 00:15:16 this math thing that would take that supercomputer longer 10 septillion years yeah longer more years than than the age of the universe which they like broke their own record the first time they did this they took another problem that was similar which would have taken about 10,000 years. What problem was it? Racism? And... They took racism and they... It was a mathematical problem. Two plus two. But they did it in three minutes.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Wow. With their ridiculous little computer. That's what... If I worked at Google, I would go to the quantum computing thing and say, look, you're ridiculous little computer. Wait, what? You would go to the quantum computer and say... To the lab. Oh, oh, yeah. Dorks.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah. We're on something real. We're an ad computer. company. We sell ads, you morons. Yeah. How can we make these ads? Yeah, that's what they're going are we going to make these ads more efficient. Uh, so, and as it turns out, because I was a little confused, I was like, so what's the math problem? And it's not, that's, it's all so confusing. You're not going to be able to figure it out. It's not necessarily a math problem. It's like a benchmark test that they show basically all you got to know is what that stat is, that whatever this benchmark is that it achieved, it would take El Capitan, the world's,
Starting point is 00:16:37 largest supercomputer 10 to the 10 years to solve. Do you think El Capitan feels bad? Yeah, it's cucked. It's sitting in a digital cuck chair just watching Willow absolutely plow through this math problem in five minutes.
Starting point is 00:16:53 And he's still trying to work. And he's just going, oh, this would take me 10 to the 10 years to solve. Oh, this is embarrassing. They're sitting there with his zeros and ones? Yeah. I've only got zeros
Starting point is 00:17:07 I'm binary. Well, that's the thing. It's true to the culture. Google's Willow, non-binary. Honestly, binary's out. Yeah, it's out. Non-binary is in. So what that means is quantum is non-binary. Quantum computer uses
Starting point is 00:17:23 ones and zeros, but it puts them in a quantum bit instead of a little silicon bit, and they're called cubits. And I still don't understand how that exists in physical space, but from from okay so i'm going to try this cubits exist in superposition meaning they exist as zeros and ones simultaneously they it's the probability of being a zero or a one or or fucking
Starting point is 00:17:53 both i don't know uh the way the way i saw it being explained is think of a normal road with cars going both ways just like a normal street um with quantum That would be like a normal computer. What's your normal street look like? You know, cars going, beep, beep, tuttoot, ha, ha. If you look to the left and the right, what do you see, though? Other cars. Well, that's still, you know, they're, it's just cars.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I don't know. Oh, you don't see any. It's a freeway, brother. It's a freeway. That's a nice house. Cars going one way, cars going the other way. You got some billboards and check that out, strip club right there. And with quantum, it's cars going in all directions.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Up, down, sideways, left, right, back and forth. That sounds like a pretty careful. road. I don't want to drive on that shit. No, it's also apparently... Let alone drunk. Proned to making mistakes because of all this... That's the thing. These little shits are incredibly sensitive.
Starting point is 00:18:48 They have to be kept super cold and they can't be disturbed. You can't yell at them. Sounds like my ex-wife. I mean, Jesus Christ. That's why she's your ex. Yeah. But yeah, they got to be kept near absolute zero temperature.
Starting point is 00:19:04 they can't they are extremely susceptible to sound vibration you name it that enables them to stay in superposition because if any of those things are disturbed they become knocked out of superposition which causes errors which is the big problem up until now was the big problem with quantum computing is they weren't able to stabilize all of the errors that come out of this process. And the way Google figured it out was, oh, if we add more qubits, those errors start to diminish because the qubits like rely on each other, I guess. And like kind of, if one of them's fucking up, they're like, yo, yo, sober up. Yo, chill out, dude, you're being crazy. Hey, drink some water, dude. And then that cubits like, oh, so sorry. I don't know what I was
Starting point is 00:19:56 thinking, man. And then the other cubits come in and go, it's all right, man, just shape up. But then one other guys, you know, barfing in the toilet in the little chip. And they're over there, like, holding her hair back. And then they're all kind of feeding off of each other. And then the error is just kind of... Right. But so this willow chip is still at an incredibly low amount of cubits. It's 105. Which is nothing.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Yeah. It's enough to do your dumb little math problem. Mm-hmm. But because the way, you know, they obviously want... a big story around this. They want the headlines. They want the multiverse and we've figured out all this stuff. And people were talking, oh, I guess your bitcoins useless now because it can... Hack it. Yeah, with quantum computing, you can render regular encryption useless. That would take, I think, somewhere between the tune of 8 to 10 million qubits or something
Starting point is 00:20:59 like that. It's so far from... Yeah. And even then, if we reached the point where a quantum computer could hack like Bitcoin, you got other problems. That means it's able to hack banking. It's able to national security shit. The fact, it is so funny that these people looking for anything to tear down Bitcoin are like, oh, guess what? Now your Bitcoin's trouble. Really makes you wonder why we're even doing it? Quantum computing? Yeah. I'm glad you asked, my friend. Yeah. Because as it turns out, there is, there are some practical use cases for this shit.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Hacking your Bitcoin. Hacking your Bitcoin. Pharmaceuticals. What quantum computing is, from my understanding, what it's good for is sorting through vast oceans of data, right? Of data. Do you call it data or data? I'm not telling you. Say it.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Come on. No, it's a personal question. I'm not going to answer it. Because you know if you said data, I'm going to say mama. As always. but so so quantum computers are good for sorting through tons of data developing new technologies drugs in particular we love new drug give me give me some drugs man god give me what i want these quantum computers to develop is a cancer-free problem-free actually healthy for you
Starting point is 00:22:18 form of nicotine give me some cigarettes the quantum computers yes that is the utopia that quantum computers will achieve. And if I were, if I were, they should have, they should get a, uh, they should get like a good frontman to sell this shit instead of the nerd at Google. I'm like, it's, let me sell it to the public like this. All right, check it out. Everybody liked cigarettes, right? We changed, we changed the molecular levels of tobacco.
Starting point is 00:22:47 You can now rip as many darts as you want. And in fact, it makes you hotter. I mean, they already do, but it makes you hotter. It makes your heart, like, just everything's good. Sugar's good for you. I mean, it is, but I just, that would be sad. I have been consuming so much sugar. I need to chill out.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Sugar's good for you. So sugar's good for you now. Cigarettes are good for you. Everything that was bad before quantum computing has made better and good for you. So whereas, whereas, uh, whereas, Classical computer. I love that they call them classical computers. Like, that shit's classical.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Dude, take it easy on my classical computer. I got one right underneath my feet. I'm stomping on it right now. I can't wait to get rid of this thing. So classical computers are deterministic, right? Losers. They rely on tons of computations to determine a specific singular outcome. Like, hey, you know, give it all this data and it goes,
Starting point is 00:23:54 okay, here is your singular outcome, right? But quantum computing is probabilistic meaning it'll find the most likely solution.
Starting point is 00:24:07 So... It's like using chat GPT. It is. It's kind of like that. It's like, I think this is what it is. I was reading...
Starting point is 00:24:14 Fucking moron. IBM... It's really funny because IBM has been talking about and doing quantum and AI shit. And they're talking shit
Starting point is 00:24:22 on this being like, nah. We've been doing it for longer. You guys ain't hot shit. Yeah. But they, man, they miss the boat. They're valued at a paltry $200 billion while Google's cresting $2 trillion these days. Because they know what, you know, they know when they solve a little math problem, they go, tell everyone we confirm the multiverse is real and that quantum computing is here.
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Starting point is 00:26:22 bays to upgrade your selling today. Shopify.com slash base. Well, so IBM has this great explainer that I was pouring over, and they said a good way to think about that with the whole deterministic and probabilistic is, and a use case, great use cases. Today, if scientists wanted to know
Starting point is 00:26:46 how a molecule will behave, say they're working on a drug or treatment or something, they synthesize the molecule, they experiment with it in the real world, and then if they want to make a slight tweak, like, okay, what happens if we take away an electron or whatever the fuck? They've got to synthesize it again, they've got to experiment with it in the real world, and on and on and on. That's obviously very time-consuming. It's very expensive. And computers that we have now can't simulate that because they don't have the working memory to handle all the possible permutations and iterations of these little molecules and all
Starting point is 00:27:22 that shit. It would take years and decades, however long. But so quantum computers can create multidimensional computational computational spaces that behave just like the molecules do in nature. Don't say that to me. Like, I'm supposed to know what that means. It's basically a simulation. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:43 It's basically to be able to run a ton of, very specific tests that would take a very long time very quickly yeah uh and i guess an important thing to note is that they're not meant to nor will they likely replace classical computers because they're just not practical for certain things they also don't have any memory also you got to lug around a goddamn refrigerator with yeah that's the thing so if you've seen also if you're wondering what a quantum
Starting point is 00:28:13 computer looks like they look very space age futuristic. I don't even fucking know. And the majority of it, all the pipes and like cords and shit, that's all the cooling mechanism to keep it all. Yeah, that's what I said. The chip is really the thing that's doing the work. The rest is just like keeping it cool. Chill, chill. We gotta get our hands on one of these things. Dude, I know. I want to destroy one. I would love to destroy one. This stuff, you know, it's, did you ever, it was one of the first podcast, I think. It was the Ricky Jervais show. This was, I'm talking like, 2005 or something.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Whoa. Or like, maybe I'm wrong. Google it. The Ricky Jervais show podcast. Holy shit. 1998 to 2005. Well, that was when it was on the radio.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Yeah. But they basically, it was him, Stephen Merchant, and have you ever interacted with the show at all? No, but it's that dumb guy that they then made the travel show for, right?
Starting point is 00:29:11 Carl Pilkington. Yeah, yeah. Well, that was the funny thing. You listen. When you listen back, And the whole conceit was them, basically, him saying things that they felt were outlandish and them laughing their heads off. And I think he's just not, he's not great at articulating himself, but I think his ideas are somewhat realistic. It's not as ridiculous as they make it out to be.
Starting point is 00:29:35 But anyway, there's a whole bunch of, he would always have these things about tech. And it was kind of funny at the time, you'd laugh because he'd be like, I think with tech they should just stop. Like, I think, I think we've got enough. And they were like, what do you mean? But he was basically saying, like, I don't know what the value add of all of this tech stuff is to keep on going and going. And sometimes, in recent years, I'm like, you know what? I kind of feel like Carl Pilkington, where I'm just like, do we need a fucking quantum computer? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Do we need to run a million tests? I'm going to say, yes, we do. Maybe we don't need to cure cancer. Oh, well, we already have a cure for cancer, but the CIA is keeping it. Do you think that's true? You know, I don't know, man. I think that there's something to be said for the influence of the pharmaceutical industry, keeping certain things. You know, they suppress our medicine so they can feed us their cures or sell us their cures type thing.
Starting point is 00:30:39 We're in the age now where everything that was once a conspiracy is just little by little turning out to be true. Well, that's because the CIA slowly declassifies their documents and you go, you guys, we're doing that. What's you doing, man, golly. Well, but that makes me feel like that's where it's like, you know, what if they just put effort into being like, you know what? We're going to make sure they can't fucking pollute your water and you're not drinking microplastics anymore. That's where I struggle, because it's like, okay, so many of these conspiracies require you to have conflicting truths at the same time. Like, okay, if they're trying to depopulate us, then why are they ban? Like, shouldn't they be encouraging us to smoke cigarettes?
Starting point is 00:31:25 Shouldn't they be encouraging a bunch of other shit that's destructive to your health? When I, I don't know. Who's trying to depopulate us? I don't know, fucking deep state. I don't know. See, that's the thing as I don't even know anymore When they're fucking people When they're spraying like the fucking chem trails, right?
Starting point is 00:31:45 Oh, they're spraying chem trails They're spraying chemicals all over the population You do realize that those rich and powerful people live Under the same sky that we do, right? Yeah, but that's such a weird example Because just as we're saying, and as we talked last week about like they are poisoning water supplies Where like even rich people have to drink water.
Starting point is 00:32:06 yeah yeah that's yeah that's why some of these people are just beyond there's always going to be a workaround there's always going to be an explanation but do i think that there's a cure for cancer out there no but there might be there might be as the great conier west said what did he say magic johnson still alive all the broke motherfuckers just passed away that's a great point you tend to forget that Magic Johnson had full-blown AIDS, huh? Yeah, but I guess at that, I don't fucking know. I'm not, I don't want to go down this. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Anyway, so they got to keep these computers cold, right? They're going to keep them real cold. So you were going to tell me why, you were going to tell me why we need quantum computing. I think that we are on the cusp of, of technology really ushering in a lot of, a lot of really good. things for humanity. Beyond the things, the likes of like the dopamine hits of TikTok and social media. I think that if... What would you say is a good thing that tech has ushered in?
Starting point is 00:33:15 In the comment section, dude. No, no, come on. What would I say a good thing that technology has ushered in? Information in the past 20 years. Information being at our fingertips whereby anybody with the willingness or means can educate themselves on any topic regardless of... social status. I would agree at the in that moment I'd be like, yes, this is a huge
Starting point is 00:33:40 breakthrough. People are going to have all the information at their fingertips. Yeah. But I would say that people are dumber than ever. Oh. Yeah. Truly. I think it's... But how do you measure dumb? Go fucking talk to somebody.
Starting point is 00:33:59 That's very true. I mean, I, I, the example that comes to my mind is Marjorie Taylor Green. Just one of the dumbest pieces of shit and she's in a position of power. Or Donald Trump. All these people. I would say though that... But I do think that is a... I think that's a good
Starting point is 00:34:20 goal and not a bad thing to get more people, more information. And I don't know if that's the direct result of people being dumber or what, but... But yeah, that is a good one. I just think a lot of times when people package these tech things of like, look what we've done. And it's like... made it so we can deliver food easier? I mean, this, my, my, my scalp cream, my foam, that's a nice innovation. Ozempic is proving to be a really, really nice one.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Give that one some time. And that's, uh, that's a big one. That one, it's saving lives, you know, there's, there's all sorts of, um, there are, I mean, don't get me wrong. I think that one's a ticking time bomb, but I'm not a, I'm not a blind optimist. I am a cautious optimist. And a skeptic, a natural skeptic. And I think that they're, I'm trying to envision how like, I'm talking like the last 20 years. Because even we, for example, when the polio vaccine come out? 50s. Yeah, something like that. 30s. We now have people being like, don't take the polio vaccine. Yeah. Because it's going to make your son stupid. Right. You got to measure it
Starting point is 00:35:33 by you got to add and you got a, what's the thing? The overall, is it a net good or a net bad? I think it's a net good technology. I know exactly where I'm going to be. Tech's a broad thing. I'm not saying like, it's a guy thing too. It's not a broad thing. Every tech thing is bad.
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Starting point is 00:38:25 Get on it now. Check the link in the description. Thank you. Just saying what we've done in the past 20 years is I'm like, what the fuck did we do to ourselves? I fully agree because I know what you're talking about. You're talking about ads in your face all the time. People unhappy at historic levels. People feeling isolated and lonely and not knowing how to fucking do things.
Starting point is 00:38:47 And yeah. I think we have definitely overshot and there needs to be some corrections. access to information communication you know makes it that's one that's a double-edged sword do you like being able to be in contact you know we should have stopped what email as soon as we sent the first email we should have been like we did it yeah it's done remember telegrams ridiculous we're never doing you can just do it right here you had to say stop at the end of every sentence yeah you can send an email now yeah we did it we're good uh efficiency learning Oh, efficiency?
Starting point is 00:39:22 Privacy. Environmental effects. That's a negative one. Misinformation one, a negative one. Automation is kind of a good, bad. It's a mixed bag. You know, you go trick-or-treating on Halloween. Sometimes you get some good and plenny's. Do you like those little licorice candies?
Starting point is 00:39:38 I don't know. Are you a fucking sicko? Maybe you like them. I like them. You know what I would do if I was president? What? To get all this under control. What?
Starting point is 00:39:45 Every... You can have all the tech you want. Yeah. But it's only... it's desktops only we're going back you can't take it with you you want to log on to the
Starting point is 00:39:56 worldwide web have that you can have TikTok you can have DoorDash anything you want from desktop though I'm gonna as your vice president I'm gonna fully support this and I'm also gonna say we must shut off the internet
Starting point is 00:40:07 at 10 p.m. every night a huge yeah everybody must have family time your desktop does shut off at 10 p.m. every night doesn't matter what you're in the middle of could be important oh sorry jivk have a VPN
Starting point is 00:40:20 Well, no, you don't because we got rid of those. Yeah. And I will be in Dallas, Texas, driving in a convertible if you would like to come out and say hi to me and my wife. Jackie O'Ness's. Okay, so back to the cubits. I didn't know this, but apparently there are a few different ways to do qubits. So, like, there's this company called IonQ, and they have charged atoms caught an electromagnet. electromagnetic traps as cubits.
Starting point is 00:40:53 That's how they're doing it. There's another company called Psy Quantum that's using particles of light as cubits so they're more resilient to physical stimuli like vibrations and whatnot. There's another one called quantum brilliance that are using diamonds to stabilize cubits allowing them to exist at room temperature.
Starting point is 00:41:13 So, boy, they. I have one thing to say about this. What? Sure they are. Sure. The diamonds are in them. It's using photons. It's using like, sure, whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Well, so there's a, just speaking of that, it's a very, very, very, it's the hottest thing in stocks right now. So many of these stocks are up 10x over the last couple months. They probably first confirmed. And I would just say if you're out there and you're thinking about buying some of these stocks, just please don't. Or if you are, just be real fast, real nimble and play with very little money. Dump your kids school fund in it.
Starting point is 00:41:46 into uh because some of these are sporting multi-billion dollar valuations on like 50,000 in revenues it's insane these are still very well because they're betting on the future dude I know but this is like how it always works this is this is a classic case of like a big headline and then there being um a group of companies that are relevant to the headline just to speak to how ridiculous it is that one company that I was pissed off about quantum co they're They're not even quantum competing. Exactly. And the stock is going because it's got quantum.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Which is great. They're probably like, this is going to be a mess. It's when we have to explain to people, no, we just do tape storage. That's what they fucking do. Tape storage. We thought quantum was a cool name. Yeah. Quantum Corporation.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Anyway. Dude, come on. That's fun, though. They're building qubits out of diamonds. That's fun. That is pretty cool. Or trapping them in a little electromagnet. Electromagnetic prison.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Don't invest in any company that's trapping the cubits. Let the qubits be free, build a bit of diamonds. But so while it is like we are, it's just going to accelerate. It's going to get crazier from here because, yeah, Google's got that 105-cubit computer or chip. China just developed a 504-cubit one. Yeah, you don't see them bragging about it. Amen, brother. I mean, they've got other things to brag about, like lifting a billion people out of poverty with their.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Wow, CCP is strong. Yeah, CCP is very strong. Xi Jinping, come on the pod. Yeah. God, I would love to have Xi Jinping on here. So what's... It's just like AI. It's another race.
Starting point is 00:43:28 It's the first to... The first to really develop this and make it so that it's a viable technology is going to wield a lot of power in a way that we don't really... I mean, we don't know the implications of it yet. Sure, we do. Your Bitcoin? Fucked. Bitcoin is full. But who's going to take it? Who? China? What are they going to do with it?
Starting point is 00:43:50 Yeah. Well, that's, I was reading about something. I mean, we have no idea what's going to happen, but the U.S. government is floating ideas of having a Bitcoin reserve and people talking about countries literally stealing each other's crypto. What did we do to ourselves? Why are we? I sold most of my fart coin. Why did we do this to ourselves? I know. We could have had a, we could have had a functioning economy. And we chose the route. But, but, I mean, even Deloitte released a, released a little thing about, you know, what does quantum computing mean for your Bitcoin? Yeah. And it's a whole long article about
Starting point is 00:44:28 how many Bitcoin are actually vulnerable at this time. It turns out a bit, at least a quarter of the Bitcoin could be vulnerable to quantum computing. See, I, I'm no expert. I don't know what the fuck to think on this. They, I read one tweet that says, actually, your Bitcoin is totally safe because by the time quantum computing comes out, it's, you know, is this guy Hartmut Nevin who's the leader of the Google AI quantum team? This is the other part that
Starting point is 00:44:55 we alluded to at the beginning. He said that the computational power of this willow chip could be a direct result of interactions across parallel dimensions. He's talking shit. He's talking shit. He said, this number exceeds known timescales in physics
Starting point is 00:45:14 and vastly exceeds the age of the universe. It lends credence to the notion that quantum computation occurs in many parallel universes in line with the idea that we live in a multiverse, a prediction first made by David Deutsch. So he's saying that this, the only way that this thing, well, not the only way is, this quantum computation must or may rely on help from parallel universes. I don't know if I buy that. I don't want it to be true. I want this to be the real one I mean that means there's
Starting point is 00:45:48 some nice realities out there that we're getting left out on there's ones where you and I both have huge tits where everyone has huge tits where everybody has huge tits everything's the same it's just huge tits all the way down
Starting point is 00:46:00 yeah oh man can you imagine bunk bonk bunk bunk my buddy was showing me it also means there's a lot of worse realities too so at least we got this one yeah just real fast caveat a friend of mine
Starting point is 00:46:13 Caveat theater. See you there. Yeah, New York City. Great luck. My buddy sent me a screenshot of a woman that he matched with on Hinge. And she had big boobs. No. She's self-proclaimed a little overweight.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Self-proclaimed a little overweight. One of her responses to one of the prompts was, my whole body feels like a tit. I just thought it was great. I would immediately just be like, man, you're funny. My whole body feels like a tit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Interesting. Squishy, you know. So anyway, all that's to say, it's pretty wild stuff. Don't panic yet. This show is kind of like a qubit show if you think about it. We're entangled. A lot of podcasts and shows, they'll be like a regular-ass two-way street, you know? This thing, we could be talking about something.
Starting point is 00:47:11 All of a sudden, we're talking about tits. Zip damn, zip. Yeah, the Ben and a Meal show. The only show where in the same episode, in the same point, we'll be talking about a woman's whole body feeling like a tit while we're talking about quantum computing. And that's what makes us the best in the biz.
Starting point is 00:47:30 So what is our conclusion? Buy lots of quantum computing. Yeah, oh yeah. Don't stop. Don't even look into what they do. If it just, honestly, if it has a cue in the name, get it. Yeah. But not a cue at the end, because that typically
Starting point is 00:47:42 means that it's going bankrupt um but yeah i i i'm excited for what's to come i hope that it's used there's no way that quantum computing is going to be used to the detriment of humanity there's no way it couldn't no it couldn't possibly happen and uh i look forward to it being i look forward to the potential of uh alzheimer's and um parkinson's and cancer and and impotence and male pattern baldness being solved in our lifetime. Metal pattern baldness. Wow. Not something that I'm afflicted with.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Do you think in our lifetime? Absolutely. Wow. I think that with the advances in artificial intelligence and quantum computing, and when those two intersect, we are going to see a lot of exciting advances happen quicker than we're going to be able to. And as much as we're still unable to kind of comprehend cell phones and what they do to our little monkey brains.
Starting point is 00:48:44 It's going to be fucking 10 to 20 times worse, I calculate with quantum computing. My takeaway, you nerds better hope my ass doesn't get in the White House because you'll never see a phone again,
Starting point is 00:48:54 right? Yeah. You want to use the internet? Get on a desktop. Yeah. And maybe it's... You also can't have a Xbox anymore or PlayStation.
Starting point is 00:49:02 No Xbox. You don't take away a video game? You want to play games? I built a jungle gym you could play on. How about Uno? Can we play Uno? Card games?
Starting point is 00:49:10 Fine. Yeah. You can play with people. You have to socialize your little freaks? Yeah. Speaking of artificial intelligence, thank God this just happened before we recorded, but Google just launched some new AI video and photo capabilities
Starting point is 00:49:27 that are truly staggeringly... This, I will say, unless you can actually use it, I don't... Like, they release Sora, and they let, like, 200 people come in, and then they were like, sorry, we're closing. the thing again. Also, this is the way it always goes. They talked about SORA, what was it, way back in March, February. And they released these things as of, okay, groundbreaking tech is here. We did it, guys. You can now create any kind of video you want. Here's what it looks like.
Starting point is 00:49:58 And then we go, okay, can we use it? And they're like, not yet. Yeah. And then they rolled it out. I tried to sign up. I was like, oh, great. I already paid for chat GPT. We try to get in this thing. Locked out. And Sam Altman's going like, guys, hang on. We're yeah i'm typing as fast as i can it's always just fucking we really oh guys we did it we we have a groundbreaking tech again that's the thing i think google is the uh uh what's the word not the underdog because they're fucking google but i think that they are going to be i think they're going to emerge victorious as the leaders yeah let's see quantum and a let's let's ask this um well wait let's scroll down and see the uh let's ask this thing to uh maybe generate us what the american
Starting point is 00:50:42 Revolutionary War looked like and watch it spit out spit out a bunch of Chinese guys fighting. Oh, because it's woke or whatever? No, it's just like... Yeah, it's broken. You've seen the show devs, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:00 By the way, folks, if you want a fun, fictionalized, limited series about quantum computing in the multiverse and stuff, do yourself a huge fucking favor and go watch devs. It was on FX and it's, man, it really fucks with your head. I mean, outside of a few stinkers, go watch some Alex Garland in general.
Starting point is 00:51:20 He's the guy who did it. Because I just rewatched Ex Machina. It's such a great movie. I mean, all his shit is so great. All his shit is really good. Although, man, he's got some stinkers. Yeah, he's got some stinky wings. So this is, these are some video examples of this VO, VEO2.
Starting point is 00:51:39 their high quality video generation capabilities. And if you, you know, normally we're, I'd like to think that we're all pretty good at spotting AI being fake or, you know, just it being AI generated. This is so, I can't even, to the audio listener, God, I wish you could see this. But it's so photo, it's so realistic, down to even the roots of this woman's hair
Starting point is 00:52:07 and the imperfections in her skin near her eyes. I say, let me use it then, bitch. Show me for real. It's fucking bananas. And this is not me saying it's good or bad. I'm just pointing out an objective truth that this has gone so far, so fast. Let's click through some of these. Here's an animated one.
Starting point is 00:52:30 It looks like Pixar. The way the hair on this kid, the lighting, the textures, it's... unbelievably good. This guy holding this beekeeper. Look how fucking good that is. The bees are kind of, the bees don't look that great, I will say. The bees, I mean, do you have to, that's not what bees look like. Sure, okay. That's, that's fair. Here's some flamingos. Look at the way, the fluid in the water. It's, oh my God. Okay, Ben's literally hard. Oh my God. I've been getting ads, by the way, on TikTok for some AI thing that lets you show what it would look like
Starting point is 00:53:09 if you were kissing your crush. Like, take a photo of yourself and a photo of your crush and it'll make an AI-generated video of you guys hugging and kissing. I'm like, that is bleak. And also I can't... Why aren't young people fucking more?
Starting point is 00:53:23 Because that shit, yeah. What did you do to them? I don't want to see me kissing, though. I don't want to... Wow, look at that. Look at the little imperfections on the glass. Folks, I... I mean...
Starting point is 00:53:37 I don't know what this is going to mean for the future of commercials, of filmmaking, of graphic design, but... I do. A lot of people won't have jobs. Yeah. I mean, I really... Look at this. I mean, some of these... Then they've got the image generator thing.
Starting point is 00:53:54 They've got a little squirrel here. And it's just bananas. You know, it's crazy what they're doing over there. And apparently none of these people have seen Terminator. So... Yeah. That looks fake. I mean, it's a hummingbird does a story.
Starting point is 00:54:12 All right. So, speaking of... I mean, good time to talk about the Open AI whistleblower. Yeah. Ben doesn't think it's a big deal. He thinks it's good. The guy got popped. I didn't say that at all.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Whoa. I did not say that. I just, I looked at the whistle that he, the proverbial whistle he was blowing did not seem as urgent as a, as a murder. would have you believe. Well, if you, if you haven't seen that, it is kind of a shame. The story has kind of gotten zero visibility, really. But this guy, he was young.
Starting point is 00:54:49 I think he's 26. Sashir Balaji, and apologies if I've mispronounce, but he was an open AI researcher. He worked there for four years in different capacities, ended up leaving. And then this fall in October, he reached out to the New York Times
Starting point is 00:55:06 and did this big, article blowing the whistle on them about how, uh, they're breaking copyright law. Yeah. Yeah. He said, uh, in his four years there, he was seeing firsthand that they were totally violating copyright law. And he was concerned, his bigger thing was that he was concerned for the future of the internet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Open AI, of course, responded and said like, we're not, we've got plenty of lawyers. We know what we're doing. We're not violating U.S. copyright law. Uh, and then yeah, he died in an apparent. suicide in November. But they most definitely are violating copyright law. Sure, of course. But I think that's what you think is not that big of a deal.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Yeah, I was expecting him to, when I was looking it up, I was like, oh, he's going to be talking about how they have like these nefarious plans to... But I do think that is very nefarious. And I think that this is the problem with AI. They've done a good job of being like, oh my God, the singularity and age. and all this stuff like what's it going to mean for us all but they basically have illegally built these platforms on the backs of creators journalists all of these people I mean just look at some of these platforms and you can you can describe if you say like uh put Arnold Schwarzenegger
Starting point is 00:56:33 the Terminator into it they're like oh sorry you can't do copyrighted or whatever but then if you describe and detail that thing, it just comes out. They're like, oh, surely you're talking about. Or fucking grox. It just violates it. He doesn't care. Right. So they've clearly just combed incredible amounts of data from all these people. Yeah. And these companies would not even be able to exist without violating these laws. I do think that's a massive deal. I mean, you're talking about, you know, Sam Altman is now worth tons of money, has a huge amount of power, allied with Microsoft, trying to create a monopoly on these powers. I just don't think that he was the first, nor the most prominent voice, to raise these concerns.
Starting point is 00:57:20 There have been the other whistleblowers from within the company, like... Was there other ones? Who were talking about this specific issue? Elias Setskiver left. But he wasn't talking about copyright stuff. He was talking about, it was, he was talking about big picture things. Right. They're not...
Starting point is 00:57:34 Which to me is even more of a concern than just... mere copyright law. His big picture. That's very difficult to prove. There are lawsuits right now, companies being like, you need to stop training on our data. Right. This is insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:48 And companies like AI have come out and been like, we're running out of data to train on. We need to just gobble up as much as we can to even make the next leaps and bounds we can. Yeah. If they get shut down, they're toast. I mean, Sam Altman's already in a precarious situation, right? Elon Musk is kind of at odds with him and now you see him kind of
Starting point is 00:58:12 trying to play to Trump a little bit Sam Altman and being, you know, wanted to get in his good graces. I mean, Elon Musk has become the most powerful man in the world. He's head and shoulders by far the most powerful man in the world. Yeah. It's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Out for Sam Altman. He's got a little house of cards. He's built that. He's got to keep going. Yeah. If a researcher who worked there for four years was planning to testify in some of these cases and stuff and actually get
Starting point is 00:58:45 some of these companies shut down, I don't know if that's a real possibility, but I do think there's a In that sense, I don't think... Real implications. I don't think that this guy was murdered. I think that perhaps he was goaded into his own self-destruction in that sense.
Starting point is 00:59:02 I'm sure that... But that's... I mean... You think he was murdered? I don't know. But the circumstances are very weird. Yeah. His parents released a thing. They tweet, they said, justice for Shashir. We are the parents of happy, smart, and brave young man, Sashir found dead in his apartment
Starting point is 00:59:19 on 1126, 2024. We are seeking to know complete truth. We need more answers. Sashir just went on vacation with his friends between 1116 and 1122. He was very happy when he spoke to family on 1122 at 7.15 p.m. and was excited about his trip. His time of death is a few hours after his last call with family. We don't understand within a few hours what happened does not align with his happy mood and return from vacation.
Starting point is 00:59:43 I'll just say that's unfortunately often the case with people who kill themselves. I'll just say it's been a weird year of... And that's not me defending fucking open AI, by the way. I can't believe I have to say that. It's been a weird year of suicidal... Yeah. Yeah. Whistleblowers.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Yeah. I I do think that part of it is because you know people go like whatever copyright law that sounds boring but it is
Starting point is 01:00:11 insane that these companies have been able to kind of like build these massive brands out of just stolen data that they're feeding these things and just having it regurgitate back to us
Starting point is 01:00:23 yeah stolen data stolen mama he got it in folks he got to I was worried he might not get to do it and I'm glad Also, it's not just Elon that's upset with OpenAAA. Meta and I forgot who else. I think it might be it might be co-signed by Elon Musk. They're putting in like a complaint or something, chiming in about Open AI trying to change their status from nonprofit to for-profit. And their reason was surprising. They said that it would set a dangerous precedent going forward that any company could then declare themselves a nonprofit and that. then at a time when it's convenient and most beneficial to them, they could change to a for-profit,
Starting point is 01:01:06 reaping all the benefits of a non-profit and simultaneously all the benefits of being for-profit. But that's all obviously just self-interested bullshit. I mean, yeah. When Elon Musk is going off about Sam Altman, it's because he's competing with him, not because he's genuinely concerned. From that lawsuit, he backed off on, there were leaks that came out where Elon Musk was talking about way back when when he was part of the company about how, like, we're always going to progress into a for-profit company. Yeah. What a cocksucker. What a just, God, I just, hmm. How do you, how do you think he's going to go, Elon Musk? If you had to make a prediction, the invisible timer on his head, if you believe in, what is that called? Predestination. Yeah, something, yeah, predestinates something. Fate.
Starting point is 01:01:51 I think maybe he tries to swallow a second barrel and his body can't. His body, his body rejects it. And he can't regurgensate it. I'm choking on a barrel. yeah boy man I wanted to get to this speaking of CEOs biting the dust the
Starting point is 01:02:07 the reaction to the Luigi man Joni has been just been great well it's just been wild I honestly thought that like it was
Starting point is 01:02:19 I thought it would be bad that I kind of thought the party would be over when he got caught if he got caught because yeah
Starting point is 01:02:29 I figured you know law enforcement enforcement and the government and media was going to be able to control the narrative, but they just cannot. Also, I did not think they counted on him being so goddamn hot. No. But, uh, but it is wild to see that, you know, there was a couple, who's that fucking piece of shit? Jesse Waters on Fox News, but, you know, he had his little fantasies. He was like, just wait till these, just wait till these inmates get a hold of him. You know what? I have one of the tweets. Um, and,
Starting point is 01:03:00 Oh, insinuating that they're going to sexually assault him? No, they love him in there. He's a people's hero. Well, they have footage of them from the jail. Oh, yelling out, yeah. Like, free Luigi. His conditions are terrible. Free this guy.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Luigi's conditions suck. Free Luigi's conditions suck. Free Luigi. This was just from a few hours ago, and here they are, 10 o'clock as prime. They said earlier today, tell Ashley Banfield that Luigi is watching at 10 o'clock. I mean, obviously, you know, that's just a hard roast at this point because they're not near Luigi in any way. Can I just ask the guys if they can hear me right now to answer yes or no very loud? Does Luigi have television in his single cell?
Starting point is 01:03:55 No way. Holy shit. Wow, wait, okay. So all these guys are watching this live. No, they're... Oh, he yelled it to them? Oh, oh, oh, and they cut it out. He's just close by, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Yeah, so he's going, hey, does Luigi have television in there? Yeah. Ah, wow. But it's just... I mean, here's another one. This one really surprised me. It's a... They're at some kind of nightclub in Boston.
Starting point is 01:04:27 and it's just and they got his mug shot up there and photos of him? This is what I was talking about when I was like it's just you know Twitter's going to do what Twitter does but it's weird to see stuff out in the world
Starting point is 01:04:40 where just like Normies are like yeah yeah yeah you can be a love you can be a love yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:04:51 because you know if the Trump if the The would-be Trump assassin looked like that. Because, you know, yeah, wow, they're going nuts. If the would-be- Trump- But I don't think it's just because he's hot. I think people genuinely have a disgust with, you know.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Yeah. With these people. There's been merch. Merch coming out with Deny, Defend, Depose, and then graffiti all over the place. There's walking tours you can do in New York. for the, uh... Jesus.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Like, this is where Luigi did it, you know? Yeah. Unfortunately, there's the very sad story of the woman, I believe in Florida, who she was on the phone with her healthcare company, having a really difficult time, and she ended up saying something along the lines of denied, defend, deposed, like, you guys are scum, and... She said, you guys are next. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:49 And then, uh, they arrested her and are holding her on a $100,000 bail, which is fucking psycho. They're, they're definitely making an example. out of this woman to show, hey, we are not fucking around if anybody tries to replicate this in the slightest, even verbally, we're going to take that and throw the book at you. And that's what they're doing
Starting point is 01:06:06 of this poor woman. Fuck that. Which is why it's very, you know, well, whatever, I'm not going to get into it, but it's, uh, yeah, GoFundMe took down the go fund me to raise money for his defense fund? Yeah. Wow. But apparently, there's, I didn't
Starting point is 01:06:23 know this. There's a company called a Christian company called GiveSend Go. and they are allowing them to stay up. Apparently they've allowed this before for Kyle Rittenhouse and... The breath before really is. And January 6th people who attack the Capitol. So you've got to at least give it to... Oh, they've only raised $128,000? Jesus.
Starting point is 01:06:53 No, raised $141.141, excuse me. I mean, that's not terrible. That's not terrible. That's not terrible. Luigi Manjo. Luigi. But I mean, you got to give it up to them for their, you know, having the integrity to Yeah, they're consistent.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Ideological consistency. Yeah. They say, hey, you kill someone. Come raise your God. We'll defend you. Or not defend you, but we'll give some go for sure. But it's just been an absolute wild time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:26 I'm tired of it. living in exciting times. I've never seen this is, I don't know, maybe it'll die down. It just feels so crazy. Yeah, no, I still have my I still have my gut feeling that things are going to get more
Starting point is 01:07:43 exciting quote unquote before they calm down. Yeah, you think something Chinese is coming. Yeah, I think something Chinese is still coming, but I just wish we could all just take a break just hey everybody stop you can everybody just stop
Starting point is 01:08:00 Christmas is around the corner let's all just have fun park your drones park your drones lock them up you know I did have a beer I did get nervous speaking about the woman who I mean I shouldn't even say it on it the woman who
Starting point is 01:08:14 who got arrested for saying you guys are next or whatever someone it said whatever health company in the wake of Luigi Jim Mangione forgave 11,500 people's medical debt. And I retweeted it and I said,
Starting point is 01:08:34 someone do a student loan service are next. Oh my gosh. And it was up for like 90 seconds. I was like, yeah, I'm going to delete this. Yeah. The last thing I need is, you know, Moheela's CEO to get popped and then I got to hold it. Because they're looking for, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:53 Italian Americans, too. It's true. Handsome ones. I tweeted something to Elon. I quote tweeted a Elon Musk thing earlier today and then I deleted it because I just, I'm just, apparently Elizabeth Warren was telling the Trump administration, hey, we got to do the whole standard conflict of interest thing, disclosure, whatever, with Elon Musk since he's going to be such a close advisor. and the Trump campaign's apparent response was whatever,
Starting point is 01:09:26 basically whatever Pocahontas, Elon Musk has done more for this country than your, than anything you've ever done in your life. And it's just like, we're living in a fucking nightmare. I mean, that that is their childish response that, hey,
Starting point is 01:09:41 she's like, hey, should you guys, just a reminder, you guys got to adhere to the law of the land. And they're like, whatever fucking bitch, whatever you dumb bitch,
Starting point is 01:09:48 he's done more for this country than you have, you stupid bitch. To expect anything else is so funny, though. But, I mean, poor Elizabeth Warren having to be... You guys have to do your conflicts of interest disclosures. It's basically a high school class about to get out for break, and she's the student going, teacher, you forgot to assign his homework for the break.
Starting point is 01:10:10 And Elon Musk and Trump are the jocks going, shut up, you dumb, stupid slut. We got Christmas break coming. And then they fucking kill her or something. they would absolutely kill her if they could if Elon Musk could he'd kill her he'd kill so many people if he could oh fuck yeah he could
Starting point is 01:10:31 he's worth 470 billion dollars as of today anyway yeah he he quote retweeted that news thing and just said ha ha like shut up Pocahontas and it's just it's just yeah cool no because he of course he can do that of course he can why does he need any kind of disclosure
Starting point is 01:10:49 it's uh what's another far for give me another 400 billion i say let him do whatever he wants enrich yourself further let's just see how high you can go buddy i wish you godspeed anyway let's go into the bonus let's go into the bonus i got a boner for the bonus i got a remember to tune in live later i will be self-flagellating sorry for the wrong tweet and uh thanks for watching everybody and we hope you'll see you in new york and boston let's see you we're not going to do anything until then so We'll see you in February. All right.
Starting point is 01:11:23 So long, everybody. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Bye-bye.

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